Lake Oroville is Rising Fast
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Hello, welcome to timeBomb and the Lake Oroville update for January 2023. A series of large rain storms have dumped tremendous amounts of water in Northern California. All this rain is helping raise water levels in California's reservoirs including Lake Shasta and Lake Oroville.
In today's video, we will take a look at Lake Oroville's water level and the snowpack in the Upper Sierra Mountains. After I review the statistics I take a look at a news release from the Bureau of Reclamation that suggests increased water releases from Lake Oroville to prevent flooding during the spring run-off.
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This was out of date by the time it was posted on January 16 2023. Right now, 1 hour after posting, the level is at 784.96 feet, 104% of the historic average.
😂 dam that’s actually really fast
Yea cool
And still rising 👍
Nice call out.
787.63
Feet MSL
Tuesday, January 17, 2023
6:00:00 PM
Level is 112.37 feet
below full pool of 900.00
Change Since Yesterday: 3.51 Feet
For the record, flooding did not cause the spillway to fail. The spillway was designed to carry flood overflow. Lack of maintenance by the state of California over many years caused the spillway to deteriorate badly, and when it was then inundated with large amounts of fast moving water, it failed. Irresponsible bureaucrats caused that failure.
Absolutely correct 👈👍
All from a small single Crack in the spillway too
The danger did not come from the spillway failure...they still could of used the spillway to release without any concrete bed at all...those engineers got that spillway placement right on because it's sits atop a huge natural stone base in the hillside...
It was the Coffer dam failure...
In early 60s when they finished it they pocketed the money to cement that Coffer dam...no Engineer in his right mind would of signed off on a dirt Coffer dam with no cement and rebar reinforcement...what happened was someone said this won't fill up for 20 years... we're done here....
Then all's you need is some idiot at the control thinking it's a good idea to fill the lake when we had the most snowpack in recorder history...enter Pineapple Express....snow level rose from ,2500-8000 feet over night with weeks of snow in the lower elevations...
That water was eating it's way back towards the lake at 12-18 feet an hour....
Thank you for the technically correct reply. Long-term failure to maintain plant growth and spillway maintenance allowed the facility to become weakened resulting in catastrophic damage.
Actually It was built incorrectly in the first place, this allowed water to seep underneath the concrete spillway and cause It to give way. The land was incorrectly surveyed when It was built.
Rising and filling lakes and resorvoirs is a good thang!👍🏻
So when they open spillways for more water, are they just throwing away fresh water for more fresh water? Shouldn’t they be devising a plan to fill additional reservoirs ?
@@powerpimpin775
Would you want to pay billions of dollars for something that only gets used every 2-3 years.... Maybe.
I ask because if they built them, it would be the feds, aka our tax money, paying for it.
Yeah, these alarmist need to calm down. Weather is cyclic.
Greetings from the BIG SKY. Good to see you guys get some water.
The best dam update available.
Shasta and Oroville always fill fast. The problem is they have this water level for a certain time of year procedure and if the lake is too high in February they will dump it to make room from Spring Rain then it doesn't rain we end up with low lake levels.
You need more infrastructure to disperse water.
Sounds like they need to build more dams. If they are releasing water to make more room for water it means you are wasting water.
Ahhh our govt at work ...the same idiots who release fresh water down the sacramento river because an invasive species of fish "need the flow '
@@snapon666 ah yes, because endangered salmon are invasive species
It’s a solvable issue
You would NEVER get this from MSM "news". Short, succinct, informative, and to the point.
Thanks for making this.
Wow, thank you so much.
The gov and media will still be complaining of drought come July...
"Silver lining"?? These rains are ALL golden.
Yeah, Beautiful Golden showers!
Except when your house gets flooded, rip
Thank you for the information you share.
Thank you
Great news. Thank you
This is good news thanks 👍
You're welcome.
Dam! That’s great news!
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beautifully heavy rainy rainy allday-allnight in the shasta lake tide water up...
keep continue more rainy rainy snowy snowy until december 2023
Great so glad its filling up.
living just a few miles from lake Oroville in the 80's and 90's my family spent a lot of time on the lake water skiing, it is a nice big lake with some nice arms for skiing. I am glad to se that it is filling back up.
