Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ruclips.net/user/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
I have never used an impact wrench. I don't do any real mechanical work. I leave all automotive repairs to the professionals! I do like my impact driver, it drives screws very well. Thanks Ethan!
Ive had one of these for a year now, its amazing and literally the only thing stopping me from switching over to Milwaukee. My favorite hand held power tool is definitely the freak
I have a similar Bosch impact wrench. I bought it back when I didn’t know much about power tools. I had always wondered why my “impact driver” was noisier and different from others. Watching this video was a true eye opener for me! Now I have some new socket bits to buy!!
I have one of these! It was given to me by a customer ages ago as a "thank you" for remedying some dodgy work done by a shade-tree carpenter. They'd replaced the broken treads on a staircase with MDF which had snapped not 2 weeks later. They bought me a makita compatible impact... it stays in the tool bag and is actually a great tool if I need to assemble scaffold etc
@@TheHonestCarpenter haha for a 'compatible' (read, knock off) it's a brilliant tool to be honest! very grateful and something unexpected. The job was one of those things where they had 2 kids 5-6yo running around in the house and it was top 2/3 steps, I could see it ending badly and I couldn't just leave it for another day, so I just grabbed some 22mm OSB and couple of 2x4 and reinforced the 1/4 landing because it was a routed-out stringer with no access from underneath (brick walls around the staircase) so I just had to make do. Only charged for the material
@@monkeygraborange oh 100% especially with 2 5/6yo kids running around the house playing "catch me if you can" up and down the stairs. It was completely ripped and folded, the carpet was the only thing keeping the tread still attached to the riser/toe board and it was like the 1/4 landing at the top too, it couldn't wait, I could just see one of these kids falling through the floor 😂
That’s a winner. The competition better respond. I’ve used adapters on my impact driver to help on tons of projects. Simply use a wrench to do the hard work while using the impact driver to do the easy, time consuming spinning. The problem is finding adapters is a hassle (or at least it used to be). The adapters should be in the common kits or stocked on the shelves.
Nice that they combine the two. I’m a DIY’er. Have a socket adapter and don’t drive bolt that much. But in a pinch, I can always add little elbow grease if the impact driver in not up to snuff. Main reason is battery. Once I pick a brand, I’m already invested in their tools bc of the battery. Unless I get them for free or I’m a pro who uses it every day, will not buy one bc it uses a different battery than my current tool collection (not using Bosh right now)
Actually, the GDX18V-1860C Freak is $129 with a free 4Ah battery and 1 hr charger at Lowe's I just saw it last weekend but I passed on it as I already own one. Bosch tools get their fair share of deals; I got my brushless orbital sander the same way.
@@luisinhoens90 Currently use DeWalt everything and shared battery among the tools. I hate to to add 1 more battery system to the collection. Previously I had Ryobi and B&D. I tossed out all of them to go DeWalt. I don't to go back to that habit (of different battery systems) no matter Bose is better or worse. Too heavily invested in DeWalt already.
Love my Bosch tools I have many drill, impact, circular, jig all 18 volt, then corded palm router, the RA1181 router table with matching Bosch router then my favorite the Bosch GCM12SD miter saw
For most of my woodworking needs I prefer a drill driver. I can feel the torque on the screw and not worry about snapping the head off also the quiet factor. If I'm doing a lot of deck screws I reach for the impact driver.
When I bought my first house two years ago, my only power tool was a Bosch drill. The Freak is one of the reasons why I stayed with Bosch rather than switch to a different brand. I only need an impact wrench twice a year when I switch my snow tires, and I didn't want to buy a dedicated tool for that, so the Freak is prefect for me (I've used it for assembly too). I leave the bit driver on it when I attach sockets. I only wish Bosch had a tire inflator like almost every other power tool brand does.
This may be worth swapping platforms. I'm no longer actively engaged in the building trade this would be ideal in my garage workshop. Thanks for the introduction. Can't wait to see your actual review in 6 mos. !
Great video, this tool is based on saving time. It is powerful enough to drive most lags and having a battery that doesn't drain fast doing it makes it a great choice for carpenter's and D.I.Y'ers alike.
I'm a long time user of the Bosch Freaks; I owned both the 1800C and now own the 1860C. Personally the anvil design is underrated and should be copied by other companies. I can't count how much money I have saved on 1/2" adapters because I have needed none ever since. It also does lugnuts just fine. The manual says it can do up to 270 ft/lbs of breakaway torque but that may be too much in the real world. But it certainly does the lugnuts on my halfton truck just fine. What I find it lacking a bit is speed / IPMs on larger lagbolts. Those 3300 RPMs / 4100 IPMs are on the high side of the impact driver scales but the tool feels a bit slower than a DeWalt with lower numbers. Other than that it's a great feeling, practical and well built tool. I got mine for $159 with a 4Ah battery and charger, right now it's even less than that $129. That value is just hard to beat
Very informative. I think it is great that you are doing pro reviews on Amazon. I'm sure it will help both subscribers and people who aren't aware of your channel.
