Relationship Conflict during a Mental Health Crisis | Advice Series

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2021
  • This is the next video in our new advice segment responding to questions or scenarios submitted by our viewers. In this video, I respond to this submission:
    “My husband has been living with schizoaffective disorder for about 6 years. For the first few years, he had trouble coming to terms with his diagnosis which resulted in issues with adherence to medication and several hospitalizations. In more recent years, he is doing much better with taking his meds, but we still seem to have communication issues when it comes to the subject of his mental health. During the past year he had a long period of really good health and it was nice because it seemed like "normal" and I didn't feel like I had to bring up the topic of his mental health regularly. However, a few months ago I started to notice changes in his behaviour and I became concerned that he might be heading towards another psychotic episode. When I tried to talk to him about it, I thought I was being as gentle as I could when I told him what I was noticing and asked if he was still taking his medication. He became defensive and thought I was accusing him of something, and this started a conflict between us. I kept trying to explain what I was noticing, but he kept giving excuses for that behaviour and saying that it had nothing to do with his mental health. So I left the subject alone, but within a few weeks he was experiencing another acute psychotic episode which ended with police intervention and another hospitalization. I feel defeated because I knew this was coming and I tried to offer my support early, but I still couldn't lessen the impact of the episode. I would appreciate any advice you have for talking to someone who doesn't want to talk about their mental health!”
    I provide my own experience with this as well as advice I've learned from trying to navigate it myself.
    I have a background as a social worker and of course have my own experience navigating living with schizoaffective disorder. In these segments I try to bridge together these two perspectives. However I am not a medical practitioner so all advice is purely based off my own experiences and should not be taken as medical advice.
    If you would like to submit your own question or scenario for advice, please email a few lines to lwwsadvice@gmail.com
    JOIN OUR ONLINE PEER SUPPORT COMMUNITY
    Join a welcoming community of your peers and find comfort in sharing your experiences. By joining our community, you can benefit from the support of others who understand what you’re going through. We offer live weekly facilitated video peer support groups and text channels to communicate about a wide range of topics. Join today and start feeling less alone with what you’re going through.
    • Schizophrenia Peer Support Community: www.schizophreniapeersupport.com
    • General Mental Illness Peer Support Community: www.onlinepeersupport.com
    HELP SUPPORT THE CHANNEL
    We depend on the support of our audience to create this valuable resource. If you have found our content helpful, please consider supporting us today. Your contribution can make a huge difference and enable us to continue providing valuable resources to those living with mental illness.
    • One-time donation: donate.stripe.com/9AQ6oV5S0ef...
    • Monthly donation: / livingwellwithschizoph...
    MENTAL HEALTH APPAREL
    Wear your support for mental health! Our t-shirts, sweaters, and mugs not only spread awareness but also help support this channel. Pick up some mental health apparel today and make a statement while making a difference.
    livingwell.myspreadshop.com/
    SPEAKING & CONSULTING
    Looking for an expert speaker or consultant for your upcoming event or project? With years of experience and a passion for mental health advocacy, I can provide the insight and inspiration you need to make a positive impact. Visit my speaking website to learn more!
    www.laurenkennedywest.com/
    SOCIALS
    Instagram: / livingwellwithschizoph...
    TikTok: / livingwellschizophrenia
    Twitter: / lwschizophrenia
    Website: www.livingwellwithschizophren...
    #schizophrenia #livingwellwithschizophrenia #schizoaffectivedisorder #mentalhealth #relationships

Комментарии • 130

  • @LivingWellwithSchizophrenia
    @LivingWellwithSchizophrenia  Год назад

    JOIN OUR ONLINE PEER SUPPORT COMMUNITY
    Schizophrenia Peer Support Community: www.schizophreniapeersupport.com
    General Mental Illness Peer Support Community: www.onlinepeersupport.com

  • @stevelevi8327
    @stevelevi8327 2 года назад +56

    The best path I took in regards to my schizophrenia was become 100% open and honest with both my health team and partner. I place my complete confidence in them to tell me what they think regardless of how I feel or what I think. I even went as far as to make my partner legally my power of attorney in case I slip back into psychosis. I learned to never take things personally despite how much of a challenge it was initially. If it wasn't for shameless trust I gave I wouldn't be coherent today. Through confiding everything troublesome or embarrassing I gained health and a life.
    I hope this may help someone too.

  • @jackieli772
    @jackieli772 2 года назад +21

    Takeaways to remember:
    1. Agree on plans beforehand
    - Agree beforehand so that even in times of lessened insight, they remember the agreement and know you're coming from a place of wanting to support
    2. Don't take the conflict too personally
    - Wrapping your own emotions up in the conflict can feed into the devolving conflict and make things worse, breed mistrust instead of support
    - It may be helpful to bring in a trusted therapist or loved one (agreed on beforehand so it doesn't feel like an ambush or exposing) as a supportive third party
    - Take consideration for their coping mechanisms like withdrawing, it doesn't mean they don't value your support
    Thank you so much, Lauren and Rob!

