well 4 bonds and 2 sets of lone pairs means it's one of the exceptions. but yes it does have different terminal atoms so it is asymmetrical. i think it was a mistake in the powerpoint (or whatever he uses), he also said that it was asymmetrical
Thank you for doing the H2O one, I don't really understand why AX2E2 isn't symmetrical (I get the bent thing, but I still don't understand why that's not symmetrical - if you make a vertical cut, isn't that symmetrical?) So having a "rule" to follow helps a lot!!
You are right that there is a plane of symmetry down the middle of AX2E2, this sort of symmetry isn't important here...but it does show why this discussion is always so confusing. Really we want to know if the vectors representing the polarity of each bond add to zero or not....of course to do this rigorously requires doing vector addition which is never really done in a general chemistry setting. Which really does make the rules the best way to go :) If you watch my third video in this series it talks about qualitatively thinking through the vector addition which might help you see why AX2E2 isn't symmetrical in the way thats important, but it is complicated!
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If you are working with organic molecules, could you count the molecules surrounding the atom as terminal atoms? for example for propanone, would it be asymmetrical because there are two CH3 molecules and one oxygen connected to the carbon, which are different terminal 'molecules'?
Hi Isabel, You can apply these same rules at every individual atom in a large molecule. If it has a single atom with different terminal atoms or lone pairs then the whole molecule will be asymmetrical. Typically there is some asymmetry in organic molecules. To decide if they are polar, you typically just need to see if it has a polar bond.
Hmmm this is kind of complicated. The way we write binary ionic compounds like (NaCl) would not have symmetry according to the rules we listed. And they are always ionic which is sort of like super polar. However, ionic compounds form crystal lattices which have various types of symmetry but not the symmetry discussed here. So I think what you said is right haha.
Hi Mikasa, This video is just thinking about the symmetry. But you are right that to think about if a molecule is polar you have to consider bother symmetry and bond polarity. For the example you gave, you'd have a non-polar molecule because polar molecules must have BOTH a polar bond and asymmetry. Here is a video which covers that topic in more depth: ruclips.net/video/28PrVC5TIBA/видео.html
@@RealChemistryVideos my chemistry teacher taught this flow chart where if there was no polar bonds we had to check symmetry. Then if it was not symmetrical, it was polar
This is one that can be tricky! Students often draw it H-O-H with a lone pair on top and bottom. This make its look linear and quite symmetrical. But actually it should be drawn in a bent fashion with both hydrogens pointing down. This makes it clear that the lone pairs (as suggested in the rules) break the symmetry.
BRO thank you so much man, I have no idea why people cannot make it as straightforward as this. Ridiculous, thank you.
I have been looking forever for an explanation that makes sense and you just cleared this up for me within the first minute thank you
thanks for explaining this properly, now I understand this.
thank you so much , I have been looking for way too long to find a good video that explains this :' )
THANK YOU, finally found a video that explains it better than any other including my teacher.
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Can someone help me to understand the last one XeF3H,is it symmetrical or asymmetrical?
it’s asymmetrical
7:00 it has a lone pair and has different atoms so it meets both options to be asymmetrical atom why you consider it as a symmetrical atom -_-
well 4 bonds and 2 sets of lone pairs means it's one of the exceptions. but yes it does have different terminal atoms so it is asymmetrical. i think it was a mistake in the powerpoint (or whatever he uses), he also said that it was asymmetrical
Good summary Carl! That is correct...I circled that wrong word. It is asymmetrical because of the differing terminal atoms.
You’re amazing 😻
Thank you for doing the H2O one, I don't really understand why AX2E2 isn't symmetrical (I get the bent thing, but I still don't understand why that's not symmetrical - if you make a vertical cut, isn't that symmetrical?) So having a "rule" to follow helps a lot!!
You are right that there is a plane of symmetry down the middle of AX2E2, this sort of symmetry isn't important here...but it does show why this discussion is always so confusing. Really we want to know if the vectors representing the polarity of each bond add to zero or not....of course to do this rigorously requires doing vector addition which is never really done in a general chemistry setting. Which really does make the rules the best way to go :)
If you watch my third video in this series it talks about qualitatively thinking through the vector addition which might help you see why AX2E2 isn't symmetrical in the way thats important, but it is complicated!
@@RealChemistryVideos Thank you, I am working my way through your videos alongside my course. (On every topic that comes up!) You are the only reason I understand any of it! Lol
1:57 Methane has no lone pairs or different terminal atoms, I wish you talked about it
That is correct. Because of this it is symmetrical
Thank you so much🥺🕊
Doesn't H2O have a bent shape instead of linear?
Yes it does!
But you said it is linear and that's why it is asymmetrical
If you are working with organic molecules, could you count the molecules surrounding the atom as terminal atoms? for example for propanone, would it be asymmetrical because there are two CH3 molecules and one oxygen connected to the carbon, which are different terminal 'molecules'?
Hi Isabel,
You can apply these same rules at every individual atom in a large molecule. If it has a single atom with different terminal atoms or lone pairs then the whole molecule will be asymmetrical. Typically there is some asymmetry in organic molecules. To decide if they are polar, you typically just need to see if it has a polar bond.
Thanks so much for this.
you circled the wrong answer for the last practice question
Doh! You are right, thanks for pointing this out.
ur so good taught what my teacher couldn't
in 20x time
this helps so much!
Is BH3 polar or no polar?
based on your video, ozone O3 would be asymmetrical and thereby polar, but ozone is really symmetrical and non-polar
Ozone is asymmetrical, but it lacks polar bonds so its non-polar.
Thank you bro
Are all asymmetrical molecules polar?
so ionic compounds can never be symmetrical?
Hmmm this is kind of complicated. The way we write binary ionic compounds like (NaCl) would not have symmetry according to the rules we listed. And they are always ionic which is sort of like super polar.
However, ionic compounds form crystal lattices which have various types of symmetry but not the symmetry discussed here. So I think what you said is right haha.
i have a question
Thank you sir but I’ve got a question
What if the molecule is asymmetrical but has non polar bonds ??
Hi Mikasa,
This video is just thinking about the symmetry. But you are right that to think about if a molecule is polar you have to consider bother symmetry and bond polarity. For the example you gave, you'd have a non-polar molecule because polar molecules must have BOTH a polar bond and asymmetry.
Here is a video which covers that topic in more depth: ruclips.net/video/28PrVC5TIBA/видео.html
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@@RealChemistryVideos my chemistry teacher taught this flow chart where if there was no polar bonds we had to check symmetry. Then if it was not symmetrical, it was polar
@@sonicshoes9299 Unfortunately that isn't correct. If a molecule has no polar bonds, it can't be a polar molecule.
Why don't we learn geometries first?! I hate it when they say to "just look at it".
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How is h2o asymmetrical lol
This is one that can be tricky! Students often draw it H-O-H with a lone pair on top and bottom. This make its look linear and quite symmetrical. But actually it should be drawn in a bent fashion with both hydrogens pointing down. This makes it clear that the lone pairs (as suggested in the rules) break the symmetry.