@@PaulDavids I absolutely tune by ear AFTER tuning with a tuner. Even though it says it's perfect pitch it never rings out right to me. I usually have to tune slightly down on higher note strings to get it to strum perfect. :)
Just imagine Frusciante - watching Paul's epic detailed breakdown of Scar Tissue's B string tuning - and being like 'huh... I guess I was out of tune' 😅
crazy. but not that crazy. paul is one of the foremost guitar players/teachers/influencers on youtube. anyone on youtube who's ever searched anything about the guitar has to have come across one of his videos even if they didn't click on it - including some of the top recording guitarists ever
@@360.Tapestry It's actually a bit surprising he said some guy and not Paul Davids, but I guess Rick's a busy guy who doesn't consume as much geet tube as us. Still quite a big ol SRV feather in his cap.
I used to tune my guitar with Scar Tissue when I don't have a tuner (in the old times before smartphones) because it is an easy riff to match the tuning. Now I know why it always sounded bad afterwards, except for that one song 🤣
There are different temperaments for tuning that do sound more organic or maybe pleasant is the right word but since the equal temperament is pretty standard you sound out if you use them
I calibrated the scale in my checkout lane to weigh by using what i thought was a 1 lb weight? But it was actually a 1 kilogram weight. I was basically giving everbody banana and apples at half price.
It boils down to the guitar being an imperfect instrument - even when you tune the strings perfectly, when you start playing it, it will sometimes sound out of tune as opposed to a harp or piano - the solution to this is a True Temperament Guitar (the frets are not perfectly straight, - but squiggly) Paul has a video on that as well. Steve Vai as well.
@@someguy2744 Pianos have the same tuning problem because they’re also tuned to equal temperament (actually to be precise, they’re tuned with stretch tuning, where it gradually gets more sharp or more flat as you approach the ends of the keyboard). So, even on a piano this interval will not sound “perfect.” That said, guitars have that same problem plus another one: the fret spacing isn’t always perfect, so they end up with additional errors beyond what’s already there from equal temperament.
This is a total normal thing we do in the band and orchestra world! Thirds are 14 cents flat and 5th and 14 cents sharp. Each player adjusts to what they hear! So cool to hear frusciante using it!
Justly intoned 5ths are 2 cents sharp, not a full 14. Twelve-tone equal temperament turns out to have fairly good fifths! Something I've noticed is that even when people tune by ear, major thirds aren't a full 14 cents, but something a bit less. I looked at spectrograms of some barbershop quartet recordings once, and on big in-tune chords the major thirds were more like 3-10 cents flat. One reason might be that being any flatter than 13.68 cents sounds worse than having thirds that are a bit sharper.
Do you really think he would film his reaction before having seen Frusciante's reaction for the first time, so technically before he knew he had the intention for this vid? It's all click bait acting lol And if you believe he did, then you seem to be a person that buy's in willingly some fake stuff.
@@Getyabootsoffskinny John Frusciante moved on from copying Hillel & found his own thing very quickly. He joined a band as an 18 year old & made it world famous by the time he was 21.
that was one of my favorite videos of yours Paul. I had a feeling that it was something that John didn't necessarily do on purpose. I really love the scar tissue riff. It has such an original sound.
@Some Guy it's a really cool listennif you haven't checked out the episode. A few times, JF goes into his infamous cryptic stories about voices/spirits. Those were Rubins favorite parts, and so were mine. 😅
I always feel like a guitar is slightly out of tune with itself depending on where you play certain strings. No matter how much I intonate the guitar I have yet to play a guitar that I don’t here this disparity. John did this out of intuition. Absolutely amazing that Rick Ruben saw your video and talked about it with John, so epic.
Eddie Van Halen did that years ago with the B-string. I grew up on VH but didn't even know that. I eventually was doing it too and was so surprised when I read Ed had been doing it for years. I just always thought that my guitars were crap and that's why it wasn't in tune. LOL
Can't remember who posted it but I remember a video of a guy explaining why you want to tune the B -15 cents always due to the intonation of most guitars spacing slightly differently on the B, if you're tuning by ear fretted note to fretted note (not playing the open string) you'll naturally end up in this tuning
@@reidjames4638 actually, one whole step is 200 cents and a half step is 100 cents. A quarter step (unplayable on guitar, only through bends), is 50 cents.