  • @dorianallen2764
    @dorianallen2764 Год назад +13

    My ex has been dealing schizophrenia since 2020. I tried everything I could, but I was always the target of her anger. I feel bad I used to get upset, but it was hard to just take the wild accusations. It started with audio hallucinations then recently turned to physical manifestations. It sucks because she hates me for something I really didn't do and I can't make her understand. I had to take our four children from our house. We were together for 15 yrs. The worst part is that I couldn't fix it. I promised her I would.

    • @gwenhwyfer9033
      @gwenhwyfer9033 10 месяцев назад +3

      Damn... im so sorry! How was it like having children with her, was it difficult?

    • @DouglasGross6022
      @DouglasGross6022 7 месяцев назад +7

      This point about her hating you for something you didn't do hits home with me.

    • @duke8708
      @duke8708 3 месяца назад +1

      I feel you brotha . My gf recently had a meltdown with her family on Christmas Day. And now I haven’t been able to get in contact with her for past two weeks.. before the meltdown for 6 months she would make wild accusations and say stuff like your sister tried to hit me with a bat when it’s just us in our house and I don’t have a sister.. i love her and iuno what to do at this point…

    • @classyboombap
      @classyboombap 2 месяца назад

      Feel you man... got almost the same shit and im still hoping that she'll realise that she got it all wrong but yeah.. that day may never come mabey

  • @cheaptrickfanatic3496
    @cheaptrickfanatic3496 8 месяцев назад +4

    Living with a mentally ill spouse is hell on earth. Having a child with a mentally ill person is even worse. If there is anything worse than hell. God help all of us carrying this weight.

    • @ajd6212
      @ajd6212 23 дня назад

      Trust me ! I agree with you it’s difficult and it’s help I just fell helpless please God help me what did I do to deserve this ?

  • @jessicaknodel7971
    @jessicaknodel7971 2 года назад +10

    Hey Lauren and everybody involved in creating this channel,
    I just wanted to say how I really appreciate what you´re doing. I will start working in a clinic focused on treating schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders as a psychologist soon and I am watching your videos to get some more real-life stories about what the life of a human living with schizophrenia can look like. I really appreciate you sharing your individual experiences - it is a great learning opportunity for me and something that my university studies and textbooks can´t quite provide. And everyone speaking up about their own experience with mental health is a blessing. You are making mental health issues so easy to relate to because you make it so obvious that you are experiencing the exact same emotions as every single one of us. As someone treating people with potentially similar experiences like yours, I need to be particularly aware of any "us vs. them" stereotypes that I might unconsciously have as a (so far relatively) healthy person.
    Thank you for being so open and genuine about your own life - I imagine that must take a lot of courage. Shout-out also to Rob and your best friend. They seem to be a great loving support system for you too, like we all need.
    I don´t think I´ve ever commented on a RUclips video before but I just wanted to share some appreciation. Thank you for helping me understand better and relate to your experiences more. And please keep doing what you´re doing. We need more of this! :)
    I almost forgot to say: How are you so eloquent?! I think I heard you say "um.." ONCE in this video. :D Hats off to that, I´m still working on that for myself and have some ways to go. You sound very collected and pleasant to listen to - I admire that in a speaker.

  • @roaddogg8633
    @roaddogg8633 2 года назад +35

    Id rather take my meds than do another hospital stay, it was a nightmare. Best ti get a good dr you can talk to easily.

    • @888biblestudy
      @888biblestudy 2 года назад

      My hubby is the same and I am so thankful

    • @sousay2000
      @sousay2000 2 года назад +1

      I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    • @lostlittleme2959
      @lostlittleme2959 2 года назад +1

      Exactly. Ive had horrible experiences with hospital stays and involuntary sections. Id rather take my meds

    • @yelenarotar2307
      @yelenarotar2307 2 года назад +1

      Same!

    • @TheLiberator25
      @TheLiberator25 2 месяца назад

      That's why they're bad . To scare you from going back. Doesn't work for some, unfortunately.

  • @visitorv5284
    @visitorv5284 2 года назад +11

    My personal (non-professional) opinion is that one of the huge problems with treatment of schizophrenia is how patients are seen as having abnormal concerns, their exaggerated worries are disregarded as insane just because they are exaggerated. Yes, they have distorted perception; yes, this leads to lack of insight but the underlying concerns are very real. It is much harder for the person to address it and the systems that try to compensate for the perception deficit are pushed in the wrong direction. Just look at the prodrome with anxiety, OCD and depression - it is the time when the person starts to conceive this new reality that they could at least understand. This would explain why John Nash was able to live without medications - his love for logic and trust in rationality built unshakable support. Proclaiming one untrustworthy with their judgement inherently flawed is where they slip - their instinct for survival is punished and stripped away instead of helping them "rewrite" it, adapt it to real-life situations in a healthy way. It is perfectly normal to react irrationally when someone attacks your survival instinct - it is the last part of you to surrender. This explains why with age the positive symptoms decrease - as you age, your urge to protect oneself diminishes.

  • @mazzy713
    @mazzy713 2 года назад

    thanks for being so open and honest about this stuff, it's so helpful for loved ones going through this.

  • @sheilaheather19
    @sheilaheather19 2 года назад +2

    I love your videos. My mother had severe paranoid schitzophrenia and you give wonderful insight into what she went through. Thank you for sharing something so personal and difficult to understand.

