ANTM Judges PUNISH Model For Crying Over Makeover
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What do you think about my theory? ALSO, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT?!?!! WE NEED TO KNOW.
I totally agree, 100%. They do that same tactic every time whenever a model defend themselves or speak up against the judges.
Edit: Sorry. I forgot to answer the follow-up question. What I'm thinking about is, "Why does this show ever existed?"
100% accurate. theyre all on a power trip
I Luv and also hate how Tyra is so random with the tips, like making noises and literally "giving nothing" for the models to improve.
I agree, I don't know how they didn't put Allison in the bottom because she complained about being called Alien. I was thinking about getting a chicken pie hahaha
Nigel, I'm thinking about your fake posh accent.
I'm thinking "I'm really sorry I ever watched this show!" Thanks for doing these videos and highlighting what is wrong with this show.
I'm convinced the makeovers are meant to take away exactly what makes the girls feel unique/comfortable about their looks 🙄🙄
In the German version, I was convinced they did it specifically to make the gorgeous girls look uglier than Heidi Klum
Ask Jaeda
@@empressfreya9872 Really? Gotta watch it 😂
On the contrary. They always tried to make the girls look edgy and unique. Majority of the girls love their makeovers. There's just one or two that doesn't like it.
@@royery Not that they had much of a choice anyway 😅
Why does re-watching ANTM feel like reading about crazy unethical psychology studies from the 60s/70s.
That's exactly how it feels watching it again! I didn't know how to put it, but this is it!!!
The 1860s
BROOOOOOO
Yes! As a kid I don't know why I thought it was ok. I never liked Tyra but I didn't realise how the challenges were made to humiliate the girls.
That's probably where they got their ideas.
She wouldn’t have cried about the haircut during the photo shoot if Mr Jay hadn’t asked her how she felt about it in the middle of the photo shoot. Especially since he already knew how she felt about it prior to the photo shoot. He was trying to bring the reaction out of her. It was planned from the beginning.
OMG THIS!!! Like I’m sorry, if you KNOW that someone is upset about something then you bring it up on set and demand that person talk about it, it is not THEIR FAULT if they have an emotional reaction! Mr Jay knew what he was doing and Nigel knew what he was doing when he described it as her just randomly crying on set instead of being deliberately provoked. Then they put her in the bottom 2. Even though she was obviously trying her hardest to be professional and submissive to Tyra’s will. These people are monsters
Totally. The judges made it sound like she started crying in the middle of the photoshoot without a reason. Mr Jay made her cry ffs
@@deniseeliza1 Becuase PRODUCTION TOLD THEM TO ASK THIS THINGSX TO BE SASSYY AND MEAN. THIS IS A PRODUCTION PROBLEM, HENCE WHY MISTER JAY IN LATER SEASONS WAS FED UP WITH THEM AND WANTED OUT.
@@marj7306 So true, and she wasn't even "crying" that much, just a little upset because she was asked a sensitive question.
Like when my dad asks if I’m going to cry and because he asked, now I’m going to end up crying
i always hate when they’re like “hair grows back” like yes it does, but for some of these girls it’ll take like YEARS for it to get back to its original length. They’re not crazy for freaking out about such a drastic change and i hate when anyone acts like they are.
Sometimes it doesn't grow back too; the slightest change in your hormones or medication can mean that it doesn't grow back the same.
When I cut my hair off. It took over two years of mullet-y hair to grow a pixie cut into a bob. 5 years in total to get to the middle of my back. It was the worst. Never doing that again, even if the pixie was cute.
This show made me want to yank off Tyra's fake weave then cut off her braids so I could say "iT'Ll gRoW bAcK"
Yeah but it's not just about that. Your hairstyle is often connected to your identity. They basically strip them of everything that makes them who they are. They are not even allowed to show some personality in their outfits during judging. It's like they're breaking them down to reshape them into something else. You know who else does that? Cult-leaders.
When I was a kid my hair was super long and then in 6th grade I cut it shoulder length and then realised I absolutely hated it but it took all the way until high school to get back to the length it was. Now it goes all the way to my knees because I flatly refused to even get my hair trimmed for like 6 years. It makes me so mad that they’re being so flippant about hair just cause it “grows back”
I honestly feel like what bothers me the most about the makeovers is that they take away consent from the girls. Consent is extremely important even outside of a sexual context. This show sends a message that it’s okay for people to violate your boundaries and that consent means nothing when it comes to your job. Not okay.
Nah,the wannabe models sign a contract.
Complicated. Yeah, they have consent, and can say no, and should say no since stylist and wigs exist. Reality tv will use it as a point, and show that while they had consent, they don't agree, which teaches that you just have to do what they say, which is wrong
@@ethrim If someone knows they will be punished for saying no then they don’t have consent. Period. The fact that a punishment exists interferes with their consent and therefore influences their decision. That’s not consent. That’s coercive behavior.
They consented by signing the top model contract.
@@killer_queen-em5nl I mean they can say no and leave. They knew that they'd have to do things they don't want to. It's work.
"I have never had a girl do a photoshoot and cry about her makeover" EXCUSE YOU? There's like three every season that cry about their makeovers! There was even that one girl in the earlier seasons that left the show because they cut her hair short and Tyra wanted it even shorter.
