Warhammer 3 DLC FULL CONTENT LEAKS (3 dlcs)
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
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Who wants to see Hung the Not-so-nice in future DLCs?
I prefer Nice the Not-So-Hung
Well-Hung the Seducer for a future Slaanesh DLC
Who dat?
Your mom saw Hung the Not-so-nice last night, Trebek! HAHAHAHAHHAHA
@@kapitankapital6580 "Im nice, the not-so-hung. I always finish last" 😢
I will admit,
CA has massive guts trying to approach both 40k and star wars with their ideas.
They dont have a choice. Star wars and 40k will be entirely different from what we expect from total war games. It will be more like star war battlefront or battlefleet. From previous leaks from ca former developers, the total war engine is now soo overpatched, that it is unfixable. They have no choice but to start from scratch. This wont be a total war game, but a new game with the same name.
@@nvmtt1403 tbh thats not a bad thing, especially if they somehow pull off a decent enemy ai for the next engine
@@nvmtt1403what's more likely is they'll start with a "base" version of the total war engine, and build up from there
Can't wait to play with hung the brutal 😂😂😂😂😂
Return to monkey
Norsca fading from anemia in the background
a faint "Norsca" can be heard on the wind
Forgot they even existed
They are still very powerful.
Just need to be given walls.
*Ape noises*
Norsca and all the Undead Factions also. Tbh my original idea was to make Tamurkhan a Norscan lord, make his faction a Norsca Nurgle Fusion like the champions of chaos DLC and rename Norsca to 'Nothern Tribes' so it also includes the Kurgans
The lack of a Centerpiece Entity makes this unbelievable
Gonna drop my speculate here
Just fusion these so-call sub races together add some Hinduism unit culture and called it Ind it would be believable than this bs
I love Cathay but where's the other dragons siblings ? Not this who tf r u Lord
Edit: look at the unit somehow it like this is just a foundation for IND in the future (if they secretly plan) ton of tigermen , Devil Giant Ogre
Monkey king Island is also somewhere in Ind
If this is true then they can just Move Wukong to Ind and all these Sub Factions Unit to Ind own Factions and plus new units here and there (7+ units + already exist units from that dlc sub race) and Ind will be done with less effort when it happen they're gonna have like 19 units which is a lot
@@user-pf3ok9lt2b this actually makes a lot of sense.... so i dont imagine CA are going with this route LOL
I'ts not going to happen and the fact Legends belivies it is hilarious. probably got someone fired
@@user-pf3ok9lt2b Li Dao is a FLC lord he mentioned, hes a dragon sibling. Dont really see you're point. You want 7 Cathayan Lords that are all essentially the same person just with different lores of magic?
I do hope this leak is bullshit too
with all the weird naming on this they probably trolled Legend into reading some internal memes out loud
100%
The new lords are "Sum Ting Wong" and "Wi Tu Lo"
I hope so
@@Shadowcam00 ...Is this a joke or not? I can't tell, Oldhammer did shit like that all the time.
@@Xick They're fake pilot names that someone gave to a news station in a prank call after a plane had to make an emergency landing; the host read them live on air. Search "sum ting wong" and you'll find the footage.
If we only have a few dlcs and one of them is just an entirely cathay dlc WITHOUT monkey king I literally couldn't be more dissapointed
@@SleepyGaming-ie9fbwho wants ogers anyway
I have no idea why they don't just cram all the Cathay related dlcs together, like, the Monkey King should have tigermen and ogres in his faction anyway so why separate them like this at all? I mean I just want a Khorne dlc god damn it, I'm fine with waiting for Nagash since I think it'd be a mistake to try and end the game without putting a Nagash dlc out. But I know that Nagash would sell, and sell well, so it makes sense to keep him in their back pocket for later.
@@darkrite9000 money is the answe
>Cathay DLC
I sleep.
>Estalia DLC
REAL SHIT?!
No Estalia, just Tilea
Sadly no Estalia only Tilea, big disappointment not gonna bother buying it
@@firstname3343 for now
maybe we gonna get estalia too
@@firstname3343 what is even the fckn point of doing dogs of war without Estalia in it ? Fuck sake CA
@@erikvannik5208 Erm, dogs of war were always mroe of a Tilea thing, tho?
Someone trolled Mr. Legend big time..
Lords of Shan Jiang, ROFL
No they just changed what they were going to do. It took them 2 weeks to address it and all we got was a pick on twitter. You don’t think is weird that 2 of the factions picked don’t need a rework and the other one was in the dlc legend said. This dlc requires the least amount of change. Name any other factions they could have picked to make this easier. Dawi,empire,nurgle are out easy. Norsca, VC, vcoast, slannesh,brettonia. Are to much work. Lizard men and shaven are good contenders but lizards need a rework. They don’t want many game 2 races. And they don’t like giving dlc to dlc factions so TK,WE,CD, so who does that leave us. Cathay,blood god,skaven, green skins, bird man. They won’t do china because of the back lash. And bird man is the first chaos to get a dlc he won’t get two while some have zero. And skaven don’t need a dlc worth of content just a FLC at most. This is the most convenient DLC they could make that people wouldn’t get mad at.
There’s no possible way these leaks were ever actually real
They didn’t change plans because it would take much longer than 2 weeks to completely change their entire plan for the game and design a completely new DLC to drop on schedule. These leaks sounded like absolute bullshit when they came out and the recent announcements prove it.
@@anormalcrab8909 dude all they have to do is make the units for green skins, and khorne. They were already working on the ogres. Out of the 4 things we were shown only the ogers had in games shown content. That videos didn’t disprove anything
@@keithoshei6683if you honestly believe that these leaks are in anyway real that’s on you because this honestly sounds like fan fiction
Literally 3 Cathay dlcs (with one being all Cathay) and no khorne dlc was some of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard
@@anormalcrab8909 I would not be surprised CA has done worse
Feels like a 8 Princes moment - why introduce unnamed chars when there is so many lords and heros left to choose from?
because they need to rub them on the chaos campaign.
@@martinlysy true, at this point they really need to drop RoC and focus solely on IE.
@@crusecon7758 Agree
I call BS on that explanation because they didn't even put epidimius into ROC I think they are giving up on it.
Could be GW want them to rush out all of the new characters for Cathey as quickly as possible to show them off, not caring or considering that the players might get tired of it.
