22:28 That sounds a little silly, him just freeing imprisoned people. Remember how he 'bargained' with Lucci in Egghead too. '''Me free cause me no like chains'' wasnt a thing there.
I have a theory : Loki is called cursed prince since his birth & being hated and out of that hatred he did some small small bad things as he is growing up his hatred lead him to decide let's just end this damn world. And after that he saw Lola fallen in love but after after the rejection he is completely gone insane & even killed his father to get devil fruit.
if that is a weapon on Loki's back 1 its s strange to leave a prisoner with a weapon regardless of chains 2 what if its Mjölnir and physically cant move cause its holding him down and its perhaps got seastone handle to mitigate the devil fruit perfect weapon in some situations
Can't wait for the new Vivre Cards, the new SBS and Oda's 10 Answers about the future of the manga. We will have a lot to talk about next week. The Vivre Card teaser said we will find out Koby's home island, SWORD's Cross Guild bounties and STUSSY'S DEVIL FRUIT NAME!!!!!!!
I think the giant silhouettes that were in thriller bark arc, in the Florian Triangle would be able to wield that giant sword on Elbaf. Besides the giant silhouettes in skypiea the ones in the Florian Triangle were never explained. Side note there also shaped like Imu without the crown.
It was kinda shocking lol, like I get that it’s supposed to be easy for people to respond but it kinda takes away from the meaning of a response imo (unless it’s a company/corpo video)
Imo the Loki’s Devil fruit is the original Gum Gum fruit and the reason why it was passed down gen to gen in Elbaph is because they thought whoever will awaken it will become the Sun God who they worship. And the reason why Loki has revealed himself as SunGod might be related to him awakening the original Gum Gum fruit.
I was really thinking when the gorosei arrived, the anime would go all black and white/ become desaturated and the gorosei would be black and white too lol, I guess I am just used to them in manga
I kinda feel like Loki Devil Fruit power will let him augment his size, whether it be growing himself even more, or even shrinking himself to Franky's size. For some reason, I'm getting the vibe that he will join the Strawhat crew and him being able to shrink his size to fit on the ship will be a thing.
It is possible to be Fenrir. If you look up a skull of a wolf or Fenrir. It is similar to what Rodo was wearing. He has an idea of what the Sun God in Elbaf looks like
If Vivi sends a message to Alabasta, Alabasta might be the next to get erased from the map...or if she shows up in the newspaper, Morgan's base would get attacked. Sending the message to the Strawhats is the most openly discreet message she can send and one that she will be immediately understood by no one else but the Alabasta six since its an insider thing for them (and maybe Robin)
imagine if the giant sword is somewhat like thor's hammer and at the end of the arc when ussop becomes a truly brave warrior of the sea lift that sword and everyone worships him lmao that would be wholesome
One thing I just realized is that if Loki does have a fenrir fruit, it would make it the second major outlier character Luffy has interacted with since wano to have a wolf/canine fruit. This in turn made me remember Luffy dancing with wolves in Skypiea, in a scene where he's heavily reminiscent of Nika. May there be some correlation?
I really liked the Nachtkrapp theory. I mean it makes sense. Loki’s eyes are bandaged. Also, it may be the reason why he’s tied up. Because according to legend, the Nachtkrapp spreads disease and death. So tying him to the tree reduces damages. As well as the theory of Loki having three eyes. His three eyes correspond with his three point crowns as well. Following the cursed child alias he has benign an impure giant. To follow up my Nachtkrapp theory, it says that if you become too greedy around it, it will show it’s true form and eat you whole. Meaning, pirates or anyone that is too greedy will face its wrath. Hence why fleets of pirates can’t get into Elbaf as much. And since Giants are known for their glory and dutiful nature/selflessness Loki may have been misunderstood too.
if loki is THE villain who are the straw hats gonna fight? everyone hates loki he has no supporters unless he has some super secret supporters? i feel like the elbaph arc isnt gonna have an all out war like wano unless loki has supporters or a third party is introduced
I'm still not totally convinced that killing your father for the df isn't just a ritual within the elbaph royal family. 1. Easy, straightforward way to pass it down. 2. Being able to defeat the user of a legendary fruit without one yourself would prove you're worthy of having it. 3. Parallels the Zoro/Mihawk relationship. Maybe Loki's father trained him specifically to be able to defeat him someday. Maybe Loki was seen as a weakling and Hajrudin was stronger and more likely to get the fruit, so Loki cheated kinda, and poisoned Harald or killed him in his sleep instead of doing it the right way in a ritualistic battle.
I think the most likely story with the sword is that is a Wukong Staff type weapon or that its size was altered by some devil fruit (Lokis fruit could be a fruit able to alter sizes of things including himself and that's why he's so big) ((or if you want to go even deeper, Luffy has the Human Human Fruit model-Nika/ Sun God, could Loki have the Giant Giant Fruit Model- Sun God/ Nika ?))
9:40 Perhaps it's the sword *SURTR* will wield as he destroys Elbaph(Asgard) to bring about Ragnarok? Given that Oda has simply given the Norsemen/Asgardians a default size of "Giant" within the OP world, and when pondering the relative size of various iterations of Surtr comparative to the Asgardians, 'The Destroyer of Asgard' was himself another level of size, thus presenting in this story as a "Giant among Giants". I realize the sword is not imbued of fire at this given time; perhaps Sutr himself must be the one to ignite the embers as Ragnarok draws closer to becoming a reality on Elbaph/Asgard/9-Realms (or perhaps it could be that the entirety of the Red Line/Marie Geoise becomes stand-in placeholder for Asgard in order to drive the plot). One does wonder 🤔... These cycles of death and rebirth serve to remind that time is a flat circle; occurrences may differ in a 'Mandela Effect' sort of means which sees a host of substitutions become new variables of past physical objects and entities, simply to recycle the 'death and rebirth' Trope, to facilitate an interpretive repetition of expected prophecies via the "easy" method of simply giving us a many-times-told, picture perfect recap of Norse Mythos, irrespective of the usual amount of audience subversion we've come to expect from Oda and One Piece.