Thank you for your excellent briefing. I work in Aviation Safety here in Canada, and I like to stay abreast of the hydrological situation with my Southern neighbours. Your factual presentation of interesting highly relevant data sets the standard for other meteorological/climatological channels.
Thank you so much. These kinds of comments are what keep me going.
Best California damn and water situation update video I’ve seen. 👊💪
👍 love it a blessing
The average measurement on the graph at 1:19 does not match the numbers on the y-axis.
Sincere thanks for sharing this informative video.
I am following this actively on the California Data Exchange, and the website Engaging Interactive. Lake Oroville currently has 2,068 (kaf=thousands of acre feet) of water, is 58.5% Capacity, is 105.7% above the Historical Average for this date. Lake Shasta has more water due to it's higher capacity. There is still room for more water especially in these three larger Lakes, Trinity Lake, New Melones Reservoir, San Luis Reservoir, yet overall California is currently at 97.4% of the Historical Average. Lake Shasta is 52.6% Capacity, 85.7% Historical Level, so California is in a much better situation than before these storms.
Better yet…move to another State.
Don't worry, it'll fix itself somehow
Worst case scenario California has to ship in bottled water or open up a desalination plant.
AWESOME
Hopefully they still cut uses and give it time to fill some-what up.Not treat this like we can waste all the water
How do you think the water is used? I'll bet you have no idea but have some preconceived ideas. How much of the water do you think is used to supply houses with all their pools and lawns? Only 10% of the water is used by urban dwellers. Cutting back water in this area does very little (nothing) but that is the focus of all the media attention and finger waggers.
50% of the water is "used" for environmental....meaning we let it flow down the rivers to help the fish and the salinity of San Francisco Bay and Delta.
@@RH-cv1rg Well then maybe people shouldn't be stupid and live where water needs to be trucked in or an arid climate. Don't talk like an idiot, people also water their lawns and need if for their swimming pools and fountains.
@@COYO-T Watering lawns, pools, and fountains is about 3% of the water usage. I have no idea why people are so focused on the 3% (jealous of other having pools or living the good life?) but pay no attention to the 50% of the water that flows down the river for environmental reasons?
You do realize that without the dams there would be no water to release during the year. It would all come down at one time and then nothing all summer. If we want to go back to nature, very little should flow down the streams during the summer, just like Mother Nature designed it. Instead, we release 1/2 our water "for the environment".
This is good news.
Thank you. I was just about to go out and measure it.
Don't expect Folsom Lake to reach the 418 level of the spillways on the dam itself. Reason: the new auxiliary spillway that opened in late 2017 at Folsom Dam and is keeping the water level at 358 feet.
Thx for the rpt.
You are welcome. Thank you for watching!
Great news in some respects all this water and snow.
Bummer. It was fun watching the level go down
Take note of the high water mark around the lake, that is a better indicator.
787ft. right now going up hourly.
I am not a soils engineer or geologist. During the drought, could the reservoir have been dug deeper, thereby increasing it's capacity without reengineering the dam?
Good question, they could have removed sediment while the water was low but that did not happen. There is some talk about raising the height of Shasta Dam so it could hold more water but not Oroville.
Wait until the spring thaw…
Knock on wood (or water!) things are looking good - just praying for more cold, wet storms in the next two months least to build that critical snowpack-
It is a very good feeling to have more water, please conserve and don't waste it.
Its gunna be wasted to grow more almonds
It's gonna be wasted to keep the price of water high, It all about money and corruption.
@@drugmoney4996 If the water is wasted then they will have to buy water from other states. So they won't make more money but spend more.
@@PyroShields And pass the expense on to the consumer.
@@drugmoney4996 Your original comment you said it's about money. Well going by your logic the only people who would be making money is out of states not Californians
Praise God!🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank You Father🙏 Let us not grow weary or tired against resisting Tyranny 🇺🇦
You’re welcome.
With near record snowpack in the Sierra, when that melts off it will be a juggling act to get to full pool. They might have to release water to make room for the melt off. Would be sad to see that happen since the farmers downstream get another hit with inconsistent water flows.
