Imagine giving this guy a jet black solar 8 string and 300 metal zones and watching him play a stevie ray vaughan lick and complain that its not bright and chimy
@djay6651 this is going to sound dumb af but I'm new to playing guitar but how to I get my fender strat to sound more metal I guess for lack of a better word ? I've got a cheap amp with overdrive but it still doesn't sound like legit metal. Sorry I know that sounds dumb
@tristansteiner7076 It all depends on your effects chain, and your amp will affect the tone as well. My personal effects chain currently is Rocktron Compressor >TC Electronic Rush Boost > Dolamo D-8 OD > Danelectro Fab Metal > Danelectro Fab Chorus > Joyo Vintage Phase > Azor Analog Delay > Peavey Bandit Red Stripe 112. That's the only chain I have set set up, but I have at least two more I can put together. My current one, depending on what pedals I have on, can do blues, 80's clean/glam metal, punk/alt rock and straight heavy metal. Fortunately, my Bandit is a dual channel amp, so I can switch between a clean and dirty channel. If I want a LOT of hairy distortion, I'll run into the dirty channel, with one of my drive pedals stacking into the dirty channel's gain.
He's using plenty. Most metal tones arent as distorted as you'd expect. Lower gain will sit better in a mix and bass will really beef everything up. Whenever I record metal bands, I pretty much always have the gain around where he's sitting. Maybe a tiny bit more but not much.
Having a shit ton of distortion never sounds good because you lose all the expression and muddies the sound. Alittle over half way is plenty and believe it or not the master volume effects your sound the most when it comes to distorted tones
@@rybo0072the thing is he doesnt have a “shit tonne” of distortion. He barely has any ever. Theyre not saying he needs a bunch of it just some at least, he has like the weird sounding clean metal in this.
I doubt he would survive Blood Mountain as well. Songs like Circle of Cysquatch are way too heavy (or "noisy") for this guy forever stuck in the '60's-'70's (big exception for RHCP, which he probably calls the GOAT)
Uhm...people who play blues or classic rock. I know its very hard for you to grasp but some of us prefer the feel of the guitar rather than mindless shredding.
“Metal music doesnt sound good with Single coil pickups” My guy Metal was INVENTED on single coil pickups (tony iommi’s p90’s, jimmy page’s tele, ritchie blackmore’s strat)
We would go that route. I was a Gibson teenager and never looked any further than SGs and Pauls. Now as an adult, I switched to Fender just like my dad (he was a blues musician) and I cannot be more confident with the way I can improve my skills now than when I was only into distortion and humbuckers.
What Malmsteens Strat has humbuckers? First lve heard... scalloped fretboard... You can buy a Malmsteen replica, 3 hot single coils. It's a Strat thru a Marshall.
@@mudfightmaster4275 i have a squier 70s strat and if you crank it through a plexi or jcm 800 its a screamer also a classic vibe 50's i usually use them for solos in studio because they are snappier and cut through the mix better usually.
I’m not 100% sure what they played in the 80s but i know now they play strats with the pickups swapped out for single coil size humbuckers like the seymour duncan hot rails for example
Tony iommi used single coil p90’s for the first album plus a strat on one song. Jimmy page used tele’s as well. Metal can be used with an acoustic if you have the drive haha
Gotta use more distortion. Single coils can be great for metal because they have something of a glassy sound to them. Just gotta crank up the distortion
Yeah, pickups really don’t matter as much as people think. People like Blackmore and Malmsteen are remembered as greats of the genre, but they exclusively used single coil strats.
I mainly just got a humbucker guitar because I can’t really afford to get the good equipment right now so my gear consists of a mini orange amp, a karaoke machine, and a sawtooth amp, and to achieve heaviness I use a Yamaha HSS fed into the mini connected into the karaoke machine as the mini has a 8 ohm output jack. Using my single coil guitar still sounds heavy but the humbucker pushes it.