That would make a alot of sense on why they left him in the Coldest Part Of Elbaf. If he could turn things ablaze with just his eyes or Do harm with just his eyes, its possible he has a Blazing Devil fruit. However Unlike Luffy or Sabo, his flames are hell flames. Also, i think that Luffy and Ussop are going to be the 2 people to take down Loki if he is evil. Luffy will masters his use of Advanced Conquerors and ussop will be able to project the future like Mihawk And Yasopp. This could make him the pillar of the straw hats
hey i am not much of a theorist, however thinking about the lion point you brought up reminded me of the god Narasimha and i believe he will make a great mythical zoan type
Posted this 3 days ago on another channel... So I could see it being related to like a Lion. Sphinx and Qilin are prophetic so I think it's something along those lines. Mythical Zoan Dragon Dragon Fruit: Model Qilin (Kirin) The qilin is a legendary hooved chimerical creature that appears in Chinese mythology, and is said to appear with the imminent arrival or death of a sage or illustrious ruler. Qilin are a specific type of the lin mythological family of horned beasts. (Loki killing the former King of Elbaph would be the death of illustrious ruler or Sage, thus Loki now appearing as the new Qilin. Qilin are a combination between deer, lions, and dragons. We see how important horns are in Elbaph, maybe even deer considering how Chopper was treated by Road versus thebrest of the crew. Loki's horns already resemble the antlers of a Qilin. His wild hair also fits the aesthetic of the mane of a Qilin. - In some legends, the Qilin is depicted as a fierce and powerful beast, with the ability to breathe fire and transform into different forms. (Sun God/Fire abilities and Loki/shape shifting abilities) -Qilins' representations often suggest that these creatures have special powers or abilities. Some of their powers include: Prophecy. Telling good from evil. (Loki's prophecy of destroying the world just like Madame Shirley's prophecy of Luffy destroying the world, and they both being potential Sun gods, is too uncanny to be coincidence. Loki's eyes may be bandaged to prevent him from further prophesying.)
My theory , that i am locking in , is that garling becomes fenrir , and pulls up on elbaf and starts the ragnarok. Defeating the giant nation , will be the start of his great regime . I mean he has the wolf and moon motif .
Part of me wants to believe he has the real gomu gomu no mi that Luffy originally thought he had. Like Joyboy and Luffy had the Nika fruit, but maybe Nika had the original Gomu Gomu no mi and that’s what Loki got his hands on so both of their claims to the SunGod could be legit. (Nika gets Gomu, changes lives and becomes a legend. People wish and dream to become like the legend, and the model nika is formed. Both could exist)
Maybe Lokis DF might be like a surtur surtur nomi or some shit like that. Surtur in Norse mythology is a fire GIANT who wields a SWORD and destroys Asgard in the end times/RAGNAROK of the Norse mythos. Surtur and Loki are the two "supreme evils" or main antagonists in old Scandinavian myths. I'm like 90% sure that this is correct. Everything in the last chapter shows that loki has surtur powers
This is going to sound left field, but in the MCU "Ragnarok" Surtr cannot die until he fulfills his destiny and destroys Asgard, it is a prophecy. He was broken by Thor at the beginning of the film, but he says "When my crown is reunited with the eternal flame, I will be restored to my full might. I will tower over the mountains and burry my sword deep in Asgard." Thor follows up by saying that "Odin keeps the eternal flame locked away in the vault on Asgard"... This is all lining up way too close to be a coincidence...
Sy you should try out God Of War (the recent ones) it talks about norse mythology maybe it could give you insights for the current arc. That and it really is just a good game to play/stream.
We have powers in One Piece that manipulate the weight of objects and the user. Maybe one of them could use it? Doesn’t Shiki have the float float fruit? I bet he could make it weightless and use it
Loki could have the Hoshi-Hoshi Mi the star logia which allows him to become a star providing him with the power to manipulate light alter weather thanks to changing the planets orbit
Hey, Syv i’m sorry to bother you, but will you take a moment of your time and look at this color spread?, I was looking at 1047color spreads closely when I noticed ussop closely you can see him kinda look like if he was reaching for a devil fruit mad out of momos flame and scales in a shape of an apple behind his hands I have not seen anyone talk about this what are your thoughts please????!!!!!!! Lmk can oda be hinting something
Assuming Oda continues on his path of fooling us with silhouettes, Imu’s eventual reveal is going time be Insane! The wacker the silhouette, the cooler the character.
24:12 ok so maybe he has a fruit based off of the pet of Ra in Egyptian mythology Shekmet or something like that but she’s like a lion goddess that is directly under Ra the sun god
5:07 Or maybe he did a Kyoshiro. 11:40 Hpable. 13:51 They could've been talking about Jarul Jr. 17:05 Don't worry, the last native speaker died some 6 centuries ago (well, if you can call a language evolving into another "dying"). The reasonable people of the internet would never get offended by something like that.
