Tyra CONFRONTS Model REFUSING To Get Into Bathtub

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  • @JessicaKobeissi
    @JessicaKobeissi  10 месяцев назад +29

    Watch part 1 here: ruclips.net/video/LYu6czb5C8U/видео.htmlsi=0ptqNB9pkSRLbS_5

    • @Elaan021
      @Elaan021 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not done watching, so you might address this, but does the photography save it enough for use in a book? Or does the styling still make it a no-go?

    • @menaceX666
      @menaceX666 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Elaan021I'd say some of them looked a hot mess like Alexandria. But Allison or Bianca looked good.
      Still for it to be used in a portfolio the models would need to be more in the focus. It looks more like an ad for the bike.
      Those pictures were 95% motorcycle and 5% models.
      Also I wish Jay had said 'NeNe Angeleaks'😂

    • @jimmiesavage437
      @jimmiesavage437 10 месяцев назад

      You were at a couple thousand followers when I followed you and now you're over a million whoop whoop ❤❤❤

  • @hotcrazycatladyme168
    @hotcrazycatladyme168 10 месяцев назад +134

    If Tyra told me I'm not Beyonce, I would just shrug and say "You're not Naomi Campbell".

    • @zeenkosis
      @zeenkosis 3 месяца назад +17

      😂😂😂

    • @southpark36
      @southpark36 27 дней назад +11

      EMOTIONAL DAMAGE😂😂

    • @heatherbeach4696
      @heatherbeach4696 23 дня назад +7

      That would have PISSED Tyra OFF!
      It's pretty well known Tyra has had some major insecurities about Naomi Campbell!

  • @RICKYakaZEPHYR
    @RICKYakaZEPHYR 10 месяцев назад +311

    Tyra telling Bianca to be a leader, to only eliminate her for being a leader to her own convictions. Riiiiight…

  • @qb10002
    @qb10002 10 месяцев назад +728

    You are absolutely right about the producers not feeding the models, because we saw Lisa talk about that during the Express photo shoot. Also, Angelea did an interview after the season aired talking about how they would intentionally send the girls on set without eating all day so that they could make them cranky and get more drama for the show. It’s truly disgusting going back and seeing how the girls were treated during this absolute circus of a show, especially in later seasons.

    • @kaylabey
      @kaylabey 10 месяцев назад +9

      but there’s literally someone in the back with food

    • @angelabarnes1675
      @angelabarnes1675 10 месяцев назад +38

      Also, they NEVER told them that they needed to pay for their own food, sad that so many went in broke and couldn't afford to eat.

    • @gemstar7286
      @gemstar7286 10 месяцев назад +22

      It's straight up abusive if that's true .

    • @darwinlapitan1759
      @darwinlapitan1759 10 месяцев назад +19

      It was confirmed that it was intentional that production will withhold food to make the girls cranky.

    • @tomorrocat
      @tomorrocat 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@angelabarnes1675Whaaat! Are you serious that is truly f'ed up!!!

  • @lukeguccii
    @lukeguccii 10 месяцев назад +384

    I remember reading that the reason both Kayla and Bianca got eliminated was because they both stood up for the whole group because the producers weren’t feeding them so they both basically led the charge against the production to make sure the girls were all fed properly since they often weren’t given food. It makes sense why they eliminated both of them when both of their photos were good.

    • @annahejas54
      @annahejas54 10 месяцев назад +11

      I was searching for that comment :3

    • @starsimvidz
      @starsimvidz 10 месяцев назад +63

      Bianca said in an interview that all stars was such a hot mess that all the girls were dying to be eliminated... Bianca actually had a very successful commercial modelling career... so she had nothing to gain by doing any of this circus

    • @jaydamay6815
      @jaydamay6815 10 месяцев назад +2

      they ate so bad .

    • @zvezdoblyat
      @zvezdoblyat 10 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@starsimvidzwow... That really defeats the point of the show if everyone wants to leave. What were the producers thinking?

  • @falconinthedive
    @falconinthedive 10 месяцев назад +191

    The real tea of this, which actually dovetails with alison being hungry is Kayla and Bianca apparently refused to film until the models got fed this week, so basically Tyra decided to union bust because the girls tried to insist on being fed.

  • @mark-louisanderson-fisher9924
    @mark-louisanderson-fisher9924 10 месяцев назад +333

    The gaslighting! We need a Netflix Surviving ANTM special

  • @brookb5890
    @brookb5890 10 месяцев назад +488

    The way Alexandra totally called them out for the dumb idea, but the editors used that clip... Everyone is aware that this is a circus, but the models still expect some level of respect and everyone is just laughing at them like, "Dance, monkey, dance!"

    • @samuelesocchi5060
      @samuelesocchi5060 10 месяцев назад +26

      Exactly.
      Especially because she couldn’t really break the 4th wall saying she is in fact a reality tv contestant doing absurd photoshoots with absurd concepts.

    • @Elaan021
      @Elaan021 10 месяцев назад +46

      There's almost a level of sadism to the All-Star Cycle that the contestants definitely picked up on. I'm curious how the show was pitched to them and how that compares to what actually happened.
      I didn't notice when it aired, but watching now it's almost like some of it was designed to humiliate models who went on to be successful and/or remind the world/industry that they were ANTM contestants first.
      (EDIT: grammar)

    • @Poopoopeepee6969
      @Poopoopeepee6969 6 месяцев назад

      To be fair this is a reality show about a modeling competition, not a modeling competition. If they end up making a long-term career out of it seems incidental.

  • @youreaqt3730
    @youreaqt3730 10 месяцев назад +406

    I remember Tyra back in the day talking about how she didn’t do photo shoots she felt uncomfortable with. That she had a reputation to uphold. It’s soooo funny how she says she would do all this ridiculous stuff. She’s such a liar and hypocrite. I also remember she said she would bring her mamma with her to help support her for things she didn’t wanna do. And she always talks about having integrity, self respect, know your image and uphold it. Yet she forces and critiques the girls for not doing things that felt uncomfortable with or didn’t agree with.

