yellow brow was rescued from the sea by fishermen, who did not harm him. He did not think this was kindness. The fishermen benefited from yellow brow's flesh and blood, so they provided him with food, worshipped him as a god, and built a temple for him. He did not think this was kindness. The government did not embezzle wealth, but distributed jewelry fairly to the poor. He did not think this was kindness. When a person blinded by greed appeared in the crowd, yellow brow took the initiative to guide him to commit a crime (the collar of the man with a knife was pulled by yellow brow), and like an avalanche, he detonated the evil in the hearts of others. In the end, yellow brow proved his original theory: human nature is evil. Jinchanzi said that he was obsessed with winning and losing, and he was a pathetic guy. Because yellow brow first had a theory, and then got the result he wanted by guiding reality. Instead of practicing in reality and finally summarizing the theory through the results. Even if there are 100 parts of kindness, as long as there is one evil, yellow brow will make the result lead to evil.
The ugly creature is actually Yellow-brow in the game. Yellow-brow and JinChanzi (the master of Wukong) had an argument on whether human is inherently good or evil. Yellow-brow believes the latter, so he transformed into that creature to prove it to JinChanzi. If you look closely, in the animation, the person who stab the creature first is controlled by the creature to provoke others. All Yellow-brow cares about is winning the argument, so he orchestrated the whole thing just to prove a point. On the other hand, JinChanzi focuses on saving people from the pain of reincarnation, which is more important to him. That's why he said "You sow the chaos in hearts just for the sake of winning. How absurd and pathetic." Edit： Thanks for all the likes. For English is not my first language, remember to check out more comments below which explain the story much better than mine. One thing I want to add here. Even though I’m from Taiwan, seeing everyone talking about their take on the story in the comment section, I am proud that China made such a great game. Setting aside politics and conflict of ideology, this game allows people from different parts of the world to experience a classic Chinese literature and to be curious about the story and meaning behind it. Most importantly, the greatest achievement of all is that this story is told by the Chinese, not by some big game company from other country. I guess this is why Concord failed, but this exotic game is successful. We need more games like this!!
This is the first time for me thinking about what “humanity” and “kindness” is, and I’m so glad that the Chinese culture based game could be linked and touched by so many people with different cultural background. I believe this is the meaning of the game.
Yellowbrow makes me think of a youtuber driving a luxury car full of PS5s into a poor neighborhood and leaving it overnight with a camera pointed at it from the bushes for a rage-bait video. But the people of the neighborhood are actually good and nothing happens to the car. So Yellowbrow has to hire a crackhead to go and break the car's window and steal one of the PS5s, and due to the "broken window effect", other people slowly start stealing too and by the next morning all PS5s are gone and the car is completely vandalized with the wheels stolen and the leather interior stripped. Then Yellowbrow who has been watching from the bushes just jumps out with glee going "SEE?! I TOLD YOU CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL!"
Says the one with extreme bias towards humans. It doesn't matter how prejudiced he is, this wouldn't happen if they were actually good, he didn't force them to do it, they simply did it.
@@wiswc when we were doing our research paper, a bias would affect the researchers -- they would skew the result to their bias, either unconsciously or consciously. That's why it goes through a review with your research advisor then it goes through a panel. So whatever premise Yellowbrow tried to prove here is... he was unable to prove it. plus someone made a good point: 1. He may or may not have been rescued instead of left alone to die. 2. He was allowed to live instead of killed and fed to the starving village 3. He was worshipped instead of being imprisoned. 4. It looked like he was allowed agency when to give his blood away instead of being bled by the villagers. 5. It looked like the villagers spread the wealth instead of being hoarded by the few. 6. not all of the villagers bled and gutted him, some tried to stop it. Anyway, even if you ignore the above, Yellowbrow still invalidatd whatever he wanted to prove. He messed with the numbers --- he was the one who prompted that one person to stab him.
@@wiswc you trying to explain this to them will not work, easy to understand why so many people would try their hardest to justify having a weak mind😂😂 they all want to believe that being given the simple option to act evil was pushing them over the edge. As a species that lives in groups, humans have always benefited more from kindness, for some reason the fact that just to exist in a type of society you allready have more to gain from being kind is not seen as manipulating the result, but the moment people are given a single option to gain more from acting evil they are manipulated and the datta provided is inconclusive😂😂 this is how sheep live their meaningless lives perpetuating evil and justifying It by saying It simply didn't originate with them😢😢
the story telling in BM:W is unmatched. all the cutscenes have meaning, and done beautifully. for me, the cutscenes in this game was the real reward everytime i killed a boss.
Once upon a time a rich man put a piece of bread in front of a poor man who was about to starve to death, and told the poor man, "This is mine, you can't eat it", and then he intentionally turned away, and the poor man, who was starving, took the opportunity to eat the bread. The rich man laughed and pointed at the poor man and shouted, "Look! These poor people are so shameless! They only steal from others!" It was never humanity that Yellow brow tested, he was playing with it. It was the arrogant superior bullying and humiliating the inferior.
It's always someone's fault isn't it? Even in your horrible example, it doesn't change anything, theft and greed aren't justified by hardship, you're responsible for your own actions regardless, and so yes the they are horrible and if most humans are like them then they are horrible too.
@@aroonsubway2079it literally doesn't work on any level, he gave them things for rescuing him and feeding him, it was a give and take relationship, not "a rich man taunting a poor man and giving them nothing" Stop with your victim bs.
@@wiswc A crime is a crime you are right, but punishing only the appearance of evil will never stop evil. The root of the problem has never been human nature, but class ,impoverished and unfairness. When the rich man takes off the trappings of wealth, you will realize that he's no different than the poor man and he couldn't control his greed either
for those who are wondering Yellow Brow, a creature rescued from the sea, believed that humans are inherently evil. Even when fishermen fed him, worshipped him, and built a temple for him, he saw it as a means to exploit his flesh and blood. He also didn't consider the government's fair distribution of jewelry to the poor as an act of kindness. To prove his point, Yellow Brow manipulated a greedy man into committing a crime, triggering a wave of evil behavior in others. This confirmed his belief that human nature is fundamentally evil. However, Jinchanzi criticized Yellow Brow for being obsessed with proving his theory, rather than learning from real-world experiences. Jinchanzi argued that even one evil act could overshadow countless acts of kindness.
A lot of people are missing the last sentence spoken by Yellow Brow: "if not for winning, why debate over means and ends"? The fact that Jinchanzi is criticizing his methods show there's an implicit bias for his own belief coming out on top. Jinchanzi argues as if constructing a scenario to show the nature of humans is wrong, when really not having any intentionality is a construction of a scenario itself (as Jinchanzi seems to have the undertone that the results would fall in his favor instead).
Someone wants to prove causality by complaining about human greed. In the animation, the setting is that Yellowbrow can generate jewels by eating seafood, and the small village is a poor fishing village. Yellowbrow can use magic to bring down fish, but at the same time, a tornado also destroys the fishing boats. In other words, Yellowbrow destroyed the village's original economic foundation, making the villagers dependent on him. As a result, with development, around Yellowbrow , monks, officers, and bureaucrats appeared, but most people remained poor and lost their original means of production (fishing boats and tools). All they could do was pray for a portion of the jewels from the accountant. Yellowbrow could have taught the fishermen to adapt to nature, make tools, grow herbs, and other means of livelihood. But he didn't do that. Instead, he made the villagers become foolish, lazy, greedy, and vicious rather than wise, hardworking, generous, and calm. As you sow, so shall you reap. Good begets good, evil begets evil, black and white are reversed, and one gets what one deserves.
Not fake data. He is just showing how easily humans are influenced by others like their leaders etc. Essentially many are sheeple who do much critical thinking for themselves. This is true even in our real world today.
@@zixiaozong9789 he isn't making up fake data. He is illustrating to you how easily influenced some humans are by others. Most humans are sheeple and don't exercise critical thinking themselves.
So then it proves that the glass was always fragile. 😮 Just like human nature. Cause most of us act correctly when times are good. But when something happens…and law and order go out the window, damn near everyone goes bad. And the ones that dont? Either get killed or become bad too. The Walking Dead and literally every post apocalyptic movie shows you what happens to people when they need to survive. The worst parts of them come out.
@@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor during WW2 men did good and evil. men died protecting others. Men ran into the Twin Towers to save as many as they could. We have statues of men who did great good in the face of evil. Even in The Walking Dead, were there no "good" people? was Glenn, not a good guy? Of course, we are not talking black and white here, but more grey areas. If you really believe humans are either good/evil, you are mistaken.
chinese culture is truly fascinating, that's why they made such a game story based on the Journey to the West. the whole game are telling people somthing more than killing and passing bosses characters, epic stories are made of imagination by the people from 5000 years to this decade. this is the power of CULTURE.
well, actually the story was only written in 17th century. but it was truly amazing that China invented Printing Press and demand of good stories boomed at that time. For the first time in human history, everyone has access to books that easily printed rather than manually copied by hand written. Large businesses in entertainment hiring poets, historians, story tellers to compile and create stories based on ancient folklore and historical events. Most great stories were like Journey to the west, Romance of 3 Kingdoms, and many more born from this era. People fell in love so much, they built temples to worship fictional characters as deity.
@@lacdirk yeah I agree, there are many fantastic culture works in the world, but this is the first time Chinese culture can be shown to us in this way, or to me. Some people around me regard Chinese cultural products as Japanese, and this game makes some people, especially young people who are not so interested in the world's traditional culture, truly aware of Chinese cultural works, instead of the first reaction of "oh, this Japanese/Oriental work is not bad". I am just sincerely happy for the success of the developers' vision of promoting Chinese culture.
