Very interesting Barry, thanks for the instructive video. I'm also working on getting used to WebODM. An ingenious tool with many output possibilities. I'm also a huge fan of Dronelink!! Absolutely GREAT! Especially the many innovations of the last beta updates. Greetings from Switzerland!
Great explanation! I have been using Dronelink and WebODM at my sons property. He is building a home and this will be very useful as the home goes up. Any tips on exporting the image so it can be viewed?
Glad it was helpful! A few choices for viewing: 1. Install WebODM on the machine you want to view and export/import to that. 2. Export from WebODM and then use DroneDB to view publicly. Here's an example of that hub.dronedb.app/r/houldsworth1/blue-church/view/b2RtX3RleHR1cmVkX21vZGVsX2dlby5vYmo=/model 3. Process in a paid system such as Pix4D and use their viewer to share the model.
@@aviosmedia Barry, I used WebDOM and it works fine for me. I will look at DroneDB for viewing. Also, used the mapping component you provided and like it. Will use while continuing to map my son's home building project. I have been flying my mapping flights at 175' as I need to make sure I stay above of the tall pines surrounding the building site. Is this too low for good mapping results? I noticed yours were 300". Thanks for the help!
@@JohnMerryman No - 175' can work well. Actually, I believe the orbits were at that altitude if I recall correctly. Flying lower can give better results, but there is a trade-off with speed as a capture at 300' will be much faster. But...I'm a big believer in trying things out and finding what works for you.
Hi John. Based on your question I thought you might be interested in the latest video showing how to set up WebODM so that your clients can view the results via the internet - check it out here ruclips.net/video/OzrHEpZQ6L0/видео.html
Hi Barry - interesting video. Could you expand on how the photo's are taken in the orbit mission? Are they based on the overlap defined in the Map mission - are they defined by a setting in the drone, i.e. every 2 secs or is it based on the distance the drone has travelled along its orbit. Many Thanks.
I had the orbit set up for photos. By default it will take photos however you had it set up (which can be done in the mission). I believe I had it set to take photos every 2 seconds. If you want more control a better option can be to use the facade option. This allows you to specify overlaps (much like mapping) and minimum capture intervals. However, that does not exist in all plan levels. It is in all the professional plans though so if you have one of those, that might be a better option for you.
The drone camera is capable of it but, unfortunately, DJI has not released the SDK for the Mini 3 Pro yet (at least not to my knowledge) so you can't run the missions using Dronelink - or any of the other apps that require the SDK to be available. I don't use the fly app but I don't believe that includes a mapping feature (please let me know if I am wrong about that). You could capture the data manually using something like tapfly to get a straight lines for the ortho, and an orbit function. It would be a pain to do but it could work if you are careful. I would also keep the speed down since the Mini 3 Pro does not have a mechanical shutter so motion blur could be a problem. Best of luck!
A quick update for you. The Mini 3 Pro SDK is out so software is now available to map using that. Dronelink has it in beta so you can check out how to sign up for that here support.dronelink.com/hc/en-us/articles/15304402363411-Mini-3-Mini-3-Pro-Beta-Support-Overview or wait until it is full production release. I think at the moment it is Android only.
@@thiagopcarioca Ahh! I understand now. It would depend on whether you were doing this for business or as a hobbyist, and also what drone you are using. You can see all their pricing details here: app.dronelink.com/pricing If you're still confused after going through that, let me know
I have the enterprise subscription. Was there something specific you needed to know? I know that sometimes I show features that are not available to everyone.
@@aviosmedia I think I want the best learning experience, such as advanced facades, mapping, orbits, but a learning experirnce that morphs into commercial confidence quite easily. I want to target construction sites and be covered to do all I need for the extra 3D models of places so that is why I want the orbits with oblique angles sorted. The double grids too. I'm not sure if I go for the Professional modes or hobbyist for now then onto pro? Hobbyist is one time purchases too with £99 being the dearest. Maybe facades can be ditched for now and just stick to repeatable flights over sites. I haev an isse with Litchi it keeps resetting and I want consistancy in my settings which is another reason I am open to moving to other planning software.
