One of the most thrilling historical novels that follows the life of Alexander the Great during his legendary campaign to avenge the Persian invasions in Greece, is “The Virtues of War” by Steven Pressfield. Truly epic.
I hope you'll cover more Seleucid rulers. I would especially like a longer video about the dynasty's founder, Seleucus I Nicator. I think he's a really underrated historical figure.
I don't believe that Antiochus fell in love with Stratonice. Seleucus definitely wanted to make Antiochus his heir but Stratonice's presence could be challenging if she gave birth to a son. Also, Greek rulers looked down upon Persians so probably Greek rulers wouldn't be respectful of Antiochus that much. By giving Stratonice to Antiochus, he fulfilled Stratonice's ambition of getting a younger husband and being a Queen Mother, meanwhile Antiochus ws saved from machinations of step mother.
Stratonice was initmate with both father and son. It would be so awkward if Seleucus halted at Antiochus' residence. 🤢 Stratonice was mother of Seleucus' daughter so it isn't easy to forget the moments spent in night. Gosh, it hurts my tummy. 🤢🫠
Is there a reason why you pronounce "Antiochus" several different ways, most of them different from how any other Brit classicist does? I'm sorry, I wish this didn't fixate me so much
The love of Antioco and Estranoice seems to me to be one of the most romantic and poetic. I have the feeling that they sincerely loved each other. And I believe that Antiochus was as effective a king as he was a great father; without a doubt the death of Seleucus Jr. would have caused immense pain and difficult to recover from that blow. Estranoice would probably have told him something like Since you killed my son - with tears in your eyes - you killed his mother, you killed your wife. After that there would have been a separation, as is logical to think, but in the end before his death they would have reconciled but it would have been hard for both, since they would begin to question themselves where they failed and they would surely have drawn the conclusion that the family and the People are corrupted by power.
@@dreadjack117 I don't think there's a rule that you need to use pronounciation of a different language if you're loaning a word (and using spelling of 2000 years ago)
@@dreadjack117 Maybe? But I’m more complaining because the pronunciation was annoying and incorrect. It’s like that dude who went on Wheel of Fortune and pronounced Achilles’s name as A-Chill-less and not Uh-kill-ees
Seems like an arbitrary distinction to make. If there is no consensus way to pronounce something, why correct him? What makes you more correct? Wouldn't the correct answer be how his name was probably pronounced by his contemporaries?
I noticed that you started using BCE…. Could you explain what it refers to, what dates signal is beginning and end, and what event separates it from CE?
Maybe Antiochus killed his son because Stratonice was conspiring to kill Antiochus and make her son the King although it would be her son only who would ascend the throne. Hmm...a conspiracy theory or its also possible Antiochus thought that Seleucus wasn't his child. 😮 Well, the reason can be anything but Antiochus killing Seleucus reminds of Suleiman killing Mustafa and Var Git Olum playing in background.
@@nikolamilinovic1230 I don't believe this happened, Seleucus wanted Antiochus to succeed due to him having Apama's Persian genes which would make him more acceptable to the native people. Also, if Stratonice would give birth to a boy, she would want him to succeed , making an enemy for Antiochus. He didn't want things to go down which later happened with Antiochus Theos. So, he found the solution, he arranged for Stratonice and Antiochus' marriage, Antiochus as a dutiful son took blame for this weird decision all on himself meanwhile Stratonice was forced to accept this decision. Though Seleucus was old he was still a Greek while Antiochus was half Sogdian, Stratonice wouldn't be too thrilled even if Antiochus was younger. Antiochus' love and Stratonice being the sole Queen in power made this decision tolerable for her. 🫠
@@JeffreyHornick-ep3siThey had to emulate the gods and preserve the royal blood as recommended by Egypt's clerical council, as previous dynasties had done before.
5:45 Lol, Antiochus lifting Stratonice in the air. Considering Seleucus was sceptical that Stratonice would fight his decision of giving her to Antiochus, probably Stratonice preferred an old Greek man over a half Sogdian young man. 🤔 And if we see mosaic found in Syria and their coins, Seleucus was more handsome than Antiochus. 😂
El amor de Antioco con Estranoice me parece el mas bello. Yo creo que ambos se amaron de verdad . Problamente ambos negaron ese sentimiento prohibido y nunca se lo confesaron pero todo cambio cuando enfermo por la locura del amor...luego de ello tuvieron 2 hijos y 3 hijas eso demuestra que hubo un amor genuino. Posdata me parece una estupidez analizarlo siempre con el enfoque cientifico-politico ya que los reyes estan hecho de carne y hueso como nosotros son personas como tu u como tu ,por lo tanto aman y tienen sentimientos como nosotros.
