Bunny, gley, hailey, viessa. Those are my most used by far... Probably sharen technically in hours might be used just as much but out of necessity not really out of enjoyment lol
Freyna, Viessa, Bunny, Yujin and Ajax. Ajax as tank for the latest boss. Built him now with 50000 plus shield. The last boss can’t kill him. Yujin: love being the medic. Bunny and Freyna for mobbing. Viessa with almost no cooldown cold snap is just pure fast and fun gameplay. Love Sharon as well but needs work for me. Hope she will be a mobber as well at some point.
As you mentioned, gley is definitely a swiss army knife character when built properly. Tier list imo should reflect the characters actual ability, not the ignorance of the player base in utilizing them.
This may sound like a small thing, but I love that you don't edit yourself and say "fuckin" all the time. Reminds me of how real people talk to each other.
Honestly it probably the most important thing for me when I make videos, I want it to seem like we are having a conversation over a few beers on something we love. It's not for everyone, but comments like these make it all worth it.
Big agree about Valby. She does everything very well, and sucks at nothing. Only things I'd change is let her jump and shoot a gun while liquified. That would honestly be too too OP though.
how is hailey in "got potential" when she is the best bosser in the game, what more potential is there to have lmao maybe he wants her to clear mobs like bunny but then the character would be broken and people would play nothing else. Gley in got potential is just ridiculous
Valby main here. Appreciate the love for her. I’m just a casual but I’ve got a fully built out supply moisture build…just need to upgrade my Enduring now… Edit: aw man I was about to hop on to get Jayber’s code lol. That’s all I need. Luckily I didn’t target farm him at all.
I play a balanced Valby build (survive and abilities use) using Supply Moisture with Enduring Legacy and kill everything and only go down when I'm being super arrogant lol I might look into a bossing build or something, but I can't be bothered and really already do well enough at everything I come across that I'll probably never bother.
@@igobytony I want the enduring for bossing. I was basically carried a bit through Obstructor, Frost and Molten. I did know what to do, but I was definitely not putting down DPS.
Same as you, I love the idea of Jayber. I have him fully cata'd on all slots. But he's only good at one thing : farming Advanced Neural Circuits on Shipment Base. Hoping he gets a giga buff like Freyna. He needs so much work because he's such a feature vacuum -- defenses for turret survivability, some damage, a lot of cooldown, a lot of duration, some area, some mod slots because one of his mods costs 9 at max level for some reason... all of that work, just so you could play Corridor Simulator because everyone's already moved forward because you could even setup your turrets -- which those turrets do mediocre damage and mediocre healing. I'm so sad for him. I hope they get rid of his stupid gun and just have Turret Engi as base kit.
I'm not 1200 hours in, but I do agree with your assessment for just about everything you said. Personally I enjoy playing Luna offensively even though she's tricky and weaker than the powerhouse descendants, I think at the end of the day you should just play who you like, at least for solo content.
Be good to see a gun tier list from you...or if you havent exhaustively used all guns then maybe a list of your most fav and least fav guns that you've used and built?
My swiss army knife is Lepic. Haven't unlocked Ult yet, but nearly fully catalyzed and with a few mod swaps can be used for mobs, dungeons and bosses. He is also my first, so I'm partial to him.
@@thorinhannahs4614 its a ton of fun to use, especially in combination with standard grenade, or other descendant skills. Im so invested in base Lepic Im avoiding the Ult grind until they implement a better transition.
Your segment on Jayber remonded me of the coms conversation between Jayber and Blair in one of the 2 dungeons (dont remember which one) where they make a new type of turret.
Agree on Jayber. Why can't this character have moving drones and actually do something fun with them. Even if he was able to focus on healing it would be something. Very underwhelming but looks like a great Descendant. Then you read his bio and it like pisses you off. He is supposed to be amazing
It is possible to get stealth rewards at outposts without Sharon, but its a bit fiddly. You only need to stealth deactivate ONE of those devices for a chance at the stealth reward drop.
This was a pretty good list tbh. I’m around 700 hours and my favorite character is Viessa but I’m playing a lot of Freyna lately after her buffs. I wish they would give Viessa some rework like Freyna
Yeah, like cold snap watch changes not 1 but all of her skills to damage first then leave snow on the ground for half a minute that cover a larger area.
@@alexlane9099 difficult to predict what they would do or if they would even do it but I would love to have her shatter effects spread freeze the way freynas poison spreads. Those high density mob kills are so satisfying. I just love the ice abilities and she’s my fav
God Queen Gley all the way. You know she can deal with all content and has many builds. You lost me when you said she’s boring 😑 efficiency…..now that’s boring
@@theFullMeasure there’s so many builds she has that the community doesn’t know of or refuses to acknowledge because of the meta NPCs. I prefer fun over efficiency. We are playing a game after all
@BasedBrave some people just enjoy efficiency and him saying gley is boring is his opinion, doesn't matter if she's good or not if she's boring to play
Move Luna down a line. Not worth building unless you have a set team. I agree almost 100 percent with your list. Lately I've been just doing Enzo and Yujin to do boss fights.
I have 100 hours in the game. I can solo 400% dungeons with my (base) Freyna, and it's very satisfying. Sharen is the one I had to make but I ended up really liking her a lot - her debuff ball is a lot of fun. The nice thing about the game is that you can reuse a strong weapon (Thunder Cage) with all the characters to get you through. The next challenge is the last 5 or so hard bosses - my hope was to do a cheap Hailey+Perforator build, and now I can solo the first 5 bosses. But the last 5 are still a problem, although that seems to be a social/knowledge issue (people seem even more confused by Molten Fortress' immune phase than they were with Hanged Man!) I still haven't killed Gluttony or Death Stalker yet. DS I'm dreading because it seems like he requires a non-HP build which I really don't want to farm. Oddly I stumbled into Ult Viessa while normal gaming but I just don't play her. Like you say, Blizzard is stationary and it doesn't feel satisfying. TBH I'll keep trying to progress through end game bosses with Hailey and try to group up with people who know how to shoot those stupid buttons on Fortress.
I value your opinion but Blair is super fun to play with back draft and skill extension. I can paint the field in fire and crit 100% with my Greg's. Keep up the awesome videos!
