My main concern when series do this (specifically for episodic long running ones) is always just how will the character be in 6 seasons? Like will they be able to be as entertaining and hold a show without their more toxic character traits when their main thing WAS their toxic traits. Their shitty to be around IRL but in fiction, stories will always kinda need more (often reoccurring) shitty antagonistic characters and forces to push a plot forward. So a common problem with reforming these characters tends to be them losing the edge of whqt made them largely entertaining to begin with. So while a better person, they become more mellow and boring to follow in comparison to what they used to be (and in some cases just get sidelined all together due to not pushing anything or anyone forward after awhile) Its way easier to mitigate and get away with it when it happens to side characters because you can just control how much of them we see, so they never feel like they’re around too much and get boring. But with a main character? It’s 100% doable but kinda dicey, hence why most shows save it for series finales or final seasons for damage control. Unless theres some secret about how R & M is ending next season, I’m genuinely concerned and curious where the show could go without rick being the rick that got the series on the map in the first place.
The family coming to roast Rick at the end was very good depiction of how people going through therapy often relapse into old ways of shifting the blame onto others, which added depth and cemented this episode as one of the finest of all.
I think the finale is going to be nuts. This kinda of consistent momentum really feels like it's building up to something that's going to blindside Rick. He's growing. It's time to test him.
@@TheHardy8778 think about it, him and Rick have been making the most progress and the realest of Ricks is still out there. So it would make sense that jerry does something heroic and then realist Rick kills him, leaving the season on cliff hanger.
This episode actually made me cry. When the daughter ran up to the door and begged her dad to let her in, I was teary eyed. When Rick pretended to be him I straight up balwed. Then enjoy a good laugh when the orphans tried to disable the bomb. Im excited for more of Dr Wong! She really seems determined to help Rick and he keeps going back (even in fly form) lol
One thing about Rick and Jerry this episode, that stuck out to me was that Rick referred to Jerry as his "son-in-law", instead of just calling him "the idiot my daughter married" or just "Jerry" in an annoyed tone. I'm sure this must have happened before, but it felt very sweet for Rick to speak of Jerry as any kind of son.
Dr. Wong's advice applies to online fights and arguments pretty well. We often dismiss the "just ignore it" argument because of how often it gets thrown around, but it's actually pretty effective.
But that can often depend on the situation. Sure, when you're a creator (Be it film, writing, youtuber, ect), it is in your best interest to not engage with that toxicity. It only feeds into it. However, the same advice typically doesn't work when it comes to person to person relationships. A child bullying another child won't stop just because that kid is ignoring them. If anything they are more likely to try harder. Telling someone who is being bullied and harassed to just ignore the situation makes the victim in charge, and often in the seat of blame, of their bully rather than addressing the bully themselves.
@@dragongirl89115 It will, at least on the internet, which was the OP's point. On the internet there is no risk of physical violence. You can just ignore replies to your comments (half the time youtube doesn't even notify me lol). It's that simple. Don't pay attention to pixels on your screen. If you see opinions conflicting with your own, ignore them. In 99% of the cases it is not possible to convince a person on the internet that they are wrong. In real "offline" bullying I agree, fighting back is the best way. Even if you get hurt, they'll know not to target you anymore. Make sure at least one of their gang members is hurt as badly as you if not worse.
I just like the fact that Rick while still being himself and staying great, doesn't completely reject help. When he felt a certain way and needed answers, he went to Wong and actually listened to what she had to say about things. He clearly now sees her as someone who wants to help and not an enemy. Which for someone like Rick can be a not so easy thing to do.
Ngl, I was caught off guard by the disclaimer at the beginning of the episode, but with how seriously Piss Master’s suicide was taken, it makes sense. Most adult cartoons use suicide as a punchline, which I don’t necessarily have an issue with personally, but it’s interesting to see it be taken so seriously
I also very much liked this episode for the reasons you showcase here. This was a Rick and Jerry episode that started at the end of a typical Rick and Morty adventure. I still wonder how Morty building his own island fort kicked off a war LOL.
Honestly, this has been the best season so far, and somehow it made Jerry my favorite character. This episode was the epitome of Jerry Cool. I mean, in the end he was even cooler than those orb bozos because they only cared about their image while Jerry's heart kept being pure. i guess Jerry's big heart and naivete should be more explored from now on. He's not a loser, he just has too much heart
It’s generally better than 4 and 5 I think, but that’s only because you can’t get much worse than those Doesn’t compare at all to 1-3 tho, I don’t think any season ever will
@@cloudy772 I agree about season 4-5 being the weakest, 5 better overall.. like every episode not so bad except that one episode... but season 4 have the best finale... and great second half. season 5 feel like they trying stuff.
Jerry’s heart isnt exactly pure in this episode. He tried blasting someone for rejecting the orb. Why? Because he believe that he would be kick out of the group if he did not.
I haven't seen anyone comment on the fact Rick uses the orb (which the council said wouldn't stick to him) to protect Jerry and himself from the explosion in orphan island. That seems like a point by the writers on his emotional growth.
This episode just showed how much Rick actually care about others in general. We all knew he cared, but he REALLY cares about others. He just want to be a Hero
To me Rick does care for others, he just doesn’t want to. Because caring means to open up to someone and be emmotionally vulnerable., which puts him in harm, both physically and emmotionally For him, caring about other is toxic.
@@Bluedragon-iz3oo yes that is sort of whole deal, we a got that. But is not that caring for others is toxic, is the caring and pretend to not to that is What Toxic Rick was. Someone that cared but pretend not to
I know usually the fandom wants more canonical episodes and such, but the amount of well-earned growth the Smiths and Rick have gained is incredible. Especially Rick - the small gesture of healing all of Jerry's wounds after fighting PM without him even asking for it was pretty incredible and not something previous Rick would ever care to do. Even at one point Rick calls Jerry "My son-in-law" and I was like "...wait, has he EVER acknowledged Jerry like that before?". He might've said "my idiot son-in-law" or "my daughter's stupid husband" but I don't recall him ever acknowledging Jerry as his son-in-law. Even later in the episode, during his lower point, he calls Jerry his "stupid idiot son-in-law" again. Idk, small dialogue touches like that are just kinda great.
