You're forgetting about the 5th category. The 5th category is being under 18 and dragged to China by a parent that falls under one of the four categories that you spoke of.
I know you're using a green screen, but I like to imagine it's standard practice in China for laowai to set up a camera and chair and lighting in the middle of the street and talk about random stuff for an hour at a time
Winston to CCP: _Don't mess with me. I have tons of incriminating footage of politicians._ CCP to Winston: _We have a recording of your Lemon Tree singing performance._
When I lived in Beijing, we had a saying to describe the 3 (m) types of foreigners “mercenaries, missionaries, and misfits”. I guess we could add “miscreant”.
I love that c-milk is off in the background. You guys having escaped china and keep working together is inspiring. I hope you continue to have fun adventures around the world.
I'm a clean slate foreigner here in China. Not that I'm a criminal. But I went thru a bad divorce and moved to Central America for a few years. Then came to China last August. It is def a different world here. Your videos give a lot of great info. Helps me to survive here.
About being a "phile" to a country then have the dreams shattered by the reality when actually arrived in that country. The Japanese have a social syndrome called "Paris Syndrome". This occurred due to Japanese's love to Paris as they view Paris is a elegant and romantic place. When they actually arrived in Paris, all they could see are the littered street and people moving in rush. Which they feel depressed as they had very high expectation, especially seeing large number of local working class not acting elegant and romantic in the way which the Japanese people would imagined.
Anyone who has some reason to believe the country he grew up in makes it hard for him to thrive can be open to dream a better future elsewhere. The realitiy is that there is no paradise awaiting you anywhere, and it seems like each generation, from emigrants from poorer places to refugees escaping pure obliteration at home, will eventually realize that the society you move into does not really appreciate you because you are competition for resources!
Katrina Morningstar liberal city’s anywhere are shit because liberals don’t take responsibility for anything so when everyone is a liberal nothing is fixed or clean.
I lived in China for 13 years and while I feel myself wanting to chime in on the guy's points like "well there's an exception to that" or "you could have said it this way more effectively", this guy is pretty much bang on. I mean ultimately, anyone who has clearly spent the time in country and isn't self dellusional should eventually come to the same opinions. Definately a good series of videos to watch if you're interested in China.
He is dangerous to Americans by distracting them from our countries problems. In 500 years, the majority Hung China will still be full of Hung Chinese. You can’t say the same for the west. In 500 years founding western stock Whites will be a minority at best in our own western homelands.
Hilarious: “I learned very quickly to not hang out with the foreigners who used to work at the Kindergarten with me.” Most ironic statement I’ve heard in ages.
@@2b_or_not_2b_4gottensome value community, some value solitude. Some enjoy playing pool with others, some like playing video games on their own. Woot.woot.
Totally agree with the four (maybe five) categories. Most of expats I know or have run into in Taipei are #1 ("Taiwanophiles"), who were drawn by just the abject "foreign-ness" of the society, culture, way of life, and language. A subset of this group are the types that have never felt particularly comfortable in or connected to their home culture - so, I guess there's a bit of the "clean slate" group in them, because they're looking for a place where they can fit in. It's seems like a bit of a contradiction, of course, because, as foreigners, we can never fully become Chinese/Taiwanese. But, in a strange way, I think being a total outsider works for these types, because then there's no expectation that they should "fit in," so they can be comfortable in their "outsider-ness", in contrast to the "black sheep of the family" feeling they have in their own society.
To follow up on what you said: if you don’t feel at home, it’s worse because it’s your home, but if you go elsewhere and know you’ll never blend in and accept that, it’s far easier to swallow.
@bifrostbeberast3246 I'd like to know what you do to be able to work 1 day a week and maintain a comfortable lifestyle. Sounds like something that's more an exception than the rule.
I was a corporate type who wanted to be there. Took a paycut to move there in my early 30's. I saw great opportunity in China in the early 2000s. I worked for a foreign hospital in Beijing the first gig. Had an excellent group of foreign doctors and proffesionals, none of the dregs more like people who wanted the experience.
I'm in Japan, where there may be a 5th category: Introverts and Aspies, who find a friendlier environment than overseas (or China).. This doesn't mean that Japanese are all introverts or Aspies, but there are enough of them that they know how to work with us in a pleasant and productive way.
@ I've been to China and am fully aware of what you say. Chinese are very direct and openly make fun of people who they consider obese, ugly or something. But in East Asian culture being quiet or mentally absent is not stigmatized as in the West. In the West people think you are weird if you're not constantly playing the social game.
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@@bellorusso But there you go again judging us from your Western viewpoint. While in comparison we seem more quiet than you, we have our different levels of social engagement just the same, so in the end we still stigmatise people that are TOO quiet. You really think we don't make fun of the shut-ins in Japan, the people that "date" their anime character, people that don't talk much, etc? We definitely still do, but we show it on what you Westerners would call a passive-aggressive manner, such as shunning others (yes, sometimes that lack of social content isn't out of being polite, many times we just don't want to be around you weirdos)
@ Hahaha...you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You were probably born or raised in USA and hang out with other Americanized Asians. I've been traveling to China on a regular basis and the least I need to do is pass judgments. Never heard of shyness being an issue in China. People are neither bullied or stigmatized for such a thing. And I see in the comment section that you're here to wreak havoc, nothing else. Take care, you little ABC
This type might be a sub-category of them all... but a common type I've noticed is foreign men who come here, still in the honey-moon phase and get wife'd up by the first halfway decent Chinese girl they date and have kids. I've noticed they often tend to be nice-guys that don't really know what they're getting into and get pushed by their Chinese girlfriends into marriage. Often they end up regretting it later and/or getting divorced. I've noticed Chinese girls can be quite good at getting foreign men to marry and have kids when these same men probably wouldn't have done so as easily to women in their home country.
7:00 This whole story is believable. I've had an expat in a bar approach me, and after a little bit of talking decided to tell me his secret to teaching little kids was coke. Gave him lots of energy which the children loved. Seriously man. What the f?
That means a few things *You are as abnormal as Satanic Serp *U easily buy into Goebbelsesque Poopaganda, so if u live in Nazi Germany, u WILL kill innocent Jews, no less *"Free Speech" is not only Overrated, as in the effects of these Junk videos, It is actually how "democracy" would destroy itself, melancholically unavoidable
I just love everything about your content, even your personality is so bold, like you're so strong that you talk about many deaths of people you know so casually and its impressive how strong you are, and it inspires me how you somehow can always steer things positively.
Honestly, I went for 3 reasons: 1. Stable income and savings for my 10 year plan, which is IMPOSSIBLE as an educator with student loans in the U.S. 2. I was already learning the language in college and wanted to put it to use. 3. I had NO IDEA what China was really like. I imagined neat architecture and an ancient culture to delve into. I'm still in Beijing 5 years later...but only because my wife is here. To me, China is like Cyberpunk 2077 gone wrong. We're working on a strategic exit plan, not sure what country to pick.
@@jamescorbett8261 Well, to appreciate Batman once needs to have seen New York. To appreciate Cyberpunk 2077 it helps to have been to Tokyo and Beijing. There are dystopian aspect in the way Chinese (and Japanese) megacities work which reflect in Bladerunner, Cyberpunk 2077 and such. The same way as Batman is a caricature of American cities.
@@michaelrenper796 go to China and be an English teacher lol. But thanks tho, I always thought it was implying the opposite of something. Good on you for not being condescending.
I lived in Russia for many years, and it's astounding how this resonates with my experience. Obviously it's a LOT easier to blend in, but these categories of foreigners are EXACTLY the types I would see there. The only difference is, most of the corporate guys were happy to be there seemingly :)
Those four types are not just foreigners, aren't they for all type of people... You have the people that are absorbed cultural/hobby aspect of their place, some people that like booz and women, some people that live for their job/career, and some people that try hard to cover up their loserness.
As an American who came as an immigrant….seeing the riots - I still feel safe and blessed living in the USA. Unfortunately those born here or more recent generations in the ‘land of freedom’ do not appreciate what they have.
The story of your arrival in China is fascinating. I have so much respect for all the South African expats in New Zealand. So often it has cost everything but the shirt off their back to get here, and they always grind hard to start a new life from scratch, often doing so whilst providing for their families as well.
I was an American sent to China as a hotel manager, first to Guilin, Dalian, and Shanghai. Company sponsored visa, suite in the hotel, no utilities, food etc. I enjoyed China learned the language culture and married a Shanghai girl. This was back in 1994 to 2001. I think China has changed since then so I felt I was there doing a great time.