If Loki means he's LITERALLY the Sun God(and we have the "Human Human Fruit Model: Sun God (Nika)" Classification), then he might have the 'Human Human Fruit: Model Sun God(Sol)' classification, the Norse Goddess of the sun. Maybe there is in fact a reason Oda named Luffy's fruit after a God in the world instead of just being the generic "Sun God" fruit. Here's a brief Ai snippet of some basic info from a google search. "In Norse mythology, Sol is the personification of the sun, depicted as a goddess. She is often referred to as Sol Mundilfœrisdottir, meaning “Sol, daughter of Mundilfœri”. Sol is extremely powerful, possibly wielding abilities similar to those of the Greek god Helios. As the goddess of the sun, Sol is destined to die at the jaws of Sköll and Hati in the beginning of Ragnarök, the Norse apocalypse. She is also the sister of Mani, the god of the moon. Sol, the personification of the sun, is immortal and has the power of photokinesis, allowing her to control or manipulate sunlight. Mani, the personification of the moon, is also immortal and has no explicitly stated powers in the mythological records. Both Sol and Mani are chased by wolves Skoll and Hati, respectively, which symbolize the constant threat of eclipses and the cyclical nature of time." Loki did say he wants to end the world, and both the true Loki and Sol have pretty bad fates post Ragnarok, Loki is also a fairly Jesus like figure in Norse texts, essentially sacrificing himself to topple the Norse Gods many of which were similar to most other pre-Christianity Pantheon gods, i.e. not the most friendly or kind to mortals, seeing them more as playthings to be lorded over than anything else. So he may be a bad guy for NOW only to redeem himself in death at the end of the arc, or an arc after it if he survives the events of Elbaph. We'll have to wait and see but maybe Hajrudin is a parallel to Sols brother god, Mani. Imu seems to possibly represent the Moon to some degree as well so perhaps we'll see an Eclipse be important in this arc near the end of it, especially if Oda's taking a 3 week break to study Norse mythology.
Loki be lion could definitely be an oda pun because loki is the god of lies, the east cat is like Cheshire cat also a trickster, maybe a connection there?
Loki's devil fruit power whatever it may be will additionally have the power to cause a solar eclipse to that of fire, perhaps he has summoning or conjuring abilities and can conjure Fenrir, Hel, Jourmandr. I bet the reason his eyes are bandaged and he has his accursed epithet is cuz he has fiery burning eyes and it terrfies the giants when they look at him so they covered his eyes 15:25 Loki might be misinterpreting the joyboy prophecy thinking that joyboy or the sun god would end the world but instead joyboy wanted to terraform the world for his friends
Hito Hito model Heimdall? Or the All All fruit? It allows him to see everything across the realms like Heimdall and that’s his eyes are covered. Heimdall also controls the BiFrost aka a burning rainbow/sun bridge and Heimdall connects the gods to the mortal realm aka turning the world upside down, bringing the celestial dragons down to earth so to speak? Bringing down the red line..?
I have a feeling Usopp is gonna move the sword with God Usopp shenanigans. I mean Hajrudin was the one who lifted Usopp in the air when he was GOATed, so it would have tie ins.
The giants actually said it took all the warriors of Elbaph to defeat him not all the giants if they consider shanks to be a warrior of elbaph he definitely would have been involved in this fight meaning Loki is incredibly strong to stand against the giants and shanks at the same time also this could be the event that earned shanks his title as Yonko 6 years ago since the giants said it was rather recent and to them that would be like a month ago
@syvSpoilers this is off topic. Black beard or members of his crew will catch Vivi lacking on her way to Luffy and kidnap her in order to get into marijois. Bb already knows about Imu, and his goal is to get as close as possible to Imu to backstab him and take over.
No one is even mentioning how it's possible that Loki was just born this way. Perhaps he's misunderstood and can't control his powers that came with him being an accursed child. Yes, he killed his father for the rare DF, but in what context? Maybe hes got some weird split personality like Cabbage from Dressrosa. Maybe he did it in a blind rage and regrets it. Maybe he doesn't want to bring the end of the world... but he's been told his whole life that he's destined to do so. Maybe he let the other giants chain him up. Because you have to remember that Luffy geherally has a good sense of judgment when it comes to people and their alterier motives. Yes, Loki is a bad guy...... but is he really a bad guy?? (Wreck it Ralph ftw) Edited for spelling errors, lol.
“We sent the WORST sh over to Loki” 2:18 Honestly he really is the worst SH , I want to give him credit but he would be DEAD so many times over now without the squad and Oda has made that clear. Every SH has saved Luffy at least once.
This sword is prob the one nika is holding in the iconic photo in that arc in the sky. He’s prob gonna become a giant giant take the sword maybe shrink it and later give it to Zoro to use or he uses it himself this arc and its the key to kill imu
Just a thought but maybe freeing Loki will be how fluffy will start the final conflict, causing massive destructive impact on the world and fulfil madam Sharley's prophecy indirectly
Loki just gives me goat mans vibes, Satan is depicted with a goat head and is supposed to bring the end times. That sounds like a twisted version of the "sun god" since Luffy is supposed to bring the new dawn and goats have unmistakable eyes which could be why lokis are covered. There is so much more I want to say but I want to keep this comment shirt in hopes it gets picked
In case syv reads this the other things are road was wearing a skull parading around as the sun god maybe he couldn't get a goat skull for his cosplay and went for something similar, after all animals seem to be highly regarded. Goats have other religious ties too the most obvious ones being the fact goats were used as sacrifices specifically their blood. Because it's importance and meaning so maybe this could link to lokis devil fruit since devil fruits change you're lineage factor which has been getting more and more important lately. Sure this can all be wrong or a big stretch but I feel like there is some merit to this and I could be on the right track. To the people who are probably going to say it wouldn't be a strong devil fruit if it's just a special goat, but Satan is a deceiver and a liar which is heavily stated through the Bible but he can also change forms, he was the snake in the garden of Eden, he took the form of one of gods angels after he had already fallen so he coukd trick Luffy into freeing him which would start a huge event. Maybe that could play into why the giants haven't just killed this dude. He is chained up why not kill him, maybe because that would be guess as killing a god or a son of God, their savior if you wanna link this back to Christianity. Which oda could use for the giants to side with Loki and go against Luffy following a fake light only for the real one to shine even brighter and lead all the ones in darkness back into the light, starting the new dawn. Another thing that interest me is why do any of this? Why does he want to end the world, what started all this. We could say it was Lola for the memes but maybes it's his devil fruit, zosns have a will of their own that always match up with the host somehow and we also know awakened zosn users can be overtaken by their fruit like the jailer beast so maybe in the end Loki only does this because his devil fruit is what tempted him and less him down this destructive path, it was all caused by his selfish desires. The possible themes and narrative impact this could have is exciting to me there are so many ways ods can take this
It would be funny if Loki had the mythical fruit Balder/norse god of light, who died n was resurrected, and immune to all forms of harm except the mistletoe. Loki was said to be crucified or attempted to be killed like kaido?