Yes, what I want to say is that the profound cultural and historical accumulation is a great advantage in creating enduring works. For example, many characters in Journey to the West come from a more ancient time, and some of the ancient Chinese antithetical poems, mythological structures in the book are hard-won.
The final statement has intrigued me since childhood posing a profound existential question rooted in nihilism: "If there's no meaning, why debate means and ends?" Our entire civilization is built on winning or losing like a video game discouraging us to question why to play or introspect about life's true purpose (if it exists)
Humans are Infinite. Infinitely Everything. Infinitely Loving, Hating, Greedy, Generous, Active and Sloth...etc. A river that courses in all directions at once at all times. You need merely to direct that river in the direction that you choose to get an Infinite amount of the direction chosen.
There is nothing infinite about you except arrogance, cruelty and delusion, everything else is limited, love is limited, virtue is limited. The fact that you saw this an opportunity to praise yourself only proves his point further.
2:29 when he stab the Yellowbrow Turtle and we saw his face smilling, the song start with "Three realms, Four lands. Cannot seek nor cant be help" thats hit me like a truck.
It remembers me a popular saying in Brazil: "Little people can't have nothing good." It refers to the incapacity of receiving nature's (or any kind of) goods without taking it for granted, without undervaluating it, without the savage urge to destroy it for greed's sake. It's somewhat similar to "killing the golden goose". What impresses me most in this tale is the fact of people easily and rapidly ignoring how much their life has gotten better after the creature arrival, and how quick the craziness of just one person contaminated almost everyone in the surroundings.
the apple make eve clever and open her eyes here humans are born with greed, the monster just give them a chance to reveal themselves in a way, this is like police using fishing method to draw criminals out.
Simply put, the story is a bet between two billionaires, both are the top 0.1% in any country on earth. Yellowbrow's point: They're pests, lazy, greedy, less than us and there's no cure. Jin Chan Zi's view: You pathetic genius guided them to be like that, they're the same like us in nature, we should help them.
There are two things i got from this story #1 if someone just wants to win an argument or can't stand losing, they will become the cause that proves their own point, even if it's something evil 2# humans are not necessary evil, but easily persuaded into doing evil things, especially if they need the things those evil actions will get them
Jin Chanzi was the second disciple of the Buddha. He reincarnated as the master of Wukong. Edit: "Holy Monk," the Tathagata said, "in an earlier life you were my second disciple, and called Master Golden Cicada... (Chapter 98 of the English translation) or 如来道：“圣僧，汝前世原是我之二徒，名唤金蝉子。..." (the original source) Here Tathagata is a name of THE Buddha, aka Siddhartha Gautama.
This is actually one of the easiest to understand stories in Black Myth Wukong. If you know the lore behind Journey to the West, the game gets 10x deeper. eg why Lingji’s head was actually cut off and how he manipulated the Yellow Wind Sage.
China has a civilization spanning thousands of years, and classics like Journey to the West are just a glimpse of this vast cultural heritage, far from fully capturing its depth. It’s unfortunate that due to China’s setbacks in modern history, the West’s understanding of Chinese culture is often limited to surface impressions or even biased views. Even though we’ve entered the digital age, with translation tools that can achieve near-native fluency, many cultural nuances and deeper spiritual meanings remain difficult to fully convey and grasp. Building that Tower of Babel may still be a distant goal, but there is hope.
@@sanchezeugene9725 your logic lies as follows: greed=sin=evil therefore humans are evil. I can argue on the same logic as follows: Charity=Virtue=Good therefore humans are Good.... Contradiction in this logic of yours. What I implied in that short phrase was that we are not inherently good or evil but have a tendency for both and it is due to our free will that we choose one of those paths. But my understanding is that the tendancy for good is natural and healthy for our own selves so God put that hint for us for the correct option as well. The emotions of charity, helping, empathy, protecting, sacrifice and love will always be above greed, hate, stealing, hurting and selfishness for an individual. No evil person will have internal peace despite having everything and a person with all those good attributes will be content despite having nothing. Budha and every human who tried to acquire those attributes were selfless and content
My interpretation is that this story is a thought-provoking exploration of the fundamental nature of humanity-whether we are inherently good or evil. The monster uses its own life as a lure, tempting human greed, and ultimately being betrayed. This tragic outcome is intended to provoke the destructive side of humanity. However, Jin Chanzi argues that such a result does not definitively prove humanity's inherent evil. It is a simplistic conclusion that fails to consider the underlying reasons for people's actions.
He was controlling that first person to do that to him. Cos the village wasn't reacting the way he wanted them to. He dismissed all the good they did before that. When he finally got tired of waiting, he provoked to do what he believed they would always do.
@@dotaloner5362the monster broke their boats and flung all the fish into their village, he destroyed their source of food and economy leaving them to be dependent on him. He was guiding them all along to do something evil and called it as fact just to try to win a bet he made with the man at the end as implied with the dialogue.
In the novel,Yellowbrow debates with Jinchanzi: Yellowbrow believes that human nature is evil, and it is Buddha who helps people to shed evil and become kind, so people should worship Buddha; Jinchanzi believes that human nature is kind, and Buddha is also kind, therefore people and Buddha are equal. By the way, Jinchanzi is the previous life of Wukong's master.
@@walterwang9790i just want to say the same words bro, they got a freaking amazing and a one of the best of the world 3d animationin in the game I’m the man who born of the China, i’m so proud because our country can make this crazy shit out 😂😂😂
This is one of the most famous debates in ancient China, whether human nature is intrinsically evil or intrinsically good. The conclusion concerns what policies should be adopted to rule the people. One school that supports the fundamental goodness of human nature is the Confucians, whose leader is Confucius, one of the three sculpted figures on the Supreme Court of the United States. The other group, which supported the evil of human nature, was the Legalists, who finally unified China and founded the dynasty Qin
实际上提出人性本恶的是荀子，他同样是儒家的重要人物之一；另外，儒家思想随历史是不断演变的，中间甚至出现过因思想不同而分裂的情况，比如汉朝时的公羊儒和谷梁儒，但儒家核心强调的是道德在国家治理中的作用，通过道德教育去引导人们；而法家并不在意人性的善或恶，他们往往认为道德是不可靠的，因为一个人随时可能从好人变成坏人，唯有利用法律、利益、荣誉去引导和约束人民才能治理好国家，因为我英文不太好，所以英文部分使用了翻译软件，不知道你能不能看懂 In fact, it was Xunzi who suggested that human nature was inherently evil, and he was also one of the important figures of Confucianism, which had evolved over time and even split along different lines, in the Han dynasty, for example, the Confucian school emphasized the role of morality in the governance of the country, guiding people through moral education, while the legalists did not care about the good or evil of human nature, they tend to think that morality is unreliable, because a person can change from a good person to a bad person at any time, and only by using the law, interests, and honor to guide and restrain people can we govern the country well, because my english is not very good, so the English part of the use of translation software, I do not know if you can understand
That's why a phrase said" Learn knowledge till the land of china". Many knowledge of deep attitude's heart come from myth symbolsm. But I know it just phrase, a fabel, a folklore, etc. Best illustration of greedy of animal side of human.
To simplify the context: Jin Chanzi (the monk) and Huang Mei (the ugly soft-shell turtle spirit) were both disciples of Buddha but were cast out due to their misbehavior. Jin Chanzi was reincarnated as Tang Sanzang, Wukong's master in "Journey to the West," a powerless monk in the mortal world. Huang Mei, the soft-shell turtle spirit, reincarnated as the Yellow Brow Monk (Yaoguai). Jin Chanzi believed that humans are not born evil and are worth saving; they only need guidance. This belief set the stage for the journey in "Journey to the West." On the other hand, Huang Mei believed that humans are inherently evil and should follow their nature. To win the argument with Jin Chanzi, Yellow Brow spent many lifetimes trying to prove his point, which might explain why they were both outcast by Buddha.
@@discerningcucumber7559 In a sense Yellow Brow did not conduct a clean experiment, he "sowed chaos in the hearts of men" by deliberately luring the entire society down the path of greed and materialism, instead of letting humans choose free of his own prejudices. As Yellow Cicada (aka Tang Sanzang) said, Yellow Brow had an end (that humanity is consumed by greed) in mind from the beginning, to which he practiced a means (giving humanity unimaginable wealth and blinding them with the idea that worship is a path to riches).
@@discerningcucumber7559It's because Yellowbrow believed that humans were born evil so he wanted to prove this and say he won the debate with Jin Chanzi. To do this, he tempted and enticed them gold. He made it seem like his amount was endless and he brought something (gold and food) to starving poor people. Of course they would get consumed by greed because he tempted them with greed. He used evil to prove his point of humans being born evil but by doing this, he also unknowingly disproved his point because these humans wouldn't have done that if he never tempted their hearts with greed to begin with. If anything, yellowbrow PROVED Jin Chanzi's point because if you can tempt someone with evil and they commit evil acts then by that logic, you can do the same goodness and convince people to be kind, showing that humans are not born evil. We can be shaped that way though!
@@discerningcucumber7559To win the debate with Jin Chanzi, Huangmei deliberately seduced people and brought out the greed in them. So the means he used was destined to lead to that result. He can't prove that people are born to be evil by seducing them on purpose.
@@discerningcucumber7559 It means that Huang Mei was acting in a way to make his assumption seem like a correct one thus ending their argument instead of acting in a way that would reveal the truth about what they were arguing about.
