No captain cried that much, and everytime they did, and it was rare, it was totally justified. Michael is a crybaby and unfit to be a captain, just like Tilly is unfit to be a Star Trek officer, not even in communications, this show is pathetic, glad I stopped early...not enough early tho (geez those three episodes sucked so much😁)
@@wolfbane7497 They ruined The Borg, The Changlings, The Klingons, The Trill, The Breen, The Vulcans, I'm sure there are more but those are the most iconic they have changed beyond recognition, I think.
Let me see if I can get this straight. She was raised by a Vulcan. She lived on Vulcan, and she accepted the Vulcan culture. She can do the Vulcan nerve pinch. Vulcans have emotions, but they suppress their emotions. I guess she didn't get that part of the memo: suppress emotions.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
another thing....when Spock had an emotional outbreak ("Amok Time" & "All our Yesterdays"), he was ashamed. This female dog has no shame. I hope you have a nice day.
I've been saying the same thing. Poorly written character delivered poorly by a poor actress. With the non stop crying, any emotional moment has lost all meaning. Meanwhile, Kirk doesn't cry, but chokes up a bit at Spocks funeral which had a way more emotional impact.
answered your own dilema didn't you. VULCANS control their emotions. she is NOT vulcan hense her flaws. Spock himself had an issue with controling his emotions. its almost like shes his sister or something
The amount of crying in Discovery is ridiculous. Shills have written reviews about how they want Star Trek to be more emotional like Discovery is. And it certainly the case that characters should cry. But they shouldn't do it in every episode and every suggestion of danger.
There are some who would suggest that all this crying is a female thing, but there are examples of strong, stable female officers like Janeway who, while reacting emotionally at times, aren't prone to so much blubbering. Burnham is clearly emotionally unstable and as such would have impaired judgement and would be less capable of sound command decisions. I would think that this would disqualify her from being in any kind of command position, but the writers have no concept of command structure and the need for clear-eyed consistency in the process of making decisions while under duress.
Even a military ship couldn't operate like this in real life. The other captains at least gave some semblance of accuracy in some various degrees, but Burnham is way off.
I see a lot of emotion on TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, all of them, they just use them in the right amount in the right moments, like, "Picard hugging the Ressican flute", "Kiras whole range of emotions at the murder of Amin Maritza", "Janeway staring out the windows in her quarters thinking about her decision that stranded them", "Archer when Earth is destroyed".... There are loads more, and also crying, at the right moments. Just look at Mark Lenards final scene, playing Sarek loosing control of his emotions, one of the most superb farewell scenes I've seen ever.
@@randomelement5510 It could still be a female thing, if we look at it from the point of view of the public, not the characters. What do casual female audience like? Romance, emotions, interpersonal drama, family/royal court/crew intrigues, stuff like that. Nowadays most of media are targeted towards a casual female audience. And maybe it's better this way, since Star trek fans sure aren't watching.
In TNG/DS9 etc the emotional moments were EARNED with great writing and stellar acting. In Nu Trek, the actors burst into tears every other minute and we're supposed to give a shit. Kurtzman Trek is AWFUL. It's cheap, it's lazy, and it's not real Trek.
There's nothing inherently wrong with crying...the problem is discovery does it all the damn time and its over the smallest of things. The honest worst was S3 when they were going to go on an away mission, like they were all afraid to leave the ship.
Exactly, the weight and guilt of being assimilated into a machine race and possibly ending his Starfleet career coupled with the lifetime struggles with his brother were a pretty good excuse. He wasn't just having a coe-tecks moment in the middle of a mission like Burnham.
He also cried when he was temporary holding all of Sarek's emotions for a peace treaty, but we can't blame Picard for hundreds of years of pent up emotions from an old af Vulcan.
@@Paulafan5 Kirk lost Spock and gulped back one sob at his funeral. He lost his son and missed the chair sitting down. His reaction to his imminent demise was mild surprise. Outside of maybe some instance of mind control, I cannot think of one time Kirk cried. Kirk was made of sterner stuff than most captain's. Maybe except Janeway. Janeway was stone-cold, like a Kirk movie-era Klingon...just without the warm fuzzy side.
