Here is why I swapped basically everything in my PC build - Lian Li, MSI and NZXT upgrades
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- I've recently decided to swap a bunch of stuff in my PC build to deal with a number of issues I've been having. My cooler was running loud, my CPU too hot, my audio kept being weird and my PC kept blue screening too. So these are the drastic measures I took to sort it.
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Specs of the original build: (note this includes affiliate links that earn me a commission at no extra cost to you)
Motherboard - Asus ROG Strix Z790 A Gaming WIFI 2
( • Asus ROG Strix Z790 A ... )
CPU - Intel Core i9-14900K ( • Intel CPU too hot? Try... )
Case - Lian Li Dynamic Evo XL - • Lian Li Dynamic Evo XL...
Fans - Lian Li SL-INF 140 • Lian Li SL-INF 140 fan...
And Lian Li SL-INF fans ( • How to connect Lian Li... ) (120mm)
CPU cooler - Lian Li Galahad 2 LCD • Lian Li Galahad 2 LCD ...
RAM - Corsair Dominator Titanium 32GB 72000MT/s go.corsair.com/baya19
NVMEs - Crucial T700 (Two 2TB • How to install and tes... )
Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB( • How to install Crucial... )
Crucial P3 Plus 2TB ( • How to install Crucial... )
PSU - Corsair HX1500i PSU ( • Corsair HX1500i instal... )
GPU - Asus ROG Strix RTX 4090 OC White Edition (amzn.to/3tr1nzc)
RGB - Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 ( • Lian Li Strimer Plus V... )
RGB GPU - 600Watt Strimer ( • Lian Li Strimer V2 Plu... )
Specs of the new build: (note this includes affiliate links that earn me a commission at no extra cost to you)
Motherboard - MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI amzn.to/43Q3iLM
CPU - Intel Core i9-14900K ( • Intel CPU too hot? Try... )
Thermal Right contact frame - amzn.to/3xukXfU
Case - Lian Li Dynamic Evo XL - • Lian Li Dynamic Evo XL...
Fans - Lian Li SL-INF 140 • Lian Li SL-INF 140 fan...
And Lian Li SL-INF fans ( • How to connect Lian Li... ) (120mm)
And Lian Li SL-INF 140 reverse blade • Lian Li SL Infinity 14...
CPU cooler - NZXT Kraken Elite 360 • NZXT Kraken 280 Elite ...
RAM - Corsair Dominator Titanium 32GB 72000MT/s go.corsair.com/baya19
NVMEs - Crucial T700 (Two 2TB • How to install and tes... )
Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB( • How to install Crucial... )
Crucial P3 Plus 2TB ( • How to install Crucial... )
PSU - Corsair RMX shift RM1000x • Corsair RMX shift PSU ...
GPU - Asus ROG Strix RTX 4090 OC White Edition (amzn.to/3tr1nzc)
RGB - Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 ( • Lian Li Strimer Plus V... )
RGB GPU - 600Watt Strimer ( • Lian Li Strimer V2 Plu... )
Other things:
ThermalGrizzly Carbonaut www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/ca...
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Specs of the new build: (note this includes affiliate links that earn me a commission at no extra cost to you)
Motherboard - MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI amzn.to/43Q3iLM
CPU - Intel Core i9-14900K (ruclips.net/video/jP7nERdD-Gk/видео.html)
Thermal Right contact frame - amzn.to/3xukXfU
Case - Lian Li Dynamic Evo XL - ruclips.net/video/RjUwRy6FOs8/видео.html
Fans - Lian Li SL-INF 140 ruclips.net/video/6HUpX6v1qTE/видео.html
And Lian Li SL-INF fans (ruclips.net/video/W_ApiN_Wueg/видео.html) (120mm)
And Lian Li SL-INF 140 reverse blade ruclips.net/video/ZdoCrYgZyE8/видео.html
CPU cooler - NZXT Kraken Elite 360 ruclips.net/video/G5r3SG3ACwE/видео.html
RAM - Corsair Dominator Titanium 32GB 72000MT/s go.corsair.com/baya19
NVMEs - Crucial T700 (Two 2TB ruclips.net/video/B08Cv8Pb9nI/видео.html)
Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB(ruclips.net/video/YjOyCB7Vqjw/видео.html)
Crucial P3 Plus 2TB (ruclips.net/video/YPSnnKGYl54/видео.html)
PSU - Corsair RMX shift RM1000x ruclips.net/video/yafbKAuyntw/видео.html
GPU - Asus ROG Strix RTX 4090 OC White Edition (amzn.to/3tr1nzc)
RGB - Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 (ruclips.net/video/OTnzx75cw3s/видео.html)
RGB GPU - 600Watt Strimer (ruclips.net/video/SjOyo2H69vw/видео.html)
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Great news! Definitely sounds like a motherboard issue. I completed my build 2 months ago or so and used your channel for some ideas. I went with a MSI motherboard as they have never failed me in any of my previous builds. I think it was your channel that introduced me to the Lian Li brand and in particular the Dynamic Evo XL. Thankfully I haven't had any issues thus far except for one set of connected Lian Li UNI TL LCD fans randomly stop spinning. They work for the most part but occasionally one or more in that connected set would stop spinning. The screen would remain functioning but the fan would stop. Checking the software, that group would not be showing up. A restart of the system would resolve it. I haven't really taken the time to troubleshoot it but hopefully in the near future.
