As you know any truck can have issues. I do believe your 450 is just one of those trucks that will always have problems. Sell it and get a ‘22 450. In today’s market you will still get top dollar for yours. You’ve been through enough super duty’s to know they get the job done. Good luck. You’ll make the right decision 👍🏼
I personally run Ram 5500’s in the sanitation field. Small rolloff container trucks that run 8-10 hrs daily & often get overloaded. Also use them to pull excavators and skid steers dry frequently for demo work. We tried out all brands in 2018 and went with the Ram. Will be ordering another soon. They simply don’t have issues. My personal truck is a 2018 Ram 5500 with 120k miles. The only thing I’ve done is routine maintenance and tires. Zero issues.
Just a thought- the way used vehicles are commanding high prices, you could order the Ram exactly how you want to spec it, try it out, then sell either the Ram or the 450, whichever you don’t prefer. Or the F350 for that matter and have two heavy haulers. You’d have options, and probably wouldn’t do bad at all on out of pocket costs given what you could sell them for. And it would be a kick-ass comparison/content for the channel!
I live at over 9k ft in Colorado. Been a Ram guy since Ford abandoned the 7.3’s. Most recently, Had a 2018 Ram 3500 DRW. Major emissions problems, truck in shop for weeks. Deleted it finally and has run great since. Followed that with a 2020 Ram 3500 HO. No real problems but hated that Asian tranny. I now run a 2022 Ford 350 for only 7k but loving the 10sp and overall power train. Ford power delivery is just superior IMO. I guess can have problems with any truck out there. I don’t tow as heavy as you, 20k every week, but at high elevation and steepest grades around. Keep the Ford!
Get the Ram, you’ll love it. I just traded my 2020 Ford F250 King Ranch 6.7 Powerstroke for a 2021 Ram 2500 Limited 6.7 Cummins and I am very happy I did. The Ford was a good truck, the 10 Speed was great, but the Ram interior is on a different level. No other brand can compare to the fit, finish and quality of the Ram interior. And I love the Cummins engine. It maybe a little slower than the Ford but thats ok cause I drive slow anyways. The exhaust brake on the Cummins is far superior to the Ford. When the full exhaust brake mode is on and as soon as you let off the gas it slows you down immediately without touching the brakes. I hated that in the Ford in order for their engine brake to work you have to tap the brakes. Anyways, give the Ram a try. Just understand that the Ram Cummins with the Aisin trans will not shift as smooth as the Ford. Other than that you’ll love the Ram. Oh and the 2021 and newer has the newly revised CP3 injection pump. So no need to worry about CP4 injection pump failures. Lastly the Ram can come with airbags from the factory.
Keep it and give it another chance. Don't think that the Ram doesn't have their own issues. I've done a ton of research and follow Ram channels since waiting on my ordered 2022 F-450 just to be sure and yes, they have some common issues as well. There are class action lawsuits against all 3 brands at the moment. Something to think about. Remember there are a TON of power stroke 6.7L on the road right now in all trims putting in the work without a glitch. There's been 2 (f350/f450) just recently on PTT w/Arod that have over 1 million (from factory) miles on them and both were hotshot trucks. Good luck with whatever you decide though man.
Agreed. And my short two cents is that you may have a bit of diagnostics to get through - but the ford definitely won’t go up in flames like a ram would. The interior may be marginally better in a ram. But it’s a work truck…and you have this one set up just like you wanted. I had some issues with my 6.7 60k miles ago, and they were a pain, but the truck has never failed me since 120k miles later and it is still in pristine shape. Oil analysis is perfect and it works hard.
We have 19 through 21 platinum 450s with 300,000 miles running strong. Even a 11 with 350,000. They are hauling 53’ goosenecks all day everyday. No major issues
I’ve owned 23 different powerstrokes of all generations, my 2016 was not very impressive, and my 6.0s were not impressive but we put hundreds of thousands of miles on all of them. All the 7.3s have been stellar for us our 6.4s after they were deleted with Spartan were stellar my wife’s 2019 is stellar my dads 2020 is stellar and my 2021 is stellar some times if you buy enough of anything you will find a bad one. All 4 of the Cummins pickups we’ve had have been major issues not so much with the engine but with everything else and I mean everything else!
Chrysler quality, the only reason the powertrain sticks around is because it’s not Chrysler. My family has a Ram, not a diesel but a Laramie. 100k kilometers and the thing is a piece of crap, the transfer case quit. The fuel system always leaks and needs to be replaced. It’s on its 3rd fuel tank if I’m not mistaken, along with countless other issues. I don’t know why we still have it. Everyone who used it bought a Ford to do the same job. It just sits, and has been for years. That truck alone is reason enough why I’ll never buy a Ram, I’ll still lease them in my fleet, but I’ll never own one. Especially a 2020+ I can’t even imagine what that will be like.
IMHO for very very heavy towing day in day out Buy ram 5500 1. Wide track front axle 2. Much higher payload than 3500 3. Bigger brakes than 3500 (more stopping power)
Personality I think your 450 is just a casualty of being built during covid hopefully your dealer can get it sorted. You’ve had 3 power strokes with no issues. Your 2020 had an emissions sensor issue which can happen to any diesel on the road today. IMO it sounds like you have more of dealer issue getting the truck sorted than a major defect on the 450 so far
I plow snow sawmill and got rid of my 3500 Dodge's way too many issues! I now have a Chevy 3500 crew cab and a Ford F350 crew cab and both have less maintence issues than the Dodges. Dodge engines are great and the truck looks nice but they fall apart with real use.... And we maintain our equipment and trucks and treat them well. I count on the trucks and equipment to make a living I Will Not hire or continue to employ anyone who misuses my equipment and jeopardizes everyone's jobs. They get hard use but not abuse!
I do appreciate the transparency. I’m a Ford user and my brothers having enough of his GMCs and has a 22 F250 Platinum on order. We both plan to go over every inch of it when it arrives and use issues you’ve had as a starting point. Granted any new truck can have issues.
I totally agree though I’d have to hook a ram up to that load you pull daily and see how it feels in comparison. The way you have the 450 geared up to your liking I’d hang onto it unless the ram blows u away or a duramax proof is in the pudding I could care less about looks. It’s like my 6 liter people hate them I just got lucky routine maintenance and she runs like a champ works hard every day
My buddies here in Western Pennsylvania in the Gas n Oil industry love the 3500 Ram, HO, aisin Tran…plenty of power, and best in class engine brake! Good luck dude! 🙌🏼
Even with emissions on tuning you can make the ford exhaust brake better. I don't have experience with a ram exhaust brake but my exhaust brake on my fords works a lot better than factory with the tuning I have.
@@workplaytv idk what they do in the tuning exactly but my exhaust brake works better than stock. I don't pull heavy stuff like you. But I pull around 12-15k and with my exhaust brake engaged it will slow me down to much sometimes. I will try to record a video and send it to you on Instagram. I don't have Facebook. With you being in Canada you have a lot of great tuning options. Look up dirty diesel customs online.
