DOCTOR WHO Episode 1 ... YUCK
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
- Space Babies, Episode 1 of Doctor Who was a rough start to what seems like a New New Who series.
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Outro Music - "Cradles by Sub Urban" 
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Ok I was wrong. Apparently, BOGEY in British CAN mean mucus as well. I don't know why that is not in the dictionaries. They usually have an "
alt meaning" listed for English definitions for British words, but I couldn't find it for this case. I had to dig deep after a few of you corrected me. I took it way more literally than the machine lol.
My thing is... if it's a slang... but the prominent meanings are anything but boogers, why would the machine choose that of all things? I guess it had mucus and then the story of the bogeyman and assumed that's what it should be. Ah who knows. I stand corrected.
Because the prominent meaning of a bogey in England for the past 30-40 years is snot and mucous, and the bogeyman is a snot monster that will come for children if they pick their nose (or too much).
Whilst Dr Who is watched by the world, its primary demographic is us, the English, and our mannerisms and colloquialisms. And a lot of those aren't around the world.
Now the original bogeyman was a spirit that came to get naughty children, and thats where it evolved from.
I will give you another example- a wet.
A wet sounds like something wet, but it actually means both having a cup of tea or stabbing someone.
British English is real English - the gibberish you speak is a primitive dialect premised upon rustic living far away from centres of civilisation!
The reason that it's not in the dictionary is because it's not really proper english but rather a scottish slang term for booger.
You can find it in the Urban Dictionary.
Its a word thats ususlly associated with something bad(except in golf for some reason). Might be why the Military use it to describe hostile aircraft i.e. the bad guys e.g "bogey at 10 oclock"
I suppose thats one good thing from the episode, to delve into the possible origin of words n characters by associating bogeys/boogers and the bogeyman/boogeyman. Chances are its just a play on similar words and that the2 have no connection whatsoever but makes you wonder if thats part of the reason for the creation of the bogeyman (a fictional evil entity created to scare kids) in order to scare kids into not picking their nose(an act that in itself that is seen as bad) or else the bogeyman will come n get you, but then over the years the reason for the bogeyman became generalised n expanded to other bad behaviours to scare kids into being good. Probably not but its fun to speculate.
Stuff like this is what I USED to like about Doctor Who in that it taught you cool little historical facts, now though not so much.
Instead though they just played it up for cheap laughs n a lame explanation for the monster because bogey's a funny word...atleast to children n people who laugh at fart jokes😂
@@BIGDaddioJohnB That's a fantastic perspective! I love movies and shows for that reason too. However, I find that the newer Doctor Who episodes are much less cerebral than what was common in the past. Now they seem to rely mostly on cheap jokes that break the canon, which are meant to be temporary comic relief. It's a bit confusing lol.
Russell has always been like this though, remember the burping trash bin and the farting slitheen in his first series? I am not a fan of it either
"The doctor is an unfathomably old alien who has been tormented by a terrible war."
"The doctor is a quirked up flamboyant brainlet with magic science powers."
A _bit_ of tonal whiplash.
That's just a perfect way of explaining this... Reboot?
Abomination from the deep depths of man?
Yes Troughon and Pertwee were bit of a tonal whiplash from Hartnell IMO.
@@leiftastad490 That... Doesn't even compare ANY WAY in the SLIGHTEST... I just... No... I'm revoking your comment's argument... you get no argument... good day...
I like your gentle yet brutal slap down. Well done
@Videogeek95 how is it not a tonal whiplash. The 2nd Doctor is so completely tonaly different from Hartnell. And Pertwees Doctor pulls so much "magic science power" bullshit like in Inferno when he can just make the tape disappear. He also dresses in extremely flamboyant and over the top suits for the time. You saying some stupid shit about you can't even argue just shows you have no fucking idea what your talking about. Every Doctor is so tonally different from one other that they can really do whatever they want. They even talked about how he had time to sit down and heal as the 14th so it makes sense for the next one to be a little more over the top.
12:34 -skin outside the body
Me: Looks down at my disgusting, skin-covered hands.
"Why am I like this!?"
Hahaha I laughed when she accidently got this back to front.
Join me. Reject flesh, embrace skeleton
@@Johnf2022 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don't know why this made it funnier! Goddamn show is making me dumber than I already am
@@SpookSkellington 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@Alteori The only correct use of that emoji
The adopted thing is the Timeless Children arc. It was awful and retconned the whole backstory of the Doctor and made a lot of plot holes. It fractured the whole fanbase.
When continuity no longer matters, the story itself no longer matters. So why should anyone keep watching what doesn't matter?
And Chibnall didn't take the criticism well. He destroyed the universe (The Flux) over it.
And then Bi regeneration...
Snowballing (sexual practice), the act of spitting semen into a partner's mouth after oral sex. Doctor Who mentioned this in an episode
@@charlieb308Really? I'm not a prude but.....
That one baby: *Uses a literal flame thrower on the monster*
Also that same baby: You’re hurting him! 🥺🥺🥺
Out of context this is hilarious
I.. the name of the doctor is really important. Like him having a name. Is a plot point in like. 5 seasons. They can’t just retcon the entirety of trensalore like that
They've already retconned his entire backstory before including the regeneration limit that was so important for so long. Hell, bigeneration itself was a new concept made specifically to toss all the "baggage" right in the bin according to RTD himself.
They don't care about the continuity in the slightest. This is an entirely new character wearing the trappings of a dead franchise like a morbid skin suit.
They can do anything they like and this is only the first ever episode of the first ever series, as if that isn't confusing enough.
The new director just said few days ago: we don't talk about the other doctors at set anymore. We want to look forward and not back.
doctor who has never been shy about retconning. the daleks were originally wiped out before they ever left their own city on skaro and could easily be immobolised just by breaking their contact with the floor. the origins of the cybermen have changed a few times. regeneration has been retconned.