Proper intonation can be a tricky thing. Jimmy Hendrix used to just ignore or play around it; Neil Young would play an opening chord, make a face, twist a peg, play it again, and say ‘perfect’ although it wasn’t. Beautiful sound is in the ear of the beholder.
This was so wholesome from start to finish, then the little kiddie at the end. I just can't, been having a rough time recently and this just warmed my heart. Thank you 😊
This is why frusciante is one of the best and most underrated guitar players to ever live. He literally took an out of tune string and made it into a “happy accident” instead of a mistake, and the end result was one of RHCPs most iconic songs/rifts
Honestly what likely happened is he tuned it by ear mid-recording. I play trombone, so I know these random tuning things cuz I have to *and* can feasibly act on them. It sounds more in-tune to a musician even if it’s technically flat in the 12-tone system.
It's a pretty well known trick. EVH also uses it in tons of songs. It has to do with microtones and the fact you dont get those intervals on a guitar. It's also why if you have a keen ear - your guitar will often sound out of tune on the B string even when the tuner says it is perfect. Try playing EVH "feel your love tonight" then try playing it with the B tweaked slightly flat. You will see
You make a great point, I often feel like a D chord is slightly out of tune even tho the tuner says the strings are in tune. Of course intonation can be a bit tricky as well
No way he was 14 cents flat on recording on purpose. Thanks for making videos with intelligent content instead of trying hard to look cool or chicks using boobs for views.
It's called natural tuning and it dates back (not that is has disappeared, but in modern music we use a different tuning) to before Bach wrote his "Wohl temperierte Klavier". It is still used in baroque and Renaissance music. It allows a group of players to tap into each others overtones and gives an angelic felling and body to the music
I love this whole short. The respect, the enthusiasm, the expertise, and the fun at the end with your kid playing with the guitar strings. Makes me a proud dad.
This is really eye opening for me. I don't have perfect pitch, but when I tune the B on my acoustic with an electronic tuner, it always sounds out of tune or off pitch. Typically, I tune it down using a reference harmonic from another string.
Seriously one of the best RUclips channels out there. Regardless of this being a guitar channel, the way you approach your craft, and then deliver content, is so compelling enjoyable to watch.
Laughed my ass off when Frusciante said it was just a coincidence
I know! My best guess is he just tuned by ear, hitting that perfect major third, instead of trusting a tuner like us mortals ;-)
Would it be so popular if it was tuned correctly. Who knows.
Does this mean he plays live with the right tuning?
@@PaulDavids I absolutely tune by ear AFTER tuning with a tuner. Even though it says it's perfect pitch it never rings out right to me. I usually have to tune slightly down on higher note strings to get it to strum perfect. :)
@@PaulDavids haha right 😂👍
so cool :D
Just imagine Frusciante - watching Paul's epic detailed breakdown of Scar Tissue's B string tuning - and being like 'huh... I guess I was out of tune' 😅
@@formaiaguitar I don't get the impression from my comment that I thought he did ✌️
@@formaiaguitar but he was aware of it
@@leodivine Perfect response to nonsense.
@@leodivine as a matter of fact it might come across that way because of poor wording I guess
Rick Rubin watched it not frusciante. Still amazingly cool
How crazy is it that both Rick Rubin and John Frusciante watched your breakdown?! Congrats!!!
crazy. but not that crazy. paul is one of the foremost guitar players/teachers/influencers on youtube. anyone on youtube who's ever searched anything about the guitar has to have come across one of his videos even if they didn't click on it - including some of the top recording guitarists ever
have you ever heard of the six degrees of separation?
@@360.Tapestry It's actually a bit surprising he said some guy and not Paul Davids, but I guess Rick's a busy guy who doesn't consume as much geet tube as us. Still quite a big ol SRV feather in his cap.
Congratulations! Two legends are talking about your video!
I used to tune my guitar with Scar Tissue when I don't have a tuner (in the old times before smartphones) because it is an easy riff to match the tuning. Now I know why it always sounded bad afterwards, except for that one song 🤣
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@John Frusciante John actually bent it in
Thats funny, of all the songs to tune to, you had to pick that one, too funny, thanks for posting.
Funny shizz
There are different temperaments for tuning that do sound more organic or maybe pleasant is the right word but since the equal temperament is pretty standard you sound out if you use them
Wow congrats Paul, I cant imagine how delighted you were to hear Rick Rubin watches your videos
And Rubins voice, and the reverence to a guy taking apart a guitar part, wow, so, uh, smile-inducing?
