Why Shaq Was the ONLY Player That Tim and RJ Were Afraid Of
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- In this clip, Tim Legler and Richard Jefferson share with JJ how there were never any players in the NBA that they were afraid of...except one. And that's Shaquille O'Neal.
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Most players would never say it, but if you watched Shaq's career in his prime, you could see it in their faces. They were scared to get in front of him.
A lot of players said that
I think most players of the 2000s have admitted that Prime Shaq was the most terrifying being to ever touch a basketball
But is why I said that Shaq underachieved for his career. He should Wilt’s stats with Bill Russell’s ring count.
These guys genuinely LOVE basketball and it’s such a joy to see how happy they are just to sit there talking hoops
Imagine getting dunked on by Shaq then seeing yourself getting destroyed on the post game highlight reel
For 30 years
I don’t mind, he’s shaq. What I would mind is getting dunked on by Spud Webb or Muggsy Bogues.
Forever….
What about it? Shaq did this every night
I’d be lit still, THATS ME
There must be a therapy group for 7-foot, 6-foul- centers of the late 90's and 2000s. And imagine if Shaq could shoot free throws...
45 a game😂
Well, he could when its needed..he's just not accurate and consistent on a nightly basis as we hoped he couldve been..
“6-foul center” is a great term
Screw the free throws, imagine if he stayed in shape?!
Teams needed bodies for Shaq. Shaq could've fouled out half your team.
I love that final point by Legler. He was in a no-lose situation guarding Jordan. Nobody would expect him to defend well against Jordan, so if he can put together a strong defensive sequence, then good for him.
Yes, great point overall - looking at challenges as opportunities (no lose situations)
So it is way passed fear, already admitting lose. 😂
It's why you never fight weaker or smaller opponents because you have nothing to gain if you win and everything to lose if you don't.
Anyone remember when a young Andrew Bynum got dunked on by Shaq and Bynum ended up with a dunk against him the following possession? Props to Bynum for not being afraid
Bynum could've been all time big .. had all the tools
Dude Bynum could’ve been a top 10 player of all time. It’s a shame he could never be what he was supposed to be
@@SoggySlopsterthat’s a stretch 😭
If Bynum had Kobe’s mentality, curry’s shooting, AI handles, shaq’s body, Hakeem’s footwork, and Duncan’s fundamentals, he’d be the greatest big man of all time.
Props to Bynum but that SHAQ was already old and past his prime
Shaq stories is golden 😂
Shaq was unguarded, especially in his prime!! As a Nets fans, when he just dominates the whole series!!! I knew we never had a chance. Shaq was freak of nature!!
Yup. The 2nd coming of Walt Chamberlin.
Unguardable?
@@newagain9964they’re nothing alike casual
@Kulasisi-xj9fk Yes!! SHAQ was a beast in his prime!! Go watch highlights of him, and nobody was stopping him at that point.
@@pinbarbecue1100 Rodman did. Yao did.
If Shaq had the ball and casually strolled in the direction of the rim, he'd strike fear into the hearts of any man guarding the net. Big man needs big brakes and chances are, you are the brake.
big man, small man, doesn’t matter what kind of man you are, if SHAQ is coming down the court running at you on a fast break, you’re gonna have a bad time😅
*the brick wall that cars are crash tested on
I've seen game after game, after game, after game... of Shaquille O'Neal. All I have to say is it must've been very very very frustrating to have to guard Shaq.
To do the impossible.
Not one person actually cares about you or your option
@@BrandishingWeaponstf?
@@BrandishingWeaponsI do.
@@BrandishingWeaponsI care, Marcus
These guys having some of the best basketball conversations ive heard in awhile. Very refreshing
It's always funny when SAS insists he knows how players feel even when real players tell him he's wrong.
Thankful for this clarity because the non-athlete nba personalities uses “fear” and I never understood it. People fear God/death, not a damn basketball player
Exactly like wtf would a professional athlete be afraid of another person for no reason.
Maybe in fighting sports, but not in ball games.
This just shows how little you grasp the English language tbh
Legs' point about getting scored on by a bench guy being worse than by MJ is interesting. Totally get where he's coming from too.
his takes on here are really, really good
You three have great synergy together!
I think it probably happens more with offensive players being matched up with certain defenders. If you are not an elite offensive player, and you are matched up against an elite defensive player, you may start to question yourself after a few bad possessions. And that is probably as close to fear as it gets out there.