Hey man, just curious do you know what group your LCD fans are plugged into on the controller? Reason im asking is that Lian Li has said (allegedly) that you should AVOID the Group #1 slot for connecting your LCD fans. I was having an issue where only two showed up in L Connect 3, with 1 LCD screen not functioning properly, and I swapped it to group 4 and now they work perfectly, just figured id throw this your way!
Great looking build!
Thanks!
Your machine looks quite nice with the black and white colour scheme. I went for the same look when i built mine and im happy with it.
Thanks!
Likewise in my build. I had a full RGB build till I had to RMA my dead EK 360 AIO. Twice.
Decided it was time to check out the Arctic LF2 360 as a friend used one too for a couple months and didn't encounter any issue. Swapped out the fans to the Lian Li P28s and they're 🤌🏻.
I got the MSI Tomahawk MB in January, I run a AMD 7600 and a 7600 XT graphics system , I liked the MSI Board as soon as I saw it, the Bios is is straight forward and pretty obvious, I nearly bought the Carbon but really couldn't justify it, the problem of the Intel CPU running hot put me off straight away as I wanted to use a Phantom Spirit air cooler, its works extremely well and cost a ridiculously low price compared to an AIO. Intermittent faults are terrible to find, I know I did for a living for 45 years, when you change every thing but the paint and it still does it you know your in trouble, glad you sorted it.
I would suggest that anyone swapping the contact frame does so with the cpu in place to protect the motherboard pins in case you drop anything onto them.
I switched form Asus to MSI years ago for the same stability issues and haven't looked back since. MSI rocks !! Nice build. 😎
Great choice on the MSI Z790 Carbon motherboard, it's what I use in my main system. I run my 13900k nice & cool with an -0.1V adaptive offset.
I stopped buying Asus gear last year for a number of reasons, especially their appalling treatment of their customers, with warranty issues.
I just made my first pc with an asrock x670 taichi mobo and a 7800x3d with -30 offset. Been running amazing and at like 40-50 degrees with an arctic liquid freezer iii 420mm aio. Did a full black/rgb (set to red) looks nice in the lian li o11d evo xl with 6 140mm reverse fans and a single 120mm in the back. The aio had its own and cba to spend more on 3 lian li fans than the whole aio itself
I just built a 14900KS-based system so I'm familiar with some of the troubles. I went immediately from the get-go, with a TG contact frame, KPX paste, and I'm using the Asus Ryujin AIO, Asus Maximus Formula, and Kingston Fury 6000MT/S ram. Also went with the LianLi fans (your guide was excellent by the way) I had gotten my CPU stable in Cinebench and 3D Mark Port Royal at 6.1GhZ all core with a -.0350 V offset undervolt, but would crash or bluescreen in all games the instant the workloads were applied. Leads me to believe that the real test of stability is games such as BF2042, COD, and StarCitizen, not the actual benchmarks that are supposed to be stress testing. I ended up with stable 5.9 all-core with a very mild undervolt of -0.0025 and all Intel standards enforced, but slightly modified. (420A max is Intel Standard. Asus default setting is over 4000A and I ended at 430Amp, 350Watt Short and long duration) Temps always below 70 and I have very low fan curves. I'm happy so far.
I'm using a 14900k + Artic Liquid Freezer II 420 (with 6 fans on the radiator) + thermal Grizzly contact frame + AsRock Nova Wifi + 2 x 16gb - Gskill Trident Z5 7200. In 4 months i had no problems. This setup can hold this CPU under cinebench 24 with all power limits unlocked under 90 degrees Celsius.
No blue screens or a problems at all. Asus now is much more marketing than quality. Thanks for the video. Nice Looking build.
@@-Highlander-42 AsRock Nova Wifi
I agree with you I have the asrock nova wi fi with a 14700k it's an amazing motherboard
Which case is that and where did you manage to fit the push pull in?
I've got a Meshify 2 XL and thought pah there's so much space in the top. It'll fit easil...oh ooops. 8cm are not enough for push pull with the P14 fans.
@@SlurP667 Lian Li 011d EVO XL.
I got some little problem to insert the radiator on the side but finally everything worked well.
@@Bulzack Thanks :( I saw a video about the push pull idea but he didn't mention what case he used. My mind kept going to using the rad as an exhaust option, then wondered where it might actually fit because damn that boy's chunky.
I’d be very interested to hear how much, if any, difference having a push/pull case fan configuration on your AIO liquid cooler makes compared to just one set of fans on it.
Perhaps you’d consider making a video specifically talking about this topic?
