Why Didn't The Japanese Colonize America?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @stefanpfeiffermerino7633
    @stefanpfeiffermerino7633 Год назад +19

    In my opinion I would say that the type of sea one navigates through makes a big difference to how skilled and capable a nation's seafarers and shipbuilders are.
    Take the maritime silk road, stretching from Egypt and the Red sea through the Indian Ocean Dominated by seasonal monsoon wind and current shifts, the tropical islands of south East Asia and into the east China sea.
    Then compare it to the traditional home waters of the western European naval powers, they are seas that are much higher in latitude and much colder with rougher seas and the highest average wave heights in the world lying in the north Atlantic.
    Those conditions have created incentives to not necessarily build bigger ships but built tougher ones which can withstand a beating and develop better navigation that can bring you to your destination with a limited access to the stars courtesy of the shorter days in winter and more widespread cloud cover.
    You may argue that at least the northern half of Japan has similar conditions and you would be correct, but the difference is that there wasn't much incentive for Japanese sailors to venture north because there wasn't anything of much value to them there.
    The northern Japanese island of Hokkaido was only slowly incorporated into the Tokugawa shogunate in the 18th century with the native Ainu peoples continuing to live rather undisturbed lives until the expanding Russian empire began to reach the northern domains of Japan, only then did the Shogunate begin to show interest in its northern frontier.
    This means that a European power on the other side of Eurasia reached and began to settle the Kurils and Sakhalin before their Japanese next door neighbour.
    Maybe if Japan hadn't become isolationist in the 17th century things would have been different with them continuing to adopt European technology like they did before with the musket.
    Had they succeeded in conquering Korea or even attempting to invade China they would have found themselves with no choice but to compete with the outside world.
    One final thing is that the currents in fact allow Japan to travel east, in the north Pacific winds and currents blow West to East, in fact there have been multiple accounts of Japanese fishing vessels being blown of course and making landfall on the coast of Oregon in the 19th century. Who is to say that these types of incidents didn't happen two or three centuries before Europeans were there to record them?
    But the catch here lies with the aforementioned climatic conditions, the northern Pacific is quite similar in roughness to the north Atlantic and with everything of interest lying to the east and south of Japan most naval activity was focused towards these more forgiving waters, baring the ocational typhoon of course.
    And without much experience or need to be proficient in navigating the northern waters a successful voyage to America would have been less likely.
    We do know that trans Pacific voyages were perfectly possible as demonstrated by the centuries long Spanish Manila galleon trade routes in which they conducted trade between ther colonies of New Spain in Mexico and their possessions in the Philippines traveling east to west in more tropical latitudes were the trade winds are dominant and traveling back sailing a more northern course traveling to the seas east
    Of Japan and then letting the westerlies carry them to the Shores of North America usually to make landfall somewhere in Northern California and then traveling down the coast until they reached the port of Acapulco in Mexico.

    • @IELife-de2oc
      @IELife-de2oc Год назад +1

      This is a very accurate and correct take. This video should pin your comment.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      Spaniards were in Hawaii before Capn' Crunch reared his pirate head.

  • @frankmitchell3594
    @frankmitchell3594 Год назад +6

    If the Junk that sailed westward in 1420 had continued for another week or two it likely would not have made it home again for the very reason given, the winds blow in the wrong direction. However we do not know if any Junks did just that voyage but then never returned. Are there any Japanese or Chinese artifacts to be found in the New World?

  • @PhoenixAscending
    @PhoenixAscending Год назад +18

    I wouldn't say that Rome rose because Carthage just "fell". They fell due to Rome beating them in battle, and winning a war against the Carthaginians, while both were at their heights militarily, and as empires. Then Rome defeated them in two more wars

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад +5

      Carthage was caught off guard by the war and had the military... but not the military readiness. Incompetent leadership due to social decay? Who knows but there were deeper systemic issues ultimately leading to their loss. Also it's potatoes-potatoes, glass half full -half empty. The point is great powers often destroy themselves internally and while the final blow might come in the form of a war their fate is often sealed decades before. It's impossible to measure though and somewhat arbitrary and everyone in every civilization has always felt 'at the end of the world' so I'm not making comments about the modern world or just history and within a very narrow context at that I'm not deny Rome or any other power wasn't awesome but it depends how you measure it. You can say 'Rome was more competent than Carthage' or you can say 'Rome was less incompetent than Carthage' and both are true. Obviously neither were 'equally competent' else we wouldn't have a winner. Stalemates have happened usually because both sides exhaust themselves. Is this because they are equally capable? or equally incapable? P0tatoes PotAtoes.

    • @rebeccaorman1823
      @rebeccaorman1823 Год назад +2

      I agree with you. Without Rome, Carthage would have continued on.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      @@rebeccaorman1823 There are actually people who deny that Hannibal sacrificed children to his Baal. They happen to be... Tunisians and such.
      But Romans had human sacrifices too, for SATVRNVS. He ate his children, so...