When ur work is recognized by ur idols, there’s no better feeling. Congrats Paul.
It must be a delight for Rick Rubin to watch Paul's videos 😊 😂
I calibrated the scale in my checkout lane to weigh by using what i thought was a 1 lb weight? But it was actually a 1 kilogram weight. I was basically giving everbody banana and apples at half price.
The little hands like - dad it's my turn! 👍💯
My son always does this when I play 😂 Problem is it sounds like crap cuz I usually use distortion 😅
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what are you on about, he's performing his famous avant-garde noise rock piece!
@@4seiken-594 thats cool man, you should encourage it! get him his own guitar and let him make some noise
@@Eralen00 I will when he's old enough, kid just turned 1 year old a month ago 🤣
I loved it!
Bro the greatest producer of all time and one of the greatest guitarists of all time wach your videos that’s pretty cool
That's awesome.
Highlight for me was the little hand reaching up to the guitar
When you tuned that B string to -14 it sounded like the beginning of Chris Isaak's Wicked Game.
Ahhahah, that's what it was 😁
Same 😂
Came here to say this
Had to rewatch the video just because of this comment. 100% sounds like Wicked Game lol
That I believe it played by playing the B and dropping the whammy bar
I guess, you were granted a place in the Olymp by the other gods of guitar-music!
Paul going on this whole breakdown about how scar tissue is slightly out of tune and John’s just like “wait it was out of tune???” 😭
Frusciante didn't 'de-tune' the guitar, he simply tuned it to make it sound good - 'cause he is in tune with his guitar (I'll show myself out).
It boils down to the guitar being an imperfect instrument - even when you tune the strings perfectly, when you start playing it, it will sometimes sound out of tune as opposed to a harp or piano - the solution to this is a True Temperament Guitar (the frets are not perfectly straight, - but squiggly) Paul has a video on that as well. Steve Vai as well.
@@someguy2744 Pianos have the same tuning problem because they’re also tuned to equal temperament (actually to be precise, they’re tuned with stretch tuning, where it gradually gets more sharp or more flat as you approach the ends of the keyboard). So, even on a piano this interval will not sound “perfect.” That said, guitars have that same problem plus another one: the fret spacing isn’t always perfect, so they end up with additional errors beyond what’s already there from equal temperament.
@@400_billion_suns
I did not know that. Thank you for sharing.
@@400_billion_suns i thought strectch was the opposite of equal tempered
This is a total normal thing we do in the band and orchestra world! Thirds are 14 cents flat and 5th and 14 cents sharp. Each player adjusts to what they hear! So cool to hear frusciante using it!
was gonna bring this up. i've had instructors get super anal about those intervals hittin exactly right😂😂😂
Justly intoned 5ths are 2 cents sharp, not a full 14. Twelve-tone equal temperament turns out to have fairly good fifths!
Something I've noticed is that even when people tune by ear, major thirds aren't a full 14 cents, but something a bit less. I looked at spectrograms of some barbershop quartet recordings once, and on big in-tune chords the major thirds were more like 3-10 cents flat.
One reason might be that being any flatter than 13.68 cents sounds worse than having thirds that are a bit sharper.
5ths should be 2 cents sharp, actually. 14c is too much. Not to be that guy, sorry.
how do you do it?
Love that little hand at the end!
Paul's reaction is similar to the delight of a child who guessed which hand was holding a candy. Priceless emotions!
Do you really think he would film his reaction before having seen Frusciante's reaction for the first time, so technically before he knew he had the intention for this vid? It's all click bait acting lol And if you believe he did, then you seem to be a person that buy's in willingly some fake stuff.
These days I'm just so tired of hearing people talk about kids.
His smile at the end is like he was acknowledged by a childhood hero. That was kinda wholesome lol.
John is undoubtedly one of the most unique guitarist to walk earth. My top 10
Copied Jimi and Hillel
@@Getyabootsoffskinny John Frusciante moved on from copying Hillel & found his own thing very quickly. He joined a band as an 18 year old & made it world famous by the time he was 21.
@@Jimbob-hp6ud this man has made headlines since the mid 80’s.. that far back you could open a book and know this.
@@Jimbob-hp6ud now you say??? 😂😂😂😂😂
what happened to river
that was one of my favorite videos of yours Paul. I had a feeling that it was something that John didn't necessarily do on purpose. I really love the scar tissue riff. It has such an original sound.
Absolutely insane to think Rick Rubin watched your video. Congrats!