Thank you for your consideration.
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no artificial loud intro and whatever effects begging for likes or "hit the sub-button"-stuff. feels refreshing, more natural.
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Adrian, I’d be interested to see a video on the temperature differences of using a Thermal Grizzly - Carbonaut thermal pad in place of thermal paste in your main PC build if you’re able to make a video covering that topic, please. Didn’t even know this was a thing until you mentioned it in your latest video uploaded today. 👍🏻
Thank you.
Why carbonaut instead of kryosheet? Is the carbonaut electrically conductive like the kryosheet?
@@HanmaHeiro kryosheet is the newer much better version of the carbonaut with graphene infused
@@mainsource8030 Hence my question, why carbonaut. I use Kryosheet on my desktop
Possible related reading - videocardz.com/newz/asus-adds-intel-baseline-profile-to-its-z790-motherboards-amid-core-i9-stability-issues
I have an almost identical rig inc Case. Except with an Asus Maximus Formula Z790, 2x32GB DDR5 Corsair Titanium's 6600Mhz and a TG contact frame. I agree that Lian Li Galahad II LCD does make a annoying whirring sound which i also own. It's because you need to custom a fan curve otherwise due to the CPU constantly going up and down the Pump was default scaling from 30c to 50c all the time. Hence the up down whirring sound which was very noticeable at idle on the desktop.
Similar situation as me. My build is 7800x3d with strix B650e-e and this is also my first custom water cooling. This is probably the worst case as I constanty draining my loop and I accidently burnt my 4090 even when I had not figured out what is reason I kept getting blue screen. Not only that, my expensive optical hdmi cable and led control hub burnt (8k polling dongle of mice was getting werid). I fixed it all now by claiming new parts with warranty except my 4090. PSU, ram, cpu, ssd and MB(twice). From my perspective, the main reason could be the motherboard production issue. The led control and voltage is weird and psu will provide more power if there are more led devices connect to the MB. I did get electrical shock from the case. The time I get the second MB throught warranty, the bios stays as 2413. It may solve the issue but I recommend turn off led until it is stable. (try using argb split cable and touch the pin from the other side, you might feel painful electrical shock if you do not put your case on the ground)
I think the Black motherboard looks great, You did great
Thanks.
The coil whine is real on the G2 LCD.
I just completed my Lian Li build in the O11D Evo RGB. Your guide was so amazing walkthrough.
Only issue I’m having atm is trying to get the LCD to run off a 9pin USB 2.0 hub
Find any solutions for the whine?
@@RyanBenavides925 I just installed it the other day, so nothing yet I’ll let you know
@@FriendlieGhost any update on that? is it every unit or only bad ones?
I always enjoy your videos - very informative. I currently build an R9 7950X3D, RTX4090, Kraken Z73, Asus Gaming Z690, Lian Li UniFan SL120, G.Skill NeoRGB specced system inside Lian Li O11D XL case. I'm needing advice how to control all the RGB's on all these ? I have seen similar system you built in past, everything has one nice blue color. Which software you use please ? I am very reluctant to try Armory Crate due to all the bloatware coming with it. I hear of Signal RGB as a possible way to control all RGB ? I interested in your thoughts/advice on which software is best for this setup. I hope you can do video on Signal RGB sometime.
a very nice setup mate.
Thank you kindly
I got the Galahad LCD myself a couple weeks ago and it is absolutely louder than my previous Fractal design AIO.
i7-13700K Idles between 40-50c and sometimes jumps to 60c.
The pump is absolutely noticeable at any speed above 2200 Rpm.
Asked Lian-Li support about it and they just confirmed that the pump is indeed loud.
I've got the galahad lcd cooler and I'm running 13700k and my idles at between 30 to 32. And on load. Max 55 to 60 and temps are lower in winter months aswel
@@viper_mega_rigs Weird. At the lowest I’ve dropped down to mid 30s but then jumped right back up to 45-50.
During load I may get to somewhere between 60-70 at most. So it seems to be doing okay in that regard at least. Fluid temp is stable at around 40-45 during load.
Temp in the room is in the low 20s during all of this by the way.
Question, have you tried a lower rpm? lian li defaulted to above the normal rpm for acetek 8th gen pumps something like 3600 vs 2600 max, probably as a precaution for i9's. See below text off their Reddit, but I'd try that first and then do an RMA as they had a faulty early batch they can identify by serial no :
Our latest Galahad II LCD uses Asetek's 8th Gen pump, which has its maximum speed locked at 2600RPM. However, to meet the ever increasing need of heat dissipation for CPUs, we decided to unlock the pump's maximum speed to 3600RPM.
We suggest you to use L-Connect 3 set the fix real-time pump speed or set PWM curve profiles to find the right balance between noise and performance. 60% of 3600RPM is around 2200RPM, which puts you at a good spot for noise and performance too.
@@DeadManInBlack I have yes. That’s why I mentioned the 2200rpm setting in my comment. I’ve set it down to 2000 and the pump runs at that speed at all times. No noticeable sound at that point and it keeps my i7-13700k at a steady temp during load.