@@haruyasumi616 retcons itself are not the problem. Its why and how. Look at 40k right now.
Bad Hollywood makes for great RUclips
Modern Greek tragedy for modern philosophers to ponder who are mostly diogenes archetype.
Dr Who is British, not American.
Thai has nothing to do with Hollywood
@@no.9516Disney funded it
I have a weird theory. David Tennent's doctor was, and still is, the fan favorite, so they brought him back as an audience stand in to lecture. They brought him back as a punishment for all the dislike of the writing of Jodi Whitaker's doctor, so they could lecture the audience into liking these new iterations of the doctor with an audience stand in.
And it didn't work, glad this dumpster fire is falling apart.
Its not a theory thats what happened. One simple way to proof it was the line during the holiday special where they claim a male doctor would never give up power, except one did after he saved rose. So they blatantly ignored lore to shite on him
Probably for you guys that just rage
I want to point out before I sleep and being only a minute or so in to say he was never adopted or not given a name. He has a name, but only says it to those he trusts on his life and he is just a time lord that hated what his people did after seeing the vortex at a young age. The Timeless Child incident ruins so much that it makes my brain deny it. He might be adopted by his people with a timeless orphanage, but he has a name, not given a title. He gave that to himself.
If I remember correctly wasn’t his name something of a taboo? Like he traded his name for the universe or something. I don’t know been a long time since I saw the ep about his name.
He (she at the time) was adopted by Tecteun in "The Timeless Child."
@@seanryan3020 The timeless child is a complete RE-WRITE of the entire lore changing everything established previously which is why people hates it and don't consider it cannon, it is basically taking a dump on 60 years of history.
Yes and it was the Dr. as a male child at the vortex with the master. So how come the original Dr. is now shown as a black women in one of the Jodie Whittaker episodes. They get writers that don't know shit about the show or the lore.
Just like Disney and Star Wars. All this to push an agenda.
@@MoonPhantom It doesn't matter whether you like it or not (and for the record, I also hate it). The fact is that it happened.
For anyone who doesn’t know. Some lore. Most was fucked up.
Every version of the doctor has core traits that span his many lives. Like his no guns/ no killing rule.
His personality is like sliders in a character creation menu, each new life randomizes the parts. Making each unique.
One version can be very snarky and cold, while another is more empathetic and soft. No two doctors are the same personality wise.
The appearance was random, so they could have new actors. But most dressed well, and had a consistent feature in the beginning. White British guy. Now that was retconned to be anything writer wants.
They had limited lives. Basically 13 lives total, die 13 times. Perma dead. But each life could live a super long time, even if they looked old. With each new respawn wiping their memories for a short while, making them rediscover themselves each time. Finding hints on who they are.
This was changed. Before if they wanted to heal someone/ revive them. They gave away an extra life. Making it go from 13 to 12 lives they could live.
But it was retconned to be, they have infinite lives. We want to continue the show forever fuck you.
There’s no stakes. I miss when it was good. When they would make a monster that’s fucking terrifying. Shadows that consumed you, weeping angels, robots bent on killing all organics.
They were fun. Scary, but fun.
Spiders that eat reality.... :D I legit loved the racnoss.
Ncuti has moments where he is the Doctor bonafide, but not always, give him time!!
there was a case before for @5:00 the doctor gave regeneration energy to Davros (capaldi)
Ncuti did it to resurect the butterfly, like how other doctors burped regeneration energy (11th old on the clocktower)
false mate... I've only been a whovian since 2012 but I know this timeless child retcon OR the disney reboot are NOT the end of Who... they are minor bumps like Flux was
@@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 You do know Doctor Who was canceled before right? For about 20 years. I've been a whovian since Baker. Yes it can indeed die. Ratings then were double of what it has been and it was canceled. The difference is they did it when the writing got bad instead of dragging on with bad writing and calling everyone names for no longer watching it.
@@debanydoombringer1385 I know about the history and Colin Baker , not Tom, stands in my top 4. And yes I AM GLAD and thankful that the show hasn't been cancelled again. Lived through that capaldi era , whereas he could have done so much more. Jo Martin as the Doctor instead of Jodie would have been cool but Jodie and the Flux storyline if they fix it as i imagine can be quite fun in restrospect
0:55 That's because it was a retcon right at the end on Jodie Whitiker's run.
The Doctor is now originally little black girl from another universe that was killed countless times to give the gallifreyans their regeneration powers.
That's... Dark... Geez...
“THE MESSAGE” is all that matters! Dr Who truly died.
Christopher Eccleston doctor was the first one I believe that made the connection on the cell phone so that way Rose could contact her mother while she was in the future. I can't recall if I was ever done in the original who I don't believe it ever was, so he was the very first doctor to do it.
Eccleston was right that RTD would be the downfall of the series.
I don’t think any doctor before CE did the cell phone thing because cell phones weren’t widespread before the 90s
@daisyviluck7932 That's exactly what I thought, I was born in the 80s, so I remember the brick cell phone.
TECHNICALLY the 8th doctor(Paul mcGann) had the functionality of the TARDIS phonebox to call anywhere, but that lore was only done in 2018 in the audio "Their Finest Hour". Christopher Eccleston was the first to use that functionality on a cell phone, only a New Who thing.
Disney pitch meeting: hey boss, I reckon if we attack the audience, multiple times, pay journalists to attack the audience because of their sex, race, sexual preference, that will put loads of bums on seats, watching our dei.
Boss: what a brilliant dei idea.
Telling the people who we expect to give us money they're racist is TIGHT!
No fan of Dr Who wanted a musical.
These people hate the franchises they are running.
Huge Doctor Who fan. musicals are fine.
The issue is this has the energy of, "LOOK HOW DIFFERENT WE ARE!!! ARE WE DIFFERENT YET???! ARE WE STUNNING AND BRAVE?!?!?"