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The thing is, it still was run by an authoritarian regime, they just hid their atrocities better by being cooperative with the West and not being aggressive. Even during your time there they were already rounding up Uighars and putting them in concentration camps, so I think it's more of you just didn't notice things, that idyllic time was a sham in a sense
@ I think its more likely that such tings are not widely reported locally in China; theres probably far more information about China available in the west than in China itself.
Wow. That’s an interesting life. You lived in some nice places too: Guilin, Dalian, Shanghai. Shanghai girls have a bad reputation now, but I think you must have done well.
I was a little bit type 1 - grew up on Chinese movies and fantasy movies, and when I got the chance to go to Beijing as a type 4 I loved it. All the food they thought I wouldn’t eat, the tourist locations, work, people, pollution etc. I really feel for those guys for what they’re going through currently.
Thanks for such an objective presentation! I have been to China 4 times with my Chinese wife and can relate to feeling isolated by Cantonese family conversation. I was “trapped” in Guangxi in January this year due to return flights being difficult to the U.S.A. The authoritarian shut down felt like trying to escape from an occupied country during W.W.2. It gave me a negative attitude toward the CCP but that is only a part of the China experience. I am 77 years old and worry a bit about needing any serious medical help in that country. In any case I will probably return again.
I moved to Shenzhen 2002-2005. Corporate move, Automotive background. Hired by a Chinese Company named Bailong headquartered in Guang Ming Bao. I know exactly what you are talking about. Hands off to you Mate for sharing your experiences Cheers
Winston, as an immigrant to America you probably appreciate this nation more than the average native. The Second Amendment is a big part of what makes the USA what it is. Please consider supporting The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF ORG ) verbally and / or financially, at any one time they have some 4o or more pro gun freedom cases in court, and they win circa 80% of them! So glad that you chose America.
@@michaelrenper796 Falling in love with someone who happens to be Chinese isn't the same thing as hanging a deep interest in Chinese culture and history and such other things, so it can still be a separate category.
PS I really wish I had watched you live. So many comments to make .... This is why I love watching your podcasts. You really know your stuff and put it out there. I'm so happy you left China so you can speak out on the reality of life in China -- both the good and the bad and the weird. Thanks.
You’d have to be nuts at this point. I think they’re talking about executing a couple of Auzies and are charging 2 more Canadians with espionage or vise versa.
1 more- a Canadian named Robert scheller originally sentenced to 15 yrs jail, then Canada arrested Meng Wanzhou Huawei's CEO & daughter of the original owner. A couple days later he was resentenced to DEATH. Along with the 2 Michael's arrested on fake spy charges to retaliate for her arrest. 20 months later they are still sitting in a cell without formal charges. Edit-Looks like charges were filed friday. Accused of spying.
Good video man I was living studying and working in China during 7 to 8 years and if I wouldn’t have met my girlfriend (Chinese) I would have fall in the second category. She really saved me from this self destructive habits that foreigners have there and can drag you along with. However after a while the local behaviours got under my skin . I felt I add to leave .. fortunately my jobs offer me to work in Bangkok it was a tough decision cause I felt good with my girlfriend . Anyway I took the opportunity and that was a complete change of my self I got into Muay Thai and learn to respect my self no more drinking habits nor smoking . Fortunately me and my girlfriend are still together even though she lives in China still. And due to covid it s hard not to see her . But I agree China is challenging and many people try to escape themselves by changing location . Sports helped me to solve those issues . Thank you and Godspeed to you and your wife.
Pretty spot on. I ran my factory in Shenzhen for 5 years and was very happy to move in January to Taiwan. Still setting up again here just like starting over BUT very happy to be OUT of China. I guess I'm category #4 hahaha.
You are not a "wierdo". I've watched a lot of your wonderful videos on China, and you are consistently well spoken and obviously have above average intelligence and compassion.
I recall a story my late uncle told me regarding China. He was a missionary priest who initially trained for the missions in China. His timing could not have been more unfortunate. He entered China in 1949, when the Communists won the Civil War and the Nationalists were pushed out to Taiwan. He was, as a foreign Catholic priest, in grave danger of being executed and was placed under house arrest. With the aid of a catholic chinese boatman he was smuggled out to Hong Kong and managed to get home (Ireland) from there. He retrained in the Korean language and spent time as a Chaplain in the US armed services in Korea in 1951 and eventually trained in the Japanese language and became a priest in Japan. While he was in China he was subject to psychological torture and many of his fellow priests were killed by the Chinese Communists. This made him very anxious and led to a destructive abuse of tobacco and alcohol and his premature death at the age of 55. While China was a highly stressful place and time for him he found the Japanese very kind and hospitable to work with. I have no doubt that his time in the far east, on his own as catholic priests are celibate, contributed to his early death.
They desperately need Catholic priests in China. As Anielesse Michel under possession by one of the demons told the Father during one of many Exorcisms, “you have stolen many souls from us”. In Chinese! Anielesse spoke only German , the German Priest new Chinese because he was a missionary there.
The way we behave is subtly different in many ways from the behavior of Chinese people. I think that makes them curious and often confused by us. The behavior of other Chinese people is predictable to them, but the behavior of foreigners is unpredictable. One time I was eating at a McDonald’s in China, and I put some French fries on my cheeseburger before eating it. Two women at a table nearby were staring at me and my burger, so amazed by this bizarre way in which foreigners eat their hamburgers.
@@Limastudent I haven't lived in Japan but I've been there for quite a bit, and never had that there. I was in Tsuyama-shi Okayama-ken most of the time, some holidaying in Kyoto and Osaka. The only kind of odd thing I have had is girls trying to chat me up while I'm standing next to my now wife - and sometimes shopkeepers getting frustrated that I don't understand some specific thing in dialect. Oh and old guys striking up talking to me out of the blue while I'm at a smoking spot. But I think it also has to do with how you dress and behave, I wear business casual or business attire always, you'll never see me in shorts and a tshirt or other bizarre stuff tourists (americans/canadians mostly) wear.
You forgot one category: travellers. They will stay in one country 3-6 months and teach English, just long enough to save money to go to the next place. Repeat and rinse. Or, then there are people like my American friend: he went to work in China because he could managed to save money from his salary towards paying his student loan. (He studied Far Eastern cultures.) And he could get work/ teaching experience, which he couldn't do in America.
I'm 1 & 3: I studied to High Intermediate Chinese, but I graduated 2009 - middle of the slump & couldn't find a job. I went to a Food industry fair & interviewed at Chinese companies & found someone to hire me. I wasn't disillusioned tho bc I had a tutor that lived through the Cultural Revolution-she was a college student. Even so, the levels of pollution WAS a little shocking. Especially after having studied in Taiwan.
Love listening to you Winston. I lived in South Africa in 19 8182. I loved it never forget it. I know things have changed. Glad you made it to the USA. Hope to meet you one day.
You have given out great information over the years such as Chinese mother-in-law leaving veggies in the corners lol. Unfortunately things have changed a bit in the past couple of years since you left. Google translate absolutely does work without a VPN and isn't blocked. I'm in western China far from the first tier cities and there's English on nearly every street and highway sign here. When you get married you don't have a criminal check although you do have a single status certificate required from your native country consolate. Nothing was required for a residence visa either. C-milk also stated you need a STI test prior to marriage in a video once and that isn't the case (in Sichuan province anyhow). I was able to easily get a bank account here with bank of China within a day and link to WeChat pay moments after. Sure it's different here but it's still better than living with the turmoil in the west. I'll go back to Canada when they all can figure out a mask works. By the way, you were confused as to why an Asian woman may want to bring her foreign husband back to China. That's simple. Status symbol to wave about her friends and likely past boyfriend/ex husband.
Visiting China (on vacation) was definitely my most exhausting trip for the reasons you mentioned (noise, pollution, etc). However, it was a very good trip.
One of my friends husband is an engineer and he spent a year in China supervising the building of factories (We are from NZ) and he hated it there. Not the ordinary people but the regime and the corruption. He also got sick with a virus he caught there and passed onto his wife and toddler son (this was 12 years before Covid) and they were all really sick for months and couldn't shake it off. It also kept recurring.......
Sad story... And here is just an example: go to any supermarket and in the herbs and spices department you will find Mrs Rogers or Master Foods garlic powder. All imported from China. Who knows what conditions this garlic is grown in or what pesticides and whatnot are used.
