How Six Flags Chooses its Winners & Losers
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Six Flags is the Discount Chain of parks, but how do they choose who gets the best new additions? This video analyzes each park's circumstance and why they are treated the way they are.
It almost doesn't seem believable that 20 years ago six flags was adding 20 coasters a year😮
Man why couldn't they do that when rmc, b&m and intamin dropped the good shit at iaapa
BLITZN00DLE yep
Tyler Haraf See Maxx Force is short yes, but that launch makes it worth it. Like Goliath (at GreatAmerica) being short felt like half a ride. MF felt like a full, although short, intense ride.
My friend and I also lucked out though with a back row seat.
And next year will be 20 years since St. Louis' last original ride.
Bankruptcy kills.
Six Flags Magic Mountain: *Exists*
California: "I'ma build a bunch of overly priced homes right by it while not even bothering to fix ma highways to counteract the influx of residents and tourists!"
UbinTimor Ikr......me personally, I think that's a stupid move!!! Who in the hell wanna live next to a park with SUPERMAN constantly screeching in your ears?
@@seanlewis1148 It's stupid, but I'm sure there will be a bunch of people willing to live there considering how fucked the housing market is. I don't understand it either, like how are you suppose to live next to constant screaming and the super-sonic booms of Superman? Good luck living there with a newborn or baby, they'll never be able to sleep. And with California Highways already fucked up and ill-prepared for heavy traffic as it is the commute to and from work would have to be at least an hour- maybe even more during the summer.
this is every southern california city with an amusement park. Disneyland exists amd anaheim turns from literally a rural farmland for oranges to a major city. Buena park goes from farmland to populated city because of knotts Berry Farm.
Yeah, it’s almost certain we will see a report from the local news within a few years about people who bought a house next to an amusement park and are now complaining about the noise. I’m sure the next time Magic Mountain adds something big, they’ll complain about it too.
Ty Tarquin it already closes at 6pm
Six flags: you get a S&S free spin! You get an S&S free spin! You all get an S&S free spin!
Have all the S&S Free Spins in the woooorld!
It is good and doesn’t take up much space. Ride one at Great America. I loved it. Hope we get one at SFSL instead of another flat ride.
Just like the boomerang and pendulum ride
David Baines Also Six Flags: Wait Not you Magic Mountain. :)
Or,
S&S: How many freespins do you want?
Six Flags: YES
They all could add park land by building parking garages instead of having huge lots
Very expensive and not worth it unless you're Di$ney
@@complainingperson2883 otherwise they could build a deck above their preferred lots and build a coaster on that. Would look weird but gives shade to preferred parking and they can charge more for it. In Spain preferred parking has a roof for shade
This is true, and so are what people are saying about just how expensive such a project is.
HOWEVER, if we want to pick out not one but TWO particular parks, Six Flags Great Adventure has spent a lot of money to run the park like 70% on solar. So could they really not get a parking garage project going? I mean, that back parking area just never fills at all anymore-people carpool, walk in, take taxi/lyft/uber/etc too much for that.
But let me mention Great America. For all the money they've spent constantly getting new coasters the entire last decade, they could use to slow down and redo their kid's sections, clean up the waterpark, at least paint revolution or (even though i like the old style cause it spins so much faster) replace with a zamperla giant discovery. Only one of those things has any real cost. They can get some kind of raptor at some point, but hold off and build a parking garage. Landlocked? Yeah, with all of the compact types available they could put there, or just build in general like how goliath and maxx force are, they'd have A TON OF SPACE. A long term plan over a short term applied to there would turnover a much better end result. Once they have barely any room they'll return to alienating people (like when they removed shockwave out of nowhere) or be trying to shove stuff and honestly right now nothing really looks shoved in or messy to me (aside from those kid's sections-2021 please fix that!).
A bunch of these parks are located near large cities, sometimes in between two cities. Wish the governments would explore transit options, especially train services, which would be cheaper than the combination option of garages and highways (rebuilds or widenings). Would be amazing for those parks in between two cities since it won't then just be a train service that runs only if the park is open; it's just a stop along the way to other 24/7/365 destinations.
C'mon now, you live in america, dont act as if y'all dont have enough space,
Six Flags: Over Texas is my home park, and I really don’t know why it isn’t much bigger. Not only is the park in corporate’s backyard, not only is it the original Six Flags park, not only are there a couple rides they could easily tear out and replace, but the DFW area even has population trend lines that should cause management at Six Flags to take notice
Just move the focus from Fiesta Texas to Over Texas
Thank you! We need a good coaster man. When I think TITAN is my favorite coaster out of the... 2 parks I've been to lately... there's a problem!