My favorite? The therapist giving Rick genuinely good advice without appearing like they are trying to control him. A nod to folks who might be apprehensive towards seeking out help when vulnerable. Society as a whole could benefit from more therapy-inclusive content that isn't as heavy handed like in Bojack.
This episode showed how misunderstood Rick really is. His entire family knows he's going to therapy, trying to change, but they didn't even spoke to him calmly and asked him why he did it. I mean he did have a good reason for doing it, is it the best reason? No. But it is a step towards the right direction. Rick was still unsure of whether he's doing the right thing which is why he told Morty, the one he trusted the most in the family. Then Morty reacted violently and didn't even let Rick explain his side. Imagine being very vulnerable and the person you trusted the most blames you and immediately betrays your trust and told others. Then your own family gaslights you. This is why a lot of people going to therapy fail and relapse, it's not solely their fault, the people around them are also to blame. I never went to therapy but that last scene in the garage was really depressing and anxious. Experience the same a lot of times, with people I thought I would never betray me. Everyone deserves to be heard, everyone deserves to be better, help them get better.
When Jerry beat that guy up, dragged him before his daughter, and made him apologize was easily the best part for me lol. And he was doing good stuff with the orb. Rick attempting to protect Jerry from the fact he caused PM to ya know, was a nice moment too. Jerry kinda loses me a little when he says he should’ve let him…ya on his daughter but overall I liked it. I was rooting for both Jerry and Rick and I wish somehow they both could’ve won in the end.
Even if Rick kinda messed up in the end (tho what the hell Morty), he showed a lot of personal growth. I hope they stick with him going to therapy, or at least imply that he's still going off-screen.
it shows Morty’s growth as a character that he doesn’t just do whatever Rick says or wants. Rick realised then and there that he can’t always trust Morty with the secrets he may need him to keep and I believe these themes will be integral to what is to come in the final two episodes of the season or the rest of the series as a whole.
@@ryanbroady1286 It's still very strange that this secret Morty immediately tells the family about but the only other time Rick's ever confided in him with personal stuff (the backstory) THAT Morty's been keeping extremely quiet about even though the family would have more of a reason to care about it. You'd think with everything Morty and the family have gone through they wouldn't really care about this. I still loved the episode though, I can see points on both sides of the argument of Rick telling Morty.
This has some of the best development the show has seen I find it genuinely heart breaking when rick is almost punished for finally trying to do a good deed
I enjoyed this episode a lot. And again consider it another solid entry into an overall solid season… Season 6 most definitely has done a great job of letting the characters grow. Rick actually apologizing, taking others feelings into account and also not being the know all, god that it felt like he was during most of season 3&4. I enjoyed how this episode leaned into darker territory too as imo Rick and Morty is at its best when tackling themes on a more serious level, while keeping its comedic presence intact. I do agree that season 6 hasn’t had any episodes beyond the opener that have blown me away, but I overall would also say this is strongest the show has been since seasons 1-2. And I remain very intrigued in how the writers chose to wrap up this season… I’m positive the final two episodes will be hard character examinations on Morty and Rick… this felt like the final examination of Jerry for the season, which he most definitely earned as Season 6 has often felt more like Rick and Jerry than Rick and Morty… which honestly was a good change of pace… But I’ve noticed there seems to be a noticeable avoidance to examine Morty since the Roy episode… and I’m pretty sure next week is going to show why.
Since the Roy episode their bond doesn't feel the same. Like, how quick Morty was to tell his family the secret about the suicide letter. Something big will definatly happen with Morty
Rick became an apologize too much character. Morty gets mad at him for trying to protect himself from Cookie Magneto and Rick just apologizes? For trying to protect himself? Not to mention he's such a coward letting his family take advantage of him and letting their bs slide as seen in this episode and Night Family and the Roy episode. Also, it just feels completely out of nowhere and unearned as there was no buildup to all of this and sometimes it feels like they just automatically took away some of Rick's prominent traits like his no nonsenseness and assertiveness and independence that made him him and then has the balls to tell you that you are a better person for being more dependent on your shitty family which is a toxic message to send. This feels more like character derailment than growth.
Rick taking on the mantle of the Piss Master reminds me of the season long arc of Malcolm aka the Monarch following in his fathers footsteps becoming the second Blue Morpho
Also, Rick helping Eugene's daughter is healthy because he's sorta getting a second chance to save the family he could not. That's why he's free and happy, pissing his best life. However the overall message seems incongruous to the moral of the skateboard dinosaurs. Pick your battles, I suppose.
I liked this episode. It felt like a really nice growth for Rick as a character. Tho I did really hate how summer, morty, and Beth acted here. The ending especially felt very overwhelming and didn't have much of a payoff
The way he reacted to pissmaster reminded me of that episode with his secret toilet that the character voiced by Jeffrey wright and how he resisted every urge to admit he cared. Wow l8terallt as I’m typing this the video gets to the spot where. You point this out and I didn’t wait so yeah, here we are I’m gonna post this anyway cause I think it’s cool that you always point out thematic parallels like this , which I appreciate more than I should.. you rock bro
Personally I think this is one of the best episodes in a long time. They had a complex, nuanced moral theme and they didn't just end it with "nothing matters lol im so edgy". In fact there was no clear conclusion, but it still felt like there were no loose ends and everything had a point.
You nailed it when you said that this season is more consistent, and raised the floor (compared to S3-5). Several episodes from those older seasons left me feeling confused, bored, or grossed out (looking at YOU S5E4!). This season hasn't done that once for me, yet. The uncanny feeling that characters we know quite well, were being written by people who didn't actually grasp those characters, was very prevalent in those middle seasons too. Overall, I've quite enjoyed this season, and it's given me back a lot of optimism about the future of the show.