Coincido plenamente contigo ,la verdad creo que su amor fue genuino y verdadero. Por algo tuvieron 5 hijos además las fuentes no mencionan que tuvo alguna amante ni ninguna concubina algo similar con Antigono Gonata con su esposa Fila [y es raro ya que las monarquías helenistica podrías tener a dos o más esposas].
@@Imperiogriegomaybe they were bi and preferred other sex, Seleucus seems to have one wife only 😂 when he could have as many as he could want and the reason can be this not genuine affection 😂
Everyone correcting the narrator's pronunciation is missing the fact that this is an AI voice and there's likely not much the creator can do to correct it when it pronounces words incorrectly.
"One of Alexander's most trusted generals"????? Seriously? Alexander didn't know Seleucos existed and the latter became relevant after the death of the conqueror Plus Antiochos is the son of Seleucos, a Mediterranean, and Apama, a sogdian. How come he is pale and blond?? Honestly, I didn't watch more than 1 minute of your video. Too much for someone for studied the hellenistic period. Lastly its pronounced Seleukid empire
Maybe that's why he kept his Persian Wives. Other Generals were very ambitious and wanted to look like they preferred Greek Wives for political purposes. 🤔 Seleucus was ambitious but also shrewd and sneaky 😈
Αντίοχος Antiochos Why the "k" pronounciation? Its simple "h" as in the word 'horizon'. Antio - hos basically. Edit: I swear English only make things worse. Why they even change his original name's suffix? From "-os" to "-us"? This is ridiculous. Its borderline a mockery. Imagine having a great character to be known with his name butchered as if deliberately. Imagine: Gaies Julias Cizar.
One of the most thrilling historical novels that follows the life of Alexander the Great during his legendary campaign to avenge the Persian invasions in Greece, is “The Virtues of War” by Steven Pressfield.
Truly epic.
“King of the Universe”
Damn Now that’s a title.
Is it referring to Κοσμοκρατωρας? World Holder?
Old title descended from the Sumerian Akkadians popularized by Sargon used by those after. Google is also cool
Seleucus holding his and Apama's picture is so wholesome 😢
I hope you'll cover more Seleucid rulers. I would especially like a longer video about the dynasty's founder, Seleucus I Nicator. I think he's a really underrated historical figure.
I love seeing Seleucid banners so much.
I don't believe that Antiochus fell in love with Stratonice. Seleucus definitely wanted to make Antiochus his heir but Stratonice's presence could be challenging if she gave birth to a son. Also, Greek rulers looked down upon Persians so probably Greek rulers wouldn't be respectful of Antiochus that much. By giving Stratonice to Antiochus, he fulfilled Stratonice's ambition of getting a younger husband and being a Queen Mother, meanwhile Antiochus ws saved from machinations of step mother.
Wow, you put a lot of effort in this one. 30 minutes and giving us information for a guy that most of us don’t know. Thanks!
Nicely done video. This guy was obviously one of the more effective rulers of history.
Stratonice is the original MILM
Antiochus was older than her.
@jonoc3729 and ? Lets not make this more creepy than it already is
It was such a good video 👍
Right on time.
Stratonice was initmate with both father and son. It would be so awkward if Seleucus halted at Antiochus' residence. 🤢 Stratonice was mother of Seleucus' daughter so it isn't easy to forget the moments spent in night. Gosh, it hurts my tummy. 🤢🫠
Thank you man❤❤
Is there a reason why you pronounce "Antiochus" several different ways, most of them different from how any other Brit classicist does? I'm sorry, I wish this didn't fixate me so much
Pretty sure it's an ai generated channel
Dude, you haven't made a good video on the founder of the Empire, Seleucus Nicator. Make one video on him too 😂
The love of Antioco and Estranoice seems to me to be one of the most romantic and poetic. I have the feeling that they sincerely loved each other. And I believe that Antiochus was as effective a king as he was a great father; without a doubt the death of Seleucus Jr. would have caused immense pain and difficult to recover from that blow. Estranoice would probably have told him something like Since you killed my son - with tears in your eyes - you killed his mother, you killed your wife. After that there would have been a separation, as is logical to think, but in the end before his death they would have reconciled but it would have been hard for both, since they would begin to question themselves where they failed and they would surely have drawn the conclusion that the family and the People are corrupted by power.