That's why I'd be psyched
But how did Frusciante immediately know it was Scar Tissue.
@Some Guy cause his guitar tech told him about the video. In the podcast he says "yeah, my guitar tech told me about it recently"
@@xavierrhcp13
Thanks for telling me.
I did not know that.
@Some Guy it's a really cool listennif you haven't checked out the episode. A few times, JF goes into his infamous cryptic stories about voices/spirits. Those were Rubins favorite parts, and so were mine. 😅
I always feel like a guitar is slightly out of tune with itself depending on where you play certain strings. No matter how much I intonate the guitar I have yet to play a guitar that I don’t here this disparity. John did this out of intuition. Absolutely amazing that Rick Ruben saw your video and talked about it with John, so epic.
Sweet ending haha those little fingers will one day also play the guitar
oh don't take this for guaranteed ;)
I'm gonna start sobbing!
Frusciante's among us :D
AMOGUS???????
Frusciante's humongous :D
jon susciante
This is obviously obvious, but it actually means, that Rick Rubin and John Frusciante watched your video. And btw found it “fascinating”
Eddie Van Halen did that years ago with the B-string. I grew up on VH but didn't even know that. I eventually was doing it too and was so surprised when I read Ed had been doing it for years. I just always thought that my guitars were crap and that's why it wasn't in tune. LOL
Yes. It's impossible to play intro "Running with the Devil" without slight alterations in tuning of 2nd and 3rd string.
Everybody including John knows this from VH
Yeah, but the Ramones did it before
@@patrickhook4424 Of course! They're graduates of Rock'n'Roll High School!
Can't remember who posted it but I remember a video of a guy explaining why you want to tune the B -15 cents always due to the intonation of most guitars spacing slightly differently on the B, if you're tuning by ear fretted note to fretted note (not playing the open string) you'll naturally end up in this tuning
Yeah, it was a nice moment hearing that they were talking about your video!! Amazing moment.
So now I also got to worry about cents when learning guitar 💀
@@reidjames4638 actually, one whole step is 200 cents and a half step is 100 cents. A quarter step (unplayable on guitar, only through bends), is 50 cents.
Depends on the guitar, a some guitars are hundreds of thousands of cents🙃
Proper intonation can be a tricky thing. Jimmy Hendrix used to just ignore or play around it; Neil Young would play an opening chord, make a face, twist a peg, play it again, and say ‘perfect’ although it wasn’t. Beautiful sound is in the ear of the beholder.
That is the definition of epic.
To get a reference from two legends. Absolutely epic
OH MY GOD PAUL that is so awesome! ♥️ I’m so happy for you!
Real comment
"Dad you can't play, let me show now ." 😁
Some of the highest quality guitar content on RUclips. I'm not surprised at all. Congrats
This was so wholesome from start to finish, then the little kiddie at the end. I just can't, been having a rough time recently and this just warmed my heart. Thank you 😊
ha i was just talking about this today bc of Adam Neely's B vs Cb video!
Fascinating 🎸
The little hands at the end are very cute!
Thank you, the whole interview blew my mind
This is why frusciante is one of the best and most underrated guitar players to ever live. He literally took an out of tune string and made it into a “happy accident” instead of a mistake, and the end result was one of RHCPs most iconic songs/rifts
Honestly what likely happened is he tuned it by ear mid-recording. I play trombone, so I know these random tuning things cuz I have to *and* can feasibly act on them. It sounds more in-tune to a musician even if it’s technically flat in the 12-tone system.
It's a pretty well known trick. EVH also uses it in tons of songs. It has to do with microtones and the fact you dont get those intervals on a guitar.
It's also why if you have a keen ear - your guitar will often sound out of tune on the B string even when the tuner says it is perfect.
Try playing EVH "feel your love tonight" then try playing it with the B tweaked slightly flat. You will see
You make a great point, I often feel like a D chord is slightly out of tune even tho the tuner says the strings are in tune. Of course intonation can be a bit tricky as well
Was so happy when I heard this in the podcast. :D
So cool! Those interviews are so good
Frusciante is such a genius he does stuff like that without knowing, god I love it
No way he was 14 cents flat on recording on purpose. Thanks for making videos with intelligent content instead of trying hard to look cool or chicks using boobs for views.
That's not what he's saying. John played it "slightly out of tune". He didn't measure any cents flat. The bloke making the video measured that.