@@jossdionne9810 Speaking of interesting, in many cases, the Protestant missionary 'role' is also a 'cover'. These 'missionaries' are almost always white men from English-speaking countries who are quite alienated from white women. If you bring up the topic of love, romance and sex, they can talk your ear off about how inadequate white women are in those aspects of life, along with various theories about why they''re inadequate. I suspect some of them are incels; there's little doubt that all of them, to one degree or another, are starved for female affection. Basically, they've 'given up' on white women, and have come to China hoping to receive that affection from a Chinese girl (they've heard 'stories' about Chinese girls, you know) as a girlfriend, or maybe even as a wife. I often get the distinct impression that if things don't work out in China, when they return to the States, or Canada, or Australia, etc., they will swallow a handful of Red Pills and go full MGTOW, become part of the manosphere, and spend much of their free time watching RUclips videos by Sandman, Better Bachelor, Donovan Sharpe, Strong Successful Male, etc. And so it goes, I suppose.
Yes, thanks for them to take risk to spread out God's messages. I met a young handsome gentleman in his senior year in Cambridge. He learn Chinese and plan to do his mission in China one year before graduation. Any other young lady in Taxes. She went to China to send out God's messages. In her email she mentioned some of them lost job visas and can't stay. The mansion became harder and harder. Fully respect them.
Some of us corporate types enjoy the country, learn the language, integrate, have Chinese spouses, and do ok, though we still sometimes - ok often- bitch about it. Perhaps we're category 5, people who have a responsible reason to go, live responsibly, and end up acclimating and fitting in.
You are all the 5th column. So dont say something you do not knjow why it is happening. Maybe US is forcing CHina to accept you . Maybe China wants to make you Communist. We do not know. Just hope we can live our lives..
I would love a series where you guys travel the States! :D Additionally, for Americans/Canadians, it would be a good idea for people who want to travel to China to go to Taiwan. Taiwan is an independent state right now and has been actively building relations with the US. China says the world needs to repect the "One China" policy and that Taiwan is a rogue independant state that will be taken back by force if necessary. If I'm not mistaken the US put their embassy there recently. Seems like a lot safer way to experience some Chinese culture in the world's current state.
yes! I just wish they used Simplified Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese. Same with Hong Kong (not that it matters anymore bc theyre a part of the mainland now)
KMT aren't particularly nice either. They're not as bad as the Chicoms, whilst Taiwan is a righteous opponent to the oppressive Red Chinese regime? they aren't particularly righteous in their social and legal system
Thank you so much for doing these videos, I've found many of them to be very hardworking, career driven ,brilliant, skilful and very beautiful, when I look at your videos and one other guy with his baby's name is Lincoln you two guys do a hell of a job because you do it to expose the reality of China and everything that's involved with them,not like others who does it because someone is funding their pockets and they spread lies and hide the bad things about China, so keep up the awesome work bro,Abraham Lincoln Ramlochan from Trinidad 🇹🇹God bless and Godspeed,stay awesome.
my work mate, 50s, was divorced and his heart health meant he couldn't work in his trade, so he packed up and went to where the economy was booming. I can imagine he was a sexpat but he did bring an appropriately aged girl friend back to nz
Love the green screen choice. Actually made the video way more interesting being able to watch the people in the background while listening to you talk
Winston and Matt both have always had an excellent eye for all the "details" like this that surround their productions, that make their efforts superior to so many other vloggers.
i fit into the last one but i do enjoy going everytime. i usually go twice a year to canton fair and stay for 10-12 days. It is exhausting for sure, but it is always a great time and i leave with lots of memories :)
Oh dear, you just shattered one of my illusions. I thought that the Chinese kept their streets neat and free from waste. But the street behind you is a mess!
I grew up in Hawaii which is basically an extension of Asia, and yes, respect for teachers is strong. In return it's just expected that a teacher isn't going to be a drunk or an adulterer etc.
100% spot on. #2 You really mean Sexpat, AKA: Gweilo60. #3 Yeah, I think that is interesting. I met a lot of wonderful people from countries that just didn't offer them any opportunity. The criminals thing is also funny you mention. I never met so many criminals until I moved to China. I was so confused about how all of these dudes were criminals that just ran away from the west. I guess that would be like Nathan Rich. In America that dude would be delivering Pizza's. Instead he's in China... Well, where is he?Dude hasn't made a video in a month. Maybe he's out having tea with the police? Who knows. #4. Yeah, that's so true, I had a really good friend in Shenzhen that worked in the oil industry. Really awesome guy, but after his contract ended he returned back to America. It's funny how all of the stuff you mention is this video is so real.
China is a truly sobering place to live, I lived there for a year, it was tuff. I was 21. Now I’m 47 and I can live anywhere in the world because of my experiences in China.
i visited china twice and i fit the business category as i went there because im an electric bicycle mechanic and i needed to help my boss check the factories and stuff. while the factory visits themselves were boring (and often awkward) the rest of it was fun, but mostly because my boss is my dad and we pretty much visited factories for half a day then traveled around the town we were in for the rest of the day, and once few days you travel to another town
A funny story for me in regards to the foreigner “that is special because he’s not chinese” 3 years ago I lived in shanghai for studies and internship for about a year, and one time around christmas i walked out of the gym and saw something hanging off the side of my scooter. I initially thought it was just one of those marketing things that they often give around, but when i looked closer it was a bracelet with a medal with a chibi version of me on it. It had way too much detail including the logo on the shirt i was wearing, which was something you can only buy from a local shop in the us.. and i’m half asian half western european lol.. i never found out who it was. It even said merry christmas on the back of the amulet. Which means someone knew it was mine, and it was a very generic looking scooter. Also the person must have taken a picture of me or stalked me in order to know exactly what i was wearing to the gym in full detail.. it gave me the chills
Wow, somebody had a crush on you. I imagine I would react more positively than you did. I wouldn’t judge someone negatively for behaving that way. My only concern would be the small chance that it was actually a man.
who the fuck cares what that fat fuck thinks? seriously have never seen such a type b loser politician. cuomo is like his dad taking care of him when he doesn't know what to do.
@@MVDrudge Loser? Was it him or deBlasio whose wife stole $500 million of taxpayers' money, saying they will spend it on autism programs but did not and the money just disappeared. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
yeah please talk about south africa and the farm attacks and how white people are experiencing racism as you told because theres sadly alooot of ignorant people who only think black people can experience racism
It's always interesting to hear someone else's observations and experiences about China. Listening to you confirms and relates to some of mine and expands my knowledge of this brave nation. Congratz for the new start in the US. Blessings to your family and best of luck. Cheers
We need more journalism like this! Thank you for having balls and intelligence. A rare combo in the age of batty losers. Thanks from a Chinese Australian 👍
I know a guy who dropped out of high school as soon as he was old enough and went from working a checkout in a supermarket part time to teaching English in a university in China. They don't check credentials at all.
I used to own a 77 trans Am. I sold it bought an 82 Toyota Supra. Now I miss them both. I am now down to a ford box truck converted into a home on the road.
Winston, love your & C-milk's videos. It is heartbreaking what's happened in China, I have a Chinese (Hong Kong)ese friend who is trying to relocate to the U.S. due to all the craziness. I hope that things calm down here in the U.S. and also in China once better leaders get into power.
This guy is talking just out of his own frustration... I don't know the Philippines, but not all the foreigners in China fit in that 4 boxes as he said... There are many scenarios... Even the ones that go to China so the wife or husband could be close to their family or because they measure the situation and thought that China was better for their future... That somebody is ok or even like to live in China doesn't mean its necessarily a loser, as he expressed...
Valeriy TV yeah the busted old ugly guys who can’t accept that they’re too old to be whoring around go be sexpats in the Philippines. but there’s a lot more to appreciate than it being the “number one sex destination”...
@@ivan7453 i love Australia and have no sympathies for the ccp, but you guys are selling out to china for decades now because of your dependency on coal and steel industries. Such a big country with so many possibilities and resources but sometimes with a very bogan and docile mentality, used to doing what you are told by your corporate and colonial masters.
@@quoth_raven Unfortunately these are the decisions which I do not make nor agree with. Perhaps you might express your opinion to the greedy people profiting from selling my country out and the grubby politicians whom back them.
I have been watching your videos for a few weeks now and I have to say, they are very interesting. You and laowhy86 show a lot of content that I would never see in my life given how closed off China is. Also good common sense, keep up the good work!
Actually he can't be. 'African-American' is specifically defined in the U.S. to be a person who is, or is descended from, one of the Black peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. He can only legally check the 'White' box on the racial classification forms. To do otherwise would be wilful misrepresentation. Depending on the particular situation, doing so could lead to a fine and/or imprisonment, or even deportation.