I know S5 had some serious stinkers, but you gotta admit it had like 3 episodes that were better than S3-4 put together. Everything from the S3 "mad max" episode, up til the end of S4 was quite meh.
When I was watching this I was like… oh wow what Rick is willingly going to therapy now?! Excuse me, Who are you and what did you do to Rick? Edit: For some reason people think this comment is me hating on Rick’s character development. Which I’m not. I’m just happy that Rick is actually having character development. He was a guy who was so oppose to the idea of therapy and it’s not for “smart” people but he finally came to terms to it. I’m happy for him. This is one of my favourite episodes in the show so far and I’m excited for the next eps to come out!
@@aletanook idk I wouldn’t say that. I went on a deep dive on Rick’s character arc. Personally don’t consider season 4-5 (and i guess season 3 as well kinda?) to be part of his character arc cuz ngl rick (and morty) were so out of character in those seasons that I don’t consider those seasons as his character arcs. Personally this season was a big step up for him. The “smartest man” is finally accepting the idea of therapy after thinking that ‘therapy isn’t for smart people’. The man who always has his guard up is finally opening up to people specially his family. He was close off from them in season 1-2 but he’s finally opening up to them more. The cynical man is finally seeing things in a positive light and being more open minded to morty’s ideas. Idk this is just my observation on Rick but I would like to hear your observations with him tho!
I don’t think the orb plot line was about meta stuff. I think it was just letting Jerry grow. In any other season, Jerry would have gone mad with power, but here? He invites his family to be his bridge crew, to get in on the action with him.
I quite like the season so far. Every episode has made me laugh out loud multiple times and has had some very interesting character work and meta-analysis of writing and the entertainment industry. The show is very different than it was from season 2, but I personally prefer the growth.
wait, but i thought morty was supposed to go back to being subservient thanks to having the part of him that wasn’t stuck in the roy machine? did they just give up on it right away, or is it explained away with “episodic antics”?
I remember I watched rick and morty back when season 1-3 was out. Was sick at home on a friday so just needed something to do. I remember watching it all and getting done and just asking myself 'wtf did I just watch?' I never really touched it again after that, but I watched clips from this episode, and I'm happy to find that the series has grown, and I may eventually come back to watching it.
I thought this was one of the most thought provoking and well executed episode of Rick and Morty ever. Rick was able to examine and address patterns of behavior he didn’t like (embracing the whole point of therapy), and then make positive changes. However it wasn’t a “cure” since we see him backslide a bit in the end.
I get this feeling that Piss Master came about in the creation process. Someone mentions something about how CGI is everywhere and it can do anything. Someone else chimes in "Yeah, you could just do streams of piss and it would look great." Then, "What could you do with piss?" Then, "What CAN'T you do with piss"......and a star was born.
I feel like so far this season is just shy of reaching the heights of season 2, but not quite there. Weirdly enough though I might like it more than season 1, and possibly even season 3. I really don't care all that much if they don't have like a big game-changing finale this season just because of how great the season's been overall. Besides, so far that's only really been a thing in seasons 2 and 5.
@@Johnny2Cellos Kinda? I think at the time that finale felt like a huge deal, but because of how hard they shelved Space Beth immediately after that finale, barely utilizing her until literally this year, I have a hard time feeling its impact upon rewatch. I think it only felt as big and canonical as it did because of how allergic to big status quo shifts Season 4 was. It feels less like the federation taking over, or Evil Morty destroying the citadel, and more like one of their mid-season shake ups like Morty’s grave in season 1, the Beth clone concept being introduced near the end of season 3, or Jessica’s mind being altered at the start of season 5. I’d love to be proven wrong though, and that they do something really big at the end of this season. But if they don’t I really wouldn’t be all that mad, and personally wouldn’t want to pressure the writers into making *every* season finale some huge game-changing event since they’re still gonna be going for at least another five or so seasons.
It wasn’t as big as Season 2 or 5, but it had the Space Beth stuff PLUS the follow up to Bird Person and reveal that he has a kid. It was substantial, definitely bigger than seasons 1 or 3
@@Johnny2Cellos Ah yeah, I get what you’re saying. Idk, I’m sure this season’s finale will be great, regardless of what they choose to do with it. Though I was surprised they didn’t do, like, a multiple-part story arc like I thought they would.
Fiction is beautiful sometimes. One Piece made me think a grown man who wears baby clothes is a complete badass and this show made me feel extremely sympathetic for a guy named Piss Master.
I’m really glad that the writers figured out the kind of random weird story that works well. You could kinda see the similarities between this and the sperm episode but one is unnecessarily crude, gross, has moments where the characters act completely out of character and was just boring to watch and the other is an episode just as strange and random but also entertaining and surprisingly emotional
Is it me or does Pissmaster committing suicide feel a lot coincidental to Jason David Frank's suicide because of his divorce and wife, the part with Pissmaster's daughter though felt extremely similar to JDF's daughters reaction too; this is just a very sad coincidence that almost happened on the same day, because this episode was so close to airing on the same day :(
Fell in love with your analyses over a year ago starting the Bojack when I was going through a tough time in the pandemic. I'd gladly watch an analysis of piss if you did it at this point, boobalah.
@@Johnny2Cellos NICE!!! Season 2 has been WILD! I'm still trying to form my final opinions on it bh rewatch since there were some things I didn't know what to feel about (like when they came back to Reagan after they realized that their alt universe actually suck. Idk, kinda rubbed me the wrong way, if I was to write the ending I would've made Reagan atleast a little bit mad and maybe playfully punish them ot something) But overall it was a wild ride and I want to see some character/episode breakdown. Reagan and Statler specifically. Reagan erasing his memories admittedly made me tear up ngl 😭
They used the song from Space Jam and replaced "ya'llready for this?" with "yall ready for piss?" It got a smile from me, that made it a worthwhile watch.