    • @tomorrocat
      @tomorrocat 9 месяцев назад +10

      Thank you, my point exactly about her mother!!!

    • @tomorrocat
      @tomorrocat 9 месяцев назад +12

      Let these girls have their mothers (or whoever their support person is) standing by their side at panel while the judges go down the line making degrading and inappropriate comments!!!

    • @tomorrocat
      @tomorrocat 9 месяцев назад +9

      After making them do degrading and inappropriate stuff!

    • @Kairos_Akuma
      @Kairos_Akuma 7 месяцев назад +13

      Yepp. Also shes known for refusing to shoot without clothing. Yet she forces the contestants to do so and throws a hissyfit when they are uncomfortable...

    • @SaBaby93
      @SaBaby93 7 месяцев назад +2

      She's lieing she was forced to do many things she was uncomfortable with...for money smh

  • @dramamole
    @dramamole 10 месяцев назад +221

    Oh the irony that they ended up eliminating Shannon for her convictions as well. She set boundaries when they asked her to be on the show and they still asked something of her she made clear she wasn't going to do and when she didn't do it they eliminated her. Would love to see you react to that shoot because it is absolutely ridiculous

    • @faizrahmans5007
      @faizrahmans5007 10 месяцев назад +15

      She already react the greek salad photoshoot

    • @dramamole
      @dramamole 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@faizrahmans5007 ah ok thanks I missed that one

    • @AngelicaAngel888_
      @AngelicaAngel888_ 10 месяцев назад +23

      I'm actually surprised Shannon came back, considering how conservative she is.

    • @theshadowfax239
      @theshadowfax239 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AngelicaAngel888_ Yeah, she seems to really hate the gay people.

  • @bellabadu
    @bellabadu 10 месяцев назад +255

    You don't have to be Beyonce to have standards....

    • @Chani-uk4wf
      @Chani-uk4wf 4 месяца назад +2

      💀😂

    • @Hi.Im.Lovely
      @Hi.Im.Lovely 2 месяца назад +4

      She literally used Beyoncé as a reference though .. she refused to do the shoot in the tub because “I don’t see Beyoncé in tub selling her perfume” .. now Tyra could’ve and should’ve said .. rightnow you’re not at the level of Beyoncé which is true Beyoncé has been in the industry for so many years Bianca is a amateur still . Not that she’s not Beyoncé because it does come off very btchy

  • @tinabelcher3722
    @tinabelcher3722 10 месяцев назад +146

    Nigel's been a photographer for years yet doesn't realize that the models don't do their own makeup for photoshoots? He was being ridiculous here.

    • @lukeguccii
      @lukeguccii 10 месяцев назад +25

      He wasn’t talking about makeup in the photo/photoshoot. He was taking a dig at her makeup in panel/in-person which is why everyone went oooohhh

    • @tinabelcher3722
      @tinabelcher3722 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@lukeguccii Oh ok. They camera kept doing a closeup of the photo when he was saying that, so I guess I misunderstood.

  • @katet8639
    @katet8639 10 месяцев назад +77

    Alexandria asking the real question here ''How am I supposed to get my high fashion back by portraying a reality star?'' Like, what is so high fashion about this shoot? NONE

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 10 месяцев назад +278

    We were gaslit into believing this was premium American reality programming.

    • @moniquegreen9567
      @moniquegreen9567 10 месяцев назад +16

      And love every minute of it

    • @michelepatton1315
      @michelepatton1315 10 месяцев назад +23

      I agree, I watched all the seasons of Top Model when I was young. I never realized how F'ed up the judges were. I guess I was more into the drama.

    • @kyliessave8454
      @kyliessave8454 10 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@michelepatton1315i was more into the shoot and the photos tbh

    • @origamipein18
      @origamipein18 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yup. ):

    • @theshadowfax239
      @theshadowfax239 2 месяца назад +4

      It absolutely was premium American reality programming. Do you not understand what reality shows are all about? Here's a hint, it's not about empowering people and making them become models.

  • @simplyrachel_1
    @simplyrachel_1 10 месяцев назад +134

    Mike rosenthal is absolutely amazing.
    I remember almost every photoshot he did on the show and he really transformed every ridiculous concept in actually very good photos .

    • @ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926
      @ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 10 месяцев назад +27

      he was also a regular judge and photographed for Asia’s Next Top Model and his pictures for the jungle warriors were divine

    • @simplyrachel_1
      @simplyrachel_1 10 месяцев назад

      @@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 omg I need to see that!

    • @rainydays9967
      @rainydays9967 10 месяцев назад +6

      Only he could save such a terrible concept. His photos are always stunning. I love his work.

    • @simplyrachel_1
      @simplyrachel_1 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@rainydays9967yes! Agree!, he is very good.

  • @scrappydeux
    @scrappydeux 10 месяцев назад +77

    I literally would be bitter for the rest of my life if I spent like two plus months at a modeling competition and left with ZERO photos able to use in my portfolio

  • @hurphenelondwil2419
    @hurphenelondwil2419 10 месяцев назад +251

    As a former model I have appreciated your commentary for the last couple years, on this show as well as showing your shooting process. You said so many things on this episode specifically that new models (all models) need to remember and use! They are HUMANS! Thank you so much for always keeping things even and fair from your experiences!

  • @sstjohn96
    @sstjohn96 10 месяцев назад +136

    What makes me so sad is how Allison has said she struggle(s/d) with disordered eating and admits she's so hungry on set. I just remember going through the same situation and how hard it was to accept/admit that I was hungry.

    • @taylardotson8100
      @taylardotson8100 10 месяцев назад +10

      Especially since she probably hasn't eaten since she came on the set 😢

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes and Bianca refused to give her food because she was insecure and creating reality TV. Yet you guys are SILENT on this.

    • @zvezdoblyat
      @zvezdoblyat 10 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@bulbasaur232I don't think anyone is blaming Bianca, but why tf is anyone starving on the shoot in the first place?