In general a lot supermodels new look became a stars.
@@visualbeauty3427 Tyra is that you?? Lol but seriously... You've literally commented on every single comment defending the horrible things this show put these young women through 🙄
She end up winning in the end. She married Stephen Amell aka Green arrow.
Or what about the girl who had red hair and then had hair extensions put in all wrong and was painful. She said she was in pain. Nobody would listen because it was a top hair stylist that could never be wrong in styling. SHE WAS IN PAIN. They still kept attacking her for speaking up.
And she literally only cried about it because Jay ASKED HER how she felt about it! Wtf kind of gaslighting was that!?
Tyra loves cutting girls' hair off then criticising them for not being grateful, meanwhile she always has a head full of luscious, long hair that she's paid to have attached to her head. She bullies the girls on her show and uses them to deal with her own issues.
Technically the last season Tyra did a pixie cut for the whole season. Half a year later though she did get extensions put in base on her Instagram I believe.
I was just about to say that. I've NEVER seen tyra in short hair. Not during her entire modeling career nor on this show or her talk show. Comment above me says they saw her in a pixie for a season so I guess she has worn her hair short for at least 8 weeks at one time. Otherwise she has these ridiculously long fluffy weaves in always. Still to this day she has a long fluffy weave on the most recent time I saw her. So she is happy to cut off other models hair but keeps her own long just like all the other top female models. Naomi, cindy, cara, kendall, the Hadids, Linda, Lauren, Claudia, Elle...they all have long luscious hair.
I think she has major jealousy issues she can't stand somebody being prettier or stand out in anyway🤷🏻♀️
@@279Blackcat, when Tyra did have that short hairstyle (like Demi Moore in Ghost), she looked ugly as hell, IMO. I never thought she was very attractive, anyway.
they literally tell the girls they have to look like what other people want. but bro thats what hair and makeup artists are for, they can look how they want in their normal life....
Exactly!!!!
Yes, but...in real life models will have their hair cut on set. It is part of the job.
@@carr0760 lol no
@@Daisy-Doo No? Then why did 9 models have to get drastic cut and colour jobs for a 2018 Marc Jacobs fashion show? That's just one example I found in a 5 second Google search. It happens.
Actors change their hair for roles. Models change their hair for jobs.
@@carr0760 yeah great point especially 90s ( Linda Evangelista) was the iconic short hair to became huge.
I remember having no understanding or sympathy for why anyone would cry from a haircut, when I watched this show as a teen. Laughing at the fragility along with the judges. The narrative of these women being ridiculous, immature, vain for wanting any autonomy was really pushed hard on the show. I definitely internalized some misogyny. "I'm not like those women (cause being like that would be unacceptable)".
Now I realize that it's not just about hair. It's about self expression, the right to chose what happens to your body, being able to recognize yourself, having your boundaries respected, the loss of control, the societal expectations, the consequences of not performing femininity, how much work can go into hair, the years of progress that disappear and having to start over.
The really treated the women as mannequins, and aggressively called out any deviating behavior from being just that. Insane. Honestly, after having seen breakdown after breakdown, I'm at a point where I would be surprised if no one came out from ANTM with genuine trauma
You said it 🙌🏻
Yep. Me too. I can relate to your experiance of the show at the time and the reality of how wrong my view was, now. 👏🏾
'They really treated the women as mannequins" that is the point. Models are moving mannequins for advertising. It is their job to sell a product with their body as an alternative to a hanger, hair included. If their customer wants xyz, they do xyz or the job goes to someone else.
@@SharonVeeLee Models can (and should) refuse contracts that includes clauses they don't agree with. It can be about wages, the use of their image/photos in certain circumstances, the work conditions and of course their personal boundaries. This is how those debuting models will accept anything, including things they are not comfortable with, because "that's the job" and because they fear that they won't get employed when in fact they are just ridding the slippery slope to exploitation.
Just like a model can specify they won't work in the nude, that their image can't be used for "adult funtime" publications, they can also say they don't want something as simple as getting their hair cut.
Either the employer will accept those conditions or they won't but these women are entilted their body autonomy. They are not objects that will be shelved out at the end of the photoshoot but people who will go home and live their life.
@@AtMyBorders but if they accept the contract of work they are legally bound to work according to it or be let go. Yes models should say no to what they disagree with but you can't sign off that you will do something, not do it, and then get mad when you get booted. It absolutely needs to be addressed that there are agencies that take advantage of new models but there needs to be education and responsibility on the model's part too.
With ANTM they agreed to be on the show, they knew what was expected of them when they were accepted. It's like being hired at Hooters and then being mad that you have ro wear the booty shorts.
Mr.Jay tried so hard to throw Tyra and the producers under the bus with his book and live chats. But he was just as bad if not worst then them with his smug faces and sarcastic comments, half the time discouraging the models in the middle of the shoot!!!
And he acted like he did nothing wrong
Agreed; I feel sick to my stomach watching him because he seems to take such warped pleasure from tormenting and emotionally abusing and manipulating these young women
@@thylionheart I bet he had a rush of endorphins every time he got one of them to cry on set
He’s the worst
Wowow. The nerve to make a book. Thank goodness this is the first (and hopefully last) time I ever heard about this
Another theory:
The girls whose eyes are “dead” or “not giving anything” always have dark brown eyes and are black.