NO SUBTLY.
Musical number here and there is cool, but not as the new genre......
Doctor Who has done a musical before. Look up Doctor Who and the Pirates
Actually I’ve always wanted a musical episode. HOWEVER, these new episodes don’t really do it for me. The music is quite minimal and only at the end is when they have a group number. But these group numbers just do not make sense in universe. I think they really missed an opportunity to do a full blown musical. I don’t actually want the doctor and companion to sing, but I would like to see them in a situation where they can’t stop singing, bit like ‘Teen Beach Movie’.
They retconned the Doctor's origins during Jodie's run. Also the actor for the new Doctor talked about wanting to defeat monsters with twerking and dead-drops
And they haven't stop vandalizing since then
Just you wait, it will happen...
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Like when GRM said about the dragons in GoT, yeah fat chance.
EXCELLENT WORK. AITEORI DOCTOR WHO DISASTER
so glad I only managed to watch 2 or 3 episodes with Jodie. Having watched the original episode in 1963 it breaks my heart what they have done
The telephone was explained in the original reboot as the phone linking trough the Tardis as a relay in the time stream after the doctor messed with it.
And the language thing was explained a lot easier in that one too.
And it was neve shown that the Docto could remotely disable the translator.
@@Jackson-ub1uv true, it was provided direcy by the Tardis, not by the doctor.
@@Jackson-ub1uv This was a dumb move from RTD, all he had to do was buzz his sonic as we already know it's a remote control for the TARDIS... But no now it's implied that the Doctor can telepathically control functions of the TARDIS...
Start ass pulling abilities like this and the Sci-Fi starts to fall apart... Like the absolutely moronic idea to allow the sonic screwdriver to produce a shield... -_-
Thank you for confirming my choice. They told the fans to go out and touch grass. Now i am rewatching old anime. The Gundam series rock!!
And given how long that's been running, you won't run out any time soon
I know I haven't
Witch one? There are like 6 thousand billions Gundam series by now.
I hope you watch Iron Blood Orphans, its my favorite 😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢😢
The Doctor isn't adopted. His father is a Time Lord and his mother was a human. During Jodie's run, there was an episode called "The Timeless Chid" which attempted to recon the Doctor's origin as "being from another universe" but it was rejected by the fans. The showrunners have refused to change it, which is why it gets referrenced here.
tbf the Ulysses and Penelope being the Doctor's parents aren't exactly canon. they're side stories that have never been confirmed in the show
The Doctor doesn't have parents, he was woven in the Loom of Lungbarrow.
@@insane_trollLungbarrow isn't confirmed canon either, the concept of Time Lords being clones is very much unconfirmed
They're just playing with a corpse now.
"stop it he's already... DEAD!!! 😭"
What color scheme is the necrophilia flag?
Weekend at Bernie's style
I dont thats playing...
Everything Disney touches...
Turns to 💩
Was already shit when Jodie forced her way in by being friends with the director.
Well no, it's this social engineering that is destroying everything it touches.
@@benwarwick4290 and Disney's a willing vector.
I used to love Disney when they made stuff like Mary Poppins. But that was a very long time ago. The talent left/died and was never replaced.
No, just no, and never more.... Doctor Who is dead, it has been since Capaldi
I like to believe he’s still dreaming trapped by the dream crab
Capaldi got robbed from being the best Doctor since the first one and Tenth.
Its really nice they decided to soft reboot it. When it fails you can just invite professional writer and director, and continue from the last season. Writing off this "soft reboot" as a bad dream. And female doctor as doctor's middle life crisis.
Honestly The Doctor Falls or Twice Upon a Star are incredible finales. Might have to head canon some things around but that's sadly when Doctor Who ended.
Tennant is still the doctor, this guy is the clone imo
falsely equating being the last member of his species with every human being unique but not alone
flirting constantly and never meaning anything by it
babies being worried they cant develop properly and him lying to them
how do the babies get dressed properly but still not walk around?
a timelord who feels neither pain nor ambition nor lust, but still pretends that his company is a gift?
shitting on the butterfly effect, realizing you broke history, then using MAGIC to alter all of history, then never admitting you were wrong
this is how you teach people that there is no right and wrong, no good and bad. this is nihilism. disney has gotten their way: the doctor is a princess, and nothing matters except that you tune in next week.
oh the being adopted thing is part of the jodie whittaker arc
as that involves the stupidest plot called The timeless child
which is basically saying like Goku went back in time to become adam to all the saiyans or something like that with being portrayed as a black girl being oppressed and actually saying that "ACTUALLY the Doctor was a black woman BEFORE she was a white man for 2,000~ years!" then reverse donna noble's sacrifice and made it into a woke message (idk what you call that but it was basically that) then later split the doctor in two and say some random thing that was never talked about called "Bi regeneration"
which is stupid honestly and russel decided to continue that plot with the timeless child and dig the doctor who grave deeper...
and i'm sad how this is being dragged deeper and deeper in the grave😢
No single doctor who fan liked timeless children. It was a retcon people hate with passion
@@Shineinpoverty I also honestly think... Trying to make it so grand an important makes it less charming.
The original origin of the Doctor is incredibly charming by itself. He was an old man, and a rebel that didn't really fit into his world, who stole a time machine just so he could go explore the universe with his grand daughter. And the Time Lords hated him for it because he broke all of their conventions through hat single act of rebelliousness because he wanted to see the world. So now he always have to run from them as they will always be trying to reign him back in.
THAT background story is so simple, so charming, so easy to understand. I just explained it to you in a small paragraph.
The new origin is just confused and pretentious, it's hard to explain and there's no charm at all. It just sucks.
Actually, it was Goku's father who went back in time and became the ancestor of the saiyans in that one DBZ movie.... and everyone agrees that was incredibly stupid.
