Queen Victoria's petticoat is installed at Kensington Palace
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- “The measurements of the petticoat correspond almost exactly to the measurements of her wedding dress…” Conservator Viola Nicastro describes the process of getting Queen Victoria’s delicate petticoat ready for display for #Victoria200 at Kensington Palace.
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Wow, i just realised how short Queen Victoria was through this coat.
I believe she got more short when she hit her 70s I read before she does she was just 4'8 inches
Yeah she was 5’0
But she was every inch a Queen. 👑
I'm fairly sure that Queen Victoria, or indeed any Victorian, would be mortified to know that her petticoat was displayed like this. How attitudes change! Today I wouldn't look twice if someone was walking down the street in less fabric than is used in this garment.
I'm not so sure. Given what she wrote in her diaries (which she wanted to be published)...
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Yes! Very likely blush worthy to have one's undergarments on show! How times have changed, indeed.
@violetstar20 yes, in Eugene, Oregon- it is legal.
@violetstar20 it is legal for women to be topless in NYC anyplace that it is legal for a man to be topless.
@violetstar20 NY already is one of them. New York has a court ruling that allows female "top equality" (i.e. wherever a man can expose his chest, a woman can, to -- e.g. walk shirtless on the street or in a park). In 2016, the state even reminded law enforcement not to arrest women for baring their breasts in any place men are allowed to so the same.
I’m as tall as Victoria was, so when people say I’m so short. I say “I’m as tall as a Queen.” Or “I’m every inch a Queen.”
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Excellent reply!
I'm 4'11" excellent! IM AS TALL AS A QUEEN!!!
I recreated this petticoat for myself to function as a petticoat for my 1850s wedding dress and as a simple dress in itself but it was made of cotton spandex to give me some more additional flexibility when I wore it as a casual party dress
Everyone is commenting on how short and tiny Queen Victoria was, but truly she was every inch a queen 👑
She was so tiny.
I knew she was small... But wow.
she was exactly five feet tall
@Silicone Julie 69cm is a normal size S, so if you consider her height she had a figure comparable to someone who wears size m if you go by proportion for a woman of average height today.
That was before she was essentially always pregnant for 20 years and then let herself go when she was a widow.
agrondinsmith85 Very, my mom is 5 foot and petite . I’m 5’6, and I feel like I tower over her.
@Silicone Julie ? Analyzing her size by today's standards to get an idea what size she might have been as a young woman?
Also, pregnancies were something she loathed and she was pregnant all the damn time. That must have sucked. I don't think anyone likes being pregnant that often. Long live prevention!
I realized how tiny she was, but then look at Queen Elizabeth II
well elizabeth is really tall compared to victoria, she's like 5'4" (or 1.64 cm), they're both still pretty short tho lmao
A lot of people saying her waist was not small and she was pretty short. Who cares? She was strong as hell, physically and mentally, whether we agree with her or not. She was powerful and that proves that heights don’t matter.
I love this lady’s voice.. so calming
She has frog in her throat 🐸🐸🐸
Im not trying to come off rude at all..but i watched the one about her silk shoes and now this one and wondered why they arent using gloves when handling these precious items. Especially to protect it from the dirt and oils from fingers and hands that can ruin it.
In the scale of things these objects aren't that old. Many private collectors have items of the same age that are safe to handle and sometimes even wear. Something of Victoria's is probably in even better shape, and gloves wouldnt provide much protection but would up the chance of accidently ripping the fabric as you can't feel how much tension is in the garment without the sensitivity of the fingertips.
@@persomnus Ah, very informative. Yes, that petticoat looks almost new and so beautiful.
gloves are no longer best practice in handling of garments since you can't properly tell what level of pressure you are using when handling the object, this means fragile objects are at risk of getting torn or damaged which is worse than a bit of oil exposure. Now archivists just make sure to wash their hands before handling objects, and if there's a need for prolonged contact with the object then they'll stop every now and then to wash their hands.
I couldn't agree more! This is one reason why we no longer have that many of these items today! Improper handling.
These so called " professional artifact handlers " should already know better the proper procedures of handling such delicate worn items,of important once Royalty .