My dad was a long time Ford guy and I finally pushed him to ram. He can’t believe the lack of issues he’s had since he got into his 2018 3500. Besides routine maintenance he’s only had a squeak on his driver door hinge (fixed it with a quick blast of fluid film) and his rear sliding window was moving slow and it needed a little lubrication and it was fine. The only thing that kills me is he doesn’t wash it and “baby” it like he did his fords, yet this truck is the nicest one he’s owned 🤦🏻♂️ (it’s a limited model)
My 2021 F350 SRW XLT with 21,xxx miles has been great so far. Fit and finish is acceptable on mine but for what you paid I would expect perfection too. As far as to keep it or get rid of it idk that will have to be your decision. If I ever changed brands it probably would be a ram for me as well. I hope the 450 works out for the better for you.
You definitely need to get a Ram in front of that trailer. A 3500 Aisin with 4.10 gears is exactly what you need. My family has always bought Fords but I switched in 99. I finally got my dad to switch in 2019 and now he questions why he waited so long. Trust me, I bust his balls often lol. He always neglected his truck but now he washes and cleans the interior at least every 2 weeks. I asked him why and he said " because this is the truck I plan to keep". Rams are a far simpler design which make them much easier to work on. Extremely important especially when you rely on your truck to help make you money. As you know, the exhaust brake is incredible and will slap your head on the windshield if needed. Guys routinely go well over 100K miles without needing to replace brakes since the exhaust brake works so well. Like anything, maintenance is key. Keep the oil, fuel, and transmission filters changed and you'll be rewarded with extremely long service life. Ram has always had their quirks but I believe that began to change with the 2014+ update. There's a reason many consider the later 4th Gen Rams as the best trucks ever made. They went backwards a bit in 2019 & 2020 when they went to a CP4 but quickly changed that in 2021. They are now recalling all CP4 trucks to replace the pump which no other manufacturer has stepped up to do. That decision has went a long way in the minds of Ram owners.
Ram doesn't make the powertrain . a 3500 ram with 4.10s and a 6 speed isn't going to tow better than a 450 with a 10 speed 4.30s. You said you switched in 99 those old dodge trucks were garbage everyone I've seen the dash is falling apart and had transmission issues.
@@mattd19902010 Why does it matter who makes the powertrain? You need to go Ram if you want their package. Ford only decided to manufacture their own diesel when they got into a dispute with Navistar over who should foot the bill for warranty repairs. Unlike the Ford/Navistar relationship, Ram/Cummins have stuck with the same basic engine architecture since the beginning of their partnership.The Cummins is simply a well built workhorse designed for longevity that responds extremely well to power upgrades. While Im not going to compare a Ram 3500 to a Ford 450, the 6 spd Aisin is plenty stout, geared damn near perfectly to the low revving Cummins, and will pull a heavy load all day every day without complaint.
I have a Chevy Silverado 2500 series 6.6 Duramax, 10 speed Alison, 11,350GVWR, 27,500GCVWR, Payload 3,067. We own a dumpster rental company. Our average trailer weight is 10,220lb. 22,000 miles a year towing each truck. Very happy with these trucks. (We have two). Because of CDL and regulatory requirements, we stay under 26k pounds. My down side is the turning radius is terrible.
ive changed brands from ford to Ram due too serious issues with Ford but I couldn't be happier switching brands but that's your choice but id get rid of that 450 for sure quick ..Cheers Bro..
I had a similar rattle in my F450. My noise was from the panel that covers the passenger side mirror. Removing and reinstalling fixed mine. I think RAMs are beautiful looking trucks. I moved to Ford after 3 terrible experiences with RAM. Terrible dealer service. Repeated visits for same issues. Trim falls off. Constant issues with the front suspension.
Maybe you should do a side-by-side comparison of Dodge, Ford, and Chevrolet! After all, what better test than the workout you'll give it? You should ask the 3 big manufacturers to supply a truck to test it out on your channel. And with the winner goes the spoils.
There’s a channel called I’m an operator . He regularly tows over 30K with his Ram . It should help you in your decision making process. He tows extremely heavy equipment.
@@workplaytv If you decide to pull the trigger Aisin Transmission is the only way to go! There is chatter about Ram switching to Allison transmissions also ?
I work at the plant your truck was built .....for over 27 years now.....i do the exterior fits like the hood,doors,tailgate......there is a "spec" that we go by on flushness and margins....you actually want a little over flush front to back to prevent wind noise...but i will admit the spec is not tight enuff....especially on flushness...but that is managements call.....hopefully the dealer makes it right for yoy
I’ve had both. A few years ago I had a 2018 ram Cummins 4x4 crewcab 5500 flatbed with the G56. Not a single issue, just got bored and wanted to try something else. And just a few months ago had a 2020 Ford F-350 (srw) 4x4 crewcab power stroke. Ford would beat it in a race, but the dodge would beat in reliability. My ford was finicky and temperamental. My dodge never had a single issue. Obviously any truck can have any issue, but the new fords worries me long term. I tow my mini, dump, equipment trailer daily. I sold the 2020 and just went back to an old slow 7.3 power stroke. Won’t win any races and ain’t as comfortable, but still gets the job done. Ask, dodge has a waaaay better exhaust brake towing. And I mean you feel it. Fords barely does anything. You would love it. Dodge does de rate their 5500 motors, that would be the only downside
@@workplaytv you could try a Ram 3500 just for curiosity n variety or you could trade on a 22 f450 , I personally think you got a lemon but who knows, or you could lose the DPF/EGR n all n see what happens but that wouldn’t take care of cosmetic lemon issues haha
I don’t haul like you and Sam do! That being said, I run an 02 F350 and have never had any issues. I researched all three in 2017 and ended up with a 2018 Ram and am very happy with it. The exhaust brake was the single greatest feature of my truck. If Ram ever comes out with a 10 speed trans in 22/23/24, I’d buy another Ram. My friends have Fords and Chevys that have way more power but I don’t really need it but I’m sure some do. Good luck my friend👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Owed both...work matters....Ford has more pros then cons for me.....crap happens. Unforseen circumstances befall us all..✌now go get a great bowl if chicken 🐔 soup.Stay warm 😋
You’ll have a better chance finding Shangri-la then finding any brand truck without having issues at some point. I owned Everything but Ram and they all had some issues. Including Toyota which are only good for 1/2 ton use. Moving up to haulers I went with the 2020 F250 6.7 w heavy towing package spec. close to F350. No issues to date but there will be one day. Looking at new Rams today, I would consider them against Ford after I get my mileage and moneys worth out of the Ford I have. Your new lake house is unbelievable. You found a piece of Shangri-la there.
Ide pick the ram. I do honestly wish they would upgrade to an 8-10 speed trani. “Fingers crossed there still working on a deal with Allison 🤞” But the Cummins has enough low end grunt it never really struggles. That and the wide track axle would be a nice option for the 3500’s but no dice 🤷♂️ Either way I would definitely recommend test driving one first
I have a 2020 Raptor and have had a few of the same irritating issues. Under warranty it’s had two turbos replaced, the screen for the radio keeps going in and out the leaf springs are creaking. I am looking at buying a HD truck for an RV. I love the power of the new HO Power Stroke 1,200 foot pounds of torque! Hopefully they have fixed that EB issue.
I think the ram 3500 would be an awesome truck. Its sad to lose trust to ford, but sometimes it happens. All of us have lost trust to a certain brand of car or truck at some point. But thats the beauty of the industry. There are many options that suits everyone.