You seriously think that a girl like Stratonice who was overly ambitious would have thought that 😂
Anti-Awh-Kuss! Anti-Awh-Kuss! Not Anti-Oh-cues.
Ah-Dee-Awh-kawhs is probably closer to how Antiochus was pronounced.
@@dreadjack117 I don't think there's a rule that you need to use pronounciation of a different language if you're loaning a word (and using spelling of 2000 years ago)
@@freddekl1102you’re right, let’s just call him Steve /stiːv/
@@dreadjack117 Maybe? But I’m more complaining because the pronunciation was annoying and incorrect. It’s like that dude who went on Wheel of Fortune and pronounced Achilles’s name as A-Chill-less and not Uh-kill-ees
Seems like an arbitrary distinction to make. If there is no consensus way to pronounce something, why correct him? What makes you more correct? Wouldn't the correct answer be how his name was probably pronounced by his contemporaries?
27:44 Bindusara was reportedly Philhelene (Admirer of Greeks). Probably because of one of Seleucus' daughters being his step mother.
I noticed that you started using BCE…. Could you explain what it refers to, what dates signal is beginning and end, and what event separates it from CE?
BCE means BCE and CE means AD
@@MistySakura-db6ns yeah but why change it?
@@MistySakura-db6nsalso you didn’t answer my other questions
@@mrmdemeter1 They did answer your question. It really doesn't matter.
@@coryfice1881 It's funny that you think history doesn't matter on a "history channel"
Antiochus passed away in 261 BCE? Same year when Ashoka did that Kalinga War. Interesting 🤔
28:34 Bindusara looks so cute and Diodorus wrote that he was Phiilhelene 😀
28:33 Demetrius- I am not happy Seleucus, I AM NOT HAPPY 😡
22:36 Reminds of Suleyman and Mustafa
Can you make a video on Alexander Balas? The man who calimed to be son of Epiphanes but most likely wasn't. Balas ended Seleucid Bloodline 😡
1:06 Why the guy in the background pissed
3:47 Was Apama really dead when he married Stratonice? 🤔
Nice
Left on time.
Maybe Antiochus killed his son because Stratonice was conspiring to kill Antiochus and make her son the King although it would be her son only who would ascend the throne. Hmm...a conspiracy theory or its also possible Antiochus thought that Seleucus wasn't his child. 😮 Well, the reason can be anything but Antiochus killing Seleucus reminds of Suleiman killing Mustafa and Var Git Olum playing in background.
Antiochus was half Persian but his descendants were pure Greeks
If they are his descendants, they will have some Persian ancestry by default, and therefore cannot be "pure" Greeks by logic
@easthurricane I know but mostly Greeks as his descendants married only Greek women, atleast their Chief Queens were Greeks.
13:13 OMG so cute 🥺
Anti-oh-koos was an interesting character.
I don't believe in that love sickness story but if it's true then damn, he threw a tantrum to get a gift from his father.😂🤣
@MistySakura-db6ns Haha yeah he went creepy there...
@@nikolamilinovic1230 I don't believe this happened, Seleucus wanted Antiochus to succeed due to him having Apama's Persian genes which would make him more acceptable to the native people. Also, if Stratonice would give birth to a boy, she would want him to succeed , making an enemy for Antiochus. He didn't want things to go down which later happened with Antiochus Theos. So, he found the solution, he arranged for Stratonice and Antiochus' marriage, Antiochus as a dutiful son took blame for this weird decision all on himself meanwhile Stratonice was forced to accept this decision. Though Seleucus was old he was still a Greek while Antiochus was half Sogdian, Stratonice wouldn't be too thrilled even if Antiochus was younger. Antiochus' love and Stratonice being the sole Queen in power made this decision tolerable for her. 🫠
Antiochus killed Seleucus like Suleyman killed Mustafa 😢
26:45 Demaichus doesn't wanna be there 😂
Seleucus and Stratonice had a daughter, A DAUGHTER who married her maternal uncle, Antigonus Gonatas. Truly messed up family 🫠
As bad as the Ptolemies who took to marrying their sisters.