That’s pretty cool. I like the design and it does seem like it would suit pretty much any DIY task around a house. Props to them for creating it! Having an air compressor is really useful though. Even if you just need to inflate your car tires during season changes. I wouldn’t skip out on it if I had a chance to redo my tool collection. Great vid!
Dang man, that's wild! But I think it's a very cool idea! I'm a Milwaukee guy all the way. And with 17 tools from the Milwaukee brand, I don't see myself switching at any point in the foreseeable future. But with that said, I've always had an interest in the Bosch line of battery tools. And watching this video, I honestly was thinking it wouldn't be that bad to have a couple tools on a different battery platform. Which is the total opposite from how I've always looked at this situation. Anyhow thanks for another great video. I find myself really enjoying your videos. Anyhow take care for now. And until next time.
Quick bit of info on this tool, it actually makes more torque if you use an extension in the 1/4in hex collet rather than putting the socket directly on the anvil. I know it sounds odd but torque test channel has the data in a pertains to all freak models
it's been a mixed bag with these, as Shop tool reviews got about the same numbers both with and without an extension. Personally as a long time Bosch Freak user I've been doing lugnuts on my car and half-ton truck countless times both with the old and new one and they always get the job done. And I never use an extension on them. There are several videos showing how it can do over 150 ft/lbs w/o any extensions on lugnuts
Great idea on the AMZN videos. And the Freak is a great idea! If I weren't already committed to the DeWalt battery line, I'd pick one up. I have a Bosch corded router and it's stellar!
you don't even need to be commited to other brands to get on the Bosch platform. The Brushless Freak 3 is 129 right now with a free 4Ah battery + charger kit. That's the same price of a Tool Only DeWalt impact
@@hansangb There are a few upsides, though. I've been stuck in the middle of the work with a single charger and set of batteries. Can't charge them fast enough with a single one. A different battery opens a world of possibilities every time you are looking for a new tool. You just get what suits you the best and the one with the best deals at the moment. That's what I did, then got spares from Ebay for less than $50 each, brand new and genuine. Now I have 3-4 batteries on the 2 platforms I own.
@@luisinhoens90 yeah that's true. I do have a Makita trim router because it's dedicated to roundover bit and it's a better tool for that. But the Ryobi hotglue gun just uses a DeWalt battery adapter. There's no danger of over driving the battery etc. But in general, batteries are the best thing that happened to tool vendors for customer lock in.
this is one of the few bosch tools I can't find myself getting rid of because it does more than just driving little screws without the need of switching adapters.
Thanks for the information and for the demo. Do you have videos on the practical functionality of Bosch jigsaws, particularly routers? I'm trying to convince myself to get a plunge router, but I'm skeptical as the tool seems complicated. But I need one, nonetheless.
This is a great concept. Besides the versatility on the job, it would be great to always have the ability quickly remove and fasten lug nuts on the road or on a job site. The Bosch platform seems to be adding tools but the prices are on the upper end.
The thing is Bosch has been running deals with free batteries and chargers for quite a while. The newest Freak is on sale with a 4Ah battery and 1hr charger for $129, sometimes you won't even find the tool only on other brands for that price.
Nice review! Been watching your content for over a year now! Great job, very nice reviews and to the point. I've had the freak for over a year now, it's fast, quite powerfull as a driver but pretty good as a wrench. It really delivers on all fronts. I use it with a 2 amp hour battery which makes it very light. The only negative about the tool is the comfort, with extensive use during the work day, more than 5 hours, it can get tiresome, kind of top heavy and the grip is so so.....Dewalt grip is better.....also not as rugged as Milwaukee.
Very interesting. It seems that it would be very handy for homeowners. I already have the adapter bits for using sockets with the impact driver, so will probably stick with those for now. Great video as always, Ethan.
Good review & looks like a good tool from Bosch, which does make very good products. BUT, when you’re already invested in another battery system …. Time for red to step up!
This is such a cool idea. I'm stunned more companies have not done this but I suspect it's patent issues. Either way, thanks for posting this. In the right application, this is a dream tool. I personally don't see a use for it in my field, but if you deal with bolts and screws a lot in one application - this has to be the way to go.
