Ish saying that women in heir 40's and 50's that don't have families so they can focus on their careers really got to Mel. She turned into "I am woman hear me roar" real fast. She took it personal.
Think she tries to please all sides instead of speaking how she really feel and that’s with any of her takes…she gotta start listening to her pod brothers
This is NOT hate. This episode is the EXACT reason Mel is in her upper 40’s and single. She can say it’s by choice, which it could be, but she approaches fundamental relationship situations like a teenager. For a person who talks about her worldly experience and wide network of friends, she thinks using big words during flawed arguments makes her seem smarter.
Its only gonna get worst. Mel is still a nice looking woman so she gets a lot of attention from men I'm sure. Most attractive women are chronically single. They have too many options so they're quick to dismiss someone with the thought that something better will always come along. Social media has tripled that effect. Its a never ending cycle.
Labeling it as a “disregard” is a negative connotation to the “choice” made. Yes, it’s a conscious choice. It’s also a ‘choice’ that’s feels more like an ultimatum. The wording is what she asked to be changed because that’s not an accurate or fair framing. She didn’t say change your thought, she said change the word.
@@JennHeartsYou92 you can’t change words words already have meaning they’re already established that’s the problem everybody everybody’s trying to change the meaning of words to what they want to change it to
The irony of a woman who enjoyed, made a living off of & cashed out on men who “admired” her body, now fighting to not be seen through those same eyes, is not lost on me.
They never see the hypocrisy of the situation. They also fail to realize that they don’t allow access to men in order to have such a strong opinion on how men think. If they not making money they won’t have a conversation let alone date them 😂
Notice how much more upset Mel was this episode than the other girl even though they both were disagreeing with the guys. The older they are the more bitter they are. The wall is undefeated. DANGER zoneeeee! (The other girl is just as delusional though)
The men that feel offended by Mel bringing up VALID points.. automatically ASSUME that she is trying to WIN an argument.Then glorify ISH for supposedly WINNING an argument... To which Mel clearly said that it was never something to win. It was just adult having healthy dialogue... BOTH Men and ISH did acknowledge some of each other's points. Yes there were points made from both sides that neither agreed. ISH repeatedly said that he wanted MEL to see what he was saying was right.... Meanwhile the specfics group of men in the comments section continue to paint this toxic narrative that Mel is trying to win or that she got BAKED on the conversation 🤣🤣🤣. It almost seems that the example that Mel SHANTI gave about some men really only seeing the value in women is through sex. Mel then stated that SOME not all men could just be ANGRY with women. BOth shanti and MEL stated that from their experience and the women around them... Some men act as if they see no value in women or hate women. MEL EXPLAINED that she wasn't saying that the men on the podcast hates woman. She was sharing a cohesive experience that herself and other woman MARRIED, SIGNAL OR WIDOWED from across the GLOBE has shared.... She also was TRUTHFUL by saying that though she believes it is a LARGE group of women who feel this way by certain MEN... She honest enough to explain that it would be impossible for her to give an actual statical NUMBER because there are many nuances...🤓She also then goes back to explaining that it isn't all men that hates woman. ISH continue to listen with the intention to crack MEL muffins.... But when she asked is it to much to believe that a man could only have the desire to STICK his dick in 1 man.... ISH makes a fainted point and walks off never answering the question 😂😂👀👀 Creating the false sense that he drop the mic but he was escaping the question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣let's be clear LIBRARY made great points but a few of his takes contradicts his daily male banter or his responses towards previous naivety when she has had HOPES that a man could be honest when he says that he is only fucking her👀👀👀BUT..... He also puts Mel in the group of women that calls all men dogs... Or think that no man can be FAITHFULLY fucking one woman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👀🤓let's be clear both mel and ish probably have both misspoke of contradicted themselves during the pod history.... But giving the nature of this conversation 😳😳😳 Both men and women she understands that it's okay to hold Mel accountable and ish for the wild takes...... For example EVERYTIME MEL Mentioned that she knows so many women that has been SEXUAL ABUSE SEXUALLY ABUSED SEXUALLY ABUSED 👀👀👀👀 But for some reason the room gets quite women you ask men do they know a RAPIST.... 😳😳😳😳🤣🤣 So to be fair YES some women lie about these situations.... But the fact that in certain rooms you can get an empty room when it comes to asking me if they know any rapist is WILD... come seriously...don't you think? Really put the gender wars aside. That same silence behavior that SOME men has when holding other men accountable is Dangerous. Vice versa it's dangerous when WOMEN don't acknowledge that some women do like. 🤓🤓🤓 How much is it to see the both perspective and to not feel the need to want to pick aside of a person versus selecting the side that clear and transparent? Also for the real supporters go back and watch the episode when MEL Mentioned her ex that GHOSTED her when her mom was diagnosed 👀👀 The reaction the guys are saying now .. WAS NOT THERE INITIAL REACTION... the laugh at her for being naive to think a man that is living in London was going only fuck her ..... Ish also supported the statement by saying that at one point in his life he had (10) (10) (10) yes he said TEN girls In 1 city..... The occasional banter that the men on the pod and some other men gives when MEL talk about male friends that she has had... SOMETIMES is always laugh at or portrait that mel is a fool for thinking any of her Mel friends are not trying to have sex or would have sex.... They make fun of her for pour judgment...... But then turn around and contradicts themselves because........................... These same MEN considered Mel as a friend or a co worker. So is she naive to believe that the men on the pod do not want to have sex with her🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 it's like you guys come on... It's wildly contradicting and gas lightish to play on both sides on the scenario. Mel is either to naive or she with the group of all the other women that think that MEN AINT SHIT. PICK A SIDE GENTLEMAN 😜😜🤓😂🌻 OH and lastly, Shanti made the point as to why more women are over sexualized because it appears that most men only see women value in SEX or a notch on their belt ..... Here me out guys❤️❤️❤️👀👀🤣🙄 let's not act like when Joe and ish talk about their JERSEY as in sexual women sport BAGGING male game has been put up as a badge of honor. These same guys used to .... because they are in relationships now ...and I'm assuming that they are FAITHFUL 🙏🙏 LOOK AT WOMEN FOR FUCKING purposes... Ish even went as far to express that YES When a man see a woman he is sizing her up to FIRST see if she is something he would FUCK..... But then he walks of the pod when MEL ASK the cast is it too much to ask a man to fuck ONE vagina 🤣🤣🤣. Anyway this was great.
