Christopher Nolan Is Unfathomably Based
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Now the twitter warriors think they’re better directors too.
You are one of the chosen ones that was able to have their comment shown.
All hail @OneTwoMark.
They always have
mmmmmm. the pain of how humanity typically acts is still painful but now it's becoming part of familiarity. I think I'm being given Stockholm Sydrome by my species.
@@RiclmnoppYeah my comment got deleted someho
there is no end to a narcissist's delusions.
People still remember Gladiator and talk about it to this day.
What we do in life…
@@jeremytitus9519 Echoes in Eternity
Because it's an awesome film. lol
and all because we were entertained
OF COURSE WE DO..
he didnt say nothing special, he just spoke common sense about how art works, a very rare thing in hollywood these days.
FACTS!
if it's common sense, it by definition cannot be "rare"
so it's not common sense.
Also yes he is saying something special, since you're obviously not someone who has created something in your entire life that wasn't biological in nature, you wouldn't really understand. There is no rules to what people create. Believing that someone needs YOUR common sense to make something without being bad is objectively stupid as fuck.
He's not some mega genius with no man who comes close or some shit, but your inability to understand the basic framework of how entertainment media even works let alone is created is not the reason for that.
@@Disconnected66 He's not saying you can't make your art about your politics, he's saying that people are more likely to reject it because of it (which is exactly what's happened). If you do make your art about your politics, you are literally just making propaganda
Yep and what he's saying also proves to be factual. Like look at the MCU in recent years, after Endgame it was less about telling good stories and more about talentless writers interjecting with their own political views and shoving it down people's throats.
People don't care if the lead is a woman or if a character is gay/trans/any other race. But when you make the character completely focused on that aspect that's when you lose people's interest which means you're also losing money.
Nolan's track record speaks for itself because he understands how his audience thinks and doesn't try to lecture them in his films.
@@Disconnected66 politics are divisive by nature, i think its "common sense" to try to making stories, which are supposed to be for everyone, as neutral as possible, even if they have politics like his last film
As he said you cant tell people what to think like a politician or whatever, you are a movie director, be a f movie director, which mainly should focus on giving the audience characters to root for and admire, emotional payoffs and stuff like that
"Being apolitical is political"
LOL, how desperate is this guy to feel like his opinions matter to everyone.
He has a picture of young Stalin as his profile picture, so no surprise there, I'd say.
Not only that "being apolotical is conservative-leaning" just like wtf
Yeah someone clearly has never left Hasanabi's subreddit
Sadly it kind of is.
Not participating in discussions of a political matter means that every voice that decides to raise their concerns gains more weight. This is one of the fundamental reasons why political extremism works, as its effect is amplified by the majority of people who decide to not raise their concerns.
Basically it's analogue to communication as you cannot decide to not communicate as the decision to not communicate with someone is communicating that information itself.
these Twitter degens just want to cancel because Tumblr got sick of them and booted them off the platform. I wish Twitter does the same thing but I wonder how much the damage to society will be when they do end up on a new platform. At least now they're just jokes in Twitter.
“Being apolitical is political” i facepalm every time I hear that shit
the guy has stalin as his pfp. He isn't bound to be a smart individual.
" Not affirming me is genocide"
But it's the truth though. In russia, by being apolitical a lot of people gave out their power to the goverment. Even though most of them didn't want a war against Ukraine, but they decided to be apolitical and let the goverment decided what to do. So its literally the truth, even though people try to cope it's not.
It is the truth though. Your choice not vote is a political decision. Your choice not to engage in discourse dealing with politics is a political decision. Nolan's choice not to include his personal politics in a movie is in itself a political decision. This coming from someone who considers him one of the best 3 directors currently plying their trade in Hollywood.
@ksenomorfify that's not how that works. It wouldn't matter what the people do. Russias history is full of propaganda. It's like asking the people of North Korea to rebel. They don't know any better and you aren't in their shoes. Christopher Nolan, a random movie director, not being political, isn't going to change much in the political landscape. Stop perpetuating the narrative everybody has to be as radical as you are.
He understands where the fine line between being an artist and being a propagandist exists. Most of those who identify as either tend to not really know where they stand, or even comprehend the existence of that line, but it's definite.
It's like the movie 'High Noon' from the same period that was based around a Sheriif that the town refused to help. Most theorize the story was based off the Hollywood blacklists and how everyone desserted them.
With Tiktock and Twittter brains today, they can't comprehend a story can mean a message.