@@95Karlsson apologies, I'll probably go for the krazen elite 360 then.
I've messed all my argb fans up, dunno what's connected to what, leds aren't lighting up, dunno how to fix em lolol. Ty for the vid PP 😂
Nice build looks great 😀
Thanks 😁
Nice build looks great Do you think de lidding your i9 would have helped but changing morherboards is probably easier and changing the pump what do you think
Yo man, hope you see this. But I love the content you make and keep up the grind! Could you do some videos on the Hyte Y60??
I've got the Y60, so that'll be happening soon.
Sir I did my latest build bassed off your Lian Li 10 fan setup, (3 on top, 1 rear, 3 Rev side and 3 rev bottom) I used the i7-14700kf CPU, It does run a little hot during gaming.
How hot? ruclips.net/video/sVEXd-Wp8FY/видео.html
Love your videos. My build (parts on their way) starts next week and has been influenced by a lot of your work (I'll be building in an o11d evo xl). I ordered a Liquid Suprim 4090 and the Galahad 360 infinity cooler (probably would have been the Kraken if I had seen your video a couple days ago). I was thinking about having the 4090 radiator installed in the rear as exhaust, the Galahad radiator at the top as exhaust and then having 3 140mm infinitys reversed for the side intake and 3 140mm infinitys reversed as a bottom intake. I would be swapping out the fans on the liquid suprim 4090 for infinity fans as well. Does this sound like a good way to go? Any suggestions that I might want to think about?
One possibility for your setup: If your reversed infinity fans from the bottom are still a bit louder you may be able to run them slightly slower to offset that, without impacting temperatures. In one video I watched, it was reported that, given sufficient inflow from the side, the bottom intake fans were not significantly impacting temperatures (it could be that your setup is different though).
13900k and 14900k has problems running UE games. There is a mass return of the said chips in South Korea due to frequent BSOD, instability and crashing issues. It's an issue where in Intel is currently looking into it. Some reviewers said that probably its due to the high voltages causing more heat and degradation. Some recommended to under volt or lower the clock speed by about 200mhz
I don't think that's my issue though as my system is brilliantly stable now I've swapped to the MSI board :) But I have seen the news about i9s.
I’ve got a Ryzen 9 CPU love the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 rev 4 with the offset brackets and Arctic MX-6 thermal paste the CPU idles at 26c and never ever goes over 65c.
I have the same mobo. Could you possibly go over some of the BIOS settings you have used? I've had some issues with cpu temps with the default settings in bios. Had to select "box cooler" setting in order to get them back in line. I also tried lowering the lite load mode because it was set to mode 10 by default. Got it down to mode 8 now and still stable. better temps but losing performance because I'm down to intel limits rather than unlimited power settings that come with setting "water cooler" option.
The MSI Z790 EDGE White was a great option
Thats what I went with for my O11 Vision, does look good with a MSI 4080 Gaming X
I really like this video. Now that you have the NZXT Kraken Elite 360 and the Lian Lin SL120, is there one control for the CPU head temp/lights and one for the Lian Lin lights or do they both sink up in one place?
Thank you my friend.
Thanks for watching!
a contact frame is an instant benefit.
I had the Asus ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WIFI II. You can easily disable the AI Overclock from the main screen of the BIOS. It's also not enabled by default.
I've since learnt the issues aren't just AI ruclips.net/video/iiS04RcswHA/видео.html
This video literally voiced my biggest fear. Stability issues!
I am due for a PC upgrade because my old machine can't keep up with these Unreal 5 games. So I've been shopping around for what I want to do for upgrades and MAN! So many freaking brands, choices, cases. Need to keep in mind airflow, cooling, compatibility of components with the case, with the motherboard, UGH!
My current PC is the most stable PC I've ever built. In the 8 years that I've owned my PC, I've only crashed a total of 5 times. That's pretty freaking amazing!
So now that I need to upgrade I am utterly petrified of buying the wrong components and then having to deal with returns and refunds and extensive amounts of troubleshooting. Luckily your videos do help assuage some of those fears but I have to admit to still being gunshy at pulling the trigger. Right now my goal is to upgrade the whole shebang, but I'm doing case/mobo/RAM/ and CPU. My current machine does AIO liquid cooling for GPU and CPU, so I'm hoping to keep that setup into the future build. But I have to admit I would be very upset if I build it wrong and create an unstable PC.
Love to see the troubleshooting steps and the behind the scenes action, thank you.
I’m building a pc but buy but at the moment, last computer I built was in 2007/8.