I have a really big theory and some head canon here bear with me here. Wouldn’t it be interesting if Elbaf sort of tied into King Arthur lore? Obviously there’s this huge sword that we’ve all been seeing and I’m curious about that. This sword is stuck inside of Yggdrasil. What if Elbaf had been waiting all these years for the true “Sun God” to come and pull it out? To claim the actual throne and what we have been getting are just “fill in kings” until the true king has arrived. Perhaps that’s why we’ve been getting so many “fake sun gods” and they’ve been waiting on Luffy this entire time. Before anyone says that sounds crazy, let’s all remember Luffy is only bound by his imagination. He can become a giant in gear 5 so that can tie into the lore. On top of which Sun Gun Nika is visualized as having a sword in Who’s Who scene! Foreshadowing perhaps? Perhaps Luffy will pull out this sword and maybe him and Loki will have a duel because Loki feels as if he is entitled to the throne? Let me know what you guys think!
I think Rodo may have given us an hint a Loki's devil fruit with his elk skull mask, since he is pretending to be the sun god in his mini Elbaf. Mythical Elk Elk fruit, model Wendigo.
The deer mask may be a reference to the old norse word _dýr_ which means "deer" but can refer to any wild animal. Like other giants, Road is likely named for the wrestler Animal of the duo The Road Warrors.
Maybe the sword was used by the first Nika and Nika mode they can make the sword shrink or grow using the ridiculousness of the sun God power maybe it’s a normal sword that when he grew into a giant and stabbed the ground to make a point to rally the Giantswhen he shrink back down a remaining giant sword
What if that is Joy boy sword and Lucy uses his awakening on it to make it small and take it with him because Joy boy used to have a sword and a spear but he doesn’t have to it’s just a head canon
What if oda is doing something like the trails for Hercules. Last major arc we had the hydra this time we have loki as the lion with a impenetrable hide maybe that why he's tied to the tree?
What if the devil fruit Loki stole was a weapon that consumed a devil fruit I feel like since Norse mythology has so many legendary magical weapons this could check out
What if shanks went to the celestial dragons to talk to them about Loki, what if he needed enough seastone chain to hold him down because he was so dangerous
I mean the War God Elbaf has been mentioned a few times right? maybe thats the name of the fruit, hito hito no mi model war god elbaf, and its pretty much just based on surtyr?
Luffy’s eating first… thinking 💭 last and asking questions never… he’s a Yonko now… say something 💥👊 🔜™️🏴☠️👑😈‼️ Blackbeard vs Shanks is about to go down… Oda draw that for us . Gotta give him props a lot of respect…
Loki is the sun god and Luffy was a poser confirmed
Don’t ever try the pirate king like that u a poser
@@treybstuntn1187 🥺…🤡
Thats funny 😂
Rodo the real sun god actually**
22:28 That sounds a little silly, him just freeing imprisoned people. Remember how he 'bargained' with Lucci in Egghead too. '''Me free cause me no like chains'' wasnt a thing there.
I have a theory :
Loki is called cursed prince since his birth & being hated and out of that hatred he did some small small bad things as he is growing up his hatred lead him to decide let's just end this damn world. And after that he saw Lola fallen in love but after after the rejection he is completely gone insane & even killed his father to get devil fruit.
extremely early let’s gooo. love these videos man
Why can't Luffy shrink things?
if that is a weapon on Loki's back 1 its s strange to leave a prisoner with a weapon regardless of chains 2 what if its Mjölnir and physically cant move cause its holding him down and its perhaps got seastone handle to mitigate the devil fruit perfect weapon in some situations
Those colors are perfect for them now they look as they act
Can't wait for the new Vivre Cards, the new SBS and Oda's 10 Answers about the future of the manga.
We will have a lot to talk about next week.
The Vivre Card teaser said we will find out Koby's home island, SWORD's Cross Guild bounties and STUSSY'S DEVIL FRUIT NAME!!!!!!!
Hito Hito no Mi Mythical Model: Lilith
@@overlookers why Lilith specifically?
I think the giant silhouettes that were in thriller bark arc, in the Florian Triangle would be able to wield that giant sword on Elbaf. Besides the giant silhouettes in skypiea the ones in the Florian Triangle were never explained. Side note there also shaped like Imu without the crown.
The ones on skypiea were explained to be shadows
I hope we see more of those things they were pretty freaking cool and scary actually no lie
@@sleepercell1679 Forreal the fact they were just watching is scary. There to big to be acting like creepers! lol
@@zakariarakhrour9158 Ya in Skypiea it was just the natives, but in Thriller bark they werent explained
that ai reply is hilarious 😂
It was kinda shocking lol, like I get that it’s supposed to be easy for people to respond but it kinda takes away from the meaning of a response imo (unless it’s a company/corpo video)
@@Syv Ai can be great for helping with certain inconveniences, but i don't like it when its trying to take away the human experience and interactions
@@SyvHow can we be sure that this isn’t even an AI response?😂
@@SyvThis response was AI generated right
Imo the Loki’s Devil fruit is the original Gum Gum fruit and the reason why it was passed down gen to gen in Elbaph is because they thought whoever will awaken it will become the Sun God who they worship. And the reason why Loki has revealed himself as SunGod might be related to him awakening the original Gum Gum fruit.