Everything goes to crap when they start to generilize and Ish is the same this whole Men Women things is goofy. it's about different circumstances lifestyles and choices
@@oladeebiazazi4538 This was also before the Reverse Cowgirl episode. Mel been here, what, over a year? You can make a 45 minute to hour compilation of her sounding absolutely ridiculous. And that's just on these types of topics alone. Any time the woman isn't put eons above the man, Mel's ready to flip the table over. I enjoy hearing people speak with intelligence, not emotion & Mel just doesn't bring that.
Referring to the conversation starting at 1:34:00....only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is loved under the condition that he provides something - Chris Rock
Sick is an understatement 😪 As a women its frustrating to hear her talk!She talk like she hate men and its so many women like this and its disturbing!!
Shes the same one who literally profited off her body, and was a video girl but then wants to say men just wanna have sex with women? You are literally apart of the woman of the problem shut up
that´s joe coward side that shows up from time to time ...when Mel hits a nerve in men women conversation joe always walks away because his usual response is clowning or ridiculing and he couldn´t do it at that point
These episodes where there’s a real breaking down of everybody’s side, is really when this podcast peaks my interest. Usually I fall asleep but I could see me in these conversations cooking myself. Mel and Ish’s passion was the jumpstart to the rest of the conversation riding out.
Ish was in Muffin Man mode this whole pod .. if Mel ever gets casted to play “The Victim” she’s immediately an Oscar winner .. she should get a Manager & look into that🤷🏾♂️
This episode is a perfect example of why men can't have serious conversations with some women. MEL said like 30x Ish and Joe was right in their stance just to make a frivolous argument that they shouldn't be right because her feelings tell her no 😅😅😅 based on her experiences and what SHE specifically identifies with... can't make this comedic gold up 😅😂😂
To anyone else who read this and either be in they feelings or feel defensive. This is all fun games to me hence me laughing. So breath and remember this the internet not the debate team 😅😅😂😂
It’s because when women make valid points men try to reduce them to statistics that y’all know don’t exist lol “I’ve spoken to women globally and we have had similar experiences” them: “what percentage of men are like that!” Like stfu there is no studies because all of these things are just based in general experiences doesn’t make any of it less true
The men that feel offended by Mel bringing up VALID points.. automatically ASSUME that she is trying to WIN an argument.Then glorify ISH for supposedly WINNING an argument... To which Mel clearly said that it was never something to win. It was just adult having healthy dialogue... BOTH Men and ISH did acknowledge some of each other's points. Yes there were points made from both sides that neither agreed. ISH repeatedly said that he wanted MEL to see what he was saying was right.... Meanwhile the specfics group of men in the comments section continue to paint this toxic narrative that Mel is trying to win or that she got BAKED on the conversation 🤣🤣🤣. It almost seems that the example that Mel SHANTI gave about some men really only seeing the value in women is through sex. Mel then stated that SOME not all men could just be ANGRY with women. BOth shanti and MEL stated that from their experience and the women around them... Some men act as if they see no value in women or hate women. MEL EXPLAINED that she wasn't saying that the men on the podcast hates woman. She was sharing a cohesive experience that herself and other woman MARRIED, SIGNAL OR WIDOWED from across the GLOBE has shared.... She also was TRUTHFUL by saying that though she believes it is a LARGE group of women who feel this way by certain MEN... She honest enough to explain that it would be impossible for her to give an actual statical NUMBER because there are many nuances...🤓She also then goes back to explaining that it isn't all men that hates woman. ISH continue to listen with the intention to crack MEL muffins.... But when she asked is it to much to believe that a man could only have the desire to STICK his dick in 1 man.... ISH makes a fainted point and walks off never answering the question 😂😂👀👀 Creating the false sense that he drop the mic but he was escaping the question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣let's be clear LIBRARY made great points but a few of his takes contradicts his daily male banter or his responses towards previous naivety when she has had HOPES that a man could be honest when he says that he is only fucking her👀👀👀BUT..... He also puts Mel in the group of women that calls all men dogs... Or think that no man can be FAITHFULLY fucking one woman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👀🤓let's be clear both mel and ish probably have both misspoke of contradicted themselves during the pod history.... But giving the nature of this conversation 😳😳😳 Both men and women she understands that it's okay to hold Mel accountable and ish for the wild takes...... For example EVERYTIME MEL Mentioned that she knows so many women that has been SEXUAL ABUSE SEXUALLY ABUSED SEXUALLY ABUSED 👀👀👀👀 But for some reason the room gets quite women you ask men do they know a RAPIST.... 😳😳😳😳🤣🤣 So to be fair YES some women lie about these situations.... But the fact that in certain rooms you can get an empty room when it comes to asking me if they know any rapist is WILD... come seriously...don't you think? Really put the gender wars aside. That same silence behavior that SOME men has when holding other men accountable is Dangerous. Vice versa it's dangerous when WOMEN don't acknowledge that some women do like. 🤓🤓🤓 How much is it to see the both perspective and to not feel the need to want to pick aside of a person versus selecting the side that clear and transparent? Also for the real supporters go back and watch the episode when MEL Mentioned her ex that GHOSTED her when her mom was diagnosed 👀👀 The reaction the guys are saying now .. WAS NOT THERE INITIAL REACTION... the laugh at her for being naive to think a man that is living in London was going only fuck her ..... Ish also supported the statement by saying that at one point in his life he had (10) (10) (10) yes he said TEN girls In 1 city..... The occasional banter that the men on the pod and some other men gives when MEL talk about male friends that she has had... SOMETIMES is always laugh at or portrait that mel is a fool for thinking any of her Mel friends are not trying to have sex or would have sex.... They make fun of her for pour judgment...... But then turn around and contradicts themselves because........................... These same MEN considered Mel as a friend or a co worker. So is she naive to believe that the men on the pod do not want to have sex with her🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 it's like you guys come on... It's wildly contradicting and gas lightish to play on both sides on the scenario. Mel is either to naive or she with the group of all the other women that think that MEN AINT SHIT. PICK A SIDE GENTLEMAN 😜😜🤓😂🌻 OH and lastly, Shanti made the point as to why more women are over sexualized because it appears that most men only see women value in SEX or a notch on their belt ..... Here me out guys❤️❤️❤️👀👀🤣🙄 let's not act like when Joe and ish talk about their JERSEY as in sexual women sport BAGGING male game has been put up as a badge of honor. These same guys used to .... because they are in relationships now ...and I'm assuming that they are FAITHFUL 🙏🙏 LOOK AT WOMEN FOR FUCKING purposes... Ish even went as far to express that YES When a man see a woman he is sizing her up to FIRST see if she is something he would FUCK..... But then he walks of the pod when MEL ASK the cast is it too much to ask a man to fuck ONE vagina 🤣🤣🤣. Anyway this was great.
