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    Jaguar X-Type 3.0 V6 AWD (2005)
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  • @jerrynocon5198
    @jerrynocon5198 3 года назад +14

    So it has three open diffs with occasionally working traction control 👌

  • @cedricmertens8542
    @cedricmertens8542 3 года назад +37

    There are 2 versions of the x-type: this model (2005 - 2009) which has an open center diff with computer controlled traction control (as an option) and the 2001 - 2004 models with viscous center diff. Those models had much better AWD. Clearly this model is a 2005 - 2009 model without the traction control option. I would love to see the 2001 - 2004 model too for comparison against this one.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +22

      This one has open center differential but it also has traction control. Maybe in April we will compare it to the version with visco.

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 3 года назад +2

      Come on.. all cars in that segment since like the late 90's have traction control as standard.

    • @cedricmertens8542
      @cedricmertens8542 3 года назад +6

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's great to hear! I would love to see the 2 compared against each other. Keep up the good work!

    • @Marshal2909
      @Marshal2909 3 года назад +3

      I had a visco version and I think it would have fared way better, it was basically constantly running 4wd to a quite large extend.

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 3 года назад +1

      @@Marshal2909 Depends on what year. The early viscos were terrible. Since it needs speed difference between the axles to create the friction and "connect".

  • @nicolamiriano9150
    @nicolamiriano9150 3 года назад +24

    Never seen a so bad system... Need a comparison to the "old" version with the viscous diff

  • @Alexdj44
    @Alexdj44 3 года назад +3

    Спасибо за очередной познавательный тест.
    И владельцу аатомобиля так же-спасибо!

  • @czarnykurczak
    @czarnykurczak 3 года назад +1

    Testy na wstecznym to coś świeżego 🙂

  • @scott8919
    @scott8919 3 года назад +23

    Imagine selling an AWD system that only works as long as a wheel doesn't spin.

    • @borjaevo
      @borjaevo 2 года назад +1

      Has not very good offroad capabilities, but it has handling benefits in road drive and this is a car. I think this is better than Haldex anyway if you drive your mainly in tarmac.

  • @nexslv
    @nexslv 3 года назад +15

    A 2wd could have worked better. Abysmal :D

  • @riccardotaccolinimoncosi7435
    @riccardotaccolinimoncosi7435 3 года назад +2

    It actually was a pretty good 4wd system

  • @jovandjukic5923
    @jovandjukic5923 3 года назад +8

    Can not belive with my eyes what i saw... Is this possible???

    • @krzysztoftkacz
      @krzysztoftkacz 3 года назад +2

      Yes. 3X open differentials and poor traction controll system. And: Ta Da! :D

  • @TheKeyess
    @TheKeyess 3 года назад

    Very interesting results! It seems like this system favours sending power to the rear, a bit unusual for a FWD based system. I would suspect that the traction control tuning on this leans heavily towards driving feel, rather than all out traction.

  • @0702Roman
    @0702Roman 3 года назад +4

    I have such a car in 2003 3.0l awd, her four-wheel drive works very well. make a test for the old version

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +2

      We'll do that probably in April.

    • @likita779
      @likita779 2 года назад +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers did you manage to find a viscous coupler version I cannot wait to see your test!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  2 года назад +1

      @@likita779 Unfortunately no... We did test the one which should have visco but during the test it appeared that it was replaced by open diff... ruclips.net/video/IHWSopGRvDc/видео.html

  • @gerlandkent6377
    @gerlandkent6377 Год назад +1

    [nice, looking jaguar]👍

  • @eujeniu8527
    @eujeniu8527 3 года назад +14

    New type of transmission: s-awd with s standing for stupid))

  • @bobrolfe1100
    @bobrolfe1100 3 года назад +1

    Please test a Lexus IS, GS, or RC with the AWD system. I am curious to see how that system performs. Those cars have a permanent AWD with an electronically controlled planetary center differential (locking by electronically controlled hydromechanical clutch). Torque split is approximately 30/70 front/rear (exact ratio is 31/69) in straight line driving. The transfer case control unit adjusts the locking force applied to the hydromechanical clutch. Depending on the locking force, the torque split can range from the normal ~31/69 up to 50/50. This means that with a zero friction coefficient at either axle (like on rollers), virtually 100% of the engine power should be available at the opposite axle. Therefore, this should be a highly effective system.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +1

      I would like to test these cars but it is hard to find them...