It’s an interesting concept and I hope they improve on it more. I think I would’ve bought it before the milwaukee had I known about it, but it really suffers more than I expected on torque numbers. I feel like if you’re using 1/2 anvil sockets you’re probably doing a big project but it only has the torque of a regular impact around 1800inlbs. You’re still fine with conversion bits in this case.
Recently got an impact wrench cause i was tired of manually removing and then putting in lug nuts. I think the Bosch is more for woodworking as is this channel, but this should work as well although it is not as powerful. The specs for the ryobi 3 speed i got has a max turque of 300 lb-ft while the Bosch is 1860 in-ft which is about 155 lb-ft.
Breakaway torque is 270 ft/lbs. That's what the manual says and I'm inclined to believe it as it removes the lugnuts of my car and half ton truck just fine.
*QUESTION* … what kind of torque do I need in a CORDLESS impact wrench (anvil head) in order to remove the lug nuts on my Dodge Ram 1500? ~ Any recommendations as to which one is best for this task?
It's not quite enough to remove the lugnuts on my car, the main reason I want an impact wrench. Whatever the loosening torque is for 105ft-lb and a winter's worth of sitting there. Oddly enough a bit adapter + a fresh top-off charge is enough to loosen those nuts. Torque Test Channel showed that the socket adapter gets you the last little bit of torque. But I have the predecessor to this tool, this one has 5 more on the ft-lb rating. Not sure if the extra 5ft-lb might help me.
"Completely Nuts" - I see what you did there. I've snapped many "impact rated" driver-socket adapters and ended up getting a dedicated impact wrench (needed more torque than the hybrid offers), but Bosch's hybrid is great for all-around DIY use - lag bolts, deck screws, etc.
BOSCH were a sponsor, I don’t follow how you could say there weren’t? Anyway great video, never heard of the freak and now keen-ish to own one. Do others make them? What search term would one use? I was confused at first as ‘wrench’ isn’t used like this we would say spanner or socket. However when I realised one could remove wheels etc with one I was both amazed and pleased! Thank you Bob England
Great review. I think it was fair and down the middle. I’m surprised DIY’ers so so caught up on it not being the most powerful tool. How much power do you need to build a desk or a shelf? 😅😂 I own one and it’s more than enough. Your recommendation for who this tool is for is bang on. As a DIY’er this is one of my core 5 tools. Couldn’t recommend it enough.
It also saves a ton of money if you use regular impact socket adapters often. My flex impact breaks them quite frequently and at $4/piece. Break 3 or 4 through a workday can add up to be quite a bit of money. With this, the adaptor is built in and that's probably the most attractive thing that this impact offers. Just a little underpowered, it's a great concept by Bosch though. Too bad they don't release one that offers the torque and speed flex/Milwaukee do.
Very interesting, and the price is right. I also feel that an Impact driver with a built in clutch would be just as useful. Also an impact wrench with a torque setting that can be controlled so the correct tightness can be obtained without resorting to a torque wrench.
Well bosch dose have a "C" version that alows you to make the torque setings via an mobile app. Most of my tools are "C" but never hasseled to buy the adapters
These have shown up on the torque test channel with underwhelming torque numbers. I don't know if the collet design is a factor in that? Makita has a similar solution too for those on that battery platform
I did not know that they made such a creature, but now that I do, I will add it to my list of tools to buy. I love my impact driver, but it is lacking when I need to break loose a nut sometimes.
That fills a gap. Thanks. Q, have you ever tried the pneumatic/oil/pulse impact drivers as compared to the mechanical/hammer/traditional impact drivers?
the difference between the impact driver and impact wrench is just the shape of the bit holder at the business end, and nothing else? did i understand that correctly?
You do a great job explaining things whether I already know about an issue or product before hand. This is a very helpful channel to many people. God bless James.
Good presentation! I bought one of these a few months ago, hoping that it had enough torque to remove lug nuts from my smaller cars (torqued to 85ft-lb). It won't, quite, but once the lugnut is loosened slightly, it spins them off fine -- and spins them back on once they're threaded, to be torqued to spec with a torque wrench. Saves a lot of time. On the driver side, it makes short work out of driving 3-1/2" screws, although I have to be careful driving my usual 1-1/4" screws.
Hello again Ethan Thank you for another Great Video 👍 I am just starting to research my tool purchase. And Power Tools are on the list. I really need something like the Freak, Being both Tools saves room in my tool box!!!! What kind of warranty does it have? How difficult is it? Again thank you
Thanks George! I’m not too sure about the warranty, but it’s an extremely user friendly driver. Very easy action and trigger control, and surprisingly quiet!