I used an online ‘custom pc building’ company to configure my computer to make sure all the parts worked together. Once I found the combination that wanted that will work, I then checked reviews on RUclips to make sure that those parts where decent, then started to buy parts.
i quit Asus motherboards 24 years ago lol why cause the instability to hold right the hardware and software , plus customer service sucks , ever since switching to MSI & Aorus Gigabyte never had a issue ever since , i have a new rig now with the I9 14900 KF CPU with the Aourus Master X board and 128gb of ram with 9 lian li sl infinity fans and all is alice in wonder land no blue screens no crashes on any software's and everything runs so smooth , just waiting on the arrival of my lian li Galahad II trinity 360 performance AIO for coldish purposes lol , keep up the good work Prawn with this wonderful videos , cause o u i bought the Lian Li evo xl Case which is the best i had ever try as a case for PC assembly
I've had people say the opposite, it's amazing how many different opinions there are eh :)
(someone was saying avoid MSI like the plague, but I've never had problems).
@@TheProvokedPrawn lol yea that's the beautiful thing of been human beings lol Keep up the good work cheers
I'm still waiting on the Provoked Prawn audio books
Greetings and thanks for the video! I was in the same situation for a few weeks now and after getting tired of constant crashes and reboots I ended up replacing my motherboard... I had a nice MSI Edge white ITX board and now I am using a black ROG one. I replaced many cables with white ones, even monitor and speakers... all white! Asus needs some white ITX mobos on their extensive ROG line! Should I try one of those Alli Express ones? ;) I and my 10 grandkids love your builds, Lian Li-Rainbow-White :)
10 grandkids. Wow.
There’s a bunch of news articles coming out about current i9s being very unstable and crashing for lots of people. I returned 2 i9s, downgraded to an i7 and currently have no problems.
Mine is fine now 🤷🏼♂️
I was having the same random issues and swapped from Asus to a Gigabyte board and no more issues since.
👍🏼
I can confirm that some times i have the same issue with the headphones with that same motherboard. so it is a motherboard issue. but it only happens sporadically and you can fix by simply moving the headphones to a different usb port.
Additionally, you can actually undervolt with XTU with that same motherboard. XTU will give the impression that it will not allow the xtu to be automatically loaded , but in truth it is.
That said the low and mid grade MSI motherboard are actually hotter than low and mid grade asus assuming you use similar bios settings. Asus may run hotter if you do not change disable the automated stuff that asus does , but once you do, asus actually runs cooler.
As such if you are noticing a difference of temperature it is because you have more fans and that AIO is actually superior when it comes to handling the i9- have one myself that also replaced the galahad i could notice the difference from day 1.
Interesting
20:40 the fix is tho manually turn down the boost freq and vcore by 100mhz and 0.05v
I’m running a strix z790 gaming wifi 2, contact frame, 13900k, 32 gigs renegade fury DDR5 7200 (stable at 6600) ROG Ryujin 2 aio 360. 1 tb nvme, 8tb ssd for storage. Strix 4090. Since I built it, I’ve had periodic blue screens when gaming and random desktop gaming crashing. UE games especially have been extremely buggy. Sometimes refusing to even load. The error I kept getting is “out of vram”. Tried everything I could think of to fix it. All scans including mem test all passed. Went into bios and turned off AI overclock and haven’t had any issues yet. It’s only been a few days though. My temps even with heavy gaming never go over 65 Celsius. Idle temp is about 30 all confirmed by CPUid hwm.
Msi is the only brand I trust for motherboards now. I’ve had too many issues with Asus and gigabyte boards have coil whine.
Yes ! I'm not the only one who has had that issue. my system seems to do that for no reason. I think mine is a conflict but for the life of me I can't figure it out. I have found that if I turn off AI Overclocking in bios I am able to run more consistently
that's the drama with computers. Could be a million different things. Driver issues, Windows updates, bent CPU pins, bad hard drives, etc, etc. Frustrating.
@@TheProvokedPrawn funny enough I got the same board from MSI about 3 months ago to replace my Asus Z790 hero
I was running the nzxt z73 kraken before this one. And yes the pumps a little noise at first. But after while. I can not hear it. Also im running a 13700k my idle temps are between 30 and 32 and between 48 to 55 on load and them temps are the same as when i was running the kraken. Z73 cooler
I've heard quite a few people complain about lian li pump noise with this one. Bit nervous as I was thinking of going for that aio for my 2nd ever build.
Is it a known issue?
Im having problems with my strix z790 A 2 motherboard. For some reason everytime i turn the PSU off and back on, the MB refuses to turn on. If i just turn off my system normally, it will come back on normally. But if i turn off the PSU, i have to unplug the PSU from the wall for a good hour or two, then plug it back in.. only then my MB will gladly power on with no issues. I think the latest bios update is having problems that need to be addressed
Great video. Me too problems 😅, I watched your videos to help me with my first build.
I got used everything (Amazon like new): CPU (14900k): mood Msi Tomahawk z790 ddr5 and One Stick 32ddr5. So Red led ez debug CPU in the mobod😢. After 2 days couldn't figure out the problem.
Sent the mobod back.
Used 14900k (485€) vs new 13900k (540€) vs used 13900k (515€)?
Used msi Mag tomahawk 790 ddr5(205€).
Any advice?