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@zvezdoblyat well specifically Creepy Chan, she struggled with an ED pre show (since fully recovered way before the show), on top of production starving the girls for TV drama ON TOP of Bianca being "candid" and constantly instigating fights and stirring the pot.

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@zvezdoblyat that's the point, no one is blaming Bianca when there's plenty of blame because bullies are heroes and victims are bullies in this echo chamber.

  • @EmberAwoken
    @EmberAwoken 10 месяцев назад +353

    “You’re not Beyoncé.” Duh but she is a person. And without morals or something to stand for then she is nothing. Good on her for sticking to her guns. The challenge was like 2% being in a tub and 98% creating and marketing. Tyra is a sham of a person.

    • @lizanna6390
      @lizanna6390 10 месяцев назад +9

      And she never will be if she's constantly making a fool of herself

    • @lidiagizaw3828
      @lidiagizaw3828 10 месяцев назад +1

      haha chick is on a modeling reality show with challenges then acts like she's beyonce lmao

    • @K.D-Gaia
      @K.D-Gaia 10 месяцев назад +29

      The irony in that statement is that even Beyonce wouldn't be Beyonce if she didn't have a strong conviction of self.

    • @animecookies8784
      @animecookies8784 10 месяцев назад +31

      ​@@lidiagizaw3828looks like you missed the point too. She never said she was Beyonce. But Beyonce would never do that because she has high integrity of herself and respect. Bianca believes those values.

    • @gemstar7286
      @gemstar7286 10 месяцев назад +23

      I haven't even seen the bath tub episode , but i already know Tyra is lying when she says she 'would do it '. If it's humiliation or something silly , there's no way Tyra would embarrass herself . She always makes out she's gone through worse in her modelling career, but i bet she's refused plenty of stuff.

  • @jenju4854
    @jenju4854 10 месяцев назад +82

    Im convinced tyra just likes to humilate people to stroke her own ego

    • @margotchanning1822
      @margotchanning1822 10 месяцев назад +17

      That's ALL she does. And her crappy attempt at sounding sweet and caring at the end of every elimination is nauseating

    • @terrymorganfairchild8944
      @terrymorganfairchild8944 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes Indeed and Naomi is the mean one.

  • @marissaconklin5098
    @marissaconklin5098 10 месяцев назад +139

    "If I was you, and that was the assignment I would do it and I would try to win." No... Tyra, you wouldn't. She always wants to put these poor girls in uncomfortable or awful situations. I'm just glad some people like the lovely Bianca actually stood up for herself. I wish that something like this was airing now, but all the 'judges' are models who genuinely want to help the aspiring models and do every shoot along with the girls. Actual constructive criticism and praise was a huge part of what was missing.
    Jessica, I recently found your channel; love your comments from a photographer perspective as well as a kind and sweet human being. Definitely going to go through your other videos!

    • @Elaan021
      @Elaan021 10 месяцев назад +12

      Maybe Tyra would have done it when she was starting out...because the industry is exploitative and was even worse then. But, she always pontificates about how she's there to advocate for models...so why isn't she supporting the contestants who self-advocate?

    • @sarahcatherine57
      @sarahcatherine57 10 месяцев назад +8

      What's amazing is on her Tyra show she had an entire episode dedicated to girls being scammed and put in compromising situations by fake or sketchy model calls.

    • @gemstar7286
      @gemstar7286 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@Elaan021 I still think Tyra refused plenty of things that made her uncomfortable... and even if she did some of them , we all know today she would never do anything she thinks is degrading or too silly, as she would think it's beneath her . The way Tyra and the other judges nit pick at the models and make them jump through hoops, seems to come from either a bitter place or the fact they just love making fun of the girls. I've seen quite a few videos... where they laugh at the models , when they make them do even more ridiculous embarrassing stunts. There's zero support and zero constructive criticism. It's all about drama & ratings for the show ..... they use the models .

    • @malia_ej
      @malia_ej 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think that "The Face" a UK TV Show was kinda like that, contestants were mentored by supermodels, but having never watched it I don't actually know how they treated

    • @marissaconklin5098
      @marissaconklin5098 7 месяцев назад

      @@malia_ej I watched that too, I don’t remember it well, but I don’t think the treatment was as bad or blatant as ANTM.

  • @brainless4u
    @brainless4u 10 месяцев назад +121

    The real reason Angelea was disqualified from winning is the random bystander calling Angelea Tyra and Tyra getting jealous.

    • @menaceX666
      @menaceX666 10 месяцев назад +20

      So they needed to dig up her 'problematic' past to officially justify a reason even though they knew from the second they casted her for her fist season 😭

  • @frenchfry14595
    @frenchfry14595 10 месяцев назад +38

    I liked your point about how Tyra is rewarding one person and punishing another for the same thing. It's very frustrating to watch someone make an important decision that impacts other people's lives based on absolutely nothing. Good show! Your commentary is invaluable!

  • @Februarys
    @Februarys 10 месяцев назад +72

    Whats funny is that Tyra always talks about her first casting and how they told her to lose a bit more weight, and her mom said NO. So Tyra has been in a situation where a job has asked her to do something and she refused because she thought it was wrong for her image.
    So Tyra def has been in Bianca shoes and knew exactly what Bianca meant when it comes to refusing a job.

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад

      Where? When? She also talked about being tired of eating ONLY chicken and vegetables for years. She talked about rebranding herself AFTER her successful career in Europe. So where does she say this about her first casting? When she flew over the first time, it was by herself. Her mom was at the gate sending her off. You mean in LA? When?

    • @Februarys
      @Februarys 10 месяцев назад +9

      ⁠@@bulbasaur232literally her claim to fame story that she repeated was when she first started, her casting calls were asking her to lose weight and her mom and her were not having it. And I’m not about to sit here and look through hours of her talk show to find it, you can do it yourself

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад

      @@Februarys lol she literally described having skinny chicken legs in her teen years, being tall and lanky and being refused by agency after agency. For a claim to fame, sure seems obscure almost as if it didn't happen. They mention her nose, the subsequent medical surgery...but weight issue? Again, when she started to "develop" in Europe after her high fashion career was cemented, her mom and her were given a list of all the designers who would no longer work with her because of those physical changes. This prompted her career change segue into VS and mainstream stuff. "We're going to order a pizza". Bizzare how she was already subsisting on chicken and vegetables being booked for high fashion gigs as a skinny model (her own admission booking a fashion show number record for a season or whatever) yet was apparently told to lose weight some where some place some time no one remembers during her "first casting". If her mom said NO, why the chicken and vegetable diet restriction for YEARS during the height of her early career?