Yet vibrant eyes and expressions are given to blonde women or women with blue, green or hazel eyes. Extra points if the model has a stronger contrast between her skin color and her eye color
Agree!!! The most ironic thing is...if the lighting was better for this shot, the true pigment of the brown eyes would appear instead of them looking "black".
100000000%
Exactly. Like the model could be super expressive with their face and eyes but if they are black or brown they are dull?
Agreed, though I know there were a few instances were they’ve said someone with blue eyes had dead eyes, first one that came to one is Katherine from cycle 6 during the bald shoot and another one is Kara from cycle 13 during the scarf shoot, so I know it can happen, but they rarely say it to them compared to most brown eyed contestants smh
Yes, 100% and within that the colorism on this show was awful.
When Tyra use to model, she probably tried to complain about things that were happening to her and was told to shut up. So she created this show to make others experience what she went through for her own enjoyment. You can only be a model if you suffered like Tyra suffered.
Yeah, major clients in a big cities have disgusted attitude in general, i mean if you're a model you have to handle situation.
So that's just "I've suffered for BS reasons in this job. So now you have to suffer as well. Actively trying to change and stop this never ending cycle is spoiling people.
Obviously, she lied and exaggerated about how she used to be treated and bullied by other supermodels as well as the industry. She knew exactly how to brand herself and that shows through her interviews and throughout this show. Everything she does or says is to lie and cover how awful she truly is. If you have been bullied before you would grow out of it and become a better person as life keeps up, but clearly she is just as evil as she could possibly be. Being bullied in the past doesn't give you a free ticket or excuse to the whole world of gaslighting and manipulation, especially to other girls who look up to you and a lot of them are really young girls. I mean, she is just one really mean bully and delusional human being, and she is only getting worse but not the other way around. You shouldn't believe a word she says.
I still believe Naomi Campbell never bullied Tyra.
Tyra was the one who bullied her first then she got upset when Naomi stood up for herself. Part of me still wishes she got to beat her with her blackberry phone lol
This makes so much sense.
Even though Fo didn't like her makeover at first, she was able to adapt to it and kept her short for years (ex: Usher - "Good Kisser") until she grew her hair out, and now it's long and curly and she is still killing it in the modeling world. Go with the Fo. 💖💜💙💚💛
Fo could rock any haircut! I think she looked great with short hair and I was happy that she was able to embrace it eventually! Her curly hair is so gorgeous too! 😍
Go with the Fo! ❤
@@Laramaria2 Same as Linda Evangelista, Omayra, Agyness Deyn, Stella Tenant, Mariacarla Boscono (2006) embrace the punk short hair.
I saw her on an Instagram ad still modeling a few years back and she still had her short hair ❤️
I am glad that Fo eventually did like her hair. I loved it, but Fo had the right not to like her makeover- it's really annoying how the girls were supposed to be robots and never have any opinions about anything.
Yes... she’s the one playing “Porter Millicent Tripp” the winner of the 38th hunger games in those posters. She looks stunning in those and rocks a halo brace.
Jay absolutely upset her on purpose so they could bash her for getting upset. The intention was so clear to me
Exactly. That was a set-up, and not even slighly hiding it.
Absolutely cruel!
It’s so dark.
This happens at least once EVERY season. A model cries over their makeover and Tyra and Jay and the others tell the model to deal with it because the industry says so.
Yeah, wasn't there a blonde girl who didn't like her makeover? They wanted to give her "Rosemary's Baby" hair.
Models are blank canvases. If you like to be creative with your look,be an artist or something else.
@@8ONJO55 hmm
@@heatherduke5410 I’m pretty sure she actually LEFT THE SHOW bc they chopped and bleached her hair and then Tyra said it wasn’t short enough and she refused to go shorter.
@@carissashepard7072 She did! I forget though, if she left the show because of the haircut(which was already short, and they wanted to go even shorter) or because they did a photoshoot that made her kind of scared because she was afraid of heights. They were pretty high up. But Tyra and co were definitely bent out of shape that she didn't want to cut her hair more.
Wigs exist. They didn't have to intentionally ruin her self confidence, then judge her for being upset. If they want her to look different everyday, get her some wigs. Basic.
And If They Put Extensions When They Want Her Hair Longer, It's Gonna Look Terrible. They Would Have To Put Wigs Any Damn Way So Why Do All That?. Cuz They Wanted To Break Her 💯
Which is even more dumb because each photoshoot , especially the drastic "couture" ones , they give them wigs or extensions or change their hair.
So why do you need to give them makeovers you KNOW they won't like just for emotional abuse.
“Wigs exist” AMEN! Exactly!
Back then, weaves were more popular, and front lace wasn't that much known
Also they’re pretending that Fo randomly started crying in the middle of the shoot and stopped everything, when Jay was the one who stopped the photo shoot, prompted her to cry, made her feel like it was all on her, and then almost got eliminated for it.
I know this isn't the focus of the video, but it's honestly a crime that Allison didn't win either season she was on.
Cycle 12 or 17?