Mel, I have a question about the London guy.... If he would've been honest and said this is 2 much for me it's only been 7 months. What would you have done/said? In my experience it's a conversation most men don't want to have bcuz of the reaction. Some women can't let it just be the honest truth and they need closure bcuz they're hurt. They don't realize the honesty is the closure. That said honesty is always the win.
This was what I was asking myself. I came to the conclusion that she would have said the following... 'Man F u, u piece of s***. You were just using me and don't know how to handle a real women. I was getting small d*** energy from you anyway'. Maybe the small D energy was too much, but you get the jist 🤣
Whenever you run into a single older women, and you talk to them about relationahips and there perspective on the opposite sex.. you start to see why theyre single, their always a victim, they see the opposite sex as a "sex machine" and their ENTIRE mindset is an anticipation of negativity, if you pay attention closely theyre arguing to opposite sex AND battling there poisoned mindset that constantly injects doubt.
28:35 And that is still a very very very small demographic of the same kind of women within the same circles dealing with same men who supposed only see women as useful for what she said.
Mel, you're right... this is the first time in history that women have been able to get on par with men financially. With that being said... it comes at a cost. No family or kids will be in the picture. That's the point. 😂
@@rose-cq5xpthe only kind of man that's happy to live his entire life without kids and a family are gay men...so good luck with that. Hell even gay men adopt children😂 So you might not have much luck with them either.
This is ridiculous. Women who have made a living from leading with their sexuality don't like when men treat them like sex objects. It's laughable. Mel is great at never answering a direct question that will refute her point and moving goalposts.
mel needs to stick to simple yes or no answers lol... her muffin be gettin cooked lol.. especially when she tries to get in her "explanation" bag... that shit is like a nuc just waiting to go off in her face lol.....
The conversation of marital vows was good.. I think the one thing everyone failed to consider is that the vows as written account for potential change through the course of your marriage. Richer or poorer, better or worse-- it is inferred in the wows that things will not always be constant in the marriage. You will have good and bad. The vows are taken because you feel that you have found the person that you wish to face those changes with, rather than completely goving up on the relationship. Things change, you and your partner have to be willing to confront the changes together and come out on the other side.
This pod does need another woman onboard, to help Mel consume the convo before throwing herself in. Shout out to her and the other woman. Shout out to the bois, Ish is him. 👑
Am I toxic bcs I think the chemistry of the JBP is so addictive at 45:55 😂🤣😂 Joe and Ish brothering Mel while she stay ladylike Flip is the onlooking younger brother and Parks and Ice in their own world! I love the JBP
Mel sucks the air out the room and only see her side. She uses alot of words but says nothing...when confronted she argues instead of trying to see it from another perspective
At 40 minutes in, I could not continue to listen as background noise and had to sit down and listen!!! I love how Mel said "this is how I feel", and everyone said "YOU CANT ARGUE WITH HOW SHE FEELS"! I KNOW!!!! We always miss that point in conversations! IF someone feels a certain way, that's how they feel! No argument there! Also, it exposes a level of truth of how Men feel towards women!! If women can't see that, then we are again at fault!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤ that is how I feel!!!!
Was waiting for someone to say you are what you attract. If you attract trash then maybe… then birds of a feather flock together explains why their friends also agree
All I gotta say is this shows why certain woman are single without children and maybe will stay that way. Every man on this couch is either married or in a relationship so they have to have some type of understanding of woman needs. Certain woman just want to run a man to ruin and you see it on the couch
i commented a few uploads ago i thought all the episodes that show how terrible mel is were being put out on purpose. i think that x1000 now. & she's been outperformed by EVERY woman who's been on the pod
@@quilluntouchableentity2034 but she's been terrible in almost every youtube upload in the past 3 weeks. either its intentional or she's the worst podcaster of all time. maybe putting the reason behind "trimming the tree" public.
Melyssa Ford pointed out that, for the first time in history, there is significant attention given to women's thoughts and emotions. However, what often remains unaddressed is the perception that men don't prioritize or concern themselves with the feelings or thoughts of men.