P.s. I just need a good cpu for now, so I don't have GPU, soon I will get the second ram stick.and the GPU
Just an update Asus has since then pushed a new bios update forgotten z790 boards were a new menu is available where the user can select intel default recommended settings.
It's incredible the level of frustration in the p.c industry with sub par quality. I'm a system builder and the amount of double and triple handling, ive done since " the worldwide thing " is absurd. I genuinely feel the q.c went down because of demand, but has continued with the same q.c even though the demand is substantially lower. Keeping profits high and resellers and small business, left with the consequences.
Interesting insights
Love your videos. Can you, or anyone else recommend a stress test/bench that’s free and reliable
Cinebench 24 for CPU and Heaven Benchmark for GPU. Intel's XTU also has a stress testing tool.
@@TheProvokedPrawncheers! If you have time can I ask you this and what’s your thoughts.
Using B650e e, 7950x, 32gb 6400mhz dominator ram.
Bios and windows says 4500mhz. Using docp 1 crashes, entering the ram specs manual doesn’t even boot up.
Leaving everything to auto but setting to 6000mhz seems stable and no crashes.
Why do you think this is? I checked prior to buying components that they are compatible, I wouldn’t have spent the extra money on the faster ram if I can’t run it at the at speed 😂
I have the same asus board and 14900kf, and also started having a lot of bsod. I cant even fresh install windows. Changed RAM, new NVME, same issues. Not even just one bsod, but a variety of them. Im wondering if its the issue with the CPU. Hearing the mobo seems to be the issue is encouraging. i couldnt get 4 ram sticks to run in xmp anyway. i hate chasing gremlins. great video
I have a feeling it's the Asus overclocking and power limit settings
@@TheProvokedPrawn it may well be. jayztwocents did a video recently that touched on how these settings are "killing" PCs and i agree with him that overclocking at all isnt really needed. Have you tried scaling back any settings or did you just give up? I hate throwing in the towel but im not experienced with over or underclocking
I was really close to going intel. I decided to go with 7800x3d with a B650 Asus mb. It’s weird that am5 was having issues at launch now intel is the one having issues . My asus motherboard does weird stuff every once a while too. I think Asus mb have issue weather it’s amd or intel. I’m thinking about doing a rma on my b650 mb. Then selling it and going to a msj x670.
Hey Mr Prawn- love the content btw, so I am having my system upgraded to the 14900k with a new Dark Hero Asus mobo. I had thought that I would be able to undervolt it to reduce the temps using the Intel Extreme Utility, but one thing I picked up from this vid is that it might not work with Asus mobos- and I would have to do it from bios (which looks like a pain) is that correct?
Sadly yes, you will have to use the BIOS.
@@TheProvokedPrawn massive shame that- ahh well. Too late now I think, thanks mate
could I maybe use the utility to get the correct settings, not save it, jst write it down somewhere, then go into the bios and change it from what the utiliy says? Guessing that would be the best work arround
Hi. Better is AIO on the top of case.
No ruclips.net/video/qQcyYHGtArs/видео.html
I had the exact same issue with bluescreens on my rig with ROG MAXIMUS Z790 motherboard and at the end what was causing the issue was aura rgb lights on the motherboard. When I switched it off in bios I never had a bluescreen again.
Interesting
What does aura RGB light do? Does it effect your system's RGB if you turn it off
@@justinhawk835 Its just rgb light on the motherboard itself for the ROG logo. Since I turned that off months ago I never had a single issue. All other RGB in my PC still works fine (RGB fans, GPU etc.)
I have question can 850wats psu go with rx 7900 xtx with 1 Monitor
The cracking is a know issue, just don’t remember what the fix is.
Okay. I am changing my Galahad as well today. I was protecting it with all of my heart but it’s too problematic. getting an nzxt, refunding the lian li.
Yeah my PC was also bluescreening, turning off xmp has stopped it from happening
Interesting. Not ideal though because you're then losing performance. Have you tested your ram to see if you have a faulty stick? Tried bios updates? Etc.
check out the kryosheet , a graphene infused upgrade to the carbonaut that thermal grizzly released a few months ago
Nice. Thanks!
I know this might be just coincidental but I didn’t have any issues with bsod until I installed the Galahad 2 lcd 🤔
Very much a coincidence
What did you do with the equipment you took out? Am building an editing machine on a budget.
Reusing it in future once I get a chance to troubleshoot
beautiful setup however i was wondering would 10 lian li fans, a kraken 360 elite, 2 lian li strimers and the ASUS ROG STRIX Z790 A GAMING II and rm1000e corsair need an nzxt hub?
Yes. You'll have usb from the kraken, the two Strimers and the fans. So it'll be easiest
@@TheProvokedPrawnthanks so much I acc love u bro no diddy
Hi I’m really hoping you can help me, I’m in the process of building my pc, I’ve got the Lian Li 011D Evo XL and I’m wanting to put my RTX 4090 ROG Strix in there, but I’m running the case in reverse mode, essentially glass to the right of the case… is it possible for me to run my GPU vertically when running the case in reverse?