@@Alondro77 yeah but my point being is like making the main character like goku or the doctor into this person that caused everything about their race to be made in existence
which is so so so so so stupid and most fan fiction writing I ever seen and has no reason to happen for the main character and shouldn’t even work for their goals in life 🤢🤮
@@Shineinpoverty dude I’m sorry to say, that russel. The man who back doctor who in 2005 came back to nostalgia bait us with David coming back for the special but instead to not explain why he’s back and give us a woke message and belittles David’s doctor for being a man and reverses Donna noble’s great story of never seeing/knowing him again or she’ll die and says “I’m fine bcuz I’m binary and my non binary daughter is being affected as well but she can save us” and then belittle the doctor for being a man who can never let things go then they still after all of THAT! Russell makes the timeless child arc CANON….
Doctor who isnt doctor who anymore after Peter capidale (sorry for my horrible typing and misnaming)
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Old sci fi had sound guns, and were in story able to harmlessly knock a lerskn off their feet and makd unconscious.
6:04 The first thing The Doctor normally does when meeting an unknown creature is scanning it with the Sonic Screwdriver. Where is the screwdriver?
7:22 The only place to make phone calls across the universe is within the Tardis.
His new screwdriver honestly looks like a buttplug and I wonder if that's a coincidence or not.
The doctor can actually modify a cell phone to make calls outside of the current time. They make a point of this with the 9th doctor. Rose checks her phone when they are at the end of the life of earth, and comments that she has no reception, joking about how she's probably out of range "just a bit". Then the doctor sonics her phone and she is able to call her mother while on the space station, outside the tardis.
However, this doctor doesn't seem to use a sonic screwdriver, so unless they explain it some other way...not sure how that's accomplished.
I don't like how The Doctor is just magic/Jesus now. The Doctor was never able to just resurrect things, the couple of times he did was by siphoning off regeneration energy, and now it's just "He can do it though."
cause they made him a super special unique time god now in the chibal great flux recon.
so he dosent need science to do things anymore hes got the POWERS himself.
oh what that it still totally undermines the dr as a scientest character in ways even rick and morty does bettter?
oh well.
Oh dear.
Doc Who is no longer a walking corpse. Its now ashes being blown in the wind.
The "sonic screwdriver". I had to pause because i honestly thought that was a buttplug.😂
Thinking back to one of my favorite episodes, the Library two-parter, when River apologizes profusely before whispering the Doctor’s name to him to get him to trust her and how much weight that moment is given by David Tennant’s performance, how we understand it’s a monumental thing for this woman to know his real name. Now he’s just throwing it out there Willy-nilly? And the reason he introduces himself as “the Doctor” is because it’s the name he chose as a promise, not some formal address that goes away when you become friends with him. It continues to feel like badly written fan fiction & I’ve given it all the chances I can bear at this point.
The thing about him being adopted comes from the Timeless child. Where he fell through that Rift and was found by the woman on Gallifrey who took him in as her own. And then tested on him or her killing them multiple times to have them regenerate to then eventually take the Regeneration ability and make the time Lords. So if I remember correctly the title of the doctor was given to him by himself he came up with his own name. Please correct me if I am wrong on that but I could have sworn it was mentioned before that he picked the name of the doctor.
They made him into Space Moses. Set adrift down the river. Picked up and raised by the evil empire. Next he has to meet his people and lead them to the promised land.
"Some look like Japanese characters"
Japan has three alphabets, Kanji is Traditional Chinese (the Doctor says Cantonese but that's a spoken language, not a written one 😂).
It’s written and spoken all over Hong Kong beside English and Mandarin so yeah , but that doesn’t deny the fact that he looked like he doesn’t know ow WTF he was talking about anyway 😂
They could put real gibberish in there, or spend 2 seconds on Google translate to put Chinese that makes sense.
Instead they decide to push random Chinese characters in there because woo, so exotic for the British viewers. Peak cultural appropriation right there.
It's called season 1 because this isn't Doctor Who anymore and they're proud of it.
So it wasn't Dr Who anymore when Series 1 cane out either?
@@robotx9285 You mean the very first one in the 60s? That's the only time, other than this, that it was called season 1. I know you think what you said was witty, but it's just stupid. How could something never done before be "anymore" when it never existed before that?
@debanydoombringer1385 Rages baiting is boring now.
You're either trolling or illiterate.
One thing that seriously annoys me about media these days: why is it that almost every time we (black people) show up...we're always gay or lesbian? Tv shows, movies, comics, you name it.
I'm not suggesting this is how it played out, but if you have an outspoken black writer in a room full of mostly progressive white people, and this person asks, "why not make this character black?", everyone in the room will fold out of fear of being labeled racist. If you have an outspoken gay person in the room, and they ask, "why not make this character gay?", everyone in the room will fold out of fear of being labeled homophobic. What I'm getting at, is that if a small number of outspoken people in the decision chain suggests a character change like this, then it's relatively easy to sway the opinion of the rest of the writers and the executives who are extremely sensitive to accusations of discrimination. Unless there's a compelling reason to NOT make them black, gay, Muslim...etc (like if the source material specifies the character is X, Y, or Z), then a few people can easily make this change.
Because of the two-for-one rule. It's a lot simpler than you think. DEI rules say inclusivity is always better. That's why you see more black women in media now, because you check mark the 'black' and 'woman', rather than just a black man. Works with other races too. So if the Doctor became black I'm not surprised they made him gay to add another check mark. They really could just make him bisexual though, that's kinda canon when you remember Captain Jack Harkness. DEI People think they hit the trifecta when they come across lesbian colored women. 🙄
I knew this episode was going to be awful the moment they did the whole "explain the tardis and Doctor's backstory". Not the fawning sickeningly over babies constantly, not the absurd attempt to save the literal bogeyman for some reason, it was the exposition dump.
Remember the first episode of the revived era-Rose? Written by Russell T. Davies. Who also wrote...Space Babies. Huh...