I'm sorry, but I cannot see the commentary on fan criticism as anything but "They're all just big dumb sweaty nerds that don't know anything about writing. WE know exactly what we're doing!" If they actually were trying to separate the toxic fans from the reasonable ones, seasons 4-6 would not exist.
Truly one of the better episodes IMO. I feel that another thing that shouldn't go unnoticed about the conclusion of the episode is how it, in one fell swoop, disarmed a lot of the tension from the heavier themes while simultaneously demonstrating that while Rick's character underwent a bit of growth during this episode, he was still flawed in some pretty apparent ways, kind of playing to that sitcom trope of everything canonically returning to a default norm at the beginning of every episode. And the whole scene it mostly funny because he pretty much played everything up to that point perfectly. All he had to do was keep his big mouth shut and he would have seemed like a born-again saint. And maybe it's also an indication of his deeper desire to be the "hero" in any capacity, even if it's just Morty knowing he's keeping(but technically not keeping) a dark secret to protect others.
The difference between the jerry for the show and jerry from the comic is their fight or flight reaction. Jerry from the show’s first instinct is to run and like a rat it’s only when he’s backed into a corner that he steps up. comic jerry’s first instinct is to attack, (spoiler: like when morty was kidnapped by a drug lord) and its only once the adrenalin wears off that he starts to freak out. While seeing the lower lows of higher highs is entertaining so I the flashes of jerry’s general competence. The shows jerry has become a cross between meg and stan smith. The dysfunctional lightning rod is fundamentally lazy both in and out of universe, and you can only pile on different flaws for long. Jerry will never lose is butt monkey status, but he’s finally starting to feel like a character and not just the shows scapegoat.
To be honest with you after this episode I definitely see another 14 seasons of the show.I feel like it will be amazing 10 years we’ll be talking about it like how we talk about the Simpsons and Futurama and such it’ll be a household show name
You’re right about the fan thing. That what corporations use to lure us and keep doing bad business practices. They also like to harass people sometimes. I know because a fan of Temtem likes to harass me because I warn people not to enjoy Temtem because they don’t care about you they only care for fans.
Something extra on the scene with pissmaster's daughter: Rick reassured her because she reminded him of Beth. Rick related to pissmaster, and so seeing HIS daughter reminded him of his OWN situation with his own daughter. Really insightful scene
I like the summary in the outro. Season 5 was mostly terrible, but the few good bits it had were *really* good. Season 6 hasn't had anything like Season 5's high points so far, but there has also been a lot less Season 5 madness. I think that's good.
this maybe my favorite episode of the season of Rick and Morty so far at least Rick has finally gotten a lot of character development and Jerry getting a lot more stand out moments in Season 6 from beating pissmaster and becoming a superhero in the episode this Season is Great
I liked it a lot it was a very good story overall, i just really hated the ending its like all that work he went through just got demolished at the end. :(
I love that little moment when it's revealed Rick actually turned into a FLY to secretly go to therapy.
THAT WAS AN UNRELATED FLY!
Then he turns Goldenfold into a fly at therapy
Wait when was this?
@@paulb8030 helped with is poop eating shame
@@aliensexist1661 watch the episode again and don't be distracted lol
I can’t believe the show made me feel sympathy for a character known as “pissmaster”…
Mr.Poopybutthole
The previous time Rick was healing, it was about a poop toilet
Rick and Morty can do that
@@slyceth Oh no. If the trend continues-
if you wouldve told me 2 days ago I'd root for a guy called piss master i wouldve called you crazy
It's like the writers are finally okay letting the characters... grow. Hope it continues.
I think adult swim kinda wants character development to move at sitcom pace. More seasons
It’s always been okay with that. Don’t start
My main concern when series do this (specifically for episodic long running ones) is always just how will the character be in 6 seasons?
Like will they be able to be as entertaining and hold a show without their more toxic character traits when their main thing WAS their toxic traits.
Their shitty to be around IRL but in fiction, stories will always kinda need more (often reoccurring) shitty antagonistic characters and forces to push a plot forward.
So a common problem with reforming these characters tends to be them losing the edge of whqt made them largely entertaining to begin with. So while a better person, they become more mellow and boring to follow in comparison to what they used to be (and in some cases just get sidelined all together due to not pushing anything or anyone forward after awhile)
Its way easier to mitigate and get away with it when it happens to side characters because you can just control how much of them we see, so they never feel like they’re around too much and get boring.
But with a main character?
It’s 100% doable but kinda dicey, hence why most shows save it for series finales or final seasons for damage control.
Unless theres some secret about how R & M is ending next season,
I’m genuinely concerned and curious where the show could go without rick being the rick that got the series on the map in the first place.
Bro they’ve been doing that
@@Im.Smaher No, the childpounder(Harmon) has openly stated how he hated serialized stories)
The family coming to roast Rick at the end was very good depiction of how people going through therapy often relapse into old ways of shifting the blame onto others, which added depth and cemented this episode as one of the finest of all.
That’s Interesting asf
I didn’t even think about that that’s so true
I didn’t even think about that that’s so true
Never in my life, I thought that I would sympathize with a villain who controls piss. One of my favorite episodes ngl
“Most favorite” is redundant. It’s like saying “more better”. Just say “favorite” . You sound like a 5 year old
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 English isn’t my first language, so I am sorry for any grammar or spelling mistakes.
Ikr, this is one of my favorites from the whole series and definitely the season
I think the finale is going to be nuts. This kinda of consistent momentum really feels like it's building up to something that's going to blindside Rick. He's growing. It's time to test him.
Calling it now jerry dies in the final.
@@Meatjam30 wouldn't go that far
@@TheHardy8778 think about it, him and Rick have been making the most progress and the realest of Ricks is still out there. So it would make sense that jerry does something heroic and then realist Rick kills him, leaving the season on cliff hanger.
@@Meatjam30 oh fuck, its gonna mirror the first episode's post credits scene
@@Meatjam30 We already had two of our Jerrys die, I wouldnt handle to see the one we've been with the most go out)
This episode actually made me cry. When the daughter ran up to the door and begged her dad to let her in, I was teary eyed. When Rick pretended to be him I straight up balwed. Then enjoy a good laugh when the orphans tried to disable the bomb.