His best friend dies or his son dies, he's emotional (which makes sense). Picard cried in front of his brother, not on the bridge of the Enterprise in front of his subordinates.
All the more pathetic given that in the first season, her Vulcan upbringing was emphasized and so her demeanor and affectations were essentially Vulcan. Yet in subsequent seasons she became emotionally unstable
They could almost make this work if it were highlighted that human beings raised by Vulcans are at risk of becoming emotionally unstable because they are structurally incapable and lack the Vulcan physiology that makes Vulcans capable of containing their emotions in ways that humans can't -- that a human held to Vulcan standards, especially as a child, would suffer a breakdown at some point, which would explain why Burnham is so weepy, Yet all her crying is not acknowledged as a weakness but rather an asset -- as if being so emotionally vulnerable wouldn't interfere with her duties as a Star Fleet officer.
@@randomelement5510 I don't think it's the entirely physiology as much as the upbringing. My theory (which I read somewhere years ago) is that the Romulans are the oriignal 'Vulcans', whereas the Vulcans now are the Augments, who won. Vulcan got nuked to sh*t (hence why it's 'desert with everything that can kill you), and the Romulans however lost and hauled ass to a new home, left the "Vulcans" to what they thought was their doom. The Vulcans adapted and thrived, killed and conquered until it became precarious and Surak was all, "dudes, this is stupid". Hence why Vulcans are anal-retentive and don't know what to make of humans. Because humans A) kicked the augments off earth, and didn't (entirely) nuke up their homeworld. And they're capable of Vulcantastic rage and fury...but also are able to genuflect and ponder. Vulcans approach to 'emotional trauma' seems to be "Bury it deep". Which isn't an approach that works long-term for humans. We tend to start self-medicating at that point.
There hasn't been a single moment where I've wanted to cry along with any of the Discovery characters. I just don't feel that much of a connection with them. Compare that with Tasha's funeral on TNG, or The Visitor in DS9 which get me right in the feels every time!
I HATE the character, the acting especially the whispering, and to a point the actress, how she acted early on in the show insulting and mocking people base on lies who simply have different political views and she knows NOTHING about Trek yet spouts lies about what she thinks it is about.
Sisko radiated true masculine energy, he was loyal, honorable, not afraid to make the hard decisions. He was the embodiment of what it meant to lead and is a captain I will stand for, not Michael...
Remember, it had only been a few years since Avery Brooks had played Hawk on Spenser: For hire. When he shaved his head and grew that goatee back I almost expected him to start packing a silver .357 magnum.
The actress has only two possible emotions: smug cocky smirks and raised eyebrow tears. The problem is the only emotion that seems at all genuine is when she's acting cocky and obnoxious. She is such a bad actress and they made her the lead of a 4 season show that cost hundreds of billions of dollars. It's also telling that their own self-insert Mary Sue cries at the drop of a hat. These writers wouldn't know Horatio Hornblower/Star Trek stoicism if one of their wispy liberal arts professors drew it for them in crayon.
Being raised Vulcan is clearly traumatizing to her emotional development. Starfleet isn't quite the military, but there should be a lot more professionalism. Discovery seems more like a group of friends taking a starship out for an adventure, not a well trained, quasi-military unit.
1:05 Completely unrelated comment. WTF are those inward-facing helmet lights for? Obviously, they're so the audience can better see the actor, but can you imagine trying to work in any environment, let alone the usual dimness of space, with lights shining on your face constantly?
I'm not going to say that captains don't have feelings, but when you're on duty, you have a job to do. You can't just stop and have a cry. Hell, if you did that at your regular job, you'd be fired. When Tasha Yar cried on the bridge, she essentially was on death row with the possibility of being killed at any time by a god-like being. That, and there wasn't any thing else she could have done since the bridge controls were all off line. With Micheal, it was nothing like that. She cried after the fact making everything about her. Micheal wasn't able to save someone, so it's all about Micheal's personal suffering. It's so self-centered and selfish. It's actually insulting.