After years of ram ownership, I bought a 2020 F350 only took 800 miles to get rid of it. I currently have a 350 with a 7.3 gas and love it. If I was hauling firewood every day it would definitely be a ram with cummins, hands down. I believe PD Diesel's channel should be a testimony to why guys that tow steady buy ram
Honestly it’s a 2020/2021 issue. Across the board. I wouldn’t switch at this time. At some point honestly give the ram a try,but switching right now might just be trading one demon for another. Also it could be the best decision. That’s just my opinion, do what is best for you.
You’re 100% right, all of the trucks have way more issues than what should be. If the people in the factories weren’t limited, if the truck could actually be finished in one day and if it got picked up by the shipper the next rather than the way it had been. This F450 would 100% be as solid as his 350 and F550 as there are no differences between the trucks other than the conditions at the factory. Ram will be the same way, that’s not even a question.
He won't be "switching right now" in all probability. New trucks are taking forever to get built and delivered. Unless he finds one sitting on a lot somewhere he's gonna be waiting for months.
Paid the money for it, got the long warranty, has your personal specs. You'll loose money on a trade, or even if you broke even or made some the hassle of getting one, and unless you order wont be what you want. Use the difference and buy an older reg cab 6.7 powerstroke or cummins as a backup truck for the f450, and even the f550, so if you got to get warranty work it doesn't matter as much.
Just from experience, bought a 2012 ram 3500 with a Cummins. Put 400k on it over 4 years. Nothing but maintenance it's whole life. I know the current owner truck has 600k on it. Nothing but maintenance.
I've got a 17 450 platinum. Love it. The pros outweigh the cons for sure. Engine and trans are the huge part that make this truck the best to me. The power is unreal.i have only towed around 12k and it feels like nothing is back there. A few negative is the drivers door never has shut right doesn't leak or anything just the lines aren't perfect. Sometimes the backup sensors acted up after disconnecting a trailer. Othere then that not much at 94k right now. Thing to remember is this is a work truck with luxury, not a luxury truck.
A nice hotel is wonderful. But nothing beats your own kitchen and your own bed. That's what happens when you drive another truck, your just spending time in the hotel. It's nice for a while. But there's nothing like home.
I personally run ram 5500’s in oil & gas often hauling heavy. I will say if you’re looking for luxury stick with your Ford if you want power train reliability ram will be the way to go. Although ram does now offer limited trim package up to the 5500’s now so I guess you could get luxury through ram as well.
I thought of you the other day.....I was talking to a couple of Mopar guys.I asked them about the reliability of Ram with Cummins. They told me of lots of emission issues. Said your best bet to delete it then you are laughing. I know your Ford hasn't been great but I don't know if Ram will be the trouble free answer you are looking for.Good luck
I had an 18 Ram 2500 and a 20 Ram 3500 SRW with the HO and Aisin. Used them to tow equipment at work and pull my travel trailer and later my 5th wheel. Work trailers ranged from 8k to 17k lbs. 5th wheel is 16.5k lbs. The 18 Ram had no issues save for a few electronic glitches in the gauge cluster. I just didn’t like how the 68RFE shifted and sometimes didn’t respond. 68RFE definitely did not like heavy loads. Anything over 8k lbs and it’s like it forgot how to shift. The 20 Ram 3500 was night and day. The Aisin is not a smooth operator empty but once you have a load behind it, it’s awesome. Exhaust brake is so strong it feels like it’ll give you whiplash. I did have an issue with a bad 4wd actuator about 12k miles in, it would randomly toggle 4hi without me doing anything. I could be in the middle of a turn or cruising down the road when my RPMS would shoot up and next thing I know it says I have 4wd on and “service 4wd system”. Only other complaint I have with the 3500 is the god-awful paint quality. You can look at it the wrong way and it will chip. If you get the Ram I suggest getting either chrome bumpers or PPF all over the rockers and frontal area. My truck was delmonico red and it was a beautiful color, but about 10k miles in it looked like crap. My current truck is a 22 F350 SRW. The transmission in this truck is light years ahead of anything Ram has. I’m sure you already know this but it handles everything I’ve thrown at it with no issues or weird behavior. It’s hard to say which one pulls stronger but I think I’d have to give the edge to the ford. The Aisin feels like a lifetime between shifts with the defueling. The Ford body and paint also seem to be much better. I’ve got 15k miles on my F350 now and there is not a single chip or scratch on the truck. I’ve put it through the same use cycle as my Rams. The new 12” screen in the Fords is also laid out much better than Ram’s vertical orientation. About the only issue with my truck is the driver’s door is not aligned with the passenger door behind it. Very minor nitpick and you’d have to be looking very closely to notice it. Same as your 450 in that regard. Otherwise this truck has been flawless thus far. I haven’t had a chance to test drive the new 21-22 Rams with the CP3 and 1075 ft-lbs of torque but for now I’m gonna say the Fords are superior
I run a 2021 ram 5500 as my everything truck. Hotshotting, daily driver, hunting truck etc and have put on 52,000 km since I got it in April. The one thing I can really complain about with my truck is that the thing regens all the time 🤦🏻♂️ and a complaint me, my dad and I’m sure many others could make is the Aisin transmission can feel weird shifting without a load behind the truck. Once there is a trailer behind it the shifting etc is awesome and tbh the heavier the better it reacts.
Honestly I would get a ram because I heard so many people talk about how good the exhaust brake is and the reliability on them are insane every time I’m on the road I always see a ram towing 20,000 to 30’000 trailers on the road daily but if you got a warranty on the Ford then I would have the dealer fix the light and go over it to be safe
Without a second thought, I would be driving a freightliner and have the trailer as a lowboy style. Down low deck, and twin screws would be close to four wheel drive as you seen there, four wheel drive didn't keep you from being sucked into the low side of the road. You have many decent choices of engines, transmissions including automatic and now days hard to find a standard in big rigs as well. I am a Kenworth kind of guy but going on Gentry and sons, they run a lot of freightliners for small truck jobs including a single screw rear end. I have a feeling that most of small equipment operators on on paper to the bank so I would rather have a good truck for it all. They make a quad cab or sleeper cab depending just what you like for this application. I also am a ford man and have been since I put a million miles on a F350 7.3 ... a 95 model with every bell and whistle and no problems, I really don't know how far those engines go but that that truck is still on the road with a better body and no issues yet.
Yeah this is my daily and I spend a lot of time on the road. Not much fun trying to get into hotels, restaurants and these tight tower roads with the freightliner
If you need the turning radius, you will not be happy with the ram, I had the 2016 3500HO aisin 4.10 dually, on the highway towing 30000 the ram feels more planted, city and side roads the wide front axle and 10 speed from the Ford takes the cake
At the municipality I work for and all the other municipalities in the greater area run nothing but F350's and F450's. Was talking to my fleet mechanic and he said Fords are the only trucks they buy because of how they are build and their maintenance. Most of these are trucks are base model work trucks but the build quality and maintenance is all the same weather it is a XL or Platinum.
If you swap go for a 4500 chassis cab so you can keep the wide front and put a hauler bed like the one on big trucks big rv The limited chassis cab look soooo good
Get the Ram. U need the exhaust brake on those hills. The ram is a little slower empty but towing their equal and might actually be a little faster going up those hills. I don’t know why keep harping about the ram won’t pull a hill under heavy loads. Dude that’s what Cummins is known for.