This is what hooked me, for sure. Many times, this theme just leaves it at the face value that Yellow Brow tries to prove: Human nature is greedy and violent, we will always strive for wealth and power, even if it means forgoing our prosperity. But they take it a step further and give our nature some grace by saying "Well of course our nature is violent and greedy when discourse is sewn into it." We can be equally as prosperous, giving and kind if that is the nature of our surroundings. It is unfair to believe us to be so simply greedy and incapable of salvation, we need only positive direction and grace.
This is deeper than most fable. The reality is people can resist greed. They can share. They can be peaceful. They can be kind to an ugly monster. Until bad things happen. People are not simply good or bad.
couple thoughts : 1. debate to winning or debate to the purpose of winning ? you want to win, you do everything/whatever it costs including (good/bad) in order to win . if you want the purpose/outcome of winning, do you still need to win ? is it worth it to give out whatever it costs in order to win ? like you arguing with your GF, if you guys argue for a better relationship, do you think you need to win the argument ? 2. the mother EARTH gives us human being everything, we human being cannot stop wanting more
I stand with the Monk's point of view that the Monster's behavioural experiment provides no convincible evidence that human is born naturally with evilness. Here is my argument: In every war of human history, the soldiers are not inherently/genetically favor of killing until their idoelogical plasticity has been deformed to match with their military commander's order. This killing action, in the goal of extinction of same/other species, is impratical as it requires exhuastive time and physical effort, and also is against of fundamental biological principle as it leads to population decline. The genetics expressing such evilness should not popularly exist in any species, but can be temporarily triggered to achieve group conformity in some certain extreme cases. That's why modern society continues to set massive schemes of moral/ethical/legal intervention to avoid anything like in this short anime or in the past human history happening again.
This is where Yellow brow is so powerful, you've been brainwashed by his theories. He put the cart before the horseIn Chinese, it means“倒果为因”, but you agree with him. He has so many followers under him because he is good at sophistry and capturing people's hearts.
The human heart is inherently neutral, neither good nor evil; it is the discerning mind that lead to good or evil actions. In Buddhism, there are good thoughts, evil thoughts, greedy thoughts, and deluded thoughts. Your mind is what discerns these thoughts, and it is through your own actions that you plant the seeds of good or bad karma. That is the reason Jin Chanzi strongly disapproves of Huang Mei's manipulation of human hearts through his schemes
"If not for winning, why debate over means and ends"? Because winning is never the proof. Fighting, and in the giving of yourself toward proof. That, itself, is the point. Win or lose. The fight is the point. Evil is always rational. The monk is mistaken in believing his grace is rational, logic has failed us emotional beings, for our passions don't make us lesser but greater, and beyond logic. Evil can win every game, for Evil always chooses the safest bets, and Evil always chooses Nihilism's cowardice over optimism's courage. But man's heart will always yearn for a truer catharsis. The one beyond the sight of ration.
We can see: (1) The collar of the first greedy man was pulled by some unknown power at 2:13 (2) The turtle less creature was actually Yellow brow at the end of the cut scene, who simply designed everything to win a bet with Jinchanzi. So instead of testintg humanity, he was actually PLAYING with it. Another interpretation I heard from somewhere else: Yellow brow (the turtle less creature) first destroyed the business of the village with his immortal magical power, and then he came to the rescure. Maybe it is an over interpretaion. Just to provide a different angle.
I actually think the 2nd and 5th animations were deeper, especially the 5th, it's not about the Bull's own life but he's the perfect example of experiencing "Hell", and that's what's hell feels like
Game’s bosses are about what happens to those who are outside of the celestial court. A useless Bear did all he was told, ended with a reward he cant weld, so he claims a territory as king, showing off a trophy that does nothing for the rest of his life. YellowRat sees the consequences of powerlessness with death of WuKong. Became obsessed over power and did everything he could to gain more, took great actions for power that amount to nothing. YellowBrow lured by his desire to be on top of the system, started to create his own following, but only as much as he was allowed to until it became inconvenient. HundredEyes became a lap dog, thinking with great service he’ll eventually be on top of the clouds, died screaming to be saved by his master and of course ignored. Bull saw the consequences of going against the system, spent all his life making choices to keep everyone safe. Used up by the court, a demon king once went against the gods is now a husk of what he was, became a dog for too long, dont even remember how to speak anymore, but wailing is all that left of him. Those are the consequences you face for simply not being buddha, but yaoguai. The players too, if they’re not diligent, they may face the fate of becoming the court’s dog again, with the head band on his head, unless of course, you could open your eyes before the old monkey put it on you.
The bull's story is tragic in he that failed to stop one tragedy after one. The tragedy in that he was once the head of the "seven sages" (wukong had 6 sworn brothers who also gave themselves sage title) he was full of energy and ambitions, like a young college student full of dreams for the future. Yet, the bull in old age is a husk of his former self
If you carefully read Journey to the West, you’ll realize that Black Myth: Wukong doesn’t necessarily interpret the legendary tale in a darker or more mature tone. Instead, it reveals the essence of the story as it truly is. The game delves into the deeper meanings behind the original plot of Journey to the West. The BGM lyrics are profound, adding layers of depth to the animation’s message. As someone who grew up in mainland China and has been familiar with Wukong’s story-including Journey to the West and its many related dramas, animations, and games-since my teenage year. Let me translate the lyrics and explain their significance: Three Realms, Four Continents (The “Three Realms” represent the heavens, where gods and Buddhas reside; the earth, where humans live; and the realm of demons. The “Four Continents” come from Buddhist scripture, which divides the world into four parts. When people refer to the “Four Continents,” they are usually speaking of the entire world.) With nothing to seek, there’s no salvation (This line means that throughout the entire world, including the heavens, if one seeks salvation, it cannot be found.) Endless night, present moment Right and wrong, black and white, all reversed Sentient beings, all living creatures Love, hate, greed, anger, life and death intertwined Cause and effect, karma, unforgettable (These lines reflect the core events unfolding in the animation.) Human desires are the way of heaven (In Chinese culture, the “way of heaven” often refers to truth, logic, and justice. Heaven is supposed to represent a higher realm than the human world. However, this line reveals that truth, logic, and justice are shaped by human desires. In Chinese thought, many truths and principles are dependent on how you perceive them-your preferences, what you choose to see and think. So, the truth you perceive is often a reflection of your desires.)
The background music has some lyrics that correspond to the events that happen in each paragraph,“The Three Realms and Four Continents have no expectations,Cannot be saved”,“Right and wrong, black and white, reversed”...
Watching this for the first time the human greed shook me. Watch it the second time there's a deep sorrow that I didn't even know how to cry for it. Debating over end and means is the game for those in power/ with resouce. If you have neither, you can only be in the game being labeled as "the greedy crowd". If you are "destined" to be unworthy, is there a way escaping it?....
This one is to show one of the sins defined in Buddhism - obsession. Huangmei to fulfill his obsession of winning the argument with Jinchanzi, provoked greed, another sin, to run wild among people. This all only caused chaos, and is not in line with the true Buddhism ideology of lifting people from the pain of sins. Jingchanzi pointed out his so called "prove" means nothing because his means were not valid. Here the BGM's name is "Fart", also means bullshit/nonsense in Chinese.
For those who are unfamiliar with the background of this animation, if you mistakenly understand the theme of this animation as satirizing human greed, then you are gravely mistaken. The monsters in the animation and the monk at the end are disciples of the Buddha (you can consider them as angels). The monster made a bet with the monk, believing that human nature is inherently evil, so he transformed into a monster. He neglected all the kindness shown to him by the villagers and gradually induced them to fall into greed and evil. On the Day of Judgment, he eagerly controlled a greedy person (you can see that this person's collar is being pulled by something), who killed him and ignited the evil within the villagers, ultimately leading to the villagers killing the monster. At the end, the monster triumphantly told the monk that he had won the bet, that human nature is evil. The monk believed that he had planted evil in people's hearts for the sake of the bet and ultimately caused chaos, harming himself and the villagers for the sake of the bet. This is both ridiculous and tragic.
more back story to Yellow Brow and JinChanzi: Yellow Brow is a disciple of Mi Le Fo(Maitreya), he's the little boy shown in BMW, he's one of the 3 buddas, representing the future; where as JinChanzi is a disciple of Ru lai(Tathāgata), also one of the 3 buddas, representing the present. In Journey to the West, Ru Lai's more respected and supposedly more powerful than Mi Le Fo, which is why Yellow Brow and JinChanzi, supposedly the same level of hierarchy, JinChanzi is much higher regarded compared to Yellow Brow, and this is why Yellow Brow is so set on "winning" over JinChanzi
Just as the earth gives man all the things he needs in this life, but man becomes greedy and does not hesitate to explore the earth madly for the benefit of their own, and does not care that the earth will be destroyed because of it.
People are complicated. They can be good or evil. If you bait them with what they desire, at last you will see the evil side. And that's what Huangmei did.
The Chinese name of the music is "屁", it literarily means fart, but also means nothing/nonsense sometimes. It contains "尸" dead body, and two “匕” daggers, just like what YellowBrow ends.
This magical supernatural being, to me was nature, while people depicted human greed of taking more and more from nature not knowing when to stop themselves. Then I watched an American streamer play the game arrive to the same sequence and depict the supernatural being as the millionaire and the humans as the poor people; funny how you can arrive at different meaning based on your life experience through arts.