@@visualbeauty3427 Both
@@tinabelcher3722 Teyona is great compared Allison but if compared to Gemma Ward her finale walk in cycle 12 maybe not be the best imo, but Teyona 🔥🔥slayed in hell down that's why Oliver Twinx stan Teyona.
Yeah but at the same time it was probably a blessing for Allison to not win. She's more comfortable behind the camera.
To Nigel:
I'm thinking about how disappointed I am that my younger self had such a huge crush on you
_but my adult self is so repulsed you actually were a crappy guy the whole time._
Thanks for that. 👍🏽
You just found your light 😂
@@MrCheesecake1928 i wish i kept my night light , dammit! 🤦🏽♀️😭
😆😅😅
As a stage actor I can say that it is possible to feel the light. They emit warmth.
But....in this case there is no light until he presses the camera shutter, and then it's gone in a literal flash, so no...there was no hope in hell of them feeling the light. They couldn't even SEE where it was, let alone feel it.
Reach out with your feelings young Skywalker
I was going to say the same thing. That's why ice cream is mashed potatos. The light emits warmth. It is the extra flash that comes you can't feel.
Later on in season London is BODY SHAMED for gaining weight and then was eliminated. I would love to see you react to that episode. When they did a photshoot with Ciara she was told to change her eating habits.
Was London one of the ladies with a history of an eating disorder? I feel like she was.
@@MK-gv1wd yes she was
@@alkebuluanmerriweather3123 my god. The judges and the like were such assholes.
London was so fine too . GORGEOUS !! one of the better models and I loved her body . idk if it’s because I grew up in the “slim thick” era but it was always fine to me .
That’s especially surprising considering that Tyra Banks fought Victoria’s Secret for discriminating against her for her weight and WON. If anything Tyra should be trying to use that accomplishment to empower others.
Jay: How could she not like her new hair? Also Jay: * has the same hair for like 10years *
It makes sense that she’s crying about her hair. I always 🤦♀️ when people say “hair grows back”. Yeah by the time I’m 40! Hair doesn’t grow back in a day. And even if you discount the impact on a person’s identity and mental health of forcing such a haircut, the amount of time it takes to grow back hair to a significant length can make up a large proportion of a model’s career. I have worked with an agency before in London. Yes, it’s true that you “don’t look how you want to look” but that is limited to short term changes- eg you may have a makeup look that you don’t like, but you can wash that off! When it comes to significant changes, and this even includes less Long term stuff like hair colouring, they always discuss in depth with the model to determine if that change will be good for their career as a whole for the next few years. And if the model herself is too uncomfortable with it usually such requests (clients wanting to cut a models hair short for instance) are declined. Also it is very unlikely that a client will ask an agency if they can give a model a pixie cut. Agencies have models that already have short hair and it’s much easier for both the client, the model and the agency to just choose a model who already has the look you want. Usually these requests come with very famous models - they want a famous face but with a different hairstyle. But in those cases most of the time they will use wigs and prosthetics. Nowadays these props are so well made that there is no need to shave a model’s head or cut her hair. It seems like they don’t care about how the industry actually works and rather care about making shocking scenes for television.
Thank you so much for sharing this!! Very insightful!!
also, not everyone's hair grows at the same rate! I can have a pixie cut one year and the next year it will be down to my shoulders. I regularly do this just because I feel like it. My friend can work hard and grow her hair, take supplements and products and it would be 2 years before she gains 2 inches of length. Her hair just doesn't grow fast. For people saying that hair grows back, they must have hair like mine that grows like a weed. not everyone is in the same boat. Plus, I choose when, where, and how my hair is cut, no one else is choosing for me. That makes a huge difference!
My theory is that Tyra sold her soul in every way for this job and that’s why she made it so far, and now she thinks everyone must operate that way even if they’re not that hardcore
I've done a few runway shows where I have had the most hideous makeup ever. But that just washes off. You just suck it up for that couple hours or whatever and then move on with your life. She's acting like people are going to insist you have to look a certain way, definitely at your agent may suggest certain changes to make you a little more marketable, but those are just suggestions. When they cast for a shoot, if they're looking for a blonde, they're just not going to book you if you're not blonde. No one's going to force you to cut or dye your hair it's just so ridiculous.
Not to mention there are some pretty nice Wigs that exist if they are that adamant about having a specific model
Yea on this show they force them. If you do want to a show for someone in particular and they like you they will ask you cut your hair for the shoot/runway and guess what if the model doesn’t want to do it then she won’t do the job. The people will not force the model to cut their hair they just won’t book them. In this show they have no choice at all
I don't like when they make fun of the girls outfits. Most of these girls are teens who likely couldn't afford to go out and buy a new wardrobe before coming on show. Not to mention, who hasn't looked back on pictures of yourself as a teen and cringed at some of your fashion choices?
They wasn’t teens they was in their 20’s
@@millymilly8264
Look it up on the wiki alot of them were 18-20 in cycle 12
I feel like Tyra, being the lead producer, needs to apologize to everyone for the things they put the people through and the horrible things that were said. I have no doubt that there’s people in the industry that do say things like that but Tyra didn’t have to “play” into it. If she’s such a leader, she should be doing this show respectfully and wanted to build confidence.