I mean, there's Loathe, that play on P'90s, and yet have absolutely jaw-breakingly heavy songs(apart from couple more atmospheric ones, such as Two Way Mirror)
Get this guy a 5153 head with a v30 cab. He would lie on the floor crying for forgiveness. In all seriousness, a lot of metal tone is not the distortion pedals, what you need to do is get a proper high gain amp like a mesa dual rec, peavey 5150, hell even a jcm800 and boost it using a ts9 or a ts808, with no gain, tone maxed and level at 1-1.5 o’clock. If you don’t have those amps available, get an amp sim. Also, for a single coil chunky metal tone, listen to Biffy Clyro. Thank me later.
Strats and single coils can be pretty darn metal, what matters the most is technique and tone, tuning can also help, a lot of metal songs are played on half or a whole step down. You need more gain and more bass, the tone you used sounds too flat and thin for metal, would work for rock, but for metal, it needs to be BEEFY!!
I think single coils can work, especially if you use them as a stylistic choice, but I think that a lot of people, myself included, prefer the sound of humbuckers
I think if you’re playing a melodic lead solo over a metal song, there’s nothing wrong with single coils and they might actually cut through great in a mix where rhythm guitar and bass are going to have so much low end. You just CANNOT do the low end rhythm stuff with single coils or it sounds like ass. EMGs are good too
@@Augrills I’d argue the opposite, the mids of a humbucker cut through a mix much better most of the time, you actually want as full a sound as you can get.
@@TheLeadG That’s not really the opposite, friend. I think everyone can agree for rhythm playing in heavy metal, you need humbuckers. And for lead playing, most will prefer humbuckers but single coils can work. A tele single coil might work for rhythm cause it’s pretty beefy, but that’s more the exception than the rule
I feel like it kinda matters what you're using it for since, for me, humbuckers sound a lot better in the mix for distorted rythm parts, and single coils sound a little more articulate so good for lead parts but you could pull it off however technically. I just feel like it's easier to get a decent metal tone on humbuckers vs traditional single coils
bro there is no such thing as "metal guitars". it doesnt matter if you have a strat, just have fun playing music and improve yourself. dont give a single f to anyone
“You need humbuckers for metal” No you don’t. Single coils are better for leads anyway. Plenty of metal doesn’t rely on chords for their main riffs anyway
Dave Murray of Iron Maiden has used a Strat for decades; mostly with SSS configuration, but a few with HSS. In fact, he used Paul Kossoff's '57 Strat from Maiden's beginnings until the early 90's.
It was good and i also have a strat and love to play metal. Both riffs sounded good but the first one was in the wrong strat position. I think it was 2 or 4. For metal i would recommend 1 and sometimes 3. The others give a more funky feel that does not match.
Yeah, metal heads are followers. They don't think independently. and in real life when you get ten guitarists together they all sound different... unless they're metalheads, then it's all uniforms and fucking rules. The ONLY two 'metal' bands I can stand are (Aside from Black Sabbath who were the first, and raw as hell) Motorhead and Pantera they're as much punk as they are metal. (Thrash CAME from hardcore) Stand your ground, and make your own music. Strats rule!
Jimi Hendrix is the perfect example of anything can be metal. It may have been psychedelic but his performance of wild thing at Monterey just feels heavy.
I think you dont need any of those pedals to get that metal tone YOU want. For the reason that youll never play metal in front of an audience or any uploads. Deep inside if feel you do.
Strats sound awesome when you actually use an overdrive pedal that doesn’t sound crunchy lol and if you are worried about humming all you gotta do is use a noise gate
Obviously, whoever said Strats aren’t Metal enough don’t know that Glenn Tipton, Yngwie Malmsteen, Ritchie Blackmore, K K Downing, Dave Murray and many others use or have used Strats!