Fiesta Texas is my home park, with the current trend of a non-clone, original coaster every 2-3 years since 2013, we are doing very good. But Idk why Over Texas isn’t getting more investment, sorry about that you guys:(
I look at it this way, San Antonio/Austin/The Hill Country is THE tourist destination of Texas. They can talk about their population center all they want but SO many people go to that area for all kinds of other activities. The only major non water park in the state that Six Flags doesn't own is in San Antonio(Sea World) as is the Riverwalk and the Alamo to say nothing of the tourist sights up in Austin. And if you look at that trend line chart it's not just SA that's growing like crazy but Austin is as well. Dallas/Ft Worth is huge and growing too but it's not exactly a tourist destination. I've lived off and on in the Houston area over the last decade and outside of SFOT or HH water park I struggle to think what I might want to see in that area on a vacation. South Fork Ranch maybe? No disrespect intended because Houston is a lot like that too. Houston has the 4th largest metro area in the entire country behind only NY LA and Chicago and it wasn't enough to keep Astroworld open. And yes there are all the usual things a city the size of Houston has like pro sports, museums, ballet and opera venues and what not but people just don't come to the Houston area for a vacation that I can see.
There is another factor in play as well IMO. SFOT and SFOG aren't OWNED by Six Flags. They run the parks but the parks are actually owned by investor groups and that has to be a headache. In fact I know it's is because the investor group has sued corporate over under performance at SFOG in the past.
Honestly the whole company is kind of this mess of competing interests and managerial styles and identities. I've been to Sea World Orlando, Busch Gardens Tampa and Busch Gardens Williamsburg and those parks are a lot more coherent in their theming and their mission focus to me. They also aren't spreading themselves too thin by trying to run too many parks, expanding too quickly or putting in subpar coasters and flat rides just for the sake of having something new. They have a brand and they stick with it. That whole black fish thing screwed them up for awhile but they seem to be getting that stuff ironed out for the future.
They could take titan out and add a b&m hyper because it’s been having problems ppl would say why not a giga but no giga because their not ceader fair
“Next is one that is one that has recently fallen out of the top, and that’s great adventure”
Six flags: Not for long
First ground up coaster since 2007 besides the free spin. Doubt we will get anything else
When your park is ranked the lowest of lowest, of the lows...
_sad coaster noises_
I went to Great Escape last year. I really liked it (Aside from Canyon Blaster and the food options). In fact, I think that it is a mid-tier Six Flags Park (Above St Louis, La Ronde, Frontier City, Darien Lake, Discovery Kingdom, and America), in spite of it not getting investments.
Darien Lake has a nice atmosphere and a far better coaster collection than Great Escape. But both are still great parks. I just don't think Great Escape really beats Darien Lake or even St. Louis. But like I said, still a great place. The only bad Six Flags park is La Ronde.
Great Escape looks like a great park. It's just not in an area that'd justify development on par with a park like Great Adventure.
@@reillywalker195 I believe that in terms of rankings, Great Escape is extremely underrated.
Great Escape is fine. This guy bandwagons. Easy to tell.
Six Flags America is literally 3 miles from my house but I go to Great Adventure if I want to go to a Six Flags. Also the season pass at Six Flags America is significantly cheaper than if you bought one at Great Adventure AND six flags season pass works at any of their parks
@ColdplayFan360 RollerCoasterFreak they really need to work on their customer service and roller coasters. They always get neglected
SFA was never the same after the company went bankrupt. It was as if they were going to sell it off, but kept deciding not to last minute with the hopes that they could at least hold on another year.
It’s my closest six flags park but I consider Kings Dominion to be my home park.
Dusk Raccoon Six Flags has made some questionable choices in their time, and what they’ve done to America makes no sense.
Great Escape and Frontier City should just be small local parks.
We only have three good coasters joker and Superman and the wild one
Great Adventure should be putting in more thrill coasters, they have the potential to be the most attended park in the chain considering they haven’t been adding very exciting additions but still manage to beat out Great America in popularity. I think GAdv is going to be back to coasters again which I’m excited for.
I agree. Great adventure a great park but there issue is they keep putting in small rides or rides U see at other parks
I wish this video was made after the six flags announcement video cause sfga is getting the jersey devil.
Going over numbers Great Adventure and Magic Mountain are pretty much always neck and neck with yearly guests. They usually pass each other several times during the year.