Blair is definitely better for mobbing than lepic by a good margin. Full range and damage mods my good ness lepic could never keep up with that, on top of infinite self sustain mp. Lepic has it when it comes to bossing but mobbing it’s not even close
I'd put Blair up a tier. You can either build to have 8 flame zones, killing all the mobs, or do 7 mil 100% crits on a very low cooldown. Also, he doesn't worry about MP. You can also make him a gun descendant. Not the best, but not gimmicky.
Love love love my valby. She does everything I need her to. I’m so over invested in all her builds. She’s on par with if not slightly worse than the best in slot descendants of each category. I firmly believe she’s the strongest all rounder in the game (she’s also non-attribute) which means you’re never at type disadvantage.
Bunnys broken asf and for me it has nothing to do with bunnys efficiency. I dont care what game your playing you shouldnt be able to click 1 button and for the next 30ish seconds everything you run past is dead instantly AT THE HIGHEST DIFFICULTY, thats bullshit and broken
@fammud1192 sweats don't play brain dead casuals do. That is the audience every game should cater to. If you are looking for challenges. If you are really that good, you create to challenge yourself, not tell the developers to do it for you. Let casuals have their fun, brain dead, or not.
@@alexlane9099 Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, there's something in-between "sweating" and pressing one button that just automatically removes all enemies from the game? There is such a thing as "gameplay" in games, it's usually considered rather important. The very most important thing, in fact. Not even a slight tiny little trace of it here.
@@fammud1192 The First Descendant is a game that is played therefore it has gameplay. Whether the play is good or bad it's still gameplay. Bunnies running around kill lesser mobs is not broken, Its just something she excels in. Hard or easy, or even brain dead doesn't make it broken bunny design is not broken. Closest thing to broken was Kyle that's it. Most of the descendants under perform. Paramount is fun where ever that is found in the game the fun is paramount. Yes there are other factors. Right now the devs need to find a way to stop the player count from falling further. A lot of buffing is needed and it was needed yesterday. When the casuals or scrubs, noobs, etc is gone the game shutdown. I have no business telling someone to git gud and play at my level. Never going to happen. I got maybe 100 hrs in and beaten all the content I still play to help others. If having bunnies run around with hiked skirts get player numbers back then so be it. The game is made for the masses. Right now the devs needs to create more player engagement and rid a lot of RNG. Here's what I mean mechanics like staying invincible is not good that mechanic alone takes the player out of engagement rather there is a way to defeat the mechanic or not. Timer scam takes the player out of engagement can't defeat time. Everything 1 shots you takes the player out of engagement. RNG is fine if it's true RNG. There's a progression but most of it is RNG this not good meaning you can play for 1000 hrs and not go anywhere. This is the highway to burnout, which takes the player out of engagement. RNG should be working like this: you don't said item whatever you didnt get the % should be increasing. But it doesn't it stays at whatever % it was. RNG is ok but you can't it where everything in the game has a low chance of dropping. Which what is going on right now. Somethings yes but not everything. When a player is able to earn rather than roll dice or pull the slots all day. Player will actually have that accomplishment they've been chasing and improve player engagement. So if easy gameplay is what bring the boys to the yard. Then that's the direction they should go.
With 700hrs + in the game MR27 and all weapons full unique ability up to frost walker. I almost totally agree with your tier list except of Hailey that I would put one tier higher. The reason being she doesn't hit the dps wall of lepic as well she's not glass cannon even up to death stalker. I haven't tried her new mods at all. But I think her mobbing cn be fix with a buff patch very easily because from clips I saw the kit is good just needs more dmg. I even use her as slight mobbing she's my favorite for invasions cause I can build around the boss weaknesses and she's tanky. And honestly by popping on and off her gun crit skill and thundercage for invasion mob density is completely fine doesn't really miss much time behind a bunny or freyna in that instance. And the most important I have a blast playing every day with her. But of course that's my opinion. I just think even by the standards you explain at the start of the video and after mentioning the lepics wall which she absolutely don't have she cannot be the same tier as lepic and the reason I even don't match your opinion on the middle of those tiers is because I have so much fun playing with her. I may have spent over 30 catalysts on her 3 reactors and 2 diff component sets but I don't regret it. Plus her moomoos she kinda hits all the spots like freyna and I think a simple buff on the new mods can make her mobbing as fun as freyna.
My gley is almost there…. Took her on a few test runs, and it was hit and miss…. Still gotta boost her health a little more, and I’m still adjusting to the rotation.
as for current update let us say that less investment with bigger impact will be Gley/Valby/Ajax, these 3 can do mobbing and bossing, sure not as efficient as bunny/freyna on mobbing but still get the job done. For bossing these are my always top to go to. Edited:These were for those new players who doesnt wanna grind all descendant and too lazy for it.
Ajax, Ajax, Ajax and Ajax. If I can't have that, I'll take a Hailey since her kit is centered around hitting weakpoints which as an Ajax grappler, I appreciate.
I main lepic and freyna and picked up Hailey after she dropped, she feels like a better version of lepic and haven't played him given her dps. And I would say freyna is a better at mobbing then bunny now. I'm loading into invasion duegons and seeing frenya poison kill them before bunny can kill them with her aoe aura.
(Lengthy comment) My top 5 and most leveled up decendents are viessa,freyna,sharen,enzo, Blair, only because I unlocked them that way. It was viessa who got me too molten fortress and Enzo who beat molten fortress. And gluttony I beat it with ult valby. And deathsalker well ult freyna with the others being yujin,ult ajax,bunny. We were about to lose the fight i got my 4th ability back and Ajax put his shield up yujin a heal and dam we won also bunny took care of the flying skulls. Like we auto knew what we had to do the moment my 4th ability and its sound effect started Ajax zipped towards me and shield up and yujin healed with his ability,bunny ran towards us for the skull things it was amazing. We all talked in chat saying it was our 1st win against deathstalker. Anyways Now my top 5 are viessa,ult freyna,enzo,hailey,hopefully esiemo just need a catalyst part to unlock him but the entire month no luck.