I was really thinking when the gorosei arrived, the anime would go all black and white/ become desaturated and the gorosei would be black and white too lol, I guess I am just used to them in manga
I really wish anime would go more of a darkish tone instead of bright colours all the time
It's perfect for the jokes they are especially saturn and mars@@Betacr1tikal
Loki might be a fusion of Jango, Doffy, and Luffy himself. The resin resin no mi
Naw...that wouldn't make his eyes glow
But then it again. It could be haki
I kinda feel like Loki Devil Fruit power will let him augment his size, whether it be growing himself even more, or even shrinking himself to Franky's size. For some reason, I'm getting the vibe that he will join the Strawhat crew and him being able to shrink his size to fit on the ship will be a thing.
Im pretty sure San Juan wolf already has a fruit like that
The tree uses the sword! It's the tree's sword! The tree sword! The sword of the tree! SWORDMAN GROOT!
Ussop finna go crazy with that sword remember he can lift 10ton hammer😭
Confirmed, saturn is the purple guy, he was there during the bite of void century. Haur haur haur haur har
It is possible to be Fenrir. If you look up a skull of a wolf or Fenrir. It is similar to what Rodo was wearing. He has an idea of what the Sun God in Elbaf looks like
If Vivi sends a message to Alabasta, Alabasta might be the next to get erased from the map...or if she shows up in the newspaper, Morgan's base would get attacked.
Sending the message to the Strawhats is the most openly discreet message she can send and one that she will be immediately understood by no one else but the Alabasta six since its an insider thing for them (and maybe Robin)
imagine if the giant sword is somewhat like thor's hammer and at the end of the arc when ussop becomes a truly brave warrior of the sea lift that sword and everyone worships him lmao that would be wholesome
One thing I just realized is that if Loki does have a fenrir fruit, it would make it the second major outlier character Luffy has interacted with since wano to have a wolf/canine fruit. This in turn made me remember Luffy dancing with wolves in Skypiea, in a scene where he's heavily reminiscent of Nika. May there be some correlation?
Loki will become this generation’s kaido 4:28 a few seconds earlier syv says has a nation ever banned together to take someone down.. it’s kaido
I agree. Also could Loki's devil fruit be a mythical or ancient zoan snake - snake fruit model Níðhǫggr or Jörmungandr?
I really liked the Nachtkrapp theory. I mean it makes sense. Loki’s eyes are bandaged. Also, it may be the reason why he’s tied up. Because according to legend, the Nachtkrapp spreads disease and death. So tying him to the tree reduces damages. As well as the theory of Loki having three eyes.
His three eyes correspond with his three point crowns as well. Following the cursed child alias he has benign an impure giant. To follow up my Nachtkrapp theory, it says that if you become too greedy around it, it will show it’s true form and eat you whole. Meaning, pirates or anyone that is too greedy will face its wrath. Hence why fleets of pirates can’t get into Elbaf as much. And since Giants are known for their glory and dutiful nature/selflessness Loki may have been misunderstood too.
if loki is THE villain who are the straw hats gonna fight? everyone hates loki he has no supporters unless he has some super secret supporters? i feel like the elbaph arc isnt gonna have an all out war like wano unless loki has supporters or a third party is introduced
I personally see it like a zou type arc
i feel like elbaph could be a result of a previous giant giant fruit awakening and that's why everything on the island is so big, including the sword.
I'm still not totally convinced that killing your father for the df isn't just a ritual within the elbaph royal family.
1. Easy, straightforward way to pass it down.
2. Being able to defeat the user of a legendary fruit without one yourself would prove you're worthy of having it.
3. Parallels the Zoro/Mihawk relationship. Maybe Loki's father trained him specifically to be able to defeat him someday.
Maybe Loki was seen as a weakling and Hajrudin was stronger and more likely to get the fruit, so Loki cheated kinda, and poisoned Harald or killed him in his sleep instead of doing it the right way in a ritualistic battle.
I hope Luffy and Loki become friends
I think the most likely story with the sword is that is a Wukong Staff type weapon or that its size was altered by some devil fruit (Lokis fruit could be a fruit able to alter sizes of things including himself and that's why he's so big) ((or if you want to go even deeper, Luffy has the Human Human Fruit model-Nika/ Sun God, could Loki have the Giant Giant Fruit Model- Sun God/ Nika ?))
I think Loki has a Plasma type Devil fruit something similar to Enels lightning
9:40 Perhaps it's the sword *SURTR* will wield as he destroys Elbaph(Asgard) to bring about Ragnarok? Given that Oda has simply given the Norsemen/Asgardians a default size of "Giant" within the OP world, and when pondering the relative size of various iterations of Surtr comparative to the Asgardians, 'The Destroyer of Asgard' was himself another level of size, thus presenting in this story as a "Giant among Giants". I realize the sword is not imbued of fire at this given time; perhaps Sutr himself must be the one to ignite the embers as Ragnarok draws closer to becoming a reality on Elbaph/Asgard/9-Realms (or perhaps it could be that the entirety of the Red Line/Marie Geoise becomes stand-in placeholder for Asgard in order to drive the plot). One does wonder 🤔... These cycles of death and rebirth serve to remind that time is a flat circle; occurrences may differ in a 'Mandela Effect' sort of means which sees a host of substitutions become new variables of past physical objects and entities, simply to recycle the 'death and rebirth' Trope, to facilitate an interpretive repetition of expected prophecies via the "easy" method of simply giving us a many-times-told, picture perfect recap of Norse Mythos, irrespective of the usual amount of audience subversion we've come to expect from Oda and One Piece.
That would make a alot of sense on why they left him in the Coldest Part Of Elbaf. If he could turn things ablaze with just his eyes or Do harm with just his eyes, its possible he has a Blazing Devil fruit. However Unlike Luffy or Sabo, his flames are hell flames.