    • @rebeccaorman1823
      @rebeccaorman1823 Год назад

      @@scintillam_dei while the Romans occasionally practiced human sacrifice in moments of great stress, it was an extremely rare practice with them and not something that they did regularly. While someone may deny that Hannibal personally practiced human sacrifice as far as I know no historian denies that the Carthaginians did although some do maintain that possibly it wasn't as extensively practiced as is sometimes thought.

  • @chazzemmons
    @chazzemmons Год назад +12

    This is such a great video, expected 100,000’s of subscribers, excited to see what’s next x

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад +2

      That's the dream! Thanks!

    • @Waltyworld
      @Waltyworld 10 месяцев назад

      He only has 356 subscribers sadly 😢😢😢😢

    • @Waltyworld
      @Waltyworld 10 месяцев назад

      I,ll be the 357th

  • @RobertRodgers-r5h
    @RobertRodgers-r5h Год назад +4

    Very well done, so I happily subscribed to your channel! Thank you for making and sharing this outstanding video.

  • @zhcultivator
    @zhcultivator 6 дней назад +1

    Interesting video, I have a question though, Why didn't an Indonesian Empire colonize Northern Australia like say Majapahit conquering new guinea, the torres strait islands & the northern australian coast?

  • @Exoneos
    @Exoneos Год назад +5

    It's not that japan are complacent they have just another form of mindset and this mindset was not set for colonisation/conquest like we have in the west. The imperial japan of WW1 et WW2 are just an odity against the whole of japan history. Imho of course.

    • @johntoemilytransitionvlog9418
      @johntoemilytransitionvlog9418 Год назад

      So True

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      Japan sent empty threats to the Spanish but chose to invade Korea instead because the Japs were scared of the biggest empire in history. Also, Korea's closer than Filipinas.

  • @ivancheung7032
    @ivancheung7032 13 дней назад

    This is a great video! I finally understand this huge mystery. What motivated you to make this video?

  • @bhavinigurjar1862
    @bhavinigurjar1862 Год назад +6

    Nice work it will be great if you make more videos like this one

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      Thank You, I Will!

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      No one asked, and I abandoned my channel per se, but you should see "What if Portugal and Spain switched inheritances in the Treaty of Tordesillas?"

    • @bhavinigurjar1862
      @bhavinigurjar1862 Год назад

      @@scintillam_dei ok

  • @DannyBuster75
    @DannyBuster75 Год назад +2

    This deserved a sub. More like these please pal.

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      Yes Chef!

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      I will subscribe if you say "Brits are overrated."@@IanLongaf

  • @deveanhernandez4411
    @deveanhernandez4411 Год назад +2

    this ones gonna pop off on history youtube fr

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      That would be crazy awesome!

  • @JIRO-FX3150
    @JIRO-FX3150 6 месяцев назад

    Tsunenaga Hasekura, who is said to have been born in Tateishi, Seki, Yonezawa City, later became a vassal of Date Masamune and was active as a military commander.
    In 1613, in order to negotiate trade between the Sendai domain and Spain, Tsunenaga boarded the San Juan Bautista and crossed the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, meeting with the King of Spain and the Pope. As a result, the negotiations could not be concluded and he returned home disappointed, but Tsunenaga Hasekura made history by being ``the first Japanese to successfully cross the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, and the first to go to a European country to conduct diplomatic negotiations.'' He accomplished a great feat.
    Japan did not have ships capable of sailing long distances, and the Spaniards controlled North and South America, making it physically impossible to colonize America.

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis Год назад +1

    In 1632 books there's a novel where, to avoid the infamous christians ' massacre by the shogunate, they are given the means to sail and colonize California.

  • @nicinat0r
    @nicinat0r Год назад +2

    Can you make a video explaining why Ana de Armas wont answer my DMs?