  • @SheepasaurusRex
    @SheepasaurusRex 10 месяцев назад +76

    kinda funny that famed photographer nigel barker ISN'T the guy who's photographed most of the top model shoots. like, he's a judge, right? shouldn't he be more involved on set?

    • @moonbook12
      @moonbook12 10 месяцев назад +9

      Omg so true

  • @LoXena
    @LoXena 10 месяцев назад +57

    Tyra gaslit her by saying, 'I would do it.' So why didn't she do it throughout her career?

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад

      Gaslighting is essential in this echo chamber, it's your guys' fox news afterall.

  • @Jalil-wx7rh
    @Jalil-wx7rh 10 месяцев назад +177

    "What was the big deal of not getting in the tub?"
    Because it's silly and ridiculous! And people in the modeling world who watch it don't care and won't take you seriously! Ask previous contestants.

    • @lidiagizaw3828
      @lidiagizaw3828 10 месяцев назад +8

      chick came back to a reality show to do these silly challenges lmao but now she's too good for them lol

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +2

      People in the modeling world dont watch it honey. They don't care what they do on the show. So that reasoning doesn't work here.
      "Ask previous contestants"?
      Mollie Sue cycle 6 was massively sucessful: they didn't want us! (antm girls) esp after cycle 7 with CariDee.
      Going by nda expired interviews, a majority of girls have cited being on Antm and being refused work or in some cases booking work bc of antm. Not that any prospective client or casting agent actually watched the show or knew what they did or even cared. Next.

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@lidiagizaw3828 this is the logic in this woke echo chamber. Their lack of self awareness is amazing.

  • @alysha2162
    @alysha2162 10 месяцев назад +84

    As someone who has no expertise in body language - it’s interesting how Tyra was shaking her head “no” while saying “I would do it”

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +2

      Because she literally has done all that and even more in her career.

    • @zvezdoblyat
      @zvezdoblyat 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@bulbasaur232not a single thing in these shows would be imposed on a model who isn't willing. Nobody will force you to go nude, nobody will force you to do suggestive sessions with men (in a shoot anyway, those poor girls)

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@zvezdoblyat lol please don't watch the Vogue model expose with legions of famous models across generations speaking about their traumas in the fashion industry for decades..since as you say it never happens outside "these shows".

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@zvezdoblyat also you're are somewhat wrong, they are "willing" by signing those NDAs and other contracts not holding "the show" liable for what happens subsequently.

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@zvezdoblyat Tyra has done insane things for entertainment vis a vis her acting career, mad tv, movies, etc on top of her antics on her talk show. She literally has done comparable things and then some. Meanwhile, you guys who have no knowledge about her career: omg she would never.
      Reality: she has

  • @samanthaleo2590
    @samanthaleo2590 10 месяцев назад +23

    Honestly, I completely understand why they kept hiring Rosenthal to be the photographer. His work is amazing.

  • @kachiin
    @kachiin 10 месяцев назад +50

    38:27
    The Mysogynoir is OOZING outta Tyra, truly disgusting.
    Praising that white woman for the same reasons she's bashing Bianca for wtf

  • @michellehalemassacre
    @michellehalemassacre 10 месяцев назад +44

    Tyra literally reiterated what Bianca told her. Bianca said Beyonce wouldn't do that, and neither would Rihanna. Then Tyra says, "If she was Bianca, which she isn't, she would have gotten into the bathtub. Go ahead and disrespect yourself. She didn't want to.

    • @lidiagizaw3828
      @lidiagizaw3828 10 месяцев назад

      chick is no beyonce and no rihanna let's be real

    • @johnbrown9654
      @johnbrown9654 10 месяцев назад

      @@lidiagizaw3828she know she wasn’t but she said she wouldn’t see them in a bathtub 😒

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад

      Yes and Tyra and company made bank doing it. So did Lisa. Bianca? Not so much. Cope. Seethe.

  • @Jalil-wx7rh
    @Jalil-wx7rh 10 месяцев назад +32

    Tyra is probably one of the biggest gaslighters ever.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 10 месяцев назад +130

    Famous Last Words: “Tyra came up with such a great idea…”

  • @AidenXJeffreySkits
    @AidenXJeffreySkits 10 месяцев назад +71

    Bianca not being coachable is code for not being submissive.
    Also, if you go back to part one, Bianca was not the only girl who didn't get in the bathtub. It was another girl who was praised for her morals and convictions...just sayin'.

    • @retha1875
      @retha1875 10 месяцев назад +1

      No, it isn't. You clearly have never been in a role where you have to train people for s job etc I have had to let people go who aren't coachable. If you play team sports, you have to be coach able.

    • @arianikolleortemoreno5225
      @arianikolleortemoreno5225 10 месяцев назад +11

      ​@retha1875 we are talking about ATM not other roles
      In ATM they just want them to ridicule the models so not being coach able = not being submissive enough to disrespect their boundaries and morals

  • @UhOhZo
    @UhOhZo 10 месяцев назад +59

    30:13 Absolutely not. Tyra was definitely just saying that to argue against Bianca’s decision. There is no way in hell that woman, with her pride, would do such a thing. When she said she would’ve, I actually laughed

  • @Loopdeeloopandpull
    @Loopdeeloopandpull 10 месяцев назад +40

    I really appreciate some of the points you’re making regarding boundaries in this vid. As someone who grew up watching this show and ended up in arts/entertainment I had a very skewed perception of what healthy boundaries in your work look like thanks a lot to the rhetoric on the show and I wish I had your mindset years ago

    • @calliemyersbuchanan6458
      @calliemyersbuchanan6458 10 месяцев назад +6

      Same but with theatre. I was in a production in college and anytime we called out the director for her toxic behavior and hurtful rhetoric she would always reply with "Welcome to the business!" like first, this is a community college summer theatre program. This ain't exactly "the business," lady! And second even if it were, why do YOU have to contribute to the toxicity?! I feel Tyra was similar. Like i'm sorry but the whole "i'm preparing you for the real world where people are going to bully you by bullying you myself!" is just such an awful approach and I see it EVERYWHERE!