Also, i think that Luffy and Ussop are going to be the 2 people to take down Loki if he is evil. Luffy will masters his use of Advanced Conquerors and ussop will be able to project the future like Mihawk And Yasopp. This could make him the pillar of the straw hats
First time I heard someone say he look like jango I was like Jamie fox?? 😂😂😂
hey i am not much of a theorist, however thinking about the lion point you brought up reminded me of the god Narasimha and i believe he will make a great mythical zoan type
Posted this 3 days ago on another channel... So I could see it being related to like a Lion. Sphinx and Qilin are prophetic so I think it's something along those lines.
Mythical Zoan
Dragon Dragon Fruit: Model Qilin (Kirin)
The qilin is a legendary hooved chimerical creature that appears in Chinese mythology, and is said to appear with the imminent arrival or death of a sage or illustrious ruler. Qilin are a specific type of the lin mythological family of horned beasts. (Loki killing the former King of Elbaph would be the death of illustrious ruler or Sage, thus Loki now appearing as the new Qilin. Qilin are a combination between deer, lions, and dragons. We see how important horns are in Elbaph, maybe even deer considering how Chopper was treated by Road versus thebrest of the crew. Loki's horns already resemble the antlers of a Qilin. His wild hair also fits the aesthetic of the mane of a Qilin.
- In some legends, the Qilin is depicted as a fierce and powerful beast, with the ability to breathe fire and transform into different forms. (Sun God/Fire abilities and Loki/shape shifting abilities)
-Qilins' representations often suggest that these creatures have special powers or abilities. Some of their powers include: Prophecy. Telling good from evil. (Loki's prophecy of destroying the world just like Madame Shirley's prophecy of Luffy destroying the world, and they both being potential Sun gods, is too uncanny to be coincidence. Loki's eyes may be bandaged to prevent him from further prophesying.)
My theory , that i am locking in , is that garling becomes fenrir , and pulls up on elbaf and starts the ragnarok. Defeating the giant nation , will be the start of his great regime . I mean he has the wolf and moon motif .
My theory , that I am locking in , is that Oda has a tongue fetish.
I feel like Jarl’s going to be so old that he’ll forget mid-way through telling them about the void century lmao
Part of me wants to believe he has the real gomu gomu no mi that Luffy originally thought he had. Like Joyboy and Luffy had the Nika fruit, but maybe Nika had the original Gomu Gomu no mi and that’s what Loki got his hands on so both of their claims to the SunGod could be legit.
(Nika gets Gomu, changes lives and becomes a legend. People wish and dream to become like the legend, and the model nika is formed. Both could exist)
Here's my theory now either we learn void century knowledge from the old giant or we learn that memories were erased it has to be
Maybe Lokis DF might be like a surtur
surtur nomi or some shit like that. Surtur in Norse
mythology is a fire GIANT who wields a SWORD and
destroys Asgard in the end times/RAGNAROK of the
Norse mythos. Surtur and Loki are the two
"supreme evils" or main antagonists in old
Scandinavian myths. I'm like 90% sure that this is
correct. Everything in the last chapter shows that
loki has surtur powers
I think it was joy boy's sword, he made it that big to protect it once Luffy reaches it it'll shrink back down so he can use it.
I'm fine with this color scheme for the Gorosei except Nusujuro. The Bakotsu flames should be blue to make him exclusive from Ju Peter.
This is going to sound left field, but in the MCU "Ragnarok" Surtr cannot die until he fulfills his destiny and destroys Asgard, it is a prophecy. He was broken by Thor at the beginning of the film, but he says "When my crown is reunited with the eternal flame, I will be restored to my full might. I will tower over the mountains and burry my sword deep in Asgard." Thor follows up by saying that "Odin keeps the eternal flame locked away in the vault on Asgard"... This is all lining up way too close to be a coincidence...
Sy you should try out God Of War (the recent ones) it talks about norse mythology maybe it could give you insights for the current arc. That and it really is just a good game to play/stream.
We have powers in One Piece that manipulate the weight of objects and the user. Maybe one of them could use it?
Doesn’t Shiki have the float float fruit? I bet he could make it weightless and use it
Loki could have the Hoshi-Hoshi Mi the star logia which allows him to become a star providing him with the power to manipulate light alter weather thanks to changing the planets orbit
The only giant we have met big enough to weild that sword belongs to the Skull on Onigashima. Proportion wise it kinda makes sense
Hey, Syv i’m sorry to bother you, but will you take a moment of your time and look at this color spread?, I was looking at 1047color spreads closely when I noticed ussop closely you can see him kinda look like if he was reaching for a devil fruit mad out of momos flame and scales in a shape of an apple behind his hands I have not seen anyone talk about this what are your thoughts please????!!!!!!! Lmk can oda be hinting something
I was thinking the Surter fruit, but the idea of the lion makes me think he could borrow from Greek mythology and have the Nemian Lion fruit
Loki has the same hair style as Lola, and has the hito hito no mi model: Lunarian
Assuming Oda continues on his path of fooling us with silhouettes, Imu’s eventual reveal is going time be Insane! The wacker the silhouette, the cooler the character.
Marcus Mars' coloring is perfect
24:12 ok so maybe he has a fruit based off of the pet of Ra in Egyptian mythology Shekmet or something like that but she’s like a lion goddess that is directly under Ra the sun god
5:07 Or maybe he did a Kyoshiro.
11:40 Hpable.
13:51 They could've been talking about Jarul Jr.
17:05 Don't worry, the last native speaker died some 6 centuries ago (well, if you can call a language evolving into another "dying"). The reasonable people of the internet would never get offended by something like that.
when it comes to the giant sword, i feel like the only person who could even construct it would have to be the sun god/joyboy.
If Loki means he's LITERALLY the Sun God(and we have the "Human Human Fruit Model: Sun God (Nika)" Classification), then he might have the 'Human Human Fruit: Model Sun God(Sol)' classification, the Norse Goddess of the sun. Maybe there is in fact a reason Oda named Luffy's fruit after a God in the world instead of just being the generic "Sun God" fruit.