I'm a sociology student, and one of the first things that I learned from my first year as a stident is that when you're doing an experiment, especially field experiment, do know that you shouldn't blatantly manipulate your entire research just so that the results are *_exactly_* what *_you_* want them to be. Yellowbrow was only right because he blatantly make it happen via his magic. In the video, he had pull a Jedi Mind Trick on that greedy guy to cause the entire clusterfuck to unfold. So his entire investigation is flawed. Also, another thing I've learned is that you should never let your value get in a way of your entire investigation too much. Once again, Yellowbrow made another mistake. This time, in a form of this error - not once did he try to open his view a little throughout this journey. Always assuming that everything the people were doing are just hiding their true color as a bunch of greedy hooligans when really, that wasn't always the case. But that's just me voicing my view out. So please leave a constructive criticism in the reply just so that I can continue being wiser.
Also, Yellow Brow contaminated the experiment, for lack of better terms, from the start by leading with his prejudices of greed being a motivator: his primary gifts were material riches, thus all the worship that happens begins and ends with the expectations of being rewarded with more material wealth. Accordingly, it did not take much to lure the sole fisherman, and shortly thereafter the rest of society, into savagery for the sake of material wealth.
@@年青人也許只是筆誤? 其實是要說黃眉是錯的或金蟬子是對的。 Maybe the words "Yelloebrow is right" at the start of the second paragraph is just a slip of his pen? I guess he means "Yelloebrow is wrong"
yellowbrow isnt doing an experiment, he making a point to win an argument, the end is what he need, cheating is just the means to his end. you can say hes wrong, but he didnt make a mistake, he deliberately wanted that result i wouldnt say this is intended, but it looks like a mockery to modern day journalism, especially msm, the truth doesnt matter, the narratives and agenda is what they sow for.
Close your eyes and just listen to the sound especially at 0:58 . It's that iconic LP sound. So glad to be able to listen to new LP music after so long. Those naysayers disputing Chester's voice replacement can stay in the past, I will just enjoy both the past and the future of the band I grew up with during my childhood.
The quality is just insane…you finish a chapter thinking ‘wow’ and this just puts the cherry on the cake.
i like ur metaphor
Is it in black myth game?
@@KeloDking yes Black Myth: Wukong
@@KeloDking you get different styles of animation after completing each chapter
GOTY no doubt
yellow brow was rescued from the sea by fishermen, who did not harm him. He did not think this was kindness. The fishermen benefited from yellow brow's flesh and blood, so they provided him with food, worshipped him as a god, and built a temple for him. He did not think this was kindness. The government did not embezzle wealth, but distributed jewelry fairly to the poor. He did not think this was kindness. When a person blinded by greed appeared in the crowd, yellow brow took the initiative to guide him to commit a crime (the collar of the man with a knife was pulled by yellow brow), and like an avalanche, he detonated the evil in the hearts of others. In the end, yellow brow proved his original theory: human nature is evil. Jinchanzi said that he was obsessed with winning and losing, and he was a pathetic guy. Because yellow brow first had a theory, and then got the result he wanted by guiding reality. Instead of practicing in reality and finally summarizing the theory through the results. Even if there are 100 parts of kindness, as long as there is one evil, yellow brow will make the result lead to evil.
they were about to cook him lol
Ooh i never noticed that about the gov distributing money to the poor
@@misseclispe5766 thats why being governers is not easy. People ignore the good and zoom in the bad
@@misseclispe5766 1:56
人心中的成见是一座大山, 谁也无法撼动
Wukong does not need GOTY to prove its quality while TGA/GOTY fking need Wukong to prove its credibility.
@@Stormtauand here we are, yellow brow won again
@@omgitsken317westoid
@@StormtauGod I love it when people know what up! As long as people see or know the truth it's all that matters 🙏🏻
@@Stormtau You're wrong, it's anti-Chinese policy……Korean games are implicated.
NONOJapanese games are fine@@haydentse6526
The ugly creature is actually Yellow-brow in the game. Yellow-brow and JinChanzi (the master of Wukong) had an argument on whether human is inherently good or evil. Yellow-brow believes the latter, so he transformed into that creature to prove it to JinChanzi. If you look closely, in the animation, the person who stab the creature first is controlled by the creature to provoke others. All Yellow-brow cares about is winning the argument, so he orchestrated the whole thing just to prove a point. On the other hand, JinChanzi focuses on saving people from the pain of reincarnation, which is more important to him. That's why he said "You sow the chaos in hearts just for the sake of winning. How absurd and pathetic."
Edit：
Thanks for all the likes. For English is not my first language, remember to check out more comments below which explain the story much better than mine.
One thing I want to add here. Even though I’m from Taiwan, seeing everyone talking about their take on the story in the comment section, I am proud that China made such a great game. Setting aside politics and conflict of ideology, this game allows people from different parts of the world to experience a classic Chinese literature and to be curious about the story and meaning behind it. Most importantly, the greatest achievement of all is that this story is told by the Chinese, not by some big game company from other country. I guess this is why Concord failed, but this exotic game is successful. We need more games like this!!
I did notice his shirt being pulled as he was walking up, was curious about that. Great explanation on this "Donghua".
Master Tang? I believe his Hokkien name is Tang Sanzang (the name my country is familiar with)
You sow the chaos in hearts just for the sake of winning. How absurd and pathetic.... sounds like the US...
@@unknownbenefactor8029Sanzang from the empire of Tang.
@@unknownbenefactor8029 it's the same, tang sanzhang is junchazi.
看評論真精彩..像是一場哲學大辯論... 看過的人各有各自的解讀.. 我想這是前所未見的..
一個遊戲 產生出各種各樣的火花 這遊戲確實把遊戲產業提升了好幾檔次......
+1；+1。//
This is the first time for me thinking about what “humanity” and “kindness” is, and I’m so glad that the Chinese culture based game could be linked and touched by so many people with different cultural background. I believe this is the meaning of the game.
Yellowbrow makes me think of a youtuber driving a luxury car full of PS5s into a poor neighborhood and leaving it overnight with a camera pointed at it from the bushes for a rage-bait video. But the people of the neighborhood are actually good and nothing happens to the car. So Yellowbrow has to hire a crackhead to go and break the car's window and steal one of the
PS5s, and due to the "broken window effect", other people slowly start stealing too and by the next morning all PS5s are gone and the car is completely vandalized with the wheels stolen and the leather interior stripped. Then Yellowbrow who has been watching from the bushes just jumps out with glee going "SEE?! I TOLD YOU CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL!"
Good analogy.
exactly
Spot on!
Baha
Drive down to LA and see how good those people are
when you saw things with prejudice, all results you got would come with prejudice
TURE
Says the one with extreme bias towards humans.
It doesn't matter how prejudiced he is, this wouldn't happen if they were actually good, he didn't force them to do it, they simply did it.
There are a lot of people in real life that can learn from the statement you made.👍
@@wiswc when we were doing our research paper, a bias would affect the researchers -- they would skew the result to their bias, either unconsciously or consciously. That's why it goes through a review with your research advisor then it goes through a panel. So whatever premise Yellowbrow tried to prove here is... he was unable to prove it.
plus someone made a good point:
1. He may or may not have been rescued instead of left alone to die.
2. He was allowed to live instead of killed and fed to the starving village
3. He was worshipped instead of being imprisoned.
4. It looked like he was allowed agency when to give his blood away instead of being bled by the villagers.
5. It looked like the villagers spread the wealth instead of being hoarded by the few.
6. not all of the villagers bled and gutted him, some tried to stop it.
Anyway, even if you ignore the above, Yellowbrow still invalidatd whatever he wanted to prove. He messed with the numbers --- he was the one who prompted that one person to stab him.
@@wiswc you trying to explain this to them will not work, easy to understand why so many people would try their hardest to justify having a weak mind😂😂 they all want to believe that being given the simple option to act evil was pushing them over the edge.
As a species that lives in groups, humans have always benefited more from kindness, for some reason the fact that just to exist in a type of society you allready have more to gain from being kind is not seen as manipulating the result, but the moment people are given a single option to gain more from acting evil they are manipulated and the datta provided is inconclusive😂😂 this is how sheep live their meaningless lives perpetuating evil and justifying It by saying It simply didn't originate with them😢😢
the story telling in BM:W is unmatched. all the cutscenes have meaning, and done beautifully. for me, the cutscenes in this game was the real reward everytime i killed a boss.
Once upon a time a rich man put a piece of bread in front of a poor man who was about to starve to death, and told the poor man, "This is mine, you can't eat it", and then he intentionally turned away, and the poor man, who was starving, took the opportunity to eat the bread. The rich man laughed and pointed at the poor man and shouted, "Look! These poor people are so shameless! They only steal from others!"
It was never humanity that Yellow brow tested, he was playing with it. It was the arrogant superior bullying and humiliating the inferior.
金蝉子是看到了人类有好的一面，也有坏的一面，但是仍然积极引导人类向善。
Best analogy ever !
It's always someone's fault isn't it?
Even in your horrible example, it doesn't change anything, theft and greed aren't justified by hardship, you're responsible for your own actions regardless, and so yes the they are horrible and if most humans are like them then they are horrible too.
@@aroonsubway2079it literally doesn't work on any level, he gave them things for rescuing him and feeding him, it was a give and take relationship, not "a rich man taunting a poor man and giving them nothing"
Stop with your victim bs.
@@wiswc A crime is a crime you are right, but punishing only the appearance of evil will never stop evil. The root of the problem has never been human nature, but class ,impoverished and unfairness. When the rich man takes off the trappings of wealth, you will realize that he's no different than the poor man and he couldn't control his greed either
I feel like I'm watching shoppers on Black Friday at Best Buy.