Im excited for more of Dr Wong! She really seems determined to help Rick and he keeps going back (even in fly form) lol
"There was a bit more piss than I'd like, but it had really strong character work."
This line hits really, weirdly hard.
One thing about Rick and Jerry this episode, that stuck out to me was that Rick referred to Jerry as his "son-in-law", instead of just calling him "the idiot my daughter married" or just "Jerry" in an annoyed tone. I'm sure this must have happened before, but it felt very sweet for Rick to speak of Jerry as any kind of son.
This season has been really solid so far. I’ve no complaints.
Yeah this is legit the best season since like season 3
My only nitpick is that previous episode felt kind of desperate.
That’s Interesting asf
The only complaint I have it's that the season had mid season break but I can understand why because holy hell animation takes a while
Dr. Wong's advice applies to online fights and arguments pretty well. We often dismiss the "just ignore it" argument because of how often it gets thrown around, but it's actually pretty effective.
But that can often depend on the situation. Sure, when you're a creator (Be it film, writing, youtuber, ect), it is in your best interest to not engage with that toxicity. It only feeds into it. However, the same advice typically doesn't work when it comes to person to person relationships. A child bullying another child won't stop just because that kid is ignoring them. If anything they are more likely to try harder. Telling someone who is being bullied and harassed to just ignore the situation makes the victim in charge, and often in the seat of blame, of their bully rather than addressing the bully themselves.
@@dragongirl89115 It will, at least on the internet, which was the OP's point. On the internet there is no risk of physical violence. You can just ignore replies to your comments (half the time youtube doesn't even notify me lol). It's that simple. Don't pay attention to pixels on your screen. If you see opinions conflicting with your own, ignore them. In 99% of the cases it is not possible to convince a person on the internet that they are wrong. In real "offline" bullying I agree, fighting back is the best way. Even if you get hurt, they'll know not to target you anymore. Make sure at least one of their gang members is hurt as badly as you if not worse.
That’s Interesting asf
I just like the fact that Rick while still being himself and staying great, doesn't completely reject help. When he felt a certain way and needed answers, he went to Wong and actually listened to what she had to say about things. He clearly now sees her as someone who wants to help and not an enemy. Which for someone like Rick can be a not so easy thing to do.
And it makes sense because Rick got kicked in the balls (enemies coming after him). This growth feels more natural than the two crows shit.
Nice
I really appreciate the more sincere direction the show is taking
That’s Interesting asf
Ngl, I was caught off guard by the disclaimer at the beginning of the episode, but with how seriously Piss Master’s suicide was taken, it makes sense. Most adult cartoons use suicide as a punchline, which I don’t necessarily have an issue with personally, but it’s interesting to see it be taken so seriously
I also very much liked this episode for the reasons you showcase here. This was a Rick and Jerry episode that started at the end of a typical Rick and Morty adventure. I still wonder how Morty building his own island fort kicked off a war LOL.
Honestly, this has been the best season so far, and somehow it made Jerry my favorite character. This episode was the epitome of Jerry Cool. I mean, in the end he was even cooler than those orb bozos because they only cared about their image while Jerry's heart kept being pure. i guess Jerry's big heart and naivete should be more explored from now on. He's not a loser, he just has too much heart
EP 7 was the worst ep of the entire franchise
It’s generally better than 4 and 5 I think, but that’s only because you can’t get much worse than those
Doesn’t compare at all to 1-3 tho, I don’t think any season ever will
@@Zeriel00 no is not
@@cloudy772 I agree about season 4-5 being the weakest, 5 better overall.. like every episode not so bad except that one episode... but season 4 have the best finale... and great second half. season 5 feel like they trying stuff.
Jerry’s heart isnt exactly pure in this episode. He tried blasting someone for rejecting the orb. Why? Because he believe that he would be kick out of the group if he did not.
I haven't seen anyone comment on the fact Rick uses the orb (which the council said wouldn't stick to him) to protect Jerry and himself from the explosion in orphan island. That seems like a point by the writers on his emotional growth.
Right!!!? Excelent observation. Thank you!
This episode just showed how much Rick actually care about others in general. We all knew he cared, but he REALLY cares about others.
He just want to be a Hero
To me Rick does care for others, he just doesn’t want to. Because caring means to open up to someone and be emmotionally vulnerable., which puts him in harm, both physically and emmotionally For him, caring about other is toxic.
@@Bluedragon-iz3oo yes that is sort of whole deal, we a got that.
But is not that caring for others is toxic, is the caring and pretend to not to that is
What Toxic Rick was. Someone that cared but pretend not to
I know usually the fandom wants more canonical episodes and such, but the amount of well-earned growth the Smiths and Rick have gained is incredible. Especially Rick - the small gesture of healing all of Jerry's wounds after fighting PM without him even asking for it was pretty incredible and not something previous Rick would ever care to do. Even at one point Rick calls Jerry "My son-in-law" and I was like "...wait, has he EVER acknowledged Jerry like that before?". He might've said "my idiot son-in-law" or "my daughter's stupid husband" but I don't recall him ever acknowledging Jerry as his son-in-law. Even later in the episode, during his lower point, he calls Jerry his "stupid idiot son-in-law" again. Idk, small dialogue touches like that are just kinda great.
My favorite? The therapist giving Rick genuinely good advice without appearing like they are trying to control him. A nod to folks who might be apprehensive towards seeking out help when vulnerable.
Society as a whole could benefit from more therapy-inclusive content that isn't as heavy handed like in Bojack.
