Ask me why I'm Mining in 2023...
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It could take decades to break even with GPU mining in 2023, so why would I install a new GPU mining rig in my garage NOW? Would you believe I actually have a good reason?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:02 How cold is it?
2:30 The Plan
3:00 Curtains
6:24 Building the PC
10:34 Turning it on
11:50 Wall-mounting it
13:40 Did it work?
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Why are you mining in 2023?
Hehe good one.
But why are you mining in 2023?
Lol
Damn it… I was too late
Because
The Waffle House has found its new host.
linus, "my server room is too warm" also linus "my garage is too cold."
If only there was a way to solve both problems at once, eh? Alas, humanity will never know how to move a server.
@@Gabu_ The server heats the pool
@@Gabu_ even putting a vent in that pumps the heat into the garage might not be to hard depending on the layout of the home
Its kind of hard to believe he didn't see this coming and make a server/garage hybrid when you put it like that.
Exactly. If the server room is close by running a duct with an in-line fan from there to that garage would be a good way to get better heat out there. Another option is to put that mining rig on the wall under the desk to make it more like a baseboard radiator and ditch the case fans.
My whole life I’ve been trying to search for a curtain based heating solution that didn’t interfere with my chainsaw storage. Thank you, Linus. I can now die happy.
Best comment
first world problems.
I imagine that studying greenhouse and camping tent construction would teach you something about retaining heat. There are also special plastic curtains used for refrigerated warehouses that would be useful here.
You might also place the mining rig under your desk...
Stretch your legs and short it out?
@@raylopez99 Alright, good point. Perhaps a putting a cage around it, like a fan has, would protect it from accidents like that.
they already made a short where they put a pc in a grow tent
@@oatmeal710 Wah! I'll have to look that up...
Yep heat rises dunit
Since heat rises ... it would seem logical to mount the unit under your desk and then have the fans blow the heat towards your lower body heating your body and the room in that manner. Also putting a false floor with solid foam insulation under your work area with a carpet over the plywood so it would isolate the cold coming up through the floor.
I watched the whole video waiting for him to realise that putting the heat source above him was a bad idea
I have no idea how someone didn't suggest putting the heat source lower since the whole heat rises thing. Under desk=warm crotch
Yep I was going to mention this but you beat me to it.....
Itd prob be better, but even the shittiest fan can overcome convection and he was using 3 Noctuas.
@@verakoo6187 Not in the volume of air he wants heated.
Also, if there's too much airflow, even like 25-30°C air would actually cool your body and make you feel cold...
You need it placed under the desk. Not only is convection a thing, but if you blow the "hot" air at yourself especially from a distance then you'll probably feel colder due to both the venturi effect sucking cold air in with the warm and you'll be constantly blowing away the warm layer of air around your upper body, thereby negating that 1 degree benefit and then some. The absolute ideal would be to have the warm air gently wafting from your feet towards your torso, and have a nice insulating layer of padding on the back of your chair to stop your back feeling cold.
I say this as someone who lives off the grid in a small box with an uninsulated roof. I have a wood stove and with one previous arrangement of my home I had an extractor fan which would suck warm air from next to the stove and expel it through a tube towards my feet under the desk at the cold end of my home. It was very much bodged together and therefore minimally effective, but worth it in cold weather.
There are also some other *fantastic* suggestions made by other commenters here, like carpet and/or an insulated layer of flooring, a double layer of curtains, and allowing time for the walls to warm up a little. It's well known among folks who sleep outdoors that separating yourself from the floor is quite important in cold conditions, and that of course carries over into this situation as well.
I'd love to see this project revisited with as many of these suggestions implemented as is financially reasonable. I think with the right amount of thought and effort this has the potential to be surprisingly efficacious.
I have my pc under my desk, and I can confirm the heat rises and heats it more, and under my desk is this cloud of warmness
This.
This is the way Linus.
The way this'd work even better is if you put the curtains around the base of your desk to trap the heat in around your legs. The Japanese have this thing called a "Kotatsu" which is a table that uses the heat from a low-powered heater and a very thick blanket that's wedged between the top of the table and the underside of another hard surface (so like, a second table) to keep the underside of the table warm during winter, seeing as Japanese houses have three fifths of bugger all insulation.
I am taking your advice and putting my hot PC under my chair!
Warmer air goes up so you are losing some heat. Putting this rig down the desk will heat up the wooden desk, wood has good thermal capacity. Which will heat you and your legs. Then you won't lose that much heat to the upper air. Maybe instead of insulating that much area with that curtain, you can put them on the right of the chair and the back. And I hope you get better results.
So what you're saying is...gaming chair computer. Also, won't this just be useful for like a couple months before it gets hot again? lol.
@@ShinnSinhe was only worried about the heat to keep him warm during winter, do what you do with any heater in the warmer months... turn it off.
In this video, Linus leans hot air rises!
Your best bet to get the heat you want in that space with a small electric heater is to get a radiant heater. It will heat you instead of trying to heat the air.
How else would he be able to do stuff and then not have it as a tax write off
Problem is he does want to heat the air too somewhat for the health of the components. Where Linus lives is fairly humid and he probably wants to avoid condensation forming on the electronics
Infrared heater.