@@TheHonestCarpenter Hello again Ethan Thank you for the quick response. One of the issues the M12 drill and impact wrench has. Is the forward/reverse switches. You can reverse direction very easily, too easy. How is the Freak I. Operating? Again thank you
Cool tool! That name though ... poor Bosh, I know people are talking about the 90s being back in style, but I don't think this is what they were taking about 🙃
Good video, though I highly disagree that electric wrenches "dont create nearly as much force as pneumatic". Theres entire channels dedicated to test that on youtube these days, and electric pretty much beats out all but the absolute top end, premium air wrenches, and usually only when they are run way above normal air pressure :)
Bosch drills and impacts are leagues behind Makita, Dewalt, and Milwaukee. They are unpleasant to use after a good drill. Their grinders, routers, and planers are good though.
Completely and respectfully disagree. Bosch gets in their own way in the North American market. With Europe slipping into full blown depression, Bosch might actually put some attention on their markets here. In the past 6 months I’ve seen them push more into marketing than the last 8 years combined.
Im kinda curious about mount durability in this tool. Since its hollowed out will it see higher wear or prehaps deformation over time. What do you think THC(wow that short kinda comes out wrong xD)?
As a long time user I'll give you my experience. I owned the previous gen (1800C) for 2 years and have owned the 1860C for 3 months and I've put both tools through hell. Although I use these more for woodworking, I also use them to work on my car and truck. These take my lugnuts in 2-4 seconds each, both did it just fine, I even make tire rotations and brake work with them. I think one of the main reasons these don't get that high of a torque rating has to do with the anvil design; as long as they kept their numbers under 300 ft/lbs they'll likely be fine. The 1860C is rated for 270 ft/lbs of breakaway torque but only 155 of tightening torque
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Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ruclips.net/user/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
I have never used an impact wrench. I don't do any real mechanical work. I leave all automotive repairs to the professionals! I do like my impact driver, it drives screws very well. Thanks Ethan!
Thanks David! I haven’t had one in a couple years since I downsized my tool collection, but I’m glad to have this one now 🙂
Ive had one of these for a year now, its amazing and literally the only thing stopping me from switching over to Milwaukee. My favorite hand held power tool is definitely the freak
Equally simple and brilliant. This one drill wears a lot of hats for DIYers and prosumers. Mostly I’m excited to use the word “prosumer.”
Yeah I'm a punfreak too. Firt sight I thought it was a typing error.
I guess I am a punsumer?
i'm excited to get to the jobsite and start yelling "bring me The Freak"
Got the gen 2 1800 it has served me well for a few years. Handy for a lot of the jobs around the house on the job site
Having the socket slide over the driver, that is convenient. Thanks for the demo.
I love mine. Batteries are great! And the freak does a fantastic job for doing all home owner jobs!
I have a similar Bosch impact wrench. I bought it back when I didn’t know much about power tools. I had always wondered why my “impact driver” was noisier and different from others. Watching this video was a true eye opener for me! Now I have some new socket bits to buy!!
Lucky
Impact driver is really all I reach for. I do a lot of automotive repair, and love it paired up with 1/4” sockets.
I’ve seen the commercial on TV & like it. Now you’ve showed it. Thank you
I have one of these! It was given to me by a customer ages ago as a "thank you" for remedying some dodgy work done by a shade-tree carpenter. They'd replaced the broken treads on a staircase with MDF which had snapped not 2 weeks later.
They bought me a makita compatible impact... it stays in the tool bag and is actually a great tool if I need to assemble scaffold etc
That’s a heck of a gift, Jack! 😄
MDF for stair treads? That should be an actual crime!
@@TheHonestCarpenter haha for a 'compatible' (read, knock off) it's a brilliant tool to be honest! very grateful and something unexpected.
The job was one of those things where they had 2 kids 5-6yo running around in the house and it was top 2/3 steps, I could see it ending badly and I couldn't just leave it for another day, so I just grabbed some 22mm OSB and couple of 2x4 and reinforced the 1/4 landing because it was a routed-out stringer with no access from underneath (brick walls around the staircase) so I just had to make do. Only charged for the material
@@monkeygraborange oh 100% especially with 2 5/6yo kids running around the house playing "catch me if you can" up and down the stairs. It was completely ripped and folded, the carpet was the only thing keeping the tread still attached to the riser/toe board and it was like the 1/4 landing at the top too, it couldn't wait, I could just see one of these kids falling through the floor 😂
That’s a winner. The competition better respond. I’ve used adapters on my impact driver to help on tons of projects. Simply use a wrench to do the hard work while using the impact driver to do the easy, time consuming spinning. The problem is finding adapters is a hassle (or at least it used to be). The adapters should be in the common kits or stocked on the shelves.