By not being political he can make every controversial thing into a film. Almost every film he made ended ambiguously, so people can't drag him into the mud
Yup, its very much what people on Twitter or even SBI are in general, they don't really know where they really stand, it sounds like they do, but it all feels shallow and artificial, it doesn't possess the depth behind it all, it ends up becoming political for clout.
I don't think people identify as propagandists, most of us just are. But yeah this new era of aggressive activisim in film and art is glaringly apparent, though I'm sure the industry will shift away from it eventually.
has nothing to do with being a propagandist dude, if it were propaganda it would work, left films do not make right wing people more left because they are shit movies, not because they are propaganda
my man duel welding oscar statues.
Looks like a good strength/dexterity build
Finally he can do some bicep curls
Akimbo oscars!
@@tobiakilo3413 And charisma. Oscars scale off of charisma, too.
@@Fun-BladeThere is a hidden arcane scaling.
Whenever anyone tells me "everything is political", "the personal is political" or "all art is political" I always retort with "You only think that because you are philosophically a totalitarian"
Yeah it is pretty much literally totalitarian
But why retort at all? Why waste your precious breath?
I wrote my master thesis on totalitarianism. you are spot on, my friend.
i never really got that. if everything is political than basically nothing is political and it doesnt really matter?
Back in my freshman year my senior was giving a speech about everything is political even in your home the dynamic between mom and dad (this was before everything is patriarchy's fault) and i was facepalming. Imagine how bad senior year activist speech must've become these days
"We go to the movies not to think, but to feel." Tsui Hark.
Ironically the people that want politics in movies are in reality doing a lot more feeling than thinking lolol
Why cant we do both? I just dont need to waste time thinking about someone's self-righteous ideology on screen
@@aznboi1027 My point exactly. Nolan is a great director because he makes you think and feel at the same time.
A film can do both. If you're too much of a whiny little bitch to handle hearing political ideology that you don't agree with then go watch something else.
Only stupid people would say so. Many viewers also watch movies because they want to see intellectually challenging content too.
"What a dumb person," says the unknown twitter user to one of the most successful hollywood directors.
To be fair you can be successful while being dumb.
@@johnjack3578 yeah, but in this case it's like a child's shitty school drawing insulting The Starry Night.
so you mean population in general is genius? genius. @@johnjack3578
@@johnjack3578That's true, but try being dumb and repeatedly directing successful movies. Not gonna happen
As once beloved shows and films lose all their reputation, flop and get completely crapped on by people who were once fans for the reasons he's talking about.
Art is supposed to ask questions and make you want to find your own answers . Telling you how you’re supposed to feel and what you should think is not art, its propaganda.
thanks for summing up what we just saw :D
"and that's a good thing"
@@pineappleparty1624 Believe it or not, most people in the comments completely misunderstood.
Exactly
I disagree, you can express a view point in your art and have it still make people think. There are many examples
>Wins 2 Oscars
>Starts doing curls with them
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Leaves
Gigachad
This really is just far too based for modern entertainment. Hollywood doesn't deserve Christopher Nolan. He's a true artist and storyteller, not a propagandist. He's one of the real ones, and he deserves all the success he gets.
Christopher Nolan is not the director Hollywood deserves, but the one it needs.
As an artist myself, I have great respect for the integrity and dedication of Mr. Nolan, for the fact that he prioritizes and nurtures his movies to be he best they can be, rather than using his works as sloppy propaganda films.
It is wild that Nolan literally said he didn't make movies specifically voicing HIS political views, and Twidiots didn't get that. They couldn't separate Nolan's political views from the politics of the film, they really seemed to not even understand what he was saying.
Nobody said Oppenheimer isn't political. It's hard to make a film about that man and the bomb without trying to make a point. But that doesn't mean the film was injected with Nolan's personal views, as such. He gave voice to the politics as they pertained to the story, but they weren't 'his' politics.
If he wont use his own he'll disseminate someone elses? Doesn't seem as based that way.
@@MerlynMusicman That's just...functionally how movies work. If you're not telling your story, you're telling someone elses. I can see you probably thought that was a clever idea, but really, it was mind-numbingly boobish.
@@MerlynMusicman That's as based as it gets my friend. When you are a normal funcioning person you aren't scared by foreign toughts and you don't screech "cancel him" as soon as someone says something that's outside your political beliefs.
@@MerlynMusicman It's a poor artist who is so limited that they can only explore their own beliefs and views. Especially in a medium such as film where there is so much collaboration going on between entire departments to produce a single piece.