Having SF St. Louis as a home park is painful. I love the hell out of that park just cause I grew up there but most of the rides are 20+ years old and pretty worn down. Most people I know have given up hope of ever getting anything interesting. It’s been 5 years since we even got a shitty, secondhand boomerang so I think that illustrates just how much interest they have in our park. It’s unfortunate since a lot of people in the area have nothing better to do during the summer months. With even a little bit of effort they could really boost their numbers :/
Yeah, I seriously can't imagine what anyone is ever thinking with that park. Yeah, the Cedar Fair ones not so far away in the state actually get it worse, even if one can compare/contrast the coasters they have now. However. St. Louis. Staffing issues but they just keep shoving in a new flat ride every year? How about removing Ninja (I am literally NEVER for removing those vekoma/arrow loopers, but that thing is horrible for it's own building history and in general)? Stop wasting money and manpower on running it? Replace it with a RMC raptor. There delusional if they don't believe that'll increase attendance. Why doesn't it have a free spin yet? The rides-too many are always closed, or declined incredibly. Remove a few. I loved Exalibur when it was "Evolution" at SFGADV for a couple years, but why do they keep pouring endless amounts of money into it? It's a moneypit, and SFGADV knew it-they experimented and said nope, St. Louis it's like there lovechild they refuse to stop with.
I will admit whether it's money or not, I am happy they haven't and probably won't RMC "The Boss" as I think it's great,
but they need A WHOLE NEW PLAN and priorities. I feel like the only reason why six flags as a whole still owns it is because they built it ground up.
At least it's not the great Escape
OneAndOnlySound they could easily remove Excalibur, Ninja, and Boomerang, and I don’t think anyone would be sad about it. They all suck
Hey Cedar Fair is not so great either. My home park is Valley Fair. You would think that the Cedar Fair company would be more considerate towards the first park it acquired and helped create its company name. But we havent gotten a new coaster since Renegade in 2007.
@@kayleg1861 They could also remove that stupid ass tidal wave ride in the corner of the park near sky screamer. It is literally almost never open and its just a far worse version of the log flume except it gets you more wet. The reason the attendance is so low is because people are bored of the park. Add something new and watch how much the numbers go up. Add the raptor and RMC the boss and SFSL would be amazing.
7:14 that is an absolutely monstrous amount of parking lot.
Me: Magic mountain and six flags great adventure are the top
“The other coaster in the top teir is Great America”
Me “WHAT???”
I wasnt ready for it lol
Dylan Perry This was exactly what was going through my mind. And I was at Great America less than a week ago.
GA has a lot of guests for a smaller market compared to the rest of the Top 5, and generally gets much nicer stuff than even GrAv
It just has a lot there, and SF likes giving it the good stuff
Before Jersey devil we have one good the rest our sucky or just okay
I was thinking the same
great america is definitely in the top 3
Personally, I think they are smart to always add something new each year. They always keep interest in the parks. For me as a kid it made me want to go back every year, and with their coke can promotion you could get discounted tickets. Even if a park gets the same cookie cutter model, there is the benefit to doing that. By having the same model, it makes it easier to have parts available when you need them, or put those rides on "ride rotation." Ride rotation meaning, moving the flat rides around to different parks every so many years. You can tell which parks are favored, simply by number of coasters. I do remember in the 90's Six Flags was in a battle with Ceder Fair by having the largest number of coasters in a park. This is why Magic Mountain had Psyclone and Flashback in their parks, just so they could have naming rights (both of those rides made you feel PAIN).
Six Flags Great America is the most profitable park in the chain, based on the awards from Corporate in the human resource building
Zuper ha
yeah but fright-fest is wack
@@Toca_Moca after years it gets boring
@@Toca_Moca yeah tbh I sent them an e-mail about improving the spookyness cause for people who barely go it is fun
@@adrianvarela2216 budget cuts. Lol
I actually really like Great Escape. I’ve been there a few times, and I’ve enjoyed it every time I went. It’s a really nice park in my opinion, and pretty underrated as well.
Ds Freaks9900 no it sucks half the rides suck
@@nightisright1873 The fact the rides arent the best doesnt mean a park is bad. Dont judge a park just on its coasters. Im sure the guy likes the park because of the scenery and atmosphere, not because of the coasters
If you go into Great Escape dont expect a Six Flags park. Expect a more family park with a bit of Six Flags scattered around.
It's more of a family park if you want to have the most fun go to darrien lake or go to great adventure
When your home park is the best of the worst: *I don't know how to feel, there are so many emotions*
Been going to Great Escape as a kid before Six flags took over on our annual vacations to the Lake George area. I loved the park and felt like it had so much charm. I haven’t been back in years though because I feel like Six Flags got rid of a lot of its charm. Even though the area is not very populated it does attract a lot of tourists in the summer season from the tri state area as well as further North and Vermont and into Canada. It has a lot of potential and it’s sad that there hasn’t been much investment in the park.