One of my top ten scenes from all of Star Trek is in "Balance of Terror". The Enterprise is silent-running, when Spock blunders by accidentally making a noise. Spock looks shocked and Stiles is furious. However, at that most crucial moment, with the life of everyone on board at risk, Kirk says, "It's all right. It's all right. Power on. Reverse course. He'll try to slip under us. Phasers, fire." Kirk really keeps his head while other crew members are panicking. That was the moment, back in 1966, when I became a trekkie.
Tng, Picard cries while feeling sarak's emotions, and again after fighting with his brother in the mud and admitting what the borg did to him. ds9, Benny cries when his story isn't published and he's fired. Those were real hard hitting moments, moments that as a grown man I get choked up watching. Disco, has the crying and drama akin to "as the world turns" and other cheesy dramas that were meant for people with nothing else to do but watch tv
What's sad is this could have worked. Have Michael constantly present a strong aire of stotic professionalism but at her core is an emotional vulcano. Sadly she breaks down nearly once an episode so she comes off as weak.
DS9 tears felt like their professionalism and emotional control had reached their breaking point. Discovery’s breaking point is slightly less resistance than a soggy mini pretzel stick.
@@Zhortac jem'hedar would just pause in confusion, vorta would offer them a hankey and a hug, founders would just shake their head in disgust and walk away
The writers had to have 10 or more moments of crying as fillers per episode. If anyone here ever served they would see none of the officers or higher NCO show any emotion. It would be a sign of weakness!
women have been serving on US Navy vessels since 1994, even combat vessels, and I would hazard a guess that there would be little to no crying on duty by these fine navy personnel. They take their jobs seriously and professionally conduct themselves, and it is expected that they do so. The writers only have to look at this to see how to write believable characters. Nu-Trek is trash and unwatchable.
Not me, major Grin is to squeeze out a little bit of compressed slapstick of this adhoc incoherent inconsistent silly mess that somehow got multiple seasons? It also has zero rewatch value even if you somehow managed to watch it through the first time. Writers don't know what serious SF means and got their job through other means.
Reminds me of that famous scene from the Tom Hanks movie A League of Their Own, only given a Star Trek spin. Are you crying? Are you crying? There's no crying in Starfleet.
Romulans: Don't look at us...if we raised her she'd have an IQ above that of an Earth garden salad...meanwhile, she makes the Paklid sound like good conversation partners...
She does cry an awful lot. But I'm less annoyed about her crying than the reasons she cries. Almost every time it's not because of a situation she's emotionally invested in, but as a signal to the audience: "look, it's a truly end-times level crisis", "look, this is hugely cosmically significant", "look, this is a drama moment of Shakespearean significance". It's just so damn forced.
Years of living on Vulcan where she learned to control human emotions and assimilated into Vulcan culture thrown away in a couple of years on Discovery. Let's not forget she is even supposedly Spock's sister.
100%. This show is way too emotional. So emotional that it feels contrived and insincere. I do like some characters and stories. The effects are also well done. It just lacks the gravity of other Trek shows where everyone isn't always getting along.
Imma link this next time one person over on the Trekcore comments boards claims she doesn't cry ( and believes she's only cried once, lol!! ). Her whispering annoys me too.
ROTFLMAO!! "Let's cry!" Perfection, Major Grin!! They should replace the "The more you know" intro with this 6 sec. intro. Much more appropriate! I think I'm going to say this catch phrase every time I sit down to watch a Nu Trek episode.
Because Star Trek culture incorporating basic emotional intelligence, trauma processing skills, and transcending the "very effective" stoic ideal held by British culture isn't healthy, helpful, or compassionate at all to anyone ever lol.
One would think that crying for so many seasons at least she would get betting at it but even when she cries it's still fake as hell. Her acting is worse than a Klingon physician.
So all matter that falls inside of a black hole is lost to this universe, it's a shame we can't create a short duration pinpoint singularity and cast this ridiculous show into it.
What I love about nuTrek is how the captains all have a warp command. Like most of all the other captains say “engage”, like a singular command that all their officers can listen out for and respond to in an emergency when the bridge is blowing rocks at them. But that’s dumb - the nuTrek captains have their own commands that could be confused with other things and get the crew killed which makes them smarter and better
Everyone claps, and Captain Burnham feels like she could cry out a second self of tears, just so that she could have someone to hug. She feels accepted, though.