My friend is a playabout. He lives near hong kong, you said the town. He teaches English to kids. Only works a few hours a week. Living off of the money he got from the divorcee.
I have family in China, I often stay and travel in and out of China. But I never like to mixed around of China people beside My Wife direct family. I am from Singapore.
I appreciate your 'shoe leather' videos. They are so much more real than the fluff pieces put out by pampered ex-pats or an Asian Studies professor at an American university. You have walked the walk among the locals and offer perceptive observations. Good job!
I am enjoying a lot your channel I am from Brazil and It is been amazing knowing China throw your point of view, thanks a lot and stay awesome. God Bless You and Your Family.
I have different categories, I also think you need 2 more categories: those that grew up in China (myself). And career builders, things move fast with little oversight. my categories are: expat, halfpat, quarterpat and nopat Also if they survive the 18months honeymoon period, they will stay longer
I think you're right. There were a lot of people who went to China because it was the next "happening place" for business. (There were a lot of people who went to Japan during the Bubble Years (late 80s) for exactly the same reason.) One American I worked with in Japan (knew no Japanese) came to Shanghai after a couple of years. He was definitely on the "what's the next place for business" trail.
Always informative watching your channel! All of 2019 I spent teaching in China and yours along with Laowahy86's channels have been so helpful in surviving the life there!
1. Sinophiles 2:25 2. Playabouts: 4:15 3. Criminals/Clean Slaters: 10:54 4. Business Types: 19:42 I fell sort-of into 1. I'm a semi-sinophile. I only went for about a month and visited a few Chinese private school/wushu schools, a few cities, climbed Mt Hua, Hong Kong and a Shaolin temple. I don't know more than basic Chinese and a decent amount of history. I do kung fu/tai chi but I'm not under any delusions about the reality of China. I don't know if I could live in China, it is hot and humid as hell. I could never keep up with them when it comes to baijiu drinking. Omg 2nd category is commonly found in thailand too. The well-to-do hippy. It costs money to pretend to be poor overseas. I can think of much better places to be a bum though. They'd be disgusting in any country though. 3rd category, I'm amazed the Chinese gov would let someone with a criminal record in. They could do a background check. I think the people you describe says more about the people you associate with? Scammers? Drug dealers? Celeb rapists? You have to be a little different to go to the other side of the world though, a language very few westerns can read or speak, alien culture, food, very undemocratic gov, etc. You have to have an escapist and adventurous mentality to even consider it. You have to be out of your mind to go to China to be a druggie though.
Just found your vlog few days ago, I hv to say that you know China very well and what you said it’s very true. Love your channel and just subscribed try to catch up all your past videos.
Just recently discovered Your stuff (1st was an RSA 'flick', and I went flabbergasted! Really that bad?). You really know how to tell a story, Almost like Pynchon, Chatwin, or Conrad! Keep up Your excellent work: Kudos and cheers from Sweden!
You're forgetting about the 5th category. The 5th category is being under 18 and dragged to China by a parent that falls under one of the four categories that you spoke of.
That sounds like a bad situation
sounds like you are in this situation…
lmao whats that like?
I think he means voluntarily
"I hate it here! I wanna go home!"-Jayden Smith
I know you're using a green screen, but I like to imagine it's standard practice in China for laowai to set up a camera and chair and lighting in the middle of the street and talk about random stuff for an hour at a time
This
Any idea how he hid the camera to get these videos?
@@brijeshdas3331 He hid it by concealment.
It wouldn't work because he'd be interrupted by damas and ayis all the time :D
step 1: destroy the CCP
Winston to CCP: _Don't mess with me. I have tons of incriminating footage of politicians._
CCP to Winston: _We have a recording of your Lemon Tree singing performance._
Lol😂
🤣🤣🤣
Lol
I know this is sudden, but the lemon tree song is one of my all time retro favs
Where can I check Winston's rendition?
Check and mate.
When I lived in Beijing, we had a saying to describe the 3 (m) types of foreigners “mercenaries, missionaries, and misfits”. I guess we could add “miscreant”.
I love that c-milk is off in the background. You guys having escaped china and keep working together is inspiring. I hope you continue to have fun adventures around the world.
I'm a clean slate foreigner here in China. Not that I'm a criminal. But I went thru a bad divorce and moved to Central America for a few years. Then came to China last August. It is def a different world here. Your videos give a lot of great info. Helps me to survive here.
Why is this guy wearing an SS Uniform?
@Hope For the Planet I'd rather be here than anywhere else at the moment.
@@terryfoss4845 It's ok, you'll understand in a few years. Just don't cut ties with overseas countries or people. You'll need them.
Terry, why are you wearing the SS uniform?
@@simeonadams6065 I taught History in USA for several years. The uniform is at a historical reenactment. And no...I'm not a Nazi.
About being a "phile" to a country then have the dreams shattered by the reality when actually arrived in that country. The Japanese have a social syndrome called "Paris Syndrome". This occurred due to Japanese's love to Paris as they view Paris is a elegant and romantic place. When they actually arrived in Paris, all they could see are the littered street and people moving in rush. Which they feel depressed as they had very high expectation, especially seeing large number of local working class not acting elegant and romantic in the way which the Japanese people would imagined.
Anyone who has some reason to believe the country he grew up in makes it hard for him to thrive can be open to dream a better future elsewhere.
The realitiy is that there is no paradise awaiting you anywhere, and it seems like each generation, from emigrants from poorer places to refugees escaping pure obliteration at home, will eventually realize that the society you move into does not really appreciate you because you are competition for resources!
Dog shit of chiens everywhere! C'est très chiant!!
It’s the French, what do you want
Katrina Morningstar liberal city’s anywhere are shit because liberals don’t take responsibility for anything so when everyone is a liberal nothing is fixed or clean.
@@k3th.b.w122 Spotted the American Trump-voter.
I lived in China for 13 years and while I feel myself wanting to chime in on the guy's points like "well there's an exception to that" or "you could have said it this way more effectively", this guy is pretty much bang on. I mean ultimately, anyone who has clearly spent the time in country and isn't self dellusional should eventually come to the same opinions. Definately a good series of videos to watch if you're interested in China.
I would not survive an year in communist China.
He is dangerous to Americans by distracting them from our countries problems. In 500 years, the majority Hung China will still be full of Hung Chinese. You can’t say the same for the west. In 500 years founding western stock Whites will be a minority at best in our own western homelands.
One of the smartest most respectable people I know went to Beijing and taught English for years. And said they’d never do it again.
Hilarious: “I learned very quickly to not hang out with the foreigners who used to work at the Kindergarten with me.” Most ironic statement I’ve heard in ages.
That's frightening
@@2b_or_not_2b_4gotten What a pathetic life you must lead.
@@2b_or_not_2b_4gotten either that or they're a pedo. That goes for most of that part of Asia tbh
@@2b_or_not_2b_4gottenppqa ==
@@2b_or_not_2b_4gottensome value community, some value solitude. Some enjoy playing pool with others, some like playing video games on their own. Woot.woot.
All these personal stories from you two is what makes your work the best when it comes to China and your adventures in general
Keep up the great work!
Totally agree with the four (maybe five) categories. Most of expats I know or have run into in Taipei are #1 ("Taiwanophiles"), who were drawn by just the abject "foreign-ness" of the society, culture, way of life, and language. A subset of this group are the types that have never felt particularly comfortable in or connected to their home culture - so, I guess there's a bit of the "clean slate" group in them, because they're looking for a place where they can fit in. It's seems like a bit of a contradiction, of course, because, as foreigners, we can never fully become Chinese/Taiwanese. But, in a strange way, I think being a total outsider works for these types, because then there's no expectation that they should "fit in," so they can be comfortable in their "outsider-ness", in contrast to the "black sheep of the family" feeling they have in their own society.
this is a very under-rated comment. It's extremely accurate, thank you
To follow up on what you said: if you don’t feel at home, it’s worse because it’s your home, but if you go elsewhere and know you’ll never blend in and accept that, it’s far easier to swallow.
@bifrostbeberast3246 I'd like to know what you do to be able to work 1 day a week and maintain a comfortable lifestyle. Sounds like something that's more an exception than the rule.
An old Arab saying. Believe half of what YOU SEE, And nothing of what YOU HEAR.
Especially in Arabic!!
But I have a hard time listening to that hauty guy.
Why do I keep seeing this phrase everywhere when I haven’t heard it before?
@@DewTime collective conscious ..it is so true, though.
