Two things: 1. Another reason I have never made a video on this is because I don't know who you are watching this video, and I would love to make this a conversation with you, hear about your story, etc.. Because there is also some amount of trust required for you to hear me out on this... so I just ask you to trust me a little! 2. Obviously we only covered same sex attraction / sexuality in general here. The matter of gender is probably a different video to be made... let me know if you want to see that!
As gay that live im chastity i can tell that is really hard. I am part of a virtual cattolic group of people that live in chastity. And i allways feel like we are isolated. Woule ne be great if u join us like a streight guy that is not scared of us and doesent care about our orientation.
You made so many excellent points. Paul’s admonished believers in the Corinthian church in chapter 6 as he lists the many kinds of behaviors that G-d delivers us from by the power of G-d. “And such were some of you but you were washed & sanctified, & justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by His Holy Spirit.” Sex and marriage are both G-d’s good ideas. We bear his image in the earth. I so appreciate your marriage parallels in Genesis and Revelation.
Well, I guess it seems that a married heterosexual couple unable to conceive should not be permitted to have sex and not be permitted to be married? As well, I guess a same sex couple married in the Episcopal Church doesn't count unless you also believe the same would be for any heterosexual married couple not married in the Catholic Church? It seems the Catholic Church has missed Christ's most important teachings....
If it is a male and a female, they at least have the openness and right biology for the possibility of conception. Fertility issues are very real, but it doesn't mean conception is impossible - as it would be for a male/male or female/female
Great talk on a difficult subject. Thanks, Zach. Everyone is called to love, and to love multiple people, but not everyone is called to engage in the reproductive/sexual act, only those who are legitimately married. This is truly for the good of the couple and any children they may have/"reproduce." I have never known anyone who was engaging in non-marital relations and had inner peace & true joy (not mere pleasure).
@@ZachGonringFLM So glad you are here on youtube as well! It's heartening to see more and more young Catholics on fire for the Lord and His Mother! God Bless!!
They should be condemned all the same, even more so. I will say it is very much a minority, we should not think all priests are sexually involved, they are definitely not. A few Judases among the faithful apostles.
Isn’t a mortal sin equally to a mortal sin? I thought the lesser sin to mortal sin was venial sin? Certainly heterosexual fornication is abhorrent before God and homosexual fornication is abominable,the two regardless condemn the soul to hell.
I think I maybe noted this in the video, but homosexual activity is also extramarital sex, with the addition that it completely negates the procreative possibility, so in that sense true!
@bornbranded You are absolutely correct. While both are mortal sins, one is also intrinsically disordered while the other is not. As there are many degrees of malice and severity of mortal sins, thus in hell there are various degrees of eternal punishments. I.e., Dante's Inferno. On the positive side, there are also many degrees of beatitude in Heaven. A person who just squeaks into Heaven by the prayers of others should not, in all justice, have the same amount of glory as those who sacrificed greatly and fervently for all their lives, or at least a significant portion.
Two things:
1. Another reason I have never made a video on this is because I don't know who you are watching this video, and I would love to make this a conversation with you, hear about your story, etc.. Because there is also some amount of trust required for you to hear me out on this... so I just ask you to trust me a little!
2. Obviously we only covered same sex attraction / sexuality in general here. The matter of gender is probably a different video to be made... let me know if you want to see that!
Please do so sir ..❤
As gay that live im chastity i can tell that is really hard. I am part of a virtual cattolic group of people that live in chastity. And i allways feel like we are isolated. Woule ne be great if u join us like a streight guy that is not scared of us and doesent care about our orientation.
Thanks for this video Zach, very interesting talk
Glad you enjoyed it!
You made so many excellent points. Paul’s admonished believers in the Corinthian church in chapter 6 as he lists the many kinds of behaviors that G-d delivers us from by the power of G-d. “And such were some of you but you were washed & sanctified, & justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by His Holy Spirit.”
Sex and marriage are both G-d’s good ideas. We bear his image in the earth. I so appreciate your marriage parallels in Genesis and Revelation.
The bible is all about marriage!
Well, I guess it seems that a married heterosexual couple unable to conceive should not be permitted to have sex and not be permitted to be married? As well, I guess a same sex couple married in the Episcopal Church doesn't count unless you also believe the same would be for any heterosexual married couple not married in the Catholic Church? It seems the Catholic Church has missed Christ's most important teachings....
If it is a male and a female, they at least have the openness and right biology for the possibility of conception. Fertility issues are very real, but it doesn't mean conception is impossible - as it would be for a male/male or female/female
Great talk on a difficult subject. Thanks, Zach. Everyone is called to love, and to love multiple people, but not everyone is called to engage in the reproductive/sexual act, only those who are legitimately married. This is truly for the good of the couple and any children they may have/"reproduce." I have never known anyone who was engaging in non-marital relations and had inner peace & true joy (not mere pleasure).
Thank you! Glad you are here!
@@ZachGonringFLM So glad you are here on youtube as well! It's heartening to see more and more young Catholics on fire for the Lord and His Mother! God Bless!!
What about the Priests that are sexually involved throughout the church right up to the Vatican.
Oooooh! You don’t wanna go there! 🤫
They should be condemned all the same, even more so. I will say it is very much a minority, we should not think all priests are sexually involved, they are definitely not. A few Judases among the faithful apostles.
God loves people, hates the sin. Simple. Read Gods' Word.
Look what your papa said today and come again with this 😅
Not sure what you're talking about
@@ZachGonringFLM the pope used homophobic slur to describe us yesterday.
This is not 100% accurate. The Church says premarital sex is a much lesser sin, though still a mortal sin, than homosexual activity.
Isn’t a mortal sin equally to a mortal sin?
I thought the lesser sin to mortal sin was venial sin?
Certainly heterosexual fornication is abhorrent before God and homosexual fornication is abominable,the two regardless condemn the soul to hell.
I think I maybe noted this in the video, but homosexual activity is also extramarital sex, with the addition that it completely negates the procreative possibility, so in that sense true!
@bornbranded You are absolutely correct. While both are mortal sins, one is also intrinsically disordered while the other is not. As there are many degrees of malice and severity of mortal sins, thus in hell there are various degrees of eternal punishments. I.e., Dante's Inferno. On the positive side, there are also many degrees of beatitude in Heaven. A person who just squeaks into Heaven by the prayers of others should not, in all justice, have the same amount of glory as those who sacrificed greatly and fervently for all their lives, or at least a significant portion.