  • @scotchmist...
    @scotchmist... 2 года назад +16

    Some great insightful tips.
    I've had similar difficulties with my long-term partner. She has, in the past, observed my mental health deteriorating over several months and tried to get me help but was repeatedly turned away by the professionals. I thought I was fine but in hindsight I clearly was not as I believed she was trying to force me into the hospital again against my wishes.
    Where I live I have a WRAP (Wellness Recovery Action Plan) now that details all my wishes should/when I become unwell again. This is helpful as it lists my thoughts when well and logical and what I would do for me when I become unwell.
    This puts the onus back on me rather than my partner or anybody else should I become unwell. The questions are slightly patronising but seems to work a wee bit in getting through to me if I become slightly delusional.

    • @janemoran9606
      @janemoran9606 2 года назад +1

      My son just won't start on the road to recovery. I just know know how to get him started and coming to terms with it.

  • @Fortuna808
    @Fortuna808 2 года назад +4

    THANK YOU so much for answering my question!!! Your advice was amazing and so helpful. It definitely makes sense to agree on a protocol beforehand so that the person can understand where you are coming from. Also the advice of having part of that protocol being bringing in a trusted 3rd party is something i hadn't even thought of and it is such a good idea. I think it is a great idea if it is a friend of my husband's so he would know that this person is his advocate, and not just siding with me. Thank you again, i really love your channel and I appreciate what you are doing to help others in difficult situations. Much love!

  • @niastnerb6254
    @niastnerb6254 2 года назад +5

    This really hit home for me and what happens when I start slipping back into psychosis. Thanks and keep up the great content!

  • @unjay1967
    @unjay1967 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Lauren (and Rob)- always helpful and informative

  • @sassybcuz5626
    @sassybcuz5626 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for doing this 💜 💓 sharing this helps SO SO many!

  • @sme5815
    @sme5815 Год назад

    Lauren thanks for being a good representative of all schizophrenics. You are a good role model, and there are so many good ones out there as well like you.

  • @ItsWillieGirl.1960
    @ItsWillieGirl.1960 2 года назад +8

    Thanks so very much for this series 🙏🏽🙏🏽!! Hello to Rob & the Children 😉😉!!

  • @Mokkel73
    @Mokkel73 2 года назад +4

    I learn a lot from your experiences and your way of expressing them.

  • @leaweekes-randall991
    @leaweekes-randall991 2 года назад +5

    Great video! I love watching these, I'm single at the moment but I imagine that all of this information about how to have a good relationship will help me one day!

  • @tiffanyyoung8299
    @tiffanyyoung8299 Год назад

    Thank you so so much for this question. I needed this so much.

  • @jenjencannon3224
    @jenjencannon3224 2 года назад +3

    Amazing video Lauren, very helpful.

  • @janemoran9606
    @janemoran9606 2 года назад

    Thank you, for this, it is so supportive.

  • @timarnold6473
    @timarnold6473 Месяц назад +1

    Lauren you are the most amazing person on the you tube, hope you keep posting more of your videos on the you tube, anyway hope you enjoy the rest of your day, and be safe friend ❤️

  • @ikatsu6008
    @ikatsu6008 Год назад +1

    This is great. You just provided me a tool for the fundamental huge roadblocks that disable to create healthy, dichotomy in my life with my life partner who didn't get freak out when my psychosis, ubnormal affect, never left me.
    I will send this to him to make him asure I always know he is an incredible person who take care of me, I always want him to lead a better, fun life. When confrict occurs between individuals who care about each other but there are more mouthful to explain what is going on biologically to cause abnormal behavior, subjectives can well take over the situation accumulative resentment or frustration, even grudges for both party.
    I think he is able to get the grasp of the phenomenon in our world of complex neurological illnesses.
    Thank you for your time and great support that's highly effective, so that I don't have to weave and over stimulate his mind.
    Much love,

  • @lesliekelley7572
    @lesliekelley7572 2 года назад +2

    This video was very helpful. We are going through this exact situation in my family.

  • @CB-vt4ic
    @CB-vt4ic 2 года назад

    I really hate having mental health problems, I wish sometimes that I could just shut my brain off. Life is so unbelievably upsetting! it's exhausting!
    Thank you for allowing us to see we are not the only ones suffering and that we can get through the tough times. I just wish it was all over

  • @sammieswheels72
    @sammieswheels72 2 года назад

    Brilliant video! I really needed this one. Making a plan ahead of time she like a great idea.

  • @bestlifenetwork4702
    @bestlifenetwork4702 День назад

    Excellent Information!!

  • @mplsmaven9404
    @mplsmaven9404 2 года назад +22

    Cute hair cut!!!

  • @marcuscornwall4879
    @marcuscornwall4879 2 года назад +3

    It took me and my partner a lobg time of going through psychotic episodes and seeing when im stable or struggling. And it took a while for me to recognize it for myself with the help of my partner not giving up on me and continueing to give me the chance too see and losten to when she notices changes because they actually are potential signs im heading for a relapse/episode even if I want to believe im completely in control of myself.

  • @amandaslabyrinth
    @amandaslabyrinth 2 года назад +1

    It is hard to navigate, my husband takes it personally as well. I like what u said about it being a coping mechanism.