Nolan is good enough at his craft, that it speaks for him.
He does NOT need to speak for his craft.
Wow. 60 comments, and I can't see any of them! Great work RUclips!
It's 123 and I'm seeing only yours 😂
You are the chosen one. We can only see yours.
120 now...
the irony of this being the only visible comment ! :D
same
i love the comment that said that "being apolitical is conservative-leaning", as if that isnt definitive proof that they themselves are an extremist.
History isn't written by the apathetic. Being an "extremist" isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just means you aren't walking with the herd. Depending on the cultural context that can be a good or bad thing. Even good and bad is subjective depending on the culture.
@@Heeroyui752 Nobody likes crazy people. And shut the hell up with the "good bad subjective" crap. Nothing subjective about wanting to stay safe and avoid crazy people that hate you just because you don't think like them.
@@Heeroyui752 Being an extremist means a lot more than simply not walking with the herd. It's a long road from dead center to the extreme end on any political spectrum.
@@Heeroyui752if your political drive and message is one of extremes then most of the people don't want anything to do with it, since "normal" and "average" is not going to align with an extreme. This is why most people are so annoyed with politics, not because they're not participating in politics but because they fundamentally disagree with your extremist notions, including the insane notion to make your entire identity and every conversation you have about politics.
@@Heeroyui752 No, you don't have to take things to the extreme to not be a lemming and sometimes "the herd" is extremist, so you're wrong on all fronts. Plus that guy clearly thinks his views are the herd's norm, that's why he's signaling Nolan out as "right wing". He's trying to force him to comply.
It's so freaking nice to have at least one dude in Hollywood doing his actual job and not pretending he's some kind of advocate.
"Being apolitical is political" "being apolitical is being conservative" This is one of the most authoritarian, fascist things to say, it's an euphemism for "If you are not with me, then you are part of the enemy"
They absolutely think that. That Vosh guy that was exposed a couple months ago casually labeled a different streamer as conservative and said that is inexcusable, inexcusable to be conservative like its a crime lol.
@@pineappleparty1624 what did vaush get exposed for?
@@user-tn4rx8pc3p He exposed his P*rn folder on stream and it had pictures of loli and animals in it. Combine that with the fact that he has said before he considers loli as CP, not to mention the YIKES things he has said about the age of consent and the morality of CP, it’s pretty obvious to assume Vaush is a PDF-File
@@user-tn4rx8pc3p What didn't he ?
Pedophilia , Beastality but these are just the cherry on top
His whole woke shit is beyond anything imaginable
@@user-tn4rx8pc3p You can look it up lol, I doubt yt AI moderation would let me near the thought of writing it out....
Unfathomably BASED and inconceivably NARRATIVEPILLED
the message of Oppenheimer, if there is any, is "How about we DON'T blow each other up?" how is that political on one side or the other?
Edit: I GET IT!!!! saying "how about we don't blow each other up" is a political position (some-fucking-how). what i meant to say is that it's not a political position people should be complaining about. i just suck at conveyng my thoughts in a clear manner.
Believe it or not there are war hawk types who think that is less of a priority than expanding control.
You can't make a completely apolitical film about Oppenheimer, but you can make a film without inserting your own messaging about the events. Everything Nolan did in Oppenheimer is show the political (as well as scientific, moral, personal, etc.) ramifications of the story itself.
Nevermind Nolan said he does not make films about his own political interests, not about politics in general.
The entire film was about politics, but Nolan wasn't trying to shoehorn in HIS politics or the political opinion of either left or right ideology and that's what pisses them off the most.
Did it ever occur to you he was just trying to tell a story, not send a message?
@@SyndicateOperative did it ever occur to you that i put "if there is any" in the comment?
I actually cant believe people asked him as if it was an obvious thing to politically insert your BS into movies.
People really have become brainwashed huh
Good point.
I miss the days when if you had a president in a movie you couldn’t tell what party he/she represented. Unfortunately modern movies like to make it very clear and constantly poke fun at the other side whatever it may be.
Display picture checks out.
These people don't understand the idea of being subtle, and they don't think the primary focus of a movie should be to entertain.
Many organizations and companies have chosen the political approach to make their consumers "feel good" while they consume. It's a ruse to drive up profits, but the consumers themselves think they are doing good and so many people born into that view expect EVERYONE to do the same thing their favorite companies do. that's unreasonable.
that was such a good way to put it. he is just asking questions and its for the audience to decide what the answer should be.