I was just thinking about how incredibly fake her weaves are looking. Soon her '''hair''' will be down past her ankles and crocheted into a quilt. That will also cry.
@@MichaelPohoreski @PercNP It wasn't the writers doing, it was Bryan Fuller, the original showrunner. In his show, Dead Like Me, the main character Georgia went by George. In Pushing Up Daisies the main female characters name is Charlotte but goes by Chuck. In Wonderfalls the main female leads name is Jaye. He's been doing that forever and honestly it's stupid.
If We Reverse The Flow Of Time Star Trek Discovery Would Make Total Sense: ruclips.net/video/puvCvcpZJh8/видео.html
There is a reason they had to pass a psychology test in real trek
The Sisko said it best.
No captain cried that much, and everytime they did, and it was rare, it was totally justified.
Michael is a crybaby and unfit to be a captain, just like Tilly is unfit to be a Star Trek officer, not even in communications, this show is pathetic, glad I stopped early...not enough early tho (geez those three episodes sucked so much😁)
This series killed Star Trek for me. I stopped watching this ultra-woke garbage a long time ago.
Vulcan trained and stàr fleet officer…
It makes sense they've ruined Vulcans
@@wolfbane7497 They ruined The Borg, The Changlings, The Klingons, The Trill, The Breen, The Vulcans, I'm sure there are more but those are the most iconic they have changed beyond recognition, I think.
@@temparalflux914 andorans they destroyed them
Let me see if I can get this straight. She was raised by a Vulcan. She lived on Vulcan, and she accepted the Vulcan culture. She can do the Vulcan nerve pinch. Vulcans have emotions, but they suppress their emotions. I guess she didn't get that part of the memo: suppress emotions.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And she was trained to rival the best vulcans....unless they meant the best of the bottom of the barrel
another thing....when Spock had an emotional outbreak ("Amok Time" & "All our Yesterdays"), he was ashamed. This female dog has no shame. I hope you have a nice day.
I've been saying the same thing. Poorly written character delivered poorly by a poor actress. With the non stop crying, any emotional moment has lost all meaning. Meanwhile, Kirk doesn't cry, but chokes up a bit at Spocks funeral which had a way more emotional impact.
@@ZhortacThe product of DEI at the Vulcan Academy.
answered your own dilema didn't you. VULCANS control their emotions. she is NOT vulcan hense her flaws. Spock himself had an issue with controling his emotions. its almost like shes his sister or something
The amount of crying in Discovery is ridiculous. Shills have written reviews about how they want Star Trek to be more emotional like Discovery is. And it certainly the case that characters should cry. But they shouldn't do it in every episode and every suggestion of danger.
There are some who would suggest that all this crying is a female thing, but there are examples of strong, stable female officers like Janeway who, while reacting emotionally at times, aren't prone to so much blubbering.
Burnham is clearly emotionally unstable and as such would have impaired judgement and would be less capable of sound command decisions. I would think that this would disqualify her from being in any kind of command position, but the writers have no concept of command structure and the need for clear-eyed consistency in the process of making decisions while under duress.
Even a military ship couldn't operate like this in real life. The other captains at least gave some semblance of accuracy in some various degrees, but Burnham is way off.
I see a lot of emotion on TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, all of them, they just use them in the right amount in the right moments, like, "Picard hugging the Ressican flute", "Kiras whole range of emotions at the murder of Amin Maritza", "Janeway staring out the windows in her quarters thinking about her decision that stranded them", "Archer when Earth is destroyed".... There are loads more, and also crying, at the right moments. Just look at Mark Lenards final scene, playing Sarek loosing control of his emotions, one of the most superb farewell scenes I've seen ever.
cry = emotions. Emotions = depth
@@randomelement5510 It could still be a female thing, if we look at it from the point of view of the public, not the characters.
What do casual female audience like? Romance, emotions, interpersonal drama, family/royal court/crew intrigues, stuff like that.
Nowadays most of media are targeted towards a casual female audience. And maybe it's better this way, since Star trek fans sure aren't watching.
Janeway never cried.
She makes other people cry.
Pretty sure that's not true. She didn't break down like Burnham...she'd shed a tear and then carry on.