Fo’s hair did look super cute on her but she should be happy and comfortable with the makeover too. I wish they had more say in their makeovers.
It was always the same. They signed up knowing what the show was like.
Not to mention the makeovers were so fresh, if you do a drastic change like that it takes a little while to get used to it.
Thanks for calling out the bullying, Jessica. I watched many of these seasons when they came out and didn't pick up on this. Dealing with "mean girls" at work and just makes me feel sad that adults can have this kind of power over others and get away with it, get paid, get celebrated....be successful, while others, trying so hard to do what's asked, suffer.
Or maybe sued them.
Same.
“I’ve never had a girl cry over a makeover” huh? Tyra really does have memory problems, because MANY girls have cried during makeovers.
Every season there's like 9 that cry during it. In season 7 Jay Manuel went mad 'cause half of girls hated their makeovers
I hate that Tyra used "that day" because, like you said, the haircut is permanent. She's going to have to adapt every look to this hair color and cut Normal models don't have to do that. They decide their own haircuts
As someone who's worked in theatre lighting, I would never expect an actor to know how to light themselves. To understand where their light is once everything is set, yes, but to actually light themselves? I get that this is a challenge, but it's near impossible to light yourself while still being present in the shot/scene etc. You need that front on perspective from a photographer/designer/director etc, to be able to see how well-rounded the whole shot is from an audience perspective. I can't see how they can expect balanced composition/shadow that's remotely flattering when these girls are having to hold lights so close to themselves.
Nigel: “what are you thinking about?”
Me: “idk I need to clean the bathroom I guess?”
I would have said serial killers.
Fo didn’t just begin to cry or complain about her makeover on set - it wasn’t her who mentioned it, but Jay asking quite cutting, insensitive and personal questions as to whether it makes her feel less feminine. In a highly pressurised situation, in front of others when she may already feel insecure, to ask about her new look in such a way is bound to make her uncomfortable and upset. For Nigel to bring it up to Tyra like he did, and for Tyra to respond in that manner, is totally unfair and unjustified - Fo didn’t deserve that at all. Just another excuse to create drama for the show, and add more stress for the models.
Used to watch this back in the day, but never realised how borderline abusive some of the comments and behaviours were - and that’s the JUDGES and so called “professionals” behaving that way. Disgusting that they could get away with this tbh.
Fo is out here thriving now. I’m so happy for her. They really treated her wrong on ANTM.
I really hate them saying things like "once you are a model, your body is no longer yours". Hell no! You hire a model because of how good (s)he is, not to do them a favor. They are your business partners, not some diy kits you recreate and use however you like.
As for the panel, I must say I like Nigel and Paulina. Their comments are the most reasonable and have a point. It's been a while since I really watched the show, but I don't remember them actually humiliating those girls in front of everyone. But, you know, Tyra's rules... :/
Definitely plays into rape culture
I'll never forget Paulina going up to Celia, taking her out of the middle of her shoot, and telling her she's too old to start modeling.
I'm pretty sure that Nigel left the show because he was being too reasonable with the models, not here of course but more towards the end of his stay.
That's my theory.
@@matxalenc8410, absolutely, that was one of her worst, & there weren't witnesses like there are when she said awful insults to Katarzyna 2 cycles before at panel.
Paulina was so terribly callous on this show. I laughed for days at her reaction to being left nothing in her ex's will. Oh, how the mighty had fallen!
@@matxalenc8410 Celia has a hateable face, and I don't know why.
I always dreaded it when Nolé Marin would judge. He was so mean every time.
When Jay literally asked her about the makeover and dug into personal stuff, then Nigel was like "can you believe she cried about her makeover at set!" Excuse me??!
Thank you so much for calling out the bad behavior and standing up for these women. It's honestly empowering and such a contrast to the show, where all that toxicity went unchallenged. I feel so bad for the models for going through this and giving the judges weight.
Can you react to Dani's instagram where she addresses ANTM pushing her to get dental modification she didn't want?
I think the concept of "the model should know how to find the light" is absolutely something different from what they actually did there because in the photoshoot it was more of "you should know where to put the light". and of course, it absolutely shouldn´t be the job a model does WHILE modelling.
I agree! Models should KNOW where the light is and pose accordingly to the light source, not direct the shot or the lighting 🤦🏻♀️
And..how can you know where the light is and find the light when it literally isn't even there?! There is no light until the flash.
Jay says, "What do I always say to you?!??" Jessica's commentary hahahaha 🤣 "...Umm you're doing awful. You don't know who you are. Do you want to be here?" 😂😂😂 Jessica, you crack me up lol. That's why I love watching these lol.
Fun fact: Fo is one of the most succesfull model in her cycle after the show
Tyra's makeovers were mostly based on what she thought was better for the models. Not what would've really take them "to the next level".
She got some make overs right. But a lot of them were basically Tyra wanting the girls to like like some editorial or high fashion show she might have just watched, or in some cases just wanting to break girls' confidence.
Like you said, if models were doing a haute couture runway and the designer would want everyone with a pixie cut, pink hair or no brows; they wouldn't exactly chop their hair off, dye their hair pink, or shave their brows. They'd use wigs, and if they'd want some androgynous look they'd bleach the brows and then back to normal. And they do this because they know models will do a bunch of different shows for different designers that would want them to look in different ways.