I think when someone says a team is scary they are talking personally as a fan and what that team is capable of doing to theirs, not how the players are feeling.
I loved it when Rodman guarded Shaq it was a battle. Shaq won those but Rodman could guard him one on one.
i think the key is that Rodman didn't care about getting hurt.. most guys like Tim said.. fear is getting career ended by a 300lbs guy falling on you..
If Orlando Shaq played against somebody just like L.A Shaq, he would have been scared too😭 even JORDAN said he was afraid of Shaq when he returned in mid 90s
Then he swept Shaq 🤣
@@JorgeReyesMD that’s why he’s the 🐐
@@JorgeReyesMDdidn’t Shaq beat MJ in the playoff too?
@@steviechampagneyup the only one to do it in the middle of his 6 rings even tho he didn’t play the whole season and didn’t have a training camp
@@JorgeReyesMDThe difference is that in the 90’s there was almost no switching, so it was extremely rare to see MJ guarding a big .. But in todays era, guys like Shroder would sometimes have to guard Shaq lol, like at least once every game, and man i would love to see that 😂Jokic is already bullying the league in the post, same for Zion or Lebron, so just imagine Shaq, who was 100pounds heavier than Giannis in his prime or post Lakers …
In the 1960s, NBA players worked at Radio Shack during the summer.
Why are we matching shirts to the light fixtures JJ?
Love the show! Semantics guts, ur playing a word game ..., the issue is how you define "Fear" ..., no'wadda'mean?
Should ask which refs were they afraid of, like Chris Paul fears Scott Foster.
Shaq was surreal. Before people bash him. Keep in mind there are few players we can say that had an impact on the game. Shaq was one of them. Had to change the rims and backboards, how to construct your roster, and very later in his career, the hack a shaq method. Teams needed 2-3 guys just to absorb fouls because no one could guard him. 7’1, 300lbs, nimble, and efficient around the rim. Dude’s drop stop, spin move, and jump hook were damn near flawless. For a dude that big, his footwork was exceptional.
I’m scared of jj’s shirt 😂
Lol looks like a GTA5 shirt 👕
You just can imagine Shaq peeing his pants in joy hearing his name get mentioned.
We seen guys for 20 years now make a business decision and get out of lebrons way when he is driving to the paint 😂
Yes, but Bron is not feared😂
Remember how Tyler Hansbrough looked at Ron Artest. That was fear 🤣
I think intimidation is a better word. The aura of "fear" that MJ left i think is better described as losing your composure and focus. Worried that jordan would put you gonna out you on the headlines or that you would say something he takes personally and puts up an above average performance was a real thing. But yeah i think its fair to say thats not fear. Real fear would be getting run over by shaq who specializes in physically dominating others.
Shaq has the most underrated peak ever. The only person who stopped Shaq was Shaq.
Real niggas know shaq and jordan are the only 2 players in history to win 3 straight finals mvps
@@lamart3857
MJ won 6
@@loslakers530 so how did he win 6 straight finals mvps when he retired than got eliminated by the magic? Make it make sense
@@lamart3857
Never said he won 6 straight, he won 3 his first repeat then 3 his second repeat
@@loslakers530 so what that got to do with my original comment? I said him and shaq are the only ones to win 3 straight
When Shaq ripped down the whole entire rim in Nets game that was fear. No Respect just fear.
Game 1 of lakers and pacers in the finals is the summary of who shaq was. There's no way to stop him.
Get some centers from 2000’s in here to talk about the hardest centers to guard
I think the fear happens in the guys who know they are going to have to be in the post game interview room when it's late in the game and you know you aren't clutch. Maybe not fear, maybe just dread, self-filfilling prophecy kind of thing
JJ with the stache like Luka LOL
they literally said they weren’t scared of anyone but the other position was
Stephen A needs to watch this
Real hoopers here. Shaq was just a different animal at his size especially Lakers Shaq.
You played at your local YMCA. You’re not a ‘real hooper’
@@hardwoodthought1213 lol you must live a sad life if all you tryna do on the net is bring negativity & clown ish... self projection is a mf. I meant THEY.. THEM.. the mfs on the podcast lol... not myself. I aint even play at the YMCA 🤣 I played in middle school league at the JCC I was super trash lmao (3pter kinda wet tho).