She cried every night alone in bed, thinking of Chakotay and Seven.
Nah, we all know the only times Janeway cried, we're in her quarters, when Nelix informed her they ran out of coffee
I think Janeway balanced duty and emotion perfectly.
Raised by Vulcans and Burnham has been reduced to a sobbing wetmop character.
Cry Trek Discovery.
The Borg assimilates DISCO: the entire collective starts crying
I think you're on to something. 🙂
They already did that in Picard season 1. The cube broke because of sadness.
@@blammers 😂
@@blammers I thought that was season 2?
@@dustinprewitt no, season 2 was a different kind of train wreck
In TNG/DS9 etc the emotional moments were EARNED with great writing and stellar acting. In Nu Trek, the actors burst into tears every other minute and we're supposed to give a shit. Kurtzman Trek is AWFUL. It's cheap, it's lazy, and it's not real Trek.
💯% this
Lower Decks, SNW and Prodigy top everything that was Discovery or Picard
She's only crying cause the Breens won't have their way with her.
@@thystaff742 Oof, that's cold
If I remember right, Sisko only cried when his wife died, and when he almost lost Jake. But thats family
He also cried as Benny. But yes, he only cried a few times, even though ds9 has many times more episodes than disco does
He also cried when his story got turned down by that Sci-fi magazine, but I think that was an alternate reality so I'm not sure if that counts
There's nothing inherently wrong with crying...the problem is discovery does it all the damn time and its over the smallest of things. The honest worst was S3 when they were going to go on an away mission, like they were all afraid to leave the ship.
Picard cried after the fight with his brother and when that side of the family burned to death but I'll give him a pass
Exactly, the weight and guilt of being assimilated into a machine race and possibly ending his Starfleet career coupled with the lifetime struggles with his brother were a pretty good excuse.
He wasn't just having a coe-tecks moment in the middle of a mission like Burnham.
He also cried when he was temporary holding all of Sarek's emotions for a peace treaty, but we can't blame Picard for hundreds of years of pent up emotions from an old af Vulcan.
Picard never cried in front of the bridge crew (well, Troi but she doesn't count). He held off until he was in private.
@@Paulafan5 Kirk lost Spock and gulped back one sob at his funeral. He lost his son and missed the chair sitting down. His reaction to his imminent demise was mild surprise.
Outside of maybe some instance of mind control, I cannot think of one time Kirk cried.
Kirk was made of sterner stuff than most captain's.
Maybe except Janeway. Janeway was stone-cold, like a Kirk movie-era Klingon...just without the warm fuzzy side.
He is the Sisko.
Kirk barely broke when he was eulogizing his best friend. And he had every right to and we’d have understood. But the man just oozes composure.
His best friend dies or his son dies, he's emotional (which makes sense). Picard cried in front of his brother, not on the bridge of the Enterprise in front of his subordinates.
Sisko makes michael burnham look like an idiot
We used to have ds9 now we have stupid trek
Don't need sicko to make anyone in NuTrek look like an idiot, they do it all by themselves
All the more pathetic given that in the first season, her Vulcan upbringing was emphasized and so her demeanor and affectations were essentially Vulcan.
Yet in subsequent seasons she became emotionally unstable
Mind you, even in season 1-2 she could go into either cold or hot fury.
They could almost make this work if it were highlighted that human beings raised by Vulcans are at risk of becoming emotionally unstable because they are structurally incapable and lack the Vulcan physiology that makes Vulcans capable of containing their emotions in ways that humans can't -- that a human held to Vulcan standards, especially as a child, would suffer a breakdown at some point, which would explain why Burnham is so weepy,
Yet all her crying is not acknowledged as a weakness but rather an asset -- as if being so emotionally vulnerable wouldn't interfere with her duties as a Star Fleet officer.
@@randomelement5510
I don't think it's the entirely physiology as much as the upbringing.
My theory (which I read somewhere years ago) is that the Romulans are the oriignal 'Vulcans', whereas the Vulcans now are the Augments, who won.
Vulcan got nuked to sh*t (hence why it's 'desert with everything that can kill you), and the Romulans however lost and hauled ass to a new home, left the "Vulcans" to what they thought was their doom.