That first dlc sounds like an absolute mess I'm gonna be real here
It really does. In its current state, I could see 1 more Cathayan LL in the next 3-4 DLC as appropriate, but that is about it.
Obviously the Ogres need some love, but both their existing LLs need a lot of help along with a new one, so that part is fine. After that, the undead factions need help, all three of them. Would love to see DLC for Tomb Kings (Doesn't actually need a rework, just content mostly), Vampire Coast (Needs everything), and subfactions for Vampire Counts (Which probably should just be named Vampires)
And I don't see why the ogre and tigerman lords couldn't be put in with the Dogs of War DLC, since they sound Mercenary like it would just add value to the DLC, you would get lords both in the West and East all local to use.
@@Darkpentagrams Same thing with the Ogre Mercenary LL. Seems like he would make more sense with the DoW release or after it. If they release him beforehand, he is inevitably going to feel dated in the very next DLC, as he will be missing the DoW mechanics.
@@ymirtheprimordial5453 The Maneater LL not being part of DoW does stand out like a sore thumb. I hope theyre not serious about that approach, or include him as dual Lord for both Ogres and DoW after that dlc is out.
Choosing your 'race' would be something pretty new, and could be implemented for more LL too, such as Aranessa or the Champions of Chaos lords.
They(CA) already said they wanted to push for Asia (lets be honest, videogame marketing is busted there, especially china/japan/south korea/philippine), and it's totally understandable considering they need huge cash for their future projects and we all know that Cathay is the only faction with insane potential in terms of content, and it's the only "easter/asian" based faction. So Its obvious CA will push for it.
In wh2 they did the same thing for lizardmen and skaven btw (3 damn dlcs)... So why even get mad for this when they already did it in the previous game lol.
At least now they have a good reason.
Lmao theses sources do not know what they are on about lmao
Comments like really making gaming online gaming discussions so enjoyable to me
Looks like it's going to be Khorne ogres and greenskins
If the Cathay dlc is correct then god knows how many dlcs got cancelled cause there's no way they planed to have not 1 but 5 cathay lord back to back
China bucks
CA and GW going hard breaking into the Chinese market
Alot of subfactions to reuse assets. This only means the entire DLC was downscaled and they will just try to buck in the last scraps of cash
So if this is accurate Cathay will have 8 LLs drawing from 3 separate dlcs... that is certainly a choice
Who do they think they are? Skaven?
To be fair, Warriors of Chaos have 8 LLs and you only need to buy 2 DLCs to get all of them.
@@ymirtheprimordial5453 Yeah, but 4 of those are only lesser versions of the monogods. And Sigvald and Kholek *barely* have anything to their own name. Belakor with his portals and full, unlimited roster is the most standout, and even those mechanics are not exactly flashy, just cool to have.
@@Grivehn Oh absolutely, the Warriors of Chaos was an absolute shell of a race for a decade, and even now is mostly just borrowing from the Mono-Gods for anything nice. I am absolutely not saying that is a good model to follow for anything else.
@@Crase1986 worse. they're bug men
Came to tell you , you were wrong as agreed (fortunately in this case lol)
NEXT DLC: Khorne,Greenskins,Ogres
I’d say he was right and they changed
@@keithoshei6683 they announced a Khorne FLC lord before the "leak". That alone should tell us they were teasing for something Khorne and "dogs of war" related .......
This…. Feels dubious at best. Then again CA does have a long history of consulting with the “smoke some bath salts” oracle to help them make decisions.
I'm kinda disappointed in no Norsca, Vampire Counts, Bretonnia, or anything for the factions that haven't been touched in years. Nothing with Khorne either, and Slaanesh only gets an FLC.
But Dogs of War is really amazing and Halfling Hotpot Catapults are going to be fun to mess around with.
They are really trying to penetrate chinese market, also Cathay is WH3 most popular faction (only WH3 races), so it makes sense financially. Dogs of War is a fan favorite and long awaited so it will prolly sell like Chaos Dwarfs. Im just surprised as I would have guessed Leak 1 and Leak 3 would be reversed since Monkey King is an existing character.
@@hannibal5158 existing character... yes, technically, but barely. Like four paragraphs written about him, ever? Not much more than that.
@@hannibal5158I imagine they've noticed that less mainstream factions sell well, like chaos dwarves, Cathay and kislev (as opposed to long term running factions like the empire, dwarves, elves, chaos /norsca and bretonnia
@@hannibal5158Chinese market aren't very dlc friendly.
Which is why they dropped 3k
@@BittermanAndy i meant the hype around him is already there.
“Makes a dlc that adds and updates 3 different factions that desperately need the updates = huge win in both fan appreciation and monetarily” CA response - “lets make nothing but cathay for 2 of the next 3 dlc even though just one dlc ago was cathay already, really want those chinese dollars!!!” Do we really need to be a genius to see how this will go?
It will literally print money.
Let's not pretend the chinese market is the only ones that like Cathay. And lets nkt pretend Cathay getting its second dlc ever is that insane. Skaven and LM have like 4 each.
Yeah how much money did the last cathay dlc print for them?
@@plaecholder You seem to forget (perhaps purposefully) we can SEE how many people are playing TWW3, it is a relatively small slice of a playerbase in a niche game. We are not talking millions of players, we are not even talking hundreds of thousands. Pandering (lol) to a specific place in the world hoping for big bucks in a game so niche as to have tens of thousands of players max is a terrible strategy. And like was said the last DLC with Cathay was almost a death sentence for CA. Nothing about what you are saying is actually happening, stop RPing like the world is playing out differently. It is weird.
@@fish5645 it was only an issue due to overpricing a lack of content. Lets not pretend like Yuan Bo isnt by far the most played ll east of the eight peaks.
@@plaecholder I really, really doubt it will print money. Shadows of change didn't, and it had Cathay in it.
The better example is Three Kingdoms. CA/Sega invested heavily in marketing in China, and it paid off. They got the best initial sales numbers in the entire series to date. But the DLC didn't sell, at all. They were hoping Three Kingdoms would be lucrative DLC engine, but it absolutely wasn't. For WH3, this is much worse. There just aren't enough sales of the Base Game in China to sell the amount of DLC needed, and there is no realistic chance that this DLC will drive base game sales. Maybe if they offer a Game+DLC bundle in China, but I doubt they will.