Nice that they combine the two. I’m a DIY’er. Have a socket adapter and don’t drive bolt that much. But in a pinch, I can always add little elbow grease if the impact driver in not up to snuff. Main reason is battery. Once I pick a brand, I’m already invested in their tools bc of the battery. Unless I get them for free or I’m a pro who uses it every day, will not buy one bc it uses a different battery than my current tool collection (not using Bosh right now)
Actually, the GDX18V-1860C Freak is $129 with a free 4Ah battery and 1 hr charger at Lowe's I just saw it last weekend but I passed on it as I already own one.
Bosch tools get their fair share of deals; I got my brushless orbital sander the same way.
@@luisinhoens90 Currently use DeWalt everything and shared battery among the tools. I hate to to add 1 more battery system to the collection. Previously I had Ryobi and B&D. I tossed out all of them to go DeWalt. I don't to go back to that habit (of different battery systems) no matter Bose is better or worse. Too heavily invested in DeWalt already.
GDX 18V 200c is also great tools, 2 in 1, I am satisdied this Amazing tools
Love my Bosch tools I have many drill, impact, circular, jig all 18 volt, then corded palm router, the RA1181 router table with matching Bosch router then my favorite the Bosch GCM12SD miter saw
Your workshop is very tidy and orderly. Keep teaching all the brilliant stuff ♥️
I'm very impressed with his organization. If I was in the Carolinas, I would hire him.
Bosch Freak is Top Dollar! It'll handle anything!
I have always enjoyed Bosch corded jigsaws!
For most of my woodworking needs I prefer a drill driver. I can feel the torque on the screw and not worry about snapping the head off also the quiet factor. If I'm doing a lot of deck screws I reach for the impact driver.
When I bought my first house two years ago, my only power tool was a Bosch drill. The Freak is one of the reasons why I stayed with Bosch rather than switch to a different brand. I only need an impact wrench twice a year when I switch my snow tires, and I didn't want to buy a dedicated tool for that, so the Freak is prefect for me (I've used it for assembly too). I leave the bit driver on it when I attach sockets. I only wish Bosch had a tire inflator like almost every other power tool brand does.
If you need an impact wrench to remove the wheel lugs, then theyre on too tight and youll be stranded if you ever need to change a flat in the field
This may be worth swapping platforms. I'm no longer actively engaged in the building trade this would be ideal in my garage workshop. Thanks for the introduction. Can't wait to see your actual review in 6 mos. !
Great video, this tool is based on saving time. It is powerful enough to drive most lags and having a battery that doesn't drain fast doing it makes it a great choice for carpenter's and D.I.Y'ers alike.
Thanks Detroit!
I'm a long time user of the Bosch Freaks; I owned both the 1800C and now own the 1860C. Personally the anvil design is underrated and should be copied by other companies.
I can't count how much money I have saved on 1/2" adapters because I have needed none ever since.
It also does lugnuts just fine. The manual says it can do up to 270 ft/lbs of breakaway torque but that may be too much in the real world. But it certainly does the lugnuts on my halfton truck just fine.
What I find it lacking a bit is speed / IPMs on larger lagbolts. Those 3300 RPMs / 4100 IPMs are on the high side of the impact driver scales but the tool feels a bit slower than a DeWalt with lower numbers. Other than that it's a great feeling, practical and well built tool.
I got mine for $159 with a 4Ah battery and charger, right now it's even less than that $129. That value is just hard to beat
And thanks for keeping the link for the childrens books in the description - I was able to pass it on today. (I really think he'll like them 😁 )
I have the first gen Freak and I love it. You are right about the ability to swap bits maks some jobs super fast 👌.
Very informative. I think it is great that you are doing pro reviews on Amazon. I'm sure it will help both subscribers and people who aren't aware of your channel.
Thank you, Dan! 😄
If I ever needed both tools I would def reach for this Bosch tool, thanks 😊
I love your shop man. Very clean and organized.
Thanks swizzy!
Thanks Ethan! I'm so glad your channel and your branding is growing. You always have great tool reviews and tips.
Thanks, G E! 😄
Looks very appealing for a DIYer to own such a hybrid tool.
Thanks for this great concise review.
Thanks for watching, Qusai!
Oh thank god, I just bought a set of impact wrench to driver adapters and thought you were going to show a better option 😅
Good advice for my next purchase since I don't have an impact wrench.
That’s pretty cool. I like the design and it does seem like it would suit pretty much any DIY task around a house. Props to them for creating it!
Having an air compressor is really useful though. Even if you just need to inflate your car tires during season changes. I wouldn’t skip out on it if I had a chance to redo my tool collection.
Great vid!
Hi , how much torque does it produce , is it enough to open car tyre
Do you have a video on cutting a hole for installing a dog door in a metal exterior door? Thanks.
Very handy.