Im more a Ford powerstroke guy For heavy duty stuff, but the other side of me would love to see you get a ram so we have a real world comparison VS Ford. Also, if the ford keeps letting you down, dont let Brand Loyalty keep you miserable, trade that sucker in. Hopefully you get the issues worked out Soon.
Wait for the new 10 speed Ram to come out. That's what I'm doing. I Have a 2020 ford f350 now, and love it. I also have a 2018 ram 3500 with the manual transmission. Best engine breaking power forsure.
Not sure I'd want ANY brand of late 2020/any 2021 truck. Hearing about lots of quality/mechanical/fit/finish issues from owners of all brands. Maybe stick it out for another year or so and hope they get their manufacturing/parts shortages/employee issues resolved... With the Ram, I'd be more concerned more about how it goes up the hill than how the Ford goes down it...
3500’s are a bit pricey right now (markups and considering what trim level you’d want to be comparable to a Platinum) so I’d wait until things settle down. If money isn’t an issue I’d go for it if you’re that unhappy and can’t get things remedied with your local Ford dealer, AND don’t mind losing the wide front axle.
I had a 21, loved it pulling.. had an issue with an glow plug that was it. Messed my neck up had to have emergency surgery and in the process couldn't afford my payment. Sold the truck and miss it terribly.. drove the ram 3500 but just didn't have the pulling I was looking for
Sell the 450 and get another 450. Keep the 10sp and widetrack. 2 things I wish i had in my Ram 3500. Ram3500 has issues. My 21 3500 just hit its 4tch check engine light which is annoying af.
Every truck is going to have its issues! I think you’d miss the 10 speed. But you also can’t have the F450 breaking down on you and constantly in the shop
Get ready to wait if you order a new truck. Unless you happen to find one sitting on the lot somewhere that they won't try to charge 10 or 20 grand over sticker price.
Electronics usually fail early on if they're going to, then they should be solid. The power distribution block overheat is a bit more disconcerting. I'm wondering if the trailer brake circuit runs through that block, because that was a problem on our 550. Ford hadn't sized the harness properly for a triple axle gooseneck and it couldn't supply the proper voltage to the trailer brakes.
Soooo...option 3...which I'm sure you have contemplated ....if necessary trade the Corona truck in for a new Ford....for me...you are back to where you would have been without the Corona. Win. Win. In my extremely humble opinion.... Ha
Those cummins Rams are just brute pullers. For the everyday guy who likes pickups most can get away with any of them. For what guys like you do, Ram seems to be king.
I'm in manufacturing and can tell you that all have struggled to find and keep good people the last 2 years. It wouldn't surprise me if you if yours was put together in one of those periods....maybe lemon law it or sell it with prices being high. I would think the dealer would help since you have so many. I have a 22 f450 on order now and may be biased 😆
The Cummins will pull almost as good as the Ford But you will really like the exhaust brake of the Cummins but you will hate and despise the transmission of the ram
Ok to start I get bent , when I am willing to spending $90,000 US dollars and Ford & ram will not let me hook up a trailer and drive a short 8% grade to test the towing, $80-$100,000 IMO I should be able to test drive asking how they all pull? I truthfully can’t find a difference between Ford, ram , Gmc till it’s towing down hill or in city traffic, ram has the exhaust brakes down , hopefully you get those evil gremlins fixed by Ford As it’s IMO the middle child of work trucks, the best of both worlds
I honestly think you just got a lemon. Me too at that, haha. I had a 450 at one point. and absolutely loved having the wide track steering. That made a huge difference for hauling a trailer for me...the 10 speeds are phenomenal, too. I'd sell that thing outright and get a 2022 f450...the way the used market is, dealerships won't give crap on trade ins then sell them for more than they were brand new. You didn't/haven't had these problems with you 550 and your 2020 srw....get rid of this one and get a new one, make ford buy it back lol
Yeah, I’ve never heard of any of these issues he is having. His 2020 did have an issue, but overall a very solid truck. I would also say go for another one.
I bet I could have that issue down the road with the fuse box. I haven't driven nearly as much as you 🤔. I wonder if it's something that's happening but I'm not aware of it yet 🤔
Sorry this is going to be a long winded post... My 2 cents. I've owned all 3 big brands, GM is great for passenger comfort and dependable but they held off on keeping up with the towing wars and are just getting into the heavy hauling like ram and ford and they have some catching up when it comes to exhaust break the 10 speed is too new to rely on the way you do and sure I would confidently say that give the GM engineers some time to line everything out and they will be a truck to watch out for. government contracts because they have teams of technicians on hand to fix and maintain them regularly
Had the same noise issue on our 2021. After months of trying to figure out the noise, we pushed the weather stripping in harder and the noise went away.
I understand truck has issues one thing to consider is North America made And who has the highest NA content in truck Example there are great Canadian footwear companies why do people buy from communist china? Vote w dollars take back power
As you know any truck can have issues. I do believe your 450 is just one of those trucks that will always have problems. Sell it and get a ‘22 450. In today’s market you will still get top dollar for yours. You’ve been through enough super duty’s to know they get the job done. Good luck. You’ll make the right decision 👍🏼
A 22 would be just as bad. All the companies have newbies right off the street building 100k trucks now. Nothing has changed since 2020.
I personally run Ram 5500’s in the sanitation field. Small rolloff container trucks that run 8-10 hrs daily & often get overloaded. Also use them to pull excavators and skid steers dry frequently for demo work. We tried out all brands in 2018 and went with the Ram. Will be ordering another soon. They simply don’t have issues. My personal truck is a 2018 Ram 5500 with 120k miles. The only thing I’ve done is routine maintenance and tires. Zero issues.
Just a thought- the way used vehicles are commanding high prices, you could order the Ram exactly how you want to spec it, try it out, then sell either the Ram or the 450, whichever you don’t prefer. Or the F350 for that matter and have two heavy haulers. You’d have options, and probably wouldn’t do bad at all on out of pocket costs given what you could sell them for. And it would be a kick-ass comparison/content for the channel!
I live at over 9k ft in Colorado. Been a Ram guy since Ford abandoned the 7.3’s. Most recently, Had a 2018 Ram 3500 DRW. Major emissions problems, truck in shop for weeks. Deleted it finally and has run great since. Followed that with a 2020 Ram 3500 HO. No real problems but hated that Asian tranny. I now run a 2022 Ford 350 for only 7k but loving the 10sp and overall power train. Ford power delivery is just superior IMO. I guess can have problems with any truck out there. I don’t tow as heavy as you, 20k every week, but at high elevation and steepest grades around. Keep the Ford!
Get the Ram, you’ll love it. I just traded my 2020 Ford F250 King Ranch 6.7 Powerstroke for a 2021 Ram 2500 Limited 6.7 Cummins and I am very happy I did. The Ford was a good truck, the 10 Speed was great, but the Ram interior is on a different level. No other brand can compare to the fit, finish and quality of the Ram interior. And I love the Cummins engine. It maybe a little slower than the Ford but thats ok cause I drive slow anyways. The exhaust brake on the Cummins is far superior to the Ford. When the full exhaust brake mode is on and as soon as you let off the gas it slows you down immediately without touching the brakes. I hated that in the Ford in order for their engine brake to work you have to tap the brakes. Anyways, give the Ram a try. Just understand that the Ram Cummins with the Aisin trans will not shift as smooth as the Ford. Other than that you’ll love the Ram. Oh and the 2021 and newer has the newly revised CP3 injection pump. So no need to worry about CP4 injection pump failures. Lastly the Ram can come with airbags from the factory.