I dont think that full pool is the goal here. Full pool before the big melt is very dangerous as we saw in 2017.
what if we monitor the situation, continue to hold and release mininum. We can always release more if needed. if we release too much and say the rain stops for good for the year. we will end up too low during the summer and the same agency will say we do not have enough water. we need smarter control and accountability.
Good charts
Ive always found using Mean Sea Level for measuring dam water levels annoying. Why not measure from lowest point of the reservoir to max capacity level of the dam?
buh ma globbal warmin 😭😭😭
I can't help but notice there were a million Lake Mead videos when it was losing water but now that they're getting water everybody talking about every lake But Mead.
Thank You Especially for your narrating ability to be extra good and Not sound like some who sound like a hustling car salesman to suck viewers in! = a serious genuine Compliment
This is great news for my lake front property there! The views will be much better now
Go, Lake Orville! Climate change will require more exacting management of our water 💦 resources. Let's start to be Climate Smart!
Usage is the problem. As long as the CA population grows, water shortages will worsen no matter how full the reservoirs get.
I still think the water manage is off. Why let water go down stream early. Over flows can be made to release water when it hits the spill-way. And still have an emergency that works properly when need be as a secondary means.
Hopefully Oroville and Shasta along with the other 4 or 5 big reservoirs can get to full. Utah is going to help the Colorado. Now we need California,,Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico need to get a ton of snow and rain the next 5 months. Most of Oregon needs a lot as well.
Next 5 months???
Maybe two more months of winter weather left.
California has no reservoirs. Doesn't matter how much snow anyone gets.
Error at 1:17 -- "776.00 Average" does not match the bar which is shown as ~ 815 ft.
The inflows can be so massive that they cannot release water through the spillway nearly as fast. So they must keep ahead of it by running the spillway early before the main runoff happens. Must be kind of stressful managing the springtime reservoir levels up there.
It's going to get more interesting when the run off comes in the spring. Depending on how fast it melts . I'm glad I don't live in California anymore. My sister just moved from upstream of the reservoir over a year ago because she was tired of getting bugged out for Wildfires. They went to Texas to be with the grand kids. Just in time for a Huracain the freeze up and a month ago a flash flood. I told I will visit but won't live close to her . Family joke. I said she and her husband must have done something to tick off mother nature.
Moving upstream from Oroville puts one more in the wildfire zone. Those are the mountains up there. Moving downstream to the valley decreases wildfire risk.
@@RH-cv1rg my brother in law was raised in the Northern California Mountains he's almost 70 . It like my family being Dutch. Flood Fire Earthquake. I lived through A 7 plus in southern California as a kid . Recently a 5. It didn't scare me like when I was a kid .I've been a Forester. Built homes worked Ranches. I'm trying to retire after 28 years water department flood control. Nature is going to do its thing. It's just respect her or at least be ready to get out of the way. Your absolutely correct about living upstream. It likes to burn.
GREAT NEWS! Does anyone else need some great news in their lives at this point in time? Lord knows I do.
Does anyone think that lake mead will hit dead pool level before it begins too fill back up again? 🤔🧐
great video. you should disallow comments.
How's folsom? Last time I went there it was so depressing to drive IN the lake, I almost cried
Jeeze get a life....
I grew up fishing that lake, now Castaic is my local reservoir and it had dropped 130 or so feet.
Did the "voice" change for this youtube channel?
Why didnt California make their reservoirs larger while they were in a huge drought?
Not doing so seems like a massive oversight!
Trump administration asked California if they wanted to increase lake Shasta, California said no. California and Oregon want to remove damns.
environmental impact is taken into consideration. klamath lake dam is scheduled for dismantling in the near future, as are other dams.
Because people in California don't want to work most want things for free why do you think everything is so expensive for the taxpayer there
In 2014, Californians voters approved 2 ballot initiatives focused on water storage and infrastructure. As usual, nothing has happened meaning not one new reservoir has been built. California Marxism.
environmentalists are removing dams in Calif on a regular basis for the last 2 decades for fish. Enviros control what goes on, not working families. Get our your checkbook 2023 will cost you more for 'resources'.
Let's check back in come June and ask "Why is this lake empty, where did all of that water go?"