Very informative.
Very genuine. 👍
Dang man, that's wild! But I think it's a very cool idea! I'm a Milwaukee guy all the way. And with 17 tools from the Milwaukee brand, I don't see myself switching at any point in the foreseeable future. But with that said, I've always had an interest in the Bosch line of battery tools. And watching this video, I honestly was thinking it wouldn't be that bad to have a couple tools on a different battery platform. Which is the total opposite from how I've always looked at this situation.
Anyhow thanks for another great video.
I find myself really enjoying your videos. Anyhow take care for now. And until next time.
Quick bit of info on this tool, it actually makes more torque if you use an extension in the 1/4in hex collet rather than putting the socket directly on the anvil. I know it sounds odd but torque test channel has the data in a pertains to all freak models
it's been a mixed bag with these, as Shop tool reviews got about the same numbers both with and without an extension. Personally as a long time Bosch Freak user I've been doing lugnuts on my car and half-ton truck countless times both with the old and new one and they always get the job done. And I never use an extension on them. There are several videos showing how it can do over 150 ft/lbs w/o any extensions on lugnuts
The Freak looks helpful for the DIY'er I know I do. Still have my compressor & Impact w/sockets 😁
Really can’t beat pneumatic for power, Art 👍😁
Great idea on the AMZN videos. And the Freak is a great idea! If I weren't already committed to the DeWalt battery line, I'd pick one up. I have a Bosch corded router and it's stellar!
you don't even need to be commited to other brands to get on the Bosch platform. The Brushless Freak 3 is 129 right now with a free 4Ah battery + charger kit. That's the same price of a Tool Only DeWalt impact
@@luisinhoens90 true. But that's another charger, another stand alone tool w/o a spare battery etc.
@@hansangb There are a few upsides, though. I've been stuck in the middle of the work with a single charger and set of batteries. Can't charge them fast enough with a single one.
A different battery opens a world of possibilities every time you are looking for a new tool. You just get what suits you the best and the one with the best deals at the moment. That's what I did, then got spares from Ebay for less than $50 each, brand new and genuine.
Now I have 3-4 batteries on the 2 platforms I own.
@@luisinhoens90 yeah that's true. I do have a Makita trim router because it's dedicated to roundover bit and it's a better tool for that. But the Ryobi hotglue gun just uses a DeWalt battery adapter. There's no danger of over driving the battery etc. But in general, batteries are the best thing that happened to tool vendors for customer lock in.
@@hansangb can't agree more
Funny thing, I got the same knee brace in the mail today. Haven't tried it yet.
this is one of the few bosch tools I can't find myself getting rid of because it does more than just driving little screws without the need of switching adapters.
Thanks for keeping us informed.
Thanks for the information and for the demo. Do you have videos on the practical functionality of Bosch jigsaws, particularly routers? I'm trying to convince myself to get a plunge router, but I'm skeptical as the tool seems complicated. But I need one, nonetheless.
This is a great concept. Besides the versatility on the job, it would be great to always have the ability quickly remove and fasten lug nuts on the road or on a job site. The Bosch platform seems to be adding tools but the prices are on the upper end.
The thing is Bosch has been running deals with free batteries and chargers for quite a while. The newest Freak is on sale with a 4Ah battery and 1hr charger for $129, sometimes you won't even find the tool only on other brands for that price.
I've had this for a while. Not the strongest but very versatile. Good enough to take out my lug nuts lol
🤗😎GREAT TOOL ETHAN…AND VERY NICE OF BOSCH ..TO SEND IT TO YOU FOR EVALUATION 🤔 AND of course a little too late 😁 for me , but great for others 👍💚💚💚
Excellent video - very helpful and informative - Thanks for posting
Nice review! Been watching your content for over a year now! Great job, very nice reviews and to the point. I've had the freak for over a year now, it's fast, quite powerfull as a driver but pretty good as a wrench. It really delivers on all fronts. I use it with a 2 amp hour battery which makes it very light. The only negative about the tool is the comfort, with extensive use during the work day, more than 5 hours, it can get tiresome, kind of top heavy and the grip is so so.....Dewalt grip is better.....also not as rugged as Milwaukee.
Excellent video. I badly needed this overview. Thx.
Very interesting. It seems that it would be very handy for homeowners. I already have the adapter bits for using sockets with the impact driver, so will probably stick with those for now. Great video as always, Ethan.
Thanks, Jim! The adapters are super useful for occasional use. Ive always had a handful of sizes around 🙂
Good review & looks like a good tool from Bosch, which does make very good products. BUT, when you’re already invested in another battery system …. Time for red to step up!