The episode Rose slowly explained things, getting us hooked first before explaining it all. It built the Doctor as a mystery, slowly drawing us in with the plot and the 9th Doctor's personality. Then they dropped the information over time and only when the character Rose asked.
Rose kept us hooked and we took the exposition in when it arose naturally. A good way to get the audience to understand the key concepts in a fun way without overloading them in a dull and boring manner. Quick, effective, kept the audience engaged. And this was not even RTD's best work but he still did the essentials well back in 2005.
Space Babies did the opposite. It dumped it all at once, in a very long and very dull explanation. Gatwa's performance was energetic but it was still an info dump so lazily done that I was nearly falling asleep
RTD, you have lost me. And not because you could do better, but because you HAVE DONE BETTER.
About RTD writing some of those old and everyone's loved episodes. The thing I learned pretty well about
this industry is that people often work TOGETHER on things. So, one script can be credited to 2 or more people.
There was some guy who worked along with RTD who definitely contributed to those awesome stories.
G. Lukas, Sillber, and many more. They all worked with less known but many as talented people who
together, turned their work into beautiful timeless pieces of culture.
I no longer think about a single director or writer when I think of some of my most favorite movies and TV.
because many times the person who is known to be the one to bring it to us is just one of those who should
be credited for that.
The bogey man in this story is an allegory of a paedophile. One who prays on children. It's not their fault, they were made that way and apparently we should look after and cherish them! Another example of the twisted morals of the writer. And seemingly endorsed by Disney and the BBC.
@@Shineinpovertythanks for reminding me that a lot of shows follow this. I forgot that not all shows rely on just one or two writers.
Still, I would have hoped RTD had years of experience to call from. Either he somehow forgot all that, or too many people were allowed to put ideas on the table.
And for whatever reason, the writing team based on this episode leaves a lot to be desired. I won't pretend the 2005 had the best stories from the get-go, but the Revived era definitely started stronger than this series has.
I'm looking at this episode and I can't help think about new earth, and the cities that launched themselves into the sky to find new homes when the earth was about to be destroyed. I feel like back then we would've had a space nursery with robot nannies taking care of the children waiting for the human parents to arrive. Where something happened to the parents so now the doctor has to fend off against whatever killed the parents. With Russell T. Davis, the show needed a checks and balance to help keep things grounded and interesting.
Also I see what you mean with the info dumps. I remember bad wolf and how that word was sprinkled throughout the entire season. Here is just wow this happen twice something must be going on.
but now days you cant have info sprinkled over time, it has to be compressed to the length of a tiktok (literally thats it, they have to include a set amount of scenes that can be perfectly clipped for tiktok)
Remember when doctor who came back in the first place the Doctor took Rose was to the end of the world. Where the earth was going to be destroyed by the sun, and the last remaining human was just a piece of skin with eyes. I miss those times.
WTF is up with stepping on the butterfly? The point of time travel into the past is that it has always happened. The Doctor has always gone and crushed the butterfly, not crushing it would change the timeline. This was a plot point for the Tenent Vesuvius episode. THE DOCTOR CAUSED THE DEATH OF POMPEII! He blew up the mountain to kill the aliens inside. but at the beginning of the episode he knows the volcano explodes which was the reason to take Katherine there, so she wouldnt cause trouble. theoretically the doctor could travel to the future and read about his timeline future actions (basically read his own biography), because he has and will always follow the path he does...
Wibbly wobbly timey whimey my arse. there has to be a deliberate thought to not cause a paradox.
Humans evolved from mammals. Their ancestors were alive in the time of the dinosaurs. Insects evolved into other insects. It was bollocks like the whole stupid cmap mess of a show. Remember when it was an actual Scifi show?
There's been loads of time travelling villains who tried to change history to wipe out humanity, and they killed loads of things. The rule was that they had to do something major to change history. If it was easy like in this show, basically the daleks would have already done it everywhere.
guess we gotta say fuck it to the 10ths "wibbly wobbly timey wimmie" explanation thanks to the 15th.
@@markenetube then you disagree with that quantum position given?
@@BrettCaton over time something minor can grow into something major.
My god the writing..
What was bad about it
@@ghostporu3181 Well, did you watch the video?
@@Nabekukka did you watch the episode?
There was writing? I didn't notice
@@Me-rv1tw No, haven't seen it yet, why?
26:02 British people often say "Bogie" when referring to boogers, rather than "Boogie".
Interesting, so I'm guessing their dictionary is different than that of the USA. I was of the impression that the English dictionary covered them too. Maybe I am wrong 😅
Not even often say, it's almost 100% what we say...
There's a children's book I read as a child called 'Fungus the Bogeyman'
@@Animalistic9 I remember that book. Makes me nostalgic. And yeah, bogey is a common childish word for snot.
@@justlisten203 such a good memory that came back to me through this comment! But yeah dried snot. I wonder how it originated though?
@@Alteori "so I'm guessing their dictionary is different than that of the USA"
Well, yeah, ours is the original, before you colonists started making up words and leaving out perfectly good letters. A-loo-minum indeed... 😋😁.
8:00 Because one of the big things about ncuti gatwa's "Doctor" is that when he bi-generated David got stuck with all the baggage. The soft reboot extends to RTD not wanting to deal with the bagagge of 60 years of the doctor.
But RTD still messes that all up because Gatawa's Doctor had like 4 "I'm deeply Depressed" moments in episode 1 alone... So what was the point of the specials and Tennant being cucked and broken
I saw it was a black guy and was like "Okay some representation for black people" then saw it was on Disney Plus "OH, forced representation that will fail spectacularly."
The fact that they feel the need to infro dump or at least *try* to info dump the doctors entire back story on episode 1 should tell you exactly the quality of writing to expect from here on... they think their new "modern audiance" is too stupid to retain information without the screen being shared by subway surfers.