Its like any given day in a California shopping mall.
Same shit different scene.
Haha, it’s so funny. I might be thinking of a big event, not a specific time. As soon as you mention it, the picture will appear.
@@tat3179it's not though
Zero purchase
for those who are wondering
Yellow Brow, a creature rescued from the sea, believed that humans are inherently evil. Even when fishermen fed him, worshipped him, and built a temple for him, he saw it as a means to exploit his flesh and blood. He also didn't consider the government's fair distribution of jewelry to the poor as an act of kindness.
To prove his point, Yellow Brow manipulated a greedy man into committing a crime, triggering a wave of evil behavior in others. This confirmed his belief that human nature is fundamentally evil. However, Jinchanzi criticized Yellow Brow for being obsessed with proving his theory, rather than learning from real-world experiences. Jinchanzi argued that even one evil act could overshadow countless acts of kindness.
Gracias 👍🏻
Government’s fair distribution to the poor = Communism good,
thank you CCP
A lot of people are missing the last sentence spoken by Yellow Brow: "if not for winning, why debate over means and ends"?
The fact that Jinchanzi is criticizing his methods show there's an implicit bias for his own belief coming out on top. Jinchanzi argues as if constructing a scenario to show the nature of humans is wrong, when really not having any intentionality is a construction of a scenario itself (as Jinchanzi seems to have the undertone that the results would fall in his favor instead).
Everything here in the game are masterpieces!
hahaha. IGN score 8
@@MatthewWWANG we all now why ign dont like the game
@@bmaster4688 if wukong is gay would help the score
@@MatthewWWANGbro considering IGN score to play a game 🤡.
IGN IS A JOKER,PEOPLE KNOW WHAT GOOD GAME IS!
Someone wants to prove causality by complaining about human greed. In the animation, the setting is that Yellowbrow can generate jewels by eating seafood, and the small village is a poor fishing village. Yellowbrow can use magic to bring down fish, but at the same time, a tornado also destroys the fishing boats. In other words, Yellowbrow destroyed the village's original economic foundation, making the villagers dependent on him. As a result, with development, around Yellowbrow , monks, officers, and bureaucrats appeared, but most people remained poor and lost their original means of production (fishing boats and tools). All they could do was pray for a portion of the jewels from the accountant. Yellowbrow could have taught the fishermen to adapt to nature, make tools, grow herbs, and other means of livelihood. But he didn't do that. Instead, he made the villagers become foolish, lazy, greedy, and vicious rather than wise, hardworking, generous, and calm. As you sow, so shall you reap. Good begets good, evil begets evil, black and white are reversed, and one gets what one deserves.
I think your viewpoint is correct
💯
Sounds like USA
I mean in the end the big guy is alive and the village destroyed because the fight of the treasure so who won? does it matter?
零元购
I know nothing of ancient Chinese mythology but I am so ready to play Wu-Kong!
The point is Huangmei is making up “fake data” to support his point, but not the greedy.
Not fake data. He is just showing how easily humans are influenced by others like their leaders etc. Essentially many are sheeple who do much critical thinking for themselves. This is true even in our real world today.
it's like students doing their thesis
to make it significant LOL
@@zixiaozong9789 he isn't making up fake data. He is illustrating to you how easily influenced some humans are by others. Most humans are sheeple and don't exercise critical thinking themselves.
Why have all my comments been constantly removed for no apparent reason?
When you want to test the quality of a glass, it's destiny is set, and will be inevitably broken by you. The same for the Nature of Human.
Schroedinger's Cat
Glass cups are easy to break, but if you use them properly, they can last for decades
So then it proves that the glass was always fragile. 😮 Just like human nature. Cause most of us act correctly when times are good. But when something happens…and law and order go out the window, damn near everyone goes bad. And the ones that dont? Either get killed or become bad too. The Walking Dead and literally every post apocalyptic movie shows you what happens to people when they need to survive. The worst parts of them come out.
Seems you're saying nothing is inherent then, that behavious are subjected to circumstances?@@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor
@@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor during WW2 men did good and evil. men died protecting others. Men ran into the Twin Towers to save as many as they could. We have statues of men who did great good in the face of evil. Even in The Walking Dead, were there no "good" people? was Glenn, not a good guy? Of course, we are not talking black and white here, but more grey areas. If you really believe humans are either good/evil, you are mistaken.
chinese culture is truly fascinating, that's why they made such a game story based on the Journey to the West. the whole game are telling people somthing more than killing and passing bosses
characters, epic stories are made of imagination by the people from 5000 years to this decade. this is the power of CULTURE.
well, actually the story was only written in 17th century. but it was truly amazing that China invented Printing Press and demand of good stories boomed at that time. For the first time in human history, everyone has access to books that easily printed rather than manually copied by hand written. Large businesses in entertainment hiring poets, historians, story tellers to compile and create stories based on ancient folklore and historical events. Most great stories were like Journey to the west, Romance of 3 Kingdoms, and many more born from this era. People fell in love so much, they built temples to worship fictional characters as deity.
It's not particularly old, and similar/better stories were written in literally every culture.
@@lacdirk yeah I agree, there are many fantastic culture works in the world, but this is the first time Chinese culture can be shown to us in this way, or to me. Some people around me regard Chinese cultural products as Japanese, and this game makes some people, especially young people who are not so interested in the world's traditional culture, truly aware of Chinese cultural works, instead of the first reaction of "oh, this Japanese/Oriental work is not bad". I am just sincerely happy for the success of the developers' vision of promoting Chinese culture.
Yes, what I want to say is that the profound cultural and historical accumulation is a great advantage in creating enduring works. For example, many characters in Journey to the West come from a more ancient time, and some of the ancient Chinese antithetical poems, mythological structures in the book are hard-won.
@@terrywu56 With you on that. It's always good when people learn to appreciate other mythologies.
They really take time to make those beautiful and high standards animation in the game, its really great work
谢谢你喜欢来自中国的作品🥰
it's a work of love
EA games did bertter imo
@@AJ-iu6nw I hope your trolling
@@不小筱 請正名,台灣中國
I’m glad I’m not the only one really drawn to this animation
Shit was 10/10 and traumatizing 😂
@@forest8779 Frr
The final statement has intrigued me since childhood posing a profound existential question rooted in nihilism: "If there's no meaning, why debate means and ends?" Our entire civilization is built on winning or losing like a video game discouraging us to question why to play or introspect about life's true purpose (if it exists)
Humans are Infinite. Infinitely Everything. Infinitely Loving, Hating, Greedy, Generous, Active and Sloth...etc. A river that courses in all directions at once at all times. You need merely to direct that river in the direction that you choose to get an Infinite amount of the direction chosen.
Yeah we gods
Lol
Tbf, sometimes you don't have that kind of power to direct the flow of the river
教育。引导。
是很重要的。人可以是善良的。也可以是邪恶的。
一切的混乱。来源于“黄眉”的诱导。
例如LGBT就是人为推动的。医药公司参与的。一场“人祸”
马斯克的孩子也被害了。
There is nothing infinite about you except arrogance, cruelty and delusion, everything else is limited, love is limited, virtue is limited.
The fact that you saw this an opportunity to praise yourself only proves his point further.
2:12, if you see clearly, the man is been dragged or pushed out, YellowBrow did it on purpose to win the bet
It's true
true
2:59，你倒着看 会发现他其实在笑
心理学从众效应
and in reailty, lost the bet.
一个好的作品应该是引人深思的，而不是把思想强加给其他人的，你说对吧sweet baby?😅
sweet baby很偶然的耦合上了sb这个缩写
@@strategicfooyouagencyfirst8197 只有华人能看懂的梗，哈哈
整个黑神话几部动画反应的内容其实狠狠的扇了现代西方游戏产业一个耳光。
You can sheer a sheep 100 times but only skin it once - Amarillo Slim.
sheering a sheep gives you wool but skinning it gives you skin, meat and more.
@@harmez7but only once
@@harmez7está mudando a analogia mano
well that seems not to be the main point of this video
The music is phenomenal
name of the music is 屁(bullshit/nonsense)
Man I was just hearing that thinking the music had a momentum that’s so captivating and why isn’t anyone saying anything. Thanks
@@thankgod83you sucks
Buddha = Crazy Beliefs
Hindu = Crazy Belief
☝️😂 THAT CRAZY RELIGION
Buddha = Crazy Beliefs
Hindu = Crazy Belief
☝️😂 THAT CRAZY RELIGION
This game winning game of the year
Wrong, the score of this game is constantly being refreshed by deliberately negative reviews, and now the score is below 8 points
@@desidoLU How much did IGN pay you to say this?
2:29 when he stab the Yellowbrow Turtle and we saw his face smilling, the song start with "Three realms, Four lands. Cannot seek nor cant be help" thats hit me like a truck.
Ditto
"Four lands" instead of "For"
@@brunohuang55 lmao typo thanks
三个领域是指欲界、色界、无色界。四个土地是指东胜神州、南瞻部洲、西牛贺州、北俱芦洲。简称三界四州，意思就是整个世界。
@@altao7100 三界不是天地人三界么？
Beast, men, gods and spirits, each one can be evil or good, righteous and wrong
It remembers me a popular saying in Brazil: "Little people can't have nothing good." It refers to the incapacity of receiving nature's (or any kind of) goods without taking it for granted, without undervaluating it, without the savage urge to destroy it for greed's sake. It's somewhat similar to "killing the golden goose". What impresses me most in this tale is the fact of people easily and rapidly ignoring how much their life has gotten better after the creature arrival, and how quick the craziness of just one person contaminated almost everyone in the surroundings.