Just waiting for ultimate Kyle to actually invest in him I really want to try him w a full build but I just can’t bring myself to fully catalyze a base descendant other than Enzo cause I needed a decendants built. That said I think Kyle needs to be in almost great he has incredible survivability in these big boss fights and can dish out just as much damage as a lot of the other bossers all they need to do is make a transcendent that allows him to mob he’d be perfect
Just waiting for ultimate Kyle to actually invest in him I really want to try him w a full build but I just can’t bring myself to fully catalyze a base descendant other than Enzo cause I needed a decendants built.
ah damn, i just fully catalyzed my sharen cause I heard that she wasnt getting an ultimate soon cause she's not that popular because she doesn't show much skin.
My personal favorites are Freyna (before the buff she sucked but even then she was my favorite) Bunny, Valby, Viessa, Hailey. I cant stand Gley I agree with you shes boring, I only play with characters that I like snd I enjoy, thats why I used to play with Freyna even though she sucked, now everyone is using her. Gley might be good but not for me.
The motion sickness from how the camera "zooms" using her 2 is one of two reasons I dislike playing Bunny. The other is the fact that you must always continue to move, and with the small deformation in my left hand, it just hurts a lot. Descendants like Hailey, Gley and Freyna help a lot seeing as I can take pauses in moving and kill stuff.
Honestly, sounds like you haven't put enough hours into Jayber, i have zero issues clearing any content with him and his turrets do more dps than combustion. I have both characters maxed, his does a smaller number but ticks faster, way faster, but you can use shot focus to also do more dps with your weapon on top of the turret damage. Lepics mobbing is insane dude, less than 2 sec cooldown on grenades and you pull them all and boom. I feel like you have your favorites and thats fine but youre ranking as if each character needs to be god tier over powered.
I can't talk about all Descendants, i have just 6 of them, but so far i may say Bunny and Freyna are the two most funny and effective to play, got Enzo and to me he is useful just to open the safeboxes, in solo game he have no chances, Blair as well, good to make contents which requie fire element but just that, on battlefield (missions and dungeon) is not so much effective. Viessa was the character i choose at the start and i love her but honestly her skills are limited, apart the Frost Road (2nd skill which is a bet, enemieas have to walk on your path) and the ultimate one (if you have the glacial cloud) other two are almost a sort of 1 vs 1. So well yes my main chars atm are Bunny and Freyna, both ultimate, and so far i don't think i will change.
@@fartdonkey8290pretty straightforward use his 1 and 2 for magnetic force and his 3 for survivability and shield regen and his 4 for damage. 3 also can clear adds fairly efficiently along with 4 depending on what transcendent mods your using. He is great when paired with secret garden.
I’m sorry but this might be a giga hot take but I’m just gonna say it valby should be in at most almost great if not got potential She’s S tier in fun factor but her biggest strength imo is her mobbing which is severely outclassed by bunny and freyna Her bossing is good but again she’s outclassed by Enzo and gley for weapon buffing so it’s like she’s a jack of all trades but master of none which hurts considering she’s so fun.
Dude, I do hope Sharen is the next ultimate. I've been wanting to fully catalyze her, but waiting on news of next ultimate before I do. Want to experiment with the debuff Sharen build (battlesuit melting rounds with naziestra's devotion). Also, the fact that I want to make he a bit more tankier for tackling outposts. One thing I hope that comes with ultimate Sharen is hopefully, a transcendent mod that makes her Q (ability 1; slash) completely bypass shield mechanics (shield, orbs, mana shields, etc) to DIRECTLY attack HP, so that she can just one-shot outpost bosses without worrying about a 2nd phase mechanic...but that's probably not going to happen.
I really think she may be next since the devs have been steering updates to everything but her. It would make sense that they've been neglecting her lately if she's about to get her ultimate and maybe some improvements.
I invested time AND MONEY!!! in Lepic and seeing his shine go away because of the last 4 or 5 bosses really makes me sad. :( I know these games make so that each character gets their attention at some time and then keep rotating to others, but what happened to Lepic was almost criminal. I never care about ''one shot'' the bosses, but my God the state he is now is depressing. Lepic and Bunny were my two mains, and now I just play as Freyna. She does both of their jobs, against mobs and bosses.
@@theFullMeasureLEpic is still A tier. You made the argument that if his mobbing were better he’d be up there with the valbys bunnys and freynas. He’s way better at mobbing than Sharon. He should be same tier at least. Sharon is doing 20-30 mil damage with her debuff build. LEpic is still doing high damage with his power unit trans mod. And his traction grenade will suck up an entire room. He’s A tier gun damage, S tier burst, and a tier aoe mob clear
@@ncomgeek Sharen's got the entire outpost side of her which allows for a whole different approach to patterns, which means she's worth more as a whole.
I'm a new player of TFD and the brainrot is real, having similar passages of time vanish before my eyes as I wake from hours of playing...just like Warframe when I played that a few years ago now nd sunk about 700 hrs into. I like your tier list categories more than anyone elses but its still missing something that it feels like you're trying to reach the words for when you're describing Ajax being good but maybe he is on 'Got potential' as he only supoorts a lot....my take is that all thecreators I've watched always talk of support/buffing others as not being all that becuz of rando parties....so why not have a category of "fixed party god"? Surely a team of friends are going to know to utilise their friends support buffs...it massively boosts the potential not only of the Descendant but also the downright DPS of the team. Its a massive hole that people maybe brush over but never categorise. If you're an Ajax wandering the public rando group highway, your potential is lower as others might not care to utlise your support.
Luna with friends soo op glutony and all boss in 7s easy and the last boss more and Blair i make all farm and solo boss with gun build or ult for me blair got a lot of potential
If you lean into the damage mods for Enzo's 4 it is surprising strong and has better than what you'd think mobbing but yeah, don't get me wrong, it's no Bunny or Freyna.
I understand your justification for where you placed each descendant (except Gley but whatever it's "your" tierlist) and definitely agree with the first tier those 3 descendants can basically do everything either really well or are the best at it. However if you ever do another one you should probably work on the classifications or make multiple lists.
Freyna > Bunny > Gley in current state of the game, never liked Haley but I acknowledge that she is an S tier bosser, maybe I'll build her up properly once she gets the prime variant. over 700hrs actively farming ferrari's crit mod but no dice so I just use him for cracking the vaults. Sharen only for outposts. The rest of the characters are just there as a filler. Personally I have invested a lot into frost girl and Valby but I don't play them anymore.