That's Edgar Allan Poe who said this
That quote is attributed to edgar allen poe
I was a corporate type who wanted to be there. Took a paycut to move there in my early 30's. I saw great opportunity in China in the early 2000s. I worked for a foreign hospital in Beijing the first gig. Had an excellent group of foreign doctors and proffesionals, none of the dregs more like people who wanted the experience.
Love your videos! I was there from 2006-2017 in Guangdong, and you hit everything on the head. Glad you got out in time brother!
I'm in Japan, where there may be a 5th category: Introverts and Aspies, who find a friendlier environment than overseas (or China).. This doesn't mean that Japanese are all introverts or Aspies, but there are enough of them that they know how to work with us in a pleasant and productive way.
Good point. Asians are often gentler in that sense. Western culture is quite shallow and stigmatizes shy people.
@ I've been to China and am fully aware of what you say. Chinese are very direct and openly make fun of people who they consider obese, ugly or something. But in East Asian culture being quiet or mentally absent is not stigmatized as in the West. In the West people think you are weird if you're not constantly playing the social game.
@@bellorusso But there you go again judging us from your Western viewpoint. While in comparison we seem more quiet than you, we have our different levels of social engagement just the same, so in the end we still stigmatise people that are TOO quiet. You really think we don't make fun of the shut-ins in Japan, the people that "date" their anime character, people that don't talk much, etc? We definitely still do, but we show it on what you Westerners would call a passive-aggressive manner, such as shunning others (yes, sometimes that lack of social content isn't out of being polite, many times we just don't want to be around you weirdos)
@ Hahaha...you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You were probably born or raised in USA and hang out with other Americanized Asians. I've been traveling to China on a regular basis and the least I need to do is pass judgments. Never heard of shyness being an issue in China. People are neither bullied or stigmatized for such a thing. And I see in the comment section that you're here to wreak havoc, nothing else. Take care, you little ABC
Nah most of those guys(and gals) fall in the "I want to be special category."
Just google "the charisma man" its painfully realistic.
This type might be a sub-category of them all... but a common type I've noticed is foreign men who come here, still in the honey-moon phase and get wife'd up by the first halfway decent Chinese girl they date and have kids.
I've noticed they often tend to be nice-guys that don't really know what they're getting into and get pushed by their Chinese girlfriends into marriage. Often they end up regretting it later and/or getting divorced.
I've noticed Chinese girls can be quite good at getting foreign men to marry and have kids when these same men probably wouldn't have done so as easily to women in their home country.
7:00 This whole story is believable. I've had an expat in a bar approach me, and after a little bit of talking decided to tell me his secret to teaching little kids was coke. Gave him lots of energy which the children loved.
Seriously man. What the f?
awesome
With how annoying kids can be, I do get it
That means a few things
*You are as abnormal as Satanic Serp
*U easily buy into Goebbelsesque Poopaganda, so if u live in Nazi Germany, u WILL kill innocent Jews, no less
*"Free Speech" is not only Overrated, as in the effects of these Junk videos, It is actually how "democracy" would destroy itself, melancholically unavoidable
Crim that’s nuts
it's amphetamine. the secret is amphetamine
I love your honesty. Congratulations being a Dad The Best
I just love everything about your content, even your personality is so bold, like you're so strong that you talk about many deaths of people you know so casually and its impressive how strong you are, and it inspires me how you somehow can always steer things positively.
Honestly, I went for 3 reasons:
1. Stable income and savings for my 10 year plan, which is IMPOSSIBLE as an educator with student loans in the U.S.
2. I was already learning the language in college and wanted to put it to use.
3. I had NO IDEA what China was really like. I imagined neat architecture and an ancient culture to delve into.
I'm still in Beijing 5 years later...but only because my wife is here. To me, China is like Cyberpunk 2077 gone wrong. We're working on a strategic exit plan, not sure what country to pick.
@@jamescorbett8261 While obviously an exxageration, I see the point he makes. Have you ever lived in Beijing. I mean outside a Hotel?
@@jamescorbett8261 Well, to appreciate Batman once needs to have seen New York. To appreciate Cyberpunk 2077 it helps to have been to Tokyo and Beijing. There are dystopian aspect in the way Chinese (and Japanese) megacities work which reflect in Bladerunner, Cyberpunk 2077 and such. The same way as Batman is a caricature of American cities.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a dystopia , so if it's the opposite it's a utopia.. but for real tho it's just a dystopia
@@lib3rat3 The last time I checked "ABC gone wrong" meant "something gone worse" in common English. A good thing gone bad or a bad thing gone worse.
@@michaelrenper796 go to China and be an English teacher lol. But thanks tho, I always thought it was implying the opposite of something. Good on you for not being condescending.
21:55 Love how casually you say "We have been almost everywhere in China except for the west, you know', where all those concentration camps are"
Funny isn’t it? Just so accepted and known that there are concentration camps there.
I lived in Russia for many years, and it's astounding how this resonates with my experience. Obviously it's a LOT easier to blend in, but these categories of foreigners are EXACTLY the types I would see there. The only difference is, most of the corporate guys were happy to be there seemingly :)
From what i've heard being in russia for business is very pleasant. (except maybe for all the mandatory vodka)
Fellow CIA 😂🤣
I was there not on business, but I understand that businessmen enjoy it:)
Same in Mexico.
Those four types are not just foreigners, aren't they for all type of people... You have the people that are absorbed cultural/hobby aspect of their place, some people that like booz and women, some people that live for their job/career, and some people that try hard to cover up their loserness.
As an American who came as an immigrant….seeing the riots -
I still feel safe and blessed living in the USA. Unfortunately those born here or more recent generations in the ‘land of freedom’ do not appreciate what they have.
The story of your arrival in China is fascinating. I have so much respect for all the South African expats in New Zealand. So often it has cost everything but the shirt off their back to get here, and they always grind hard to start a new life from scratch, often doing so whilst providing for their families as well.
I was an American sent to China as a hotel manager, first to Guilin, Dalian, and Shanghai. Company sponsored visa, suite in the hotel, no utilities, food etc. I enjoyed China learned the language culture and married a Shanghai girl. This was back in 1994 to 2001. I think China has changed since then so I felt I was there doing a great time.
The thing is, it still was run by an authoritarian regime, they just hid their atrocities better by being cooperative with the West and not being aggressive. Even during your time there they were already rounding up Uighars and putting them in concentration camps, so I think it's more of you just didn't notice things, that idyllic time was a sham in a sense
@ I think its more likely that such tings are not widely reported locally in China; theres probably far more information about China available in the west than in China itself.
You were there during the golden years. It's not the same friend
Wow. That’s an interesting life. You lived in some nice places too: Guilin, Dalian, Shanghai. Shanghai girls have a bad reputation now, but I think you must have done well.
Sad to see that it was beautiful before.
I was a little bit type 1 - grew up on Chinese movies and fantasy movies, and when I got the chance to go to Beijing as a type 4 I loved it. All the food they thought I wouldn’t eat, the tourist locations, work, people, pollution etc. I really feel for those guys for what they’re going through currently.
@Maharaaja. ah, I’ll never not love them. So… wah, I guess?
Thanks for such an objective presentation! I have been to China 4 times with my Chinese wife and can relate to feeling isolated by Cantonese family conversation. I was “trapped” in Guangxi in January this year due to return flights being difficult to the U.S.A. The authoritarian shut down felt like trying to escape from an occupied country during W.W.2. It gave me a negative attitude toward the CCP but that is only a part of the China experience. I am 77 years old and worry a bit about needing any serious medical help in that country.
In any case I will probably return again.
I moved to Shenzhen 2002-2005. Corporate move, Automotive background. Hired by a Chinese Company named Bailong headquartered in Guang Ming Bao. I know exactly what you are talking about. Hands off to you Mate for sharing your experiences Cheers
Winston, as an immigrant to America you probably appreciate this nation more than the average native. The Second Amendment is a big part of what makes the USA what it is. Please consider supporting The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF ORG ) verbally and / or financially, at any one time they have some 4o or more pro gun freedom cases in court, and they win circa 80% of them!
So glad that you chose America.
LOL. I have multiple guns and you need to stay in CHINA. Winston doesn't have to advocate for ish.
U forgotten the 5th type. Foreigners who go to china because of their spouses.
Stay awesome.
Met my wife at Uni in Australia, thing is everyone would try to guess how we met, and they would always guess I traveled abroad to meet my wife.
This qualifies as "Sinophile".