Would be ashamed and embarrassed to have had someone,as such these women representing a company that deals with such special artifacts such as the clothing attire of Victoria .
I find the comment that a 26 inch waist is tiny for someone around 5 foot funny. That is a pretty normal size if not on the plump range. Heck at that age at 5'7" I had a 22 inch waist without a corset and 19 with one and I never tight-lace, just wore them for events. When folks go back and look at the age of the gals who wore the tiny corsets and clothes that we have today they are young 16-22. Most of the time the clothing was kept because it was special, or to small to reuse. I'd put money that the reason you don't see much plus size clothes is it got up-cycled. Bernadette Banner did a video about corset sizes, most that she found for young women were 19-22 inchs, older women after kids were 32. Still not far off what you see today in folks of a healthy weight.
I’m 5’3 and my waist at eighteen was 22 inches. No corset ever.
@@clod8 I'm 5'4 and I was 23 inches when I was 18. No corset either.
I was thinking the same thing! I was a size 27 in waist being 5 ft 9 in and models have tinier waists than that.
I love the style it is being display!
It’s so pretty, I’d wear it as a dress.
She was so tiny! I'm only 5'5 myself. But she looks like she was about 5'0.I never really realized how short she was untill you see her dresses!
She was barely 5 feet tall. Some sources say that she may have been as small as 4 feet 10 or 11 inches. However, when she died she was nearly 5 feet around the middle.
What a marvelous job making and dressing the mannequin, well done
Her waist was 26 inches. That’s not “tiny” that’s just slim, especially considering she was so short. It’s actually pretty average proportionally.
Yeah at that age at 5'7" I was a 22inch waist, and that is fairly normal for some of that age at a healthy weight. We are just so used to most people being over weight that the idea of healthy size seem strange.
Actually 22 inches is 10 inches under weight for anyone who is 5'7 at any adult age. I hope you managed to get your weight up to a healthy level for whatever age you are now.
@@SabethRavenwing You are honestly underweight. I am only 5'4 but a healthy waist for me is around 24-26.
@@nicapika7970 We likely have different size frames and carry weight differently . Even now in my mid 30's and my weight averaging around 130 (BMI of 20ish) my waist is normally 25 inchs and maxes around 26. I just don't carry weight there and have a very fine bone frame.
@@niamhocallaghan1945 My BMI at the time was good, and now it is 20. My frame is so tiny that if I had a 32 inch waist I would be quite over weight, that would make my waist bigger then my rib cage. Heck now I'm 130 with a 25 inch waist BMI 20 and that is right for my frame. I'm tall with thin bones, if I start packing on weight I'm going to have joints problems. I've seen enough folks in my family do that and need knee and hip replacements.
I find it funny that people think that a 69cm waist is small because I just measured myself and I have a 65cm waist. The waist probably looks small because of the skirt being so big making the waist look smaller than it is (basically an illusion).
Christine Keane weird flex but ok
@@sairbear444 I was just saying the majority of the comments are saying how small the waist is, and that she probably wore corsets to get that "unnatural" measurement (which she probably did during that time period). I just wanted to say that it is possible to naturally have that measurement. I also did say that the waist probably looks smaller than it is because of the skirt being so big (during that time period they wanted to make the waist appear as small as possible with corsets and big skirts). But ya I guess it is kinda weird looking back... 😂🤣
While your illusion point is correct, 69cm is still a small waist. It would equate to a modern UK dress size of an 8 or 10. The average dress size for a woman in the UK at the moment is a 16, so it's fair to say 69cm is far below average.
@christine, nice stealth boast!
I read many comments about how 69cm isnt a small waist especially for a short woman like queen Victoria. People forget though that you cannot apply the same proprotion rules to people at the extremes of height. Short people actually tend to have a sizeable waistline that doesn't change a lot even when they lose weight (i am not talking here about obese individuals, just average) due to the fact that the distance between the last ribs and the pelvic bones is practically non-existent. That's why very frequently the stars of Hollywood's Golden Era would have their last ribs surgically removed - to make their waists smaller.
Yes, Queen Elizabeth II is also very short.
I can’t get over the handling of this piece without conservators gloves.