Also, that less than 70 years after being allowed to voice their thoughts and emotions, the things they have to say and think make you think our ancestors had a point 🤷🏽
Letting slavery comments fly from somebody that's not even black while telling that man change his word on a point he wasn't even trying to make is WILD 😂
@@ahippiesoul I simply was saying Mel should've told shorty the 2 slavery comments she made was unnecessary (especially cause she's not black). Point could've been made without that but when the dudes say anything(offensive or not), she picks apart everything they say even when it's strictly just to start a discussion
Mel and Shanti is full of themselves and both are using their looks to get what they want . What you bring to the table is how you will get treated 🤷🏾♂️
Ish saying that women in heir 40's and 50's that don't have families so they can focus on their careers really got to Mel. She turned into "I am woman hear me roar" real fast. She took it personal.
was ish “i am man hear me roar”?
She took it personal because she regrets doing that but she will never honestly say that
@@kale7209this is hilarious bc why do women respond like this 😂
@@kale7209😂😂😂 what?
She was definitely triggered.
This conversation is the prime example of if you let women talk long enough, they discredit their own points they blindly try to make
Well said and so for men as well
Flip flopping like a motherfucker 😂
@@diamonddivat6919we talking about yall tho . Stop tryna deflect .. ya all do that shit lol
@@Mayo2014 NO the conversation is about both so pay attention to what is being said and stop seeing things one sided
@@diamonddivat6919all the men stuck
To their topics you’re just making up things to be disagreeable further proving the point
Mel’s rant proves why she’s apart of the women of today
Whole heartedly lmao 27:37
Think she tries to please all sides instead of speaking how she really feel and that’s with any of her takes…she gotta start listening to her pod brothers
Give that man ish the most valuable muffin man award. That walk off was elite 🏆 I’m signing up to patreon right now!
This is NOT hate. This episode is the EXACT reason Mel is in her upper 40’s and single. She can say it’s by choice, which it could be, but she approaches fundamental relationship situations like a teenager. For a person who talks about her worldly experience and wide network of friends, she thinks using big words during flawed arguments makes her seem smarter.
You're exactly what mel is talking about.. you hate women,
All of this! It’s scary that she almost 50 with this mindset. I can totally see why she’s single.
@@eunithacollins7433 naw respectfully, this is facts. Very scary for anybody to have such a wild mindset that’s 30+ smh
Its only gonna get worst. Mel is still a nice looking woman so she gets a lot of attention from men I'm sure. Most attractive women are chronically single. They have too many options so they're quick to dismiss someone with the thought that something better will always come along. Social media has tripled that effect. Its a never ending cycle.
Correct
Mel said all that at the 25:00 mark and literally made Ish’s point in a thousand words 😂😂😂 this is great 🔥
Discarded the whole statement the young lady said
Cuz she is a dummy
Labeling it as a “disregard” is a negative connotation to the “choice” made. Yes, it’s a conscious choice. It’s also a ‘choice’ that’s feels more like an ultimatum.
The wording is what she asked to be changed because that’s not an accurate or fair framing. She didn’t say change your thought, she said change the word.
@@JennHeartsYou92 you can’t change words words already have meaning they’re already established that’s the problem everybody everybody’s trying to change the meaning of words to what they want to change it to
@@JennHeartsYou92 you’re as bad as Mel. She said don’t say “discount” And she accepted disregard 😂 oh lord
Mel is the woman Kevin Samuels always talked about 😂
Mel is the walking, breathing personification of "modern day feminism"...
In the worst way
She's old and stuck in her feminist victim complex.
It’s nasty I wish she would stop doin that it’s ugly on her lik them wigs no cap
@@zykeyusokray7881right 😂😂
She's very annoying
Lol Mel lost the argument with Ish then started playing victim.
“Change the word!”
Bruh what are we doing 😂
Podson was cookin
You peeped that lmao!??? She got so mad that she lost she had to find SOMETHING to be mad about 😂😂😂😂
Exactly tryna say change the word to make her feel better 😂
She was TIGHT!!! 😭😭
ATT ALL THE TIME
The Muffin Man is definitely an earned title for Ish. Man was on point 👏🏾👏🏾
Ish cooking them muffins like he got a deal with Pilsbury 😂
😂😂
The irony of a woman who enjoyed, made a living off of & cashed out on men who “admired” her body, now fighting to not be seen through those same eyes, is not lost on me.
They never see the hypocrisy of the situation. They also fail to realize that they don’t allow access to men in order to have such a strong opinion on how men think. If they not making money they won’t have a conversation let alone date them 😂
Shanti is a bird flapping her wings
15:20 How can she speak of the majority if she’s only been around men she knew? But when men make those same generalizations, it’s called misogyny
Notice how much more upset Mel was this episode than the other girl even though they both were disagreeing with the guys. The older they are the more bitter they are. The wall is undefeated. DANGER zoneeeee! (The other girl is just as delusional though)
Facts
Mel is there every week tho
She has this same argument with these guys all the time.