  • @gerlandkent6377
    @gerlandkent6377 Год назад

    [thank, you for you're video]👍

  • @steve-wu7jp
    @steve-wu7jp 3 года назад

    nice video! i wish you would also expand to off road test as well :)

  • @na1677
    @na1677 2 года назад

    Interesting results.... Didnt expect it to have such difficulty shuffling power from simply front / back.
    Maybe an issue with center diff/coupling?
    Was this the manual or automatic transmission?
    Also did this model awd use Viscous-couplings or torsen difffs?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  2 года назад +1

      It is automatic transmission. No issues, this car has open center differential.

  • @d0stawca
    @d0stawca 3 года назад +4

    Myślałem kiedyś nad tym autem, dobrze, że się nie zdecydowałem 🤣
    To jest dramat.

  • @LilDiabloRob
    @LilDiabloRob 3 года назад +12

    I said it before and I’ll say it again, “ Car Companies need to bring back MECHANICAL LSDs.”

  • @brokenmotorwagen1328
    @brokenmotorwagen1328 3 года назад

    and yet, it has no problem in snow!

  • @Soh90
    @Soh90 3 года назад +2

    Customer: is this a good AWD system?
    Jaguar employee: Yes, best in the business....

  • @Softroader
    @Softroader 3 года назад +1

    What year?
    If I remember correctly, it's a permanent awd transmission with a viscous couplingcontrolled centre differential and 40/60 torque split until 2004. After, the viscous coupling was removed and only a traction control system remains...

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +1

      It's 2005, 40/60 open center differential.

    • @Softroader
      @Softroader 3 года назад +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers I thought so. Not very efficient, the traction control, I think

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +4

      @@Softroader Yes, works OK only in diagonal and lateral situations.

    • @Softroader
      @Softroader 3 года назад +3

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, but front-rear management is very important for all-wheel drive. It's a bit of a shame... Finally, this post 2004 Jaguar has taken +/- the transmission idea from the Ford Mondeo Mk I 2.0 TC4, one of the 1st (if not the 1st) car with a permanent all wheel drive system without any lsd and with only traction control system in 1994.

  • @eatsblades
    @eatsblades 9 месяцев назад

    I think the earlier ones were permenant. But that does seem to be working... its sending it where its needed

  • @pitersanok5179
    @pitersanok5179 3 года назад +1

    Przed testem napisałem, że w moim sąsiedztwie jest taki sam piękny X-type i podnosi on prestiż mojej dzielnicy 😉
    Po teście na rolkach stwierdzam, że to nadal jest piękny samochód, ale służący niestety do... obniżania prestiżu dzielnicy... 😱

  • @jaguarrroman
    @jaguarrroman 3 года назад

    X-type enjoys 3 types of traction control options: 1. Most prominent Dynamic Stability Control, which allows to drive the car on ice as if it were dry concrete. In this case ABS unit seriously differs from the other 2 options. 2. Traction Control still with a button near the gear stick/selector. 3. ABS only without a button near the gear stick/selector. It remains an open question, which one the subject car is equipped with (if any).

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +1

      It had traction control button near the gear selctor.

    • @jaguarrroman
      @jaguarrroman 3 года назад +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers The button can be either TC or DSC, which is not the same thing. Still you efforts to test an X-type will be appreciated by X-typers. Thanks.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад

      @@jaguarrroman I'll ask the owner 👍

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +1

      @@jaguarrroman It was DSC.

    • @jaguarrroman
      @jaguarrroman 3 года назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers It must use too clever algorithms to be understood by common people :-)

  • @JamPL
    @JamPL 3 года назад +12

    Fajne auto. Daje naped dokladnie tam
    gdzie akurat nie jest potrzebny. Haha

  • @mattyee9369
    @mattyee9369 Год назад

    What happens when you take a car that was designed rear wheel drive and add front wheel drive components. The rear wheel drive is favored and will push it through. However, when the rear wheels were on the rollers, the front had no power to pull it off.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Год назад +1

      But it's FWD based, not rwd. Besides - it actually doesn't matter. What matters is the center differential type and traction control setup.

  • @legpeguk
    @legpeguk Год назад

    Well I had an 2005 model with the 3.0 AWD system and it wouldn't have reacted like this. Mine was permanent 4wd with a 60/40 split rear to front. Very sure footed and fun. What's the point in 4wd if the computer says "no"?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Год назад +1

      If it was 2005 then it was the same as this one.

    • @legpeguk
      @legpeguk Год назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers LOL. No chance mine was like this. Sorry, but you clearly have a faulty vehicle there!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Год назад +1

      @@legpeguk It wasn't faulty. That's how ESP/TC works on this model.