The Vulcans adapted and thrived, killed and conquered until it became precarious and Surak was all, "dudes, this is stupid".
Hence why Vulcans are anal-retentive and don't know what to make of humans. Because humans A) kicked the augments off earth, and didn't (entirely) nuke up their homeworld. And they're capable of Vulcantastic rage and fury...but also are able to genuflect and ponder.
Vulcans approach to 'emotional trauma' seems to be "Bury it deep". Which isn't an approach that works long-term for humans. We tend to start self-medicating at that point.
There hasn't been a single moment where I've wanted to cry along with any of the Discovery characters. I just don't feel that much of a connection with them. Compare that with Tasha's funeral on TNG, or The Visitor in DS9 which get me right in the feels every time!
"Of all the souls in the universe, his was the most.... _human_ "
This may of been one of your best ones yet.
Well done sir. 😃👍
Even the Ferengi is more likeable than Michael Burnham
I HATE the character, the acting especially the whispering, and to a point the actress, how she acted early on in the show insulting and mocking people base on lies who simply have different political views and she knows NOTHING about Trek yet spouts lies about what she thinks it is about.
💯
The CONSTANT whispering is annoying as fuck. I can’t stand ASMR.
Sisko would quit the fleet, and go back to New Orleans.
Emotionally unstable officer is one thing but an emotionally unstable commanding officer who cries on a drop of a hat? Get me off that ship !
In the second or third episode she leads an armed mutiny. She'd never set foot on a Starfleet vessel again, much less command one!
for a human raised by vulcans.. she sure forgot all about that emotional control
Sisko radiated true masculine energy, he was loyal, honorable, not afraid to make the hard decisions. He was the embodiment of what it meant to lead and is a captain I will stand for, not Michael...
Remember, it had only been a few years since Avery Brooks had played Hawk on Spenser: For hire. When he shaved his head and grew that goatee back I almost expected him to start packing a silver .357 magnum.
The ship is going to explode, perfect time to talk about our feelings.
Her philosophy: Always listen to your feelings, and never to your commanding officer
HAH...what a great end hahha.
So true. Look at "The Butcher"Janeway.She didn't even cry at here own wake. That's damn discipline. And she is a full of feeling humon.
Siskos head is one be sweat gland
"There's no CRYING in STARFLEET!" - Captain Jimmy Dugan of the USS Rockford
The actress has only two possible emotions: smug cocky smirks and raised eyebrow tears. The problem is the only emotion that seems at all genuine is when she's acting cocky and obnoxious.
She is such a bad actress and they made her the lead of a 4 season show that cost hundreds of billions of dollars.
It's also telling that their own self-insert Mary Sue cries at the drop of a hat.
These writers wouldn't know Horatio Hornblower/Star Trek stoicism if one of their wispy liberal arts professors drew it for them in crayon.
Michael Snivelin.
Being raised Vulcan is clearly traumatizing to her emotional development. Starfleet isn't quite the military, but there should be a lot more professionalism. Discovery seems more like a group of friends taking a starship out for an adventure, not a well trained, quasi-military unit.
Captain?? This person wouldn't even be fit to drive a garbage truck.
The USS Discovery shouldn't be hauling garbage, it should be hauled away as garbage.
1:05 Completely unrelated comment. WTF are those inward-facing helmet lights for? Obviously, they're so the audience can better see the actor, but can you imagine trying to work in any environment, let alone the usual dimness of space, with lights shining on your face constantly?
It's a symptom of the Abrams/Kurzman style before substance disease.
She has to be the worst star trek captain actor, literally every word she says in unbearable and her facial expressions are so forced and fake.
I'm not going to say that captains don't have feelings, but when you're on duty, you have a job to do. You can't just stop and have a cry. Hell, if you did that at your regular job, you'd be fired. When Tasha Yar cried on the bridge, she essentially was on death row with the possibility of being killed at any time by a god-like being. That, and there wasn't any thing else she could have done since the bridge controls were all off line. With Micheal, it was nothing like that. She cried after the fact making everything about her. Micheal wasn't able to save someone, so it's all about Micheal's personal suffering. It's so self-centered and selfish. It's actually insulting.