i stand with Ish .. he was cooking logically .. i felt the narratives trying to be spun to make him look like a bad guy
I agree 👍🏾
The men that feel offended by Mel bringing up VALID points.. automatically ASSUME that she is trying to WIN an argument.Then glorify ISH for supposedly WINNING an argument... To which Mel clearly said that it was never something to win. It was just adult having healthy dialogue... BOTH Men and ISH did acknowledge some of each other's points. Yes there were points made from both sides that neither agreed. ISH repeatedly said that he wanted MEL to see what he was saying was right.... Meanwhile the specfics group of men in the comments section continue to paint this toxic narrative that Mel is trying to win or that she got BAKED on the conversation 🤣🤣🤣. It almost seems that the example that Mel SHANTI gave about some men really only seeing the value in women is through sex. Mel then stated that SOME not all men could just be ANGRY with women. BOth shanti and MEL stated that from their experience and the women around them... Some men act as if they see no value in women or hate women. MEL EXPLAINED that she wasn't saying that the men on the podcast hates woman. She was sharing a cohesive experience that herself and other woman MARRIED, SIGNAL OR WIDOWED from across the GLOBE has shared.... She also was TRUTHFUL by saying that though she believes it is a LARGE group of women who feel this way by certain MEN... She honest enough to explain that it would be impossible for her to give an actual statical NUMBER because there are many nuances...🤓She also then goes back to explaining that it isn't all men that hates woman. ISH continue to listen with the intention to crack MEL muffins.... But when she asked is it to much to believe that a man could only have the desire to STICK his dick in 1 man.... ISH makes a fainted point and walks off never answering the question 😂😂👀👀 Creating the false sense that he drop the mic but he was escaping the question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣let's be clear LIBRARY made great points but a few of his takes contradicts his daily male banter or his responses towards previous naivety when she has had HOPES that a man could be honest when he says that he is only fucking her👀👀👀BUT..... He also puts Mel in the group of women that calls all men dogs... Or think that no man can be FAITHFULLY fucking one woman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👀🤓let's be clear both mel and ish probably have both misspoke of contradicted themselves during the pod history.... But giving the nature of this conversation 😳😳😳 Both men and women she understands that it's okay to hold Mel accountable and ish for the wild takes...... For example EVERYTIME MEL Mentioned that she knows so many women that has been SEXUAL ABUSE SEXUALLY ABUSED SEXUALLY ABUSED 👀👀👀👀 But for some reason the room gets quite women you ask men do they know a RAPIST.... 😳😳😳😳🤣🤣 So to be fair YES some women lie about these situations.... But the fact that in certain rooms you can get an empty room when it comes to asking me if they know any rapist is WILD... come seriously...don't you think? Really put the gender wars aside. That same silence behavior that SOME men has when holding other men accountable is Dangerous. Vice versa it's dangerous when WOMEN don't acknowledge that some women do like. 🤓🤓🤓 How much is it to see the both perspective and to not feel the need to want to pick aside of a person versus selecting the side that clear and transparent? Also for the real supporters go back and watch the episode when MEL Mentioned her ex that GHOSTED her when her mom was diagnosed 👀👀 The reaction the guys are saying now .. WAS NOT THERE INITIAL REACTION... the laugh at her for being naive to think a man that is living in London was going only fuck her ..... Ish also supported the statement by saying that at one point in his life he had (10) (10) (10) yes he said TEN girls In 1 city..... The occasional banter that the men on the pod and some other men gives when MEL talk about male friends that she has had... SOMETIMES is always laugh at or portrait that mel is a fool for thinking any of her Mel friends are not trying to have sex or would have sex.... They make fun of her for pour judgment...... But then turn around and contradicts themselves because........................... These same MEN considered Mel as a friend or a co worker. So is she naive to believe that the men on the pod do not want to have sex with her🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 it's like you guys come on... It's wildly contradicting and gas lightish to play on both sides on the scenario. Mel is either to naive or she with the group of all the other women that think that MEN AINT SHIT. PICK A SIDE GENTLEMAN 😜😜🤓😂🌻
OH and lastly, Shanti made the point as to why more women are over sexualized because it appears that most men only see women value in SEX or a notch on their belt ..... Here me out guys❤️❤️❤️👀👀🤣🙄 let's not act like when Joe and ish talk about their JERSEY as in sexual women sport BAGGING male game has been put up as a badge of honor. These same guys used to .... because they are in relationships now ...and I'm assuming that they are FAITHFUL 🙏🙏 LOOK AT WOMEN FOR FUCKING purposes...
Ish even went as far to express that YES When a man see a woman he is sizing her up to FIRST see if she is something he would FUCK..... But then he walks of the pod when MEL ASK the cast is it too much to ask a man to fuck ONE vagina 🤣🤣🤣. Anyway this was great.
Yeah he was killing shit
Ish aint said ish. He a poor mans version of Trump
Everything goes to crap when they start to generilize and Ish is the same this whole Men Women things is goofy. it's about different circumstances lifestyles and choices
I love watching the 5 people in long term relationships trying to have a conversation & the 2 single ones screaming at the top of they lungs 😭
Lol right!!
On God
What does them being single have to do with anything, they still made some solid points
@oladeebiazazi4538 yeah 1 valid point out of 12 attempts ain't nothing to brag about
@@oladeebiazazi4538 This was also before the Reverse Cowgirl episode. Mel been here, what, over a year? You can make a 45 minute to hour compilation of her sounding absolutely ridiculous. And that's just on these types of topics alone. Any time the woman isn't put eons above the man, Mel's ready to flip the table over. I enjoy hearing people speak with intelligence, not emotion & Mel just doesn't bring that.
Great camera work to start the episode .. you caught the right moment
AMEN!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hella CAKE
Was looking for this comment, generational camera work 🫡
Referring to the conversation starting at 1:34:00....only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is loved under the condition that he provides something - Chris Rock
Shanti got a lot to learn…the more I listen to modern western women I think that we are doomed
Facts shit crazy bruh lol
Mel has no accountability it’s sick
disgusting fr… and to know it’s millions of women who think like this in the world is beyond insane
Sick is an understatement 😪 As a women its frustrating to hear her talk!She talk like she hate men and its so many women like this and its disturbing!!
Shes the same one who literally profited off her body, and was a video girl but then wants to say men just wanna have sex with women? You are literally apart of the woman of the problem shut up
She’s one of those women who can’t stand being wrong
She is unbearable 🤦🏾♂️
lmao i love Mel on the pod. she be reminding me of what the real bird logic is. love this fuckin pod man 😂😂😂
Ice starting the car as Mel is saying “gaslight me” and Joe getting up and walking off makes this whole segment beyond hilarious 😂
THESE GUYS WORK WELL TOGETHER , WELL DONE GUYS .
that´s joe coward side that shows up from time to time ...when Mel hits a nerve in men women conversation joe always walks away because his usual response is clowning or ridiculing and he couldn´t do it at that point
Mel is the only person that can use an anecdotal example & speak in general at the sametime 😂
Lol mel whole argument was dismantled by shorty once she started talking about she not f$&kn unless you paying for everything and cheating 😂🤣😂
Joe letting us brokies eat good. I know the patronies pissed 🤷🏽♂️😂😂
😂😂😂😂
They hate us and we don’t care!..Salute 🫡🫡🫡
😂
Not really. There is alot more content that we still dont get. They not trippin
Like you’re not paying for this through ads and by sitting through it out of the billions of other contents.