@@michaelrenper796 Falling in love with someone who happens to be Chinese isn't the same thing as hanging a deep interest in Chinese culture and history and such other things, so it can still be a separate category.
Michael Renper nope
@@Tank1 well, that went nowhere fast.
PS I really wish I had watched you live. So many comments to make .... This is why I love watching your podcasts. You really know your stuff and put it out there. I'm so happy you left China so you can speak out on the reality of life in China -- both the good and the bad and the weird. Thanks.
You’d have to be nuts at this point. I think they’re talking about executing a couple of Auzies and are charging 2 more Canadians with espionage or vise versa.
He HAS nuts, but he ISN'T nuts -- big difference. :-)
1 more- a Canadian named Robert scheller originally sentenced to 15 yrs jail, then Canada arrested Meng Wanzhou Huawei's CEO & daughter of the original owner. A couple days later he was resentenced to DEATH. Along with the 2 Michael's arrested on fake spy charges to retaliate for her arrest. 20 months later they are still sitting in a cell without formal charges.
Edit-Looks like charges were filed friday. Accused of spying.
Serpentza forgets foreign scientists, engineers, entrepreneurs, business man and more.
Watch Red Corner and you'll understand just how bad it can get for anyone charged and incarcerated in China!
That's what happens to your citizens when your government doesn't stand up to the CCP.
Good video man I was living studying and working in China during 7 to 8 years and if I wouldn’t have met my girlfriend (Chinese) I would have fall in the second category. She really saved me from this self destructive habits that foreigners have there and can drag you along with. However after a while the local behaviours got under my skin . I felt I add to leave .. fortunately my jobs offer me to work in Bangkok it was a tough decision cause I felt good with my girlfriend . Anyway I took the opportunity and that was a complete change of my self I got into Muay Thai and learn to respect my self no more drinking habits nor smoking . Fortunately me and my girlfriend are still together even though she lives in China still. And due to covid it s hard not to see her . But I agree China is challenging and many people try to escape themselves by changing location . Sports helped me to solve those issues . Thank you and Godspeed to you and your wife.
does she speak english
Comment section Expert yes she was a gem
@@gerardalain4259 how did it go gerard
Good luck to you and I hope your girl is more faithful then the average girl in Chinese society. Out of curiosity, how come she didn't come with you?
I think this guy is honest and has true value. Worth the listen.
Pretty spot on. I ran my factory in Shenzhen for 5 years and was very happy to move in January to Taiwan. Still setting up again here just like starting over BUT very happy to be OUT of China. I guess I'm category #4 hahaha.
Hi Mike
It is destiny. You were lucky to do all those things. Now enjoy. We do what we can and what we enjoy.
You are not a "wierdo". I've watched a lot of your wonderful videos on China, and you are consistently well spoken and obviously have above average intelligence and compassion.
I recall a story my late uncle told me regarding China. He was a missionary priest who initially trained for the missions in China. His timing could not have been more unfortunate. He entered China in 1949, when the Communists won the Civil War and the Nationalists were pushed out to Taiwan. He was, as a foreign Catholic priest, in grave danger of being executed and was placed under house arrest. With the aid of a catholic chinese boatman he was smuggled out to Hong Kong and managed to get home (Ireland) from there. He retrained in the Korean language and spent time as a Chaplain in the US armed services in Korea in 1951 and eventually trained in the Japanese language and became a priest in Japan. While he was in China he was subject to psychological torture and many of his fellow priests were killed by the Chinese Communists. This made him very anxious and led to a destructive abuse of tobacco and alcohol and his premature death at the age of 55. While China was a highly stressful place and time for him he found the Japanese very kind and hospitable to work with. I have no doubt that his time in the far east, on his own as catholic priests are celibate, contributed to his early death.
They desperately need Catholic priests in China. As Anielesse Michel under possession by one of the demons told the Father during one of many Exorcisms, “you have stolen many souls
from us”. In Chinese! Anielesse spoke only German , the German Priest new Chinese because he was a missionary there.
So basically he did all this to end up partly giving up on his faith
@@asole100 In what way did he give up on his faith?
@@brendancoulter5761 The fact that he ended up turning to drugs for his problems instead of turning to God.
@@asole100 I think that proves he is a sinner, its not quite the same thing as giving up on his faith.
I found your channel just a few days ago. Im really enjoying the stuff you talk about. Much love from another Okie
Thanks
You guys hit it out of the park; great pod cast!!!
Also after my year in China I've grown to resent the attention.... it's no longer fun hearing "FOREIGNER" every-time you go for a walk. :/
I hear that
That will never stop. I know the frustration from living in Japan.
The way we behave is subtly different in many ways from the behavior of Chinese people. I think that makes them curious and often confused by us. The behavior of other Chinese people is predictable to them, but the behavior of foreigners is unpredictable.
One time I was eating at a McDonald’s in China, and I put some French fries on my cheeseburger before eating it. Two women at a table nearby were staring at me and my burger, so amazed by this bizarre way in which foreigners eat their hamburgers.
@@Limastudent I haven't lived in Japan but I've been there for quite a bit, and never had that there. I was in Tsuyama-shi Okayama-ken most of the time, some holidaying in Kyoto and Osaka. The only kind of odd thing I have had is girls trying to chat me up while I'm standing next to my now wife - and sometimes shopkeepers getting frustrated that I don't understand some specific thing in dialect. Oh and old guys striking up talking to me out of the blue while I'm at a smoking spot.
But I think it also has to do with how you dress and behave, I wear business casual or business attire always, you'll never see me in shorts and a tshirt or other bizarre stuff tourists (americans/canadians mostly) wear.
Why even move to China in the first place?
You forgot one category: travellers. They will stay in one country 3-6 months and teach English, just long enough to save money to go to the next place. Repeat and rinse. Or, then there are people like my American friend: he went to work in China because he could managed to save money from his salary towards paying his student loan. (He studied Far Eastern cultures.) And he could get work/ teaching experience, which he couldn't do in America.
I met some foreigners doing export business in China, they live in China for most of the year, some for tax purpose, some because of the lifestyle.
Maybe they are essentially just temporary tourists who aren't really included in Winston's classification system.
I'm 1 & 3: I studied to High Intermediate Chinese, but I graduated 2009 - middle of the slump & couldn't find a job. I went to a Food industry fair & interviewed at Chinese companies & found someone to hire me. I wasn't disillusioned tho bc I had a tutor that lived through the Cultural Revolution-she was a college student.
Even so, the levels of pollution WAS a little shocking. Especially after having studied in Taiwan.
Love listening to you Winston.
I lived in South Africa in 19 8182. I loved it never forget it. I know things have changed. Glad you made it to the USA. Hope to meet you one day.
You have given out great information over the years such as Chinese mother-in-law leaving veggies in the corners lol. Unfortunately things have changed a bit in the past couple of years since you left. Google translate absolutely does work without a VPN and isn't blocked. I'm in western China far from the first tier cities and there's English on nearly every street and highway sign here. When you get married you don't have a criminal check although you do have a single status certificate required from your native country consolate. Nothing was required for a residence visa either. C-milk also stated you need a STI test prior to marriage in a video once and that isn't the case (in Sichuan province anyhow). I was able to easily get a bank account here with bank of China within a day and link to WeChat pay moments after. Sure it's different here but it's still better than living with the turmoil in the west. I'll go back to Canada when they all can figure out a mask works. By the way, you were confused as to why an Asian woman may want to bring her foreign husband back to China. That's simple. Status symbol to wave about her friends and likely past boyfriend/ex husband.
Thanks Serpentza you have broken the culture barriers....Keep up, guy for reaching out to the rest of the globe
Visiting China (on vacation) was definitely my most exhausting trip for the reasons you mentioned (noise, pollution, etc). However, it was a very good trip.
Buck up.
One of my friends husband is an engineer and he spent a year in China supervising the building of factories (We are from NZ) and he hated it there. Not the ordinary people but the regime and the corruption. He also got sick with a virus he caught there and passed onto his wife and toddler son (this was 12 years before Covid) and they were all really sick for months and couldn't shake it off. It also kept recurring.......
Sad story... And here is just an example: go to any supermarket and in the herbs and spices department you will find Mrs Rogers or Master Foods garlic powder. All imported from China. Who knows what conditions this garlic is grown in or what pesticides and whatnot are used.
Didn't your mother teach you not to lie?
Didn't your mother get your toxic personality disorder treated? As I thought, your channel is as empty as your head. @@x6535
Interestingly enough, I lived in Portugal as an expat for 18 years and the four types of immigrant you described are exactly the same as in China
There's a fifth one: Evangelical Protestant missionaries working a 'cover' job as an ESL teacher.