"Stacked up on distortion"
*Adds boost at 9 o'clock*
yeah this guy has no clue what hes talking about
@@spaghettisauce445he really doesnt
Yo I understand this all too well
I feel like I'm going crazy and realized somehow my dial on my ts9 moved a while 60 degrees xD
Bro's humbucker metal tone is my single coil metal tone
I feel just the concept of a 7 string would atomize this guy
Imagine giving this guy a jet black solar 8 string and 300 metal zones and watching him play a stevie ray vaughan lick and complain that its not bright and chimy
@@drewseverson1816lmfao mz's are kinda shit tho
@@drewseverson1816lol
9 string 💀
@@KidnapTit’s like when a brit eats a hot cheeto for the first time
“Stacked up distortion”
Uses the high end distortion equivalent of the crunch setting on a boss katana or line six spider
On 3
@@sashabagdasarow497 putting at 4 would just be TOO INSANE guys! Everyone knows that ! 😅
Idk but my line six crunch is really good
@@Questtangy Nobody said it's bad. It's just not hi-gain metal
He also used Boss pedal, so you're not that far off
“stacked up on distortion” uses a slight overdrive
maan i agree but you gotta ease into these things, he's still new to metal give him a break
he’s terrified of overdrive
@@festiveFurry not really. Its not like its a mental battle to turn up distortion and play some chuggs. Bro just doesnt want to.
Baby steps...
That was definitely enough distortion.
bro when he realizes u can go over 5 on the distortion knob
“Stacked up on distortion” using the hard rock tone on garage band
Accurate
nah I put my acoustic through that and it literally sounded like some shoegaze shit like it was all noise even with the gate lmao
The hard rock tone sounds way heavier than this
Newsflash: you can play any music on any guitar, it's all about what gear you put your guitar through.
Even then, it’s like 90% of the tone in just cabinet, more specifically, the speaker.
Exactly. It's all about the effects chain. I play metal all the time on my Squier Mini Strat.
@djay6651 this is going to sound dumb af but I'm new to playing guitar but how to I get my fender strat to sound more metal I guess for lack of a better word ? I've got a cheap amp with overdrive but it still doesn't sound like legit metal. Sorry I know that sounds dumb
@tristansteiner7076 It all depends on your effects chain, and your amp will affect the tone as well. My personal effects chain currently is Rocktron Compressor >TC Electronic Rush Boost > Dolamo D-8 OD > Danelectro Fab Metal > Danelectro Fab Chorus > Joyo Vintage Phase > Azor Analog Delay > Peavey Bandit Red Stripe 112.
That's the only chain I have set set up, but I have at least two more I can put together. My current one, depending on what pedals I have on, can do blues, 80's clean/glam metal, punk/alt rock and straight heavy metal.
Fortunately, my Bandit is a dual channel amp, so I can switch between a clean and dirty channel. If I want a LOT of hairy distortion, I'll run into the dirty channel, with one of my drive pedals stacking into the dirty channel's gain.
@djay6651 awesome man thank you helping out, I gotta get some more stuff and upgrade my amp for sure as well
You also don’t ever use enough distortion
maan i agree but you gotta ease into these things, he's still new to metal give him a break
@@festiveFurrynah like he NEVER has enough distortion lol not just this
He's using plenty. Most metal tones arent as distorted as you'd expect. Lower gain will sit better in a mix and bass will really beef everything up. Whenever I record metal bands, I pretty much always have the gain around where he's sitting. Maybe a tiny bit more but not much.
Having a shit ton of distortion never sounds good because you lose all the expression and muddies the sound. Alittle over half way is plenty and believe it or not the master volume effects your sound the most when it comes to distorted tones
@@rybo0072the thing is he doesnt have a “shit tonne” of distortion. He barely has any ever. Theyre not saying he needs a bunch of it just some at least, he has like the weird sounding clean metal in this.
you should try turning on the distortion pedal, it usually works better that way
💀 yea and plug the guitar through it as well.
Really gotta learn palm muting. It’s essential in most metal songs
True story. It's crucial for metal
Exactly. How am i supposed to play breakdowns without palm mutes haha!!
Problem is how he holds the pick and plays would all need to change to compensate. He needs to basically re Learn his form essentially.
Cant do that on a vintage fender trem. The saddle screws will chew you up
@@daniellowry660 I have a 2012 Strat, and it feels fine for me. Although, it was uncomfortable at first
Walk made me shit myself laughing 😂
The tone from any mastodon song pre blood mountain would kill this dude
mmm... "March of the Fire Ants". Crushing. It'd straighten his REO Speedwagon hair right out.