    • @legpeguk
      @legpeguk Год назад

      Why would it be designed like that? Its pointless. Again mine was nothing like that. I had an auto.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Год назад +1

      @@legpeguk That's a question to Jaguar. Early versions had no ESP/TC but they had viscous center differential. Later versions got ESP/TC but the center differential was open so all work is up to traction control system which is not effective enough.

  • @elkinmosquera4883
    @elkinmosquera4883 Год назад

    OH MY GOD😫

  • @DjHiszpan2012
    @DjHiszpan2012 8 месяцев назад

    Jak dobrze rozumie pierwszy test na poczatku gdzie kreca sie tylko kola tylne. Jakbym wyjal przednie pol osie ale zostail skrzynie kątową to mialbym 100% na sam tyl?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  8 месяцев назад +1

      Nie, wtedy byś nawet nie ruszył, bo dyfer kręcił by tylko wyjściami na przednie półosie.

    • @DjHiszpan2012
      @DjHiszpan2012 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers dzięki bardzo za odpowiedź

  • @satrioh
    @satrioh 3 года назад

    Please test Toyota Harrier / lexus RX300 XU10 (1st gen).

  • @dzikudawca
    @dzikudawca 2 года назад

    Witam, od dłuższego czasu nurtuje mnie pewne zagadnienie i może otrzymam na nie odpowiedź. Otóż przy napędzie 4x4 jak w tym jaguarze w momencie gdy nie może złapać trakcji i kręcą się koła powiedzmy tylne zostałby delikatnie wciśnięty hamulec to moment przeniósłby się na przednie koła? Jak coś to mam jaguara x-type 2.5 awd z 2004 roku, widziałem, że ktoś pytał o test. Mogę udostępnić w razie czego do testu. Kwestia tylko jak daleko od siebie mieszkamy :) pozdrawiam

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  2 года назад

      Witam. Testowany egzemplarz ma otwarty centralny mechanizm różnicowy, w związku z czym rozkład momentu zawsze jest stały. Jeśli kręcą się tylne koła, a zostanie wciśnięty hamulec, przy jednoczesnym dociśnięciu gazu - można w ten sposób zwiększyć moment na obu osiach. Starsza wersja ma sprzęgło wiskotyczne w centralnym dyfrze, więc ingerencja hamulców nie jest potrzebna.
      Jesteśmy z Rzeszowa 🙂

    • @dzikudawca
      @dzikudawca 2 года назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers ja z kolei jestem z okolicy Oświęcimia. Jeśli będę planował podróż w tamte zakątki to najwyżej się odezwę. Dzięki za odpowiedź i pozdrawiam

  • @dode6781
    @dode6781 3 года назад

    Could you please do the bmw 3 G20 xdrive

  • @user-ko9mg8mx7p
    @user-ko9mg8mx7p 3 года назад +3

    How does this awd work? Does it have any lsd? Obviously the middle diff is open

    • @piciu256
      @piciu256 3 года назад

      Obviously it's the computer at work...

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +2

      All diffs open, center is 40/60. The rest up to traction control.

  • @christalmora5859
    @christalmora5859 7 месяцев назад +1

    Odd. I have a 2005 X-type 3.0 V6 and I live in Alberta, Canada. Never had any issues in the snow.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  7 месяцев назад

      But what exactly is odd?

    • @christalmora5859
      @christalmora5859 7 месяцев назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Good question. I really don't know what these tests are for. I assumed they were to show how good the AWD is and if they can't jump off the rollers then the AWD drive is bad. I'm ignorant. My apologies.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  7 месяцев назад

      @@christalmora5859 It's more complex matter than just jumping off (or not) the rollers 🙂

  • @danielberanek2179
    @danielberanek2179 3 года назад +5

    Tak tohle AWD je úplně k ničemu 😃

  • @gerlandkent6377
    @gerlandkent6377 Год назад +1

    [I, own a 2004, awd. X type 3.0 jaguar. British Racing green tan. leather interior]

  • @rvrffdd6416
    @rvrffdd6416 3 года назад +2

    Jaguar awd. Ain't Wise Decision

  • @borjaevo
    @borjaevo 2 года назад +1

    No sense to disable ESP because it also disables traction control and this is open diff.

  • @Tanger20011
    @Tanger20011 3 года назад

    What about Jaguar FPace???