1200 hours in active game (i mean no afk gameplay like BDO), with pretty much no endgame, just running same missions all the time, over 3 months ? all due respect mate, i think you need help
Played a defense for leveling and picked the right secluded room was there for a minute A dude with a Mayberry’s walked in and started dropping his skills , completely tone deaf I was there . let’s just say it was like the 2 time I lost defense. For some dumb reason that player lives rent free in my head and I refuse to build jayber
Lost me with the random Gley slander. My queen is the most diverse descendant in the game and she’s literally the jack of all trades. Like your tier list went from your solo perspective, then you got to Gley and all of a sudden you consider how everyone else plays. Like every descendant has people who play them like trash.🤡
Lepics piss me off he can’t reach over 60% crit and I’m telling your rn there won’t ever be bosses with low skill crit resistance ever again your y’all are just going be feeding enraged gauge for no real damage pay off. It would be really cool if Sharen is actually the next decent that she comes w a battle suit melting nuts type mod but instead of shredding def and elec resist is shred crit resist And boss atk or sum idk.
This video is quite accurate of where the Descendants stand. I pity those who got stuck with certain characters and don’t have the time to grind all other characters, so they play in a bubble and don’t have the chance to compare and contrast.
For me #1 is Ult.Gley - can carry any colossus & dungeons. _"void mania"_ Then Ult.Bunny - fastest farm & lvl up in 400% dungeons. _"dungeon master"_ *non-crit builds made them even better. -simping- Working on Ult.Freyna, that big 🍑 ughmm....need to test her personaly!
I would say not worth researching is misleading because u should research every descendent and level them up to 40 for mastery rank then just simply dismiss them
if viessa had a crit chance buff when she does the finger snap whirlwind like haileys version she would be s-teir. drop whirlwind on dungeon boss, flop out enduring legacy. game over.
Yeah... I realize this is your opinion, and that's fine, but the placement of some of these Descendants is fucking laughable. Especially Gley. Boring? LMAO. "Got potential". You straight lost me with that one placement alone. This tier list is... a list. That's for sure. I do agree that a lot of Gley players can be trash. That's a skill issue, not a character issue. She can do everything. And that includes Deathstalker despite people believing taking her into that fight is throwing. Again, player/skill issue. Not character.
Stopped watching when he put Blair as a gimmick. Wow. No doubt the rest of the vid was laughable 😂 Added to a huge list of youtubers I've unsubd from in the last cpl months. Only 3 ppl left I bother watching, hopefully they don't turn bipolar like this guy 😂
Couldnt care about your tier list this game as a whole is just really bad and poorly made from its predecessor warframe deleted this game 3 weeks in and its not gotten any bit better
Who's in your Descendant A-Team?
My Top 5 Freyna, Bunny, Valby, Hailey, Viessa.
Bunny, gley, hailey, viessa.
Those are my most used by far... Probably sharen technically in hours might be used just as much but out of necessity not really out of enjoyment lol
Freyna, Viessa, Bunny, Yujin and Ajax. Ajax as tank for the latest boss. Built him now with 50000 plus shield. The last boss can’t kill him.
Yujin: love being the medic. Bunny and Freyna for mobbing.
Viessa with almost no cooldown cold snap is just pure fast and fun gameplay.
Love Sharon as well but needs work for me. Hope she will be a mobber as well at some point.
Enzo, ult freyna, I’ve just built an ult Ajax I plan on putting him in the main rotation for when I’m feeling lazy
None because this game is trash
As you mentioned, gley is definitely a swiss army knife character when built properly. Tier list imo should reflect the characters actual ability, not the ignorance of the player base in utilizing them.
My main was Bunny, Valby & now Freyna. Farming w/ Frey & Sharen is my passtime now
This may sound like a small thing, but I love that you don't edit yourself and say "fuckin" all the time. Reminds me of how real people talk to each other.
Honestly it probably the most important thing for me when I make videos, I want it to seem like we are having a conversation over a few beers on something we love. It's not for everyone, but comments like these make it all worth it.
Gley, Hailey and Yujin in B, Valby in S, Sharen in A, this is certainly quite the tierlist.
Yeah he is clearly biased, Sharen is my favorite descendent Also but in no way is she over gley, gley is far more versatile than her.
Sharen is wayyyyyyy too high, for starters
Big agree about Valby. She does everything very well, and sucks at nothing. Only things I'd change is let her jump and shoot a gun while liquified. That would honestly be too too OP though.
how is hailey in "got potential" when she is the best bosser in the game, what more potential is there to have lmao maybe he wants her to clear mobs like bunny but then the character would be broken and people would play nothing else. Gley in got potential is just ridiculous
@@igobytony valby does everything well but nothing the best
Valby main here. Appreciate the love for her. I’m just a casual but I’ve got a fully built out supply moisture build…just need to upgrade my Enduring now… Edit: aw man I was about to hop on to get Jayber’s code lol. That’s all I need. Luckily I didn’t target farm him at all.
Love Valby!
I play a balanced Valby build (survive and abilities use) using Supply Moisture with Enduring Legacy and kill everything and only go down when I'm being super arrogant lol
I might look into a bossing build or something, but I can't be bothered and really already do well enough at everything I come across that I'll probably never bother.
@@igobytony I want the enduring for bossing. I was basically carried a bit through Obstructor, Frost and Molten. I did know what to do, but I was definitely not putting down DPS.
Sharen can do anything and everything! Most fun Descendantsl to play when it comes to raw skill!
She is alot of fun, Ultimate will be great
Same as you, I love the idea of Jayber. I have him fully cata'd on all slots. But he's only good at one thing : farming Advanced Neural Circuits on Shipment Base.
Hoping he gets a giga buff like Freyna. He needs so much work because he's such a feature vacuum -- defenses for turret survivability, some damage, a lot of cooldown, a lot of duration, some area, some mod slots because one of his mods costs 9 at max level for some reason... all of that work, just so you could play Corridor Simulator because everyone's already moved forward because you could even setup your turrets -- which those turrets do mediocre damage and mediocre healing. I'm so sad for him. I hope they get rid of his stupid gun and just have Turret Engi as base kit.