We actually need more creatives to have this stance. Just focus on making something fascinating while ignoring, or at the very least try to ignore, any political connections or comments as you do.
Theres a reason he has 2 oscars..haha
People legitimately can't understand the difference between media made about a political topic that treats the audience with respect and media beating the audience over the head repeatedly with politics to the point of tedium, or they are being disingenuous because they love political opinions that they agree with being blasted into peoples faces like an airhorn
Politics is nice in movies if they make you think instead of telling you what to think
Here’s the trick. Creatives like Nolan can do political stuff but it’s from a neutral stand point. He can create a character as demented as the Joker from TDK that’s kinda like a right winger taken to an absurd extreme of becoming a domestic terrorist. To him being able to write more left leaning characters in his other movies with subtle approaches in his writing. This works because he’s showing these characters and how they interact in their respective world and isn’t preaching to us “Joker = bad,” “these other characters = good.” He’s letting the audience draw their own conclusions.
If you take a closer look you might notice the people that shoehorn an agenda into the things they make aren't very creative at all
The best movie with any kind of politics is the Star Wars prequels. Entire trilogy is based around political machinations and how a republic and democracy dies. Politics is literally the central plot and point of them, and yet they dont ram political points or ideals down your throat.
exactly this. an audience can tell, especially these days, when a movie script is written to wag its finger at the audience telling them to fall in line.
Hell one of my favorite genres and recent games is cyberpunk, which is a heavy criticism of unchecked capitalism. It even has a trans person in it, which the "alt right" should demonise according to the left. But they dont, because its handled with care, tact, and the final product is great.
Its not one dimensional and actually cares to tell a story beyond just the politics, whereas in most modern hollywood productions every single thing is secondary to the politics it wants to push.
Great example. As a Christian man, I viewed that whole thing with the Sith like the Antichrist taking his seat, and the Galactic Empire as the New World Order. Love Star Wars episodes 1-6. It was in good taste and it was properly done. Then you see what happens when the politics is biased, and there is a clear agenda being promoted with no rhyme or reason, sacrificing the very fundamentals of the movie itself for the “message”, and that’s what you got in episodes 7-9. In the prequels, the politics were within the story, within the whole plot in terms of the Empire. In episodes 7-9, the politics were outside of the story, with a real life agenda, where the movies were only a vehicle to promote them.
I mean even then those are not great movies but your right about the political interpretation imo
Same with Game of Thrones. The whole Song of Ice and Fire series is built around political intrigue, but it doesnt try to shoehorn the Martin's opinions down your throat. And thats one of the basics of being a good writer, being able to separate your own biases and opinions from your characters and the plot and instead focus on what makes a great story or character regardless of how you feel about that character. I doubt Martin would be buddies with Joffrey, that doesnt make Joffrey any less of a great character though.
Also you know what's hilarious, the twitter brainlets hate and still do hate the prequels despite how much politics is involved.
Because politics is boring, and slow, Lucas did a great job of showing how easy it is for a democracy to switch to authoritarian Real quick
Don’t tell people how to feel, make them feel
Tumblr degens on Twitter: "oh but what about Oppenheimber then?!"
They brought up Oppenheimer because they didn't watch it because had they done so, they wouldn't say something so stupid. Then again, they're that stupid.
but it clearly showed the jewish scientists as good guys fighting the evil white people in germany. it was obvious propaganda.
They 100% would. They'd say some shit like Oppenheimer is white, a man, and indirectly killed non white people
Twitter is where the Tumblr people went to graduate after their site lost its prawns (fairly sure RUclips will make this comment invisible if I type the actual word). If you're wondering why sites like Reddit, Twitter, Newgrounds turned absolutely awful, that's why.
No joke, they were busy praising each other for the idea of washing clothes in a river with a handscrubber as "fighting the system" because someone complained about the price of detergent. Absolutely wild.
@@kerianhalcyon2769 Hasn't reddit always been a shithole? Only now, u can't say politically incorrect stuff anymore.
@@anonisnoone6125yeah but it became much worse, and i say this as someone who refuses to use the site, even from the sidelines I've seen the change
Calling Nolan a "dumb person" says more about you than it does about him.
It's probably the same person who goes "Make the rules of UK black and make the main character a gay chick."
@@millanferende6723 lol yeah, there are these series nowadays that basically imply the UK was never racist.
And yet, his films are hard hitting and often highlight extremely important issues. Many times, my perspective on life and the world has been changed by this films
Well good movies should hit on themes and philosophies that touch all areas of life. Politics derives from those themes and philosophies, so in many ways a good movie should transcend politics and hit something even deeper.