That's why most models go with a simple hair cut, not too long and not too short, and they'll always try to keep their natural hair color as much as possible. Of course there are exceptions, and some models have achieved great levels of success with really short hair or no hair at all (Alek Wek, Silk Woods, Adut, etc). But even they are constantly changing.
The worst examples of Tyra using girls' head for her experiments were Molly when she tried to give her Diana Ross's hair, despite Molly's scalp not being able to handle that much of hair. Or giving girls with black hair, blond hair, that although didn't look bad, but just took a lot of work, and could've been easily achieved with a wig (which Tyra knows since she uses blond wigs all the time)
Great point!
This. I said in another comment that Tyra’s idea of “edgy” seems to differ from the industry’s idea of edgy. All the crazy makeup and hair can be done for shows, but on go-sees, people wanna see the blank canvas.
@@JEPiper i mean depends on your job either you get booked or not
I used to watch this show- I mean I really watched it. I was 8 years old when it first came out and I’ve seen every episode multiple times, of every season. It actually pushed me to be a model from the age of 13 - 20 years old but as a youth, I never noticed how toxic it was! The whole show is truly a reality TV show- pushed narratives, forced drama/tension, favoritism, etc. I can’t believe I never noticed it, but damn as a 26 year old, I see it now. The whole show is toxic 😅
As bad as it may seem, sadly the judges here reflect how agencies treat aspiring models in the past. Its different now since the community has changed but oh man, modelling in the 2000's was not a healthy career. I'm glad that people are speaking out on this kind of treatment. The industry is still TOXIC, but agency is more self aware now than before.
Thanks for the info 💖💖😔
I love how you always defend the models from these judges and Jay’s mean and horrible comments. These models deserved better.
I think that this show was/is one of the biggest examples of emotional and mental bully ever. I totally agree that they knew exactly what they were doing and did it on purpose just for the show, not ever once thinking about how these were actual human beings and would have to live with what they put them through for the rest of their lives, it's just wrong. Thank you for sharing and being so honest and realistic, love your videos ❤❤
I can’t believe I never realized this as a kid I thought it was normal, the girls should have always had final decisions on the make overs and the people on the show could’ve given them SUGGESTIONS but it should have been up to them to decide.
I’m non-binary, and I can FEEL that poor girl’s discomfort, dysphoria, and embarrassment.
I would be MORTIFIED if I had to get in front of a bunch of people and cameras after being made up to look extremely “feminine”, with long curls and a frilly dress, for example, so I can feel her pain over presenting more “masculine” when she’s clearly uncomfortable with it.
I hate this show!! 🤬
No you're not, it's a lies. Leave the cult
My jaw dropped when Tyra said.." When you're a model, "you" don't look like "you" want to look. You look like how people tell you you should look that day!" Hmm so you have to be what others choose for you...so not your authentic self... Great message there🙄🙄
She’s talking about on the job that’s what modeling is. You think every actor acts on set exactly how they do in real life? Then it wouldn’t be acting it would just be being yourself
@@aspenisthebest That's what makeup and hair artists are there for, this make you look like how the client wants you, not for you to alter your appearance permanently
Potato fries cutting your hair isn’t permanent. It grows back
@@aspenisthebest so? It grows back alright but the point is she was forced and was ridiculed for being sad about it.
Potato fries I’m not saying what they did was right. I’m just saying if you take certain jobs or sign with certain agencies they might tell you to cut off your hair and keep it dyed pink. If you have an issue with that then you stay jobless
Wow! They completely manipulated Fo! They asked her how she felt about her makeover, making her cry as a result. Then used it against her in judging. 😑
This program was a perfect example of toxicity and abuse in a workspace
I think ANTM had a significant influence on our generation: the internship generation, the young girls who were told to suck it up on no pay in the hopes they would be recognised and rewarded with a paid job. It captivated us because it was how we lived, and each episode we got the opportunity to run the gauntlet again and again, wondering how we get through and whether we'll ever be rewarded for our loyalty.
That was definitely my experience with my first job.
What Nigel wants to hear: Tyra could do this on a horse while chewing bubblegum .
What I'm really thinking: The standard to which the girls are held to is always much higher than the standard they hold the floor to. That floor is dirty, covered in garbage, incredibly unsexy. These double standards are getting out of hand.
It’s crazy how someone who used to be bullied, becomes a bully. Just pathetic!
Nigel, I'm thinking about how much wood a woodchuck would chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood😉
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I would’ve gotten eliminated the second the show started. I would have asked a bunch of questions
How are they modeling "lights" without seeing an end - product to know what to work towards.
I agree and they didn't even get time to practice beforehand to see how it would look to give them some kind of baseline.
Needed this today. Just put my bestest boy to sleep 2 days ago. I welcome any and all distractions rn
I'm so sorry for your loss.
So sorry for your loss ❤️ Best wishes
Hi Erin, I hope you're doing alright. I'm sorry for your loss. Sending you lots of love ❤️❤️
Thank you … still struggling but I know it was the best decision. He’s no longer in pain and that’s what’s getting me through it.