If you care about the interior you probably don't need a truck
Keep it and give it another chance. Don't think that the Ram doesn't have their own issues. I've done a ton of research and follow Ram channels since waiting on my ordered 2022 F-450 just to be sure and yes, they have some common issues as well. There are class action lawsuits against all 3 brands at the moment. Something to think about. Remember there are a TON of power stroke 6.7L on the road right now in all trims putting in the work without a glitch. There's been 2 (f350/f450) just recently on PTT w/Arod that have over 1 million (from factory) miles on them and both were hotshot trucks. Good luck with whatever you decide though man.
Agreed. And my short two cents is that you may have a bit of diagnostics to get through - but the ford definitely won’t go up in flames like a ram would. The interior may be marginally better in a ram. But it’s a work truck…and you have this one set up just like you wanted. I had some issues with my 6.7 60k miles ago, and they were a pain, but the truck has never failed me since 120k miles later and it is still in pristine shape. Oil analysis is perfect and it works hard.
We have 19 through 21 platinum 450s with 300,000 miles running strong. Even a 11 with 350,000. They are hauling 53’ goosenecks all day everyday. No major issues
Do you get them deleted?
I have a 21 ram 3500 and a 21f450 and I cannot get rid of the Ram fast enough we own a hotshot trucking company so we put alot of miles on.
You are talking out you ass bro. Nothing in your channel either. Oh well
I’ve owned 23 different powerstrokes of all generations, my 2016 was not very impressive, and my 6.0s were not impressive but we put hundreds of thousands of miles on all of them. All the 7.3s have been stellar for us our 6.4s after they were deleted with Spartan were stellar my wife’s 2019 is stellar my dads 2020 is stellar and my 2021 is stellar some times if you buy enough of anything you will find a bad one. All 4 of the Cummins pickups we’ve had have been major issues not so much with the engine but with everything else and I mean everything else!
Chrysler quality, the only reason the powertrain sticks around is because it’s not Chrysler. My family has a Ram, not a diesel but a Laramie. 100k kilometers and the thing is a piece of crap, the transfer case quit. The fuel system always leaks and needs to be replaced. It’s on its 3rd fuel tank if I’m not mistaken, along with countless other issues. I don’t know why we still have it. Everyone who used it bought a Ford to do the same job. It just sits, and has been for years. That truck alone is reason enough why I’ll never buy a Ram, I’ll still lease them in my fleet, but I’ll never own one. Especially a 2020+ I can’t even imagine what that will be like.
IMHO for very very heavy towing day in day out
Buy ram 5500
1. Wide track front axle
2. Much higher payload than 3500
3. Bigger brakes than 3500 (more stopping power)
Yeah I have a 550 as well but man they are so slow due to being derated and sometimes want a 5500 for a daily
Get yourself a Ram 4500 - love it. Have 1993 Cummins / 2007 Cummins and new all with over 250,000 miles no issues
Personality I think your 450 is just a casualty of being built during covid hopefully your dealer can get it sorted. You’ve had 3 power strokes with no issues. Your 2020 had an emissions sensor issue which can happen to any diesel on the road today. IMO it sounds like you have more of dealer issue getting the truck sorted than a major defect on the 450 so far
I plow snow sawmill and got rid of my 3500 Dodge's way too many issues! I now have a Chevy 3500 crew cab and a Ford F350 crew cab and both have less maintence issues than the Dodges. Dodge engines are great and the truck looks nice but they fall apart with real use.... And we maintain our equipment and trucks and treat them well. I count on the trucks and equipment to make a living I Will Not hire or continue to employ anyone who misuses my equipment and jeopardizes everyone's jobs. They get hard use but not abuse!
Love my Ram 3500 2015 Laramie with 207,000 miles and runs awesome!!
I do appreciate the transparency. I’m a Ford user and my brothers having enough of his GMCs and has a 22 F250 Platinum on order. We both plan to go over every inch of it when it arrives and use issues you’ve had as a starting point. Granted any new truck can have issues.
I totally agree though I’d have to hook a ram up to that load you pull daily and see how it feels in comparison. The way you have the 450 geared up to your liking I’d hang onto it unless the ram blows u away or a duramax proof is in the pudding I could care less about looks. It’s like my 6 liter people hate them I just got lucky routine maintenance and she runs like a champ works hard every day
My buddies here in Western Pennsylvania in the Gas n Oil industry love the 3500 Ram, HO, aisin Tran…plenty of power, and best in class engine brake! Good luck dude! 🙌🏼
I say trade it for Cummins 3500. I love that truck as well
Even with emissions on tuning you can make the ford exhaust brake better. I don't have experience with a ram exhaust brake but my exhaust brake on my fords works a lot better than factory with the tuning I have.
Please share I have been doing some research
@Carl S I have a 2022 ford f450 regular cab let me know how to make the exhaust brake better
@@workplaytv idk what they do in the tuning exactly but my exhaust brake works better than stock. I don't pull heavy stuff like you. But I pull around 12-15k and with my exhaust brake engaged it will slow me down to much sometimes. I will try to record a video and send it to you on Instagram. I don't have Facebook. With you being in Canada you have a lot of great tuning options. Look up dirty diesel customs online.
@@carls2210 awesome that would be helpful
@@carls2210 what is your Instagram
My dad was a long time Ford guy and I finally pushed him to ram. He can’t believe the lack of issues he’s had since he got into his 2018 3500. Besides routine maintenance he’s only had a squeak on his driver door hinge (fixed it with a quick blast of fluid film) and his rear sliding window was moving slow and it needed a little lubrication and it was fine. The only thing that kills me is he doesn’t wash it and “baby” it like he did his fords, yet this truck is the nicest one he’s owned 🤦🏻♂️ (it’s a limited model)
My 2021 F350 SRW XLT with 21,xxx miles has been great so far. Fit and finish is acceptable on mine but for what you paid I would expect perfection too. As far as to keep it or get rid of it idk that will have to be your decision. If I ever changed brands it probably would be a ram for me as well. I hope the 450 works out for the better for you.
With the outrageous price of a truck these days everything should be PERFECT on them..no flaws whatsoever!!
Love my truck!!
give the ram a try, you know you want to,lol. personally a Ford guy but can’t hurt to try one right
You definitely need to get a Ram in front of that trailer. A 3500 Aisin with 4.10 gears is exactly what you need. My family has always bought Fords but I switched in 99. I finally got my dad to switch in 2019 and now he questions why he waited so long. Trust me, I bust his balls often lol. He always neglected his truck but now he washes and cleans the interior at least every 2 weeks. I asked him why and he said " because this is the truck I plan to keep".