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад +4

      Can you explain why Ana de Armas wont answer my direct messages in the style of viktor frankl
      ChatGPT
      I understand that you might be feeling a sense of frustration or confusion as to why Ana de Armas, the actress, is not responding to your direct messages. Let's interpret this scenario through the lens of Viktor Frankl, an Austrian psychiatrist and Holocaust survivor who is best known for developing logotherapy, a form of existential analysis that emphasizes the search for meaning in life.
      Firstly, it's important to grasp Frankl's idea that "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." Applying this to your situation, the stimulus is the lack of response from Ana de Armas, and your feelings of disappointment or confusion are your initial reaction. However, within this space, you have the power to choose your next response.
      Frankl also believed that suffering can be a potential human achievement if it is faced with courage, and if a person finds meaning in it. It's natural to feel upset when we do not receive the attention or acknowledgement we desire, especially from someone we admire. However, perhaps this situation can prompt a moment of self-reflection and personal growth.
      Remember, each person's life is filled with a unique set of responsibilities, obligations, and struggles. Celebrities like Ana de Armas are no different. They deal with an onslaught of messages and demands for their attention. It is virtually impossible for them to respond to everyone. This lack of response is not a reflection of your worth, but rather a simple limitation of human capacity.
      Also, consider what Frankl states about the pursuit of success or happiness: “Don't aim at success - the more you aim at it and make it a target, the more you are going to miss it." Frankl believed that happiness cannot be pursued; it must ensue. It is the byproduct of giving up oneself to a cause greater than oneself or a person other than oneself. This principle can be applied to your situation as well. Instead of focusing on a specific response from Ana de Armas, consider turning your attention towards actions that are meaningful to you, that align with your values, and that help others.
      In this way, you can find a productive and meaningful way to handle this situation. You have the power to choose your response, and in doing so, you can find a sense of fulfillment and growth that is independent of any external validation.

  • @loquat44-40
    @loquat44-40 Год назад +1

    I did not finish this video. A better question is why china did not colonize america. They had a more a substantial naval and were into long distance trading and even exploring. For Japanese their natural route to discover america would have been hunting, trapping, and fishing trips to the north and then to the Aleutian Island to Alaska. But the Russians were showing up in those areas and were in that type exploration-conquest. Also China still had outstanding claims. The japanese instead attacked what was nearer and clearly was of value like Korea.

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад +2

      It's basically the same question except China would have to sail past Japan and the first island chain. I did mention Chinese explorers in the video idk if you got to that point. And remind me why Zheng He's expeditions were cut short?

    • @loquat44-40
      @loquat44-40 Год назад

      @@IanLongaf The chinese under some emperors sail long distances, the japanese did not.
      Some argue that Zheng He made it to the Americas. No opinion on my part for that. The Polynesians made it to the west coast of South America.

  • @Usermaatre6723
    @Usermaatre6723 5 месяцев назад

    great video

  • @OiiRobbi3x
    @OiiRobbi3x Год назад +2

    Great video enjoy the format

  • @masimilianzo
    @masimilianzo Год назад

    Great video!

  • @zacksnell2316
    @zacksnell2316 Год назад

    124th sub. Hope this is as good as it looks

  • @scintillam_dei
    @scintillam_dei Год назад

    But I've heard of Gobi sandstorms sending sand particles to Korea and Japan. How so if the wind goes towards the west instead?
    See my series "The British Empire Was NOT The Biggest" and the video "Spain created the British Empire and the USA"
    as well as "A conquistador refutes the 'Metatron' on Samurais VS Spaniards.
    It's very satisfying to humiliate a famous youtuber because he shat on the history of your people.
    I creatd a colossal realistic map from London to Cape Town to Nanjing for Age of Empires 2 HD, with América in the center from Canada to Antarctica, and for Japan to fit, I had to put it close to California. Conquering Japan with jaguar warriors is a joy few men have ever experienced.
    And setting up trade with Cuzco from Kyoto is also pleasant.
    But nothing beats retracing the steps of the early Spanish Empire, fending off the Turks, the French, crushing Portuguese rebels, destroying London, destroying Tenochtitlán, capturing Cuzco, and showing up in the Far East like the rising sun.

  • @Logan-dp6uw
    @Logan-dp6uw Год назад +3

    Good video

  • @rebeccaorman1823
    @rebeccaorman1823 Год назад +1

    Personally, I thought that this video contradicted itself.

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      How so?

    • @RogueReplicant
      @RogueReplicant Год назад +2

      ​​@@IanLongafFor instance, you said that Britain didn't dominate the seas due to superior technology but to superior skills of their crews. The you said that junks were superior to caravels (quite the stretch) which alone explained its "amazing" trip to the Atlantic.

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      @@RogueReplicant Junks were superior evidenced in the fact they sailed further earlier than any European caravel. that's why this question 'why didn't Asians colonize the New World' arises and then you look at what European states colonized the US- what did they have that others didn't and a good place to start is geography. It was the westernmost seaward nations at first and so Japan becomes the center of focus as it has similar geographic cards to that of our European counterparts so why didn't japan colonize the new world? I mentioned the British having good sailors as a reason why Germany- for instance didn't- (among other reasons namely geography) but the point was that japan had great sailors and great ships too.
      The only amazing stretch was the distance the Chinese junk sailed. Sure the Europeans got superior technology later but not in the 16th century where they were in a perpetual game of catch-up with the middle east and Asia until the mid 17th century or so.