I actually liked this episode, best of the season. Probably best of the last few seasons
That’s Interesting asf
This episode showed how misunderstood Rick really is. His entire family knows he's going to therapy, trying to change, but they didn't even spoke to him calmly and asked him why he did it. I mean he did have a good reason for doing it, is it the best reason? No. But it is a step towards the right direction. Rick was still unsure of whether he's doing the right thing which is why he told Morty, the one he trusted the most in the family. Then Morty reacted violently and didn't even let Rick explain his side. Imagine being very vulnerable and the person you trusted the most blames you and immediately betrays your trust and told others. Then your own family gaslights you. This is why a lot of people going to therapy fail and relapse, it's not solely their fault, the people around them are also to blame.
I never went to therapy but that last scene in the garage was really depressing and anxious. Experience the same a lot of times, with people I thought I would never betray me. Everyone deserves to be heard, everyone deserves to be better, help them get better.
When Jerry beat that guy up, dragged him before his daughter, and made him apologize was easily the best part for me lol. And he was doing good stuff with the orb. Rick attempting to protect Jerry from the fact he caused PM to ya know, was a nice moment too. Jerry kinda loses me a little when he says he should’ve let him…ya on his daughter but overall I liked it. I was rooting for both Jerry and Rick and I wish somehow they both could’ve won in the end.
Even if Rick kinda messed up in the end (tho what the hell Morty), he showed a lot of personal growth. I hope they stick with him going to therapy, or at least imply that he's still going off-screen.
it shows Morty’s growth as a character that he doesn’t just do whatever Rick says or wants. Rick realised then and there that he can’t always trust Morty with the secrets he may need him to keep and I believe these themes will be integral to what is to come in the final two episodes of the season or the rest of the series as a whole.
@@ryanbroady1286 It's still very strange that this secret Morty immediately tells the family about but the only other time Rick's ever confided in him with personal stuff (the backstory) THAT Morty's been keeping extremely quiet about even though the family would have more of a reason to care about it. You'd think with everything Morty and the family have gone through they wouldn't really care about this. I still loved the episode though, I can see points on both sides of the argument of Rick telling Morty.
@@ryanbroady1286 Well Morty has been getting more and more jerkish over the course of the series.
This has some of the best development the show has seen I find it genuinely heart breaking when rick is almost punished for finally trying to do a good deed
Surprised you're not thinking this season is excellent, almost all of the episodes have been bangers.
I think the fact rick fixed jerry up after fighting piss master also shows growth
I enjoyed this episode a lot. And again consider it another solid entry into an overall solid season…
Season 6 most definitely has done a great job of letting the characters grow. Rick actually apologizing, taking others feelings into account and also not being the know all, god that it felt like he was during most of season 3&4.
I enjoyed how this episode leaned into darker territory too as imo Rick and Morty is at its best when tackling themes on a more serious level, while keeping its comedic presence intact.
I do agree that season 6 hasn’t had any episodes beyond the opener that have blown me away, but I overall would also say this is strongest the show has been since seasons 1-2.
And I remain very intrigued in how the writers chose to wrap up this season…
I’m positive the final two episodes will be hard character examinations on Morty and Rick… this felt like the final examination of Jerry for the season, which he most definitely earned as Season 6 has often felt more like Rick and Jerry than Rick and Morty… which honestly was a good change of pace…
But I’ve noticed there seems to be a noticeable avoidance to examine Morty since the Roy episode… and I’m pretty sure next week is going to show why.
Since the Roy episode their bond doesn't feel the same. Like, how quick Morty was to tell his family the secret about the suicide letter. Something big will definatly happen with Morty
Rick became an apologize too much character. Morty gets mad at him for trying to protect himself from Cookie Magneto and Rick just apologizes? For trying to protect himself? Not to mention he's such a coward letting his family take advantage of him and letting their bs slide as seen in this episode and Night Family and the Roy episode. Also, it just feels completely out of nowhere and unearned as there was no buildup to all of this and sometimes it feels like they just automatically took away some of Rick's prominent traits like his no nonsenseness and assertiveness and independence that made him him and then has the balls to tell you that you are a better person for being more dependent on your shitty family which is a toxic message to send. This feels more like character derailment than growth.
Rick taking on the mantle of the Piss Master reminds me of the season long arc of Malcolm aka the Monarch following in his fathers footsteps becoming the second Blue Morpho
Also, Rick helping Eugene's daughter is healthy because he's sorta getting a second chance to save the family he could not. That's why he's free and happy, pissing his best life.
However the overall message seems incongruous to the moral of the skateboard dinosaurs. Pick your battles, I suppose.
I liked this episode. It felt like a really nice growth for Rick as a character. Tho I did really hate how summer, morty, and Beth acted here. The ending especially felt very overwhelming and didn't have much of a payoff
It’s probably the first episode that has made me laugh a lot in a while.
The way he reacted to pissmaster reminded me of that episode with his secret toilet that the character voiced by Jeffrey wright and how he resisted every urge to admit he cared. Wow l8terallt as I’m typing this the video gets to the spot where. You point this out and I didn’t wait so yeah, here we are I’m gonna post this anyway cause I think it’s cool that you always point out thematic parallels like this , which I appreciate more than I should.. you rock bro
Literally one of my favorite episodes of the season
It's nice to get a break from the incest jokes by having an episode saturated with piss jokes (pun intended)
Personally I think this is one of the best episodes in a long time. They had a complex, nuanced moral theme and they didn't just end it with "nothing matters lol im so edgy". In fact there was no clear conclusion, but it still felt like there were no loose ends and everything had a point.
You nailed it when you said that this season is more consistent, and raised the floor (compared to S3-5). Several episodes from those older seasons left me feeling confused, bored, or grossed out (looking at YOU S5E4!). This season hasn't done that once for me, yet. The uncanny feeling that characters we know quite well, were being written by people who didn't actually grasp those characters, was very prevalent in those middle seasons too. Overall, I've quite enjoyed this season, and it's given me back a lot of optimism about the future of the show.
Jerry: "I should have just let him pee on my daughter!"
My rick and morty season ranking
2, 1, 6, 3, 4, 5
Really impressed with season 6, optimistic about the future of the show
I know S5 had some serious stinkers, but you gotta admit it had like 3 episodes that were better than S3-4 put together. Everything from the S3 "mad max" episode, up til the end of S4 was quite meh.