Couldn't fucking care less about new kid on the block Cathay when Khorne only has a single lord to choose from.
Skarbrand is a pretty good lord though, gotta admit. Lol. But I’d love to have another Khorn lord and Slannesh loves getting fucked but not like this.
Khorne has two?
@@davidevans6755shes not under khone shes in warrior's of chaos she also has no unique mechanics and even if did add her 2??? Having two is okay? Foh when khone is already so basic.
@@gtmafiaa I mean I would argue she’s still Khorne? Unless being under a chaos god is meaningless. I agree with you her mechanics are very lacklustre tho, generally they’re my least fav faction to play although I guess they have some flc love
@@davidevans6755 I don’t even want to play any of the other Lords because I played Undivided and Vulkia so much. Only real difference is you get different colored models and different legendary lord to play as.
Dogs of war without southern realms would be super disappointing.
So long as the Dogs of War are not excessively teathered to the Southern Realms they can and should do both Tilea, Estalia and the Border Princes.
The Dogs themesleves are the main attraction, though, and they must be a horde faction that sets up undercity/cult buildings in their client's territory, rather than another faction that just tries to paint the map.
As the literal air particles in the room when the DLCs were discussed, I can indeed confirm that I heard nothing because I don't have ears.
Well, duh, dust particles don't have human ears, silly...
Legend is trying to achieve 90 % wardsave from missinformation damage:
The armor of wording 15%
The weapon of the sharpened mind 15 %
The Talisman of foresight 15%
The potion of good will 45 %
I think he should still equip the Sword of Khaine. He can handle the minus control on provinces :D
@@justdracir8197 minus control in comment section. Stack it with nemesis crown
ward save*
@@ATEN_DNAR thx
@@justdracir8197 He needs the Sword of CAine
So this was all utter nonsense and Legend's sources have 0 credibility
Lucky us
Didn’t he spend over the first quarter of the video explaining and disclaiming that everything he was going over should be taken cautiously at best? What probably happened is CA likely started mole hunting, and feed Legend’s insiders misinformation to compromise them.
@@joshmay7921 That's not how mole hunting works. If you mole hunt you give everyone different information so you immediately know who is leaking
@@deanprowell7947 they were probably giving other employees, including whoever legends’ apparently are, all sorts of false informations to see is publicly leaked. You said absolutely nothing that contradicted what I’ve already said.
@@joshmay7921 Why are you so insistent that this was actually a leak from someone at CA?
Legend claims that he had multiple sources that "collaborated" the leak, that immediately proves your idea that it was a mole hunt wrong.
Second, this is the type of info that is under NDA and will lead to being fired and blacklisted. No dev is going to risk their job over this sort of thing.
The leaks were never true, stop trying to act like this was some "big victory" over CA
I'm happy to see everything in this video was absolute and utter misinformation, as it always was going to be? 3 cathay factions in dlc was never going to happen, anyone who genuinely believed that just doesn't understand that while CA are dumb at times they aren't that dumb.
Nah dude, CA saw the leaks and scrapped months of development and shifted course when they saw the reaction. We should thank Legend for spearheading this movement.
@@vulcanmemes9770 You can't really know that for sure though.
Im proud to say that i called it bs at when i made this video.
@@vulcanmemes9770 What? you serious. Yeah a AAA company is scrapping months of work and money to shift course. Because of a 'leak' From a youtuber. Do you believe yourself?
@@TheSegert It's a joke
"these dlcs need to do well or we will probably have to cancel later dlc. anyway here's ogres and cathay" ugh ffs
If true CA are putting a stick in their bike wheel
Dogs of War is hype, at least.
@@Zebo12345678 With two lords?
I mean, Cathay and Ogres are in my top 3 factions. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they won't sell.
Yes wtf @Drakenn100
If this information is true then I’m a bit disappointed. These potential future dlcs don’t sound too fun.
There are a lot of Cathay and just a bit of Tilea...
I'm not against more content for Cathay, but for nearest future it seems everything else will stay the same, Nosca, Campaign mechanics of Lizardmen, Vampire Counts, Vampire Coast...
So on my count, in total, counting FLC here, we get:
1 Ogre LL
2 DoW LLs
1 Dark Elf/Slaanesh LL
5 Cathay LLs
That seems frankly absurd. Like at least space out the Cathayan LLs. What I think most of us really want is what they did in Thrones of Decay with fixing up boring old Vanilla lords, and making older but popular races better. Really want to see Tomb Kings, Brettonia, and Vampire Coast be worth playing, really never wanted 5 new Cathayan LLs.
@@ymirtheprimordial5453 Who is asking for this much Cathay?!
@@ATEN_DNARnot opposed to it over the course of time, but the next year? Yeah, no. Norsca, Greenskins, Vampires, Dark Elves, High Elves, etc need to show up. I doubt they cancel the Slaanesh or Khorne DLCs, pushed back maybe, but cancelled seems highly unlikely.
@@ATEN_DNARthe entire Chinese Market. (And me...)
well nope
@@shatteredteethofgod Seethe and cope
If the Dogs of War don't have a LL for Estalia, one for Tilea and another for the Border Princes, I'm going to be disapointed. And I will be pleasantly surprised if there is another one for the New World Colonies.
I really hope they don't fall behind a mod in content here, even if it's one of the best and bigger mods out there.
The oportunity they are going to miss by not including the Albion Giants and its mage and make it a big flagship unit of the DLC with some specific mechanic like" U cant attack the mage until the Giants are down" Is a fkin crime and the other big heroes like the elven high dragon princr that is a mercenary too is a great loss of an amazing chance to shine
No Khorne or Slaanesh DLC
No Middenland
No Aislinn and Lothern Sea Patrol
No Orthodoxy expansion for Kislev
No Thanquol, Nagash, Neferata
CA apparently doesn't like easy, money-making, low hanging fruit.
No Nippon
@@HotSauceForTheSoul The low hanging fruit is Cathay, to tap onto Asian/Chinese market. They already did Empire and Dwarves in the latest DLC because they are the most played factions.
Super disappointed about Nagash. I was sure he was gonna be in it.
Later
If this is to be believed, Cathay seems to be getting a mega amount of DLC such that the Skaven will be green with envy.
Not sure how I feel about that. I'd honestly rather get additions / reworks to old factions or new races entirely.
Are you surprised? I am not, as soon as I heard about Grand Cathay I knew it was going to siphon up most of the development.