  • @rebeccamccord2369
    @rebeccamccord2369 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for sharing this...I too withdrawal from everything and my fiance thinks that I'm mad at him or try to avoid him but I'm not...I'm going to show him this video and hopefully he'll understand because I'm not good at explaining things to him because my diagnose for schizoaffective disorder is recent and I'm still trying to understand it myself.

  • @JohnDoe-vt8oq
    @JohnDoe-vt8oq 2 года назад +1

    My solid advice... Believe in you're self. Work with what you have... Post positive RUclips videos and the rest will work itself out.

  • @snowyowl1826
    @snowyowl1826 2 года назад

    I have schizoaffective disorder and been diagnosed for last 6 almost 7 years and I try to remain calm and logical and in reality as much as possible and take my meds and have a medical team, If you find the right meds and are open I know you can change your life around. I did it, so everyone else with it can with a strong will. I asked my sister to look after me from time to time and if I ended up in a crisis then please put me back in the hospital so the past doesn't get repeated. Focus on one thing at a time, try to keep a journal of your life, and see what you can do better, there's always room for improvements. Hope that helps :)

  • @walterwashco2104
    @walterwashco2104 10 месяцев назад

    thanks it really helps.

  • @jmk1962
    @jmk1962 2 года назад +4

    You seem more back on track again in this video and I love the more informal setting as opposed to you sitting behind a desk. Stay well.

  • @glentoner3689
    @glentoner3689 Год назад

    Thank You. I am try to learn. A friend of mine suffers from this I think ? He does not see a doctor nor take medication. Overall he does good. Your Chanel is helping me to understand some things.
    Again Thank You

  • @doitjustdoit
    @doitjustdoit 2 года назад +2

    This is the hardest part to support a love one or family member.

  • @paullewis3204
    @paullewis3204 2 года назад

    VERY GOOD.

  • @immanuelgodson7156
    @immanuelgodson7156 2 года назад +3

    LOVE FROM IRELAND....MY CAT LOVES YOU TOO

  • @alienreggaeradio
    @alienreggaeradio 2 года назад +2

    Meet non toxic people that are severely positive. Then come out of the darkness and find the light through your love.

  • @amyzzz9681
    @amyzzz9681 2 года назад

    Bipolar person here, thank you for this. I sent it to my partner.

  • @chadgarrett6947
    @chadgarrett6947 2 года назад

    As a person who has struggled with Schizoaffective disorder for his adult life, 40 now, this is the make it or break it aspect of my intimate relationships. To elaborate, if the person you are with has a, for lack of better description, "love language" is different, and you just get made to feel treated poorly the entire time. Even when they may not even be doing that, it may just be you because of the illness. The difficulty I have had in relationships has been this. If you have a partner who can do this well, I think you have something that will last and the illness won't destroy it for you.

  • @timber850
    @timber850 4 месяца назад +1

    I’ve gone the way of communicating in writing with my friend, when I see thing’s slipping back, words I find lead to defensive rebuttals then nothing is accomplished. Leaving a note or letter, gives her time reflect what is written an not lash out. I’m just trying.

  • @marlenebtagelman2451
    @marlenebtagelman2451 2 года назад +3

    You are a beautiful lady!

  • @LivingWellwithSchizophrenia
    @LivingWellwithSchizophrenia  2 года назад +13

    If you would like to submit your own question or scenario for advice, please email a few lines to lwwsadvice@gmail.com

    • @jamesdamico6526
      @jamesdamico6526 2 года назад

      He needs to take ur meds n u need to talk to people who r going through mental health issues

    • @Yellow-yd6cz
      @Yellow-yd6cz 2 года назад

      Do you happen to have a video talking about meds and which meds you may have found to be helpful? I’m in the process of seeing a new doctor snd possibly changing regiments for my mental illness. I love all of your videos so much. Thank you.
      Edit: I just found a video of yours discussing meds-thanksruclips.net/video/JnGB08-HkMM/видео.html

    • @Burevestnik9M730
      @Burevestnik9M730 2 года назад

      Does it mean that your speech output withdraws as well? I.e. could you not tell Rob that you must withdraw but you are still there, e.g. utter that sentence to Rob? Or the speech is not possible any more? If the speech is not possible anymore, could you not text Rob via Viber or email and write down in a form of a message what you could not have uttered by speech?

    • @gershomworrell5552
      @gershomworrell5552 Год назад

      Voices medication and side effects how do you set the balance to be as nomal as possible

  • @girumsaad3662
    @girumsaad3662 2 года назад

    Hey lovely Lauren 🥰

  • @austinthomas7033
    @austinthomas7033 7 месяцев назад

    My partner has it so effective disorder and I am blind and I have multiple sclerosis. Listening to you and Rob speak, it made me feel like I wasn’t alone. It made me feel like maybe my partner isn’t angry at me or isn’t meaning what she says. We’ve been together for a year. She was good until now. The thing is though the most important thing is I love her and she loves me. Do you guys have any tips about things that both of us could do?

  • @alienreggaeradio
    @alienreggaeradio 2 года назад +3

    I don't have that anymore after 18 years. Praying mixed with a new medication with my regular regiment. Im sleeping well. Now I'm out of a cage I can never live in again.