@@erinwarner3376 I'm sorry to hear that! Also, the fact that Jessica replied to this days after she posted shows that unlike many RUclipsrs, she is reading and reaching out to her followers. So great to see. And again, I hope you're feeling better soon, it's one of the hardest things to experience.
It’s crazy to watch these videos again from years ago. They were extremely unpleasant during panel, so rude. I love the way you get your message across Jessica, so polite. Another great video 😊
This photoshoot really made me realize that they expect these women to model on set with no direction and feedback. And on top of that, Nigel and Jay actually think it’s OKAY to be completely silent and not give any advice. Like how do you expect a model to walk onto set and just automatically understand what you want??
This show is so degrading 😳 I couldn't imagine being treated like that
Jessica, what I love most about your videos is that it’s also an education for any would be models to empower them and show them what they should not put up with. Love your how tos and tutorials too, could watch you content all day!
Why is Tyra still relevant is my question.
She's not. The ratings plummeted when she hosted Dancing with the Stars. People are tired of her.
People grew up loving/being impacted by her shows and are looking back in time to compare what they perceived then, to what we now currently can perceive, when it comes to boundaries, fair collaboration and how social norms and power dynamics have changed for the best since then. Autonomy and fairness, less of a top down hierarchy, are more accepted and prioritized these days
It's crazy watching these clips and watching the judges and Mr. J perfectly model what an abusive relationship looks like.
Jessica needs to react to The Face starring noami Campbell. It's a total opposite to ANTM.
I hope she react it
ANTM contains so many damaging and problematic messages, not only affecting contestants but potentially everyone who watches these shows. I'm sure easily influenced people (like kids) will get the wrong idea with toxic acts being portrayed as "deserved" and "just" when in reality they could never be justified. I'm glad someone calls the damaging and harmful behaviour from the show towards its contestants out!
I get that drama and big emotions sell, but at whose cost? Shows like this should think about the values they convey to their audience.
Though I don't think the judges alone are to blame, there's a script and ppl behind the scenes who let it happen and encourage said behaviour. Don't hate (-just-) the player, hate the game.
Thank you so much for your channel. It is so eye opening. A lot of people did not realize how harmful this show was to these beautiful young ladies. They tried to break their spirits. These are humiliation rituals. Tyra and those judges have no shame and are abusive. They say that this is just the modeling industry. Tyra could have created a show to change the industry and make it better. All she did was bring the same racism, sexism, homophobia, sexual harassment and abuse and physical abuse to her show. I watched the season with Eva the diva and stopped because of how bad she treated those precious ladies. She might of cut the hair and sold it. You never know. She cut a lot of hair of these women. Tyra and her whole crew will get their karma for mistreating these young ladies.
I am so relieved you did these commentary videos on ANTM and you're standing up for these girls. Yes, they are totally getting bullied and the judges are completely irrational & mean. Every comment you make is sooo on-point! I really hope the judges see your videos, they need to be told about themselves, as well as the models, so they can feel better about themselves and know that the public think their treatment was disgraceful.
I wonder how the "Mr. J's" feel now. Have they heard the comments from real photographers, and how bad they were, and mean to these girls. I just wonder if they have had any backlash, for the way they treated these girls.
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The judges send the wrong message when it comes to modeling. They make it seem like EVERYTHING is the model's fault! Even the photo that gets chosen! They basically say 'This is the shot that was chosen. It's not good and that's your fault!'
I am very shocked that I was so obsessed with this show!
As a professional and educator at photography, I totally agree with you. Photographer has huge responsibility to give directive and make images work good. I think by experience that the photographers at the show doesnt want to be blamed for a bad photo. Better give blame to the models who lack experience and knowledge how it works.
In an Oliver Twixt interview I heard fr9m Laura that, on All stars cycle 17, Bianca was eliminated for complaining that they weren’t feeding the girls or something. I can’t remember exactly what it was but something simple like they needed to be fed I believe. Apparently she stood up for all the girls multiple times and they eliminated her because of it.
Congrats on the canva sponsorship!! Its an app many students at my design school use because of how easy it is to use. Not really design friendly, but definitely easy!
Po is absolutely adorable! I cannot stand the judges at all anymore
Not sure how I stumbled on your videos for ANTM but I am LOVING them. You are cracking me up. If you have never seen the spoof “Cleveland’s Next Top Model”, your comments remind me of that funny spoof. I would love to see you comment on THOSE episodes. So fun! Glad I found these videos!! Thanks!
As a model, they would never cut your hair for a photo shoot. Sometimes, you'll have another shoot later that day or the next day and it would be detrimental for you to show up with drastically different hair. Especially, because that might've been a component for them hiring you in the first place. If they want different hair, they'll put a wig on you or style it a certain way. It's part of the psychological and emotional manipulation of this show that they permanently change the girls. I don't think there's ever been a girl on this show who got the short pixie-cut and was happy about it so the people of the show know what they're doing when they assign that style.
Watch Brad Mondo i know he's upset Tara's given look kinda mixed emotion but i love he's entertaining, he's appreciate woman's beauty.