This is an equal represetation of the snake giving apple to eve.
execpt the snake gets the consequence
@ashannadeeshadezoysawpubud8127 And snake said, "I win the arguments!".
A more equivalent example is Satan and God with Job, with the change here being that the humans here failed a rigged test.
the apple make eve clever and open her eyes
here humans are born with greed, the monster just give them a chance to reveal themselves
in a way, this is like police using fishing method to draw criminals out.
The argument is also similar with the one about Job I think (Job chapter 1 verse 6-12) Satan argued that human nature is evil and hypocritical.
Man that was deep I literally cried the 1st time when I saw it
why did you cry
either about the crazy insane godly high quality animation or the death of that thing that help the village
This is literally the definition of killing a chicken that lays Golden Eggs.
Simply put, the story is a bet between two billionaires, both are the top 0.1% in any country on earth.
Yellowbrow's point:
They're pests, lazy, greedy, less than us and there's no cure.
Jin Chan Zi's view:
You pathetic genius guided them to be like that, they're the same like us in nature, we should help them.
Yeah also i dont think 3 security will do a great job againts hundreds of people
Everyone has their own unique perspective on this animation...which shows that it is a good animation
之前我的老师讲过类似的，中国的一个戏剧叫做灰栏记，很多西方又名的学者都写了类似故事，但结局发生了改变，那些学者是真的对这部戏剧感兴趣。
No, a good animation story should have one precise explanation and message.
@@captives6479 zen isn't like that. Zen is let you find the answer in yourself. zen is let you search inside you
@@captives6479 what a righteous and ignorant statement
@@kmax4668 One should rather see a theory proven wrong than chat about wishy-washy philosophy.
There are two things i got from this story
#1 if someone just wants to win an argument or can't stand losing, they will become the cause that proves their own point, even if it's something evil
2# humans are not necessary evil, but easily persuaded into doing evil things, especially if they need the things those evil actions will get them
very true and good summary
Jin Chanzi was the second disciple of the Buddha. He reincarnated as the master of Wukong.
Edit: "Holy Monk," the Tathagata said, "in an earlier life you were my second disciple, and called Master Golden Cicada... (Chapter 98 of the English translation) or 如来道：“圣僧，汝前世原是我之二徒，名唤金蝉子。..." (the original source) Here Tathagata is a name of THE Buddha, aka Siddhartha Gautama.
The last comment indicated that he might not completely over motal matters, which is why he has to reincarnate 10 more times before nirvana.
@@testla3383 It was Sha Wujin who ate him 9 times before Wukong and Bajie was freed.
Tell me in the game what buddha is talked about Gautama right? becoz there have been several people who attained title of buddha in the past
TONG SAM CHONG
@@muditjain3273释迦牟尼佛😂
This is actually one of the easiest to understand stories in Black Myth Wukong. If you know the lore behind Journey to the West, the game gets 10x deeper. eg why Lingji’s head was actually cut off and how he manipulated the Yellow Wind Sage.
不要把自己看得很厉害， 人家不是看不出来，人家只是用恭维的方式来阐释这个故事非常地 “deep”并非是别人看不懂。中国人总喜欢用高姿态看待其他人。
她只是给大家解释，如果了解故事背景玩游戏的时候会更有代入感，我没看出来这段话傲慢，反而你这段话很拉仇恨@@realchinese9834
@@realchinese9834放p，看不懂就是看不懂。灵吉的剧情是大佬翻译了他的纹身，找到隐藏的经文、翻译出来才分析出来的。连中文都看不懂的外国人根本就是懵的。我发现你们这种人口口声声说中国人怎么样怎么样，你又是什么人？
@@JSG-m1t莫名其妙的文化优越感哪里来的？动不动就人家看不懂。
@@同中书门下平章事-y9l 唉，我举了第二章剧情例子说明了我的观点，而你呢？急于急于表达自己的观点维护你的主子？你看过外国博主玩这游戏吗？玩完第二章顶多说一句cool rat dude，不懂就是不懂，灵吉菩萨是谁他们都不知道。人要实事求是，不要无端的反对别人。
China has a civilization spanning thousands of years, and classics like Journey to the West are just a glimpse of this vast cultural heritage, far from fully capturing its depth. It’s unfortunate that due to China’s setbacks in modern history, the West’s understanding of Chinese culture is often limited to surface impressions or even biased views. Even though we’ve entered the digital age, with translation tools that can achieve near-native fluency, many cultural nuances and deeper spiritual meanings remain difficult to fully convey and grasp. Building that Tower of Babel may still be a distant goal, but there is hope.
Only if china got a normal government
He's trying to prove that people are inherently evil.
Greedy. Not evil
@@abdulrehmanali4391greed is sin? gluttony, greed, lust, envy, pride, wrath, and sloth
@@abdulrehmanali4391 Greed is classified as sin, so therefore evil
And it's "absurd and pathetic" like what the monk said coz he the turtle cheated.
@@sanchezeugene9725 your logic lies as follows: greed=sin=evil therefore humans are evil. I can argue on the same logic as follows: Charity=Virtue=Good therefore humans are Good.... Contradiction in this logic of yours.
What I implied in that short phrase was that we are not inherently good or evil but have a tendency for both and it is due to our free will that we choose one of those paths.
But my understanding is that the tendancy for good is natural and healthy for our own selves so God put that hint for us for the correct option as well.
The emotions of charity, helping, empathy, protecting, sacrifice and love will always be above greed, hate, stealing, hurting and selfishness for an individual.
No evil person will have internal peace despite having everything and a person with all those good attributes will be content despite having nothing. Budha and every human who tried to acquire those attributes were selfless and content
My interpretation is that this story is a thought-provoking exploration of the fundamental nature of humanity-whether we are inherently good or evil. The monster uses its own life as a lure, tempting human greed, and ultimately being betrayed. This tragic outcome is intended to provoke the destructive side of humanity. However, Jin Chanzi argues that such a result does not definitively prove humanity's inherent evil. It is a simplistic conclusion that fails to consider the underlying reasons for people's actions.
He was controlling that first person to do that to him. Cos the village wasn't reacting the way he wanted them to. He dismissed all the good they did before that. When he finally got tired of waiting, he provoked to do what he believed they would always do.
@ArawnOfAnnwn how all the villagers doing are good , when it requires the monsters to give them benefits as prerequisite?
He wants to prove human nature, but he has interfered with nature, thus, he lost his argument.
@@dotaloner5362the monster broke their boats and flung all the fish into their village, he destroyed their source of food and economy leaving them to be dependent on him. He was guiding them all along to do something evil and called it as fact just to try to win a bet he made with the man at the end as implied with the dialogue.
@@ArawnOfAnnwnthe point is the first guy might be controlled by him but the rest of the village did not stop him and eagerly joined in.
事实上，在黄梅和金蝉子的最后一次会面中，金蝉子也表现出了化沙为金的能力，却从未去使用过
This is done so beautifully. Love the art style, the story and the music
2:12 Please pay attention to his shirt.
So it isn't the man's intention but the monster itself just to win the bet
@@sickduck1412 Someone said it best ""Hope blazes like a wildfire when the forest is dry."".
Nice, that attention to detail by Game science.
Good notice! Dry forest cannot burn itself without spark.
In the novel,Yellowbrow debates with Jinchanzi: Yellowbrow believes that human nature is evil, and it is Buddha who helps people to shed evil and become kind, so people should worship Buddha; Jinchanzi believes that human nature is kind, and Buddha is also kind, therefore people and Buddha are equal. By the way, Jinchanzi is the previous life of Wukong's master.
This is some of the best 2d game cutscene I've ever seen.
Devs usually just use 3d scenes for convenience and budget
They do have 3d cutscenes as well, you got both
@@walterwang9790i just want to say the same words bro, they got a freaking amazing and a one of the best of the world 3d animationin in the game
I’m the man who born of the China, i’m so proud because our country can make this crazy shit out 😂😂😂
This is one of the most famous debates in ancient China, whether human nature is intrinsically evil or intrinsically good. The conclusion concerns what policies should be adopted to rule the people. One school that supports the fundamental goodness of human nature is the Confucians, whose leader is Confucius, one of the three sculpted figures on the Supreme Court of the United States. The other group, which supported the evil of human nature, was the Legalists, who finally unified China and founded the dynasty Qin
实际上提出人性本恶的是荀子，他同样是儒家的重要人物之一；另外，儒家思想随历史是不断演变的，中间甚至出现过因思想不同而分裂的情况，比如汉朝时的公羊儒和谷梁儒，但儒家核心强调的是道德在国家治理中的作用，通过道德教育去引导人们；而法家并不在意人性的善或恶，他们往往认为道德是不可靠的，因为一个人随时可能从好人变成坏人，唯有利用法律、利益、荣誉去引导和约束人民才能治理好国家，因为我英文不太好，所以英文部分使用了翻译软件，不知道你能不能看懂
In fact, it was Xunzi who suggested that human nature was inherently evil, and he was also one of the important figures of Confucianism, which had evolved over time and even split along different lines, in the Han dynasty, for example, the Confucian school emphasized the role of morality in the governance of the country, guiding people through moral education, while the legalists did not care about the good or evil of human nature, they tend to think that morality is unreliable, because a person can change from a good person to a bad person at any time, and only by using the law, interests, and honor to guide and restrain people can we govern the country well, because my english is not very good, so the English part of the use of translation software, I do not know if you can understand
Evil and good doesn't exist in nature... it's allowed if u strong
Is there something in-between? A school that claims that people are both good and evil and tries to find a balance?