@@drinkoldcoke An infrared heater is a radiant heater. :)
@@hovant6666 That won't occur unless the components are colder.
I love that "NOTHING IN MY HOUSE WORKS" and "WIFE IS UNHAPPY", when multiplied, produce Jake. Which implies that he is either the immediate solution to those problems, and fixes your tech while pleasing your wife, or they are both factors of Jake in that both your WiFi and your wifey are unhappy because Jake exists.
My mind went for the first possibility. He is the solution to both Problems and the wife will be pleased. 🤣
Is it a multiplication? It looked more like a sum
Ahh, so if I want to summon Jake I need to upset my wife and smash my TV. Understood
Well, it could also be a cross product, then Jake is completely orthogonal to the issues that Linus is having, but somehow related to them anyway.
maybe jake is the unhappy wife
Linus, heat naturally goes up, instead of heating the ceiling and the wall behind the frame, put the rig under the desk (but not directly on the floor, use some rubber pads as isolators). At least your feet and lower body will be warm - a huge difference.
Hot air rises because its less dense than cooler air, heat goes in all directions but I agree he should have put it under the desk and added another curtain to the sides to contain the heat there so its warmer to sit at the desk.
It might keep the feet and linus's family jewel relatively warm but not gonna make much difference in overall temperature of the room.
i also think it would take time. like days in order to heat the space.
@@gamechanger2473 He just needs to make an closed and isolated room.
Drywall with isolation and an actual door instead of curtains should do the job.
Or he just could heat up the whole garage with an fan heater for construction sites.
Electricity is really cheap (12ct/kWh?) in Canada, so it doesn´t really matter.
I am personally (sometimes) using an 9kW (3 phase) heater for my small garage/workshop.
Works pretty fine, but ... (45ct/kWh)
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It's probably not the best idea if you're changing components often, but under the desk would probably be better. It's why I had to move my rig out from under the desk. The desk top was trapping the hot air under it, and with one side blocked by the wall, and the other blocked by my bed, it only had one way out, directly at me.
Those were some toasty roasty leggies, especially in summer.
I used a miner to heat my basement setup. I put the rig under my desk and it worked surprisingly well. After a few hours it became very noticeable and since the machine will run 24/7, after a day you should happy. Also try putting up two layers of curtains, this creates an air gap that works as an insulator.
LOL you might as well get space heaters, it's cheaper :P
@@jimmydandy9364 no it isnt. if you want an explanation then reply to this comment.
Username checks out
You were also not fighting the fact that heat rises, unlike Linus.
I was thinking under the desk would be better as well. Let the heat do what it does and have it rise into you instead of trying to force it downwards with fans
14:23 "It's almost like Thermal Management is like a whole industry, with engineers and scientists" i died so hard seeing you trying to force naturaly rising heat downwards and saying that line. GOLD
Ikr, its almost as if there should be cases that work and that alone and flip the pc upside down.
Oh wait
Hot goes to cold, not up. It just so happens that outside the cold IS up.
@@Metradime hot air is less dense than cold air, so it rises.
@@your_average_cultured_dude yes, but in an enclosed space this effect is negligible. Think of a basement - most of the heat gets sucked into the floors and walls - same with the sides of your house - because those are MORE cold than the air above.
Air density only has this effect in mostly STAGNANT air.
@@your_average_cultured_dude basically, air isn't the only medium absorbing heat indoor.
I had 6 cards drawing 800 watts at the wall and within 24 hours it brought my 40F attic space (500sq feet or so) up to 75-80F during the winter. It takes hours for the heat to spread around the space, I’d bet it Linus had come back a day later it would eventually get that temp up
your attic is well insulated to keep heat from the home in. that room linus is in would lose heat far too fast through those shutters
In my bedroom when I lived with my dad I left the heat off, door closed and had my 5700xt undrrvolted mining 24/7 and the temp stayed in the 70s F°. Not the same but it did good
Mount the rig under the table. This will force the table to control part of the passive airflow. If you can force the air to come out toward the front of the table, you can get more heat from it. My new system build makes an accidental space heater, and the air from under the desk is quite noticeable.
Exactly. Firstly, hot air simply go up because it's lighter. Secondly, it needs time to get a place hot. Third, it will clearly help under the desk because of inertia. The desk will get hot and slowly transfer the energy. The hot air will also flow around the desk.
I love the idea btw ;)
@@adax74 it is not lighter :) it is less dense.
Yea, I understand that they have to "clown around for the views", but to not at least include that as a final solution is frankly embarrassing I.m.o.
When I lived in the UK I had a workstation with 4 Titans with a custom loop and a MORA rad on soft tubes. And in the winter I put the rad under the desk, and in the summer I put it so it vented out in the corridor.
Perfect solution.
@@robertsobaszek6352 one doesn't exclude the other right. Most of the time when something is lighter then another thing is because it is less dense. plastic has a lower density then lead, hence it is lighter. The only difference here is that the composition is the same. But the same can be said for ice being lighter then water...
I moved my PC on top of the desk for the opposite reason for summer. It made a huge difference to reduce the heating of my sitting position. My desk blocks all airflow to the rear and sides.
I thought Linus hasn't dropped anything in a while and now he dropped a bunch of stuff in this video. The world is healing.