It hurts so bad
That’s my home park, and I still enjoy the place. Heck, I prefer it over SFFT, mainly because IRat was closed during my trip to SFFT
@@melissanassetta9626 One of the nice things about Great Escape is the variety of rides such as the Swan Boats, Alpine Bobsled, Sky Ride, Storytown Train, the best wooden coaster: The Comet.
What if it's the best
I’ve been waiting for this video for a couple weeks! Finally it’s here, and it’s amazing!! Keep up more content like this
Imagine Lagos's amusement park
"Shit fam, we gotta build 10 new coasters this year"
Great video! It made me realize again that even though Six Flags are seen by many as the "budget" theme park corp now, their parks are not so bad, even the bottom tier ones.
Until my mid twenties, I lived first in Calgary (best coaster in 150 miles = a headache machine Arrow Corkscrew), then moved to Denver (best coaster in 150 miles = a headache machine Vekoma SLC), then moved to Portland (best coaster in 150 miles = a headache machine Pinfari looper). I'm envious of the people that are near even the bottom tier Six flags parks.
New England should be back on its game soon cause they’re probably getting a coaster either next year or 2021 cause it’s their 150th anniversary
Infinite Coasters nope
@@Starlit43 they have a special announcement date this year, so uh yes
alex-i no it’s getting announced on the 29th with all the other six flags parks
I thought theyd get a coaster for 2021 but it looks like it really could happen in 2020
There isn’t that much room for more coasters I swear the park has used all its room imo. Joker barley fit even. Get rid of the slc then
You should do the seaworld parks next c:
Bush gardens Williamsburg
Bush gardens Tampa
Sesame place
Sea world San Diego
Sea world Orlando
Sea world San Antonio
(Idk if there’s more parks in the chain)
I love these Vids and look forward to watching them.
Also the people who live in an around the Reno NV area call six flags discovery kingdom their home park. ( but this was years ago when I lived there)
i agree
So glad to see Great America so high on the list. I grew up going to Great America almost every year and once even ditched school to go with my friends. Many people over look it because we get such a short season due to the Midwest weather but I absolutely love the park and it has so many good coasters I often find myself wishing for 2 days to go to the park
11:43 my boy canobie lake being done the "Kenobi" treatment smh my head
I was looking for this comment 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Hello there
From someone in Six Flags America’s area we go to that park because during the summer there isn’t anywhere else to go. The closest ‘chain’ park is Kings Dominion. It gets super packed, and honestly unbearable. I just really wish the company would give it more tlc because if they did we’d support it soo much
35x25x40x52 = 1.8 mil p/y and the paint is peeling ....... sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
I don't know what my home park is. It's Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Drayton Manor or Alton Towers
This fits because Great Adventure just closed because they lost all their power
Patrick Drum sludged all the way there and didn’t post anything on twitter like they always do. The traffic on the e way back was horrendous.
Umm... how long will they be closed, do you know?
@@andrewmiller7108 I work in he park, and as soon as I went to leave everything turned on again yesterday
@@woahcelestial What ride or thing do you work? Will stop by and say Hi next time I'm there in a few weeks for Fright Fest!
@@ThoosieJP I'm a retail team member and have been for years! I have no idea where I'll be during fright fest though because retail scheduling is all over the place
Now do Busch Gardens/Sea World Parks
All winners. Every park chooses quality over quantity and they really balance out their rides
Storm GD agreed
Storm GD they I do hate sea world for how they treat there orcas but there rides are good
I have a video in mind but its not really a winners losers video
@@AirtimeThrills I hope to see it soon!
Yesss. Six Flags Great America is amazing! I literally just got back from a visit
Great America needs to slow down (And this is coming from someone who's home park is Great America.
@@harrisonschneider8333 Great America is my home park. This is ridiculous but I think I would like it as a Cedar Fair park. Of course itll never ever happen. I just want quality coasters instead of quantity
The best thing great america could do is slow down for 2-4 years and then RMC american eagle
NumerousGeo - I have a tendency to be a park purist and even I would LOVE that. AE was such a rough ride last time I braved it, had neck and back pain the rest of the day. Never again.
Last time I was at Great America was when they had shock wave and iron wolf. It's been a while. Going next year though for a week.
I got a Disney World holiday ad on New England
Man your channel is hella underrated in the youtube coaster enthusiast community man! Please keep up the good work and I hope the best for all your future projects :)
Absolutely loved this video. Your videos have gotten me back into theme parks and as a result I just bought my wife and I 2020 cedar fair platinum passes. Thank you for the fantastic videos!