Great update. Someone should recommend this site to the notoriously short sighted Sacramento government and Newsom. Just saying.
Show me pics of the lake before and after..
Good reporting. Thank you.
They need to conserve in anticipation of future droughts
Californias logic is far too minuscule to foresee such issues. 😅
This is indeed good news. We LA residents were getting worried that we might not be able to water our lawns starting in Spring.
Now is the time to install a swimming pool if you don’t have one . Swimming pools make great water storage . Swimming pool water not regulated like washing cars or garden water usage .
@@vmobile890 Great idea! I'm calling a pool contractor first thing in the morning. Thanks for the sage advice!
CA receives plenty of rainfall in these periods to carry the state through dry years, if it could be capture in reservoirs like Oroville. Instead most of it goes out to the Pacific. Oroville and the others and not nearly enough. Projects like Sites have been on the drawing board since the 1950s, and always blocked.
They could do simple, inexpensive rainwater harvesting projects like the Paani foundation in India but that would be too easy.
@@Scepticalasfuk Yep. If you are a Californian Green, first you start w the concept that (other) people are all bad, all the time. Earth good, people bad. More water storage would help people and well … they can’t have that. Next up, Greens plan to snap their fingers and make half the people disappear.
Now, imagine a pineapple express atmospheric river on all that snowpack! Talk about a catastrophic event. Let's hope it stays cold for a while!
I’m curious how the record only goes back to 2017
A warmer world is a wetter world. There are some expanded deserts due to ocean currents, but on the whole, Earth's land biomass benefits from more rainfall & snowfall.
It would seem like a good idea to have a secondary reservoir for times like this.
They can't even keep the current reservoirs up to date.
Lol. Controlling the water and lack thereof is by design. The govt would rather ration water than to create another reservoir.
there are 1300 reservoirs in the state. and you have to build acqueducts and pumps to move all the water from one dam to another. That cost lots an lots of money.
Like maybe an underground reservoir?
BTW, does anyone have any info on the Ogallala reservoir?
@@derred723 high speed rail to nowhere costs lots of money too. We’re being played.
FYI, it took 30 plus years for this lake to drain from 90% to 36%...after 2017 when it filled to over 100% full, it took less than three years to drain down to 34%. All to mismanagement by politicians in california who need the water crisis to hold over citizens of california.
Excellent comment! It will be interesting to see how the politicians and managers handle this influx of water.
Never let a crisis go to waste. And, if there's no crisis, *make one!*
The second bar graph makes no sense. Bar levels don't match the numbers on the Y axis.
Yes ...... How can overflow "damage" a spillway which is there to drain water overflow????? ...... Unless, of course, you're not maintaining the spillway
California needs massive infrastructure to capture these torrential rains.
Yeah but thats not a popular talking point during elections so wont happen
I think Mother Nature just woke up from a longer than normal nap and realized she she forgot to plug the drain before she fell asleep and is trying to fill it back up! 😂
we need these lakes and snow mountains to stay frozen until spring comes.
Now if they can just mange it right
It's great that there is new rainfall going into the water system that CA fails to properly maintain. Yay, CA!
The lake is still half empty
I though a lake was named after the brillian scifi series The Orville
Yes, WE are using more than ever, with golf courses gouging up so much water, however it will balance out I hope
Since when has a lake's water level anywhere been measured from the mean sea level. Lakes have depth, meaning how high the water is above the low ground level (usually at the base of the dam).
Using mean sea level to measure how high the water is would mean that the lake where I live is at over 3000 feet in spite of the fact that the maximum water depth is actually only around 100 feet.
The lakes, from Oroville, to Mead, to Powell all have the same issue. It isn't the levels, it's the usage. Check the last century. But I wish all luck. They need it.
I don't think repairs have been made to the Gates of the Oroville Dam, yet. The Main Spillway can't handle large amounts of water due to Simple Harmonic Motion.
Your mom has good harmonic motion
Repairs to the main spillway and emergency spillway were completed three years ago. Its ready to use.