@@efpdronefootage If you are using it commercially then you really should be using the professional plans and not the hobby plans. However, I can see how you might want to use the hobby plan while you are learning and making sure that it fits your needs. You can see everything by going to app.dronelink.com/pricing, and then selecting hobby or professional. Once there you can select "compare plans" to see all the features. For example, hobby elite has most things but if you are looking for terrain follow, you are going to have to go to the professional plan. Look down the list and see what fits your needs. If you get it wrong, you can upgrade or downgrade by emailing them. Best of luck!
@@aviosmedia I finally settled in my new home after a massive redo job and have this week bought pro sub via DroneLink and love the platform. I am tweaking flights in there atm and testing them to get the best results for a site near me that I have been planning for. It is good to see a very good mentor again I have a lot of respect for you
I have a question: I have a DJI air 2S and I purchased drone link. I Have an iPad Air but it does not have enough memory or RAM to run drone link. What is the cheapest Apple product I can buy that would run drone link? I am looking at iPad Pro but that is $800. Is there anything cheaper?
Good video. I need to try this out. Recently, I've used Maps Made Easy (Map Pilot Pro) and then Agisoft Metashape. I guess the end product is to send someone an .obj file. What is the most common software that a client would have to open that file with??
It really depends on the product you are sending, who the clients, are how technical they are, etc. If you are using the sample plan, I have recently updated it based on feedback to give improved results for 3D models. If you check out the WebODM FAQ they have a few suggestions, on sharing as follows: - To open the orthophoto/DSM/DTM (odm_orthophoto.tif, dsm.tif, dtm.tif) use QGIS. - To open the point cloud (odm_georeferenced_model.laz) use CloudCompare. - To open the textured 3D model (odm_textured_model.obj) use MeshLab. - If you submit a task using WebODM you can also view the results directly from the user interface. Personally, I like using a cloud version of the WebODM app. It's a bit of work to set up but, once in place, the users don't need any special software to access it. Otherwise, you are asking clients to install those apps and know how to use them, and that's probably going to lead to hours of time spent walking them through things over the phone.
@@aviosmedia Thank you for the information. I could see this in my field (Arch/Engr) when we do not have existing drawings but are expanding on an existing building. I believe you can pull these types of things into Revit, which would give the Architects a good starting point to begin their modeling.
Based on your question I thought you might be interested in the latest video showing how to set up WebODM so that your clients can view the results via the internet - check it out here ruclips.net/video/OzrHEpZQ6L0/видео.html
If you are business and would like a consultancy call to discuss options - let me know and we can set up some time. You can reach me on barry@aviosaerialmedia.com
I believe it does but I don't have a PPK enabled drone. But...I will be doing a follow up on how to use GCPs such as aeropoints at some point in the future.
@@dennisggg532 In Dronelink, just create an orbit (or use the one in the example I provide) and move the center point to where you need it. The system will automatically calculate the gimbal angle needed based on altitude and radius.
Based on your question I thought you might be interested in the latest video showing how to set up WebODM so that your clients can view the results via the internet - check it out here ruclips.net/video/OzrHEpZQ6L0/видео.html
It really depends on your deliverables. For 3D modeling you might find that WebODM isn't as good as other software, and you need to determine a delivery model. There are lots of options depending on need so probably easier to set up time to discuss those. If you wanted to do that send an email to the address in the description.
@@dronetheworld4k67 I can't speak to why dronelink recommends it as I don't work for them. That said, WebODM is good software and getting better all the time. As I said before it really depends on your deliverables. If you need to create orthomosaics then WebODM is perfectly reliable and I use it frequently. It is also practically free. If you are using GCPs, or are creating 3D models (which this video covered) then it can be used to create excellent 3D models, but it often takes a bit more tweaking to do so. Other software such as Agisoft often gives faster, more reliable results, but it costs a few thousand dollars, What is your use case? - Ortho/3d? - Personal / Internal use? - Using GCPs? - Do you need a portal to deliver results?