Even with Cathay's second dlc they'll have not even half of the dlc the skaven have.
It's predictable though. There is no Cathay on the table top, so CA is able to take more liberties when designing them
Cathay is only faction in WH3 I like so it's okay to me. Really wish Vampires got something though.
@@Botar48Opposite for me, I have not played a single campaign for Cathay it just doesn't interest me. At least these dlcs might be a bit different than previous Cathay.
I must admit, "Hun, the Not so Nice" would be a terrific ogre name.
If the Cathay DLC doesn't have Monkey King... They should delay it until they do.
Kinda annoying they give Cathay 2 dlcs and 5 lords. But nothing for the blood god and only one flc for slan
Yeah not too happy about it, I really want Khorne and Slaanesh to get new stuff
You don't talk about empire having their 5th lord and dwarf their 6th lord? Why European Faction and not Asian? There is a problem with this?
@@hercules2606hdfree loadable content
@@bakaneko5191 Shut up racist
@@bakaneko5191 Empire and Dwarfs have five and six lords spread out over the course of three games and almost ten years, whereas Cathay will be getting 5 lords in the same game in a fraction of the time, with some DLC's being exclusively Cathay. Stop race baiting with false equivalencies.
>needs DLC to sell well
>makes random unknown characters instead of requested and desired lords/factions
Gg CA
Requested and desired in NA and EU. But they seem to be going all-in on China
@@squashiejoshie200000 really curious about cathay preference in china. I know a couple of chinese and they generally play undead and elves and have told me that most everyone pirates their games... it seems CA doesn't really do market research
Actually interesting and good point, if that's true.
Ty for pointing that out @@squashiejoshie200000
@@squashiejoshie200000 which is a retarded decision… alienating ur established fanbase by trying to appeal to a new market is risky and will kill the game.
@@squashiejoshie200000 going all in on china is a R3TAR3D decision.. alienating ur established fanbase by trying to appeal to a new crowd is a great way for killing your game.
So 4 cathay dlcs? Well thats just killed my hype
I could say stuff like "welp this didn't aged well", but that would imply this load of hillariously fake bs was looking good at any point.
They really trying to milk this cathay content. I just want Khorne and lizardmen lol
Would love an update to vamps tbh.
God bless u man, Khorne and lizardmens are my favorite races
Me too man. Me too
@@gaddag1477 that too
@@ynwa9885what does khorne even have to add? I swear they have all their units if we’re going by fantasy and not age of sigmar or end times
I really hope this is false (Naturally, I don't know one way or the other). This is extremely Cathay heavy, and I would prefer not to be exploring new lore when there are so many things in older races still needing refreshing. I would like to see full reworks of Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast, and Bretonnia in the style we have seen recent race reworks. Thrones of Decay was successful because it took some already popular content, and made it better. Not sure Cathayan Tigermen and Ogres is really what the game means. Again, I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, I don't care for it.
There's a zero chance this is real. The DoW character choices is somewhat believable, but makes ZERO SENSE they release Golgfag before it and not along it and the minuscule roster. As for the Cathay DLCs and amount of OCs, it also makes zero sense in multiple fronts 1-We never had a single lord pack that only had one race 2-GW has been cracking down on what it lets other companies do with their IP so that amount of OC is fishy 3-Why the fuck they wouldn't use the dragon-bros and wait so long for Monkey King? 4-There are TONS of characters with massive selling potential (Thanquol, Nagash, Neferata, Boris, Ushoran etc.) they can use, why would they bother with OCs?
@@MollymaukT Yeah, a ton of this makes so little sense, that I am honestly wondering if Legends annoyed CA so much with his leaks they fed him a whole bunch of nonsense on purpose, so when the next DLC is Slaanesh/High Elves he gets completely discredited, lol.
If these leaks are real, a ton of the recent moves don't make sense. Why stuff Gelt into Cathay, when you have a whopping 5 Cathayan LLs planned? Even assuming 3 of them are placed somewhere else (The Ogre one, the FLC one, and the other one in the Monkey King pack), there still isn't really room for two or more additional LLs in Cathay. Although honestly, I have no idea where there IS room for this many more LLs. It feels like the whole map is incredibly crowded with LLs now. Southlands has some room still, but that is about it. And 5 Cathayan lords in 3 DLCs seems like a really, really poor decision no matter how you slice it.
Yea, i was hoping the DLCs would focus on legacy races, Bretonnia/Norsca/Tomb Kings/Vampcoast with each of the Chaos Gods, its a well designed DLC format.
They're kinda taking a leap of faith with mercenary subfaction DLCs for the next 2-3 releases. New lore factions are the most popular requests by players so potentially higher sales but the risks are there if they don't deliver. I guess this is a desperate attempt to rebound from their recent blunders.
@@ymirtheprimordial5453 It's either Legend click-baiting and outrage farming or CA is mole-hunting for the leakers.
I think it means Ind. But they're still working on fleshing out the map in that area, so you get these "mercenary factions as subcategories of Cathay" for now. And the third DLC with the monkey King, all these factions will get a proper place on Ind, and be their own Ind race on the start screen.
That is an absolutely insane amount of content just for Cathay. I dont know about this...
They don't have the lore base (or the map space) necessary to develop distinct races for Ind, Nippon, Khuresh, Estalia, Tilea, AND Araby. It makes sense that they would have them represented through a "mercenary" mechanic. This way you can still have each of those flavours plausibly represented in-game. The names dropped in this vid might be placeholders, but the format seems legit. I think it's real.
I feel like CA should release the Monkey king DLC first instead of the "Lords of Shang Yang" in order to respect the long awaited hype for the monkey king, and to further not disappoint us with no renowned lords.
I don't know why they're focusing so much on cathay, I get it's one of the newer factions but I'd much rather have stuff from older races and Khorne/Slaanesh
Back before WH3 came out, when CCs were saying Cathay had no chance of being in, I insisted it would be. Not because it made sense in TW, but because executives have this idea that China = $$$. Never mind the fact this almost never works out for western countries, they just think somehow they are going to sell multiple billion copies there.
So this leak might be legit, but if it is, it is a spectacularly dumb plan that reeks of executive interference. Instead of focusing on the existing base (Which is where sales actually come from in a decades old franchise), some overpaid idiot who has never painted a miniature in his life has decided that cramming it full of "China content" will somehow bring in completely new customers from outside.