Interested ones on Mission...
@@jossdionne9810 Speaking of interesting, in many cases, the Protestant missionary 'role' is also a 'cover'. These 'missionaries' are almost always white men from English-speaking countries who are quite alienated from white women. If you bring up the topic of love, romance and sex, they can talk your ear off about how inadequate white women are in those aspects of life, along with various theories about why they''re inadequate. I suspect some of them are incels; there's little doubt that all of them, to one degree or another, are starved for female affection. Basically, they've 'given up' on white women, and have come to China hoping to receive that affection from a Chinese girl (they've heard 'stories' about Chinese girls, you know) as a girlfriend, or maybe even as a wife. I often get the distinct impression that if things don't work out in China, when they return to the States, or Canada, or Australia, etc., they will swallow a handful of Red Pills and go full MGTOW, become part of the manosphere, and spend much of their free time watching RUclips videos by Sandman, Better Bachelor, Donovan Sharpe, Strong Successful Male, etc. And so it goes, I suppose.
@@arthurjohnson119 Ok . I'll just tell you my favorites are the Mormons...we rather call them: the Morons.
Arthur Johnson Interesting opinion and thank you for sharing it. One question what does “go full MGTOW” mean?
Yes, thanks for them to take risk to spread out God's messages. I met a young handsome gentleman in his senior year in Cambridge. He learn Chinese and plan to do his mission in China one year before graduation. Any other young lady in Taxes. She went to China to send out God's messages. In her email she mentioned some of them lost job visas and can't stay. The mansion became harder and harder. Fully respect them.
Some of us corporate types enjoy the country, learn the language, integrate, have Chinese spouses, and do ok, though we still sometimes - ok often- bitch about it. Perhaps we're category 5, people who have a responsible reason to go, live responsibly, and end up acclimating and fitting in.
You’d like the oppression 🤔
Chow Chee Bai Your choice for use a vulgar expression suggests you'd fit right in to what you imagine it to be.
@Chow Chee Bai now that sounds racist
You are all the 5th column. So dont say something you do not knjow why it is happening. Maybe US is forcing CHina to accept you . Maybe China wants to make you Communist. We do not know. Just hope we can live our lives..
Chow Chee Bai I'm an insider, and I'm also a westerner. With a bit of adjustment to expectations, it's not so bad.
The things We do as children and later realize it wasn't nice.
I would love a series where you guys travel the States! :D
Additionally, for Americans/Canadians, it would be a good idea for people who want to travel to China to go to Taiwan. Taiwan is an independent state right now and has been actively building relations with the US. China says the world needs to repect the "One China" policy and that Taiwan is a rogue independant state that will be taken back by force if necessary. If I'm not mistaken the US put their embassy there recently. Seems like a lot safer way to experience some Chinese culture in the world's current state.
yes! I just wish they used Simplified Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese. Same with Hong Kong (not that it matters anymore bc theyre a part of the mainland now)
KMT aren't particularly nice either. They're not as bad as the Chicoms, whilst Taiwan is a righteous opponent to the oppressive Red Chinese regime? they aren't particularly righteous in their social and legal system
Thank you so much for doing these videos, I've found many of them to be very hardworking, career driven ,brilliant, skilful and very beautiful, when I look at your videos and one other guy with his baby's name is Lincoln you two guys do a hell of a job because you do it to expose the reality of China and everything that's involved with them,not like others who does it because someone is funding their pockets and they spread lies and hide the bad things about China, so keep up the awesome work bro,Abraham Lincoln Ramlochan from Trinidad 🇹🇹God bless and Godspeed,stay awesome.
my work mate, 50s, was divorced and his heart health meant he couldn't work in his trade, so he packed up and went to where the economy was booming. I can imagine he was a sexpat but he did bring an appropriately aged girl friend back to nz
Cool story bro
Proud Male Karen Ok Karen!
@Ultima MIc na she's in her 40s and her kids are adults.
@Ultima MIc if you're going to pay through the nose for a girlfriend then better a 20y/o than a 40 something y/o
Love the green screen choice. Actually made the video way more interesting being able to watch the people in the background while listening to you talk
Thanks, I shot all that footage myself
Winston and Matt both have always had an excellent eye for all the "details" like this that surround their productions, that make their efforts superior to so many other vloggers.
i fit into the last one but i do enjoy going everytime. i usually go twice a year to canton fair and stay for 10-12 days. It is exhausting for sure, but it is always a great time and i leave with lots of memories :)
Oh dear, you just shattered one of my illusions. I thought that the Chinese kept their streets neat and free from waste. But the street behind you is a mess!
Always very informative. Thanks.
I'm high as a kite and Serpentza looks like he's flying above the street in his magical desk chair @19:08 and I think I'm losing it.
Hahaha 👍
Put one foot on the ground
I grew up in Hawaii which is basically an extension of Asia, and yes, respect for teachers is strong. In return it's just expected that a teacher isn't going to be a drunk or an adulterer etc.
100% spot on. #2 You really mean Sexpat, AKA: Gweilo60. #3 Yeah, I think that is interesting. I met a lot of wonderful people from countries that just didn't offer them any opportunity. The criminals thing is also funny you mention. I never met so many criminals until I moved to China. I was so confused about how all of these dudes were criminals that just ran away from the west. I guess that would be like Nathan Rich. In America that dude would be delivering Pizza's. Instead he's in China... Well, where is he?Dude hasn't made a video in a month. Maybe he's out having tea with the police? Who knows. #4. Yeah, that's so true, I had a really good friend in Shenzhen that worked in the oil industry. Really awesome guy, but after his contract ended he returned back to America. It's funny how all of the stuff you mention is this video is so real.
@ he really doesn't like China but that's the only place where he can 🥒🐈
Christ.... Imagining Gweilo60 as a sexpat will bring nightmares for sure!
Nathan isn’t rich he’s a B####
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Any more info about Gweilo60 please let me know haha I find this dude to be so strange. Seems to be living in his own willingly ignorant world.
Starting to watch your vlogs...enlightening down to Earth social, cultural and political insights
Thanks for sharing!
China is a truly sobering place to live, I lived there for a year, it was tuff. I was 21. Now I’m 47 and I can live anywhere in the world because of my experiences in China.
Jesus Christ! You have opened my eyes on some really serious things! Thanks a lot!!!
12:54 I'm Australian. I visited China for the 3rd time last year. I asked about 10-year tourist visas and i was told they don't exist for Australians.
Lies.
Love your no nonsense personality Winston. I have learned a lot from you. God bless u and ur family. Love ❤️ from so California.
Great what all you say is truth goddess you
And NorCal.
i visited china twice and i fit the business category as i went there because im an electric bicycle mechanic and i needed to help my boss check the factories and stuff. while the factory visits themselves were boring (and often awkward) the rest of it was fun, but mostly because my boss is my dad and we pretty much visited factories for half a day then traveled around the town we were in for the rest of the day, and once few days you travel to another town
Yes
1 / idiots
2/ fools
3/ incompetent ones
4/ dreamers
You forgot about the American SPY that all of those “Evil Uncles” are on alert/patrol for.
Lmao
@Ultima MIc copy and paste? earning your 50 cents
thats everyone from all 4 categories.
A funny story for me in regards to the foreigner “that is special because he’s not chinese” 3 years ago I lived in shanghai for studies and internship for about a year, and one time around christmas i walked out of the gym and saw something hanging off the side of my scooter. I initially thought it was just one of those marketing things that they often give around, but when i looked closer it was a bracelet with a medal with a chibi version of me on it. It had way too much detail including the logo on the shirt i was wearing, which was something you can only buy from a local shop in the us.. and i’m half asian half western european lol.. i never found out who it was. It even said merry christmas on the back of the amulet.
Which means someone knew it was mine, and it was a very generic looking scooter. Also the person must have taken a picture of me or stalked me in order to know exactly what i was wearing to the gym in full detail.. it gave me the chills
Ultima MIc that’s exactly the first thing i thought, it made me really look around like an eagle for the next couple of weeks. It scared me shitless
Wow, somebody had a crush on you. I imagine I would react more positively than you did. I wouldn’t judge someone negatively for behaving that way. My only concern would be the small chance that it was actually a man.
30803080308030803081 i thought maybe someone would come up to me but after a few months no one did
J Y Then, I think she was a girl, and she was very shy.
"Half Asian half western european lol" And I am half woman half fish. I am a mermaid.