Rick and Morty: "We don't wanna be episodic. It's contrived and bullshit."
Also Rick and Morty: *Becomes Episodic*
This was unironically one of my favorite episodes in the show if not ever
When I was watching this I was like… oh wow what Rick is willingly going to therapy now?! Excuse me, Who are you and what did you do to Rick?
Edit:
For some reason people think this comment is me hating on Rick’s character development. Which I’m not. I’m just happy that Rick is actually having character development. He was a guy who was so oppose to the idea of therapy and it’s not for “smart” people but he finally came to terms to it. I’m happy for him. This is one of my favourite episodes in the show so far and I’m excited for the next eps to come out!
My thoughts exactly. The writers really messed Rick up.
First time experiencing a character with an arc?
@@JCMiniPainting Probably the first time I experienced a character with the stupidest and shoddiest character arc ever especially for a tv show.
@@JCMiniPainting I actually don’t hate his character development tho! The comment is not about me hating it, in fact Im loving it so far!
@@aletanook idk I wouldn’t say that. I went on a deep dive on Rick’s character arc. Personally don’t consider season 4-5 (and i guess season 3 as well kinda?) to be part of his character arc cuz ngl rick (and morty) were so out of character in those seasons that I don’t consider those seasons as his character arcs.
Personally this season was a big step up for him. The “smartest man” is finally accepting the idea of therapy after thinking that ‘therapy isn’t for smart people’. The man who always has his guard up is finally opening up to people specially his family. He was close off from them in season 1-2 but he’s finally opening up to them more. The cynical man is finally seeing things in a positive light and being more open minded to morty’s ideas.
Idk this is just my observation on Rick but I would like to hear your observations with him tho!
I don’t think the orb plot line was about meta stuff. I think it was just letting Jerry grow.
In any other season, Jerry would have gone mad with power, but here? He invites his family to be his bridge crew, to get in on the action with him.
Closest thing we have to a power mad Jerry is doofus Jerry.
I quite like the season so far. Every episode has made me laugh out loud multiple times and has had some very interesting character work and meta-analysis of writing and the entertainment industry. The show is very different than it was from season 2, but I personally prefer the growth.
I've been appreciating the consistency
this has been one of my favorite season of rick and morty tbh
You’re such a brilliant mind who absolutely deserves every bit of views :)
wait, but i thought morty was supposed to go back to being subservient thanks to having the part of him that wasn’t stuck in the roy machine? did they just give up on it right away, or is it explained away with “episodic antics”?
I remember I watched rick and morty back when season 1-3 was out. Was sick at home on a friday so just needed something to do. I remember watching it all and getting done and just asking myself 'wtf did I just watch?' I never really touched it again after that, but I watched clips from this episode, and I'm happy to find that the series has grown, and I may eventually come back to watching it.
I thought this was one of the most thought provoking and well executed episode of Rick and Morty ever. Rick was able to examine and address patterns of behavior he didn’t like (embracing the whole point of therapy), and then make positive changes. However it wasn’t a “cure” since we see him backslide a bit in the end.
I was not expecting to like this episode, but I really did.
I get this feeling that Piss Master came about in the creation process. Someone mentions something about how CGI is everywhere and it can do anything. Someone else chimes in "Yeah, you could just do streams of piss and it would look great." Then, "What could you do with piss?" Then, "What CAN'T you do with piss"......and a star was born.
I feel like so far this season is just shy of reaching the heights of season 2, but not quite there. Weirdly enough though I might like it more than season 1, and possibly even season 3.
I really don't care all that much if they don't have like a big game-changing finale this season just because of how great the season's been overall. Besides, so far that's only really been a thing in seasons 2 and 5.
Season 4 had a huge finale!
@@Johnny2Cellos Kinda? I think at the time that finale felt like a huge deal, but because of how hard they shelved Space Beth immediately after that finale, barely utilizing her until literally this year, I have a hard time feeling its impact upon rewatch.
I think it only felt as big and canonical as it did because of how allergic to big status quo shifts Season 4 was. It feels less like the federation taking over, or Evil Morty destroying the citadel, and more like one of their mid-season shake ups like Morty’s grave in season 1, the Beth clone concept being introduced near the end of season 3, or Jessica’s mind being altered at the start of season 5.
I’d love to be proven wrong though, and that they do something really big at the end of this season. But if they don’t I really wouldn’t be all that mad, and personally wouldn’t want to pressure the writers into making *every* season finale some huge game-changing event since they’re still gonna be going for at least another five or so seasons.
It wasn’t as big as Season 2 or 5, but it had the Space Beth stuff PLUS the follow up to Bird Person and reveal that he has a kid. It was substantial, definitely bigger than seasons 1 or 3
@@Johnny2Cellos Ah yeah, I get what you’re saying.
Idk, I’m sure this season’s finale will be great, regardless of what they choose to do with it. Though I was surprised they didn’t do, like, a multiple-part story arc like I thought they would.
This episode is definitely about the guy on twitter who called Harmon an alcoholic.
Dont forget that rick telling morty the truth is also a great moment. People say its dumb but i like that rick is keeping with his honest self.
It's cool to see how much the animation has improved over the years. This episode looked great visually
I love where this is going so much.
Thank you for the piss breakdown 😭😭😭😭
It definitely took a turn I wasn't expecting when rick found pissmaster dead. I thought he would just clone him.
Same
Fiction is beautiful sometimes. One Piece made me think a grown man who wears baby clothes is a complete badass and this show made me feel extremely sympathetic for a guy named Piss Master.
I’m really glad that the writers figured out the kind of random weird story that works well. You could kinda see the similarities between this and the sperm episode but one is unnecessarily crude, gross, has moments where the characters act completely out of character and was just boring to watch and the other is an episode just as strange and random but also entertaining and surprisingly emotional
Isn't it odd that Morty grows with the rest when there was a whole episode setting up him getting reverse development? Or am I missing something?
we all need a pissmaster in our lives
I'm just glad they didn't make the piss radioactive yellow or something. It looks more like snot than piss.