Most Chinese people don't pay for games because it's so easy to get free version...
Because China = Money
Exactly. Cathay gets a second DLC of game 3, and the second one is ALL Cathay?! Also just so happens to be the only faction in all 3 games, that I never coulf be bothered to play. 0 enthusiasm for the DLC, pr0bably thr only DLC I won't get.@@ymirtheprimordial5453
Well 3K 2 was cancelled and I believe they made a lot of money on the first title catering to a billion Chinese people and more, so I guess the Cathay DLC is their way to tap back into that big market. Just a guess though.
Shadows of Change didn't do well because of the lack of content. Then they fixed it and it went well. Then they made Thrones of Decay which went extremely well. Why can't they just continue on a winning path? They have something that makes them money but they don't want to keep making money? Do they have children in command of the company?
Almost certainly due to Shadows of Change imo. Companies like CA aren't so quick on their feet, but I think they are shifting back to the 2 Lord packs of WH2 because of SoC failure. Thrones of Decay was already in the works, but now the 2LL packs are already in the works, so they probably won't shift back, despite the success of Thrones.
"This time it'll work for sure, and we won't end up with egg on our face having to fire another third of our remaining staff"
as my dad says, most likely some 10 accountants have done the math and relaised that they could make more money by being assholes. Rather then releasing good content, thats just how it is
Tbh, it has more to do with who the DLCs were about too. Empire and Dwarfs were among most popular factions
CA doesn't know what the fanbase want too see in terms of characters from the setting, I mean Tamurkhan was really popular back in the day so whoopsiedaisy it sells well? who could have thought... focussing on Cathay this much and releasing no-name 'new' characters will be the nail in the coffin for CA's only moneymaking game atm.
The worst part is that the Monkey King comes with yet another cathayan lord. We could have literally everything else
So Drycha was unnecessary to come out with SoT and Ariel then? Good to know.
@@Prushinthespirit No, drycha was the 4th WE lord for a DLC faction. Li Dao would be the 7th in a base game faction where others have just one or two
From my perspective, if this turns out to be 100% accurate, then it will be very disappointing if there are only about 4 DLCs left.
I would love more Cathay content; Cathay needs more content. But this would basically be telling us: they’re finishing the Cathay roster, giving us a bit of dogs of war, and then end times. And that’s it. No more for Norsca. No more for Lizardmen. No more for Empire. And the craziest of it all? Slaanesh and Khorne get nothing more except FLC lords and heroes.
So I can only hope that there are closer to 6+ DLCs left. Because if everything that’s been rumored recently is all that’s left, then there’s not really much more to be excited about for this game.
Having that many Cathay lords back-to-back tells me that CA is planning on cashing out with the Chinese market as much as they can before they jump ship to 40k. They likely did have plans for all the DLC they've been hinting at since WH2, but the recent dip in sales due to their own bad actions have convinced them to scrap that for some easier sales before they divert most of their focus to 40k, which promises to be a more lucrative market than fantasy.
@@azeon562 its so unbelievable to me how they managed to f this up. At the end of Warhammer 2 they literally had the ball on the goal line unbelievable
If true, then CA is oblivious to the wants of its fan base and then they wonder why the game/DLC don't sell as much as they planned.
Managing Director of Creative Assembly here, this info is legit
cap
My uncle works at CA. Can confirm that @Crouchy232323 is indeed the MD.
So you're my other uncle. My first works at Nintendo, as you know.
My dad works at CA and he agrees
stray cat outside of CA offices here, can confirm this is the director.
CA gained so much credit with Thrones of Decay and decided to immediately throw it away with those messes of DLCs
bro this shit isn't even out or known to be true. calm the fuck down.
Are you fucking thick or what? This could be complete bullshit and most likely is lmao
Why do you automatically believe this?
When Legend says Ind is almost certainly not coming: "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined."
Meaning we'll get Khuresh, right? lol
@@len9505 Pygmies, though.
The idea that Dogs of War will be a race/faction pack with only two lords is really disappointing. Norsca got this treatment and look at those poor bastards. Nothing in ages.
I have a feeling this dlc with tigermen and cathay ogres might not be very popular. lets just hope it (potentially) bombing (hard) wont have any negative consequences for whats supposed to come later.
Ogres aren't popular at all don't get your hopes up this DLC won't sell
I've been hearing people have been wanting things like slayers for vampire coast, ogres for Cathay and halflings so I don't think that's necessarily true, probably so for Ind tho
Yeah Dogs of War is the biggest W here imo. I really hope it makes it to release.
The chinamen will be good pay piggies, CA is going the same path that John Cena is
@@daxl505where are you getting that from. People crap on ogres now because of their less than stellar implementation, but the faction has some diehard fans, myself being one of them, and I've never heard a single person say they dislike ogres conceptually, just that the mechanics are not well implemented and need a 2nd pass.
I fell like I know why they are doing this - speculation- but I feel like Cathay is the least Warhammery of the factions and I would have LOVED to see something for Norsca, Slaanesh, Dark Elves, Lizardmen, and Vampires. With the way things are going, I don't know how they can expect the consumers to buy the first 3 to justify a 4th, 5th, and 6th dlc to BEGIN to deal with some of the issues since the FIRST game. Wild.
So are they not going forward with Slaanesh or Khorne DLC's? Or are these rumored DLC packs coming out in addition to the other chaos stuff?
If Dechala is FLC for Dogs of War then it’s VERY likely we’re not getting Slaanesh DLC ever. Not in near future anyway. I still hope we’re getting rework of cults and unholy manifestations, would be a huge dissapointment if we don’t.
Slaanesh getting shafted isn't really that surprising. It's, by far, the least "corporate safe" faction, and CA - much like GW - would rather shove all Slaaneshi stuff into a pit and forget about it. If they have to entertain it at all, then they'll usually do the bare minimum and only touch the elements of Slaanesh, like pride or martial perfection, in the most superficial way possible.
The first dlc would be far more believable if dechala was part of it as a three way with cathay and ogres. Then them opening up khuresh and ind makes a lot more sense
My interest was lost the moment i've heard it. I was waiting for that Slaanesh DLC...