@@jeffmorse645 I know that when the Main Spillway was destroyed in 2017 the Main and Emergency Spillways were rebuilt. There are questions about the likelihood of the Main Spillway being destroyed by Simple Harmonic Motion. As of last year the gates had not be serviced yet. There were still gaps in the gate that allowed too much water to escape. I watched the repairs on live CAM and listened to critics in real time chim in about the work performed.
@@keithmandeville4953 - The seals were replaced during reconstruction. I think you are partaking too much. Your 'simple harmonic motion' conspiracy is precious,
@@vincentsutter1071 Simple Harmonic Motion is the reason DNR had to shut the heavy flow down to a trickle. See for yourself how Simple Harmonic Motion destroyed the bridge "Galloping Gurdie" on YT. Scott Cahill, a master dam builder, will explain to you the problems. There where big problems with seepage through the gates last year or maybe year before. Spalling was also a problem. The current level of Lake Oroville is 787 feet. Pretty soon the water will be lapping at the gates. We'll see how things hold up.
Just think if we only had the Auburn Dam. Think of all the crops that could be grown. The lives made better by honest work.
Looks like there is 125 feet left to go into the lake..
Please make a video dedicated to all the major California reservoirs after all this rain.
What happened to the old narrator?
I think it's time for Western States to have or should say build many more reservoirs and dams To account for the water usage of the growing population which to my research the water supply has not kept up with.
It's actually at 788 ft.
3:03 50,000 Cubic feet per second. That’s hard to imagine.
Not really. That's the equivalent of one inch of rainfall on just 13 acres. It's a really, really, tiny amount of water in the bigger scheme of things.
@@teebob21
”Acre feet” is THE silliest measurement EVER.
But you added acre inch… jeezzzz…
Use cubic meter, cubic kilometer, etc to keep any type of respect!
@@My_HandleIs_ I'll respect useful units. So, as a farmer, if I have 260 hectares under cultivation and I pump 46,000 cubic meters of water from my pond, how much water have I applied to my crops which need 3 mm of moisture per week, and do I need more? Can you tell me off the top of your head or do I have to break out the slide rule for you?
The acre-foot and acre-inch are far superior and intuitive measures of volume for agricultural purposes, which is why they continue to be used. The area under cultivation is fixed, so I only need to calculate for depth: 640 ÷ 12 ≈ 53 acre-feet.
And yes, "length" is a somewhat silly unit to be measuring fluid volume with until you realize that's how you measure depth, too.
@@teebob21 ”The hectare is a non-SI metric unit of area equal to a square with 100-metre sides, or 10,000 m², and is primarily used in the measurement of land. There are 100 hectares in one square kilometre. An acre is about 0.405 hectares and one hectare contains about 2.47 acres.”
The solution to your question, is of course to only use SI units, like NASA and many others do.
You have your square kilometers and your volume of water and you divide the two to find your ”rainfall” equivalent depth.
So your 260 ha is 2,6 km2 on which you spread out 46 000 m3.
46000 m3 / 2600000 m2= 0,017 m = 17 mm, it seems.
I did this in the tiniest of comment field on YT on mobile, let’s hope I got it right… I’m sure the farmer can do the math on the kitchen table and make a lookup table or find the shortcut to the volume needed for the crops.
Acre foot is still silly!
@@My_HandleIs_ My land is platted in acres and the government requires reporting in acre-feet. My pump is rated for gallons/minute. I can do all that math on my fingertips in the field. Millimeters/square kilometer doesn't help me at all, even if it is convenient to those who can only remember things that are grouped in units of 10.
@1:30 why is the bar showing 776.00 Feet between 780 and 840. someone might need to have another look at your graphics. LOL
By the way,Oroville dam never failed . The spillway did. 😊 3:54
Oroville Dam, is a earthen dam ( soil and rocks ) constructed in 1968. 54 years old. Time to replace with a new modern concrete dam. Cost $7 billion. Cost to wait and let mother nature prove earthen dams are not built to last forever? $900 billion.
All this as all the devastation is forgotten.
Woooh! Back to water gluttony!
Let everyone create a water reservoir in their backyard.
It's illegal to kidnap water.
Bring in water restrictions, and learn how to use water wisely
It has been raining for the last week.
Hopefully we can get a reprieve of all the drought fear-mongering.
What are these measurements in English please.