Using 90 deg. wouldn't give good 3d results. But flying closer to the structure probably would have solved much of that, so maybe adding a facade component sticking close to the building would have given the software enough information to separate the tree from the building. It was crazy though :)
Outstanding instructor
Much appreciated!
Very interesting Barry, thanks for the instructive video. I'm also working on getting used to WebODM. An ingenious tool with many output possibilities.
I'm also a huge fan of Dronelink!! Absolutely GREAT! Especially the many innovations of the last beta updates.
Greetings from Switzerland!
Glad it was helpful! Those are all great tools that I use constantly. And they get better and better all the time.
Hey Barry I actually watch this video by you before I spoke to you today. Thank you for the content.
Don't forget to subscribe if you didn't already :)
Excellent demonstration. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation! I have been using Dronelink and WebODM at my sons property. He is building a home and this will be very useful as the home goes up. Any tips on exporting the image so it can be viewed?
Glad it was helpful!
A few choices for viewing:
1. Install WebODM on the machine you want to view and export/import to that.
2. Export from WebODM and then use DroneDB to view publicly. Here's an example of that
hub.dronedb.app/r/houldsworth1/blue-church/view/b2RtX3RleHR1cmVkX21vZGVsX2dlby5vYmo=/model
3. Process in a paid system such as Pix4D and use their viewer to share the model.
@@aviosmedia
Barry, I used WebDOM and it works fine for me. I will look at DroneDB for viewing.
Also, used the mapping component you provided and like it. Will use while continuing to map my son's home building project.
I have been flying my mapping flights at 175' as I need to make sure I stay above of the tall pines surrounding the building site. Is this too low for good mapping results? I noticed yours were 300".
Thanks for the help!
@@JohnMerryman No - 175' can work well. Actually, I believe the orbits were at that altitude if I recall correctly. Flying lower can give better results, but there is a trade-off with speed as a capture at 300' will be much faster. But...I'm a big believer in trying things out and finding what works for you.
Hi John. Based on your question I thought you might be interested in the latest video showing how to set up WebODM so that your clients can view the results via the internet - check it out here ruclips.net/video/OzrHEpZQ6L0/видео.html
Hi Barry - interesting video. Could you expand on how the photo's are taken in the orbit mission? Are they based on the overlap defined in the Map mission - are they defined by a setting in the drone, i.e. every 2 secs or is it based on the distance the drone has travelled along its orbit. Many Thanks.
I had the orbit set up for photos. By default it will take photos however you had it set up (which can be done in the mission). I believe I had it set to take photos every 2 seconds.
If you want more control a better option can be to use the facade option. This allows you to specify overlaps (much like mapping) and minimum capture intervals. However, that does not exist in all plan levels. It is in all the professional plans though so if you have one of those, that might be a better option for you.
Thank you very much, Barry. Do you think this entire process can be done with a DJI Mini 3 Pro ?
The drone camera is capable of it but, unfortunately, DJI has not released the SDK for the Mini 3 Pro yet (at least not to my knowledge) so you can't run the missions using Dronelink - or any of the other apps that require the SDK to be available. I don't use the fly app but I don't believe that includes a mapping feature (please let me know if I am wrong about that).
You could capture the data manually using something like tapfly to get a straight lines for the ortho, and an orbit function. It would be a pain to do but it could work if you are careful.
I would also keep the speed down since the Mini 3 Pro does not have a mechanical shutter so motion blur could be a problem.
Best of luck!
A quick update for you. The Mini 3 Pro SDK is out so software is now available to map using that. Dronelink has it in beta so you can check out how to sign up for that here support.dronelink.com/hc/en-us/articles/15304402363411-Mini-3-Mini-3-Pro-Beta-Support-Overview or wait until it is full production release. I think at the moment it is Android only.