Facts bro people try to say shaq was only good bcuz he was big but there's been a bunch of guys in the league that was taller than shaq and there were also guys that weighed the same or more than him shaq had skills
@@lamart3857 hell yeah lol young Shaq was goin coast to coast in Orlando lookin like prime Giannis out there athletic af dude was dominant
@@vicegripp Big Facts
Luka smiling after making a couple of shots is pretty scary
JJ, 2nd video of me asking what your thoughts are on my team, and one of your former teams, the Orlando Magic. Paulo, Franz, and Suggs reminds me of Tatum, Brown, and Smart. But bigger.
If you were a good baller. Never scared.. Respect Tho👍🙌💪🙏
These guys didn’t play against Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley….those dudes were scary!
When Psycho T turned around hype and saw Udonis Haslem… Fear of God
Whole league feared them Andray Blatche, Agent 0 Wizards though
Shaq with the Magic could move fast too.
Scott Pollard was never the same after playing against shaq
Watching Shaq destroy Dikembe Mutombo was crazy
Reddick was the best three-point shooter on NBA live 2014 for me 😆🎃😶🌫️
He made mutumbo look like a rag doll
Just watch the Suns bench clear out of the way of Shaq... that was fear there...
Kevin Mchale said it best. He played one game versus shaq. “Yup it’s time for me retire.”
JJ Tim is your father: Maury voice
People feared getting put on a highlight by iverson and VC
as a Magic fan, i feard Jodan
didn’t JJ go off on Steven a Smith when he said players feared LeBron James when Stephen A said they didn’t?
03:28 can you pick a side? If that was scary why are you saying there was no fear? I guess fear and being scared are different hey 🤔
I just found out legler played in the league lol
Sure he has like the 2nd higher 3 point FG% ever
Q Rich took a charge from Shaq… man oh man .. I thought he RSVP the bbq in the sky ..
Represent Tim. These youngsters have no idea what a prime Shaq would do in today's league.
Fear is the wrong word, intimidation might have a better argument
Jordan was a different kind of player, playing in a much more aggressive and physical era. He didn’t just want to win, he wanted to break team spirits and dominate. He would mentally trash talk and verbally abuse opponents so yes, guys were afraid of him. They called him black Jesus… in basketball ball sneakers …it’s a totally different type of experience going against prime Michael.
Still not fear
He called himself Black Jesus.
no they called him that idiot @@Piece-O-Pie
@@GodofDisco I never heard anyone call Jordan "That idiot". Oh, and right back at ya.
Orlando Shaq was big but L.A. Shaq was BIG!!!
Maybe because it is just basketball, not MMA. Now over there, you will feel fear of what the other guy might do
Its too many players say they feared Jordan JJ 😂
I meant ..., semantics guys
Jordan was feared too .
More liked feared of a foul getting called for touching jordan but sure
Nobody feared MJ like that
feared of black jesus, you maybe too young, feared before the game when everybody knew he was gonna go for 50and embarrass you@@dweez4703
Nobody feared that Vince Carter would jump over you to dunk?
headline is not what they said...
JJ failed to understand that when a player is so clutch down the stretch that can absolutely induce fear for the opposing player guarding him. Jordan induces that and so does Curry - def not Lebron
Stephen A is going to try to redefine what he means so it fits.
Legend says Dudley still feels disrespected. 💜💛💪🔥🤣#bigdaddydiesel
Tim Duncan the only dude who ever bested Shaq H2H (Hakeem did but I’m not taking that seriously, Shaq was like a 3rd year player)
Ben Wallace defensively bested him
@@mactallica9293 Yeah but he provided almost no offence so I can’t say with any logic he outplayed Shaq. Duncan against Shaq played him better on D than anyone else bar specialist whilst also out scoring him with inferior offensive help to propel him
Lol, no Mac, go check the stats. Shaq beasted on Detroit, Kobe didn't give him the ball enough
@@sonadorazul3074U obviously don’t remember the games. They played Shaq single coverage and swarmed Kobe. The one game Kobe played hero ball they actually won. Lakers lost due to a lot of reasons.