  • @isaneterrier6678
    @isaneterrier6678 2 года назад +2

    très bon test. Donc il faut se contenter d'avoir écrit 4x4 sur l'auto.

  • @tomasashenafi882
    @tomasashenafi882 3 года назад +1

    Huh?!?! Its a miracle this thing even moves

  • @user-fy6ky9xv6b
    @user-fy6ky9xv6b 3 года назад

    Это полное фиаско((

  • @NickFje
    @NickFje 3 года назад +1

    I was surprised to see it perform this badly. My Jaguar x type 2,5 2003 model is my winter car and I have much better traction on snow and ice than my friends audi a4 and a6 and also better traction than many bmw's my brother have had.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +2

      You probably have version with viscous center diff. The one here is open.

    • @NickFje
      @NickFje 3 года назад +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yeah, I think that's the case

  • @robertp.
    @robertp. 3 года назад +4

    😂😂😂

  • @fixanddrive
    @fixanddrive 3 года назад +2

    Toż to gorzej chodzi jak moja Honda CR-V

  • @chuck2367
    @chuck2367 3 года назад

    It did what it was designed to do. Send power to 1 wheel for burnouts. Its not All Wheel Drive. It's All wheel Dave. And Dave love burnouts

  • @antonawi4
    @antonawi4 3 года назад +3

    Buying this four-wheel drive car makes no sense at all. why bother to build a four-wheel drive in this way if it doesn't work at all

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 3 года назад +1

      It works. But not very good.

    • @antonawi4
      @antonawi4 3 года назад +1

      @@martinsvensson6884 The way the system works I'm more afraid that I will get stuck faster than you will get out of it at all because the system works so strangely.

  • @umutooo
    @umutooo 3 года назад +5

    What a shame!

  • @samin2173
    @samin2173 3 года назад +2

    Jaguar AWD = All Wheel Disaster

  • @aleksandrbalabanov
    @aleksandrbalabanov 3 года назад +1

    После этого видео, я продал свой ягуар...

    • @uldzha9778
      @uldzha9778 3 года назад

      Ты его покупал чтобы по скалам карабкаться?

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 3 года назад +1

    This maybe the worse AWD system I have seen so far on this channel. Utterly hopeless in any traction loss situation on either axle.

  • @DriveKosmo
    @DriveKosmo 3 года назад +1

    Co to za napęd , że nic nie daje 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @krzysztoftkacz
      @krzysztoftkacz 3 года назад +1

      Jak ktoś tu wcześniej napisał: daje napęd dokładnie tam, gdzie nie potrzeba :D

  • @danielwojtas2397
    @danielwojtas2397 3 года назад

    Ten cały napęd to jakaś ściema chyba ... On nie ma żadnego układu nawet elektronicznego np blokowanie hamulcu żeby przekazać napęd ? Widać przynajmniej że trzeba zaciągnąć ręczny żeby przednie koła się kręciły .

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 года назад +1

      Trzy otwarte dyfry. Ma kontrolę trakcji, układ hamuje koła, inaczej samochód nie poradziłby sobie w żadnym z tych testów.

  • @jerryl6634
    @jerryl6634 3 года назад +6

    Fat, domesticated kitty, not a jaguar 😆

  • @pipimontana
    @pipimontana 3 года назад

    Ford Mondeo

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 3 года назад +1

    That is one awd car i will never buy what a pile of junk...

  • @alikate555
    @alikate555 3 года назад +1

    really too bad ¡¡

  • @techjenius
    @techjenius 3 года назад +1

    ❓️🤔
    これは
    JAGUAR X-type = Ford mondeo MK.1 4x4 と 同じ gearbox ですか❓️🤔

    • @MrAdamovichvv
      @MrAdamovichvv 3 года назад

      No

    • @techjenius
      @techjenius 3 года назад

      @@MrAdamovichvv 様
      ありがとうございます👌

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 3 года назад +1

    That's a scam, selling it as AWD 😲🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @scott8919
      @scott8919 3 года назад +2

      Well it is *technically* putting power to both axles. It's just useless when you actually need it.

  • @ceyhunugur5219
    @ceyhunugur5219 2 года назад

    Bu arabadan cacık olmaz

  • @sachkf1501995
    @sachkf1501995 3 года назад

    An AWD trying to be RWD wannabe.

  • @Mamo878
    @Mamo878 3 года назад +1

    FAIL

  • @GetToDaChopa
    @GetToDaChopa 3 года назад

    oh god this is the most pathetic awd system in existence. it would actually be better if it was just fwd