Finally
true
This poor hardware. They need crashpads at the floor
Unfortunately, the heat refused to be dropped.
Fortunately, the chainsaw did not drop
Possible solution: just rig it deep under the desk, sideways, and put fans blowing the air towards you. Hot air will be at close range, hit you directly at your legs and waist, then because 1) it will hit your surface and 2) hot air goes up, it will go up your core and head. My room gets an extra +3 degrees compared to the other similar room next to it thanks to electronics totalling around 300 W. Also keep in mind in situations like this, where you have a high ceiling, the height will 'eat out' a lot of the heat if it doesn't hit you directly with fans.
Maybe an enclosure in addition to the mining computer/heater under the desk with an air intake just outside the enclosure.
Just watched a video of you guys talking about old PC cases and you commented on the Resevator, the reservoir radiator, of course would involve fantastic water-cooling magic to hook up a bunch of cards but could provide the ambient heat you need for the small garage area. I for one enjoy water-cooling content so would love to see what you can come up with
For someone who have lived in a cold cabin by the sea here in Sweden, I can strongly recommend having the computer on the floor with the exhaust toward your feet (and preferably If you can, split the exhaust toward your hands as well), The heat rises naturally and since you can't heat the whole area, at least you can direct the exhaust to the two areas where we generally get the coldest... If you want to heat up that area I would just insulate it with cellfoam insulation like cellotex or something similar, it is the most efficient insulator on the market and you could quite easily make foldable wall out of it as well. :)
Who knew, heat goes up 🤦🏻🤣
Nah, Linus is just trying to discover new physics 😂
Anyone with 2 brain cells would have figured that one out. Linus looking at the FLIR footage like “hurrr heat is rising‽”
Was going to suggest the exact same thing. Well said sir. I do mine under the desk and it is great!
Bad idea for tempered glass PC Case on ceramic floor surface.
Seeing all of that tech gear in storage, I can't help but want an LTT museum... A place to look at all kinds of tech over the course of many years. Also featuring a long hall of dropped tech - a place to memorialize everything Linus has dropped.
Stop spamming
That could be a fun little vr app. LTT tech mesuem
@Don't Read Profile Picture thanks for the reminder, wasn't going to read it anyways.
That is such a great Idea!
Everything Linus has dropped?
Time to get another warehouse.
This is exactly what I've been doing for the last 2 years to heat up my workroom. No heating here and I run Satisfactory for hours. It does heat up the room (well insulated and much smaller than the garage) and I get all the stuff produced to gain a tier while working 🙂
DUDE, HEAT RISES!!! Put it on the floor under the desk.
You should let it run for a day or two with the curtains closed, it will probably warm up a fair bit more. It takes a long time to heat up all of the walls and stuff are still at the lower temperature.
Man, linus is gonna make a lot of enemies with this video
He's not doing miners proud
He's not doing gamers proud
He's not doing carpenters and insulation workers proud
🤣🤣🤣
Not going to make Physicists who understand that heat rises proud either...
He used a wood drill bit...... For drilling through the 'metal' frame....
Yeah, it's already 1100 dislikes. Dunno why people are so trigger happy.
it’s Linus what do you expect
Some men just want to watch the world burn. I’m one of those men and he’s doing me proud. So yeah… there’s that…
1) put heater under the desk. Heat rises, convection currents should help move the heat around a little and keep the heat at the desk where you work.
2) get a convection heater and try it.. see if the curtain idea is helpful or not.. it probably isn't giving off enough BTU to be I sulfated within the curtains and so it's all escaping into the larger garage.
3) get insulation and build a better wall area to close off the area to trap the heat better.
4) electric heating mats might be good just around the desk. Fairly cheap, can be fitted easily.. I know it's against the "generate heat and do something useful" mentality - but might be worthwhile to think about.
Heat goes up first so I think it would better heat the work station if it's under the table.
The space above the curtains would still allow the heat to pass through.
Or point a big fan to the mining rig to scatter the heat.
Linus forgetting the simple principle of "Heat rises" is hilarious
Actually Heat does NOT rise. Cold air is more dense and therefore heavier, cold air drops and force hot air upward. Physics. Cold air drops, SO. place a vent on floor level and one on ceiling level and a blower and vent pipes in between. Use a speed control and a raspberry Pi to monitor and control blower speeds and activations, and lost of servers/test systems and la viola!!! a partial solution. Next make sure you have insulated garage doors, and top notch garage door seals. (and hopefully insulated garage walls. Plus there are rubber interlocking tiles for garage floor that might help a little with insulating the floors???
@@WalterGreenIII if the cold air is forcing the heat up... isn't the heat... rising?
@@WalterGreenIII seems like a pedantic way to correct someone who gets to the same end result for practical application. its like saying, a fridge doesn't have a cold interior, it uses a condenser to pull the heat from the interior of the fridge to the outside environment making the fridge have less heat then before. While you are technically correct in your explanation the lay man effect comes to the same conclusion. If you have hot air that is 1 meter off the ground, eventually it will be forced up.
It's true that hot air rises because it floats on top of colder air. However, it's not true that heat rises. Heat goes to cold. Wet goes to dry. Higher pressure goes to lower pressure.
@@WalterGreenIII WOW!