@@spnked9516 Atleast "getting shafted" is something Slaanesh factions would enjoy, gotta see the positives
@@spnked9516what a weird thing to think given how much slaanesh is already in the game, how much love the faction has gotten on the tabletop in the last couple years, and with the kind of stuff that’s left to include from their roster being pretty tame overall
I'm honestly praying that dogs of war get an integration with Sartosa in some way, Aranessa SORELY needs not only a boost in strength but some identity that actually fits her instead of one garbage early game unit.
Also, Dogs of War would be extra awesome if they brought in the Grudgebringer mercenary company from the Dark Omen game.
Completely agree.
Yes to all of that
Yeah, they should rework Aranessa and add DoW units to her roster
The fact that there is no mention to the Albion Giants and its Mage, is a sign they just want to fuck up, they are going to make a half-ass faction like norsca and leave it be like that, also no bronzino cannons, amazons or any other great units that coulf make this DLC a banger
Lol, you staked your credibility on this. “I don’t want any speculation, just facts”.
Question: Are these DLC also 'seperated' into parts like the Thrones of Decay ( which was separated into 3 exclusive LL DLCs)?
If this is really a "roadmap", it's the worst roadmap I've ever seen
Its not though. Its a leak. Most of this information is subject to change. Road maps are the opposite.
@@CM-iz5ny I hope so... in fact the ONLY thing that doesn't change is the Dogs of war. Monkey King is fine too, but if he comes with a lord of another faction. This Cathay galore is bull****.
Agreed, this "roadmap" is garbage. Warhammer 3 is dead
@@CM-iz5ny CA's roadmaps? Not subject to change? lmaooo
@@carbonjohnson6414 lol.. true. I was speaking in general.
well if they cant do WW1 how the fuck they do 40k
WW1 would've been so good with all Nations, basically Battlefield 1 in Total War. Also this could open the gate for WW2 in the future, but in all honesty I really want Renaissance 1452 -1600's ending with Siege of Vienna timeline.
well, if you do ww1 you are kind of locked into being realistic. making the battles not boring would be a challenge.
40K RTS games exist. Good games at that, that's something to go of off or help guide early development is look at how other devs have done it in the past and improve on it. WW1 RTS has never really been made, the setting has certain rules adhering to history that sound difficult to model, and I think CA literally needs a scientific breakthrough in their engine to simulate WW1 combat such as 10-20,000 individual units charging no mans land, couple hundred rounds of artillery landing on the same area at once.
To make WW1 work it has to be big, it's not like WW2 there isn't squad based combat which that only appeared towards the end of the Great War. 40K is like the opposite, Space Marine chapters are 1000 strong, squad based combat, there's large entities which the devs already have a code base for from Warhammer Total War, ect. If CA has 40k development questions they can literally email Games Workshop and get guidance probably within hours vs hiring a WW1 historian to adapt history to the way the devs want the game to feel. Just different mediums.
It honestly sounds like a technical issue - if they were working on a new engine and built a bunch of infrastructure on top of it... then decided the new engine wouldn't work: that's the sort of investment that companies occasionally just need to realize are sunk costs and walk away from.
I don't understand why Total War doesn't try a Victorian Era Total War, after Napoleon and before WW1. So many advancements in technology, exploration, history, and warfare. You could have different maps and expansions to represent important parts of history such as the American Civil War, Boer War, Crimean War, and other conflicts throughout the world. You can even offer various starting periods.
That's a rather condensed time period, and it would probably be better suited as a saga game if even that.
This didn't age well now, did it? Your sources are useless 😂
It’s a youtube video bruh 😂 get a life
@@ragemauger well, its legends job though right? Its literally his 'life' and he did give false information. And please dint write 'get a life' to someone if you are also on the same page, doing the exact same thing you are accusing him ahahahahah
@ragemauger, you must be his online guardian angel come to the rescue, huh? Cute. For a man who self proclaims himself to be a legend, I think he can take a bit of criticism when he is flat-out and unequivocally wrong. You can calm yourself down now 🙃
@@ragemauger Yes, it's a youtube video, good job kido you state the obvious.
What does that have to do with the topic at hand tho?
@@Pers0n97 WHYTE BOY MAD
They're really going for that china market eh?
Even Chinese dont like Ogres and Tigermen.
@@Wvk5zc Maybe they do it to have something to fill ind and kuresh without making full new factions
@Wvk5zc Ogres is just to fill them up since they're barebones. That has nothing to do with China market. Same with Dogs of War.
@@temtem9255 Ind and khuresh was never going to get dlc, they basically said this at warhammer 3 launch.
You don't need to be Asian to play Cathay, going with that argument everytime at every moment is quite a racist and complotist analysis.
Khorne, Slaanesh, Norsca, Lizardmen, Vampire Counts, Brittonia. If you are going to create “new” stuff then add Ind, Khuresh or Nippon.
MORE. RATS.
don't forget the ogres needing a lot of work too!
Araby not being added is a big sore point. And I’d rather they do an original take on Nippon than remix abandoned Ind stuff into more Cathay dlc.
It sounds like they are adding Ind in a lopsided way.
Cathay is optimal for adding new shit, because GW has an army book, so it is just modeling no need to create a new faction whole cloth
Still no Nagash. Hopefully scarbrand will get a friend too, skull taker / u'zuhl would be perfect
So Ind are no more on Race pack?
Now lord packs are coming back in two?
So let me get this right all of the next year + of content is for only 2 races ogres & Cathy with a race pack for Dogs of war with most of that content already being in the game? Now I know how non Skaven people felt about TWW2 DLC being a Skaven DLC every other pack
I don't understand why Skaven are submitted to such scrutiny, Lizardmen have as many DLCs as they do, only more forgettable. And among the 22 Lords that were not added in an FLC, 3 were Skavens. Lizardmen are the only ones to have had 2 consecutive DLCs (PaW + HaB). Yes skaven were a favored race but not at the expense of the others, unlike what seems to be coming for Cathay...
And I'm definitely not a man sized rat who mastered Reikspiel to better hide my true nature
@@unmeclambda5837 Its becuase the Lizardmen DLC never got as much attention as the skaven DLC's, that actually makes it worse because with any DLC containing Skaven the other race got less content.
yes-yes))
@@unmeclambda5837 Any DLC the skaven were involved in, the other side's paid content took the short end of the stick in both faction mechanics and unit diversity.