I was wondering if you will talk about your opinion on De Blasio saying he wants racial justice using South Africa as a model.
who the fuck cares what that fat fuck thinks? seriously have never seen such a type b loser politician. cuomo is like his dad taking care of him when he doesn't know what to do.
@@MVDrudge Loser? Was it him or deBlasio whose wife stole $500 million of taxpayers' money, saying they will spend it on autism programs but did not and the money just disappeared. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
@@blasterelforg7276 Are you talking about Cuomo? Dude isn't even married right now. What are you talking about?
He wants farmers shot I guess.
yeah please talk about south africa and the farm attacks and how white people are experiencing racism as you told because theres sadly alooot of ignorant people who only think black people can experience racism
This is one of my favorite videos from serpentza - I can’t believe it’s already 2+ years ago, time is flying!
Good mic -- sound of whirlybird did not come through it loudly.
Gather on Me!
Listen to Prem Rawat!
1. Sinophiles 2. “Play-a-bouts” 3. Criminals and clean-slaters 4. Corporate types
what the difference between (3) and (4)?
@@sebastianschulz6531 4 are white collars who are most likely forced to go there for business, while 3 are people looking for a new start.
@@Nebel_des_Krieges true!
@@sebastianschulz6531 What's the difference? What? How are #3 and #4 remotely related? Lol...
Yeah, or students
It's always interesting to hear someone else's observations and experiences about China. Listening to you confirms and relates to some of mine and expands my knowledge of this brave nation. Congratz for the new start in the US. Blessings to your family and best of luck. Cheers
We need more journalism like this! Thank you for having balls and intelligence. A rare combo in the age of batty losers. Thanks from a Chinese Australian 👍
I know a guy who dropped out of high school as soon as he was old enough and went from working a checkout in a supermarket part time to teaching English in a university in China. They don't check credentials at all.
I used to own a 77 trans Am. I sold it bought an 82 Toyota Supra. Now I miss them both. I am now down to a ford box truck converted into a home on the road.
Winston, love your & C-milk's videos. It is heartbreaking what's happened in China, I have a Chinese (Hong Kong)ese friend who is trying to relocate to the U.S. due to all the craziness. I hope that things calm down here in the U.S. and also in China once better leaders get into power.
Gotta say I noticed the same thing in the Philippines. In the end I would avoid meeting new foreigners
This guy is talking just out of his own frustration... I don't know the Philippines, but not all the foreigners in China fit in that 4 boxes as he said... There are many scenarios... Even the ones that go to China so the wife or husband could be close to their family or because they measure the situation and thought that China was better for their future...
That somebody is ok or even like to live in China doesn't mean its necessarily a loser, as he expressed...
@Valeriy TV Thought that was Thailand.
@Valeriy TV kind sir please dont promote philippines like that..
Valeriy TV yeah the busted old ugly guys who can’t accept that they’re too old to be whoring around go be sexpats in the Philippines. but there’s a lot more to appreciate than it being the “number one sex destination”...
Valeriy TV in demand by the same old ugly dudes that can’t get any in their own country
I am very grateful to live in Australia. I have no intention to live in or even to visit China.
Won't Australia be chinese very soon?
@@quoth_raven Quoth, go back to CCP headquarters, please.
@@ivan7453 i love Australia and have no sympathies for the ccp, but you guys are selling out to china for decades now because of your dependency on coal and steel industries. Such a big country with so many possibilities and resources but sometimes with a very bogan and docile mentality, used to doing what you are told by your corporate and colonial masters.
@@quoth_raven Unfortunately these are the decisions which I do not make nor agree with. Perhaps you might express your opinion to the greedy people profiting from selling my country out and the grubby politicians whom back them.
real@@quoth_raven
Same 4 categories here in Thailand.
I have been watching your videos for a few weeks now and I have to say, they are very interesting. You and laowhy86 show a lot of content that I would never see in my life given how closed off China is. Also good common sense, keep up the good work!
45:50 serpentza: I'm an African American 👍😂
Funny but true
Does he hold US citizenship? If not, then it's not true.
@ Every time I see your face, you are being a douchebag.
(Which is no surprise to me, because I can read faces quite well.)
@ dude calm down, that's a stretch to say the least
Actually he can't be. 'African-American' is specifically defined in the U.S. to be a person who is, or is descended from, one of the Black peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. He can only legally check the 'White' box on the racial classification forms. To do otherwise would be wilful misrepresentation. Depending on the particular situation, doing so could lead to a fine and/or imprisonment, or even deportation.
@@arthurjohnson119 aw, get out of here with your semantic facts and logic 😜
My friend is a playabout. He lives near hong kong, you said the town. He teaches English to kids. Only works a few hours a week. Living off of the money he got from the divorcee.
Guangdong or Shenzhen? Shenzhen is the nearest to Hong Kong, Lowu is the border between that 2 cities.
@@wonderwhy6133 he used to live in Guangdong, moves because he found a cheaper place on the outside of Shenzhen. He seems to like it
Reality I hope your friend is enjoying his life over there, stay safe and healthy. Stay away from trouble 😊
LBH I imagine.
@Ultima MIc She has money, he got a lawyer. I don't know the laws in China. I live in the USA.
I have family in China, I often stay and travel in and out of China. But I never like to mixed around of China people beside My Wife direct family. I am from Singapore.
Vary 😞
I appreciate your 'shoe leather' videos. They are so much more real than the fluff pieces put out by pampered ex-pats or an Asian Studies professor at an American university. You have walked the walk among the locals and offer perceptive observations. Good job!
I am enjoying a lot your channel I am from Brazil and It is been amazing knowing China throw your point of view, thanks a lot and stay awesome. God Bless You and Your Family.
I have different categories, I also think you need 2 more categories: those that grew up in China (myself). And career builders, things move fast with little oversight.
my categories are: expat, halfpat, quarterpat and nopat
Also if they survive the 18months honeymoon period, they will stay longer
I think you're right. There were a lot of people who went to China because it was the next "happening place" for business. (There were a lot of people who went to Japan during the Bubble Years (late 80s) for exactly the same reason.) One American I worked with in Japan (knew no Japanese) came to Shanghai after a couple of years. He was definitely on the "what's the next place for business" trail.
Always informative watching your channel! All of 2019 I spent teaching in China and yours along with Laowahy86's channels have been so helpful in surviving the life there!
1. Sinophiles 2:25
2. Playabouts: 4:15
3. Criminals/Clean Slaters: 10:54
4. Business Types: 19:42
I fell sort-of into 1. I'm a semi-sinophile. I only went for about a month and visited a few Chinese private school/wushu schools, a few cities, climbed Mt Hua, Hong Kong and a Shaolin temple. I don't know more than basic Chinese and a decent amount of history. I do kung fu/tai chi but I'm not under any delusions about the reality of China. I don't know if I could live in China, it is hot and humid as hell. I could never keep up with them when it comes to baijiu drinking. Omg
2nd category is commonly found in thailand too. The well-to-do hippy. It costs money to pretend to be poor overseas. I can think of much better places to be a bum though. They'd be disgusting in any country though.
3rd category, I'm amazed the Chinese gov would let someone with a criminal record in. They could do a background check.
I think the people you describe says more about the people you associate with? Scammers? Drug dealers? Celeb rapists? You have to be a little different to go to the other side of the world though, a language very few westerns can read or speak, alien culture, food, very undemocratic gov, etc. You have to have an escapist and adventurous mentality to even consider it. You have to be out of your mind to go to China to be a druggie though.
Just found your vlog few days ago, I hv to say that you know China very well and what you said it’s very true. Love your channel and just subscribed try to catch up all your past videos.
Was impressed initially but when you acquired Smokey and the Bandit Trans Am, won me over.
"Kurt Russell, who's your favourite 80's action movie hero?"
- I'm a big fan of Winston.
Good video at last, unbiased and to the point. Thumbs up from me for this one. Well done.
It's pretty telling that South Africa has gotten so bad that he'd rather be in China.
Sitting pretty!!
There are a lot of South Africans living in China for the same reason
If he was smart, he would have come to Canada, but whoever lets you in...
Plus he can be with C-Milk
Just recently discovered Your stuff (1st was an RSA 'flick', and I went flabbergasted! Really that bad?).
You really know how to tell a story, Almost like Pynchon, Chatwin, or Conrad!
Keep up Your excellent work: Kudos and cheers from Sweden!
Thank you! Welcome to the channel
You are very interesting human being. I love your honesty and how you explain things. Coming from a Tanzanian.