“They ask her a question knowing it will get emotion out of her and then when she responds, they’re just like ‘work it out’”
Sounds like my old therapist
(I have a new one now so we’re all good)
this is so real! why are they like that!! happy you found someone who can really help you though
Any of you guys read Mr. Jay's book? He insists it is all a work of fiction, but I would 100% believe some of that stuff he talks about in the story are real or at least inspired by the real events 🤣
I am shocked that the judges haven't been sued for emotional damage and been blacklisted from the industry... unless anyone knows otherwise please let me know
"You got to feel the light" Ughhhh I can't roll my eyes farther
My eyes are stuck in my brain now
Also, y’all just KNOW the second some model rolled into an ANTM set telling the photographer that they know the best lighting for their angles and bone structure, and told them to set it up a certain way, Tyra and Jay would FLIP OUT on them!!
“How dare you come in here telling us how to do our jobs! You’re the model, so you just sit back and shut up!”
Convince me otherwise… 😂
I am so mad at myself because I did not realize how bad this show really was. Tyra presented herself as the leader and supporter of those girls but in reality she acted like the bitter,jealous "over the hill"(by this toxic industry's standards) wannabe mentor with a "you-will-suffer-as-i-did" flag.
Two things, first, I thought Jessica was talking about the show as a model, didn't know she's a photographer until she mentioned it. Second, I'm starting to think no one on ANTM was good at their jobs.
I feel like Tyra picks her favorites early on and those girls will get the good makeovers. While to make the show entertaining they pick at least 3-4 girls that are going to have bad make overs. Some of the haircuts, weaves have been awful. While another girls looks amazing. They want at least one girl to cry or be upset. If they can get more girls upset it's a win for their production.
I would love to see a video where you recreate some of these shoot concepts. And then do it better. Like the gel light idea
Yes!
While I think that young girl looks stunning in short hair, I really believe empathy-less Tyra should have her hair shaved for hor to stop judging people from her place of privilege.
I’d be gone once they said they were gonna cut all my hair off. Curly hair doesn’t “just grow back”… I haven’t cut my hair in years and it is just now hanging past my shoulders. All of these people should come out and apologize for this awful behavior
Several of the reasons that I stopped watching ANTM. Too much done for drama and mess versus developing young talent to achieve their dream. This episode in particular I totally agree with you about the lighting. I am also a professional photographer and wouldn't imagine asking a client to control the direction of the lights and/ or placement of the lights. There is no need to cut someone's hair for a makeover if they didn't ask for it. Agencies don't ask for hair cuts. They either select a model for their campaigns or not. These are industry professionals behaving like schoolyard bullies for ratings and no real instruction to become a legitimate model.
I think it’s both the job of the photographer , AND the model to work together with the lighting. Models do need to have some clue of what the lighting does to their frame/structure , - so they can pose accordingly but photographers need to be vocal and direct them.
It’s all about working together and communication. 😄
I'm a photographer, its our job to find, shape, use and direct light to a model/subject. That's literally what the word photography means "drawing with light". I don't expect or need models to know anything about light as they are in the scene and can't have the view of it that I do. A model is there to pose and express themselves. agree that communication is vital but as photographers we have the artistic and technical responsibility that models don't and shouldn't be expected to have.
How infuriating that Jay asked fo "do u feel like we took your femininity?" Knowing full well that it was going to upset her....then gave her crap for it at judging! This show is so messed up and I never saw it when I was younger.
"...I found myself focusing on you 😍" Nigel, what I'm thinking about is ...can you not be that creepy?
Tell me I'm not being a paranoid and I'm not the one who felt it .
It would be cool if you would watch some photoshoots from The Face with Naomi Campbell and compared it to ANTM. I would really love to see you talk about that :D
As well as Australia's next top model
As a woman who had long hair (mid back) for more than 20 years, and then lost it all to cancer, I feel for Fo. She is absolutely stunning with her short hair but that kind of subjection and gaslighting in a “competition” is disgusting.
*FO, YOUR BEAUTY COMES FROM THE LIGHT THAT HEAVEN DROPPED IN YOUR HEART. DON’T LET THESE HUMANOIDS DIM YOUR SHINE!*
I hope the models see these videos (and the other critiques of how they were treated like Luxeria's) and see that people support and love them for who they are and that their treatment was not okay.
To punish one of the models for speaking up is not only abusive to them it’s abusive to the other models watching. It shows all of them if you speak up about anything You’ll get in trouble like she did. So abusive
Nigel, I’m thinking about cheese pizza 😂😂😂 I think you are just great Jessica xx
I used to like this show and I actually thought Nigel was one of the good ones. He's just as bad and obnoxious as the rest of them. This show is so dang toxic... But it makes good TV. lol
I absolutely love your breakdowns of this show. I thought it was crazy when it was originally aired. I thought Tyra and her chosen ones as judges were cruel. I lol listening to your comments on ish that bothered me too. Thank you for the laughs and education on photography. ❤
Whenever a girl had the light near her face, I was thinking "well, they told her to find the light, so she did".
I can’t watch this show anymore without your commentary! I’ve seen a lot of your videos on ANTM (I remember when you were doing them with your model friend!) and I gotta say you seem like such a sweetie! I’m sure you would make such a great friend ❤️ your commentary just modernizes the bullshit from ANTM