Prophet and Warlock: Skaven units were near perfect and the theme of this pack perfectly mirrored its LL. The mechanics were revolutionary compared to anything which came before. Meanwhile -ahem- *TEHENHAUIN* had neat though boring mechanics, three units which shared animations (and most of their visuals), only three units related to the LL. IIn addition to this the skaven received a great free rework (undercities), while the geomantic web hasnt been touched.
Shadow and Blade: Skaven mechanics were busted and incredibly engaging, units were great for the most part (mostly carried by mortars), while Malus received... a mechanic so bad there were mods published to remove it. Though the medusa is by far my favorite druchii SEM. Otherwise the units added to them were forgettable. Dark Elves never had a complex or interesting DLC mechanic-wise.
Moth and Hangry: The flesh lab once again revolutionized what was possible with faction mechancis. It is to date the most complex faction mechanic in the game. Units too, were perfect for the LL. And those ratwolves are cute. Meanwhile the elves received... a rather boring forge, with equally boring units aside from the bladesingers and stagknights. Though CA didnt have much to work with in regard to WE at that point. Yes, WE had a free rework which i am willing to consider in this.
Skaven simply steal the show. Both mechanically and in regards to unit quality and complexity. All factions included in their pack were maybe 1/3 as good from a quality perspective as them. Its not even about strength (which the Skaven clearly dunked on), but fun and interactivity. Non-Skaven mechanics were boring as all hell.
Though the same can be said of non-Prophet-and-Warlock lizard DLC. Although these always included a major free rework for the other factions. In a way, the other factions always left these DLC in a better shape than the lizards did thanks to said free reworks.
I can’t begin to explain how much of a shit I don’t give about Cathay, yet it keeps getting focus lately. I must be a masssive minority I guess.
I'm right there with you. I almost never even see a Cathay unit outside of them spamming me with trade agreements as I don't even bother with that part of the world in game. I mean the good news is I don't need to worry about spending money on tw3 for a good amount of time I guess?
You're not...its CA and SEGA as usual not being able to read a room, they almost certainly are going to blame the fans for the DLCs lack of success and probably throw out accusations of racism on top of that because they didn't get their way, its not the Chinese themed faction thats the problem...its that the Chinese themed faction is bland and uninteresting and had been rushed out the door with none of the flavor the previous factions had. Shame....ToD had me fooled they had finally found their footing.
GW wants to break into the Chinese market, and the same probably goes for CA
if you're north american or european you are the minority. They're chasing china.
Whats about the empty parts on the south-east part of the map? i hope they fill them up with smth
Sad!
The first DLC sounds like a total failure to me. There are plenty of missing characters/factions that can get implemented. I don't think players are interested in "custom" new characters. Also it doesn't really make sense: if the leaks are true that would mean that in 5 DLC's we would get 4 LL's for Cathay (I'm counting since Shadows of Change). And usually CA make pretty long breaks between releasing new content for the same faction which makes it even more unbelivable.
We really should have bullied CA hard when they first made that ghost lady for Vampire Coast. Horrible custom characters stealing spot from established lore characters is annoying.
Also Goldfang being a hero, like WTF that guy has his own mercenary faction.
@@Botar48but I like cylostra. She's fat and funny
@@florians9949strictly speaking he was a hero on TT. But this would be FAR from the first time they elevated a hero to lord status and he is absolutely one it makes sense to give his own faction to.
Agreed. Its too much for what little content is left for WH3, if those leaks are to be believed. If the next dlc is real, and is a failure, pretty sure the Monkey King dlc gets shafted sooner than they dropped Slaanesh and Khorne like hot potato.
And if not, oh well... Ive been saying for a while (since Chorfs basically) the game is 'complete enough' with mods. DoW and Nagash coming is nice, but they already exist as rather standout mods. Its just annoying indeed to give up potential new content for existing races who need it, for fattening up just Cathay.
Legend wants his predictions to have 90% ward save
trying to make a one leak doomstack. need all the wardsave i can get. I hope at the very least to get some regeneration in case things don't go to plan.
@@LegendofTotalWar exactly what I was thinking
@@LegendofTotalWar TWW leaks tier list when?
@@LegendofTotalWar if u had the lore of life aviable u wouldnt need regeneration. this way you dont get the weakness to fire debuff.
Haha
what happened to the tzeentch/nurgle/khorne/slaanesh thing they had going? they Just teased karanak, is nothing khornate coming along with the random ogre and random tigerman?
Credibility lost
What was the clarification on these supposed leaks?
@@thebackup2121 my dad works at nintendo
Did you guys even listen to this video and the one following it?
Cathay is one of my favorite factions, but if these leaks turn out to be true, holy shit we do not need *that much* Cathay
I’d want some of the older guys like Vamp Counts and Norsca to get some love too, and I usually don’t even play them lol
Na im good. They already had a flushed roster at launch. Now they are gonna have everything and then some.
to me, all this talk about monkey king and tiger men, just sounds like Ind , not Cathay. Maybe it means it won't be a seperate 'race' in the start screen just yet, but for now these factions will be found under Cathay in the start screen. And once monkey king is realsed in that third DLC, it'll all be transfered to it's own Ind races screen.
Don't forget about Yin-Yin!
@@BamBamGT1 No Ind or Nippon bro. They all are only Cathay addictions.
@@Nikolas5842 The lore about Ind literally talks about a tribe of tiger headed beastmen. Monkey kings islands are also Ind. Seems pretty obvious to me that the next DLC is laying the groundworks for Ind. A "mercenary lord tigerman...named bashiva. the link to Ind is pretty obvious I woudl say.
Going so heavy on Cathay seems a little bit strange
It's a totally empty area tbh
Cathay sells. Its that simple
@@plaecholderdoes it? Shadows of change was cathay
@@plaecholder what evidence do we have of that? Did people buy WH3 BECAUSE of it? I don't think so. Did SoC sell well?
@@JackdotC yeah but shadows of change was trash cuz the company fucked it up, if shadows of change was released like in its 2.0 final form it would have sell.
Brother, your source is trolling you. They can't make Thrones of Decay, then turn around and drop the tiger king for kathay.
Turns out this time you did get false information, lmao.
This is just too much Cathay
Sega have most likely told them to focus on growing the Chinese market, so it's Cathay, Cathay and more Cathay
Im happy about that. Cathay is great
Earning social cred in China and making juicy yuan profits.
agree, most boring faction. FFS give us Khorne, Slaneesh, Elves, Lizards !