Here's a brief Ai snippet of some basic info from a google search.
"In Norse mythology, Sol is the personification of the sun, depicted as a goddess. She is often referred to as Sol Mundilfœrisdottir, meaning “Sol, daughter of Mundilfœri”. Sol is extremely powerful, possibly wielding abilities similar to those of the Greek god Helios.
As the goddess of the sun, Sol is destined to die at the jaws of Sköll and Hati in the beginning of Ragnarök, the Norse apocalypse. She is also the sister of Mani, the god of the moon.
Sol, the personification of the sun, is immortal and has the power of photokinesis, allowing her to control or manipulate sunlight.
Mani, the personification of the moon, is also immortal and has no explicitly stated powers in the mythological records.
Both Sol and Mani are chased by wolves Skoll and Hati, respectively, which symbolize the constant threat of eclipses and the cyclical nature of time."
Loki did say he wants to end the world, and both the true Loki and Sol have pretty bad fates post Ragnarok, Loki is also a fairly Jesus like figure in Norse texts, essentially sacrificing himself to topple the Norse Gods many of which were similar to most other pre-Christianity Pantheon gods, i.e. not the most friendly or kind to mortals, seeing them more as playthings to be lorded over than anything else. So he may be a bad guy for NOW only to redeem himself in death at the end of the arc, or an arc after it if he survives the events of Elbaph.
We'll have to wait and see but maybe Hajrudin is a parallel to Sols brother god, Mani. Imu seems to possibly represent the Moon to some degree as well so perhaps we'll see an Eclipse be important in this arc near the end of it, especially if Oda's taking a 3 week break to study Norse mythology.
Fenrir in Norse mythology is Loki's son btw surprised no one said that and the world serpent is fenrir's brother
Loki be lion could definitely be an oda pun because loki is the god of lies, the east cat is like Cheshire cat also a trickster, maybe a connection there?
Loki's devil fruit power whatever it may be will additionally have the power to cause a solar eclipse to that of fire, perhaps he has summoning or conjuring abilities and can conjure Fenrir, Hel, Jourmandr. I bet the reason his eyes are bandaged and he has his accursed epithet is cuz he has fiery burning eyes and it terrfies the giants when they look at him so they covered his eyes
15:25 Loki might be misinterpreting the joyboy prophecy thinking that joyboy or the sun god would end the world but instead joyboy wanted to terraform the world for his friends
Hito Hito model Heimdall? Or the All All fruit?
It allows him to see everything across the realms like Heimdall and that’s his eyes are covered. Heimdall also controls the BiFrost aka a burning rainbow/sun bridge and Heimdall connects the gods to the mortal realm aka turning the world upside down, bringing the celestial dragons down to earth so to speak? Bringing down the red line..?
I have a feeling Usopp is gonna move the sword with God Usopp shenanigans. I mean Hajrudin was the one who lifted Usopp in the air when he was GOATed, so it would have tie ins.
The giants actually said it took all the warriors of Elbaph to defeat him not all the giants if they consider shanks to be a warrior of elbaph he definitely would have been involved in this fight meaning Loki is incredibly strong to stand against the giants and shanks at the same time also this could be the event that earned shanks his title as Yonko 6 years ago since the giants said it was rather recent and to them that would be like a month ago
@syvSpoilers this is off topic. Black beard or members of his crew will catch Vivi lacking on her way to Luffy and kidnap her in order to get into marijois. Bb already knows about Imu, and his goal is to get as close as possible to Imu to backstab him and take over.
No one is even mentioning how it's possible that Loki was just born this way. Perhaps he's misunderstood and can't control his powers that came with him being an accursed child. Yes, he killed his father for the rare DF, but in what context? Maybe hes got some weird split personality like Cabbage from Dressrosa. Maybe he did it in a blind rage and regrets it. Maybe he doesn't want to bring the end of the world... but he's been told his whole life that he's destined to do so. Maybe he let the other giants chain him up. Because you have to remember that Luffy geherally has a good sense of judgment when it comes to people and their alterier motives. Yes, Loki is a bad guy...... but is he really a bad guy?? (Wreck it Ralph ftw)
Edited for spelling errors, lol.
It makes more sense 4 Surtr to be the choice, especially with the giant sword too. But i think Luffy will take the sword in giant form to stop him..
Another funny thing about 1130 that is likely really not intentional is Hito-Hito San rei
Human Human Sun Ray ?
Its a hammer. The head of the hammer is clear in the panel looking down diagonally at loki and luffy.
“We sent the WORST sh over to Loki” 2:18
Honestly he really is the worst SH , I want to give him credit but he would be DEAD so many times over now without the squad and Oda has made that clear. Every SH has saved Luffy at least once.
This sword is prob the one nika is holding in the iconic photo in that arc in the sky. He’s prob gonna become a giant giant take the sword maybe shrink it and later give it to Zoro to use or he uses it himself this arc and its the key to kill imu
Not the ASyv responses lmao😂
“Loki killed his dad”
“Sabo killed King Cobra”
Doubt it.
Surtr is also chained and has the same horns as Loki.
Just a thought but maybe freeing Loki will be how fluffy will start the final conflict, causing massive destructive impact on the world and fulfil madam Sharley's prophecy indirectly
Elbaf/ph maybe like baphomet? Giant sword a supreme grade sword? Nightmare luffy used a sword.
Loki just gives me goat mans vibes, Satan is depicted with a goat head and is supposed to bring the end times. That sounds like a twisted version of the "sun god" since Luffy is supposed to bring the new dawn and goats have unmistakable eyes which could be why lokis are covered. There is so much more I want to say but I want to keep this comment shirt in hopes it gets picked
In case syv reads this the other things are road was wearing a skull parading around as the sun god maybe he couldn't get a goat skull for his cosplay and went for something similar, after all animals seem to be highly regarded.