This is such a cool idea. I'm stunned more companies have not done this but I suspect it's patent issues. Either way, thanks for posting this. In the right application, this is a dream tool. I personally don't see a use for it in my field, but if you deal with bolts and screws a lot in one application - this has to be the way to go.
Thanks Dave, I agree! 😄
I suspect they want to sell more tools!
@@DavidLee-cw6ci I think that's pretty much universally true of all tool companies.
It’s an interesting concept and I hope they improve on it more. I think I would’ve bought it before the milwaukee had I known about it, but it really suffers more than I expected on torque numbers. I feel like if you’re using 1/2 anvil sockets you’re probably doing a big project but it only has the torque of a regular impact around 1800inlbs. You’re still fine with conversion bits in this case.
I use Bosch gdx all the time, and I can tell that this is hell of a tool. AVE describe it like piece of siht
Recently got an impact wrench cause i was tired of manually removing and then putting in lug nuts. I think the Bosch is more for woodworking as is this channel, but this should work as well although it is not as powerful. The specs for the ryobi 3 speed i got has a max turque of 300 lb-ft while the Bosch is 1860 in-ft which is about 155 lb-ft.
Breakaway torque is 270 ft/lbs. That's what the manual says and I'm inclined to believe it as it removes the lugnuts of my car and half ton truck just fine.
*QUESTION* … what kind of torque do I need in a CORDLESS impact wrench (anvil head) in order to remove the lug nuts on my Dodge Ram 1500? ~ Any recommendations as to which one is best for this task?
It's not quite enough to remove the lugnuts on my car, the main reason I want an impact wrench. Whatever the loosening torque is for 105ft-lb and a winter's worth of sitting there. Oddly enough a bit adapter + a fresh top-off charge is enough to loosen those nuts. Torque Test Channel showed that the socket adapter gets you the last little bit of torque. But I have the predecessor to this tool, this one has 5 more on the ft-lb rating. Not sure if the extra 5ft-lb might help me.
"Completely Nuts" - I see what you did there.
I've snapped many "impact rated" driver-socket adapters and ended up getting a dedicated impact wrench (needed more torque than the hybrid offers), but Bosch's hybrid is great for all-around DIY use - lag bolts, deck screws, etc.
Good call, jkuroda! 👍
Nice! I'm interested in this double use driver as a DIYer.
It’s very convenient, Cat!
Hope Milwaukee makes one similar
Nice job. I think it a great nitch for a lot of people
Thanks Bob, I think so too!
BOSCH were a sponsor, I don’t follow how you could say there weren’t?
Anyway great video, never heard of the freak and now keen-ish to own one. Do others make them? What search term would one use?
I was confused at first as ‘wrench’ isn’t used like this we would say spanner or socket. However when I realised one could remove wheels etc with one I was both amazed and pleased!
Thank you
Bob
England
I hope every manufacturer picks up on this design and it's not locked behind patent bullshit. More competition is always good.
Great info. Thanks so much!
Great review. I think it was fair and down the middle. I’m surprised DIY’ers so so caught up on it not being the most powerful tool. How much power do you need to build a desk or a shelf? 😅😂
I own one and it’s more than enough. Your recommendation for who this tool is for is bang on.
As a DIY’er this is one of my core 5 tools. Couldn’t recommend it enough.
Thank you, Brian! My thoughts exactly 😄
It also saves a ton of money if you use regular impact socket adapters often. My flex impact breaks them quite frequently and at $4/piece. Break 3 or 4 through a workday can add up to be quite a bit of money. With this, the adaptor is built in and that's probably the most attractive thing that this impact offers. Just a little underpowered, it's a great concept by Bosch though. Too bad they don't release one that offers the torque and speed flex/Milwaukee do.
You never know Eddie, they might be working on one right now 😁
I'm pretty sure, the anvil is internal for both wrenchs and impact drivers.
Thanks for sharing.
Now you can rotate tires yourself! 😂
Very interesting, and the price is right. I also feel that an Impact driver with a built in clutch would be just as useful. Also an impact wrench with a torque setting that can be controlled so the correct tightness can be obtained without resorting to a torque wrench.
Well bosch dose have a "C" version that alows you to make the torque setings via an mobile app.
Most of my tools are "C" but never hasseled to buy the adapters
The orange ring reminds me of a toy gun from Walmart.
These have shown up on the torque test channel with underwhelming torque numbers. I don't know if the collet design is a factor in that? Makita has a similar solution too for those on that battery platform
Possibly they had to deliberately nerf the torque output to avoid shattering the hollow drive under heavy loads?
You might have just sold me on going to the Bosch battery platform….
I did not know that they made such a creature, but now that I do, I will add it to my list of tools to buy. I love my impact driver, but it is lacking when I need to break loose a nut sometimes.