  • @brookb5890
    @brookb5890 10 месяцев назад +109

    I can't get over how well this would have turned out if the girls had been wearing evening gowns or wedding dresses on the back of the bike. Imagine what they could have done with some billowing fabric.

    • @arisucheddar3097
      @arisucheddar3097 10 месяцев назад +16

      Only if the photo was faked. Actually being driven around on that bike with billowing fabric is an accident waiting to happen.
      On second thought that seems right up ANTM's alley.

    • @commentsforthealgorithm
      @commentsforthealgorithm 10 месяцев назад +4

      That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Long ombré chiffon or billowy fabrics would have made such a stunning silhouette omg. So romantic and ethereal yet on a motor cycle which is so gritty and grounded

    • @commentsforthealgorithm
      @commentsforthealgorithm 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@arisucheddar3097they were on a trailer just sitting on the bike on this platform. So it would have been fine, otherwise I agree.

  • @IsabellaQuinns
    @IsabellaQuinns 10 месяцев назад +147

    Kayla was so robbed. Such a disappointment. She's an incredible model and her elimination was so unfair

    • @MsMockingbird06
      @MsMockingbird06 10 месяцев назад +9

      Twice!

    • @cmartinez6024
      @cmartinez6024 10 месяцев назад +10

      She delivered a good photo and a good video in her original season, yet they kicked her, also she’s an amazing walker, underrated model

    • @IsabellaQuinns
      @IsabellaQuinns 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@cmartinez6024yeah, true. With Ann there weren't any chances for anyone else in that season, but here I hoped to see more of her. Now I think there was something going on behind the scenes that made them eliminate her, knowing how scandalous this cycle was

    • @cmartinez6024
      @cmartinez6024 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@IsabellaQuinns Ann took legendary photos, like no one had a chance to win against her, she was the best model at photography, her walk was bad btw

    • @rainydays9967
      @rainydays9967 10 месяцев назад +5

      They got rid of her and Bianca because they were speaking up against production and they way they were treating all of the models. Notice this is the first time they got rid of 2 models.

  • @Uskall
    @Uskall 10 месяцев назад +65

    They kept Shannon because her morals "come from God" vs Bianca's who has her own that aligns with her work ethic. I have nothing against Shannon or her being religious but I do agree with that it's a sort of double standard from the judges that they're like "oh hers is religious we can't seem anti-christian" or whatever it was

    • @3ch1dna07
      @3ch1dna07 10 месяцев назад +12

      I can't respect Bianca more because of her standing up for her convictions! She's 100% right! Beyonce would never pose in a tub early in her career either because that sets a precedent for where they can start the push to make you even more uncomfortable all in the name of "furthering" your career.

    • @melodramaticmuse4079
      @melodramaticmuse4079 10 месяцев назад +10

      I also think it was much more entertaining for them to have her as a contestant because she had a lot of rules for what she would and wouldn't do which sold better as "super religious uptight model!!11!" vs a model who directly challenged the show's manipulative tactics and stood her ground against the judges. in other words lol, Shannon never truly challenged the judges directly bc it always stemmed from religious morals where Bianca had no fear standing up and calling them out (I hope that makes sense lol)

    • @xm2895
      @xm2895 10 месяцев назад +3

      But then they eliminate Shannon in Greece

    • @melodramaticmuse4079
      @melodramaticmuse4079 10 месяцев назад

      oh no for sure, and ill admit its been a while since I've seen this season, and im not saying that wasn't wrong or they weren't also rude about Shannons convictions, because they were. I think with the roots of each girls morals, standards, and convictions, it was easier and more profitable to keep Shannon around longer than Bianca, but the minute her rules did start to inconvenience the judges, they quickly cut her loose@@xm2895

    • @rainydays9967
      @rainydays9967 10 месяцев назад +2

      But ended up elongating her later because of her morals 🤦‍♀️

  • @Jeremy-wp4yh
    @Jeremy-wp4yh 10 месяцев назад +36

    This sounds so funny out of context 😂. Only people of this channel will understand the title 🤣

  • @RuthMcDougal
    @RuthMcDougal 10 месяцев назад +33

    So many of the models had EDs and they definitely exploited that through the various seasons. Telling them they are eating “too much” while simultaneously not feeding them and then having “interventions” because they didn’t “eat enough.” The models went through so much. Also to not feed them for the drama when they are in an industry where EDS are more common!

  • @owencarpenter2326
    @owencarpenter2326 10 месяцев назад +25

    Bianca not standing in the tub does show leadership. To be the only one going against the course is tough

  • @Super_Grover_
    @Super_Grover_ 10 месяцев назад +16

    Wow Kayla had the best photo, but still went home. The competition aspect of this show has never been a priority.

  • @naturequeene132
    @naturequeene132 10 месяцев назад +17

    Notice how Tyra doesn’t even say she would’ve done a shoot like that, she says “If I were YOU, and that was the assignment, I’d do it.” Again, she’s putting contestants on the show down because she believes she’s so far above them.

  • @giancarlorodriguez8623
    @giancarlorodriguez8623 10 месяцев назад +14

    "Sir, you wasted your own time" Im dead ☠️😂

  • @EJNSAA
    @EJNSAA 10 месяцев назад +8

    Andre: Angelea has evolved so much
    Jessica: like a Pokémon
    😂😂

  • @Jalil-wx7rh
    @Jalil-wx7rh 10 месяцев назад +59

    Let me start this off and say this is one of the most ridiculous shoots ever. The worst of this cycle. Like what's the point???