    • @RogueReplicant
      @RogueReplicant Год назад +2

      @@IanLongaf Not so. Caravels were the first TRUE BLUE WATER CRAFT. Period. You may want to play up the Asian COAST HUGGERS if you wish, but we all know that TRUE DEEP WATER , BLUE WATER NAVIGATION started in Europe. There is NO COMPARISON between port-huggers (i.e. Arab, Asian and Indian "navigators") and TRUE BLUE WATER NAVIGATION as practiced by the Portuguese, Spanish and English. Period.

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад +1

      @@RogueReplicant For centuries the Chinese junk was the most seaworthy vessel as it was the only type of vessel that was constructed in watertight compartments and would still float if two of its compartments were flooded (Maine.edu). just because you use CAPITALIZED LETTERS doesn't make you right.

  • @jariusaliffwan8001
    @jariusaliffwan8001 Год назад +2

    Brilliant

  • @tyrannicalgod6064
    @tyrannicalgod6064 Год назад +4

    Glory to the Japan Glory to the Emperor 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵

    • @RogueReplicant
      @RogueReplicant Год назад +1

      The Japanese Emperor can eat me, bwahahahahahaha 👊

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад +1

      Racist Pirate Nation, just like the British, but with black hair instead of rainbow colours, and a short stature.

    • @RogueReplicant
      @RogueReplicant Год назад

      @@scintillam_dei True. The Japs were / are among the most racist people ever.

  • @Warum_Nicht
    @Warum_Nicht Год назад +1

    It is too bad that Japan did not colonize even more!

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      I see the imperial Japanese flag in some Cambodian trucks.

  • @eitkoml
    @eitkoml Год назад

    What if the British Navy was so powerful because it was crewed by legions of Chavs with stronger wood than other sailors have?

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 Год назад

    I see you have changed the name of my country New Zealand, it is still called New Zealand b y the vast majority of New Zealanders....I am curious as to the reason you did this? Ok so some the Local Maori have adopted this name that was given to them by an Australian. But our name is still New Zealand in the UN, bla bla, bla bla.
    Did you get this Idea from some Anti European Colonization thingy that you read somewhere?

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад +1

      I actually don't know what you're talking about. I may have used a map with the name changed but I didn't notice. Crazy I never knew New Zealanders were so anal.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      When Spaniards poop, the poop goes to New Zealand.

  • @elvenkind6072
    @elvenkind6072 Год назад

    Is it not a bit too ambitious to try a channel explaining how the world was built?

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      maybe

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 Год назад

      ​@@IanLongaf You got a subscribe from me anyhow, in case I'm wrong, hoping you'll prove me wrong.

    • @IanLongaf
      @IanLongaf  Год назад

      @@elvenkind6072 thanks! try this one: ruclips.net/video/AVpVP1OWnkU/видео.html

  • @countMonteTristo
    @countMonteTristo Год назад +1

    Holy crap this was good

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 Год назад

    🗿👍🏿

  • @FGPR01BrunoCauz
    @FGPR01BrunoCauz Год назад +1

    Japan as Britain was just greedy like any other country and wanted an empire like Russia, Spain, and France. They mastered the art of naval battle and sea travel. This is the prime reason for their advantage of power. In many ways, the empire almost collapsed early on due to forces presents in Asia like Russia, Dutch, China, and Britain having a far greater beginning advantage. Japan was determined to outdo everyone else and grow exponentially powerful and wealthy. The beginning reasons were due to survival. As Britain, Japan knew she could be occupied and dominated by these empires. Japan had to get a piece of the pie and join the fight or get dominated at some point.
    The later reasons were just greed and power. After having no opposition to her navy in the North Pacific ocean was able to conquer lands by sea, and this eventually led to the empire gaining inland territory later on. After having so many territories and colonies, the empire was unstoppable for a while. Other countries struggled to keep their empires afloat economically and militarily. The Japanese also mastered the art of economics, and this is what helped them sustain such a large maritime empire for so long. The Japanese weren't technically very skilled generals on land. They mostly dominated the sea first, then brought in men to secure or occupy an area, and with so many colonies for men to use to fight an uprising, they could suppress anything that opposed them.
    So it's not too insane. It was just carefully planned expansion and control. Also, I think the biggest factor in the rise of the empire during the 19th and 20th centuries was the industrial revolution which came a century before. After the USA intervention , this revolution being in England helped to propel Japan empire a century after to heights most modern empires were never able to achieve.
    Also, the Japan empire gained and lost territories as it went on. So at one point it was never as big as we usually see it. Many maps like to place all the territories and colonies from it's entire history as one big empire. At it's height, it never had the colonies, nor others that gained independence beforehand.

  • @TheRogerhill1234
    @TheRogerhill1234 Год назад

    Were any of the explores Transgendered ?

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Год назад

      Were any of them necrophiles would be a similar question. I identify as always right. Respect my identity.

  • @hungmai1217
    @hungmai1217 Год назад +6

    Good video