I doubt he would survive Blood Mountain as well. Songs like Circle of Cysquatch are way too heavy (or "noisy") for this guy forever stuck in the '60's-'70's (big exception for RHCP, which he probably calls the GOAT)
March of the fire ants
The tone of early obituary too
White whale holy grail
I showed this guy Dying Fetus and he instantaneously imploded
i've never had to say this before but that tone needs more gain
Who in their right minds vows to not play metal 😂
Good point
Me before I started playing RATM
Ppl who dont like metal
Uhm...people who play blues or classic rock. I know its very hard for you to grasp but some of us prefer the feel of the guitar rather than mindless shredding.
@@aniketsengupta2332”mindless shredding” you don’t know shit
Single coils most definitely work with metal, they just require a bit more distortion.
Soooo something he doesn’t use?
@@OuchMyHoovesyeah
@@OuchMyHoovesyeh
@@OuchMyHoovesyep
Nah
Bro just called 96 bitter beings metal
cky is most def metal imo
More gain bro, “stacked up on distortion”
“Metal music doesnt sound good with Single coil pickups”
My guy Metal was INVENTED on single coil pickups (tony iommi’s p90’s, jimmy page’s tele, ritchie blackmore’s strat)
i would hardly call 96 bitter beings a metal song
I know right? The closest thing is probably punk
Hard rock maybe? I think the singer kind of growls at times and the lyrics have a dark nature, but def more hard rock than metal
I agree
Nobody would
@@commie22it’s skate punk it’s not metal at all
Who ever said Metal doesn’t sound good on single coils, clearly doesn’t like Maiden.
not enough distortion
Billy Corgan always used big muffs for his massive strat sound. i'd go that route
We would go that route. I was a Gibson teenager and never looked any further than SGs and Pauls. Now as an adult, I switched to Fender just like my dad (he was a blues musician) and I cannot be more confident with the way I can improve my skills now than when I was only into distortion and humbuckers.
They both sound good but the humbuckers sounded better on the first riff but the second riff the single coils sounded better
probably because the second riff is kinda bluesy? As far as metal goes at least
I thought 96 actually sounded closer to the original when he used the humbuckers though.
Yngwie Malmsteen is a metal god that use a Strat.
But He was the lead guitarist I believe
yeah a heavily modified strat, his pickup is single coil thats winded like a humbucker, so no, itsnot a strat at all😊
What Malmsteens Strat has humbuckers?
First lve heard... scalloped fretboard... You can buy a Malmsteen replica, 3 hot single coils.
It's a Strat thru a Marshall.
@@mudfightmaster4275 i have a squier 70s strat and if you crank it through a plexi or jcm 800 its a screamer also a classic vibe 50's i usually use them for solos in studio because they are snappier and cut through the mix better usually.
Scalp the freatboard too
Bro just called 96 quite bitter beings a “metal song”
because 96 quite bitter beings is a metal song
@@SubContraBass_no
@@slammetalgirl well then what the fuck is it
it is most def metal
@@slammetalgirl it is metal
So many metal bands from the 80s played metal on strat-types that have single coils. First band that comes to mind is iron maiden.
I’m not 100% sure what they played in the 80s but i know now they play strats with the pickups swapped out for single coil size humbuckers like the seymour duncan hot rails for example
@@mixar4457Standard strats are what they started with (the first atudio album uses a Les Paul, but Stratton left)
nobody cares
Tony iommi used single coil p90’s for the first album plus a strat on one song. Jimmy page used tele’s as well.
Metal can be used with an acoustic if you have the drive haha
This dude makes Iron Maiden sound like Morbid Angel
Try using some high gain hums like damarzio gravity storm pickups
Or Seymour Duncan Nazgûl’s
Gotta use more distortion. Single coils can be great for metal because they have something of a glassy sound to them. Just gotta crank up the distortion
Yeah, pickups really don’t matter as much as people think. People like Blackmore and Malmsteen are remembered as greats of the genre, but they exclusively used single coil strats.