When Nippon? Nippon when?
Wait are you serious?!
TWO Cathay Paid DLC?! Oh dear, even the Skaven are going to be envious!
three if you count last years
i think we will get 3 legendary lords for each DLC they finally got the content/cost rashio right and now they are going to change it again?
What is the problem with Golfag ? I'm french and I genuianly dont understand the problem with his name
Just give me a new Khorne lord ffs
ARBAAL! ARBAAL! ARBAAL!
You’re getting a dog instead.
@@ProduccionesPaquito isnt the dog one coming the free lord.
@@kS-ic4rf Karanak is a hero dog and we're getting it for free, Arbaal is a lord that rides a different dog that may arrive eventually
If they do end times Khorne should get Ka'Bandha. Another Bloodthirster but probably a more important one than Skarbrand.
So we're never gonna get Yin-Yin if these leaks are accurate I guess. At least the mod is really good.
Dragon marines make a hochland long rifle gun line look like a joke
Do you reckon, with Dogs of War, Sartosa might move to them and away from Vampirates?
Sounds like the cathay lords are probably going to be a bit like Drycha.
This seems like they are stretching out the monkey kingdom DLC with what was already completed for the cancelled 3rd DLC. Throw in a possible old asset dogs of war and it speaks volume to what’s going on behind the scenes.
god suits are so dumb, they had 4 Chaos dlcs planned overprized the first one because they effed hyenas and dropped the concept as a whole. It could have brought them loads of cash if properly prized but hey
Too much for Cathay in my opinion...
Going to file this under “Made-up Bullshit”~
No way Khorne and Slaanesh get no new units like the other two gods did 😭
General Points:
Leaks include details about the next three DLCs.
Information comes from multiple sources and may be subject to change.
Total War: Warhammer 40K is confirmed to be in development.
Star Wars Total War is in very early stages and may not see the light of day.
First DLC: "Lords of Shangyang"
Includes:
2 Legendary Lords
1 Legendary Hero
2 Generic Lords
2 Generic Heroes
7 Units with 5 variants each
3 Regiments of Renown
Total: 22 pieces of content
Free Legendary Lord: Gog Maneater (Mercenary Ogres)
Lords:
"Mung the Brutal" (Ogre for Cathay)
"Basa" (Tiger Man for Cathay)
Units for the Ogre subfaction:
Generic Lord: Devil Tyrant
Generic Hero: Paymaster
Units: Hunting Beasts, Man Crusher, Leering Devil Maneaters (2 variants), Leering Devil Maneater Cavalry
Units for the Tiger Men subfaction:
Generic Lord: Unknown
Generic Hero: Claw Speaker
Units: Tiger Warriors (2 variants), Tiger Warrior Stalkers (2 variants), Ironclaw Tiger Warriors (3 variants)
Second DLC: "Dogs of War"
Includes:
2 Legendary Lords
1 Legendary Hero
1 Generic Lord
2 Generic Heroes
8 Units
9 Regiments of Renown
Total: 22 pieces of content
Free Legendary Lord: Jala (Dark Elf for Slaanesh)
Lords:
Borgio the Besieger
Lucrezzia Belladonna
Legendary Hero: Midas the Mean
Generic Lord: Mercenary General
Generic Heroes: Hireling Wizard, Paymaster
Units: Pikemen, Crossbowmen, Duelists, Paymaster Bodyguards, Cannons, Halfling Hot Pot Catapults, Light Cavalry, Heavy Cavalry
Regiments of Renown: Lumpin Croop’s Fighting Cocks, Voland’s Venators, Vespero’s Vendetta, Braganza’s Besiegers, Ricco’s Republican Guard, Al Muktar’s Desert Dogs, Leopold’s Leopard Company, Marksmen of Miragliano, Birdmen of Catrazza
Third DLC: "The Monkey King"
Includes:
2 Legendary Lords
1 Legendary Hero
1 Generic Lord
2 Generic Heroes
5 Unique Units with 7 variants
3 Regiments of Renown
Total: 21 pieces of content
Free Legendary Lord: Li Dao (for Cathay)
Lords:
Sun Wukong
Su Wu the Trickster
Legendary Hero: Tang Fu, Sentinel of the Forest
Generic Lord: Kong Mo
Generic Heroes: Wukong Chieftain, Scarback
Units: Wukong Warriors (4 variants), Wukong Maulers (3 variants), Wukong Archers (2 variants), Great Jade (2 variants), Celestial Warbirds
Regiments of Renown: Details unknown
Tang Fu? I never hear that guy before I only new saytang and yangsing
Tigermen might just be their way of adding Ind without adding an entire new race.
Which, fair enough as long as the blank spot isn't blank.
"90% accuracy"
"totally trust my source"
Source? Trust me bro.
Well, the 10% happened :^)
A lot of it sounds like placeholder or file names, like the Wukong stuff is very on the nose which is something they usually try to avoid
no extra khorne lords? all the other chaos factions got dlc lords but khorne doesnt??
“Oh, you’re not going to buy our fictional history games? Well fuck you, we’ll make up a fantasy Chinese history and then force that down your throats.”
Meanwhile Slaanesh & Khorne looking at the other demon factions getting massive reworks “wait weren’t we next?”
They are. The official roadmap hasnt changed. Slaanesh will be part of the next DLC while Khorne will feature in the DLC after that. You can expect content of the same quantity as Blue and Green have received these last two DLC.
@@dektarey4024 he doesnt know..
Bretonnia just being the skeleton in the chair at the bottom of the pool at this point...
Are you calling what CA did with Tzeentch a massive rework? That one was absolutely overwhelming
You must be a sad guy, getting oppressed by chinese every minute of your life.
With all this upcoming Cathay content, does that mean the map changes in 6.0 will make Cathay bigger?
We have several factions that have not seen a single piece of DLC in two years, meanwhile Cathay receives 2 out of 3 DLC packs over the next year or two.... GREAT!
21:23 "Legend's full of shit!"
- Legend of Total War, 2024
More cathay. Literally, just make a warhammer spinoff that revolves around cathay at this point 🙄
Cathay is the 3 Kingdoms spinoff
Three kingdoms 2??
Is there a chance of a Chaos Dwarf Lord ? Or is this faction finished? I mean a Lord not a rework.
15:35 I can picture of a smirk on his face as he fights back the laughter.