Rams are a far simpler design which make them much easier to work on. Extremely important especially when you rely on your truck to help make you money. As you know, the exhaust brake is incredible and will slap your head on the windshield if needed. Guys routinely go well over 100K miles without needing to replace brakes since the exhaust brake works so well. Like anything, maintenance is key. Keep the oil, fuel, and transmission filters changed and you'll be rewarded with extremely long service life.
Ram has always had their quirks but I believe that began to change with the 2014+ update. There's a reason many consider the later 4th Gen Rams as the best trucks ever made. They went backwards a bit in 2019 & 2020 when they went to a CP4 but quickly changed that in 2021. They are now recalling all CP4 trucks to replace the pump which no other manufacturer has stepped up to do. That decision has went a long way in the minds of Ram owners.
Ram doesn't make the powertrain . a 3500 ram with 4.10s and a 6 speed isn't going to tow better than a 450 with a 10 speed 4.30s. You said you switched in 99 those old dodge trucks were garbage everyone I've seen the dash is falling apart and had transmission issues.
@@mattd19902010 Why does it matter who makes the powertrain? You need to go Ram if you want their package. Ford only decided to manufacture their own diesel when they got into a dispute with Navistar over who should foot the bill for warranty repairs. Unlike the Ford/Navistar relationship, Ram/Cummins have stuck with the same basic engine architecture since the beginning of their partnership.The Cummins is simply a well built workhorse designed for longevity that responds extremely well to power upgrades.
While Im not going to compare a Ram 3500 to a Ford 450, the 6 spd Aisin is plenty stout, geared damn near perfectly to the low revving Cummins, and will pull a heavy load all day every day without complaint.
Drove a ram all over the country you won't be disappointed
I have a Chevy Silverado 2500 series 6.6 Duramax, 10 speed Alison, 11,350GVWR, 27,500GCVWR, Payload 3,067. We own a dumpster rental company. Our average trailer weight is 10,220lb. 22,000 miles a year towing each truck. Very happy with these trucks. (We have two). Because of CDL and regulatory requirements, we stay under 26k pounds. My down side is the turning radius is terrible.
Ram 5500 turning radius is amazing 👏
ive changed brands from ford to Ram due too serious issues with Ford but I couldn't be happier switching brands but that's your choice but id get rid of that 450 for sure quick ..Cheers Bro..
I had a similar rattle in my F450. My noise was from the panel that covers the passenger side mirror. Removing and reinstalling fixed mine.
I think RAMs are beautiful looking trucks. I moved to Ford after 3 terrible experiences with RAM. Terrible dealer service. Repeated visits for same issues. Trim falls off. Constant issues with the front suspension.
That’s where I am too, but the Ram is gorgeous. Props to the designers, though it doesn’t make me want one more
The Ram has an exhaust brake that actually works. From one of your other videos, I saw that was an issue
Maybe you should do a side-by-side comparison of Dodge, Ford, and Chevrolet! After all, what better test than the workout you'll give it? You should ask the 3 big manufacturers to supply a truck to test it out on your channel. And with the winner goes the spoils.
There’s a channel called I’m an operator . He regularly tows over 30K with his Ram . It should help you in your decision making process. He tows extremely heavy equipment.
Oh yeah we have been chatting
@@workplaytv If you decide to pull the trigger Aisin Transmission is the only way to go! There is chatter about Ram switching to Allison transmissions also ?
I work at the plant your truck was built .....for over 27 years now.....i do the exterior fits like the hood,doors,tailgate......there is a "spec" that we go by on flushness and margins....you actually want a little over flush front to back to prevent wind noise...but i will admit the spec is not tight enuff....especially on flushness...but that is managements call.....hopefully the dealer makes it right for yoy
Hey man awesome info thanks
I’ve had both. A few years ago I had a 2018 ram Cummins 4x4 crewcab 5500 flatbed with the G56. Not a single issue, just got bored and wanted to try something else. And just a few months ago had a 2020 Ford F-350 (srw) 4x4 crewcab power stroke. Ford would beat it in a race, but the dodge would beat in reliability. My ford was finicky and temperamental. My dodge never had a single issue. Obviously any truck can have any issue, but the new fords worries me long term. I tow my mini, dump, equipment trailer daily. I sold the 2020 and just went back to an old slow 7.3 power stroke. Won’t win any races and ain’t as comfortable, but still gets the job done.
Ask, dodge has a waaaay better exhaust brake towing. And I mean you feel it. Fords barely does anything. You would love it. Dodge does de rate their 5500 motors, that would be the only downside
Yeah I have a 550 and it’s so slow compared to the 450.
@@workplaytv you could try a Ram 3500 just for curiosity n variety or you could trade on a 22 f450 , I personally think you got a lemon but who knows, or you could lose the DPF/EGR n all n see what happens but that wouldn’t take care of cosmetic lemon issues haha
I don’t haul like you and Sam do! That being said, I run an 02 F350 and have never had any issues. I researched all three in 2017 and ended up with a 2018 Ram and am very happy with it. The exhaust brake was the single greatest feature of my truck. If Ram ever comes out with a 10 speed trans in 22/23/24, I’d buy another Ram. My friends have Fords and Chevys that have way more power but I don’t really need it but I’m sure some do. Good luck my friend👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Owed both...work matters....Ford has more pros then cons for me.....crap happens. Unforseen circumstances befall us all..✌now go get a great bowl if chicken 🐔 soup.Stay warm 😋
You’ll have a better chance finding Shangri-la then finding any brand truck without having issues at some point. I owned Everything but Ram and they all had some issues. Including Toyota which are only good for 1/2 ton use. Moving up to haulers I went with the 2020 F250 6.7 w heavy towing package spec. close to F350. No issues to date but there will be one day. Looking at new Rams today, I would consider them against Ford after I get my mileage and moneys worth out of the Ford I have.
Your new lake house is unbelievable. You found a piece of Shangri-la there.
My uncle had this truck and sold it right away because he had tons of issues and he got a ram and he loves it and he was a Ford guy.
sounds like my story..lol
Ide pick the ram. I do honestly wish they would upgrade to an 8-10 speed trani. “Fingers crossed there still working on a deal with Allison 🤞” But the Cummins has enough low end grunt it never really struggles. That and the wide track axle would be a nice option for the 3500’s but no dice 🤷♂️
Either way I would definitely recommend test driving one first
I’m really happy with my 2020 GMC 3500 but if I had to buy another truck I would really consider the 2021 Ram since they went back to the CP3 pump.
I have a 2020 Raptor and have had a few of the same irritating issues. Under warranty it’s had two turbos replaced, the screen for the radio keeps going in and out the leaf springs are creaking.
I am looking at buying a HD truck for an RV. I love the power of the new HO Power Stroke 1,200 foot pounds of torque! Hopefully they have fixed that EB issue.
I think the ram 3500 would be an awesome truck. Its sad to lose trust to ford, but sometimes it happens. All of us have lost trust to a certain brand of car or truck at some point. But thats the beauty of the industry. There are many options that suits everyone.
After years of ram ownership, I bought a 2020 F350 only took 800 miles to get rid of it. I currently have a 350 with a 7.3 gas and love it. If I was hauling firewood every day it would definitely be a ram with cummins, hands down. I believe PD Diesel's channel should be a testimony to why guys that tow steady buy ram
Honestly it’s a 2020/2021 issue. Across the board. I wouldn’t switch at this time. At some point honestly give the ram a try,but switching right now might just be trading one demon for another. Also it could be the best decision. That’s just my opinion, do what is best for you.