His gun should just be replaced by a place all or teleport your turrets to you button.
love one of these in depth dives every season! -ty & agreed from top to bottom! 🔥💯
I'm not 1200 hours in, but I do agree with your assessment for just about everything you said. Personally I enjoy playing Luna offensively even though she's tricky and weaker than the powerhouse descendants, I think at the end of the day you should just play who you like, at least for solo content.
Couldn't agree more
Freyna is the only one to make my frame rate drop to almost unplayable with all the poison explosions
Be good to see a gun tier list from you...or if you havent exhaustively used all guns then maybe a list of your most fav and least fav guns that you've used and built?
Working on it :D
38:51 😂😂...this was pure TFD comedy gold!
My swiss army knife is Lepic. Haven't unlocked Ult yet, but nearly fully catalyzed and with a few mod swaps can be used for mobs, dungeons and bosses. He is also my first, so I'm partial to him.
I hear that
@michaelfeiertag3861 I am struggling to get base Lepic while I was able to farm Ult Lepic. I like his tractor beam nade a lot.
@@thorinhannahs4614 its a ton of fun to use, especially in combination with standard grenade, or other descendant skills. Im so invested in base Lepic Im avoiding the Ult grind until they implement a better transition.
@michaelfeiertag3861 Agreed. I am the opposite. I won't invest in base and treat them as MR fodder.
My main used to be ult Lepic, but these last bosses on hard dificulty make him look like a baby.
Your segment on Jayber remonded me of the coms conversation between Jayber and Blair in one of the 2 dungeons (dont remember which one) where they make a new type of turret.
cheers man good list good thoughts
Much appreciated!
how many more ideas of descendants do you like? i lost count at 50
:) Love you and your content my dude. keep up the grind
Hahahahha :D
Agree on Jayber. Why can't this character have moving drones and actually do something fun with them. Even if he was able to focus on healing it would be something. Very underwhelming but looks like a great Descendant. Then you read his bio and it like pisses you off. He is supposed to be amazing
He is right!
It is possible to get stealth rewards at outposts without Sharon, but its a bit fiddly.
You only need to stealth deactivate ONE of those devices for a chance at the stealth reward drop.
This was a pretty good list tbh. I’m around 700 hours and my favorite character is Viessa but I’m playing a lot of Freyna lately after her buffs. I wish they would give Viessa some rework like Freyna
Yeah, like cold snap watch changes not 1 but all of her skills to damage first then leave snow on the ground for half a minute that cover a larger area.
@@alexlane9099 difficult to predict what they would do or if they would even do it but I would love to have her shatter effects spread freeze the way freynas poison spreads. Those high density mob kills are so satisfying. I just love the ice abilities and she’s my fav
You forgot to add that Freyna is the only descendant that can additionally kill your framerate. 🤣
Hahaha true
Just an FYI on Yujin. He can heal shields too.
We have been doing bionic bunny face tanking DS and pocket yujin just regen shields easy mode
Yujin regents friends shields?
@beasthaven1571 yep
Yujin got potential, this tier list is... Something, he cleans 400% and have always PS active, he can do a looot of weapon dmg 😅
God Queen Gley all the way. You know she can deal with all content and has many builds. You lost me when you said she’s boring 😑 efficiency…..now that’s boring
Efficiency is my bae
@@theFullMeasure there’s so many builds she has that the community doesn’t know of or refuses to acknowledge because of the meta NPCs. I prefer fun over efficiency. We are playing a game after all
@BasedBrave some people just enjoy efficiency and him saying gley is boring is his opinion, doesn't matter if she's good or not if she's boring to play
@@BasedBrave yea , keep playing your game and dont bring her to deathstalker.
He's nuts
Move Luna down a line. Not worth building unless you have a set team. I agree almost 100 percent with your list. Lately I've been just doing Enzo and Yujin to do boss fights.
I have 100 hours in the game. I can solo 400% dungeons with my (base) Freyna, and it's very satisfying. Sharen is the one I had to make but I ended up really liking her a lot - her debuff ball is a lot of fun. The nice thing about the game is that you can reuse a strong weapon (Thunder Cage) with all the characters to get you through. The next challenge is the last 5 or so hard bosses - my hope was to do a cheap Hailey+Perforator build, and now I can solo the first 5 bosses. But the last 5 are still a problem, although that seems to be a social/knowledge issue (people seem even more confused by Molten Fortress' immune phase than they were with Hanged Man!) I still haven't killed Gluttony or Death Stalker yet. DS I'm dreading because it seems like he requires a non-HP build which I really don't want to farm. Oddly I stumbled into Ult Viessa while normal gaming but I just don't play her. Like you say, Blizzard is stationary and it doesn't feel satisfying. TBH I'll keep trying to progress through end game bosses with Hailey and try to group up with people who know how to shoot those stupid buttons on Fortress.
I value your opinion but Blair is super fun to play with back draft and skill extension. I can paint the field in fire and crit 100% with my Greg's. Keep up the awesome videos!
Fair enough, in the end it's about what you enjoy, ur playing the game afterall.
Blair is definitely better for mobbing than lepic by a good margin. Full range and damage mods my good ness lepic could never keep up with that, on top of infinite self sustain mp. Lepic has it when it comes to bossing but mobbing it’s not even close
Subbed just for the colorful language 😎💪🏻🤘🏻
my man :D
Most the time i use Enzo for everything idk he's always been my favorite from the start
Enzo is a G
Enzo is best aryan boi
I'd put Blair up a tier. You can either build to have 8 flame zones, killing all the mobs, or do 7 mil 100% crits on a very low cooldown. Also, he doesn't worry about MP. You can also make him a gun descendant. Not the best, but not gimmicky.
Love love love my valby. She does everything I need her to. I’m so over invested in all her builds. She’s on par with if not slightly worse than the best in slot descendants of each category. I firmly believe she’s the strongest all rounder in the game (she’s also non-attribute) which means you’re never at type disadvantage.
Bunnys broken asf and for me it has nothing to do with bunnys efficiency. I dont care what game your playing you shouldnt be able to click 1 button and for the next 30ish seconds everything you run past is dead instantly AT THE HIGHEST DIFFICULTY, thats bullshit and broken
Don't play online games. That's called general audience.