One of my top ten scenes from all of Star Trek is in "Balance of Terror". The Enterprise is silent-running, when Spock blunders by accidentally making a noise. Spock looks shocked and Stiles is furious. However, at that most crucial moment, with the life of everyone on board at risk, Kirk says, "It's all right. It's all right. Power on. Reverse course. He'll try to slip under us. Phasers, fire." Kirk really keeps his head while other crew members are panicking. That was the moment, back in 1966, when I became a trekkie.
Tng, Picard cries while feeling sarak's emotions, and again after fighting with his brother in the mud and admitting what the borg did to him. ds9, Benny cries when his story isn't published and he's fired. Those were real hard hitting moments, moments that as a grown man I get choked up watching. Disco, has the crying and drama akin to "as the world turns" and other cheesy dramas that were meant for people with nothing else to do but watch tv
cry long and prosper 🖖
Let's whisper!
What's sad is this could have worked. Have Michael constantly present a strong aire of stotic professionalism but at her core is an emotional vulcano. Sadly she breaks down nearly once an episode so she comes off as weak.
IT'S A FAAAAAKE!
Is this over yet?
soon...until the next Nu-Trek show comes along and further beats Gene Roddenberry's dream into space dust.
in a future where humans can modify their bodies , burn-ham , modified her tear ducts.
Cue Troi's "If you can't make it here, you might think about a transport ship. There's a lot less pressure there."
That would be the perfect ending 😂
thats actually one of the very rare good Troi moments
More like Cry Trek Discovery and Woke Trek Discovery
DS9 tears felt like their professionalism and emotional control had reached their breaking point.
Discovery’s breaking point is slightly less resistance than a soggy mini pretzel stick.
DISCO encounters a dominion vessel- too busy crying to raise deflector shields or load torpedo bays
The Jem'hedar would be immensely disappointed
@@Zhortac jem'hedar would just pause in confusion, vorta would offer them a hankey and a hug, founders would just shake their head in disgust and walk away
Just proves she’s not captain material.
Michael just has a rare tear gland issue
The writers had to have 10 or more moments of crying as fillers per episode.
If anyone here ever served they would see none of the officers or higher NCO show any emotion. It would be a sign of weakness!
Lmao thats the best comment and video I've seen about this shit show
women have been serving on US Navy vessels since 1994, even combat vessels, and I would hazard a guess that there would be little to no crying on duty by these fine navy personnel.
They take their jobs seriously and professionally conduct themselves, and it is expected that they do so.
The writers only have to look at this to see how to write believable characters.
Nu-Trek is trash and unwatchable.
Crychael Burnham is an embarrassment.
I'd cry also if I was casted as the main character on this awful show.
too much emotions... not good for starfleet captain
i'm gonna miss the memes when this show ends
7 season of Voyager and not once was there a scene of Janeway crying.
Cry Trek: The Final Tears
saru is the one who carried the whole serries... should have been captain saru
that's one of the reasons season 3 was probably the best season (least worse one) . Saru was the captain
she is always too cocky, like she knows everything is going to turn out ok every single time
She read the script 🤷🏻♂️
IT'S A F A A A K E.
u guys watch this crap? 🤔
Not me, major Grin is to squeeze out a little bit of compressed slapstick of this adhoc incoherent inconsistent silly mess that somehow got multiple seasons? It also has zero rewatch value even if you somehow managed to watch it through the first time. Writers don't know what serious SF means and got their job through other means.
Nah, we don’t watch fan fiction. We are here for the memes.
Lets see the extended version, with every insance of her crying. Oh lord. That might get tiresome in itself.
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@@MajorGrin Ahh, it's awful!
im gonna miss this discovery roasting
Well, I'm sure Star Fleet Academy or whatever the hell it's called will provide ample opportunities.
I always thought she was over emotional in this, ESPECIALLY for someone raised with Spock, on Vulcan.
Okay. This is logical XD. I feel like Sisko and Picard would say this. Especially while on the bridge. In private? That's another thing.
Michael wouldn't survive one day on the Enterprise under Kirk or on DS9 under Sisko.
followed by "let's whisper"
This video is amazing, this is the first I have laughed so much at something about crying!