I mainly just got a humbucker guitar because I can’t really afford to get the good equipment right now so my gear consists of a mini orange amp, a karaoke machine, and a sawtooth amp, and to achieve heaviness I use a Yamaha HSS fed into the mini connected into the karaoke machine as the mini has a 8 ohm output jack.
Using my single coil guitar still sounds heavy but the humbucker pushes it.
I mean, there's Loathe, that play on P'90s, and yet have absolutely jaw-breakingly heavy songs(apart from couple more atmospheric ones, such as Two Way Mirror)
Get this guy a 5153 head with a v30 cab. He would lie on the floor crying for forgiveness. In all seriousness, a lot of metal tone is not the distortion pedals, what you need to do is get a proper high gain amp like a mesa dual rec, peavey 5150, hell even a jcm800 and boost it using a ts9 or a ts808, with no gain, tone maxed and level at 1-1.5 o’clock. If you don’t have those amps available, get an amp sim. Also, for a single coil chunky metal tone, listen to Biffy Clyro. Thank me later.
There are exceptions, for example all the classic Mötorhead albums were recorded with singles (RIP “Fast” Eddie Clark)
What is cool is that Daron Malakian recorded the self titled soad album with a strat I believe
He did!
Strats and single coils can be pretty darn metal, what matters the most is technique and tone, tuning can also help, a lot of metal songs are played on half or a whole step down.
You need more gain and more bass, the tone you used sounds too flat and thin for metal, would work for rock, but for metal, it needs to be BEEFY!!
I think single coils can work, especially if you use them as a stylistic choice, but I think that a lot of people, myself included, prefer the sound of humbuckers
I think if you’re playing a melodic lead solo over a metal song, there’s nothing wrong with single coils and they might actually cut through great in a mix where rhythm guitar and bass are going to have so much low end. You just CANNOT do the low end rhythm stuff with single coils or it sounds like ass. EMGs are good too
@@Augrills I’d argue the opposite, the mids of a humbucker cut through a mix much better most of the time, you actually want as full a sound as you can get.
@@TheLeadG That’s not really the opposite, friend. I think everyone can agree for rhythm playing in heavy metal, you need humbuckers. And for lead playing, most will prefer humbuckers but single coils can work. A tele single coil might work for rhythm cause it’s pretty beefy, but that’s more the exception than the rule
@@Augrills my point is, can it work? Kinda. Does it work well? Not really. I’m saying it’s not optimal, it won’t cut as well or sound as good.
@@TheLeadG depends on the guitar, the day, all kinds of stuff, but I’d agree it’s usually not the best choice
Wait until he learns theres songs that go at 180 bpm and faster...
Ahem Fight Fire With Fire by Metallica...
I feel like it kinda matters what you're using it for since, for me, humbuckers sound a lot better in the mix for distorted rythm parts, and single coils sound a little more articulate so good for lead parts but you could pull it off however technically. I just feel like it's easier to get a decent metal tone on humbuckers vs traditional single coils
bro there is no such thing as "metal guitars". it doesnt matter if you have a strat, just have fun playing music and improve yourself. dont give a single f to anyone
You LOVE that CKY riff. Lol
At least I'm not the only person thinking that!!
Stratocasters work in metal and even Single Coils can work in metal.
The dude just needs some time to figure out, how dial in a good metal tone.
If you put a big muff on any guitar it'll sound huge
If you put mid-drive distortion on a strat, not so much
single coil metal sounds so unhinged and awesome
How the fuck do you use more distortion when you play nirvana than you do playing pantera
Not gonna lie that sounded pretty bad. Throw an emg in that Thang and turn the gain up. Scoop the mids and drop c!
If you are getting into metal please make some vids on kirk hammet of james hetfield 🙏
Bro both of those tones suck if you don't need a noise gate you ain't doing it right
the distortion pedal goes up further than 2, you know that right?