Is it me or does Pissmaster committing suicide feel a lot coincidental to Jason David Frank's suicide because of his divorce and wife, the part with Pissmaster's daughter though felt extremely similar to JDF's daughters reaction too; this is just a very sad coincidence that almost happened on the same day, because this episode was so close to airing on the same day :(
Say what you want about JDF, he always did the right thing. Always.
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 100%
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 Also saw him and Kevin Conroy in 2015 at the same convention, and they both died within 10 days.
Fell in love with your analyses over a year ago starting the Bojack when I was going through a tough time in the pandemic. I'd gladly watch an analysis of piss if you did it at this point, boobalah.
Unrelated but are you gonna be doing an Inside Job breakdown?
Possibly! I want to but I have been really busy, seeing if I can squeeze it in my schedule
@@Johnny2Cellos NICE!!!
Season 2 has been WILD!
I'm still trying to form my final opinions on it bh rewatch since there were some things I didn't know what to feel about (like when they came back to Reagan after they realized that their alt universe actually suck. Idk, kinda rubbed me the wrong way, if I was to write the ending I would've made Reagan atleast a little bit mad and maybe playfully punish them ot something)
But overall it was a wild ride and I want to see some character/episode breakdown. Reagan and Statler specifically. Reagan erasing his memories admittedly made me tear up ngl 😭
They used the song from Space Jam and replaced "ya'llready for this?" with "yall ready for piss?"
It got a smile from me, that made it a worthwhile watch.
I was actually surpried about this episode. gotta be one of the best in a while.
this was one of my all time favourite episodes
this episode was great but theres going to be a lot of golden shower rule34 for summer
I'm sorry, but I cannot see the commentary on fan criticism as anything but "They're all just big dumb sweaty nerds that don't know anything about writing. WE know exactly what we're doing!"
If they actually were trying to separate the toxic fans from the reasonable ones, seasons 4-6 would not exist.
My fav episode of the season and one of the best from the show in general
Good analysis. This season is 100% better than 4 and 5 together
It was the right kind of piss... seriously though this might be the second best episode of this season so far, after the first episode.
Truly one of the better episodes IMO. I feel that another thing that shouldn't go unnoticed about the conclusion of the episode is how it, in one fell swoop, disarmed a lot of the tension from the heavier themes while simultaneously demonstrating that while Rick's character underwent a bit of growth during this episode, he was still flawed in some pretty apparent ways, kind of playing to that sitcom trope of everything canonically returning to a default norm at the beginning of every episode. And the whole scene it mostly funny because he pretty much played everything up to that point perfectly. All he had to do was keep his big mouth shut and he would have seemed like a born-again saint.
And maybe it's also an indication of his deeper desire to be the "hero" in any capacity, even if it's just Morty knowing he's keeping(but technically not keeping) a dark secret to protect others.
"perfect" episode (imho), haven't laughed this much in a while ^^
The difference between the jerry for the show and jerry from the comic is their fight or flight reaction. Jerry from the show’s first instinct is to run and like a rat it’s only when he’s backed into a corner that he steps up. comic jerry’s first instinct is to attack, (spoiler: like when morty was kidnapped by a drug lord) and its only once the adrenalin wears off that he starts to freak out. While seeing the lower lows of higher highs is entertaining so I the flashes of jerry’s general competence.
The shows jerry has become a cross between meg and stan smith. The dysfunctional lightning rod is fundamentally lazy both in and out of universe, and you can only pile on different flaws for long. Jerry will never lose is butt monkey status, but he’s finally starting to feel like a character and not just the shows scapegoat.
To be honest with you after this episode I definitely see another 14 seasons of the show.I feel like it will be amazing 10 years we’ll be talking about it like how we talk about the Simpsons and Futurama and such it’ll be a household show name
I felt like Jerry became Rick in this episode and vice versa
Good call! This can definitely be logged as old and seat pt 2
You’re right about the fan thing. That what corporations use to lure us and keep doing bad business practices. They also like to harass people sometimes. I know because a fan of Temtem likes to harass me because I warn people not to enjoy Temtem because they don’t care about you they only care for fans.
this is defo their most underrated episode
but we need that 5 hour cut
I don’t haha
Someone in Hollywood was like ya know what let's all have golden showers on the tv this year
rick and morty just got into its community stage
Something extra on the scene with pissmaster's daughter: Rick reassured her because she reminded him of Beth. Rick related to pissmaster, and so seeing HIS daughter reminded him of his OWN situation with his own daughter. Really insightful scene
This is my new favorite episode i loved it so much
Its a human moment, Morty, its a human moment.
One of my fav episodes of the season
I think the ending was a cop out to reset the status quo personally, but good analysis
At least there wasn't any incest, they can drown me in piss for all I care but I am so done with the incest.
probably one of the best episodes
Will Fotre really was prefect casting for Pissmaster. The man has more or less made a whole career walking the line between funny & sad.
Justice for Last Man on Earth!
@@Johnny2Cellos Here Here
I like the summary in the outro. Season 5 was mostly terrible, but the few good bits it had were *really* good. Season 6 hasn't had anything like Season 5's high points so far, but there has also been a lot less Season 5 madness. I think that's good.
this maybe my favorite episode of the season of Rick and Morty so far at least Rick has finally gotten a lot of character development and Jerry getting a lot more stand out moments in Season 6 from beating pissmaster and becoming a superhero in the episode this Season is Great
Its really cool to know that rick can’t do EVERYTHING(im referring to him trying to resurrect pissmaster but failing)
I liked it a lot it was a very good story overall, i just really hated the ending its like all that work he went through just got demolished at the end. :(
I wish he didnt tell them about the letter.
It's never occurred to me before, but Summer is a redhead when nobody else in the family is...
I keep hearing people say Marvel poached Jeff Loveness but he was a writer at Marvel comics from 2015-2017