Confucians for the middle-lower classes（寒门士族，平民，士兵） but Legalists for the upper classes （皇帝，同姓王公，士族门阀，军阀）
@@Mr.Eminemthey do exist
That's why a phrase said" Learn knowledge till the land of china". Many knowledge of deep attitude's heart come from myth symbolsm. But I know it just phrase, a fabel, a folklore, etc. Best illustration of greedy of animal side of human.
To simplify the context:
Jin Chanzi (the monk) and Huang Mei (the ugly soft-shell turtle spirit) were both disciples of Buddha but were cast out due to their misbehavior.
Jin Chanzi was reincarnated as Tang Sanzang, Wukong's master in "Journey to the West," a powerless monk in the mortal world. Huang Mei, the soft-shell turtle spirit, reincarnated as the Yellow Brow Monk (Yaoguai).
Jin Chanzi believed that humans are not born evil and are worth saving; they only need guidance. This belief set the stage for the journey in "Journey to the West." On the other hand, Huang Mei believed that humans are inherently evil and should follow their nature.
To win the argument with Jin Chanzi, Yellow Brow spent many lifetimes trying to prove his point, which might explain why they were both outcast by Buddha.
Could you please explain to me what the sentence "You chose a means to an end, not to a proof." implied, my English is kinda weak!
@@discerningcucumber7559 In a sense Yellow Brow did not conduct a clean experiment, he "sowed chaos in the hearts of men" by deliberately luring the entire society down the path of greed and materialism, instead of letting humans choose free of his own prejudices. As Yellow Cicada (aka Tang Sanzang) said, Yellow Brow had an end (that humanity is consumed by greed) in mind from the beginning, to which he practiced a means (giving humanity unimaginable wealth and blinding them with the idea that worship is a path to riches).
@@discerningcucumber7559It's because Yellowbrow believed that humans were born evil so he wanted to prove this and say he won the debate with Jin Chanzi. To do this, he tempted and enticed them gold. He made it seem like his amount was endless and he brought something (gold and food) to starving poor people. Of course they would get consumed by greed because he tempted them with greed. He used evil to prove his point of humans being born evil but by doing this, he also unknowingly disproved his point because these humans wouldn't have done that if he never tempted their hearts with greed to begin with. If anything, yellowbrow PROVED Jin Chanzi's point because if you can tempt someone with evil and they commit evil acts then by that logic, you can do the same goodness and convince people to be kind, showing that humans are not born evil. We can be shaped that way though!
@@discerningcucumber7559To win the debate with Jin Chanzi, Huangmei deliberately seduced people and brought out the greed in them. So the means he used was destined to lead to that result. He can't prove that people are born to be evil by seducing them on purpose.
@@discerningcucumber7559 It means that Huang Mei was acting in a way to make his assumption seem like a correct one thus ending their argument instead of acting in a way that would reveal the truth about what they were arguing about.
This is the greatest game ever to exist.
The whole game is complex and beautiful. A piece of art.
Animation gameplay voice acting, execution everything is peak in this game
We need an anime or anthology at this point. The game pretty much is an anthology
This is what hooked me, for sure. Many times, this theme just leaves it at the face value that Yellow Brow tries to prove: Human nature is greedy and violent, we will always strive for wealth and power, even if it means forgoing our prosperity.
But they take it a step further and give our nature some grace by saying "Well of course our nature is violent and greedy when discourse is sewn into it." We can be equally as prosperous, giving and kind if that is the nature of our surroundings. It is unfair to believe us to be so simply greedy and incapable of salvation, we need only positive direction and grace.
This is deeper than most fable. The reality is people can resist greed. They can share. They can be peaceful. They can be kind to an ugly monster. Until bad things happen. People are not simply good or bad.
exactly. and it's important to see both the bad and good side of people
What I like about this game and the story is the moral lessons....its deep and stunning
very rare these days!
couple thoughts :
1. debate to winning or debate to the purpose of winning ?
you want to win, you do everything/whatever it costs including (good/bad) in order to win .
if you want the purpose/outcome of winning, do you still need to win ? is it worth it to give out whatever it costs in order to win ? like you arguing with your GF, if you guys argue for a better relationship, do you think you need to win the argument ?
2. the mother EARTH gives us human being everything, we human being cannot stop wanting more
everything about this game is fucking awesome
fr. i love this game, the only thing is that i suck at boss fights, so most games like this i just watch from peoppe like radbrad
I stand with the Monk's point of view that the Monster's behavioural experiment provides no convincible evidence that human is born naturally with evilness. Here is my argument: In every war of human history, the soldiers are not inherently/genetically favor of killing until their idoelogical plasticity has been deformed to match with their military commander's order. This killing action, in the goal of extinction of same/other species, is impratical as it requires exhuastive time and physical effort, and also is against of fundamental biological principle as it leads to population decline. The genetics expressing such evilness should not popularly exist in any species, but can be temporarily triggered to achieve group conformity in some certain extreme cases. That's why modern society continues to set massive schemes of moral/ethical/legal intervention to avoid anything like in this short anime or in the past human history happening again.
Humanity explained in 4:43 minutes
Thank you for opening my eyes
No! This is an explanation of human greed , not humanity. Humanity is such a pure lovely and loveable thing . Don't mix things with each other .
This is where Yellow brow is so powerful, you've been brainwashed by his theories. He put the cart before the horseIn Chinese, it means“倒果为因”, but you agree with him. He has so many followers under him because he is good at sophistry and capturing people's hearts.
后来出了个王阳明，无善无恶心之体，有善有恶意之动，知善知恶是良知，为善去恶是格物。这是中国目前最后一个封圣的人
The human heart is inherently neutral, neither good nor evil; it is the discerning mind that lead to good or evil actions. In Buddhism, there are good thoughts, evil thoughts, greedy thoughts, and deluded thoughts. Your mind is what discerns these thoughts, and it is through your own actions that you plant the seeds of good or bad karma.
That is the reason Jin Chanzi strongly disapproves of Huang Mei's manipulation of human hearts through his schemes
1:07 RIP the fisherman on the middle of tornado
你是一个善良的人👍🙏
是的。看似黄眉给予了渔民天上掉下的食物，但龙卷风摧毁了渔船〈生产工具〉，使得渔民依赖它，最后变得贪婪。一切都是他为了证明人性本恶
Thought-provoking, great and beautiful film. 🎬👏
谢谢你喜欢来自中国的作品
"If not for winning, why debate over means and ends"?
Because winning is never the proof.
Fighting, and in the giving of yourself toward proof.
That, itself, is the point.
Win or lose.
The fight is the point.
Evil is always rational.
The monk is mistaken in believing his grace is rational, logic has failed us emotional beings, for our passions don't make us lesser but greater, and beyond logic.
Evil can win every game, for Evil always chooses the safest bets, and Evil always chooses Nihilism's cowardice over optimism's courage.
But man's heart will always yearn for a truer catharsis.
The one beyond the sight of ration.
We can see:
(1) The collar of the first greedy man was pulled by some unknown power at 2:13
(2) The turtle less creature was actually Yellow brow at the end of the cut scene, who simply designed everything to win a bet with Jinchanzi. So instead of testintg humanity, he was actually PLAYING with it.
Another interpretation I heard from somewhere else: Yellow brow (the turtle less creature) first destroyed the business of the village with his immortal magical power, and then he came to the rescure. Maybe it is an over interpretaion. Just to provide a different angle.
I actually think the 2nd and 5th animations were deeper, especially the 5th, it's not about the Bull's own life but he's the perfect example of experiencing "Hell", and that's what's hell feels like
In Buddhism, the mortal world is basically hell.
I love chapter2
Game’s bosses are about what happens to those who are outside of the celestial court. A useless Bear did all he was told, ended with a reward he cant weld, so he claims a territory as king, showing off a trophy that does nothing for the rest of his life. YellowRat sees the consequences of powerlessness with death of WuKong. Became obsessed over power and did everything he could to gain more, took great actions for power that amount to nothing. YellowBrow lured by his desire to be on top of the system, started to create his own following, but only as much as he was allowed to until it became inconvenient. HundredEyes became a lap dog, thinking with great service he’ll eventually be on top of the clouds, died screaming to be saved by his master and of course ignored. Bull saw the consequences of going against the system, spent all his life making choices to keep everyone safe. Used up by the court, a demon king once went against the gods is now a husk of what he was, became a dog for too long, dont even remember how to speak anymore, but wailing is all that left of him.
Those are the consequences you face for simply not being buddha, but yaoguai. The players too, if they’re not diligent, they may face the fate of becoming the court’s dog again, with the head band on his head, unless of course, you could open your eyes before the old monkey put it on you.
The bull's story is tragic in he that failed to stop one tragedy after one. The tragedy in that he was once the head of the "seven sages" (wukong had 6 sworn brothers who also gave themselves sage title) he was full of energy and ambitions, like a young college student full of dreams for the future. Yet, the bull in old age is a husk of his former self
The story of the bull demon King is about a middle-aged man who is tortured by the predicament of reality and loses his freedom
The root of all evil is trying to win the argument instead of seeking the truth of reality.
2:58 Him smiling.
because he wanted it
I don't know the game but because of this animation i'm might buy it ! That was cool.
the game is an epic. not only about the vision or fighting system,but also the debate of humanity behind the story.