Nothing should ever be made for sweats. Too small of a minority.
@@alexlane9099 All enemies don't die before they can even spawn = for sweats. Okay. Sure.
Does sweats mean not completely brain dead? I didn't know.
@fammud1192 sweats don't play brain dead casuals do. That is the audience every game should cater to. If you are looking for challenges. If you are really that good, you create to challenge yourself, not tell the developers to do it for you. Let casuals have their fun, brain dead, or not.
@@alexlane9099 Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, there's something in-between "sweating" and pressing one button that just automatically removes all enemies from the game?
There is such a thing as "gameplay" in games, it's usually considered rather important. The very most important thing, in fact. Not even a slight tiny little trace of it here.
@@fammud1192 The First Descendant is a game that is played therefore it has gameplay. Whether the play is good or bad it's still gameplay. Bunnies running around kill lesser mobs is not broken, Its just something she excels in. Hard or easy, or even brain dead doesn't make it broken bunny design is not broken. Closest thing to broken was Kyle that's it. Most of the descendants under perform. Paramount is fun where ever that is found in the game the fun is paramount. Yes there are other factors. Right now the devs need to find a way to stop the player count from falling further. A lot of buffing is needed and it was needed yesterday. When the casuals or scrubs, noobs, etc is gone the game shutdown.
I have no business telling someone to git gud and play at my level. Never going to happen. I got maybe 100 hrs in and beaten all the content I still play to help others. If having bunnies run around with hiked skirts get player numbers back then so be it. The game is made for the masses. Right now the devs needs to create more player engagement and rid a lot of RNG. Here's what I mean mechanics like staying invincible is not good that mechanic alone takes the player out of engagement rather there is a way to defeat the mechanic or not. Timer scam takes the player out of engagement can't defeat time. Everything 1 shots you takes the player out of engagement. RNG is fine if it's true RNG. There's a progression but most of it is RNG this not good meaning you can play for 1000 hrs and not go anywhere. This is the highway to burnout, which takes the player out of engagement. RNG should be working like this: you don't said item whatever you didnt get the % should be increasing. But it doesn't it stays at whatever % it was. RNG is ok but you can't it where everything in the game has a low chance of dropping. Which what is going on right now. Somethings yes but not everything. When a player is able to earn rather than roll dice or pull the slots all day. Player will actually have that accomplishment they've been chasing and improve player engagement.
So if easy gameplay is what bring the boys to the yard. Then that's the direction they should go.
I love Esiemo, very fun and funny to play. Very charming character. Hopefully they will do ultimate version!
His character trailers have been funny
You're sleeping on Esiemo. He's A-tier in current state- the rework made him a LOT better.
No doubt, seen some good clips but just doesn't click for me
Yep, clearing 400% easy, clearing bosses easy, and explosive propaganda for shits and giggles. Definitely A tier
Next time you pop on Esiemo check out the range on his 1, was in the desert testing and it’s just silly
With 700hrs + in the game MR27 and all weapons full unique ability up to frost walker. I almost totally agree with your tier list except of Hailey that I would put one tier higher. The reason being she doesn't hit the dps wall of lepic as well she's not glass cannon even up to death stalker. I haven't tried her new mods at all. But I think her mobbing cn be fix with a buff patch very easily because from clips I saw the kit is good just needs more dmg. I even use her as slight mobbing she's my favorite for invasions cause I can build around the boss weaknesses and she's tanky. And honestly by popping on and off her gun crit skill and thundercage for invasion mob density is completely fine doesn't really miss much time behind a bunny or freyna in that instance. And the most important I have a blast playing every day with her. But of course that's my opinion. I just think even by the standards you explain at the start of the video and after mentioning the lepics wall which she absolutely don't have she cannot be the same tier as lepic and the reason I even don't match your opinion on the middle of those tiers is because I have so much fun playing with her. I may have spent over 30 catalysts on her 3 reactors and 2 diff component sets but I don't regret it. Plus her moomoos she kinda hits all the spots like freyna and I think a simple buff on the new mods can make her mobbing as fun as freyna.
Jayber isn’t bad, He just takes more skill and timing. I wrecked lobbies and bosses with him.
Bunny: Really useful for solo play. Boring as hell, an effing RUINS the fun in a group.
My gley is almost there…. Took her on a few test runs, and it was hit and miss…. Still gotta boost her health a little more, and I’m still adjusting to the rotation.
as for current update let us say that less investment with bigger impact will be Gley/Valby/Ajax, these 3 can do mobbing and bossing, sure not as efficient as bunny/freyna on mobbing but still get the job done. For bossing these are my always top to go to.
Edited:These were for those new players who doesnt wanna grind all descendant and too lazy for it.
Ajax, Ajax, Ajax and Ajax. If I can't have that, I'll take a Hailey since her kit is centered around hitting weakpoints which as an Ajax grappler, I appreciate.
I love it
I main lepic and freyna and picked up Hailey after she dropped, she feels like a better version of lepic and haven't played him given her dps. And I would say freyna is a better at mobbing then bunny now. I'm loading into invasion duegons and seeing frenya poison kill them before bunny can kill them with her aoe aura.
(Lengthy comment) My top 5 and most leveled up decendents are viessa,freyna,sharen,enzo,
Blair, only because I unlocked them that way. It was viessa who got me too molten fortress and Enzo who beat molten fortress. And gluttony I beat it with ult valby. And deathsalker well ult freyna with the others being yujin,ult ajax,bunny. We were about to lose the fight i got my 4th ability back and Ajax put his shield up yujin a heal and dam we won also bunny took care of the flying skulls. Like we auto knew what we had to do the moment my 4th ability and its sound effect started Ajax zipped towards me and shield up and yujin healed with his ability,bunny ran towards us for the skull things it was amazing. We all talked in chat saying it was our 1st win against deathstalker. Anyways Now my top 5 are viessa,ult freyna,enzo,hailey,hopefully esiemo just need a catalyst part to unlock him but the entire month no luck.
Just waiting for ultimate Kyle to actually invest in him I really want to try him w a full build but I just can’t bring myself to fully catalyze a base descendant other than Enzo cause I needed a decendants built.