You make many assumptions based upon your own biases and anger.
The Doctor isn't meant to be a happy happy fun Skippy kind of guy. He has seen war, death, he literally has committed countless atrocities and genocides. He is meant to be nice and fun but a deep darkness to him.
You saying "he's so happy" screams he's not the doctor. Could you imagine this guy in the library where the shadows eat you? Or slaughtering the Daleks at the end of time with river song?
This is season 1 because this is NOT Doctor Who. This is something else but they know nobody would care.
JUST MAYBE THEY DO CARE and a sad sack morose and moody would not be enjoyable to watch.
Man I can feel the episode message grinding against reality with the monster thing.
How is it "grinding" reality anymore than anything else in Dr. Who?
No such thing as monsters?! The Doctor literally met The Devil!
Yeah, the devil from the bible. Idk maybe this Doctor hit their head HARD!
And countless gods and demons.
Or do people seriously think Sutekh, Great Vampires, Eternals, Racnoss, Carronites, Old Ones, Menti Celesti and more, are not monsters?
The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit are some of my favorite episodes... and it's not just because there's some minor Doom references scattered here and there...
It's the fact that the Doctor is facing something completely contradicts his understanding of the universe.
the doctor making fun of the babies and scaring them is like completely opposite to his character on a fundamental level. it genuinely make me recoil and say no, dude wtf. like yah it's kinda funny in a TV show sense, but IRL it's like literally bullying. they are 6! even though the baby thing screws up how you perceive them, but they are still not adults in the bodies of babies. they are 6.
"They were genocided" - Said the man who genocided them.
we'll technically it was the master who genecided them currently, the doctor ungenecided them in the 50th.
the writing was... certainly something...
There was writing?
@@matthewallen2273 Oh I hope you don't think that is wit there, it isn't.
During the Witaker years, they retconned the idea of the Doctor and the TImelords, where the Doctor was this ever changing, immortal being who couldn't die and kept reincarnating, who then got kidnapped by the Galifrayans who harvested this power from him and turned themselves into the timelords.
1:01 timeless children. Doctor was a little black girl that fell out a portal. She fought with a boy and fell off of a cliff with stunning grace and serenity and regenerated.
Tech-tayun (tay-oon) the scientist that adopted her, then proceeds to murder the child over and over until she was able to take the secret of regeneration and give it to the people of Galifrey.
The “doctor” supposedly used regeneration energy to bring the butterfly back but I don’t think he would have any since he bi-generated split from David Doctor before, they might say he has powers to bring things back to life because he’s black and gay, who knows
He's black and he's gay and he came to England as a refugee from Rwanda, so he is one of those holy refugees.
Amazing how they always hate the countries that saved them NOT the country that made them refugees in the first place... And Rwanda is fine now... in fact it's GORGOUS, try look it up. It's beautiful and developed with amazing nature... If he despises whitey so much he legit can go back there... But wait, they won't give him millions for merely existing as a gay black... he's so opressed.
@5:00 the doctor gave regeneration energy to Davros (capaldi)
Ncuti did it to resurect the butterfly, like how other doctors burped regeneration energy (11th old on the clocktower)
stop at "used regen" don'T go into skin tone racism or homophobia to justify : the doctor did it to Davros, Capaldi healed him mate
This comment is so stupid lol. Because he’s black and gay
It’s not like the 11th doctor has done this before to River or River to the doctor at one point.
And we don’t know exactly how the rules of bio regeneration work so yea it’s just based off what you feel “I don’t think he would have any”…
I think the doctor’s body would eventually refill itself with regeneration energy but that’s just an assertion made by meee… but at least Space Babies actually supports that assertion more…
Yes I wasn't sure it was just the tiniest blip of regeneration energy resurrected that butterfly. stop being a racist and sexualist for a moment.
A boogie in the UK or pronounced Bow as in hair bow, + gee= Bowgee, it was used in the Harry Potter books and movies to reference a booger
Ugh, you once had the Doctor Dances (Eccleston with Rose and Captain Jack), and now you have the Doctor PRANCES. We have been Snowmanned!!! Ugh, ugh, ugh!!!!!
Got a problem with prancing there?
With Christopher Eccleston doctor told rose that he cannot go back to a time in which he was already in because that could cause an issue with the timeline. So with the episode when they went back to Rose's father's death chose the issue about revisiting ones already visited timeline.
Awesome monster design on that episode. Would love to see them again.
That was such a sad episode always makes me tear up
You remember what happened when Rose saved her father right?
To quote the war doctor “no more”
Not me finding out they did a new show until watching this 😅
26:20 Bogey is also English slang for snot btw
Fair enough. I'm not sure why they didn't include that in the dictionary, but I guess English in America is different from British English. I find that strange because they usually have an 'alternate meaning for British' in the definition.
@@Alteori we invented the language so we get to say what’s proper English 😂
@@Alteori>>> I always get a laugh out of the American versus British definitions of the word _"Fanny."_ 🤭
Okay. So, there is a rule in Doctor Who that changing the past doesn't affect personal timelines. As in, when you travel through time, you're stepping outside of the normal timeline into your own. Meaning, if you change the past, it doesn't actually affect you personally. That's why when Rose saved her dad it didn't suddenly change her or make her remember her dad. This is a fundamental rule of the universe, because without it you could just always solve any problem. The whole point is that the Doctor cannot just do anything. Time starts to fall apart if you mess with fixed points of the main timeline. It lets creatures fall through the cracks from out of time into time because the integrity of the timeline has been broken. What determines a fixed point? Plot convenience apparently, but it might be anything that would affect the timeline a time traveler is on as well (just a theory, but would be consistent with how fixed points are presented). Time-wimey and all that.
Anyways, the point is these writers are idiots and don't know what they're doing.