Ish said discounted a family life and Ford felt attacked lol
Frfr that was it she felt personally attacked after that
And then she proceeds to call men of today BETAs because she had her feelings hurt lmao
It’s so funny seeing all the men peep all her tactics she does out of being bitter and hurt lmao ..men aren’t falling for it any more 😂😂😂
She plays both sides well. She's definitely Joe's friend
😂😂😂
These episodes where there’s a real breaking down of everybody’s side, is really when this podcast peaks my interest. Usually I fall asleep but I could see me in these conversations cooking myself. Mel and Ish’s passion was the jumpstart to the rest of the conversation riding out.
Even if planned out, it’s a great actualizing of the concept they had before the pod.
45:00 That Ish walkoff😂😂😂😂 Chef's Kiss😂😂 let him cook!!
Ish was in Muffin Man mode this whole pod .. if Mel ever gets casted to play “The Victim” she’s immediately an Oscar winner .. she should get a Manager & look into that🤷🏾♂️
Oscar winner😂
💯
Ok. What I learned about the bbl girl is that she’s a golddigger.
A man has to pay your bills to give him a chance. Smh
She watches too much Fresh and Fit, that's all (not that I'm saying they're wrong). She reciting their lines instead of speaking her mind.
This episode is a perfect example of why men can't have serious conversations with some women. MEL said like 30x Ish and Joe was right in their stance just to make a frivolous argument that they shouldn't be right because her feelings tell her no 😅😅😅 based on her experiences and what SHE specifically identifies with... can't make this comedic gold up 😅😂😂
It’s really not that deep.
To anyone else who read this and either be in they feelings or feel defensive. This is all fun games to me hence me laughing. So breath and remember this the internet not the debate team 😅😅😂😂
@@moringaottawait wasn’t, don’t make it.
It’s because when women make valid points men try to reduce them to statistics that y’all know don’t exist lol “I’ve spoken to women globally and we have had similar experiences” them: “what percentage of men are like that!” Like stfu there is no studies because all of these things are just based in general experiences doesn’t make any of it less true
Ish was cooking 🧑🍳 🔥 this pod
Mel was MAD quiet when the girl was talking about being down for the patrioarcy lol Ish called her out on it too.
And this is why Mel is 50 and single! 😂 All them damn answers and no man. 🤣
Mad word salad 😅
😆😂🤣
Joe doesn’t get enough credit for navigating these episodes man
i hate joe but he a genius
Melissa tries so hard to come across as this classy and above everyone type of chick, but got schooled by this young chick 🔥
Solid and good answers
*ALL THOSE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WASTED* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shorty is light years ahead of Mel in common sense😂😂😂😂
@@eddieogun Bro. She got the panel shooked with her answers 😂😂😂😂
The men that feel offended by Mel bringing up VALID points.. automatically ASSUME that she is trying to WIN an argument.Then glorify ISH for supposedly WINNING an argument... To which Mel clearly said that it was never something to win. It was just adult having healthy dialogue... BOTH Men and ISH did acknowledge some of each other's points. Yes there were points made from both sides that neither agreed. ISH repeatedly said that he wanted MEL to see what he was saying was right.... Meanwhile the specfics group of men in the comments section continue to paint this toxic narrative that Mel is trying to win or that she got BAKED on the conversation 🤣🤣🤣. It almost seems that the example that Mel SHANTI gave about some men really only seeing the value in women is through sex. Mel then stated that SOME not all men could just be ANGRY with women. BOth shanti and MEL stated that from their experience and the women around them... Some men act as if they see no value in women or hate women. MEL EXPLAINED that she wasn't saying that the men on the podcast hates woman. She was sharing a cohesive experience that herself and other woman MARRIED, SIGNAL OR WIDOWED from across the GLOBE has shared.... She also was TRUTHFUL by saying that though she believes it is a LARGE group of women who feel this way by certain MEN... She honest enough to explain that it would be impossible for her to give an actual statical NUMBER because there are many nuances...🤓She also then goes back to explaining that it isn't all men that hates woman. ISH continue to listen with the intention to crack MEL muffins.... But when she asked is it to much to believe that a man could only have the desire to STICK his dick in 1 man.... ISH makes a fainted point and walks off never answering the question 😂😂👀👀 Creating the false sense that he drop the mic but he was escaping the question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣let's be clear LIBRARY made great points but a few of his takes contradicts his daily male banter or his responses towards previous naivety when she has had HOPES that a man could be honest when he says that he is only fucking her👀👀👀BUT..... He also puts Mel in the group of women that calls all men dogs... Or think that no man can be FAITHFULLY fucking one woman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👀🤓let's be clear both mel and ish probably have both misspoke of contradicted themselves during the pod history.... But giving the nature of this conversation 😳😳😳 Both men and women she understands that it's okay to hold Mel accountable and ish for the wild takes...... For example EVERYTIME MEL Mentioned that she knows so many women that has been SEXUAL ABUSE SEXUALLY ABUSED SEXUALLY ABUSED 👀👀👀👀 But for some reason the room gets quite women you ask men do they know a RAPIST.... 😳😳😳😳🤣🤣 So to be fair YES some women lie about these situations.... But the fact that in certain rooms you can get an empty room when it comes to asking me if they know any rapist is WILD... come seriously...don't you think? Really put the gender wars aside. That same silence behavior that SOME men has when holding other men accountable is Dangerous. Vice versa it's dangerous when WOMEN don't acknowledge that some women do like. 🤓🤓🤓 How much is it to see the both perspective and to not feel the need to want to pick aside of a person versus selecting the side that clear and transparent? Also for the real supporters go back and watch the episode when MEL Mentioned her ex that GHOSTED her when her mom was diagnosed 👀👀 The reaction the guys are saying now .. WAS NOT THERE INITIAL REACTION... the laugh at her for being naive to think a man that is living in London was going only fuck her ..... Ish also supported the statement by saying that at one point in his life he had (10) (10) (10) yes he said TEN girls In 1 city..... The occasional banter that the men on the pod and some other men gives when MEL talk about male friends that she has had... SOMETIMES is always laugh at or portrait that mel is a fool for thinking any of her Mel friends are not trying to have sex or would have sex.... They make fun of her for pour judgment...... But then turn around and contradicts themselves because........................... These same MEN considered Mel as a friend or a co worker. So is she naive to believe that the men on the pod do not want to have sex with her🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 it's like you guys come on... It's wildly contradicting and gas lightish to play on both sides on the scenario. Mel is either to naive or she with the group of all the other women that think that MEN AINT SHIT. PICK A SIDE GENTLEMAN 😜😜🤓😂🌻
OH and lastly, Shanti made the point as to why more women are over sexualized because it appears that most men only see women value in SEX or a notch on their belt ..... Here me out guys❤️❤️❤️👀👀🤣🙄 let's not act like when Joe and ish talk about their JERSEY as in sexual women sport BAGGING male game has been put up as a badge of honor. These same guys used to .... because they are in relationships now ...and I'm assuming that they are FAITHFUL 🙏🙏 LOOK AT WOMEN FOR FUCKING purposes...