When Rubin talks about you, you reach instant icon status,lol
When I heard this in the podcast I knew it was your video and now it’s confirmed. Soooo coooool!!!!
Paul Davids - I’m always learning something new from you brother. Thank you!
It's called natural tuning and it dates back (not that is has disappeared, but in modern music we use a different tuning) to before Bach wrote his "Wohl temperierte Klavier". It is still used in baroque and Renaissance music. It allows a group of players to tap into each others overtones and gives an angelic felling and body to the music
Congrats dude! Rick Rubin and Frusciante talking about you! RHCP for life
I was just listening to this and had to DM you, must be such a thrill knowing these guys had your vid on their radar!
John always being insane!
I was listening to this interview and knew they were talking about you! Congrats man, YOU’VE MADE IT!!!
I love this whole short. The respect, the enthusiasm, the expertise, and the fun at the end with your kid playing with the guitar strings. Makes me a proud dad.
That original video has stuck with me ever since I watched it, and I'm really glad it made it's way back to Frusciante. Awesome work as always Paul!
So many times I've been in musical situations where accidents happen but makes the music so much better
This is really eye opening for me. I don't have perfect pitch, but when I tune the B on my acoustic with an electronic tuner, it always sounds out of tune or off pitch. Typically, I tune it down using a reference harmonic from another string.
In the video Johns guitar is broken. I always loved that.
The slide solo on the broken neck is a particular highlight of the video
Seriously one of the best RUclips channels out there. Regardless of this being a guitar channel, the way you approach your craft, and then deliver content, is so compelling enjoyable to watch.
Your child's hand paying the guitar was my favorite part to the video
Well deserved validation by these two heavyweights! Loved your video! Congrats to your family! Peace and Love
That's awesome, Paul!
The kid running up to pluck the strings. I relate so hard 😂
Dude right when he mentioned that I knew instantly it was you!!
That’s gotta feel pretty cool man!
Whilst tuning down the string you unintentionally almost played Chris Isaak - Wicked Game
The little hand poping up as to correct you, No no, do it this way, melted my heart.
Oh that’s amazing!
Congratulations on having Rick Rubin and John F talking about your video!!
That's what i love about rock music. The attitude about it. Fuck what's right, it sounds good to me. Frusciante is one of the goats.
This isn't really just rock. It's just equal tempermant is out of tune. And orchestra would just naturally play these notes at these ratios
Paul ... that you worked that out by ear ... is genius ... thanks for sharing ...
Perfection in imperfection.
Your wholsome energy conbined with your kid coming in just made this the most wholsome video.
I remember watching that video. I actually leave that string tuned this way now. Sounds good with a lot of riffs I like to play.
That’s so cool! Love you Paul, watched you since I was young!
Thought that detune was the start of wicked game
Amazing! Both your knowledge and the fact that John spoke about it!!! Legend! 🎉
You deserve all this credit from the artists you cover. Just watched the Paul Simon response aswell. Keep it up 🎉
So happy for you man. Must have been exciting for you to hear this. Congrats man!
He already knew it's Scar Tissue, it wss unintended yet so good
Dude that's dope! Nice!
You rock man! Really love your work… Keep briging knowlegde and music always
I'VE BEEN LEARNING THIS SONG AND THIS JUST MADE MY DAY!!!❤❤❤❤
John never ceases to blow my mind. Paul, you as well have been steadily building your own solid list of blow-my-mind instances.
That little hand reaching from the void caught me off guard lol
That is so awesome!! Now…can we talk about how John detuned his voice to sound like Flea?
As a drummer, i can confirm that i had no idea what you said for more than half the video💀
Congrats brother! Well deserved!
I loved the child's fingers strumming the guitar. I love when my niece does the same
So well deserved that these two legends admire your work. Amazing. ❤
Love your little one’s strumming at the end.
He immediately answered that with the song man
Loved you as Arthur in Peaky Blinders!
No wonder I could never play that damn song!!!
And that b string detune sound is wicked game by chris isaac
That little hand at the end!! hahaha loved it
Achievement Unlocked! Well done. These two dudes have seen the clip - amazing.
What a feeling having other peers recognizing your work ❤ Great stuff as always 😊
I love John Frusciante what a legendary guitarist
The adorable finger!
Dude is so happy Lol, Respect bro!
Proves that out of tunes can be beautiful too… so i go easy on life 🎉
That's some passion and detail into it 😍
That little hand at the end fit perfect to this !👍😆