They are mostly boring, overlong, and pretentious.
@mustanaamio7 Well you would know a lot about being pretentious.
@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 Nah he's right
Christopher Nolan is kind of pretentious sometimes.
@@Mustanaamio7 pretentious but in a good way, overlong no, some films should be 3hrs and it's more of a sad indictment on todays audience they get bored after 90 minutes, or 2 much dialogue. Boring really, Avengers is boring, Star Wars is boring. Nolan destroys those films
When the literal GOAT of movie making tells you it doesnt work to be political in making movies: you should probably listen.
Nolan is nowhere near the goat of movie making. And his own films have politics even if he doesn’t intend them too. Watch something like the dark knight rises and try telling anyone there’s no politics that seep into the film with a straight face
@@s1nqyy what about you make your point instead of telling us to watch a movie and make it for you?
@@mac19999x that is my point, that you won’t be able to because the film has politics. All his films do. His most popular film, the dark knight, literally has a scene where Batman decided to violate everyones privacy to stop the bad guy, and if you know how the western world was in the 2000s after 9/11, the politics are clear
@@s1nqyy so because it has human interaction its somehow become political? yea i got political with your mom last night
@@ratterkin it’d be a funny joke if your reading comprehension wasn’t terrible
In Dunkirk Christopher Nolan didn’t portrait the German as the pure evil Like many other directors do and I respect his decision. He showed that war is horrible from a british perspectiv and didn‘t show the horrible thinks Germany did from 1933-1945 because it isn‘t necesarry for the movie, as a German it feels different and the movie is more enjoiable.
Them: "Be more political!"
Director: "Fine!" *starts inserting his honest political stances, which may include those the viewer disagree with
Them: "W-wait no not that! I meant the 'right' kind of political!"
maybe they do want that so they feel justified in complaining about it lol...
"Apoliticism in itself is political"
If that's the case, then it is the sanest, less-stressful and most inclusive political stance to have. But I'm betting whoever is saying that simply just wants you to take their side instead to be honest.
That person outs themselves as a fascist. They are saying "if you disagree with me then you are my enemy."
@@gurmyigoll3535 Not just that, he's saying "if you remain quiet, it's because you secretly disagree with me" and then yes, the "you're my enemy" follows as it always does with fascists.
Are we not going to talk about the classic feature of this clip that a camera guy is just chilling in frame and it got published like that? Look at the far left corner of the frame at 0:47 and you'll see him with a white t-shirt and the camera next to him. Once you see it you'll never unsee.
Actual artists: asking hard questions, not giving answers.
Activists: not asking questions, giving simple answers.
I'm having flashbacks to watching his movies when I was a kid. Makes me emotional reading Christopher Nolan say these things because this man has provided us with great stories, for me as an example the Dark Knight trilogy, and even in the face of the public, he still gave an answer that inspires creativity in others. He understands a principle to film making / storytelling that is both essential and practical.
The best stories are ones with conundrums that never told you how to think, but offered the question of "What do YOU think?"
People confuse politics with philosophy 99% of the time
That's because there's a door panel's worth of space between them.
You know we've passed the political event horizon when people unironically say "being apolitical is political."
Nothing can escape politicization now, not even the very word that defines something as not political.
I knew I was being brainwashed to vote a certain way when I read Clifford The Big Red Dog . He's a PETA Communist, clearly.
@@milktruckdriver "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
We need to start just saying no to these people. Every time they think up a "new gender" out of thin are, just say no and walk away from them.
@@reptiliannoizezz.413Which is an absolute said by a non Sith
@@milktruckdriverI know, I've been on Reddit. There was someone on there saying that they don't like Trump or Biden and won't vote for either.
The replies were rabid feral liberals. They kept saying how he is the problem and how he is the reason Trump will get reelected. And he is the enemy.
I tried talking sense and telling them that a non vote is a non vote. And seeing as how the OP has just became old enough to vote, there is no precedent for how they think or might vote. Therefore a non vote for them does not mean they are taking a vote away from Biden, could be taking a vote away from Trump. Either way, who cares?
What they are really asking is, "why don't you make propaganda? You should make propaganda."
If you want to make a great story and also have it be political you have to be very balanced and delicate. That is not what ppl asking him that question are looking for. They want propaganda.
"They" don't want you to think, they do the thinking for you!
it's "sir christopher nolan" now since he received a knighthood this year
Oh damn, you're right!