Linus has been a dad for so many years but swingin on a chainsaw hangin from the ceiling bein like "That's totally fine" really completed his dad transformation.
That is 100% a dad thing to do ngl
Hehe
Ohhh yeah
He even said the legendary "that's not going anywhere" when mounting the rig to the wall
Dadsformation
Linus i reccomend some ceiling tiles between the studs or just below the studs, it will make it so the air cant rise as high and cause it to be a smaller volume of area you are attempting to heat
So Linus probably bought Porsche since he has mats for it in the garage. You can see them clearly around 4:30 mark. Congratulations on the purchase, hope it meets your expectations and serves you and your family well
Love to see that Jake can solve your problems AND make your wife happy
That doesn't sound right... the wife part
@@quanghuyvu2649 that’s the joke. Look at the beginning of the video
Jake doing everything right!
SAVAGE...🙂
Mine is also a joke
You put the system near your feet, that way when the heat rises, you're the most affected by it. It also gives it access to the coolest air, bc cold air falls. Another note is that your little curtain idea doesn't trap in any significant heat.
Normal Midwesterner from the US = I need a warm area to work in the winter in my garage. I'll build walls
Linus = Curtains, all the curtains
Normal Person = this area needs heat I'll get a high quality space heater
Linus = Mining PC
Russian dudes: put stove at the garage.
And some more context: Russian garage is a separate building from the living place. Sometimes it couple kilometres...
@Priya Gaming is a Bot Account promoting another channel, Ignore It, dislike it, report it.
Can confirm, am Midwestern, have walls in my garage.
@@MagnaRyuuDesignsI mean hey, a PC does the exact same thing as a space heater but it does calculations at the same time, which can be useful/lucrative based on what calculations you do
You should consider the thermodinamics of air. Hot air has less weight than cold air so always goes up as air ballons. It should work if the minning rig is on the floor and then guided by pipes to wher you want the hot air
Creating some kind of top for the mining rig or using a different case/enclosure for the components could let you use it as a monitor stand. That would definitely be a less janky more effective solution.
I have spent more time then I ever imagined watching videos about linus' heating and cooling system for his home
TIL installing heating/cooling system can be fun
This might a weird idea, but why not put the whole mining rig in a box, stuff two fans on it for intake and duct the exhaust to the desk/below the desk? Throw in a lid for easy access and you have basically a portable space heater with directed heating, instead of the diffuse heating of the wall mount.
Plus, you can adjust temps and airflow via the fans.
use the box as the bottom of a chair and point the fans up!
That's just less fun, 😉
Use a couple of noctua's 200mm fans for it. Moves a ton of air at decent pressures and volume. I can see it being viable
that would be too reasonable
Isn't the mining/folding going to affect the reliability and performance in future testing?
linus made a video about it, no
put the rig under your desk, with a curtain around, to trap the warm air in a smaller space!
I think you're better off putting the PC at ground level, under the desk. Heat rises, and with a big desk directly above the heat output it will mean your heat will accumulate under the desk before rising to the top of the room, where that heat effectively becomes useless to you. This would mean you get more heat per Watt, because the heat won't just rise to the ceiling and dissipate up there, you'd have a warm pocket of air under the desk with the heat slowly escaping and rising from there, more effectively heating those few cubic meters you'll mostly be occupying, also meaning you don't need to mess around with trying to artificially displace the hot air towards where you will be sitting, effectively achieving _exactly_ what you want, you'll have targeted heat exactly where you want it (need I say that aiming _hot air downwards_ is a bit paradoxical...? It's kind of tackling the problem upside down. Far more optimal would be to position your heat source as LOW as possible, to get the most out of the heat potential of the rig, AND to get the best passive cooling for your mining rig, because, would you know it, cool air sinks!? So your mining rig would be cooled by the coldest air available to you in that room. This would just be SO much more optimal, literally in every single way- it means cooling the PC is more energy efficient and more effective, YOU get a warmer work space without needing to aim it at you with fans because it's already way above ground level, which is inefficient and wastes a lot of the potential heat produced, it's just better in every way, even if we're talking about minor differences (though I do really think trying to aim hot air down for the purpose of heating your work space is just a bit silly. A mining rig with a couple noctua fans isn't an air con, AC are literally built to produce heat, your PC is designed to do the opposite, *cool down any heat produced*)
For real, put it under the desk. Wall mount it, sit it on the floor, do whatever you want with it, but at ground level, preferably under the desk to allow for heat accumulation + slower release of that heat. This would be a way more optimal/effective/efficient solution for what you're trying to achieve.
Any (actual) physicists reading this, don't be too harsh on me if I'm off the plot a bit. I'm a physics major _dropout_, not a real, experienced physicist. I think my points are valid and sound, but I may have expressed them poorly, or explained some things clumsily? But please do let me know, if you have the knowledge, whether my arguments make sense to you and would actually produce superior room-warming and PC-cooling results.
Real world experience agrees with the under desk premise.
I wanted to scream "HEAT FUCKIN RISES LINUS" half the video. Stretch another few curtains over the top like a false ceiling and put the heater on the ground. Then he would actually have reasonable gains. Might even get +10 degrees with the gpus
@@snesguy9176 If you want to go more - box in the area, insulate it, and run ducting to a modified full case filled with the equipment. Use the fan with the computer in the case to heat the air, push it into the room, and circulate it.