I'm afraid I don't know that's not something I tried. So I'd just be guessing
Wasnt aware of thermal pads till this.
They make life easier
I use the ASUS STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI and soon as I use AI Overclocking the bluescreen of dead is there :(
Unfortunate you had to switch AIO and Mobo. Hopefully it stabilises because a lot of people have been reporting issues with intel CPU lately.
It's been solid for a while now after the swap. I might have been able to fix with bios changes but there were so many different issues i just wanted to try hardware changes and combine things I had for videos at the same time.
Oh man that sucks, i have the 14900k already and was going to order the Asus Rog strix gaming z790 wifi ii. Should i look into another board??
I am not saying it's entirely the motherboard. Could have been bios settings, some sort of driver conflict or something else entirely. I expect that as other people have mentioned it might be down to the overclocking settings Asus has out of the box or it could be a something else. I'm not sure. The board was fine initially. 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheProvokedPrawn yeah thanks man, i went down the rabbit hole after watching your video and it seems it has a lot to do with the bios auto overclock which is ON by default for some insane reason with ASUS being the biggest offender, but far from being the only ones!
Just got the Galahad 2 lcd and man is this pump loud. I can’t even run it full speed without it being so loud.
Sorry to hear it. Mine wasn't mega loud, it was just a tad louder than I knew the Kraken was. Perhaps you have a faulty one. Have you contacted them about it
Having a system that isn't stable is so annoying, especially when you regard yourself somehwhat of a guru (I do atleast!). I have always looked at people raving about Asus motherboards and thought that I must be one of the unluckiest people, cos whenever I try one, things just don't work. The last one I tried was one of their top of the line x299 boards (Hero?) and all I had was issues. I ended up getting a EVGA x299 Dark and everything worked straight away. I doubt I will ever try Asus again, and with EVGA out of the loop I've gone to MSI.
Hi I have run into an issue with similar aio setup as yours. I am using kraken aio with infinity fans on it. The problem I am facing is my motherboard has 2 USB 2.0 headers and when I use the fan hub and kraken by splitter then I lose the ability to change rgb on Lian li fans but the LCD screen on aio works perfectly. My current mobo is strix-a wifi 2. The second USB 2.0 is occupied by strimer hub. What I have figured out so far is either change the mobo to one with more Usb 2.0 headers on it. Any additional suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I use this ruclips.net/video/d8vELbWWaCQ/видео.html
@@TheProvokedPrawn First of all thank you so much quick response. Secondly, would this hub work well with the Lian Li strimer and fan hub respectively ?
Sir You should have gone through jayztwo cents video, in that he have mentioned that asus motherboards comes with there own optimized settings in which voltage access is till 4000 watts we need to turn that off and use intel stock settings.. There is something wrong with the asus motherboards
Yeah you need to set the Long and Short Duration power to 253 watts, or your CPU will use a ton of power.
First thing I did with my new Asus motherboard, crazy how much power can be used
@TheProvokedPrawn Is it better to have the air through the radiator from the outside in, rather than hot air going from the inside out?
Based on my experience I prefer to intake ruclips.net/video/qQcyYHGtArs/видео.html
@@TheProvokedPrawn This is my situation. Air is expelled through the radiator at the top (3 fans ) and the rear fan and fresh air brought in through the front and side (2 x 4 fans). Shall I just reverse the fans on the radiator to intake? There are enough holes in the case at the rear to expell any excess hot air. Corsair H8000
I bought Strix Z690-A and 12700k. Took 2 years for ILM to bend the chip to contact failure and consecutive bluecreens. Swapped for contact frame....Fine again. Thanks intel🙄
Can't stand NZXT after having two of their coolers. I mean, they cool good, but thier RGB turnes yellow in no time ,aking it impossible to have white lights.
On the fans?
I have a question, I built my new system 2 weeks ago, Asus Z790E. intel i7-14700, 64gig ram ( Crucial Pro DDR5), Other than the CPU running slightly hot when gaming, Is it worth me adding another 64gig of ram, I also do music bass cover videos using DaVinci Resolve for my RUclips channel. Thank you
I wouldn't. 64GB is just fine for video editing in Resolve and 4 sticks of DDR5 is unstable in my experience.
@@TheProvokedPrawn Many thanks for the advice.
Did your i9 go from 38 degrees down to 26?? Please teach me senpai!! I have an i9 13900k, MSI z790pro WiFi and a Corsair lcd elite Aio and still can’t get lower than 38 with undervolting! I’ve tried so much other than changing the cooler
I didn't include the in-depth testing because it wouldn't be fair considering how many changes I made. But it's certainly significantly cooler. 38 isn't bad anyway, what is it under extreme load.
@@TheProvokedPrawn it hasn’t gone above 80 since the undervolting, adding a contact bracket and changing thermal paste, so I’m not too worried, I just wondered how you got it to 26 at idle, and how I could reduce mine by a few degrees more for longevity.