    • @suzannealsop3394
      @suzannealsop3394 2 года назад +1

      Stay strong always and God Bless 💚🙏

    • @alienreggaeradio
      @alienreggaeradio 2 года назад

      @@suzannealsop3394 You know sometimes it's hard. But with people like you cheering me on it's a lot easier. I hear them every once in awhile only if I pay attention. I know I can do this with God but I shouldn't sin and let the voices take ahold of me. And always check in and pray to God so I don't forget. I imagine how God feels about me going through this. Might be God wanting you to find him in the night. I feel the light when you tell me its ok.

  • @karmiole1
    @karmiole1 2 года назад

    Since my comment was removed I Will give a shortened version. My name is Jeff and I was the director of a Great Residential Treatment center called Residence Clubs in Marin, Northern California. Our live in treatment center purchased the residents meds and kept them locked in our counselor bedroom. We had supervised med time after breakfast and after dinner. We learned that was the best way to assure the meds were taken for our residents well being.I believe a marriage with one of the members having Schizophrenia should form a partnership based in trust to do the same thing. That way the couple is guaranteed the best mental healt and the tendency for people to not take their meds which is common is avoided and the relationship thrives! Love to you Lauren and Rob and all of your supporters, Jeff

    • @karmiole1
      @karmiole1 2 года назад

      Hi Lauren, This is Jeff again and I am wondering why you dont believe in the way I suggested for couples who love one another to assure no Police are called and no Hospitalizations occur.You seem to say you were not trusting Rob to help you in the way I am suggesting and found to be successful for our residents for ten years. There was never a doubt that we had that our residents were taking their meds because we controlled and picked up the meds and safely stored them and took them together after breakfast and after dinner. That way we could rule out that problem of med taking and focus on the other issues to help them thrive. If you believe in what I am saying why dont you advocate it to your RUclips followers? Believe me it would help the relationships tremendously! Love, Your Friend Jeff

  • @tommiatkins3443
    @tommiatkins3443 2 года назад +1

    Lauren. When Rob tries to bring up the advanced plan, does this help often ? Or does paranoia sometimes win out?

  • @elijahsexton4380
    @elijahsexton4380 2 года назад

    This will be a great show to watch while Richard explains yo his nefew hiz relationship to genital worts...is that what's clepers

  • @macnloveu3014
    @macnloveu3014 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ive been with my boyfriend for 5 years he talks about sucide has past trama and neglet love from his momma and family ,recently lost the only persons that he loved his grandmother uncle aunt and his son i under stand hes going through allot ive been with him through it .plus got mental illness eposoidos , saying blaming me about things i never do exxample cheating drugs ,spitting hitting him , out of no where he recently got hurt at his job so been at home on ,,not going out ,,,me and him been bumping heads allot idk what to do anymore its getting worse where kids getting involved ...

  • @englishlessons8348
    @englishlessons8348 Год назад +2

    My partner left me. Said he needs tô withdraw and dosent want my help at ALL. Ir hás been 3 months. And I dont know If I shoyu wait reachout or walk away

  • @yoshi4691
    @yoshi4691 Год назад

    I don't have Schizophrenia but my father does. We have been estranged since I was 6 months old, after he tried to murder me and my mother. He went on to do the same thing in his second marriage. It is difficult for me to not blame the mental illness on his behaviour, but I don't really know of the other factors that influence this behaviour (e.g. personality disorder). Knowing all of this, and listening to this video, I am certain that my mother was ill-equipped to deal with a relationship where her partner refused to take medication. It has helped me offer her more compassion, and him as well. It is easy to point the finger at the person with mental illness, but unless there is a contingency plan and both people are stable/equipped with enough interpersonal skills to stick to it, it doesn't work. Everyone is doing the best that they can with the skills that they currently have.

  • @username58482
    @username58482 2 года назад

    Hi Lauren! I have a tiny question about what you said in the video if you’re okay with that. You said that withdrawal from people is a coping strategy for you when you feel overwhelmed. So, for example, if Rob does not intervene and you are able to stay in this state as long as you want, does it help to prevent slipping into psychosis?

    • @mikemetague7973
      @mikemetague7973 2 года назад +2

      Short-term withdrawal is my asylum. 'Go-to-my-room'= decompress, unstress, stifle anxiety, evaluate, recover, and then re-emerge. It works; I get to lower my cortisol level and pulse rate, and enhance my well being, raising my dopamine level meanwhile (I am not a medical professional.).

  • @atouchoftarotwithsue.278
    @atouchoftarotwithsue.278 2 года назад

    Thank you for sharing your story to help others. I was wondering does schizophrenia run in your family??

  • @dacatindahat8275
    @dacatindahat8275 2 года назад +10

    I'm struggling so much with this and my sons mother. We've been apart for 7 months and she hasn't seen our son more than a handful of times. I cant get through to her. I'm constantly the focus of her delusions.
    It's tearing my family apart and i feel helpless. I don't know how to help her. It's quite frightening.

    • @sassybcuz5626
      @sassybcuz5626 2 года назад +3

      Prayers for you and your family. ❤

    • @JohnDoe-vt8oq
      @JohnDoe-vt8oq 2 года назад +1

      Take a mushroom trip with a guide.