Emily Dill Gloves aren’t always necessary or helpful when dealing with ageing artefacts; in fact, the can be quite dangerous, particularly where grip on a fragile item is concerned. Clean, dry and careful hands are usually enough to hold an item of this vintage.
Me too....wow
@@ColliCub exactly my thoughts! the lack of awareness of how delicate we're being is far more dangerous than some natural oils.
It’s interesting to note that the petticoat was apparently stable enough to be *washed*, in this particular video! - ruclips.net/video/DTD_SLxG2yA/видео.html
these people are professionals. They know when and when not to handle certain items with gloves or without. Gloves are not always necessary, clean hands can be fine in this case.
It looks almost new... wow
I love these old clothes
perfect and thank you for what you do
I wish I could see every detail of the garment, inside and out, inspect the seams, the pleats, the lot. Every detail would be a delight.
the pleats are very well made cartidge pleats, you can find videos about it, i´m sure.
Queen Victoria was a shawty.
I don't know why but I love it and want one exactly the same, well suited to me of course...
It would make a pretty nightgown... or if I had some fancy olden day outfits to go with it... would be so much fun to dress up in Victorian era costume, just to see how you would look and how it feels...
I'm actuallly curious & wondering now all that she did wear - all the undergarments beneath her wedding dress... and in general, how same or different it would be from other people (ladies) of that time... whether royalty meant every luxury even for everyday wear, like this specially made "gift" or regular common place...
and sewing done by machines yet or all by hand only??
Such a tiny waist, just lovley!!! Love the petticoat
Why are they touching it with bare hands?
Faylyn Hillier Because sometimes wearing gloves can actually be bad for vintage objects sometimes gloves doesn’t give enough of a firm grip. Also if this petticoat was able to get washed ruclips.net/video/DTD_SLxG2yA/видео.html then it is able to handled with barehands. We should only wear gloves when an object has become so old that the oils in our hands has become destructive.
Would not risk anything by not having the hands of so called professional curators handling such without gloves .
Would rather be safe then sorry .
Highly doubt that hands are washed as frequently as others tend to claim that they are being .
Wanda Bailey it can be more damaging, as mentioned above. Unless we’re handling metals, gilding, or anything incredibly delicate, it can be better not to. And it can provide incredibly opportunities - I’ve held a letter from Queen Victoria (with clean, dry, bare hands) and have been lucky enough to even place a (gentle) finger on her signature!
I'm around the same height as her!. If she was around less than 5 feet... and Queen... then I can do anything! Like if you are of the same height as her, close to, or have a friend who's like this
I'm surprised that the staff is not wearing gloves when handling the petticoat.
Thank you❤️❤️❤️
69cm waist is not tiny. It's actually quite average. For example, a runway model's waist is usually 60-63cm. Victoria's waist just appears tiny probably because of the volume of her skirt.
How tall was she?! That's looks like it was made for a pre-pubescent girl.
She was barely 1.6m tall.
1.52 cm I believe
@@GrandDuchessT yeah I think you're right
She was basically 1.52 m lol and I can't even laugh about it because that is my own height.
@@ayshazaheen3402 I feel you. It's exactly also my height. As an adult woman in our times it's a struggle to find clothes and shoes....
Err 69cm waist isn't tiny though? That's pretty normal ._.
I have a skirt that requires a 60cm waist even.
It would equate to a modern UK dress size of an 8 or 10. The average dress size for a woman in the UK at the moment is a 16, so it's fair to say 69cm is far below average.
5 layers of what looks like crinoline???? Did these women not sweat? I'd hate to have to wear that through menopause heat flashes!
Carla Harris 😂👍🏻
This may sound strange, but that cloth is very comfortable to wear and lets air in and out really well. You're cooler in all those skirts than in a pair of jeans and a Polyester t-shirt.
I'm really surprised that in these videos they are touching the garments with their bare hands. Do they use any special kind of soap to clean their hands?
They will always wash their hands before handling items. Often it can be more damaging, as mentioned before. Unless we’re handling metals, gilding, or anything incredibly delicate, it can be better not to. And it can provide incredibly opportunities - I’ve held a letter from Queen Victoria (with clean, dry, bare hands) and have been lucky enough to even place a (gentle) finger on her signature!