I learned to play 96 quite bitter beings bc of viva la bam
“Metal music doesn’t sound good on single coiled guitars” Loathe and LANDMVRKS would like you have a word with you
Don't listen to them. Single coils work for metal.
Show him Hammer Smashed Face by Cannibal Corpse
Huh, Even Kirk Hammett uses Fender Strat bro
Bro really won’t like DOOM soundtracks
But have you taken it off any sweet jumps Napoleon?
“You need humbuckers for metal”
No you don’t. Single coils are better for leads anyway. Plenty of metal doesn’t rely on chords for their main riffs anyway
depends on the genre but your point still stands over what i have to say
Early gojira would make him shit himself
The humbuckers sound less distortiony tbh.
Omg I was so into CKY about 20 years ago!
Dave Murray of Iron Maiden has used a Strat for decades; mostly with SSS configuration, but a few with HSS. In fact, he used Paul Kossoff's '57 Strat from Maiden's beginnings until the early 90's.
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Has this kid ever actually listened to any metal? Did he listed to Walk before playing it?
probably not. most of his channel is shit like Weezer. dude knows nothing about metal
It was good and i also have a strat and love to play metal. Both riffs sounded good but the first one was in the wrong strat position. I think it was 2 or 4. For metal i would recommend 1 and sometimes 3. The others give a more funky feel that does not match.
Are you allergic to distortion?
Yeah, metal heads are followers. They don't think independently. and in real life when you get ten guitarists together they all sound different... unless they're metalheads, then it's all uniforms and fucking rules. The ONLY two 'metal' bands I can stand are (Aside from Black Sabbath who were the first, and raw as hell) Motorhead and Pantera they're as much punk as they are metal. (Thrash CAME from hardcore) Stand your ground, and make your own music. Strats rule!
Humbucker is more punchy,
Whats the name of Second song ?
That cky song quite bitter beings brings back so much memories.😢 i feel old now
Walk sounds weird on a strat
Tony Iommi famously played an SG with p90’s and practically created the blueprint for heavy music. Single coils are great!
Your pickups dont matter that much if you crank up the gain, so you should probably do that.
Jimi Hendrix is the perfect example of anything can be metal. It may have been psychedelic but his performance of wild thing at Monterey just feels heavy.
Ohh he certainly had heavy songs, no doubt.
Landmvrks uses strats ;)
Yeah still a no for strat 🤣
drop that tuning right now
Iron Maiden Use Strats
Ur song choices were elite
never play pantera again
Where are the distortion?
Where’s the distortion
The hum must be unreal
Sounds awful tbh
Sounds horrible
I mean... Yeah, you can hear the strat not doing it in the video lol
i accept you!!!
Is this a joke
Iron Maiden uses singles strats all the time, and I don't think anyone would deny they're metal.
Not only there is not enough distortion, but also not enough sustain.
I think you dont need any of those pedals to get that metal tone YOU want. For the reason that youll never play metal in front of an audience or any uploads. Deep inside if feel you do.
I prefer single coil pickups too, and they sound good for metal to me.
Strats sound awesome when you actually use an overdrive pedal that doesn’t sound crunchy lol and if you are worried about humming all you gotta do is use a noise gate
Bro def learned the 96 quite bitter beings riff because of Polyphia playing it live (me too)
I'm co😊nvinced when this guy uses index and pinky as his power chords 😂😂😂
This guy is a great guitar player but sometimes he just has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about
Yngwie Malmsteen always used a single coil, humbuckers are optional
"Heavy...metal"
"Distortion..."
Where?
“Stacked up on distortion”
Bro, my acoustic-nylon has more distortion
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nope, Nope,...and NO! Strats sound like rubberbands being strummed.... smooth distortion is where it's at... get a PRS custom 24-8 SE
Most classic heavy metal works great with single coils
Obviously, whoever said Strats aren’t Metal enough don’t know that Glenn Tipton, Yngwie Malmsteen, Ritchie Blackmore, K K Downing, Dave Murray and many others use or have used Strats!
I wouldn't say modding the guitar really counts, use a standard strat and re do this. And please for the love of God. USE. DISTORTION. PLEASE