    • @tl4472
      @tl4472 2 года назад +3

      You are not alone. When our daughter got sick we had no clue what was happening to her. When the delusions began I was the focus of them (I'm mom). She was convinced I was doing things around the house to persecute her. Eight years later she continues to tell people that we have abused her, which is maddening and devastating. Despite us opening our home to her (twice a year is the pattern) as a soft place to fall; despite being here for her every time she needs help - with housing, debt, whatever she needs - she cannot handle the slightest challenge to some of her behaviors. The grief has been unrelenting. She's now 26 and has had over 20 jobs and several roommates that have failed due to her illness, so it's not just us. She is on disability. Yet when you're family and part of delusional thinking, there's not much you can do. Until she comes to grip with her illness and stops blaming us, we are resigned to letting her go and to stop rescuing her. (Easier said than done.) We miss our daughter so much. This illness is a beast. So do your best to become an advocate for her and yourself. Get involved with NAMI (an amazing educational resource). We can't allow ourselves to become part of the stigma. Take care of yourself and protect your son. Praying for you.

    • @dacatindahat8275
      @dacatindahat8275 2 года назад

      @@tl4472 just knowing I'm not alone helps a great deal. This has shaken me to my core.
      I've turned back to faith after years of denying a need for it. I'm doing my best and still feel like I'm the failure. I am so afraid all the time. Afraid I'll get a call that she's dead or has hurt someone.
      Over the summer someone beat her face in with a hammer and she had reconstruction done on her face.
      I'm so grateful for your encouragement 💛 thank you for letting me know I'm not the only person feeling this way, but I'm sorry you to have to deal with the same kind of things.

  • @tashs949
    @tashs949 3 месяца назад +2

    My husbands in psychosis and it has been a fkn nightmare abuse is an under statement rude af aggressive and arrogant pokes trauma and conflict on purpose treats people like shit

    • @richmindstv2974
      @richmindstv2974 3 месяца назад +1

      My wife is the same way currently. I’m sorry you have to go through this. It is pure hell

  • @dendritedigital2430
    @dendritedigital2430 2 года назад +1

    It is difficult for me to know who to open up to. It has been my experience, in general, most people will reject me when they find out I have schizoaffective disorder. They seem to believe the world is full of people who don't have a mental illness so why should I waste my time with you. This is particularly true of my love interests. They figure the grass is greener without me. I am 55 and have never been married and don't expect I will find someone.

    • @nicolec.5352
      @nicolec.5352 2 года назад

      I’m 40 and I feel the same way. I think I’d be a burden to a potential partner, when there are so many people a lot more stable than me so why bother?

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 Год назад +1

      What about looking for love with other mentally ill people? My boyfriend and I are both Mentally ill
      Edit: and we have been together for almost 12 years.

  • @nibussss
    @nibussss 2 года назад

    Just go with it...lol the episode will b over soon? Lol

  • @andrewbrown6522
    @andrewbrown6522 Месяц назад

    Trying to learn how to be a better friend to someone i care about very much. Pretty much got told to F off while watching videos.....
    Wonder if that means im ghosted for another year? And why when they relapse do i suddenly matter so much again?
    Hopelessly confused.

  • @judimoss3250
    @judimoss3250 2 года назад

    Making an agreeable plan and keep gently trying in an objective way if possible.

  • @preethijohn1153
    @preethijohn1153 2 года назад +1

    Family conflicts are getting more difficult for me because of my mental health they started judging my fiance then I get delusions about everything negative and then my family tells more negative things to me about then I started getting like they are curse me to die, I am not worth living, my fiance is very supportive emotionally and mentally and physically too deeply but they don't admire his work that due to him I have got cured half way then what should I do

  • @giulgreydiamondbred8755
    @giulgreydiamondbred8755 2 года назад

    Hey, I would like advice on how to deal with seeing actual people. There have been times when people seem like they could walk through walls or appear magically. When I asked the people around me they said they also had saw it, but when I would bring it up later the say they dont remember or it never happened. I'm not understanding how I can be so far gone with witnesses and all. I also deal with hallucinations pretty bad like feeling someone touch me inappropriately or smelling things. How common is this and do you have any insight? Oh, there are also physical and mental flashbacks that I get like feeling someone spit on me and things like that which have happened. Is this common? How do I cope because I'm having a hard time. Its embarrassing and infuriating.

    • @katiefrazier9242
      @katiefrazier9242 2 года назад +1

      John, what the fuck. Unless this guide is a Dr., a person with a disorder could seriously be playing with fire.
      Giul I'm really sorry this is happening to you. :( Whatever you choose to do, I hope you're able to find some insight.