  • @fortunes_youtube
    @fortunes_youtube 10 месяцев назад +31

    Tyra bringing Kathy Griffin is exactly what this show is - a joke.
    A - This concept is so lazy. At least do multiple reality show stars and ACTUALLY try to go for their likeness. Laura's look reminds me of Nicole Richie if anything.
    B - The whole panel was basically "know your place". They need a lesson on POWER DYNAMICS. The models they mentioned? Yeah that would be a million dollar deal at minimum. They'll probably be promoting that with a high-profile director probably on TV or commercials, not a random rooftop with strangers. Bianca had none of that.
    C - The double elimination probably had something to do with a previous shoot (I don't want to spoil).

  • @CoverGirlNay
    @CoverGirlNay 10 месяцев назад +6

    “This wig” 🤣🤣 I’m willing to bet that it’s the same stylist from Cycle 7 with Anchal as Stedman 😂

  • @Lisianthusbloom
    @Lisianthusbloom 10 месяцев назад +19

    All I could think about is the guy 'driving' the motorcycle hahaha. Is he a male model? Random guy they found off the street lol? He looks so deeply uncomfortable

  • @ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926
    @ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 10 месяцев назад +38

    Apparently they also eliminated Kayla because she stood up against the producers because the girls were not receiving any food or water so the hunger agitates them causing fight and drama

  • @c.k.mcknight8921
    @c.k.mcknight8921 10 месяцев назад +27

    This cycle had some terrible photoshoots ... the "pot ledom"/top model backwards music video shoot, the "motion editorial" that was really just a shameless promotion for Tyra's Modelland book, and of course, this one.

    • @herefortheshrimp1469
      @herefortheshrimp1469 10 месяцев назад +6

      Ugh I had almost forgot about that brain dead “pot ledom” mess lol

    • @Souten66
      @Souten66 10 месяцев назад +4

      That Pot Ledom was so ridiculous. I remember watching it having zero media literacy and going “This is ridiculous.” They’re trying to be models, not singers/songwriters. And then Tyra had to insert herself into it

    • @lucyfurr777
      @lucyfurr777 10 месяцев назад +2

      HAHAHAHA I FORGOT ABOUT POT LEDOM OMG

  • @lucyfurr777
    @lucyfurr777 10 месяцев назад +16

    I hate the reasoning of "well you're not THAT famous or well-known, so you have to do what we say". Like how Lisa said they have to pay their dues in the previous video. I get "paying your dues", but that doesn't mean you have to do things you feel are demeaning or just don't align with who you are/how you want to conduct yourself.
    I've said it before, but Tyra never liked Bianca, not sure why. I'm glad Bianca pushed back a lot this season, it was honestly very refreshing amd satisfying to watch.

  • @Amanda_Woodward
    @Amanda_Woodward 10 месяцев назад +69

    I totally disagree that she should have handed everybody a pickle… It’s a competition and she is the one who thought of it… Why would she just hand pickles out to everyone - they should have thought of it themselves… That is what the competition is about lol, good for her for thinking of it and keeping them

    • @michelledawn7446
      @michelledawn7446 10 месяцев назад +23

      I think Allison just wanted one to eat. According to a lot of the contestants this season, the girls were not fed well, so they were probably hungry a lot. Being hungry makes people irritable which is good for causing more drama.

    • @winterfromwisthollow
      @winterfromwisthollow 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@michelledawn7446 yeah, it seems like Allison's photoshoot was already over, like she was back in her regular clothes, makeup removed

    • @Heroesfullyalive
      @Heroesfullyalive 10 месяцев назад +12

      Maybe hand some pickles out to eat after the girl is finished with her shoot. That way Bianca keeps her idea and the pickles aren't wasted.

    • @alkahinat4558
      @alkahinat4558 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Heroesfullyaliveyes! A compromise
      Because I get why Bianca didn’t share them, but hunger can be so distracting and uncomfortable

  • @LouisaRubyDDD
    @LouisaRubyDDD 10 месяцев назад +10

    The Dollar Store comparison was so accurate. The shoots these models were doing back in their original cycles were way more high fashion. This season’s challenges and photo shoots were cheap, lazy and lame.

  • @intothemystic5223
    @intothemystic5223 10 месяцев назад +15

    Why tf is Kathy a guest judge on a modeling show??

  • @michelejackson9171
    @michelejackson9171 10 месяцев назад +23

    I feel like no matter what the girls do, the judging panel flips a coin to see what they are going to promote. Do we send them home for disagreeing with what we say or do we send them home for agreeing? One episode they will tell a girl off for being too thin, the next for 'disrespecting their body' and putting on weight. They send one home for sticking with their morals, but then the minute one refuses to pose nude, they are sent out the door. They tell some to have more personality as they are not memorable, then others are told to reign it in, but then they are sent home because they have lost their spark. They tell a girl that they need more confidence, but any girl with confidence is called arrogant and told they need to remember they are at the bottom. Basically, these girls could do no right and we unfortunately were gaslit into thinking this was what reality of the modelling industry was. How many girls who watched the show and wanted to be models were tricked into thinking posing nude when they were uncomfortable was OK? Or that complaining about a male models inappropriate behaviour made themselves 'unprofessional'? These people did more harm than the actual industry.

  • @michelledawn7446
    @michelledawn7446 10 месяцев назад +19

    According to Angelea and some other contestants on this season, production starved the girls for hours and hours each day because they knew it would make them cranky and irritable and that would lead to more drama for the show.

  • @EllieC130
    @EllieC130 10 месяцев назад +20

    You know I used to think Nigel was the sensible, reasonable one back in the day but oof, some of his comments do not look good in the cold light of day. Also I don't make Bianca right in every moment but I love that she remains true to herself in a very dignified way. I can respect people who show their emotions harder too but something about her way of subtly saying "I know I was right but they're entitled to their opinion" is killer.