Yes it takes more work - but it would be far more effective. And if you go over the top with the build - you take that tall ceiling and turn it into usable storage space.
linus doesn't like PC sitting on the floor
@@kryptonian69 it’s an open test bench, dust isn’t really a factor
Can't wait for the "How I rebuilt my entire garage to make it a hanging chainsaw room just to piss Brandon off"
My office, in my home during the winter, gets so hot at times that it can be unbearable. (With the vent closed off to the room as it is not needed.)
Running the following.
Dell r710 Server (1 550w power supply)
1G 24 port Switch
Modem
Router (PF Sense Installed on an old HP Compact)
Dell 7010 (Used as a Backup DC and Backup Web and SQL for the above r710.)
Cyberpower CPS1500AVR (w/4 x 26ah Batteries)
Along with my laptop and desktop and all the monitors. (7 monitors Total)
Just running the Dell r710 puts off enough heat to eventually warm your small space and keep it warm throughout the winter. (As long as you keep the curtain closed.)
So, you might want to get a server to use for storage or as backup storage to place in that space to keep you warm.
Love the content. Keep it up.
Wayne
Linus is the kind of guy who never listened when they said "heat rises" in physics class
Since heat goes up i think it will serve you better if the rig is below table that way u will surely get the heat to you body
rig built into a footrest and some sort of Snuggie situation to keep the heat next to your body seems infinitely more useful, but clicks is clicks
@@landonfriesen8673 Better foot rest then the jeep. :D
Bake vs Broil
@@GhostRyderFPV actually facts
You should put some tube from the server rooms in the garage to exchange heat with a radiator before going in the pool. Or you should put the mining bench under the desk so the heat is gonna accumulate under the desk and around your legs.
What are those? Senible recommendations? This is ltt after all xd
I have two computers for mining and gaming. My office is a 7x7x10 closed room in the backroom of my house, which can be exposed to the Michigan outdoors through a door at the end of a long hallway, and this winter I've been warm ONLY by my miners. One computer has 2 Titan XPs, and the other computer a 3080. The one with the twin Titans is just outside my office, where it can heat up the backroom. The one with the 3080 is in my office. When the backroom door is closed from the outside for a few hours, the Titan miners bring up the temps to around 60F. This is when it gets around 20-25F outside. Mind you, there is A LOT more air space for it to heat up. My office on the other hand, has been consistently staying around 90F, and since the humidity is dead low, it is actually comfortable in here. I'm typing this up in shorts and a t-shirt. It's actually more comfortable in the backroom and my office than in my house, which is heated only by a wood burning stove. To keep my office tolerable, I have foam draft stoppers attached to my door, since there is an air gap of around 1/2 an inch, top and bottom, so I block that off with the foam. I also have a 20in industrial fan to circulate the air in here. If it gets too stuffy in here, I can tear off the foam stoppers, since they are attached with Velcro, and let the fan pull cooler air in, or I can open my office door to the back room to let the hotter air mix with the not-as-hot air of the backroom. Sometimes, I just leave the door to the outside open just to keep the backroom cold for my miners.
To heat this small room only takes a few hours with the door shut. It's not a space heater and doesn't do it quickly. Also, I should note that there is no real insulation out here. The front yard is hilly, and comes up to the top of the 1st floor, essentially making it a basement, while the backyard is fully exposed. So this room is insulated mostly by the ground and cement cinder blocks. As for the roof, we have a barn shaped 4 sided roof that goes ground to ground, and part of the ceiling of my office is slanted for the roof. I and the neighbors can tell I do mining because there is no snow on the roof in the exact shape of my office. 🤣
What you need to heat up that space is a 20inch industrial fan to circulate air for just that area. I'm not talking about having it blow over and through those video cards, but it wouldn't hurt. Also, heat rises, so if you REALLY want to heat that room a little more effectively, get that thing off the wall and down near the floor. Also, you might want to tape up the edges of those curtains to the wall so there is no air gaps. Heat rises, and it'll pull in the cold air from the sides and bottom of that curtain like suction, so you'll want to push that heat down to your level with the fan. I have my fan mounted on the upper part of a wall near the ceiling aimed up to cool things down, or aimed 45 degrees down and towards the lower part of the door to heat things up and reduce any small drafts.
The sound got noticeably better when he closed the curtains at 7:09 Shows how much of a difference sound deadening can make.
You could try putting a second curtain just a few inches from that one, either inside or outside. Air is an excellent insulator and all you have to do is trap that air in its own separate area.
Or he could just get a space heater....
@@Remsster but he said that's too easy, so no.
@@Remsster Would have the same effect.
Better sealing is the key. I built a bubble around a car out of painter's plastic in a 15 Fahrenheit garage, put a single 1500 watt heater in it, and it was a toasty 65 inside. Didn't even have to support it outside of a small area to get it started, because it blew up like a hot air balloon. Put a couple of fresh air holes in to prevent suffocation, and whabam, easy warm work area. That curtain isn't sealed well to the wall above it (which is where much of the losses probably are), to the walls next to it, has holes through it (for the curtain rod), and lets tons of air through it. If he were poor, I'd say just enclose the desk using PVC pipe for a frame and painter's plastic and duct tape for material. Since he's not, he should just turn the entire work area into an insulated room with a door and heat it with a mini-split.