@@anotherdayinparadise6006The major one being Kobes ego. They swarmed him knowing that if Shaq was getting his he’d refuse to pass to him, rather losing as the guy than winning as a second option, which he was
mj boy
Tim has a severely mutated thumb. Never seen one bend backwards like that
Remember when Yao blocked Shaq 3 times in a row when they 1st played I thought Yao was gonna destroy the whole nba at that time.
12-Chains Jefferson
You know shaq was a monster cause whenever older centers from that era go on podcasts one of the first couple questions theyre asked is always "what was it like guarding shaq" as if it was a war story.
Like zion in todays era. 😂 he isn't even 7 footer. Just the kid got strong upper body strength.
Clearly these guys have no idea what a metaphor is
Shaq fear O'Neal
Probably the reason jj never “feared” anyone is bc he was a defensive liability his entire career and whatever team he was on they put him on the worst person and they tried to him on defense. 😂
If Shaq was 6’6 he would work at the liquor store. But he wasn’t
You clearly know nothing. Players literally use to say Shaq is one of the few big men who if he was 6’3 would still be in the NBA
@@hardwoodthought1213 tell me how he would score. Shoot?
@@henryzhao4622 Yeah you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. When he came into the league he had guard like skills relative to his side. The point is if he was 6’3 he’d have learned to shoot. He didn’t need to.
@henryzhao4622 how tall is Zion? Ben Simmons was an all star while not being able to shoot
@@hardwoodthought1213 like he learned how to shoot free throws. 15 years and didn’t learn. Bc hack a Shaq didn’t mean he needed to right?
that scared /feared is come from mj and kobe fans to discredit lebron.
Leave it to SAS, everyone “feared” Jordan… like stop it…
Shaq himself said he feared jordan. Like look it up on youtube, you’ll see it. Thats how scary he was. And Richard didnt play against him lol…
@@rukawaa2please…you’re the type of fan that exhausts me please just shut up
@@rukawaa2 Richard did play against him...but MJ was on the wizards
@@adammohammed4959 thats my point lol
but according to jordan fans everyone feared him????
There were players scared of Kobe. They called him a demon. Also there were players scared of Jordan in his time.
It's more interesting to watch when ex NBA player become a sports analyst... Stephen A.Smith...and his buddy Skip Bayless 🤦😁🫢✌️🫰
JJ.
Burn that shirt.
I think they are just arguing semantics here, fear and respect are pretty much two sides of the same coin. For example us humans have a long history of fear and respect for the nature that we cannot control
Somebody had to be afraid of Karl Malone's elbows. They could turn you ugly (or uglier).
Remember the kg and Isaiah Rider story ? Yea a pure out of respect moment. 😂
This clip is filled with 🧢
there is no fear of physical pain, i mean they are all big men, so they can take some damage, but no one in the NBA is really seriously fighting LOL there's so much money on the line for them to do crazy, go-to-jail kinda stuff. dunno what Steven A is talking about fearing Jordan. fear of pain? Jordan won't fight you. If he does he's got more to lose fear of losing? he's going to beat you anyway like Legler said, so what is there to be afraid about? SAS is full of bs
i tend to disagree.. there was some fear of getting crush by 350lb shaq falling on you.. or throwing you back.. but he's like a total anomaly in the history of the nba.. with agility, strength and size... like if I told you.. you knocked shaq off balance and he was looking like he might be falling on you.. vs lebron.. you think theres no fear of physical pain?..
The going against Jordan fear was he’d drop 50+ on you and make you look bad. Guys feared Bird because he’d make you look stupid. It’s not terrified fear it’s the fear of failure or looking bad. and there have always been guys in the league who did that to the others.
the Kobe stans don’t wanna admit shaq is better all time
He could’ve been but he was just lazy
Shaq wouldn’t even say this nonsense, we all watched Kobe have a better career in real time
It’s not even basketball against Shaq it’s just rugby.
How is shaq not the goat?
of course there was fear with MJ. They didn't want to talk to him because he would go off. Typical JJ dirckriding LeBron and the current era. lol.,
You hear hall of famers talking about how they were scared to even look at him the wrong way.
More so fear of punishment from the nba and refs... Jordan was protected like no other.
So you just chose to not listen? They explained what fear meant, it didn't mean getting scored on or beat
Stephen a gotta stop with the people feared mj stuff nobody is afraid of anyone in the nba and Michael was 6’6” 210 while Lebron is 6’9” 260 plus like if no one is afraid of Lebron then people were definitely not afraid of jordan.