Ish even went as far to express that YES When a man see a woman he is sizing her up to FIRST see if she is something he would FUCK..... But then he walks of the pod when MEL ASK the cast is it too much to ask a man to fuck ONE vagina 🤣🤣🤣. Anyway this was great.
Her age came to the forefront at the end.
I can guarantee my last dollar Shante is single too
That boy Ish be cooking on this show!
Mel, I have a question about the London guy.... If he would've been honest and said this is 2 much for me it's only been 7 months. What would you have done/said?
In my experience it's a conversation most men don't want to have bcuz of the reaction. Some women can't let it just be the honest truth and they need closure bcuz they're hurt. They don't realize the honesty is the closure. That said honesty is always the win.
This was what I was asking myself. I came to the conclusion that she would have said the following...
'Man F u, u piece of s***. You were just using me and don't know how to handle a real women. I was getting small d*** energy from you anyway'.
Maybe the small D energy was too much, but you get the jist 🤣
Mel thinking someone owes you to grieve and go through a life changing event at 7 months and living in another country is CRAZY ‼️
Whenever you run into a single older women, and you talk to them about relationahips and there perspective on the opposite sex.. you start to see why theyre single, their always a victim, they see the opposite sex as a "sex machine" and their ENTIRE mindset is an anticipation of negativity, if you pay attention closely theyre arguing to opposite sex AND battling there poisoned mindset that constantly injects doubt.
Omg joe you have a full on incel base 😣😩 12:37
@moringaottawa 40 yr old exposed
Ish killed her with the" let yall tell it,no"😅
I see why Mel is approaching 50 and single 😂😂😂
No cap
28:35 And that is still a very very very small demographic of the same kind of women within the same circles dealing with same men who supposed only see women as useful for what she said.
“LIBRARY” is the most logical cast member on the JBP.
Mel, you're right... this is the first time in history that women have been able to get on par with men financially. With that being said... it comes at a cost. No family or kids will be in the picture. That's the point. 😂
Because men can’t adapt to that. Women can adapt. Men throw a whole fit over that.
@@88til_inf throw a fit over what?
Yes that is the point. And fyi, not all women desire kids. A partner who has similar career goals is more than enough for some.
@@rose-cq5xpthe only kind of man that's happy to live his entire life without kids and a family are gay men...so good luck with that. Hell even gay men adopt children😂 So you might not have much luck with them either.
Joe can easily become a comedian! And im here for it!!!
Flip shadowing Mel is killing me 😂😂😂
Bruh I’m cryin’ at flip 😂😂😂😂😂
What Mel hears and what they actually say is vastly different lol
She listens to respond, not understand and it’s exhausting 😩
This is ridiculous. Women who have made a living from leading with their sexuality don't like when men treat them like sex objects. It's laughable. Mel is great at never answering a direct question that will refute her point and moving goalposts.
She’s the ultimate goalpost mover.
mel needs to stick to simple yes or no answers lol... her muffin be gettin cooked lol.. especially when she tries to get in her "explanation" bag... that shit is like a nuc just waiting to go off in her face lol.....
@@PhaceizDanamelmao she’s a low level thinker trying really hard to seem smart. Look how difficult it is for her to comprehend stay in school kids 😂
It sounds like the Cuban girl dnt care if you look at her like a sexual object.. you just gotta pay her bills
Fam you do realize people aren’t their careers right. If ya friend is a plumber you not gonna only hit him up to fix plumbing issues
That lady said just pay my bills we aint got to conversate 😂😂😂😂... i love deep conversation with my man..
Shanti sounds like a BIRD 🦅
The conversation of marital vows was good.. I think the one thing everyone failed to consider is that the vows as written account for potential change through the course of your marriage. Richer or poorer, better or worse-- it is inferred in the wows that things will not always be constant in the marriage. You will have good and bad. The vows are taken because you feel that you have found the person that you wish to face those changes with, rather than completely goving up on the relationship. Things change, you and your partner have to be willing to confront the changes together and come out on the other side.
Mel went on a 20 minute tangent to not address a single point at all🤣
They need someone that has read history books and culture books
Political books as well lol. Like damn yall, don't read shit but I love the pod
You're asking a lot from a crew that watches Power
Love Dorsey.