They also make a point that time is sort of...rigid. Like, you poking at it won't change it. It takes a lot of power, like the Dalek empire or Sutek, to start really altering history.
Hypothesis not a theory.
@@billjacobs521 yes put themselves into a bit of a bottle there.
Feels surreal, new doctor fans are not going to know the “time war” was a thing. Cause at this point, it doesn’t matter anymore lol
My first introduction - It was the Fall of 1980, I was a freshman in high school, and my local PBS station was showing Tom Baker's 4th Doctor. I made it through Jodie Whittaker's first two series before The Timeless Child nonsense. I haven't watched an episode since and don't plan to do so.
They lost a fan of 40 years.
I would watch Baker as a child in the mid to late 70s. It was on PBS every Sunday after church.
The Land Before Time x Doctor Who crossover youve been waiting for Alteori.
Interacting with your own timeline has always had side effects, ranging from entire timeline shifts to reality warping. Stepping on a butterfly shouldn’t cause anything to change, at least not to the degree we see in this episode. Unless the gimmick for this companion is that she can heavily affect the timeline for some reason. Also the Doctor being able to bring things back to life has happened before, but usually something else is happening that gives him that ability, such as cutting his regeneration short and using the last of it to heal someone or something else. He seems fun, but if this is episode one then I don’t think it’s for me.
Time traveling, butterfly effect made it obvious a different race with him instead of a human.
I also got really confused about the whole "Pacifico del Rio" being English bit, but when Ruby asks that, she is referring to the screen's UI, not the name of the planet itself. If you pause at 8:55 and look at the projection, you can read words like "temperature" and even "mavity", but written backwards as we are seeing it all from the other side, before the Doctor deactivates the perception filter and show us what this futuristic language looks like.
14:42 But his not....his not a timelord. He's as much a timelord as Clark Kent is human. For all we know there is billions of....whatever he is in the dimension that he came from, but no not gonna explore that.
Thanks 'The Timeless Child'.
The Doctor is more than a Timelord since he/she is far greater and more powerful.
Ayo tori…why every time, outta no where, u be making these freaky analogies & metaphors to emphasize ya point!?😂😂 no warning, no lube. Just raw & unfiltered…??
😂 I'm sorry.
She got a freak streak
Best way more unfiltered more honest I like it
I didn’t expect her to be so fixated on his ass for that long, like damn.
Authenticity on display 😂
The boogeyman thing is a British thing AFAIK.
This would have worked better as a reboot of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures. No joke.
I really like where your animation has gone. Very well done!
I loved Doctor Who so much. Yes the show was tacky, bad speciel effects and all that but it had character, some amazing stories in between and was a bonding experience for me and my daughter having watched it together for many years, buying her sonic screwdrivers, posters and a Tardis. I honestly haven't felt the same about it since Disney took over and hoped for many years they'd go back and let writers like Moffat do his thing.
He is able to "donate" his regeneration energy to others. All time lords can do that, as River did for him through a kiss back in the 11th Doctor's era. I guess that's what he did to the butterfly, as regen energy has been shown multiple times bein' expelled through the mouth in the series.
This writing is like Disney live action shows. Its written in a way which would never ever happen in real life.
My late mother was born in England, both her parents were American she was just born there while grandfather was stayioned there. She loved british tv and humor and loved Doctor Who, she would throw up.
The whole thing feels like a Rugrats episode, but the writers somehow made it weirder.
Rugrats had better writing than this, c'mon now 😂
My god, Ncuti is sticking his ass out for the whole episode, im concerned for his back atp
He sticks it out because he wanted somebody to stick somethig _in_ if you catch my drift...
@5:00 the doctor gave regeneration energy to Davros (capaldi)
Ncuti did it to resurect the butterfly, like how other doctors burped regeneration energy (11th old on the clocktower)
I've said this before, and I'll say it again:
*John Hurt should've pressed the fking button*
All what happened to the show will go on your accout, John...
That first Baby looks like John de Lancie (Q from Star Trek)
“The writing is just weird.” The WRITERS are just weird. I think I’ll pass on this.
There were writers on the payroll?
@5:00 he has healed things with regenerative abilities, but only when he has just become a new doctor and it was only his own body. in a christmas special The Doctor is fighting the Sycorax and loses an arm, and grows it back.
19:08 about the staff leaving: my read on it was that the staff are told to abandon ship and leave the babies by the company, and record that they are against this action, but end up going through with it because it's the only way to get home. That's my takeaway about that scene.
New to the channel, love the little two tail fox animation.
Now let's talk about Dr.who disney problems & about this episode:
1) He said his name when it should never ever say it. Literally cause a full entity to chase him for that (Silence).
2) He modify the past & future at all time he explain in saison 4 that causality in intricate, change the future change also the past so EVERYTHING about the butterfly effect is completely Voided by previous saisons.
3) He's NOT charismatic, all doctor have flaws and try to hide them but this doctor is like "Here what happend to me" no problem talking about everything like an exposition machine...
4) 4:55 he has the power to heal /Rewind time but not as strong as the TARDIS. Just as a reminder TARDIS literally rewind somebody's life to a Egg (child) form. (It was Rocksokorico falapatorius familly mother's fate)
5)The tardis can't teleport The Doctor when achor at one place, this is why at the end of saison 1 of 2013 he's sending Rose Tylor back and she come back with the power of the Tardis as Bad Wolf (sorry for spoiler but it's been a decade) and kill the whole dalek squad.
6) The docor always keep his sonic screwdriver AT ALL TIME, the only moment where he doesn't have it on him it's when he give it to his wife before she died cause he save her in it. (Library episode)
7) He give the key of the tardis like it was a candy it took a full season to give it to Rose Tylor cause it's a REALLY BIG DEAL. It allow the owner to enter the TARDIS without having to face the forcefield protecting it.