Kinda wonder if it's possible to get curtain sized versions of those foil blankets they use in ambulances. Been under one, they are crazy effective.
I agree with the 'second curtain' ideas and suggest you utilize the shower curtains if you do the second curtain aspect, for the same reason you were going to before, but now the air is being held more or less by the outer curtains and the plastic-based shower curtains don't need to go all the way down since heat rises and you just want to keep the heat in the general area;; or you can melt two pairs of shower curtains together;; use a tarp, I'm not sure why you didn't use a tarp, screw my idea about the shower curtain and use a tarp.
We're Canadian, we use tarps
Am Canadian, can confirm. We love tarps.
I did something similar when I my ship was in the baltic. One of the spaces my department owned was the hangout spot. So all the consoles and a big tv were there. This particular room had multiple openings to outside though and zero insulation. Fortunately there was a heating unit in the ceiling. Unfortunately the heat was quickly sucked outside. I eventually reappropriated some wool blankets and hung them up around the main area we hung out under the heater. Worked like a charm. Granted I had to use several layers of blankets to keep the heat in.
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I threw a curtain across the unoccupied doorway that goes to my computer room, and it has absolutely made a difference. When I open that curtain and exit the room, it feels noticeably colder in the adjacent space. And I even close my vent from the HVAC. Basically just warming my room with a meager 6600XT and 5800x.
Garage door insulation and weather sealing is probably your most potent factor, you could even get those clear plastic flaps that forklifts drive through in commercial freezers to limit air flow when the garage is open.
With the flaps you'd have to worry about them hitting your car. That's gonna mess up the paint over time.
@@FlyingShoe oh yeah, maybe the car should have the flaps instead of the garage lol I mean he could install a blower to blow an air curtain while the doors open. That’s pretty high tech.
@@FlyingShoe The forklift flaps are also very expensive.
I fazed out when he wall mounted it - hot air rises - if he mounted it under the desk or close to his chair and had a fan blow air towards him, i could have given him an A for effort, but.. this was too daft.
@@brentgreeff1115 when I saw him screwing on the wall, I flapped. My guess is he’s either stringing out the content over multiple iterations of dafty drafty design, or the wall mount is for space saving, and the idea is to heat the whole space for projects, not just the desk. Two reasons an under desk approach may have been rejected.
If the wall mount worked, I think it would also blow hot air on his eyeballs which would be annoying rather quickly.
He’s probably leaking his heat out the top junction between the curtain and the mezzanine. He needs it to be like a diving bell of hot air. If he had a good seal the rig could be anywhere inside it and fill it with warmth.
Pro tip, I had to do something similar in a completely unheated garage. I lined a makeshift ceiling wall and floating wall with hex plastic sheeting, get whatever is cheapest. The thinner the cheaper the better. I just used staples and then to keep the bottoms from floating away, i staples the bottoms to 3” slats to keep them held down. Hooking up the s19 pro exhaust to a cardboard tunnel flowing into the area worked great. I also added a kerosene heater with an exhaust leading out of the area to keep some heat in and the exhaust out. Then I used a cheap Chinese air quality monitor to hopefully not die. 10/10
This video inspired me to go through with my idea to mine in my little ADU as an alternative heating solution. Right my 3070 and Ryzen 7 are both doing a lot of the work historically done by my single space heater and actually doing a decent job of keeping my little 10x12 home comfortable. It's only making me $0.41 a day but that's more money than my space heater has ever made me.
@12:17 "genius or moronic, *whispers* should be right down the line" LOL!
Linus, the heat goes always up. Put it on the floor and build a case with some dust filters for intakes for it to work
well if a heater first, use some heat ducting pipe, (the stretchy springy stuff/bumble dryers, run from the PC air intake, somewhere else , in the room that will get the air moving the space, heater/PC a chance, get at some of air not right next the BOX, the the point, of the exercise, heating the space?
Warmth goes up. So just put the mining rack under the desk and it should work much better!
Also, in this special case you don't really have to worry about airflow. So you can just put it in a cage if you worry about your feet.
its nice to know that my house is colder than linus' garage. i've had a fire going all day and im sitting at a cozy 8 celcius.
currently around -17 outside tho, it makes it hard tho because whenever i visit friends who have proper heating in their houses im always dying from the heat
I'm SOOOO glad you are folding instead of mining, once we get back to winter here in Australia I'll be back to warming my room with folding as well :D
What is folding?
@@Shorkshire giving your computer power to research for medical and science purposes
@@Shorkshire Folding@Home is a distributed computing project where you donate your computing power to do protein folding simulations to help study and cure diseases and such
@@PAPO1990 how do I do that? I have a brand new powerful rig that I don't have a lot of time to use
@@Shorkshire there’s plenty about it on the LTT forums, much better guides than I could give in a RUclips comment
Hot air rises so manage air flow vertically and define your area horizontally.
Move those big curtains in under the overhang, preferably up into a joist bay - this will help keep hot air in. Mounted on the outside as they are now, the hot air that would accumulate up above you just moves up and out through the gap at the top.