    • @giulgreydiamondbred8755
      @giulgreydiamondbred8755 2 года назад

      @@katiefrazier9242 thank you

    • @bredlay6515
      @bredlay6515 2 года назад +1

      Ah don’t be embarrassed. It’s always good to ask for help and never be afraid of being 100% honest. Maybe start with an easy kind of treatment and then slowly expand your options from there. Once you start it will be easier to try other types of therapies. Maybe try experimenting with variety of meditations during the day and sleep hypnosis at night for stress and anxiety. It’s good to get into a regime of practicing relaxation techniques in order to keep the mind calm enough to handle uncomfortable experiences. It will also help make it easier to seek a professional’s help who specializes in this area. Also other alternatives in addition to medications can be beneficial. For example lions mane is known for its neuroregeneration properties, which can help your brain function at a more optimal level. Ashwagandha can help balance hormone levels and the adrenal glands. Both of these combined can lighten the load of stress and confusion. Talking to a psychiatrist or therapist every now and then can help release some of the built up tension.
      Just remember, the hallucinations aren’t you, you’re just witnessing to the minds power of self deception and you don’t have to let it get to you. Maybe try thinking of it as a challenge. Every time your mind deceives you, acknowledge its cleverness in a calm and friendly manner and choose to see it as a way of overcome an obstacle. You can take control and choose how you respond to it by keeping a positive attitude. You could say to yourself “these involuntary events in my mind are trying to manipulate my emotions and as long as I don’t let them effect me in a negative way, they are powerless and have no control over my well being” similar to, say, a demon in a movie who tries to steal someone’s energy from their negative emotions by finding clever ways to manipulate their mind. As long as the person doesn’t get upset or scared, the demon is powerless. Every time the person catches on to the demons ways of deception they become a little more aware of the demons tricks until eventually they become unaffected by the demon no matter how hard it tries to scare them. And in the end they realize it was only the illusion of a demon and all along it was only there to help strengthen the persons mentality. It never really had any bad intentions. The person was just looking at it the wrong way.
      We always have the option to look for a positive and more useful perspective when dealing with our mental health and no matter how bad things may seem we can always find an equally opposite good way of looking at the situation. The power of self deception is beyond our comprehension but our minds ability to overcome it is even more powerful. The bad things in life are only there to fuel the potential of the good things to come. The worse it gets, the better it can be. As long as you don’t give up.

  • @SuperlativeCG
    @SuperlativeCG 2 года назад

    Autocorrect and I have a love hat relationship.

  • @mirageinmercuryshadow
    @mirageinmercuryshadow 2 года назад

    I’m still against the medication of mental illness 😌 But only wen it’s necessary or wanted 😅 the advice here come out so clearly, it could apply to relationships in general not just with individuals that experience psychosis.

  • @karmiole1
    @karmiole1 2 года назад

    Hi Lauren and Rob, I wrote a reply to you about help with meds by a partner. I spent a long time writing it because I care. It disappeared right after I clicked COMMENT. Do you have my comment and do you know why it was removed?

  • @user-oy4vu3ck3u
    @user-oy4vu3ck3u 2 года назад

    This is going to sound a bit weird, but it's actually really hard to watch you personally. You seem like a great person and a great parent and it makes me so confused about my own father. He is schizophrenic and was physically abusive when I was small and it's hard to maintain a relationship with him after he cut me out for half my childhood. I don't even know if I should try and reach out more or just not get involved since he never wants to reach out to me. The last time he was sending me constant links to doomsday stuff and I asked him to stop and use words instead but after that he just cut me off again. Apparently no one can contact him without his partner first but I also have no idea how to talk to her about it either. I also have my own mental health I have to prioritize too- undiagnosed beyond depression/anxiety but very heavily leaning to c-ptsd tbh. It's just hard all around. Anyways, I'm sorry to vent, it's just your videos always bring up a lot of memories I guess. I want to learn to be better with schizophrenic friends and family and it's just hard.

  • @janemoran9606
    @janemoran9606 2 года назад

    Everyone talks about going back into the hospital, but how does that happen? My son is delusional and uses alcohol to control his schizophrenia, but the only way I can get him is apparently a three-party petition to say he is a danger to himself and others. He doesn't really get violent enough to call the police but his daily living is getting worse. He has band-aids all over the walls in his apartment in case people see through the pin holes. He is about to turn 23 and I am desperate to try and help him.

    • @jiriwiesner
      @jiriwiesner 2 года назад

      First, I should say I have no experience living (or dealing) with someone who has schizophrenia. Anyway, I think you could try to contact one of your son's friends. I do not think your son would listen to you if you tried talking to him as a mother. I hope your son has or had at least one friend who would be a positive influence on him. You would need to get your son to talk to this friend - establish a connection. Considering that you mentioned your son does not trust people, even this step might be hard to do. Then, this friend should be intelligent and observant enough to be able to listen to your son to gain some insight into what your son's delusions are. This would allow you to guess what the root causes of those delusions may be. I guess you could also contact a psychologist and discuss your son's delusions with the psychologist. Then, repeatedly create situations that expose those root causes of the delusions as unfounded. That would be my approach to solving this. I guess the friend could also try to convince your son to go to the hospital voluntarily. But going to the hospital is not the solution I would chose for myself - why entrust such an important thing as one's mental health to others? On the other hand, I do not have schizophrenia so it's easy for me to say that.