Nolan is the Rockstar Games of the Movie Industry it takes awhile for a new movie to come out but when it does. It's a brilliant work of art
"being apolitical is political"
By the people of "silence is violence".
1:32 he speaks the truth. Oscar trophies are really heavy. I held one once and it was about twice as heavy as I thought it would be.
100% right.
A great story is a story that leaves itself open to scrutiny and open to free interpretation and misinterpretation as Nolan says.
Just look at the holy bible, a prime example of how powerful storytelling can be if done right, OR wrong if misinterpreted or used for malicious purposes.
Building a narrative is all that matters. Political ideology never fits cleanly into narratives so it’s usually trimmed down into its essentials in order to get the point across. In order to do that you need to understand what the essentials are in the first place and people just don’t wanna think that hard.
"Are you not entertained?" LEGEND!😂😂😂
1:07 "People don't want to be told what to think." Sadly, there are many ignorant people who DO want (and need) to be told what to think because they are incapable of thinking for themselves.
He knows what great art is. And it's not politics.
Great art can be political
He knows what he is, a minstrel, Kurt Russel said it as well. It is not a bad thing, they exist to entertain and that is it.
B-b-but muh everything is political
"You can't tell people what to think. People just react against it!."
Wow. Never thought I'd hear something so obvious, yet so true, from a mainstream movie director. Common sense is so rare in that neck of the woods, it might as well be a superpower.
This man has really good takes man
Imagine just making a movie, or a videogame for the matter, to be entertaining? This should be such a basic principle.
him quoting my favorite film of all time just makes me like him even more
Bro woke up, decided to spit straight facts and thought we wouldn’t notice 💀
leftists: "talking about politics is political. and not talking about politics is political. i'm stupid."
Nolan isn't saying he is apolitical, he has opinions, he just doesn't want to push them onto his audience through his art which is absolutely the right way to go about it.
A lot of these people on twitter have this annoying belief that if anyone has a different opinion from them, they have to fight them on it, not healthy at all
@the second Twitter commenter who complains that Nolan movies are conservative leaning:
Wtf is he smoking? What did the Batman movies, Inception, Tenet,etc have to do with conservatism?
People on X have lost touch with reality.
The Batman films do indeed, it’s probably harder to see now, but back then in that post 9/11 neocon atmosphere, it was very obvious. The whole scene of Batman invading Gotham’s privacy for the greater good is basically playing into the politics at the time
@@s1nqyy It's bit of a stretch and the person stating that Nolan's movies are leaning towards conservatism surely didn't have Batman in mind of all movies. You could somewhat make a case for it using Dunkirk as an example but Nolan himself dismissed that notion:
" Released in the wake of the UK’s vote to leave the European Union, right-wing Brexit apostle Nigel Farage became an unlikely champion of Dunkirk, prompting headlines and articles connecting the two events. Nolan, however, is quick to disassociate the film from any contemporary nationalist agenda or even political comment. “When you’re dealing with real-life events, obviously you’re locked into the reality of those events,” he says."
A similar reasoning can be applied to Oppenheimer as well. So no, Nolan's movies aren't leaning towards a certain political ideology and only two of his movies are based on historical events that are inevitably tied to political themes.
@@hans8656 I'll disagree saying the Dark Knight isn't conservative leaning. I, myself, am a conservative, so I don't mean that in an accusatory way. I'm not going to get into why I think that because the point is moot anyway.
Because I do think in the broader picture, I think what makes Nolan's movies so great is that you are able to engross yourself into the world of his movies. They are not trying to make any political point or be a commentary on a real-world issue. I can say the politics in The Dark Knight are conservative-leaning, but what I say doesn't matter because more importantly, the movie's politics is the politics within Gotham and the world of Batman. It puts the world and its story first.
A truly good story makes you ask questions and look for your own answers instead of spoon feeding you the "right" answers.
Ask questions with your stories, i never thought of that, irl I keep making the mistake of trying to give advice and getting miffed when people want to argue instead, I need to defult to just asking questions.
If anything, it's a great opener since the other person in most conversations want's to be heard as well.
Actually a genius director, one of the best creators out there, no cap on a stack fr fr 💀👌🔥
You’re here to entertain me, not preach to me
Good political art shouldn’t be and isn’t preachy
Him saying he could do curls tells us he doesn't care about awards, he just enjoy making good films.