Put heat sources down low. You will produce natural convection currents and benefit from the heat as it rises. Maybe place the mining rig under the desk to have it heat that area where your legs/lap are. Then you can put little curtains around it like a Canadian kotatsu.
This. Much this.
Canadian kotatsu has to be the title for the next video
Plus having the fans on your face vs on your legs means you'll get sick faster. I'm sure they were tryharding at a solution that doesn't involve common sense lmao
@@silverhawkroman sick?
@@mattrobinson3460 I'd watch that
There are 3 ways of heat transportation: convection, radiation and conduction.
In high rooms convection, like Linus used, doesn't work.
In stead use radiation in rooms with a high ceiling, like an IR-heater, (or floor heating).
Conduction is also an option by making chair-heating... (A water cooled computer, heating the chair), which would be the most energy-efficiënt.
Sincerely yours,
An HVAC engineer...
Really enjoying the newer editing liberties that are being taken.
6:22 Looks like a great place to shoot Home Alone 6
Hey guys! Heat goes upwards, so I think that setting the heat machine under the desk would make the whole place hotter, while hiding it
their content brain is preventing them from thinking straight lol
The key is to have it in a cabinet or some sort of box, then exhaust in a single area it will provide enough heat to make you feel warmer. Being open air like that and you are losing too much heat .
Hot air rises because it is less dense and weighs less than cold air, cold air is the opposite, it is denser and therefore weighs more, which is why it descends.that's why you should have put it under your desk,
Sometimes Linus truly is the Jeremy Clarkson of the PC world.
Hope that doesn't apply in all aspects 😬
"Sometimes my genius is... it's quite freightening"
Don't insult Clarkson like that.
ahahahahhhahhaahahahahah on g lgm
He doesn't have the wit that's often mistaken for racism.
May have been better to locate it on the wall under your desk, considering the extreme temps that room will see. The table itself would work as a sort of diffuser which would help spread the head lower before rising to the tall ceilings. Overtime this may lend to a warmer effect than being mounted so high over the user.
Get a standing desk and mount the rig to the underside of the desk. Install a curtain around the circumference of the desk. The heat will come out where you're sitting. Like a kotatsu.
I've been doing this for about two years: set my computer to churn FoldingAtHome so my work area stays fairly warm while the rest of my apartment can stay at a slightly lower temperature to save a bit of energy heating only the place I actually spend time in.
A suggestion about the curtains thing: Have them in a two layer configuration. It will retain heat a bit better.
@@tomkrstk *Non-moving air creates insulation, otherwise you get convection! If the gap is to big, you get natural convection...
I hope I can clear the air on this inflammatory issue. The man needs concrete, layers upon layers of it. Like bro needs to show up to Whale Con with the username “Thermal Mass”. Or he could just tuck his curtains in at the top so there isn’t flow escaping out the gaps, making like a diving bell bubble of warm air. “Deep Heat” is still pretty catchy. Although I’d probably go with “Bubbler” and use bubble wrap’s air pockets for a cheap light diffusive insulating medium, and just staple that mofo all over the work-fort.
Fun word of the day! “Interstitial” which means between two layers, like me with both your mom’s lol ;P
3:55 I’m not as worried about the chainsaw falling as I would be about the constant oil drip. Unless Linus doesn’t put oil in his chainsaw, which would make sense, but also is terrible for your blade and makes it harder to get through logs.
Nevermind. Just saw that he had the chainsaw hung so that it’s oil tank is facing upright. It’s good.
Chainsaw has chain, not blade 😉
@@captaiawesome2260 For a second I thought you were fucking nuts.
@@bluekarnage1985 Where I'm from, blade is slang for the bar and chain put together.
A few things that may or may not help
Heat rises, mounting the device low gives it access to cooler air, (more efficient) and puts it below the heat required zone, improving heating
Putting up curtains to retain heated air only works if you're reducing heat seep at the top of the curtain to below heat production
Putting up curtains on 2 sides providing heat containment is of limited effect in the short terms because your walls are so poorly insulated you're not only loosing a bunch of heat through the wall but also trying to counteract a MASSIVE amount of energy deficit from the thermal mass of the walls, because the lack of insulation between inner and outerwall means the whole thermal mass of the brick wall is in play.
Mount the PC lower to the floor,
strip staple the curtains to the ceiling to minimise seep,
Magnet strip the curtains together along the joins to minimise seep
insulate the walls behind and beside your set up.
Double layering the curtains would help allot too
Heat goes up whether you blow some of it back down or not.
So the most effective way of heating is to install the heat source as close to the floor as possible.
Under the desk, for example.
Or just replace the rig with plant pots and small copper pipe loop alcohol burner. :)
You should test the Intel ARC gpus again. Apparently the older api performance has gotten exceptionally better over the last 2 months as well as overall stability of the driver.
yeah, they incorporated DXVK into their driver, which is just awesome to me.
This works really well if you actually have an insulated space. I mined last year as my primary heat source because my apartment's electric wall heater was so incredibly loud. Plus I figured I'd break even on mining (and I did) even with my 590 card. I only needed 330 W running half the time to stay comfy in my studio. It's unclear how much time Linus gave his rig in the video to actually heat the space, but I would put up a bit of insulation behind it and then it should work about as well as any other North American space heater.
With the black walls in the IR picture, I guess the problem here is more the insulation (or lack thereof).