La Ronde used to be an amazing spot and so much fun. Great entertainment too. It had a close partnership with Nintendo that lasted from the 1995 to 2007. The last great addition was the B&M Hyper Coaster Goliath. My favourite is still the B&M Inverted, Vampire, which is a Batman The Ride clone. All the flat rides they added in the past years were never as fun as some of the classic flats we had in the 90’s. Instead of the Vekoma SLC, the spot would have been amazing for a flying coaster. I feel like most additions we’ve had were rides that were hated elsewhere and it’s incredibly sad. Instead of the Intamin 4D coaster that everyone seems to say “good luck to them”, I would have gladly have something like DéjàVu taking the spot of our classic Boomerang... I just hope things will get better in the future, i’m getting old, might as well travel instead of going to my home park! 😂
I wish my home park was in North America, North America always gets the good additions. All I can say is that I have 3 home parks, Alton Towers, Blackpool Pleasure Beach and Drayton Manor
I surprised myself with how excited I got upon seeing this vid uploaded. I love this series!
Thank you for the pointed criticism of America. As a native of MD and the DC area, this park has been languishing ever since it was acquired. I’m glad your stats show how mismanaged it is. Some say Kings Dominion and Hershey hurt it. But it has so much potential to really shine if they would just invest in it.
That nearby competition sets a high bar. I grew up in the DC area before SFA existed and I didn't feel like I was starved for theme parks. We'd go to KD, BGW or Hersheypark pretty much every summer. We got TV ads for Great Adventure.
It's a completely different situation from, say, New England, where Six Flags has NO competition on the same scale--they're competing with small local parks which are really different animals, attracting a different kind of traffic.
Good to see Six Flags Mexico is on the list! The lack of competition in the area (if not the whole country), coupled with the park being in Mexico City, and the recent upgrade to Medusa by RMC that elevated the coaster to a new level really helped to increase the attendance to the park. Hopefully, SFMX will be getting more love in the following years. Something I really want, since I'm becoming a regular to the park despite living in a different state.
Cheers from Mexico and excellent job gathering all the info and "crunching" it down into a ranking.
Zahriel What would you like to see come next to SFMx?
@@seanlewis1148 Besides, a RMC Raptor would be great for the park considering the small footprint needed, perfect for the limited space SFMX has
Great video , just the the Cedar Fair one. Lots of great info and so entertaining, I didn't want the video to end.
Great Video and I love these kind of videos about parks and stats and what to do. Keep it going and you are awesome.
17:20 That Batman: The Ride logo looks familiar 🤔 lol
Another really well edited and researched video! You've quickly become one of my favorite coaster channels. Even though Six Flags America is closer to me, I usually just bite the bullet and make the three and a half hour drive to Great Adventure because it's so much better. XD
Lol, that's ridiculous
Great america? Ah that sucks lol I live next to great adventure which is amazing! I rode kingda ka 4 times lol :D
@@shadowwall6495 u mean great adventure?
Shadow WALL You mean America, not Great America.
This is one of the few park tier lists that have great America over great adventure I’m so honored😭😭😭
I've been waiting ages for this video! Thanks Chris!
Anyone else remember when the Vallejo one was Marine World Africa USA? I went there a few times as a kid.
I wasn't alive for that but It is my home park
For six flags New England you forgot to mention the Wicked Cyclone which released in 2015 and is easily the second best ride at the park behind Superman
Air Time Thrills. I have watched this video at least a half dozen times and I came to realize, that it must have taken quite some to put this put this together. This and the Cedar Fair video are very well done. This kind of more in depth information is fascinating to me. Please keep up the great work!These kind of videos and all your others videos will help get this New Englander get through our cold winters, thinking about the sunny days on a great coaster.
Thank you! And yes these research type projects do take a long time but theyre worth it
i have never clicked on a video so fast in my life
Sees my home park Six Flags Great America ranked 2nd.
*happy coaster noises*
4:21 the girls in the front were legit having a full conversation on Full Throttle. XD
Great video! Now that I think about it, your tier list is pretty much perfect!
I always love how much effort you put into your lists and as a european its very informative aswell!
Great stuff
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
One tricky thing about this is that a great park can get ridiculous crowds, taking away from the experience of visitors. Yes, I'm talking about Great America. What Great America calls a dead day would be an insanely crowded day at Great Adventure. For me, it's things like this that puts Great Adventure, Fiesta Texas, & New England as my top 3 Six Flags parks. Also with Magic Mountain, there are plenty of opportunities to visit on days that aren't crazy. I know that your video is more business related, which helps explain why Six Flags treats the parks the way they do. From that perspective, I agree with your placements. But for the experience we can get out of each park, I would be doing some shuffling.