This thing is very useful for cutting out the adapter, J!
@@TheHonestCarpenter One less thing for me to keep up with. Definitely a huge plus.
Me likes! As a non-pro, I like these multi-purpose type of tools, good enough for my purposes.
Looks like my European Bosch GDX 18V-200C. Same features and torque rating. Why is it branded as "Freak"?
Does Milwaukee, DeWalt, or Makita make a hybrid wrench/driver like the freak?
That fills a gap. Thanks. Q, have you ever tried the pneumatic/oil/pulse impact drivers as compared to the mechanical/hammer/traditional impact drivers?
That’s wild I think that’s a great investment for speed and wasting time.
I bought a drill driver about a few months ago .. and ever since finding out about impact drivers I'm just filled with regret.
Great, another battery platform to use. ;-)
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I was looking at these today. Very cool idea. Shame that Bosch tools are so ugly to me haha
the difference between the impact driver and impact wrench is just the shape of the bit holder at the business end, and nothing else? did i understand that correctly?
You do a great job explaining things whether I already know about an issue or product before hand.
This is a very helpful channel to many people. God bless James.
How does putting a socket adapter on an impact driver cause it to loose power?
Good presentation! I bought one of these a few months ago, hoping that it had enough torque to remove lug nuts from my smaller cars (torqued to 85ft-lb). It won't, quite, but once the lugnut is loosened slightly, it spins them off fine -- and spins them back on once they're threaded, to be torqued to spec with a torque wrench. Saves a lot of time. On the driver side, it makes short work out of driving 3-1/2" screws, although I have to be careful driving my usual 1-1/4" screws.
Thank you
This tool started smoking trying to bust the nut of tire on my car was louder & slower than even M12 milwaukee, which is a 12v system
The hole in the anvil compromises the basic structure of the tool. The anvil on mine cracked just using it on automotive lug nuts.
Hello again Ethan
Thank you for another Great Video 👍 I am just starting to research my tool purchase. And Power Tools are on the list. I really need something like the Freak, Being both Tools saves room in my tool box!!!! What kind of warranty does it have? How difficult is it? Again thank you
Thanks George! I’m not too sure about the warranty, but it’s an extremely user friendly driver. Very easy action and trigger control, and surprisingly quiet!
@@TheHonestCarpenter Hello again Ethan
Thank you for the quick response. One of the issues the M12 drill and impact wrench has. Is the forward/reverse switches. You can reverse direction very easily, too easy. How is the Freak I. Operating? Again thank you
Cool tool!
That name though ... poor Bosh, I know people are talking about the 90s being back in style, but I don't think this is what they were taking about 🙃
Usually if you often need to charge the bit, you would just have 2 separate tools.
Driver socket adapters are generally crap, so I can see where this tool could streamline a project.
Only issue is it has only one size for the chuck. If you need a small bit for driving smaller bolts you need an adapter
Good video, though I highly disagree that electric wrenches "dont create nearly as much force as pneumatic". Theres entire channels dedicated to test that on youtube these days, and electric pretty much beats out all but the absolute top end, premium air wrenches, and usually only when they are run way above normal air pressure :)
Are you talking about corded wrenches or battery driven wrenchs? There’s a big difference.
@@monkeygraborange Battery, I havent seen any corded electric wrenches worth talking about for at least 10 years now?
I bought some adapters for my wrench for sockets - I think Bosch invented a problem for the tool to solve.
It's a keeper. 👍🍻
Thanks Ethan
I would say that electric has more punch now than air considering the cost.
Bosch drills and impacts are leagues behind Makita, Dewalt, and Milwaukee. They are unpleasant to use after a good drill. Their grinders, routers, and planers are good though.
Completely and respectfully disagree. Bosch gets in their own way in the North American market. With Europe slipping into full blown depression, Bosch might actually put some attention on their markets here. In the past 6 months I’ve seen them push more into marketing than the last 8 years combined.
Im kinda curious about mount durability in this tool. Since its hollowed out will it see higher wear or prehaps deformation over time. What do you think THC(wow that short kinda comes out wrong xD)?
As a long time user I'll give you my experience. I owned the previous gen (1800C) for 2 years and have owned the 1860C for 3 months and I've put both tools through hell.
Although I use these more for woodworking, I also use them to work on my car and truck. These take my lugnuts in 2-4 seconds each, both did it just fine, I even make tire rotations and brake work with them.
I think one of the main reasons these don't get that high of a torque rating has to do with the anvil design; as long as they kept their numbers under 300 ft/lbs they'll likely be fine. The 1860C is rated for 270 ft/lbs of breakaway torque but only 155 of tightening torque