You’re 100% right, all of the trucks have way more issues than what should be. If the people in the factories weren’t limited, if the truck could actually be finished in one day and if it got picked up by the shipper the next rather than the way it had been. This F450 would 100% be as solid as his 350 and F550 as there are no differences between the trucks other than the conditions at the factory. Ram will be the same way, that’s not even a question.
He won't be "switching right now" in all probability. New trucks are taking forever to get built and delivered. Unless he finds one sitting on a lot somewhere he's gonna be waiting for months.
Paid the money for it, got the long warranty, has your personal specs. You'll loose money on a trade, or even if you broke even or made some the hassle of getting one, and unless you order wont be what you want. Use the difference and buy an older reg cab 6.7 powerstroke or cummins as a backup truck for the f450, and even the f550, so if you got to get warranty work it doesn't matter as much.
Oh damn this is tough you want a hard working truck .
No matter what you decide I will continue to support your channel and you do what best for you.
Just from experience, bought a 2012 ram 3500 with a Cummins. Put 400k on it over 4 years. Nothing but maintenance it's whole life. I know the current owner truck has 600k on it. Nothing but maintenance.
I've got a 17 450 platinum. Love it. The pros outweigh the cons for sure. Engine and trans are the huge part that make this truck the best to me. The power is unreal.i have only towed around 12k and it feels like nothing is back there. A few negative is the drivers door never has shut right doesn't leak or anything just the lines aren't perfect. Sometimes the backup sensors acted up after disconnecting a trailer. Othere then that not much at 94k right now. Thing to remember is this is a work truck with luxury, not a luxury truck.
Oh and the wheels are kind of a cheap knockoff. The chrome is starting to bubble
In all fairness, Ram uses the same wheels. But that doesn’t justify it
A nice hotel is wonderful. But nothing beats your own kitchen and your own bed. That's what happens when you drive another truck, your just spending time in the hotel. It's nice for a while. But there's nothing like home.
I personally run ram 5500’s in oil & gas often hauling heavy. I will say if you’re looking for luxury stick with your Ford if you want power train reliability ram will be the way to go. Although ram does now offer limited trim package up to the 5500’s now so I guess you could get luxury through ram as well.
I thought of you the other day.....I was talking to a couple of Mopar guys.I asked them about the reliability of Ram with Cummins. They told me of lots of emission issues. Said your best bet to delete it then you are laughing. I know your Ford hasn't been great but I don't know if Ram will be the trouble free answer you are looking for.Good luck
Give the ram a try. But maybe wait until the 2023 when there's allegedly supposed to be a major update.
I had an 18 Ram 2500 and a 20 Ram 3500 SRW with the HO and Aisin. Used them to tow equipment at work and pull my travel trailer and later my 5th wheel. Work trailers ranged from 8k to 17k lbs. 5th wheel is 16.5k lbs.
The 18 Ram had no issues save for a few electronic glitches in the gauge cluster. I just didn’t like how the 68RFE shifted and sometimes didn’t respond. 68RFE definitely did not like heavy loads. Anything over 8k lbs and it’s like it forgot how to shift.
The 20 Ram 3500 was night and day. The Aisin is not a smooth operator empty but once you have a load behind it, it’s awesome. Exhaust brake is so strong it feels like it’ll give you whiplash. I did have an issue with a bad 4wd actuator about 12k miles in, it would randomly toggle 4hi without me doing anything. I could be in the middle of a turn or cruising down the road when my RPMS would shoot up and next thing I know it says I have 4wd on and “service 4wd system”. Only other complaint I have with the 3500 is the god-awful paint quality. You can look at it the wrong way and it will chip. If you get the Ram I suggest getting either chrome bumpers or PPF all over the rockers and frontal area. My truck was delmonico red and it was a beautiful color, but about 10k miles in it looked like crap.
My current truck is a 22 F350 SRW. The transmission in this truck is light years ahead of anything Ram has. I’m sure you already know this but it handles everything I’ve thrown at it with no issues or weird behavior. It’s hard to say which one pulls stronger but I think I’d have to give the edge to the ford. The Aisin feels like a lifetime between shifts with the defueling. The Ford body and paint also seem to be much better. I’ve got 15k miles on my F350 now and there is not a single chip or scratch on the truck. I’ve put it through the same use cycle as my Rams. The new 12” screen in the Fords is also laid out much better than Ram’s vertical orientation. About the only issue with my truck is the driver’s door is not aligned with the passenger door behind it. Very minor nitpick and you’d have to be looking very closely to notice it. Same as your 450 in that regard. Otherwise this truck has been flawless thus far. I haven’t had a chance to test drive the new 21-22 Rams with the CP3 and 1075 ft-lbs of torque but for now I’m gonna say the Fords are superior
I run a 2021 ram 5500 as my everything truck. Hotshotting, daily driver, hunting truck etc and have put on 52,000 km since I got it in April. The one thing I can really complain about with my truck is that the thing regens all the time 🤦🏻♂️ and a complaint me, my dad and I’m sure many others could make is the Aisin transmission can feel weird shifting without a load behind the truck. Once there is a trailer behind it the shifting etc is awesome and tbh the heavier the better it reacts.
Get the RAM! Cummins is the way to go.
I’d say give the ram a try I don’t think you’ll be disappointed
I love Ford! But damn why are we staring at a check engine light! 😭
You’re 450 has been solid, no? I’m pretty certain he just got a bad one
@@americantrucknation4891 maybe bad luck 🤔 but I will say he uses his truck a lot more than me 🤔
Honestly I would get a ram because I heard so many people talk about how good the exhaust brake is and the reliability on them are insane every time I’m on the road I always see a ram towing 20,000 to 30’000 trailers on the road daily but if you got a warranty on the Ford then I would have the dealer fix the light and go over it to be safe
Without a second thought, I would be driving a freightliner and have the trailer as a lowboy style. Down low deck, and twin screws would be close to four wheel drive as you seen there, four wheel drive didn't keep you from being sucked into the low side of the road. You have many decent choices of engines, transmissions including automatic and now days hard to find a standard in big rigs as well. I am a Kenworth kind of guy but going on Gentry and sons, they run a lot of freightliners for small truck jobs including a single screw rear end. I have a feeling that most of small equipment operators on on paper to the bank so I would rather have a good truck for it all. They make a quad cab or sleeper cab depending just what you like for this application. I also am a ford man and have been since I put a million miles on a F350 7.3 ... a 95 model with every bell and whistle and no problems, I really don't know how far those engines go but that that truck is still on the road with a better body and no issues yet.
Yeah this is my daily and I spend a lot of time on the road. Not much fun trying to get into hotels, restaurants and these tight tower roads with the freightliner
If you need the turning radius, you will not be happy with the ram, I had the 2016 3500HO aisin 4.10 dually, on the highway towing 30000 the ram feels more planted, city and side roads the wide front axle and 10 speed from the Ford takes the cake
At the municipality I work for and all the other municipalities in the greater area run nothing but F350's and F450's. Was talking to my fleet mechanic and he said Fords are the only trucks they buy because of how they are build and their maintenance. Most of these are trucks are base model work trucks but the build quality and maintenance is all the same weather it is a XL or Platinum.