Dude I don’t know why but I just can’t stop rewatching this video. I love it
Dude, awesome video. I love stuff like this. Super interesting to watch. Thanks!!!
I really enjoyed this video. Would be cool if we could see more of this.
Can you do this with Seaworld parks
22:08 Every time man! You are on the short list of favorite video producers. Keep it up dude! :)
Love your videos! Thoughtful analysis. I found myself getting ready to question the placement of SFGAdv in Tier 2 before you broke it down. No argument!
I've always been amused by how Great Escape's logo is literally a Vekoma Boomerang.
Yeah that made me laugh too
I suppose it's a reminder that parks don't primarily cater to the little coaster-freak subculture, for whom this is basically the international symbol for "yeah, we got nuthin'." But to the average person it's just a cool-looking roller coaster.
(I just noticed that La Ronde's current logo is a more cropped version of the same image.)
if you find that funny, the entire six flags chain sells magnets with a vekoma inverted boomerang, WITH THE COLORS from "Stinger" now removed from Dorney. THe chain only owned one of those at six flags america "Two-Face: The Flip Side" and never got another until the disastrous three pack "giant inverted boomerang." In other words, they sell magnets based on a coaster that never existed in any of there parks, or couldn't even photoshop it to be orange like the one they did once have and ditched.
You'd think they'd use lake George for the logo
Comet is an airtime machine, not just any relocated woodie, it's better than most rmcs
reelfishing sorry but rmc is the boss
Bruh. Hwve you even been on an RMC. All Comet is is a wooden coaster. If it was known for being amazing, Great Escape would clearly have more guests
@@andrewpennell7920 I've done 12 rmcs, I'd take Comey over 6 of them
@@reelfishing2263 what RMCs does Comet beat?
@@andrewpennell7920 twisted colossus
Iron rattler
Storm chaser
Twisted timbers
Twisted cyclone
New Texas giant
Joker
(Hey look I miscounted that's 7)
U don’t know how long I’ve been waiting for this
Another great video dude!. Keep up the good work 💯
Magic Mountain is my home park and favorite park to go to for Xtreme Screamz!
XTREME SCREAMZ Same here.
Were you able to ride West Coast Racers over the weekend?
@@seanlewis1148 No! I left for home (Arizona) the day before it opened! 😪
Home Park is Over Texas. It’s not a bad park but not the best. They need to renovate the bathrooms and add a major original coaster. Yes I am aware that we are getting a Mack Power Splash.
Texas Mayhem preach brother! Also repaint the coasters!
@@respawnop4519 Judge and Titan are the only ones that need a repainting or a replacement of wood
Doctor Whooves Titan just needs an upgrade
Doctor Whooves Judge Roy got retracked recently but a paint job would help
Will Jones they need to ease up on the breaks on the mcbr. Look up early 2000s footage of Titan/Goliath. That sucker flew
Been to Six Flags over Texas years ago - like 1978. Been to Six Flags Magic Mountain - last time 1-2 years ago. They used to own Wild Waves Enchanted Village near Tacoma, Washington until about 5-6 years ago. Need to visit some more of the them. :)
I was so surprised to see Great America in the top tier! My home park has a lot of love☺️
What's the acreage for Over Georgia? Also I remember hearing awhile back that the rides have a height limit due to the nearby airport.
Goliath is over 200 feet tall. And much as we all love gigas, hypers still make for an excellent park.
goose6413 The acreage for Over Georgia is 290, and if I'm not mistaken, 250 ft. is the height barrier.
@@seanlewis1148 Thanks for the info! That height barrier is a little higher than I thought
@@kevinmeyer1583 Indeed they do. I'm glad my home park has it especially with all of that sweet sweet floater air time that Goliath provides!
SFOG ranks 7th with 283 acres
I CANT BELIVE IT LA RONDE ACTUALLY IS GETTING GREEN LANTERN IN 2020 HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Thank you, now let me go suffer while I ride it in May 😔
Six flags America: sad coaster noises
The reason it was bad was a bunch of stupid California laws, it should be pretty fun now.
I still can't believe it. I'm ashamed,
You did a lot of work getting all the stats. Very impressive!
Used to go to Great Escape as a kid for Oktoberfest with the extended family. Major nostalgia; I see the facts here but I hope it doesn't go away. And I hope it still has the rides I remember... I should get out there this summer
Makes me glad that I live right in between great adventure and New England on LI, and thanks for pointing out that New England might get a new coaster! I had no idea with all the great adventure news rn, if both get a new coaster I’m gonna freak 😁
Long Island needs a big amusement park.