If you carefully read Journey to the West, you’ll realize that Black Myth: Wukong doesn’t necessarily interpret the legendary tale in a darker or more mature tone. Instead, it reveals the essence of the story as it truly is. The game delves into the deeper meanings behind the original plot of Journey to the West.
The BGM lyrics are profound, adding layers of depth to the animation’s message. As someone who grew up in mainland China and has been familiar with Wukong’s story-including Journey to the West and its many related dramas, animations, and games-since my teenage year. Let me translate the lyrics and explain their significance:
Three Realms, Four Continents
(The “Three Realms” represent the heavens, where gods and Buddhas reside; the earth, where humans live; and the realm of demons. The “Four Continents” come from Buddhist scripture, which divides the world into four parts. When people refer to the “Four Continents,” they are usually speaking of the entire world.)
With nothing to seek, there’s no salvation
(This line means that throughout the entire world, including the heavens, if one seeks salvation, it cannot be found.)
Endless night, present moment
Right and wrong, black and white, all reversed
Sentient beings, all living creatures
Love, hate, greed, anger, life and death intertwined
Cause and effect, karma, unforgettable
(These lines reflect the core events unfolding in the animation.)
Human desires are the way of heaven
(In Chinese culture, the “way of heaven” often refers to truth, logic, and justice. Heaven is supposed to represent a higher realm than the human world. However, this line reveals that truth, logic, and justice are shaped by human desires. In Chinese thought, many truths and principles are dependent on how you perceive them-your preferences, what you choose to see and think. So, the truth you perceive is often a reflection of your desires.)
Damn the music is so good!
Reminds me of the Ghost in the shell movies OST
The background music has some lyrics that correspond to the events that happen in each paragraph,“The Three Realms and Four Continents have no expectations,Cannot be saved”,“Right and wrong, black and white, reversed”...
What is the BGM?
4:18 this scene gives feel of Dune movie. the Spice
Watching this for the first time the human greed shook me. Watch it the second time there's a deep sorrow that I didn't even know how to cry for it. Debating over end and means is the game for those in power/ with resouce. If you have neither, you can only be in the game being labeled as "the greedy crowd". If you are "destined" to be unworthy, is there a way escaping it?....
只要你远离人群，就能避免这一切
@@onezoo-gs5ti 好呢
This one is to show one of the sins defined in Buddhism - obsession. Huangmei to fulfill his obsession of winning the argument with Jinchanzi, provoked greed, another sin, to run wild among people. This all only caused chaos, and is not in line with the true Buddhism ideology of lifting people from the pain of sins. Jingchanzi pointed out his so called "prove" means nothing because his means were not valid. Here the BGM's name is "Fart", also means bullshit/nonsense in Chinese.
For those who are unfamiliar with the background of this animation, if you mistakenly understand the theme of this animation as satirizing human greed, then you are gravely mistaken.
The monsters in the animation and the monk at the end are disciples of the Buddha (you can consider them as angels).
The monster made a bet with the monk, believing that human nature is inherently evil, so he transformed into a monster. He neglected all the kindness shown to him by the villagers and gradually induced them to fall into greed and evil. On the Day of Judgment, he eagerly controlled a greedy person (you can see that this person's collar is being pulled by something), who killed him and ignited the evil within the villagers, ultimately leading to the villagers killing the monster.
At the end, the monster triumphantly told the monk that he had won the bet, that human nature is evil. The monk believed that he had planted evil in people's hearts for the sake of the bet and ultimately caused chaos, harming himself and the villagers for the sake of the bet. This is both ridiculous and tragic.
more back story to Yellow Brow and JinChanzi:
Yellow Brow is a disciple of Mi Le Fo(Maitreya), he's the little boy shown in BMW, he's one of the 3 buddas, representing the future; where as JinChanzi is a disciple of Ru lai(Tathāgata), also one of the 3 buddas, representing the present.
In Journey to the West, Ru Lai's more respected and supposedly more powerful than Mi Le Fo, which is why Yellow Brow and JinChanzi, supposedly the same level of hierarchy, JinChanzi is much higher regarded compared to Yellow Brow, and this is why Yellow Brow is so set on "winning" over JinChanzi
Just as the earth gives man all the things he needs in this life, but man becomes greedy and does not hesitate to explore the earth madly for the benefit of their own, and does not care that the earth will be destroyed because of it.
You are so damn right. The whole game is deep enough for most people spending time on it to figure out what it's about.
People are complicated. They can be good or evil. If you bait them with what they desire, at last you will see the evil side. And that's what Huangmei did.
The Chinese name of the music is "屁", it literarily means fart, but also means nothing/nonsense sometimes. It contains "尸" dead body, and two “匕” daggers, just like what YellowBrow ends.
你是懂中国文化的
cool understanding
bro，闹特套
@@曹向宇-e5q 他是华人。看他姓 "Deng"
This is how you know you aren’t Chinese.
What a twist. The innocent sympathetic creature is something along the lines of the devil trying to prove that humans are evil.
I wasnt understanding why people love the game but TAKE MY CREDIT CARD
WOW...and this bookends every fucking chapter!? Gonna have to give this a shot
yes,like five in all，five animations
These minutes are better than all the minutes of the DC films.
那倒不至于
比漫威的电影精彩是真的
DC has some decent deep movies, not like marvel whose most production are kids level
This magical supernatural being, to me was nature, while people depicted human greed of taking more and more from nature not knowing when to stop themselves. Then I watched an American streamer play the game arrive to the same sequence and depict the supernatural being as the millionaire and the humans as the poor people; funny how you can arrive at different meaning based on your life experience through arts.
I'm a sociology student, and one of the first things that I learned from my first year as a stident is that when you're doing an experiment, especially field experiment, do know that you shouldn't blatantly manipulate your entire research just so that the results are *_exactly_* what *_you_* want them to be.
Yellowbrow was only right because he blatantly make it happen via his magic. In the video, he had pull a Jedi Mind Trick on that greedy guy to cause the entire clusterfuck to unfold. So his entire investigation is flawed.
Also, another thing I've learned is that you should never let your value get in a way of your entire investigation too much. Once again, Yellowbrow made another mistake. This time, in a form of this error - not once did he try to open his view a little throughout this journey. Always assuming that everything the people were doing are just hiding their true color as a bunch of greedy hooligans when really, that wasn't always the case.
But that's just me voicing my view out. So please leave a constructive criticism in the reply just so that I can continue being wiser.
第二段话你说黄眉是对的，我没有明白什么意思。
Also, Yellow Brow contaminated the experiment, for lack of better terms, from the start by leading with his prejudices of greed being a motivator: his primary gifts were material riches, thus all the worship that happens begins and ends with the expectations of being rewarded with more material wealth. Accordingly, it did not take much to lure the sole fisherman, and shortly thereafter the rest of society, into savagery for the sake of material wealth.
@@年青人也許只是筆誤? 其實是要說黃眉是錯的或金蟬子是對的。
Maybe the words "Yelloebrow is right" at the start of the second paragraph is just a slip of his pen? I guess he means "Yelloebrow is wrong"
@@garyning881 Op meant Yellowbrow 'won' the debate.
yellowbrow isnt doing an experiment, he making a point to win an argument, the end is what he need, cheating is just the means to his end.
you can say hes wrong, but he didnt make a mistake, he deliberately wanted that result
i wouldnt say this is intended, but it looks like a mockery to modern day journalism, especially msm, the truth doesnt matter, the narratives and agenda is what they sow for.
Wunderschön! Was für eine schöne Metapher, um die Gier des Menschen zu zeigen.
That's scratch the surface in the story, think deeper.
Human greed. There’s no end to it.
The man with the dagger seems to have been seduced by the yellow brow with magic.
是的
I need MORE of this animation just like the greedy villagers needed more, more...., MORE!
😂hhh
Dont bite the hand that feed you...
amazing animation quality and art style, and the story is pretty self containing too, hard to believe it's from the game, not a movie.
“夜生白露午生晴”，這就是不同的因產生不同的果，世間萬樣事物和變化均有內在前因後果！這個多樣性的世界，就是佛所看到的因果，因此佛講隨緣，世間因果需遵循尊重，而非刻意追求製造，刻意追求和制造出來的某種因果，該叫作“業”，如果是惡果，那更加是“孽”；黃眉既入佛門，居然連最基本的佛理都拋棄，已經算墜入魔道了……所以黃眉和金蟬子的辯經，一開始就已經有答案，藏在這一章的題眼當中；黃眉和金蟬子的相對而視的構圖，就是極明顯的，應了“一念成佛，一念入魔” 这句佛偈！
They really made this game like their lives depend on it ❤
Close your eyes and just listen to the sound especially at 0:58 . It's that iconic LP sound. So glad to be able to listen to new LP music after so long. Those naysayers disputing Chester's voice replacement can stay in the past, I will just enjoy both the past and the future of the band I grew up with during my childhood.
Huh lp comment here why
@@robbiejobbie4302 a confused bot
Very Deep!
This is AMAZING! The soundtrack is also damn good, reminded me of Kenji Kawai's soundtrack for Ghost in the Shell Innocence.
This is ABSOLUTE CINEMA.
“Madness like gravity， all it takes is a little push” ------- Joker
this game is just so good its so much more than a game. its a masterpiece. i cant wait for them to make the next black myth game already
庄子：人性本善
荀子：人性本恶
Zhuangzi: Human nature is good
Xunzi: Human nature is evil
313-238 BC