That said I think Kyle needs to be in almost great he has incredible survivability in these big boss fights and can dish out just as much damage as a lot of the other bossers all they need to do is make a transcendent that allows him to mob he’d be perfect
Luna is the definition of a gimmicky character
Just waiting for ultimate Kyle to actually invest in him I really want to try him w a full build but I just can’t bring myself to fully catalyze a base descendant other than Enzo cause I needed a decendants built.
ah damn, i just fully catalyzed my sharen cause I heard that she wasnt getting an ultimate soon cause she's not that popular because she doesn't show much skin.
Bro she can't show skin she's pretty much a head stuck onto a robot body
Valby is the ultimate Swiss army knife, in my extremely biased opinion lol
My personal favorites are Freyna (before the buff she sucked but even then she was my favorite) Bunny, Valby, Viessa, Hailey.
I cant stand Gley I agree with you shes boring, I only play with characters that I like snd I enjoy, thats why I used to play with Freyna even though she sucked, now everyone is using her. Gley might be good but not for me.
Stuff needs to spawn faster if it’s during fast imo. Also I can’t play bunny due to motion sickness lol
The motion sickness from how the camera "zooms" using her 2 is one of two reasons I dislike playing Bunny. The other is the fact that you must always continue to move, and with the small deformation in my left hand, it just hurts a lot. Descendants like Hailey, Gley and Freyna help a lot seeing as I can take pauses in moving and kill stuff.
Honestly, sounds like you haven't put enough hours into Jayber, i have zero issues clearing any content with him and his turrets do more dps than combustion. I have both characters maxed, his does a smaller number but ticks faster, way faster, but you can use shot focus to also do more dps with your weapon on top of the turret damage. Lepics mobbing is insane dude, less than 2 sec cooldown on grenades and you pull them all and boom. I feel like you have your favorites and thats fine but youre ranking as if each character needs to be god tier over powered.
I am fairly on level with your choices other than Kyle is less than Ajax in my opinion it’s a switched
I can't talk about all Descendants, i have just 6 of them, but so far i may say Bunny and Freyna are the two most funny and effective to play, got Enzo and to me he is useful just to open the safeboxes, in solo game he have no chances, Blair as well, good to make contents which requie fire element but just that, on battlefield (missions and dungeon) is not so much effective. Viessa was the character i choose at the start and i love her but honestly her skills are limited, apart the Frost Road (2nd skill which is a bet, enemieas have to walk on your path) and the ultimate one (if you have the glacial cloud) other two are almost a sort of 1 vs 1. So well yes my main chars atm are Bunny and Freyna, both ultimate, and so far i don't think i will change.
Kyle was so weird to play i deleted him.
hahahaha based!
Yea I can't figure him out either
@@fartdonkey8290pretty straightforward use his 1 and 2 for magnetic force and his 3 for survivability and shield regen and his 4 for damage. 3 also can clear adds fairly efficiently along with 4 depending on what transcendent mods your using. He is great when paired with secret garden.
I’m sorry but this might be a giga hot take but I’m just gonna say it valby should be in at most almost great if not got potential
She’s S tier in fun factor but her biggest strength imo is her mobbing which is severely outclassed by bunny and freyna
Her bossing is good but again she’s outclassed by Enzo and gley for weapon buffing so it’s like she’s a jack of all trades but master of none which hurts considering she’s so fun.
Dude, I do hope Sharen is the next ultimate.
I've been wanting to fully catalyze her, but waiting on news of next ultimate before I do. Want to experiment with the debuff Sharen build (battlesuit melting rounds with naziestra's devotion). Also, the fact that I want to make he a bit more tankier for tackling outposts.
One thing I hope that comes with ultimate Sharen is hopefully, a transcendent mod that makes her Q (ability 1; slash) completely bypass shield mechanics (shield, orbs, mana shields, etc) to DIRECTLY attack HP, so that she can just one-shot outpost bosses without worrying about a 2nd phase mechanic...but that's probably not going to happen.
Judging from the Freyna story it seems she's next
I really think she may be next since the devs have been steering updates to everything but her. It would make sense that they've been neglecting her lately if she's about to get her ultimate and maybe some improvements.
I invested time AND MONEY!!! in Lepic and seeing his shine go away because of the last 4 or 5 bosses really makes me sad. :( I know these games make so that each character gets their attention at some time and then keep rotating to others, but what happened to Lepic was almost criminal. I never care about ''one shot'' the bosses, but my God the state he is now is depressing. Lepic and Bunny were my two mains, and now I just play as Freyna. She does both of their jobs, against mobs and bosses.
I too love Lepic
@@theFullMeasureLEpic is still A tier. You made the argument that if his mobbing were better he’d be up there with the valbys bunnys and freynas. He’s way better at mobbing than Sharon. He should be same tier at least. Sharon is doing 20-30 mil damage with her debuff build. LEpic is still doing high damage with his power unit trans mod. And his traction grenade will suck up an entire room. He’s A tier gun damage, S tier burst, and a tier aoe mob clear
@@ncomgeek Sharen's got the entire outpost side of her which allows for a whole different approach to patterns, which means she's worth more as a whole.
Well this is his opinion we don’t all have to all agree. Which I don’t, and that’s fine
You have clearly never used Blair 💀
High voltage bunny is terrible fyi
I'm a new player of TFD and the brainrot is real, having similar passages of time vanish before my eyes as I wake from hours of playing...just like Warframe when I played that a few years ago now nd sunk about 700 hrs into. I like your tier list categories more than anyone elses but its still missing something that it feels like you're trying to reach the words for when you're describing Ajax being good but maybe he is on 'Got potential' as he only supoorts a lot....my take is that all thecreators I've watched always talk of support/buffing others as not being all that becuz of rando parties....so why not have a category of "fixed party god"? Surely a team of friends are going to know to utilise their friends support buffs...it massively boosts the potential not only of the Descendant but also the downright DPS of the team. Its a massive hole that people maybe brush over but never categorise. If you're an Ajax wandering the public rando group highway, your potential is lower as others might not care to utlise your support.
Luna with friends soo op glutony and all boss in 7s easy and the last boss more and Blair i make all farm and solo boss with gun build or ult for me blair got a lot of potential
I use ult gley, ult bunny, ult freyna, ult ajax, hailey, ult lepic but they are all built differently
got all 16 but hvnt built viessa and rest yet
If you lean into the damage mods for Enzo's 4 it is surprising strong and has better than what you'd think mobbing but yeah, don't get me wrong, it's no Bunny or Freyna.