I live 28 minutes from six flags great adventure, three hours from Six Flags New England , and three hours for Six Flags America
Well, COVID had other ideas and the new ride turned out to be a flat anyway. But the buzz now is speculation about what they might replace the defunct Giant Inverted Boomerang with.
This is funny because SFGAD just shut down because of a power outage lol
I came today I rode El Toro and nitro
Mikey0722 Best rides in the park!
Your videos are really good keep up the good work for some reason i really like ur intro
This is a very good analysis. I totally agree with all of these picks.
I was sad to see my home park of St. Louis so low, but at least it's the best of the worst, so that's better than nothing..... right?
Just 10 more days until announcements
At 10:35 we had that ride at magic mountain. It was called deja vu. Fun ride, definitely miss it.
You can ride it at SFNE. Now known as Goliath. Bit rough, but definitely an awesome ride!
I rode it twice when it was at SFMM, wish they would have left it there
Yes! I was waiting for this video
Sfgadv needs to do what Hershey is doing Hershey is drawing from philly Harrisburg allentown and even NYC six flags does only philly and NYC and with both cities growing fast they should take advantage of this and add more bigger and better rides like hersheypark has been going for years
NYC should have its own local park apart from Coney Island. It actually used to have loads, namely Freedomland USA
@John Lorton I know that what I'm saying is they should take advantage of the growth of the two cities nj as itself yes has a lot of people but im.focusing on the growth of the major cities in the area like Philadelphia and nyc hersheypark sees this and has been taking advantage that's why they always add bigger rides and if it's not a big ride its multiple small ones cause they will always get more profit then the total price of the ride
@@arkitect156 dude Hershey builds coasters every 4 years it seems.
They need to RMC Le Monstre at La Ronde. That would give the park a much needed boost.
Very nice video. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
Omg you used a peice of my six flags Darien lake commercial 2019 video! But don’t worry I’m not upset I’m actually happy my intended purpose was to show others this commercial and maybe help them when looking for videos to use regarding six flags😄
Who TF would wanna live right next to Magic Magic Mountain with Superman Escape From Krypton sounding the way it does?! Lol
lol thats what ive been saying since they started building that stupid neighborhood.
gplez91 Nobody should!!! Either Magic should tear down the old Superman and build a full circuit strata, or give the existing coaster major track work.....or just simply don't build houses right up against the park.
I wonder if theyll do anything about the noise, if possible
Airtime Thrills They should retrack
I would. I think the noise it makes is awesome
Darein lake brings in alot of Canadians six flags would be wise to invest in this park
Rob Swan Yeah...RMC Predator.
He also noted it draws it's attendance from buffalo, which is not accurate. It is half way between Rochester and buffalo and draws from both major cities.
This is my favorite video on your channel
I've been to Great Escape and Great Adventure. While the two times I went to GA were field trips, I remember driving up to Lake George/Queensbury with my family every summer as a kid to go to GE, and loving it every time we went. It's definitely more diverse/family oriented in terms of the rides it has, but it's still a fun and pretty park that doesn't deserve the lack of attention it gets.
Over gorgera needs to be at number 5 or 6
I'm okay with this list cuz I do go to New England and I also go to Great Adventure so I'm happy with that awesome video by the way
I live in Albany, I'm basically right in the middle of NE SF. TGE is 45 mins from me, New England is 2 hours, SFGADV is 3-4 hours depending on NYC traffic, La Ronde is 3 hours away as long as the border cooperates, and Darien Lake is 4 hours away. That's alot of parks within a days drive that I can get into with my SF membership.
According to a manger at Six Flags I am a good friend with, Six Flags does in fact actually class their parks into tiers. However, there are only THREE tiers.
Does he have any specifics (i.e. parks within the tiers?)
The video I needed on my birthday
Well it could be worst everyone! My home park was astroworld.
James Morgan I heard that Travis was bringing it back.
I miss Catapult and Splashwater Falls at SFNE, which both were from Astroworld. Sky Swat and Diablo Falls from there.
Sky swat was a lot of fun.
@@jamesmorgan7299 it was my favorite ride when we got it at SFNE, still is. Even though it's been removed. Such a unique ride.
The best thing about was how the seat shifted and when they were empty it created an extra level of fear that something was wrong. If I remember it right
I wish they did not sell Six Flags: Worlds of Adventure to Cedar Fair.