A good story will present moral dilemmas and not give you any answers. Instead, the characters will make their choices and then choose later how they feel about the outcome on their own. Additionally, the outcome should not always be what the viewer wants unless you want to tell a really boring story. At no point will the story attempt to tell the viewer whether anyone was right or wrong.
A master narrative writer can write a story where Hitler is the villain and everyone's favorite character in the story was Hitler. Thats what its all about. Dont get it twisted though, its not that anyone has to agree with hitler; its that it should not matter whether you agree with any character ever. You can write a story where every character makes decisions that the audience doesnt agree with and yet we are still very entertained. I will try to write one right now.
Imagine a drama with a love triangle where the main character chooses to cheat on two women but they find out about each other. In a desperate attempt to keep him from leaving her, one girl lies about being pregnant to manipulate him, which he then pretends to settle with her while he continues cheating behind her back. Eventually, the other girl chooses to murder the "pregnant" girl out of jealousy at which point she discovers she wasnt pregnant but keeps this information to herself. Our main character decides to help hide the body and evade the law because he didnt want to have a kid and grew to resent being tied down and controlled by her.
No one made the right choice, all the characters were deeply flawed and morally bankrupt, but I'd definitely still watch that movie or read that book.
"Imagine a drama with a love triangle where the main character chooses to cheat on two women but they find out about each other."
Check out the anime (or visual novel) School Days. Really twisted. Basically the sort of drama you wish for.
@@roadent217 Haha I basically completely ripped it off because it was the first thing that came to mind for a story where every character is a terrible person and I can explain it very briefly using very few characters. Very identical except a few details changed because I knew if I copied it exactly then I would be spoiling the ending to the anime.
There are very few stories where everyone is awful, and of what I know all of them are anime. The only other ones that come to mind are Redo of a Healer and maybe Domestic Girlfriend. You could argue for maybe Tomodachi Game but I am not certain if there were moral characters or not because that show sucked and I dumped it from my memory.
I think just lessening the criteria to "most characters are awful" expands the roster of shows tenfold but mostly because they are afraid of making their protagonist the bad guy, and I definitely understand why because if you misstep slightly and paint your genuinely evil main character in a good light then people become outraged. There are two common ways to solve that problem, and the first is "They're just misunderstood and they aren't actually evil" so they're the hero wearing the villains makeup (not really evil). The other solution is to make the antagonists so comically evil that doing evil actions on them becomes somehow justified.
Both solutions are annoying imo, but some people simply can't watch a story like Breaking Bad and not whine that Walter White sometimes portrayed as a badass when he is also a shitty person. It never crosses their mind that shitty people can also sometimes be a badass and that characters are more complex than strictly good and evil. Better yet, people can't watch a story like "Gushing Over Magical Girls" because the main character is a serial lesbian sex offender. To that I say... they're missing out on peak television.
This is a big reason why I love the Fallout show so much. Was Maximus right to refuse giving you-know-who a stimpack, or was he just being selfish? Are the vault dwellers cowards for hiding in the vaults, or are they just making the smart decision? The show lets the audience decide, and that’s a good thing.
People who parade their virtue often do the exact opposite behind the curtain.
Nolan want to be neutral is based, because he basically just want to create something to entertain EVERYONE, not pandering to a certain group of people or beliefs, and not restrict himself with something that can get in the way of his crafts, that's what I define as a true entertainer that everyone needs and deserve.
Being un(i)political is like Zack, very comfy in the middle; sometimes to right, sometimes to the left.
being apolitical is like Editor-sama, where he sh*ts on everyone equally.
''Yes is no. Left is right. Below is above. Being full and being hungry. Good and evil. Being apolitical or political.''
Is all the same thing guys.
Oppie is not political..
The. Setting is.. but hte story isn’t.. it’s about a man and a thing called hubris.. it’s why what eienstien tells oppie ‘ you have to live with what you have done’.. is so important.. after all the politics.. there is only you and your conscious.. just because you can do it.. doesn’t mean you should - which is why there was a part where they were talking about telling the naxi, etc the tech they had so they dont ‘mutually destroy each other.
"Not wanting to be political is political" is the kind of mentality had by people who say some crap like "she totally wanted it, look at what she was wearing."
He the only Hollywood writer the world need and deserve
Sir Christopher is one of the highlights of the of the 21 century.
I'm really glad I get to experience his movies as they release. Kudos to him and his long lasting work!
Can we clone him? You know, for prosterity.
Still makes me laugh at 0:47 where you can see the cameraman on the left.