  • @OMGSHEENA
    @OMGSHEENA 10 месяцев назад +14

    Great episode Jessica! I Lost any remaining respect I had for Tyra and Kathy when they shamefully put down a woman for standing up for herself and setting her own boundaries. Kathy of all people would never have let someone tell her to get in that tub if the roles were reversed and she wouldn't have declined so gracefully either.

  • @HayleyWilkins-zm8xd
    @HayleyWilkins-zm8xd 9 месяцев назад +5

    I feel like Nigel saying she was mad and frowning was trying to portray Bianca as an angry black woman. It is past micro aggression to aggression aggression!

  • @salvadordollyparton7428
    @salvadordollyparton7428 10 месяцев назад +9

    It was confirmed in an Oliver twixt interview by one of the girls (maybe bianca?) that Bianca and Kayla were both eliminated to make a point because they were calling out production behind the scenes for withholding food

  • @EllieBelle1993
    @EllieBelle1993 10 месяцев назад +57

    She asked Shannon if she wanted one to eat, and he said she was going to take it on the set and Bianca then said well now you can’t have one!
    Im sure if Alison asked for one to eat she probably would have given her one, but Bianca was thinking they were all going to steal her idea and so she just shut it down for everyone

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nice spin. Bianca was insecure and she denied her "friend" her "Alley Cat" food because of it.

    • @EllieBelle1993
      @EllieBelle1993 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@bulbasaur232 I don’t think it was done maliciously or any other kind of way though! I think it was just miscommunication and the competition getting in the way 😢

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 8 месяцев назад

      @@EllieBelle1993 Bianca: I'm going to be a b*tch to you, too, Allison.
      Bianca: bullies and mistreats Heather, laughing at the girl with aspergers
      Bianca: is classist and deplorable to Lisa for being a dancer to pay rent, making her cry
      You: NOTHING MALICIOUS ABOUT HER

  • @botanbutton
    @botanbutton 10 месяцев назад +27

    See, I could never.
    I'm one of those people that doesn't back down when I know that I know something or when I feel very strongly about something.
    I definitely would have asked "then give me an example Tyra? cause I'm pretty sure you didn't. i need receipts🤲🏾 ". Bianca better than me and maybe a bunch of us.

    • @bulbasaur232
      @bulbasaur232 10 месяцев назад

      When presented with receipts, when fact checked, you'll just ignore them and invent your own. Like republicans do.

  • @J_Mock92
    @J_Mock92 10 месяцев назад +5

    I love how you always say "before we see who gets eliminated for no reason..." 😂😂😂

  • @dd6325
    @dd6325 10 месяцев назад +11

    Bianca and Alexandria were 100% right this season. They called out all the gimmicks, in every episode. This season was definitely to make the contestants look bad. Hearing all the bts stuff from Lisa and Angelea makes it make sense, and It’s so sad because this could’ve been the highest fashion season. The girls were almost all working and signed. It could’ve really give ANTM some legitimacy but the gimmicks and D celebs ruined it.

  • @flw2915
    @flw2915 10 месяцев назад +11

    I agree 1000% on what Bianca was saying the judges keep forgetting that these women already knew the tricks of top model at this point and to have a reputation of a fantastic modeling career I agree!! let’s be for real Naomi, Kate Moss they wouldn’t do that either including Tyra be for real!!

  • @Jalil-wx7rh
    @Jalil-wx7rh 10 месяцев назад +18

    I think it would've been more effective if Bianca went harder on Tyra and specifically said SHE wouldn't be doing something like this, and she knows it....But then again, Tyra is weird in all measures, so maybe she would. That's just Tyra's weird personality, but Naomi wouldn't do it.

  • @greenolly
    @greenolly 9 месяцев назад +4

    The half assed concepts, retouching, Jay's intentionally bad direction, and the obvious choosing of shots that ARE NOT their best tells me that the number one goal of this show is to exploit and humiliate women. There's just no way it's not.

    • @lynnetmb4706
      @lynnetmb4706 8 месяцев назад

      The whole show is narcissistic abuse.

  • @Alexellis738
    @Alexellis738 10 месяцев назад +7

    Love you ANTM I watched it as a kid and loved it now I’m like what the heck! Love your comedic relief and comments you’re hilarious never stop making videos!

  • @dorothy6200
    @dorothy6200 10 месяцев назад +15

    Don’t have to be Beyoncé to have self respect and boundaries.

  • @dalerimoller272
    @dalerimoller272 10 месяцев назад +5

    The whole thing just reminds me of a mean girl type situation. Like Tyra pretends to give these girls opportunities and a platform to show their expertise. But really she just gets the young pretty things that she’s envious of and actually tries to humiliate them with these goofy ideas.

    • @alkahinat4558
      @alkahinat4558 10 месяцев назад +2

      The whole show is literally a mammoth, modelling version of the film Mean Girls

  • @ariffhamid
    @ariffhamid 10 месяцев назад +11

    Bianca has a point. Shes a working model. Its an All star cycle. Challenges on top model all star cycle should have challenges not like previous2 cycles. It will make a working model look bad. Bianca can do whatever she feels right. The challenges are nonsense

  • @_labacanitaz
    @_labacanitaz 10 месяцев назад +7

    aahhh , back when* jersey shore was THE biggest show and literally every time we told someone we were from jersey we get the question "omg! You know Snooki or Pauly D?" 🤦🏽‍♀️😅
    We HATED that.

  • @BeckyLStoutWriter
    @BeckyLStoutWriter 10 месяцев назад +4

    "So there's gonna be little Snookis running around here!" Interesting. That's exactly what everyone says when they know Snooki is bringing the kids over for a visit. 😏

  • @MsMockingbird06
    @MsMockingbird06 10 месяцев назад +3

    I completely agree with you about Bianca. I’m so proud of her for keeping her dignity. And Tyra did Kayla dirty twice.

  • @jimmypikachuchoi
    @jimmypikachuchoi 10 месяцев назад +11

    I think they purposely eliminated both modes bc they were launching a protest vs. production for the treatment of the models, regarding the starving of the models or phone privileges or something. I think it was Bianca's idea to stand up for the girls and Kayla took part, and they both got eliminated afterwards. Kinda the same thing that happened with Claire in Cycle 10 protesting for phone privileges. Top Model and their double standards.........