Asus has gone down hill the last few years. At least on motherboards. I love your build.
Did you swap out the fans that came with your cooler for Lian Li reverse fans?
Yes
@@TheProvokedPrawn Thank you ☺️
Been suffering from the same issue with an Asus z790 Formula.
Had a Gigabyte before and never gave any issues like that, honestly, wtf Asus is doing???
Have a look at this ruclips.net/video/iiS04RcswHA/видео.html
Sold my strix 4090 made too much noise bought a pny xlr8 4090 and it's been cool and quiet
I couldn't stand the coil whine on my rog strix as it made me very irritated. NOBODY should get a strix 4090, as you would be paying for that lovely coil whine
I recommend the gigabyte 4090. I never hear coil whine
@@FinkaBernardhow about fan noise?
But be bad luck
My Strix 4090 is silent doesn’t wine at all but I agree with you 10000% something that cost $2k there shouldn’t be any type of whine
I’ve never had an issue with a 4090 my issue has been the rog strix boards the same exact issues he’s had I’ve had 🤦🏻♂️ I knew I should have just went with an arous board again in my opinion those are the most stable boards I’ve ever had
@@FinkaBernardmy gigabyte gaming oc has some pretty bad coil whine and sadly i cant return it for a replacement because my build was delayed due to other parts.
So what was it in the end of the day was it the motherboard or was it the AIO?
I don't believe it was the cooling. I also can't say for certain what the issue was sadly. Could be as simple as bios settings I needed to change to deal with the i9 instability issues
@@TheProvokedPrawn ah I see that sucks that you had to swap out the whole motherboard but in your opinion which AiO looks better the Lian li or the kraken?
never to much RGB👍
Is your aio fans set to intake?
yes
Which pad size fits 14900k??
The Thermal grizzly 38x38x0
If Any BlueScreen In Your Asus Motherboard Please Uninstall And Remove "Asus Armoury Crate" Problem Solve. Armoury Crate Is Main Cause of the Bluescreen In Asus Motherboard
Havent you seen intel last 2 gen cpus have alot issues with pcie lanes. Its because cpus run hot and degrades fast causing it to fail and blue screen. I would avoid intel
YOUR TUBES WITH YOUR NEW AIO LOOK TO TIGHT, WOULD LOOK BETTER WITH THE AIO PUMP ORATION NOT AT THE BOTTOM BUT TO THE right
Please help I recently purchased the Lian li strimer plus v2 24 pin as I already had the strimer for my gpu! I had the strimer for my gpu hooked directly to my motherboard with the rgb wire it comes with so my mystic light was controlling the gpu strimer I wanted to be able to controller both strimers with L connect well I have everything hooked up now both strimers are flashing random colors I can’t control any of them no matter what I do I also have the uni fan hub controlling my fans along with a lian li AIO cooler with the lcd screen I’m not sure if this is to much if there’s a connectivity problem if I’m doing something wrong I’ve tried everything nothings working besides the way I had it before with just the gpu strimer connected to the motherboard
So you're now using the controller and you have that connected to sata power and to a usb header on your motherboard. Can you not see them in L Connect or do a firmware update lian-li.com/l-connect3/l3_update_manually/
@@TheProvokedPrawn yes I see them in LConnect but I can’t control them they are flashing random colors I updated the software tried redownloading it everything I had to get a usb splitter as I didn’t have enough headers but yes it’s connected to sata power as well
@@Ericraymond26 used that manual update tool Iinked?
@@TheProvokedPrawn yes I updated everything
@@Ericraymond26 I have two others suggestions. One is checking the switch on the Strimer controller is flicked the right way and the other is to use a powered usb hub instead of the splitters (like NZXT's USB hub)
So NVIDIA have just come out blaming Intel for game crashes that they were being blamed for, NVIDIA say the most effected cpus are the 13900k/14900k, as they are pushed to the limit pretty much out the box but any of the higher clocked cpus in the last generations could be affected. After 6 months maybe a year they start to degrade and get unstable at higher clock speeds, their solution is to slighty under clock I'm afraid. Hardware Unboxed covered this in their last QA video, the large range that the cpus can run so called in spec, especially when board manufacturers try to auto overclock using muticore enhancement etc.
The auto overclocking is certainly problematic
I can guarantee it was your ram sticks that had caused the blue screen.
No. I tried different ram and tested both lots.
You shouldn't be populating all your four RAM slots if you want better perfomance, it is better to have only 2 sticks (much less if they are 2 different kits ) and 4 only if you want a lot of ram like 128 or 192 gb and dont care about performance.
🤔 ok but I only have 2 sticks. Yes you might have spied one shot but that was ddr4 in the original Strix Gaming WiFi board. 😂
@@TheProvokedPrawn but in your video there are four ram sticks, or are those dummy kits ?
@@TheProvokedPrawn Oh i see that was the old build, didn't watched till the end my bad xD