The difference is that nolan makes actual movies, ted cruz (new star wars director) makes a documentary about why men suck and why we should all be feminists and trys to sell that as a star Wars movie
And what Star Wars movie did he work on?
"I don't have to offer the answers, I just get to ask the most interesting questions."
That is a perfect summary of how it should be done. Ask the question, and let the audience find the answer for themselves, rather than trying to shove it down their throats like so many forms of modern media do.
the lad detonated a nuke for a movie about the father of nukes, of course he's based
Agreed. Whether it's literature or film, it isn't about forcing answers down your audience's throat, but rather asking the right questions and letting them decide what answers speak to them instead.
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Bro I can't even write the brain word. 🙄
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How did Rick Rubin say it?
“Art isn’t about making something people like. It’s you making something good enough you felt like sharing it with others. If people like it, great.”
woke hollywood keeps failing cause they shove their personal ideology and politics
This is what I don’t get about you guys. You hear “politics in movies” and instantly picture a black woman in a marvel movie or something. I hear politics in movies and think of Pasolini, Goddard, Capra etc
I've been writing for decades and have never once even thought about putting my politic stance into anything I do. I'm not writing stories to change anyones mind on anything, I do it for fun, the love of it and to spark other peoples imaginations and entertain them.
christopher being based as always
“I don’t have to offer the answers, I just get to ask the most interesting questions.”
That’s the basis of most valuable visual and narrative art in the world. Everyone has an opinion and it will naturally seep into their work, but there’s a clear difference between documentary and cinema in the same way there is a lecture versus a conversation. The man gets storytelling and anyone who thinks he’s wrong to think this way clearly misses why his work is so effective and inspiring.
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RUclips can suck a dick (watch this get deleted)
"It means I can do curls they're very heavy"
Every day I feel like I have finally got a grasp on what makes twitter troglodytes tick... they somehow manage to throw curve balls every single time.
peter jackson: when adapting a story, we shouldn’t insert our own baggage in it, we have to be true to the originator of the story.
post-endgame MCU writers:
we have to use this popular stories to let the world know that we are victims.
If I want indoctrination I'd join a church, not watching TV.
My philosophy has always been “I’m a game creator not a politician, my political opinion is no more valuable than any one else’s so why would I try to force them on anyone, the point of my work is entertainment and my political opinions are not entertaining.”
Wow
From 1997 to 2023 according to IMDB, Christopher Nolan hasn't had a movie where he's the director that landed lower than 7/10, his movies total 49 oscar nominations, 18 oscar wins. If you have to believe someone on a subject, why not believe the one who actually makes it work, rather than some random ass guy on the internet.
He's the only director I can think of that I've gone out of my to watched almost, if not every flim they make and I have yet to be let down personally.
Bob Iger need to see this
I liked this man already just because The Dark Knight is the best Batman. Now it's even better.
And of course the left got triggered by his words.
Remember when artists used to make people think and allowed for multiple interpretations of their work? The better art used to be those that allowed for deep thinking and feeling, not "eat my Message" like today.
He's right, how many political movies has Studio Ghibli done? and not once americans who claim they like his movies have they ever laid back and thought for more than two seconds that they live in propaganda, from princess mononoke being heavily anti war films, to environmentalist films.
People love "political" films when it fits their agenda (example: democracy dies with thunderous applause) but when it doesn't they either hate it or pretend the movie didn't say that (all the delusional americans that claim they love ghibli even though miyazaki criticizes basically every single aspect of america as a nation)
Politics is one of the best tools to construct a narrative and conflic in your stories, you are a fool to not use it.
There is a difference between a reflection of beliefs and pushing them. It's a fine line but important because dancing this it is how you can promote ideals of value to yourself to others, if such is your main desire as opposed to just telling a great story.
Ghibi works do reflect a lot of Miyazaki beliefs, but they don't actively push them on others. He also largely avoids painting the side he disagrees with as evil. Wrong or misguided perhaps, but not evil.
To that end, the true takeaway from Nolan's statement is that not everything is created or needs to be created to push political ideals. People also need to stop trying to assign universal principles as belonging to one political party or not. The power of friendship is not a right or left concept.
This is exactly what separates good movies from not so good. You just tell a story, there is no intended "message". You just want the audience to feel, something, anything. Stories don't necessarily need a purpose or conclusion, sometimes things just happen and the circumstances can themselves be thought provoking.
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“… dumb person. champion of the casual film watchers”
Well it was smart enough for Nolan to win just about every accolade in existence for film, on top of being knighted for it 🤷♀️