If you swap go for a 4500 chassis cab so you can keep the wide front and put a hauler bed like the one on big trucks big rv
The limited chassis cab look soooo good
No matter the brand, there is always a chance you'll get a lemon. I know many guys that won't go near a ram after owning one.
It's all a crap shoot.
My f150s drivers door is the same. Buy a 5500 ram and put a Branford built bed on the back. Watch ostactuiser videos out west and build one like that.
Get the Ram. U need the exhaust brake on those hills. The ram is a little slower empty but towing their equal and might actually be a little faster going up those hills. I don’t know why keep harping about the ram won’t pull a hill under heavy loads. Dude that’s what Cummins is known for.
Im more a Ford powerstroke guy For heavy duty stuff, but the other side of me would love to see you get a ram so we have a real world comparison VS Ford. Also, if the ford keeps letting you down, dont let Brand Loyalty keep you miserable, trade that sucker in. Hopefully you get the issues worked out Soon.
I would get the Ram, I bought a 2020 ram 3500 last year and it has been great.
Wait for the new 10 speed Ram to come out. That's what I'm doing. I Have a 2020 ford f350 now, and love it. I also have a 2018 ram 3500 with the manual transmission. Best engine breaking power forsure.
Not sure I'd want ANY brand of late 2020/any 2021 truck. Hearing about lots of quality/mechanical/fit/finish issues from owners of all brands. Maybe stick it out for another year or so and hope they get their manufacturing/parts shortages/employee issues resolved... With the Ram, I'd be more concerned more about how it goes up the hill than how the Ford goes down it...
3500’s are a bit pricey right now (markups and considering what trim level you’d want to be comparable to a Platinum) so I’d wait until things settle down. If money isn’t an issue I’d go for it if you’re that unhappy and can’t get things remedied with your local Ford dealer, AND don’t mind losing the wide front axle.
I had a 21, loved it pulling.. had an issue with an glow plug that was it. Messed my neck up had to have emergency surgery and in the process couldn't afford my payment. Sold the truck and miss it terribly.. drove the ram 3500 but just didn't have the pulling I was looking for
Ram 5500 is a perfect for working truck ... for heavy loads ..
Time for a Ram ! Then give straight up review.
Sell the 450 and get another 450. Keep the 10sp and widetrack. 2 things I wish i had in my Ram 3500. Ram3500 has issues. My 21 3500 just hit its 4tch check engine light which is annoying af.
Every truck is going to have its issues! I think you’d miss the 10 speed. But you also can’t have the F450 breaking down on you and constantly in the shop
Get ready to wait if you order a new truck. Unless you happen to find one sitting on the lot somewhere that they won't try to charge 10 or 20 grand over sticker price.
Its a pain to switch and get a new truck, however I would give it one more chance. if another fail then I would start the process.
Electronics usually fail early on if they're going to, then they should be solid. The power distribution block overheat is a bit more disconcerting. I'm wondering if the trailer brake circuit runs through that block, because that was a problem on our 550. Ford hadn't sized the harness properly for a triple axle gooseneck and it couldn't supply the proper voltage to the trailer brakes.
Soooo...option 3...which I'm sure you have contemplated ....if necessary trade the Corona truck in for a new Ford....for me...you are back to where you would have been without the Corona. Win. Win. In my extremely humble opinion.... Ha
you should do a vlog with v belt and sons. Fly out to his place and test it.
22 F450. You'll make money if you sell private. Or break even with the dealer. Plus you'll get the bigger screen!
Those cummins Rams are just brute pullers. For the everyday guy who likes pickups most can get away with any of them. For what guys like you do, Ram seems to be king.
I'm in manufacturing and can tell you that all have struggled to find and keep good people the last 2 years. It wouldn't surprise me if you if yours was put together in one of those periods....maybe lemon law it or sell it with prices being high. I would think the dealer would help since you have so many. I have a 22 f450 on order now and may be biased 😆
Get a ram 3500!
The Cummins will pull almost as good as the Ford But you will really like the exhaust brake of the Cummins but you will hate and despise the transmission of the ram
I bet driving by your father's house and him see you is for surely proud if you and your hard work and smart decisions. ..Get it !
Thanks man!
Coming close to 3000rpm can't be good for anything. That is an issue in the computer allowing the motor to get spinning that fast.
Nah that won’t hurt anything
Give the F450 a chance. Its like having that crazy girlfriend that drives you nuts sometimes and other times she rocks your world.
Hahahaha
Ok to start I get bent , when I am willing to spending $90,000 US dollars and Ford & ram will not let me hook up a trailer and drive a short 8% grade to test the towing, $80-$100,000 IMO I should be able to test drive
asking how they all pull? I truthfully can’t find a difference between Ford, ram , Gmc till it’s towing down hill or in city traffic, ram has the exhaust brakes down , hopefully you get those evil gremlins fixed by Ford
As it’s IMO the middle child of work trucks, the best of both worlds
I honestly think you just got a lemon. Me too at that, haha. I had a 450 at one point. and absolutely loved having the wide track steering. That made a huge difference for hauling a trailer for me...the 10 speeds are phenomenal, too. I'd sell that thing outright and get a 2022 f450...the way the used market is, dealerships won't give crap on trade ins then sell them for more than they were brand new. You didn't/haven't had these problems with you 550 and your 2020 srw....get rid of this one and get a new one, make ford buy it back lol
Yeah, I’ve never heard of any of these issues he is having. His 2020 did have an issue, but overall a very solid truck. I would also say go for another one.
Get a Ram 3500 DRW
Dodge Ram seems to be the best truck being made at the moment
I bet I could have that issue down the road with the fuse box. I haven't driven nearly as much as you 🤔. I wonder if it's something that's happening but I'm not aware of it yet 🤔
As soon as you start to see some weird electrical shit check it out
@@workplaytv I'm curious to look to see if anything is starting. Did you have plastic wheel well liners?
@@DS-TRUCKS whatever you choose from factory yes
Keep it! Send it back to get fixed and use that warranty. Do you have a lemon law in Canada?
My 21 never pulls down lower than 2100 rpms flat-footed except in 3rd gear. Some reason it likes to hang in 3rd and not shift down to 2nd.
Nice trailer!
Get a ram my dad has a 21 3500 dually with air suspension thing is a beast
I would buy a Chevy before ever consider buying a new Dodge. My truck order is Ford, GMC, Chevy, whatever else you can think of and then Dodge
Sorry this is going to be a long winded post...
My 2 cents. I've owned all 3 big brands, GM is great for passenger comfort and dependable but they held off on keeping up with the towing wars and are just getting into the heavy hauling like ram and ford and they have some catching up when it comes to exhaust break the 10 speed is too new to rely on the way you do and sure I would confidently say that give the GM engineers some time to line everything out and they will be a truck to watch out for.
government contracts because they have teams of technicians on hand to fix and maintain them regularly
Had the same noise issue on our 2021. After months of trying to figure out the noise, we pushed the weather stripping in harder and the noise went away.
Trade that in get new 450 you got lemon get it in white
I understand truck has issues one thing to consider is North America made
And who has the highest NA content in truck
Example there are great Canadian footwear companies why do people buy from communist china? Vote w dollars take back power