  • @amaraw9893
    @amaraw9893 10 месяцев назад +6

    One thing Tyra will always make sure of is eliminating people that go against them

  • @Leoji0325
    @Leoji0325 10 месяцев назад +3

    The set up was mad cool like a motion shot in la is crazy cool idea but for SNOOKIE SHOTS? nah

  • @chrischris711
    @chrischris711 10 месяцев назад +6

    ANTM photo shoots are like Halloween costume party 🎃

  • @deborahcameron7025
    @deborahcameron7025 10 месяцев назад +1

    Jessica, I adore your comments. Hilariously sarastic but also super professional. One of my absolute favorite shows!

  • @catherine-eggallergyinmd
    @catherine-eggallergyinmd 10 месяцев назад +7

    Well Eva (from cycle 3) interviewed them for their perfume challenge, she was also on The Real Housewives of Atlanta, and one of her final photoshoots in Japan was like an anime girl on a motorcycle so my guess would be Tyra/ANTM wanted to one up a past photoshoot by making it more dynamic but also lacked any interest in creating an original photoshoot.

    • @PHSDM104
      @PHSDM104 10 месяцев назад +4

      That was crazy coincidence considering Eva didn't join RHOA until YEARS after this cycle aired.

    • @catherine-eggallergyinmd
      @catherine-eggallergyinmd 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@PHSDM104 WOW I forgot this season aired back in 2011... It doesn't feel like it was that long ago 😅. But yes you're right she didn't join RHOA for another 7 years.

  • @CarboneCat
    @CarboneCat 10 месяцев назад +6

    This photoshoot with an actual high fashion campaign feel would have been amazing! But they had to shove the models into being Nene and Snooki. Which makes these pictures unusable for the models portfolio.
    They gave Shannon the axe episodes later for the same reasons they kept her.

  • @CinnastixChick
    @CinnastixChick 10 месяцев назад +4

    Tyra probably wanted to say " you're not me" but realized that it'd be a little too narcissistic

  • @StardustAnnE
    @StardustAnnE 10 месяцев назад +3

    And they later eliminate Shannon for sticking up to her morals 😂

  • @SBBunny93
    @SBBunny93 10 месяцев назад +6

    To answer your question “would Tyra get in the bathtub to sell perfume” I would say yes. She’s always willing to do something stupid for attention because she’s so desperate to stay relevant. But just because she’s ok with degrading herself to further her career doesn’t mean everyone else is or should follow suit.

  • @NoahVDM
    @NoahVDM 10 месяцев назад +4

    Jessica - I love your videos - but why do you have such low volume in them? When the ads hit me it kills my ears with the loud volume because I have to turn it up to hear you in the video ; u ;

  • @ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926
    @ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 10 месяцев назад +4

    this photoshoot concept is such a big dooky 😭😂

  • @TheBestTamara
    @TheBestTamara 2 месяца назад +1

    No no no!! I would not share my pickles! This is a competition. My idea ... My creativity... My costume ... MY PICKLES.

  • @senju451
    @senju451 10 месяцев назад +8

    Bianca was tired of their BS!

  • @rainyraelyn9649
    @rainyraelyn9649 10 месяцев назад +3

    I thought this was fun 😂

  • @kimc.9423
    @kimc.9423 10 месяцев назад +6

    I feel that Tyra should need to do each photoshoot as the models are doing as well. To show that she too would do it and show an example how she would do it. Either she does the photoshoot before the girls arrive for theirs and before showing off the girls photos, she shows her photoshoot first. That I have felt she should be doing since the show started. Be a role model and do what you're making the other girls do as well. The one photoshoot that ticked me off was the pool incident where the girls were so cold and was forced to do so and 1-2 of them deals with cold differently due to body differences and the one was so frozen that she couldn't move but was shammed for not speaking up earlier, but she did by stating it was too cold. But she would have been shamed if she had stopped and spoken up as told.

  • @GoreChick
    @GoreChick 10 месяцев назад +5

    So Tyra is basically saying that it's expected of Bianca to put herself in humiliating situations because she's way lower in rank than alot of other models and celebrities? So when you get to the same rank as Beyonce, you can turn down humiliating stuff?

  • @scrappydeux
    @scrappydeux 10 месяцев назад +4

    Also its weird that they brought back these tv personalities that people know of, drove them down Hollywood and complained about them getting distracted like the irony is burning a hole through my chest

  • @KevinOt2
    @KevinOt2 10 месяцев назад +3

    Yesss the Jessica 's réaction is priceless and i completely With Bianca she stand up for herself

  • @plenilunioabisal
    @plenilunioabisal 10 месяцев назад +6

    Jessica, I really enjoy watching your videos, I think you’re so funny and entertaining, love your jokes 😂❤ and you’re one of the few creators who I like to watch sponsorships from, even though I’m not a photographer 😅

  • @alisonbender8575
    @alisonbender8575 10 месяцев назад +6

    Alison saying ‘I’m mostly hungry’ makes me feel like she wants to eat one but she ALSO wants one for her shoot so I think Bianca was right to keep them to herself

  • @pinkesthibiscus
    @pinkesthibiscus 10 месяцев назад +7

    yess been excitedly waiting for this!

  • @smoothsketch
    @smoothsketch 10 месяцев назад +4

    @12:30 re sharing pickles, no. The other lady on bottom right has a styrofoam tray with food on it, so there's food available to everyone. If the entire jar will be in the shoot then the jar would look better full. Other models can wait until she's done with her shoot if they want a pickle.

    • @AngelicaAngel888_
      @AngelicaAngel888_ 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I'm pretty sure she shared them once her shoot was done.

  • @SheepasaurusRex
    @SheepasaurusRex 10 месяцев назад +13

    tyra: you're not beyonce
    also tyra: there are so many girls out there who see you and say "that's me"
    ma'am WHAT