Reminds me of that famous scene from the Tom Hanks movie A League of Their Own, only given a Star Trek spin.
Are you crying? Are you crying? There's no crying in Starfleet.
I feel like all the TNG/DS9 references they keep dropping are partially carrying the show this season if I’m being honest
terrible show
Vulcan upbringing , Yeah, sure!
Romulans: Don't look at us...if we raised her she'd have an IQ above that of an Earth garden salad...meanwhile, she makes the Paklid sound like good conversation partners...
She does cry an awful lot. But I'm less annoyed about her crying than the reasons she cries. Almost every time it's not because of a situation she's emotionally invested in, but as a signal to the audience: "look, it's a truly end-times level crisis", "look, this is hugely cosmically significant", "look, this is a drama moment of Shakespearean significance". It's just so damn forced.
Years of living on Vulcan where she learned to control human emotions and assimilated into Vulcan culture thrown away in a couple of years on Discovery. Let's not forget she is even supposedly Spock's sister.
If this crying keeps up they'll need to switch from a starship to a boat!
100%. This show is way too emotional. So emotional that it feels contrived and insincere. I do like some characters and stories. The effects are also well done. It just lacks the gravity of other Trek shows where everyone isn't always getting along.
OH NO: Human emotions. Can't have that on Star Trek.
Imma link this next time one person over on the Trekcore comments boards claims she doesn't cry ( and believes she's only cried once, lol!! ). Her whispering annoys me too.
ROTFLMAO!! "Let's cry!" Perfection, Major Grin!! They should replace the "The more you know" intro with this 6 sec. intro. Much more appropriate! I think I'm going to say this catch phrase every time I sit down to watch a Nu Trek episode.
I think this is what Spock was referring to in TOS when he talked about: “preferring to wallow in a pool of emotion”
agreed way too much crying wayyy too much in this series..
I'm pretty sure the actress demanded those scenes, because she was tired of her original character. Kurtzmann once again
Because Star Trek culture incorporating basic emotional intelligence, trauma processing skills, and transcending the "very effective" stoic ideal held by British culture isn't healthy, helpful, or compassionate at all to anyone ever lol.
One would think that crying for so many seasons at least she would get betting at it but even when she cries it's still fake as hell. Her acting is worse than a Klingon physician.
First time I've ever stopped watching a season of trek, makes me feel sick
So all matter that falls inside of a black hole is lost to this universe, it's a shame we can't create a short duration pinpoint singularity and cast this ridiculous show into it.
'When one is trapped inside a penalty box, tears are permitted on the bridge' something like.
What I love about nuTrek is how the captains all have a warp command. Like most of all the other captains say “engage”, like a singular command that all their officers can listen out for and respond to in an emergency when the bridge is blowing rocks at them. But that’s dumb - the nuTrek captains have their own commands that could be confused with other things and get the crew killed which makes them smarter and better
It is STD there a lot to cry about especially if you tried to watch passed the 3rd season
Funny, because she didn't cry at all in the first two eps of season 5.
It's not star trek. Once you believe that it just makes it a shit sifi show.
The Audience is crying for five Seasons now.
Everyone claps, and Captain Burnham feels like she could cry out a second self of tears, just so that she could have someone to hug. She feels accepted, though.
Sisko getting vexed scares the shit out of me. No wonder Worf was scared of him.
Can't wait for your Discovery swearing video!!
So many weaves, so little time.
I was just thinking about how incredibly fake her weaves are looking. Soon her '''hair''' will be down past her ankles and crocheted into a quilt. That will also cry.
Wait. Is that broad's name "Michael?"
Yup.
*Writers:* _Hijacking a male name is SO edgy!_
*Everyone:* _That’s stupid._
@@MichaelPohoreski Exactly. Just name her Michaela.
@@MichaelPohoreski @PercNP It wasn't the writers doing, it was Bryan Fuller, the original showrunner. In his show, Dead Like Me, the main character Georgia went by George. In Pushing Up Daisies the main female characters name is Charlotte but goes by Chuck. In Wonderfalls the main female leads name is Jaye. He's been doing that forever and honestly it's stupid.
@@DatDudeVinceThanks for the info!
Sisko is the greatest guy in the universe