Great video. Learning my way through these photogrammetry apps. Loved it and subbed it!
Thanks for the sub! Glad it was helpful!
Amazing work! What kind of signature must I have to do 3d mapping?
I'm sorry - I'm not sure I understand the question. Can you clarify what you mean?
@@aviosmedia Sorry! Dronelink have diferents kinds of plans to sign. And I dont know if the basic one is enought to create 3d models like yours.
@@thiagopcarioca Ahh! I understand now. It would depend on whether you were doing this for business or as a hobbyist, and also what drone you are using. You can see all their pricing details here: app.dronelink.com/pricing
If you're still confused after going through that, let me know
This video was very informative and helpful. Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
Barry can I ask what subscription you are using for DroneLink when you have gotten over the holidays and have time to answer please?
I have the enterprise subscription. Was there something specific you needed to know? I know that sometimes I show features that are not available to everyone.
@@aviosmedia I think I want the best learning experience, such as advanced facades, mapping, orbits, but a learning experirnce that morphs into commercial confidence quite easily. I want to target construction sites and be covered to do all I need for the extra 3D models of places so that is why I want the orbits with oblique angles sorted. The double grids too. I'm not sure if I go for the Professional modes or hobbyist for now then onto pro? Hobbyist is one time purchases too with £99 being the dearest. Maybe facades can be ditched for now and just stick to repeatable flights over sites. I haev an isse with Litchi it keeps resetting and I want consistancy in my settings which is another reason I am open to moving to other planning software.
@@efpdronefootage If you are using it commercially then you really should be using the professional plans and not the hobby plans. However, I can see how you might want to use the hobby plan while you are learning and making sure that it fits your needs.
You can see everything by going to app.dronelink.com/pricing, and then selecting hobby or professional. Once there you can select "compare plans" to see all the features. For example, hobby elite has most things but if you are looking for terrain follow, you are going to have to go to the professional plan. Look down the list and see what fits your needs. If you get it wrong, you can upgrade or downgrade by emailing them. Best of luck!
@@aviosmedia I finally settled in my new home after a massive redo job and have this week bought pro sub via DroneLink and love the platform. I am tweaking flights in there atm and testing them to get the best results for a site near me that I have been planning for. It is good to see a very good mentor again I have a lot of respect for you
How's the project going?
Great info, thanks
No problem!
I have a question: I have a DJI air 2S and I purchased drone link. I Have an iPad Air but it does not have enough memory or RAM to run drone link. What is the cheapest Apple product I can buy that would run drone link? I am looking at iPad Pro but that is $800. Is there anything cheaper?
I also use dronelink with an air 2S and I have an iPad mini 6 and it works great
I've been using a Mini 5 for a long time without issue. However, at this point it would probably make sense to go at least one model up from that.
Good video. I need to try this out. Recently, I've used Maps Made Easy (Map Pilot Pro) and then Agisoft Metashape.
I guess the end product is to send someone an .obj file. What is the most common software that a client would have to open that file with??
It really depends on the product you are sending, who the clients, are how technical they are, etc.
If you are using the sample plan, I have recently updated it based on feedback to give improved results for 3D models.
If you check out the WebODM FAQ they have a few suggestions, on sharing as follows:
- To open the orthophoto/DSM/DTM (odm_orthophoto.tif, dsm.tif, dtm.tif) use QGIS.
- To open the point cloud (odm_georeferenced_model.laz) use CloudCompare.
- To open the textured 3D model (odm_textured_model.obj) use MeshLab.
- If you submit a task using WebODM you can also view the results directly from the user interface.
Personally, I like using a cloud version of the WebODM app. It's a bit of work to set up but, once in place, the users don't need any special software to access it. Otherwise, you are asking clients to install those apps and know how to use them, and that's probably going to lead to hours of time spent walking them through things over the phone.