  • @j.h.miretskay3430
    @j.h.miretskay3430 2 года назад +2

    You don’t need to know anything about “mental illness” to be able to easily answer this question. Basic knowledge of your state mental health statutes - and the oftentimes inappropriate interplay between psychiatry and law enforcement - is all that you really need to know.
    Every adult values their autonomy - and wishes to be treated with respect. People don’t like to be coerced. If the person has had multiple instances of police-facilitated psychiatric holds and inpatient psychiatric treatment, of course they would be incredibly disinclined to talk about their “mental health”, given how such conversations are likely incredibly triggering and bring up past traumas. It’s quite likely that these traumas are still very raw. And less you bring up this stuff about “mental illness” and “anosognosia”, consider the ongoing Covid epidemic and how people remain incredibly resistant to wearing masks in public and getting vaccines. These are supposedly “sane” people who consider covering their face as an absolutely unacceptable infringement of their personal rights and civil liberties. Now juxtapose this with a guy who is being dragged off by cops and shuttered in a psych ward - would the guy be inclined to share his “mental health issues”?!

  • @maxmillianpedro2746
    @maxmillianpedro2746 2 года назад +1

    👀

  • @DJ-rp3gg
    @DJ-rp3gg 2 года назад

    Are you guys going to make some more t-shirts and stuff again? Coastal Rain is a Vancouver company... just putting it out there

  • @jordannns2511
    @jordannns2511 2 года назад +1

    Do you have schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder I'm confused because i remember in some of your video u said u had schizophrenia an then u said u had schizoaffective what do u have

  • @BeingBetter
    @BeingBetter 2 года назад +1

    You look like Marilyn Monroe.

  • @jordannns2511
    @jordannns2511 2 года назад

    Schizophrenia is really interesting to me to study

  • @reginaldhorkyiiregorreggie1559
    @reginaldhorkyiiregorreggie1559 2 года назад +1

    yah the whole there's no way to water it down at all with out sounding a little crazy paradox. me: I love talking about the crazy brain implants tactics all the different socioeconomic angles ect.. to much though it drove every one away and or became a forbidin topic. a real paradox. so they don't want to talk about it when there family wants them to. lol exact opposite my way. my band aid dualism. I'm nuts but at the same time not nuts. ie acting normal basically acting with in the box of expected norms. for years I've experiment with slipping in a little crazy. yah it never pans out well.

    • @JohnDoe-vt8oq
      @JohnDoe-vt8oq 2 года назад

      Well... Seek outside help, stop looking inward and seek the reality in which you are placed in.

    • @reginaldhorkyiiregorreggie1559
      @reginaldhorkyiiregorreggie1559 2 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-vt8oq yah I'm one of the fortunate ones. ie never needed medication. well outside of a sleep aid now and again. I stopped looking inward around 18. I'm 43 and tried it all. I think most mental illness psychosis could be avoided if children were taught applied rationality pragmatism dualism/ virtue for brevity.ie the more knowledgeable you are increases your change of surviving anything. it's better to be disabled and rich than poor and disabled. anti drug culture anti dogma anti religion. pertaining to the usa the drug addicted and the ones unable to cope are pilling up on street corners and in homeless encampments. they need help. I'm pretty sure a shoe box of medication isn't the solution. why can't it ever be brain implants technology? the real paradox. it is technologically posable. the current sadism and mainstream dogma created this future realization that can't be ignored for ever. especially if there are other people like me around to say told you so. it's apathy pure and simple. as if group think ie the upper class élite. their greed apathy and sadism is enough proof. everything that I have experienced and you have explained thus far can be replicated with technology. especially over the past decade.

  • @randyedmonds8742
    @randyedmonds8742 3 месяца назад

    You should be a famous actress celebrity… model

  • @jattpbx1202
    @jattpbx1202 2 года назад +1

    Schizophrenia has ruined my life.....I have lost 2 jobs due to this

    • @JohnDoe-vt8oq
      @JohnDoe-vt8oq 2 года назад

      Then stop working

    • @jattpbx1202
      @jattpbx1202 2 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-vt8oq then how will I earn my livelihood and how will I survive?

    • @katiefrazier9242
      @katiefrazier9242 2 года назад +1

      @@jattpbx1202 This guy has been all over this video's comments recommending folks do mushrooms to solve their problems. He's a destructive troll.

    • @jattpbx1202
      @jattpbx1202 2 года назад +1

      @@katiefrazier9242 sounds right

    • @JohnDoe-vt8oq
      @JohnDoe-vt8oq 2 года назад

      @@katiefrazier9242 I don't hear any solution from you? Maybe your right, under the right circumstances, writing this under a bridge. 😂

  • @tashs949
    @tashs949 3 месяца назад +1

    When will you get psychotherapy it’s a crisis for the partner too your vids are all about supporting you and to be real the partner gets fkd over

  • @babakmohebbi3862
    @babakmohebbi3862 2 года назад +2

    sound like walking on the egg shells around you. it is not right to normalize your behavior instead try to stay on top of your own behavior. the sooner your husband realizes that he is in no position to bring about any changes in you and it is you and only you that can do that that is when the relationship will either turn for the best or the worst. I watched your posts and it shows you are well aware of what really is going on so it is all on you.

  • @Jbelly275
    @Jbelly275 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah you are selfish if you consider it budding into your business. I need more partners to talk about the literal scorched earth hell that this illness brings to loved ones

  • @DReardon-hq2vb
    @DReardon-hq2vb 3 месяца назад

    You didn't answer the question. You just talked about how you feel. You offered no insight about how to communication.