I agree. I had 6.5Kw worth of equipment running last year and it kept my uninsulated 900 sq-ft garage hot..like 32 outside, 90 inside hot. What he needs to do, though, is get some actual air flow between those cards. I usually pointed one of those high cfm carpet fans at my rigs, and that kept the cards pretty cool, and the heat moseying around.
what did you mine and which miner you used? My PC is just collecting dust, might as well make some money from it. I too have an amd card
i mine in winter because its literally free fake internet money if you'd be running the heat anyway
Am northern European and this guys villa made me cringe, so much money but almost no insulation for house...... i bet in summer he will need to blast ACs to the max.
-5 degrees outside and its only +9 inside. thats a horrible shitty house that would be illegal to build do to regulations so people dont get scammed and dont waste energy.
I live in shitty 80s house and if its outside -30 i can easily keep +25C inside with not much increase in heating expenses.
If you want to try again, next time make a wood box to surround the rack (just keep everything already built so far where it is in the video), with 2-3 holes sized for some high speed case fans on the top. Then add an exhaust hole on the bottom with some dryer vent hose long enough to go under the desk. Aim hose at chair and you should feel a little warmer. Think of it like the homemade swamp coolers people swamped youtube with, but for heat.
Infrared panels could warm you up pretty nice, they could even fit under your desk and on the ceiling
I can’t believe Linus actually planned on using that 90 PLUS rated power supply
0:43 - Anthony rolls a nope and yeets the ball, Jake catches the ball and asks what is this for? See he's not even mad....yet.
Put it on the bottom of the desk. The heat will roll up in front of you. You should probably also put down carpet to heatbreak the floor. You could also rig a way to lower the ceiling.
Get some plastic sheeting and install a false ceiling in that area that should help keep the heat from escaping to the highest points in the garage.
15:42
Kyle: Here's a heater for my cats powered by folding@home
Linus: Here's a heater for my garage powered by fol-- uh... crypto mining
It's the bathroom TV all over again.
Put some insulation batts in the rafters directly above your little workspace. Will help tremendously since most heat loss is going to be through rising heat transfer.
I was thinking a hood angled down towards the chair with 3-4 fans pulling out of it.
seal it in a box on the wall with a opening on the top, and bottom, use a fan mounted on the bottom to pull air in from the top and blow it at you .. suggest low rpm fan for noise ... like a 180mm fan
I use 8 x 6700xt's to heat my conservatory when its -2c outside(it goes to 0-2c inside the room). It makes the room too hot, I have to have a window open drawing cold air in. It will get to 40c+ inside and the rig will turn off from getting too hot if a window is not open. Also it makes money.
It's always good to release your heat high in a room, since heated air will flow directly to the floor for best efficiency.
My two takeaways are using a closed case for optimal directional control and put it under your desk to keep your feet warm. Caution with children, pets, or people who eat and drink at their desk too. So basically everybody shouldn't do that.
Put it under the desk. Put curtains around it touching both sides of your chair. This way it will heat up your desk for the arms and from the opening around the chair will heat you directly.
you should use thick black theater curtains/cloth for the heat trapping (called molton in denmark, where i'm from), would work great for that plus it's also good for the acoustics 🙂
What about regular insulation that is designed for trapping heat? Crazy idea I know but let's give it a shot.
@@originalguckfoogle for sure, but that's not a curtain anymore
We had to move in with my brother and sister in law in 2020 and spent the winter of 2020 in their basement. They only had one HVAC vent and a space heater built into the tv stand, along with it being an 80+ year old house with pretty sure original windows, it got drafty. I hung blackout curtains like you did at specific points that separated our living space, sleeping space, and the hall that lead to the bathroom and stairs that went upstairs. It made a HUGE difference after the curtains went up. Going from one side to the other was also night and day. So even if you decide to not use the mining rig to heat the area, the curtains and a space heater while you work will make a difference.
You don't enjoy people walking in when you are naked? hm seems like a you problem..
Time to install some windows that aren't to specs half a century ago.
My mum lived in a house built in the 30s and never had issues with heating or isolation.
you should leave it running for a day and see if the temperature improved at all. Difficult to imagine it is only 1 degree.
Been heating my shop all winter with 1.3ghs on ETC. It definitely does work, but you gotta do a better job of trapping the heat.
Place the rig on the floor in you little enclosed space and let it run overnight and should be several degrees above where it was. Close any gaps on the curtains as much as you can.
Use fans to circulate the air within the enclosure, and try to have neutral air pressure so you don't loose too much heat along the tops.
2:54 Really? A silver Taycan? COME ON! I expect you to paint it or wrap it in a cool color! Hopefully not LAMBO lol
I’ve had this idea. If you are using your mining rig to also heat a room it goes from not very efficient to perfectly efficient. Every watt is being used for a purpose.
Not the most efficient use, but a use non the less 😂
Heat rises. Mount it below the desk and cover the sides so the only direction the air can flow is directly at you.
The higher the ceiling, more volume you're trying to heat. Also consider insulating the spaces between the rafters.
I love the Shadows graphic/picture on the wall.
Fun fact about temperature, it was made as a non feeling based way to measure heat. It's not going to map to feeling warm 1:1.
14:20 you know heat goes "up" . right?