@@aviosmedia Thank you for the information. I could see this in my field (Arch/Engr) when we do not have existing drawings but are expanding on an existing building. I believe you can pull these types of things into Revit, which would give the Architects a good starting point to begin their modeling.
@@JoeBoone82 I think you may be right. I don't have Revit but if you wanted to give it a shot I can send you a sample .obj file to see if it works.
Based on your question I thought you might be interested in the latest video showing how to set up WebODM so that your clients can view the results via the internet - check it out here ruclips.net/video/OzrHEpZQ6L0/видео.html
So how do i deliver this to the customer? Do you send a file that they have to have an app to view? How is it hosted?
There are lots of ways to do this and it will depend on the specifics. This playlist has some options ruclips.net/p/PLK_joCFfIhJ84Uu5n6EML4VHDsSpjp4qs
If you are business and would like a consultancy call to discuss options - let me know and we can set up some time. You can reach me on barry@aviosaerialmedia.com
Thanks for sharing this!
My pleasure!
Nice ! Does it store the log files if you want to use a ppk solution ?
I believe it does but I don't have a PPK enabled drone. But...I will be doing a follow up on how to use GCPs such as aeropoints at some point in the future.
Will this be able to export the 3D model as an OBJ or STL?
Yes. WebODM allows for a lot of different exports, including OBJ.
Hello Barry, die you use the samen -75° gimbal pitch with the orbit? Thank you
For the orbit I just set a center point and let the drone automatically calculate the angle.
@@aviosmedia no way?! How do you do that one?? 🔥
@@dennisggg532 In Dronelink, just create an orbit (or use the one in the example I provide) and move the center point to where you need it. The system will automatically calculate the gimbal angle needed based on altitude and radius.
@@aviosmedia even in the elite plan or only in the professional plans? Thx anyway 🔥
@@dennisggg532 Orbit is available in ALL plans, and will automatically calculate unless you change it.
Have you ever tried to post sharpen the photos or run them through topaz AI?
I have not, sorry. If you do that perhaps you could report your findings.
Hello, which format can I export the 3d model with ?
WebODM allows for a number of different export options. The most common for a 3D model is the .obj file
Based on your question I thought you might be interested in the latest video showing how to set up WebODM so that your clients can view the results via the internet - check it out here ruclips.net/video/OzrHEpZQ6L0/видео.html
how do you share outside of webodm lighting
There are a few options in this playlist that you might find helpful ruclips.net/p/PLK_joCFfIhJ84Uu5n6EML4VHDsSpjp4qs&si=bUq0vgta2lEF9R2D
I'm interested Drone pilot jobs
Not sure this is the right channel for that LOL
This reliable commercialy .?..
It really depends on your deliverables. For 3D modeling you might find that WebODM isn't as good as other software, and you need to determine a delivery model. There are lots of options depending on need so probably easier to set up time to discuss those. If you wanted to do that send an email to the address in the description.
@aviosmedia thanks pal, but if it is not as good as other software how come dronelink recommends it ?!...
@@dronetheworld4k67 I can't speak to why dronelink recommends it as I don't work for them. That said, WebODM is good software and getting better all the time. As I said before it really depends on your deliverables. If you need to create orthomosaics then WebODM is perfectly reliable and I use it frequently. It is also practically free. If you are using GCPs, or are creating 3D models (which this video covered) then it can be used to create excellent 3D models, but it often takes a bit more tweaking to do so. Other software such as Agisoft often gives faster, more reliable results, but it costs a few thousand dollars,
What is your use case?
- Ortho/3d?
- Personal / Internal use?
- Using GCPs?
- Do you need a portal to deliver results?
That crazy tree printed to the structure, do you think it coukdve been fixed if chosen 90 degree gimbal angle ?... @aviosmedia
Using 90 deg. wouldn't give good 3d results. But flying closer to the structure probably would have solved much of that, so maybe adding a facade component sticking close to the building would have given the software enough information to separate the tree from the building. It was crazy though :)