Seemed like a great idea... Until Tesla made the structural battery pack. I like John's suggestion to use for body panels. Could also be a good material for BEV's "firewalls".
The Chevy Bolt was structural from the beginning so not a new idea, but he's right that weight is quite important. Especially when you're reaching for a low price point and move to a skateboard platform. It will depend on the requirements of each vehicle. More than one way to skin a cat.
@@vidznstuff1 well, what tesla does that is different, if they are using the battery cans, the metal cup surrounding the batteries as an active sheer material in the pack. It’s a good idea to get double use out of the cans around the cells, but doesn’t save a whole lot of weight, and we have yet to put one of those model Y on a shaker to test the torsional frequency compared to a regular model Y with 2170
@@davidmccarthy6061 As far as I know Tesla is the only manufacturer that uses the upper battery tray as the structural floor of the vehicle and that uses the battery cells themselves as a structural unit. While the others may have structural supports around the cells, they don't actually use the cells as structure.
Sandy's a big fan of this (carbon / glass fibre and resin) but the complete lack of recyclability puts me off. Yes, you can grind it up and mix it with concrete but that's not recycling in the true sense... same as burying nuclear waste or CO₂
While I share similar concerns, I also wonder if product durability isn't improved. If the car lasts 50 years instead of 20, isn't that better in a world where fewer cars are produced?
The team at Monroe Live showed great examples with fire suppression, protection, the composite plastics are amazing for battery packs , until we reach 600Wh to 1000Wh battery dentistry with LFP ( no fire risk)
Recycling is always an issue for all types of plastics. I can see this always have a high CO2 footprint as well as a productivity - will never match sheet metal forming parts per minute.
Please please…someone tell the camera man not to go 2mm from peoples faces. Put both subjects in frame. Even the guy was taken back…. It’s every video like this
Seemed like a great idea... Until Tesla made the structural battery pack. I like John's suggestion to use for body panels. Could also be a good material for BEV's "firewalls".
The Chevy Bolt was structural from the beginning so not a new idea, but he's right that weight is quite important. Especially when you're reaching for a low price point and move to a skateboard platform. It will depend on the requirements of each vehicle. More than one way to skin a cat.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Hummer Battery pack braces the structure too.
They're all "structural" packs - Elon's bullshitting at work on the cult
@@vidznstuff1 well, what tesla does that is different, if they are using the battery cans, the metal cup surrounding the batteries as an active sheer material in the pack. It’s a good idea to get double use out of the cans around the cells, but doesn’t save a whole lot of weight, and we have yet to put one of those model Y on a shaker to test the torsional frequency compared to a regular model Y with 2170
@@davidmccarthy6061 As far as I know Tesla is the only manufacturer that uses the upper battery tray as the structural floor of the vehicle and that uses the battery cells themselves as a structural unit. While the others may have structural supports around the cells, they don't actually use the cells as structure.
Sandy's a big fan of this (carbon / glass fibre and resin) but the complete lack of recyclability puts me off.
Yes, you can grind it up and mix it with concrete but that's not recycling in the true sense... same as burying nuclear waste or CO₂
While I share similar concerns, I also wonder if product durability isn't improved. If the car lasts 50 years instead of 20, isn't that better in a world where fewer cars are produced?
The team at Monroe Live showed great examples with fire suppression, protection, the composite plastics are amazing for battery packs , until we reach 600Wh to 1000Wh battery dentistry with LFP ( no fire risk)
I look at these battery enclosures as a throw away non recyclable material .Would be better if made of a
recyclable material.
Not sure it's not recyclable
Wish you had asked if it can be used in a structural battery pack, as the actual floor of the body.
Recycling is always an issue for all types of plastics. I can see this always have a high CO2 footprint as well as a productivity - will never match sheet metal forming parts per minute.
Please please…someone tell the camera man not to go 2mm from peoples faces. Put both subjects in frame. Even the guy was taken back…. It’s every video like this
Move over Oscars, here it comes. Where woke auto goes to die. Rename it "The Detroit Auto Bore."