Goats have other religious ties too the most obvious ones being the fact goats were used as sacrifices specifically their blood. Because it's importance and meaning so maybe this could link to lokis devil fruit since devil fruits change you're lineage factor which has been getting more and more important lately.
Sure this can all be wrong or a big stretch but I feel like there is some merit to this and I could be on the right track.
To the people who are probably going to say it wouldn't be a strong devil fruit if it's just a special goat, but Satan is a deceiver and a liar which is heavily stated through the Bible but he can also change forms, he was the snake in the garden of Eden, he took the form of one of gods angels after he had already fallen so he coukd trick Luffy into freeing him which would start a huge event. Maybe that could play into why the giants haven't just killed this dude. He is chained up why not kill him, maybe because that would be guess as killing a god or a son of God, their savior if you wanna link this back to Christianity. Which oda could use for the giants to side with Loki and go against Luffy following a fake light only for the real one to shine even brighter and lead all the ones in darkness back into the light, starting the new dawn.
Another thing that interest me is why do any of this? Why does he want to end the world, what started all this. We could say it was Lola for the memes but maybes it's his devil fruit, zosns have a will of their own that always match up with the host somehow and we also know awakened zosn users can be overtaken by their fruit like the jailer beast so maybe in the end Loki only does this because his devil fruit is what tempted him and less him down this destructive path, it was all caused by his selfish desires. The possible themes and narrative impact this could have is exciting to me there are so many ways ods can take this
It would be funny if Loki had the mythical fruit Balder/norse god of light, who died n was resurrected, and immune to all forms of harm except the mistletoe. Loki was said to be crucified or attempted to be killed like kaido?
I like the theory that his devil fruit will be a model of the giant god elbaf as said in little garden
I have a really big theory and some head canon here bear with me here. Wouldn’t it be interesting if Elbaf sort of tied into King Arthur lore? Obviously there’s this huge sword that we’ve all been seeing and I’m curious about that. This sword is stuck inside of Yggdrasil. What if Elbaf had been waiting all these years for the true “Sun God” to come and pull it out? To claim the actual throne and what we have been getting are just “fill in kings” until the true king has arrived. Perhaps that’s why we’ve been getting so many “fake sun gods” and they’ve been waiting on Luffy this entire time. Before anyone says that sounds crazy, let’s all remember Luffy is only bound by his imagination. He can become a giant in gear 5 so that can tie into the lore. On top of which Sun Gun Nika is visualized as having a sword in Who’s Who scene! Foreshadowing perhaps? Perhaps Luffy will pull out this sword and maybe him and Loki will have a duel because Loki feels as if he is entitled to the throne? Let me know what you guys think!
I think Rodo may have given us an hint a Loki's devil fruit with his elk skull mask, since he is pretending to be the sun god in his mini Elbaf.
Mythical Elk Elk fruit, model Wendigo.
The deer mask may be a reference to the old norse word _dýr_ which means "deer" but can refer to any wild animal. Like other giants, Road is likely named for the wrestler Animal of the duo The Road Warrors.
I feel like Loki will be resonsible for the final arc being really bizarre like Oda said it would be, devil fruit or not.
Maybe the sword was used by the first Nika and Nika mode they can make the sword shrink or grow using the ridiculousness of the sun God power maybe it’s a normal sword that when he grew into a giant and stabbed the ground to make a point to rally the Giantswhen he shrink back down a remaining giant sword
Helios. He has the ability to project the sun from his eyes. Which explains the eye covering
That’s Greek not Norse
What if that is Joy boy sword and Lucy uses his awakening on it to make it small and take it with him because Joy boy used to have a sword and a spear but he doesn’t have to it’s just a head canon
What if theres something in the heart of the tree that Loki would try to get by burning it? And this is what starts the "beginning of the end"
The Thousand Sunny is the ship of the Sun God. How fitting!
What if the sword is wielded by an ancient weapon itself. Like the ancient weapon is like a robot/gundam
Loki started his villain arc after Lola rejected him
Imagine a giant using armament haki,it would make garp look like a joke 😂
That giant sword could just be architecture and not an actual weapon
What if oda is doing something like the trails for Hercules. Last major arc we had the hydra this time we have loki as the lion with a impenetrable hide maybe that why he's tied to the tree?
I hate this idea where Loki got rejected bc of that he started to go on a rampage
What if the weapon IS the devil fruit? Maybe its thor's hammer and its a hammer that ate a devil fruit and gets passed down the elbaph monarchy line.
What if the devil fruit Loki stole was a weapon that consumed a devil fruit I feel like since Norse mythology has so many legendary magical weapons this could check out
Everyone forgetting Alvaro Pizzaro he got the island island fruit he can become elbaph and make a giant arm
Someone's gonna use that big ass sword to decimate the red line there's lore behind it
I think mf was heartbroken due to lola and went nuts, she might come back & reunite with him in some way. ngl I'm hyped for him
What if shanks went to the celestial dragons to talk to them about Loki, what if he needed enough seastone chain to hold him down because he was so dangerous
So who was the guy on the coast who said come you would think he was the big bad maybe pulling strings in the shadows
I mean the War God Elbaf has been mentioned a few times right? maybe thats the name of the fruit, hito hito no mi model war god elbaf, and its pretty much just based on surtyr?
With the power of imagination, Luffy can become a "drivable giant robot" and Zoro drive him to use the sword.
Luffy’s eating first… thinking 💭 last and asking questions never… he’s a Yonko now… say something 💥👊 🔜™️🏴☠️👑😈‼️ Blackbeard vs Shanks is about to go down… Oda draw that for us . Gotta give him props a lot of respect…
Maybe Loki's devil fruit allows him to weild ghat gigantic sword and will use it to destroy elbaph