@@JeffreyHornick-ep3si Ptolemies were wild and the sickness started in Seleucids as well 😢 too much for blood purity
@@JeffreyHornick-ep3siThey had to emulate the gods and preserve the royal blood as recommended by Egypt's clerical council, as previous dynasties had done before.
5:45 Lol, Antiochus lifting Stratonice in the air. Considering Seleucus was sceptical that Stratonice would fight his decision of giving her to Antiochus, probably Stratonice preferred an old Greek man over a half Sogdian young man. 🤔 And if we see mosaic found in Syria and their coins, Seleucus was more handsome than Antiochus. 😂
Make a video on Kombabos and Seleucus, gosh what a creepy story 😂
Hey man, the name is Antiochos, Αντίοχος in Greek. Antiochus is Αντίοκους (antiokus) which is blatantly wrong 😂
Antiochus in his coins looked he was done with life 😢
Why i find your Chanel so late. 👍
El amor de Antioco con Estranoice me parece el mas bello. Yo creo que ambos se amaron de verdad .
Problamente ambos negaron ese sentimiento prohibido y nunca se lo confesaron pero todo cambio cuando enfermo por la locura del amor...luego de ello tuvieron 2 hijos y 3 hijas eso demuestra que hubo un amor genuino.
Posdata me parece una estupidez analizarlo siempre con el enfoque cientifico-politico ya que los reyes estan hecho de carne y hueso como nosotros son personas como tu u como tu ,por lo tanto aman y tienen sentimientos como nosotros.
Coincido plenamente contigo ,la verdad creo que su amor fue genuino y verdadero. Por algo tuvieron 5 hijos además las fuentes no mencionan que tuvo alguna amante ni ninguna concubina algo similar con Antigono Gonata con su esposa Fila [y es raro ya que las monarquías helenistica podrías tener a dos o más esposas].
@@Imperiogriegomaybe they were bi and preferred other sex, Seleucus seems to have one wife only 😂 when he could have as many as he could want and the reason can be this not genuine affection 😂
Antiochus Soter was friends with Amitrochates and his step maternal uncle but refused to send Sophists at his court. 😂
Amitrochates asked for Sweet Wine not Bindusara. Amitrochates being Bindusara though a highly possible theory is still only a theory.
What if Seleucus was not son of Antiochus and Stratonice? That can be one of the reasons why he killed him. 😮
4:08
Demetrius- Really dude? Are you really gonna hold picture of you with your dead wife all the time.
Everyone correcting the narrator's pronunciation is missing the fact that this is an AI voice and there's likely not much the creator can do to correct it when it pronounces words incorrectly.
Ptolemy Keranous and Ashoka were two faces of the same coin
"Greek and Macedonians" gfy
24:43 Chanakya and Megasthenes? 😂
Ain’t his name pronounced anti- oct-tus ? Anti-oak-tus sounds odd.
I'm sorry, Antiochus "I". No way you are human
Why are you being so weird pronouncing Antiochus? Every time it sounds different and with a different flow.
"One of Alexander's most trusted generals"????? Seriously?
Alexander didn't know Seleucos existed and the latter became relevant after the death of the conqueror
Plus Antiochos is the son of Seleucos, a Mediterranean, and Apama, a sogdian. How come he is pale and blond??
Honestly, I didn't watch more than 1 minute of your video. Too much for someone for studied the hellenistic period.
Lastly its pronounced Seleukid empire
Maybe that's why he kept his Persian Wives. Other Generals were very ambitious and wanted to look like they preferred Greek Wives for political purposes. 🤔 Seleucus was ambitious but also shrewd and sneaky 😈
Was Antiochus blonde? 😂
Αντίοχος
Antiochos
Why the "k" pronounciation? Its simple "h" as in the word 'horizon'.
Antio - hos basically.
Edit:
I swear English only make things worse. Why they even change his original name's suffix? From "-os" to "-us"? This is ridiculous.
Its borderline a mockery.
Imagine having a great character to be known with his name butchered as if deliberately.
Imagine:
Gaies Julias Cizar.