It was doomed because the attendance couldn't support the park of that size. Their ride lineup wasn't that great either. Here's an article.
www.themeparktourist.com/features/20140824/28153/lost-geauga-lake-how-worlds-largest-six-flags-disappeared
Six Flags is the one who killed the park. Cedar Fair was like the hospital trying to keep it alive, but it succumbed to injuries.
It's a shame Six Flags didn't sell it to Sea World instead of counter offering.
Man if six flags sold it to busch we would of had busch gardens and seaworld ohio
These are so interesting, well done! Any other major chains that you could do? I can't really think of any others that have a dozen plus theme parks off the top of my head, but surely there has to be at LEAST a few more
There aren't any more with this many parks *in the US*, but several others have many worldwide. Parques Reunidos owns 7 mostly smaller theme parks in the US, but include their worldwide operations and it's at the Cedar Fair-Six Flags level. Disney has a dozen theme parks (plus two water parks and all their other stuff) if you count all the individual gates at all the worldwide resorts.
The way he said Canobie lake sent me lmao
Im glad you put Great America up at the top, even tho it's one of top parks in the US, many people forget about it.
My home park. Best one in the chain imo
@@BobMocarski my home park as well! we are very lucky
Been going their since the early 80s. Seen the park evolve so much
19:05 my home park is la ronde and I really don't mind getting green lantern if it gets retracked and becomes as good as the european ones:)
Honestly sad to see it go from SFMM. I had great rides and never got hurt on it.
I hope the retracting and other changes made to the the relocated green later work out.. la ronde needs it. La ronde is my home park but Over the years I've been buying season passes to visit Canada's wonderland. Leviathan and Yukon striker alone make la ronde sad
Finally a list that makes complete sense!
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13:48 Slingshot opened in 2014 and X-Flight (Sky Coaster by Skycoaster Inc.) in 2015, but SF MX did not get any attractions in 2011 and 2012. It is my home park.
Btw, your videos are AMAIZING, bro! I love them.
What about Rochester for Darien Lake? While we may have Sea Breeze, a ton of people trek out to Darien instead.
Very true, I can't even remember the last time I've been to sea breeze, but I go to Darien at least once a year
nice video, was pretty enjoyable :)
The main problem, that I see at least, with Frontier City here in OKC, is a lack of advertising. Used to be that you would see a commercial about admission and live events and new rides almost every other day during spring and summer. Now you might hear something in the beginning of March, and then something beginning of July or August. If people don't know what attractions or rides or events you are promoting, why bother showing up? I didn't even know about the newer coaster they installed until a friend of mine talked to me about it last summer, in September, just before the season was over. For $40 an admission, and $20 parking, you would want to get the word out and over-saturate your ad market. The ads may cost you, but if you do it right, including that "Hey, we're owned by SIX FLAGS now!", you would probably see much more foot traffic coming through those gates, which would not only offset the money you spent on advertising, but it would entice more people to get season passes rather than the one-and-done day pass. And that's not counting how much that would end up being spent on concessions and souvenirs, not to mention daily live shows and special events like concerts and special exhibits. It's almost like they want this park to die, which is a shame, because as small as it is, it really did used to be a fun place to hang out with friends and family.
Six Flags is weird... in terms of new additions Great America is clearly second but in terms of coaster lineup Great Adventure is. It honestly makes ranking them difficult, as there are legitimate arguments for both Great America and Great Adventure making and not making first tier.
yeah but Great adventure only has a slightly better lineup because of El toro, which was built more than 10 years ago and has no barring on how six flags has been investing each park. so I say great america is second.
nate Louis Great America lacks anything taller than a hypercoaster, has a worse hypercoaster, and doesn’t manage to have a coaster with more than 5 inversions (implying shorter coasters with inversions). The park has a major problem combining “length” and “quality,” where-as you could argue that Great Adventure has 2-3 coasters which do that well.
How about an extra comment comparing the best coasters at each park. Which is better?
El Toro or Goliath?
Kingda Ka or Maxx Force?
Nitro or Raging Bull?
Bizarro or X-Flight?
The first one is clearly in SFGadv’s favor. The second is debatable either way (coaster enthusiasts probably pick Maxx Force) but both coasters are gimmicky and KK has the more impressive gimmick. The third also goes in SFGadv’s favor easily. Honestly, I don’t know enough about how Bizarro is rated to know how the fourth one would go, but Bizarro does win in terms of stats. If it’s aged poorly or the keyhole element gives X-Flight the edge I could see it losing, but I can also see it winning.
And once you’re past that group, and once you get the coasters both parks have out of the way, you’re really left with the lesser and some of the more moderate coasters of the park. SFGam probably does get an advantage here, but I wouldn’t argue its particularly strong given the advantages it lacks in the “top coasters” department.