8) Disney will probably ruins this very long series for money with thing like "non-binary" "transgender" even tho the main subject of the series is "The Doctor" and not "The humans", that's why all previous season was way more interesting, cause it was center around The Doctor and his knowledge about the universe and all the spices he encounter... not some boger monster.
I'm sorry to write this much and if it's in broken english, it's not my main language.
I hope you all have a nice day.
This is mostly to number 8 the focus of the series has always been the rlationships between the docor and his companions. They stop him from turning into some OCD mad Time-Wizard, he expands thir horizons and helps them grow as people but I must admit since 2005 the focus has been shifting ever more towards the companions. I mean Rose Tyler was the first seasons Deus ex maxhina( the machina is the TARDIS lol). also you're English is pretty good.
this show already breaks established lore, and didn't walk back "the timeless children" so it's not the real doctor.
With every change and expansion there are those of narrow mind who say the same things you do. Bye.
@randallbesch2424 dude... Did you even watch the show before that episode?
This isn't a "change and expansion" that is a retcon of the entire lore of the time war and a portrayal of the doctor and all other Time Lords as pathological liars.
It tarnishes literal decades of established lore for the sake of "subverted expectations", it's not Doctor Who.
Nice job alteori, thanks for the video and your vibes
Edit: forgot to say i still just adore your avatar
He has excess life force during fresh regeneration during the first few months and it ca bring back life.
But he didn’t regenerate he bi-furcated and this isn’t straight after his bifurcation as far as I remember so that regen energy will be gone!
He’s also showing no signs of recovering from his regeneration cycle either so I don’t think it’s that?
It’s just Russell T Davies doing a Peter Pan and pulling a magic trick!
Nope i tap out after they decided to neuter the Doctor.
Yeah that kind of made me mad. Why did they bother bringing him back just to shit on him?
@@Alteori nothing says inspirational than having a "friend" and her kid tell you that you suck and that they are way smarter than a being who has live a Millenia
@@Alteori Its like why communists in China started the cultural revolution to attack "the four olds" basically wiping away everything that isn't in line with their political ideology.
What they did to the doctor is basically another one of their attempts to destroy the old so people will only know the new doctor that affirms their ideological beliefs.
Because to the people running the BBC and Doctor Who, everything is political, so it must affirm their beliefs.
I might be willing to give Doctor Who another chance if they retconned everything that happened during the Jodi Whittaker run. The Timeless Child arc pretty much craps on everything I loved in the previous Doctors' story arcs.
Yes. I hoped RTD would fix it. Say that the Master lied, and in fact everything he said about her was actually about himself, but he was just messing with her head. It would explain a lot---the Master's hostility toward the timelords, his being batshit insane due to all the experimentation, even his NAME (When you make a ton of copies, what do you call the original? The MASTER) ... but no. He just tripled down and made it worse.
They should just delete those seasons and start again. No one would complain.
The Doctor has always been able to expend regeneration energy to heal others. It comes at a cost, Peter Capaldi Dr did this. The ninth Doctor had Rose calling her family from the future to the past, the episode where her one episode boyfriend took advantage of that to his regret.
At least in Jurassic World, it was a child who let the monsters live, as a child is unlikely to fully understand the consequences; the Doctor, on the other hand, has spent _millennia_ making these sorts of decisions, and has no excuse for being this naive.
Oh I am looking forward to hearing the german translation of this episode (german guy here)
Eccleston was my first too, felt exactly like you, loved it even more with Tenant, stopped watching at Capaldi 🤦🏾♂️
regarding the doctor healing the butterfly, this is the same as healing river song's wrist using regeneration energy, it's the strongest when he's just regenerated (like when he regrew his whole hand during the 10th doctor's first episode).
Doctor Who died back in 2014/2015. BBC's just been pissing on its corpse in a desperate attempt to bring it back to life and then had Disney take over when their bladder went empty.
The lore is all fked up. He does have a name and yes, the people from his home planet favored the use of titles but they all had names too. As for him being adopted, that comes from a retcon during Jodie's run.
The weirdest part about this for me is that the writer that made this is the same one that kicked off Eccleston's run. He used to be not just good but fking phenomenal and I've no idea what happened to his skill.
Well back then he wasnt the sole writer, all the best episodes there were co written or written by other people. I think RTD is good at character dialogue but when it comes to humour and plot hes absolutely crap at it lol. Hopefully moffats episode will be good at least
Earlier than that about the strange child, an alien one with the power of regeneration that the Gallifreyans took.
Then the ship arrived at the colony with Jocelyn and the space babies eaten by the monster.
also "it is one of the children" refers to the fact that the bogyman was also made by the machine that generates the children, at the same time as the other children we meet in the episode. it is six years old, exactly as the other ones. it's likely not even that different from human, since the child snot would probably have tons of human dna. I still don't know how it exists tho
Crazy how it looks so fucked up then but yeah thought the same thing
This show has had all sorts of wacky creatures and concepts, so I’m not sure why I’m so thrown by the babies in strollers on a spaceship
Doctor who should never have been brought back in 2005.
They've shit on everything so thoroughly at this point that there's nothing left.
13 regeneration hard limit? Nah!
Hey, let's just completely rewrite the back story so he's not even from galifrey!
This sucks!
Too much change for you? Bye.
Regeneration limit was something from the comics, canonized by the show runners in the 80s, but it got undone; first by him absorbing all the Master’s regeneration energy, and then by something the Doctor did that gave infinite regeneration energy to every remaining Timelord.
I give. Dr Who has been dead to me since Rose left with the duplicate and then ten died and didn't want to die. T_T
The captain toddler girl might actually be older than the rest which might be why she might actually give proper reactions unlike the others, which might also explain why they made her the captain, since she would probably have more scenes than the rest of the toddlers. Getting babies to act a certain way is hard
Did they get the propulsion idea from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome?
"The lights, the vehicles. All run on a high powered gas called methane. Methane cometh from pig shit."