True true, it does however require far too many mods to juice up, thereby leaving holes in ur build elsewhere
If theirs any descendent thats boring to play its bunny. If i wanted to play running simulator id go outside and run
I understand your justification for where you placed each descendant (except Gley but whatever it's "your" tierlist) and definitely agree with the first tier those 3 descendants can basically do everything either really well or are the best at it.
However if you ever do another one you should probably work on the classifications or make multiple lists.
So far I would say valby and Kyle are my favorites I have leveled I would rate Kyle higher than ajax
when ult Blair comes out they will rework the mech like they did with frey.
Probably
Freyna > Bunny > Gley in current state of the game, never liked Haley but I acknowledge that she is an S tier bosser, maybe I'll build her up properly once she gets the prime variant. over 700hrs actively farming ferrari's crit mod but no dice so I just use him for cracking the vaults. Sharen only for outposts. The rest of the characters are just there as a filler. Personally I have invested a lot into frost girl and Valby but I don't play them anymore.
That transcendant mod farm is brutal
1200 hours in active game (i mean no afk gameplay like BDO), with pretty much no endgame, just running same missions all the time, over 3 months ? all due respect mate, i think you need help
When I see this a bunny on the squad I'm like fuck y... no, fuck this shit game Alt+F4
You can be the Bunny, or chase the Bunny. Hippity hoppity
😂 dude put luna on the bottom and im over here running thru 400% dungeons with Noise surge
Jayber Is even irritating on the starting game screen.
Played a defense for leveling and picked the right secluded room was there for a minute
A dude with a Mayberry’s walked in and started dropping his skills , completely tone deaf I was there .
let’s just say it was like the 2 time I lost defense. For some dumb reason that player lives rent free in my head and I refuse to build jayber
Gley, hailey, yujin, and lepic all below veissa? Wtf is that
Its a brave new world :D
Lost me with the random Gley slander. My queen is the most diverse descendant in the game and she’s literally the jack of all trades. Like your tier list went from your solo perspective, then you got to Gley and all of a sudden you consider how everyone else plays. Like every descendant has people who play them like trash.🤡
Lepics piss me off he can’t reach over 60% crit and I’m telling your rn there won’t ever be bosses with low skill crit resistance ever again your y’all are just going be feeding enraged gauge for no real damage pay off. It would be really cool if Sharen is actually the next decent that she comes w a battle suit melting nuts type mod but instead of shredding def and elec resist is shred crit resist And boss atk or sum idk.
This video is quite accurate of where the Descendants stand. I pity those who got stuck with certain characters and don’t have the time to grind all other characters, so they play in a bubble and don’t have the chance to compare and contrast.
It definately is fun trying out all the different descendants
Isn't Ajax the tank? Take aggro, protect teammates etc.
I love Luna but her buff range is trash!!! The later intercept battles people are soooooo spread out so you dont buff them
She needs work
Gley let me down
For me #1 is Ult.Gley - can carry any colossus & dungeons. _"void mania"_
Then Ult.Bunny - fastest farm & lvl up in 400% dungeons. _"dungeon master"_
*non-crit builds made them even better.
-simping- Working on Ult.Freyna, that big 🍑 ughmm....need to test her personaly!
hahahahaha
This is entirely too long
Gley and Lepic in same tier with Kyle and Yujin and Esiemo 🤣
I might have put Gley too high on the list
@@theFullMeasure You might have a career in the entertainment industry as a comedian 🤣
@@lanelesic what do you think my day job is? :p
Jayber s teir but Ajax is not worth anything besides take damage for fun
I feel like im the only person who genuinely doesnt like bunny, im not saying shes bad but shes definitely the most boring to me
There are TONS of people that dislike Bunny, entire groups of people complaining on forums etc
@theFullMeasure honestly i believe that's taking it too far, she's just not my type of play style
I would say not worth researching is misleading because u should research every descendent and level them up to 40 for mastery rank then just simply dismiss them
Not everyone cares about Mastery Rank and many will most likely never play past the 50 hour mark and for them Jayber is a monumental waste of time
if viessa had a crit chance buff when she does the finger snap whirlwind like haileys version she would be s-teir. drop whirlwind on dungeon boss, flop out enduring legacy. game over.
Busted!
Esiemo gaming is S tier atleast.
Esiemo is still complete garbage. Dude is Diet Lepic and is Bottom 3 with Luna and Jayber.
Transcendent Desendents when?
Season 69 :D
@@theFullMeasureI’m along for the ride
Wrong about Jaber. He is just as good as Enzo at what he does.
Jayber and Enzo should not be mentioned in the same sentence
Bro what .?lmao
lepic BELOW ajax, enzo, and sharen? yikes. viessa on SAME tier as ajax, enzo and sharen? double yikes.
51 min 💀💀💀💀
Ajax S tier
One things for sure, Ajax mains are super loyal to Ajax
OMFG!!! This dude is SOOOOO long winded...🤣🤣🤣
Alphabetical huh? We sure about that? 😂
Yeah... I realize this is your opinion, and that's fine, but the placement of some of these Descendants is fucking laughable. Especially Gley. Boring? LMAO. "Got potential". You straight lost me with that one placement alone. This tier list is... a list. That's for sure.
I do agree that a lot of Gley players can be trash. That's a skill issue, not a character issue. She can do everything. And that includes Deathstalker despite people believing taking her into that fight is throwing. Again, player/skill issue. Not character.
Any descendant can beat Death Stalker, that doesn't affect my opinion of a character at all. They can however be boring while doing it :D
Stopped watching when he put Blair as a gimmick. Wow. No doubt the rest of the vid was laughable 😂
Added to a huge list of youtubers I've unsubd from in the last cpl months. Only 3 ppl left I bother watching, hopefully they don't turn bipolar like this guy 😂
Couldnt care about your tier list this game as a whole is just really bad and poorly made from its predecessor warframe deleted this game 3 weeks in and its not gotten any bit better
Bro list is trash , bunny only good killing ads and Hailey is got potential 🤣🤣🤣🤣 uninstall