It seems I would have a better time finding clothes that fit during this era rather than the current era of ready wear fashion. From my shoe size to my waist to hip ratio, as well as my height, clothing is a hassle to find as well as make on a busy schedule.
I ha no idea just how petite she was!
It's like a child's petticoat
How did they clean these clothes?? Must of had more than one or two on hand. So small compared to people this day..
Yes, they would _have_ had more than one or two and they would have been busy doing laundry with a copper and a dolly. Check out some laundry videos, it’s eye opening how hard wash day used to be pre automatic washing machines, tumble driers, stain removers, laundry detergents, etc.
Preciosa sencillez,
I draw🤗🎄
I think it's really tiny because she probably wore this as a teenager
Why would you not wear gloves when handling?
I didn’t realize how petite she was.
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Awwww sweet. 🙂
Oh great but i would remove the "arms" So you can also look into the sleeves ;)
....um 69 centimeters is a bit over 27 inches and for someone under 5 feet tall that is not a tiny waist. its actually not a tiny waist at all. im curious what mannequins they normally use if the waist is larger than 27 inches. the standard mannequin has a 32-34 inch bust, 24-26 inch waist and 32-34 inch hips (your average cat walk model measurements)...... ....i would say someone under 5 feet tall and of a healthy weight nowadays has a waist size of about 22-24 inches. she was rich, and all the rich people had larger waists than the average person who was not always quaranteed food. like you people have got to think in proportion. what in the world would make some one think 69 cm was a tiny waist for someone who is under 5 feet talk.
Her dress was probably when she was younger
Everyone: "She had such a tiny waist!!!!"
Me who is 5 inches taller with a 7 cm smaller waist: *??????????????????????????????????????????*
Does Queen Victoria haunt in that underdress... Boooo
My my, how small you where your Majesty!
Queen Victoria smile in English hell
Wow. She was the same size as a child.
it's my size lol
She is short like me .
Tiny little spitfire🔥Her grandson started ww1.
So incredibly small.
I’m surprised they don’t have to use gloves. Oils from the skin can damage textiles in the long-term.
Often it can be more damaging, as mentioned before. Unless we’re handling metals, gilding, or anything incredibly delicate, it can be better not to. And it can provide incredibly opportunities - I’ve held a letter from Queen Victoria (with clean, dry, bare hands) and have been lucky enough to even place a (gentle) finger on her signature!
Her waist is about 27" ... lord I felt attacked when she said tiny because my waist is 25" I--
Oh please just be grateful that you are blessed w such a small size. She wasn't being rude, just making an observation. Queen Victoria was just a petite woman and although it's not unheard of, still fairly rare in the Western world. Especially in the states.
“Oh please” since you’re so quick to assume I was being serious, let’s nip that in the bud, shall we? I’m well aware she was petite, & it doesn’t take an idiot to see the lady wasn’t being rude. I simply made a comment because my waist is smaller than hers, & I was thinking my! If she was tiny, I wonder what I would be?
But be pressed for no reason. Have a blessed day though. 😊
Wow. She definitely looked like a child by the size of that dress.
I’m surprised the restorer used her bare hands to handle the garment.
I've heard other dress historians explain it this way... Wearing any sort of glove limits your hands ability to feel. You can't tell if you're causing any damage to the fibers, stitches, or textiles. Therefore, freshly washed and groomed hands (no hangnails etc) are much better for preserving the fabric.
This is a total fake of Victoria petty coat🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
She must’ve been so tiny
So incredibly tiny
Is it made of real human skin?
She was the size of a child.
Victoria was not very attractive.
Donnas Oodles of Poodles Nope she was rather homely😂
Lol!
Am I the only one concerned that they aren't wearing gloves? The oils on their hands can ruin the petticoat.
Victoria was never that skinny, sounds like a con, whom dose it really belong to. G
Look at pictures of her around the time she was married. Yes, she was that size.
Actually she was....
Yes she was that tiny in her youth. She only got big later in life after she gave birth to 9 children.
@@JMorg110 That and the fact that her habit of overeating skyrocketed after Albert's death.
And the tiny waist is due to the cruel, organ crushing fashion of the time, a contraption invented in hell: the corset.