@Browneye475 lmao you're right, mah bad. My expectations are too high. Still this my fav pod.
This! They could really use, me. LBVS.
Now i see why people say Mel is annoying. Her love life makes sense now
You just got it? Damn, took you long enough lol
This pod does need another woman onboard, to help Mel consume the convo before throwing herself in. Shout out to her and the other woman. Shout out to the bois, Ish is him. 👑
Mel will still not listen
Love that Joe lets Mel and ish debate n then chimes in with gold 🪙
Am I toxic bcs I think the chemistry of the JBP is so addictive at 45:55 😂🤣😂 Joe and Ish brothering Mel while she stay ladylike Flip is the onlooking younger brother and Parks and Ice in their own world! I love the JBP
.its crazy how all the single people are always the know it all about relationships and yet not in a relationship.😂😂😂😂😂salute jbp stay bless fam.
i thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
1:04:34 aye ish bouta lose his shit 😂😂😂
I’m glad I don’t pay to listen to Mel’s terrible takes on life 😂
That stripper girl Made 0 sense the whole pod 😂😂😂😂
facts brah 😂
It would be dope if the JBP put in the description the date the Patreon exclusive episodes are originally aired.
The brookies can’t get everything free Fam 😂😂😂
October 20
Shanty sounds like a real right bird 😂 59:29
Ish was cracking that young lady muffin 😂😂😂😂
FRESH MUFFINS!! 😂😂 That vows convo was 🔥🔥
Great Episode. Great Conversation!💯🔥
Please don't ever bring that young bird back on the show. And I see why the guys "dog pile" on Mel. She uses so many words to say nothing.
Everything you said and rhen some!
My thoughts exactly.
Everything after “our grannies did” got me in tears 😭😭 everybody facial reaction man
48:02 ayo these niggas funny asl 🤣🤣🤣
"Society dictated a womans worth to creating progeny" Yet she's known for being an escort
Jesus Christ
o my worddd.
☠️☠️🔥🔥🔥
This episode should’ve been called Muffins 😂😂😂
Muffin man dropped a triple double on Mel and Shanty
Captain of the debate team🤷😂
6:54 mel be annoying me but how could u not love her 😂😂😂
I love when airheads think their cooking 😂
right 😂
This was a needed conversation. I luv love.
🗣️💯🔥
I get Mel’s reason for the pod but we need a new ”Mel”
Idk if a new one more than another one like to go along with ..
Yes
Shanti had zero meaningful contribution
13:00 once mel started talking, this whole pod went left 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 birds of a feather flock together, Mel and Shanti
Mel sucks the air out the room and only see her side. She uses alot of words but says nothing...when confronted she argues instead of trying to see it from another perspective
“Let y’all tell it no” 😂😂😂😂 ish too sassy
Had to restart the vid a couple times,,,I was Amazed👀
Nah fr caught me off guard
bro ong 😂
Yall snapped at the top of the pod with that convo. I love how yall have an additional woman with Mel. Bravo
At 40 minutes in, I could not continue to listen as background noise and had to sit down and listen!!! I love how Mel said "this is how I feel", and everyone said "YOU CANT ARGUE WITH HOW SHE FEELS"! I KNOW!!!! We always miss that point in conversations! IF someone feels a certain way, that's how they feel! No argument there! Also, it exposes a level of truth of how Men feel towards women!! If women can't see that, then we are again at fault!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤ that is how I feel!!!!
Was waiting for someone to say you are what you attract. If you attract trash then maybe… then birds of a feather flock together explains why their friends also agree
Straight like that 💯
All I gotta say is this shows why certain woman are single without children and maybe will stay that way. Every man on this couch is either married or in a relationship so they have to have some type of understanding of woman needs. Certain woman just want to run a man to ruin and you see it on the couch
Good one
i commented a few uploads ago i thought all the episodes that show how terrible mel is were being put out on purpose. i think that x1000 now. & she's been outperformed by EVERY woman who's been on the pod
She's just annoying now
Joe knew what he was doing when called the pod "Trimming the tree" he knew where everyone's mind would go.
@@quilluntouchableentity2034 but she's been terrible in almost every youtube upload in the past 3 weeks. either its intentional or she's the worst podcaster of all time. maybe putting the reason behind "trimming the tree" public.
She a drunk. And she always turning her nose up at ish
Y'all hating for no reason. That girl and Mel agreed with Mel 90% of the time. And they disagreed with the girl more than Mel.🤷🏿♂️
1:04:35 ayo Cory funny asl 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Mel had an epiphany around 34 mins 😆 she realized that it's the men she's choosing, and how she moves in those situations.
Dropping bangers back to back
“I studied biology are you saying I’m wrong?” 😂😂😂
Melyssa Ford pointed out that, for the first time in history, there is significant attention given to women's thoughts and emotions. However, what often remains unaddressed is the perception that men don't prioritize or concern themselves with the feelings or thoughts of men.
Also, that less than 70 years after being allowed to voice their thoughts and emotions, the things they have to say and think make you think our ancestors had a point 🤷🏽
Parks "Side baby" didn't get no response is wild. 😅😅
Letting slavery comments fly from somebody that's not even black while telling that man change his word on a point he wasn't even trying to make is WILD 😂
Not sure what you were trying to say here, but I really hate when Hispanics use the N word. I find it so offensive.
@@ahippiesoul I simply was saying Mel should've told shorty the 2 slavery comments she made was unnecessary (especially cause she's not black). Point could've been made without that but when the dudes say anything(offensive or not), she picks apart everything they say even when it's strictly just to start a discussion
@@luuxeku754 ohhh ok I see! You’re 100% correct! I agree.
Mel and Shanti is full of themselves and both are using their looks to get what they want . What you bring to the table is how you will get treated 🤷🏾♂️
Just cuz u go to college doesn't mean you have common sense. She's the proof