Top 6 Best and Worst "Fake" Legendary Pokémon
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- There are well over one hundred Legendary and Mythical Pokémon at this point, but not all of them really justify why we should consider them as an actual "Legend" other than because the Professor said so. But, then there are other Pokémon that you could swear were Legendary because of all the hype surrounding them, yet they're no more special than a Pidgey; yet another way of being a Fake Legendary Pokémon. So let's look at both the Fake Legends that shouldn't be there, and the ones that already are in all but name only...
Cosmoem exists because that's how celestial bodies are formed. Cosmog is just a gas cloud (hence -smog), but Cosmoem is a Nebula, the precursor to a planet or star
@@Nethaura plus flamingo is wasted slot
While that's a cool thing to reference- it still could've just been a Cosmog form though instead of a new Pokémon haha.
it also has a similarity to larva > cocoon > adult evolution lines
I thought Cosmoem was based on a neutron star, hence it being incredibly dense.
@@rjd1922I believe its a Proto-star, wich means its basically a newborn star that doesnt have enough mass but has really high density
Don't forget that Rotom had legendary theme playing when battling it as well, that's the largest giveaway
I mean this HAD to be a last minute change right? All the signs point to it...
@@emperorcubone I agree, but it worked quite well in the end, Rotom is great for being the Machine spirit thats videly used, maybe that's why they changed it's status (+having fridge as legendary Pokemon seems a little bit odd)
Most likely, it's meant to be a fakeout
@@astilla9 not any less odd than the other appliances as legendaries. Frost is my favorite, though thats mainly because ice is my favorite type
Volcarona: _Locked away at the bottom of ancient runes in fear of its power. Legends tell of its power, which is like that of the Sun itself._
Verizion: Im gonna jump from this cliff, then the player will notice me :D
I totally forgot the Swords of Justice literally run out in front of you in the road like a deer! That makes it so much worse; that's like the opposite of what a Legend is supposed to do!
Salute the Sun, not fear it.
Tbf, the idea of a Volcarona with 600 BST is frankly terrifying
In addition to the Lucario and Rotom you brought up, I also used to think that Spiritomb was a legendary, and as a result I thought it was so cool and unique that it champion had one. It had a bunch of lore about being full of souls and people in ancient times having to seal it away, and the weird convoluted method to obtain it reminded me of the Regis. Also, I had a “Cynthia’s Rayquaza” trading card, so her having a legendary wasn’t completely unrealistic
Why did Cynthia have Rayquaza, and not a Gen 4 legend?
It often feel like unown is an unfinished concept.
It almost need a swarm mode like wishiwashi, that gets stronger the more variety you have. Thats how we see it in the movie.
Honestly it's probably just a victim of the hardware, and if the idea for Unown had been on the DS or later they would've had more unique gameplay functions.
Unown Script form
There should be a way to use specific letters to spell or at least an abbreviation of something that unlocks super move of something. Like spelling E N T E I would give fire blast to ur party of Unown. Or M E W T W O would b a super strong psychic attack
Silvally was created to be a weapon against the Ultra Beasts, can change into different types varying on the disk, and was modeled after Arceus. I think that’s enough to put it up with Mewtwo and Genesect rather than being like Porygon or Golurk
Dusknoir has the most legendary sounding origin/role of any non legendary pokemon. It's the literal grim reaper, death itself. A job that most fans wrongly associate with darkrai or giratina. Also there's a massive aura of mystery surrounding it, such as the signals it gets from the spirit world, a currently unexplored place in the pokemon universe. If not dusknoir as a legendary, then it's possible that the signals it receives are its master, an unknown legendary pokemon that created the spirit world.
Hmm, I'd never considered Dusknoir because of his connection to previous Pokemon, but you're right! It it had been standalone people would easily think of it as a higher caliber.
In thr movies- unknown=super powerful with mysterious powers.
In thr games- unown=rivaling Magikarp for weakest pokemon
Sinnoh region be like: Random "fake" legends, go!
Right? Maybe they ALL were supposed to be Legends, but then they thought that Really would've been too much...
Someone made criteria of what considers to be a legendary.
1. Needs to be strong
2. Need to be a lore behind it
3. Need to be a just ONE of them in the region they were introduced.
@@mihai1997 4. (Sometimes) Be the origin of a Battle Gimmick.
Z-Moves, Dynamax, Tera
Another case for the paradox pokemon being legendary is that they were banned along with legendaries in Regulation H
Oh boy I can't wait for him to talk about my favorite legendary Pokémon Silvally, I'm sure he has nice things to say
Poipole being a starter and also an ultra beast is fine. You could grab the entire Pokédex from another dimension and they would all be ultra beasts. you could even put OUR starters in that dimension and they woudl call them ultra beasts
Unown really is a 'what if' kind of Pokémon, their Pokédex entries almost exclusively say that they need a group for their powers to work.
I may not agree about some things but it still is interesting to hear your points. great video!
0:26 WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT CHIEN PAO THE GOAT?!!?!
Right ! How dare he ?
12:40 I can shed some light on why Type: Null is considered a Legendary Pokémon using Mew and Mewtwo as counterpart examples, but this requires actually acknowledging Mythical and Legendary Pokémon as different. So Mythical Pokémon are so rare or powerful that even their existence is called into question because of how rarely seen they are, whereas Legendary Pokémon are rare/ powerful, but are typically revered for it in some way. With this in mind, take Mew as the example of a Mythical in the core game Canon: unless you were part of Team Rocket with the cloning experiments that led to Mewtwo there was no chance of knowing about Mew at all with the only hints at it's existence being leftover diary entries from the Mansion that Mewtwo destroyed and Mewtwo itself. Although this one part is speculation, Ditto is heavily implied to be failed clones of Mew, but this helps everyone see Mewtwo's status as Legendary as it was made to be Mew but even stronger (which everyone agrees was an absolute success). With this in mind, Mewtwo is Legendary because it's revered for its power as one is the strongest Pokémon ever, even among other Legendary Pokémon. Going back to Type: Null with all this in mind, there are definitive parallels to Mew/Mewtwo and Type: Null/Silvally and Arceus. Arceus is more or less the creator god of the entire Pokémon multiverse as we know it, so it makes sense that humans who knew of it would try to recreate a Pokémon in it's image in some way, which in the case of all the Type: Null was to be a part of the BKP project. And outside of LA or events in the games, there's no way to encounter or learn about Arceus at all aside from an entry in the Canalave Library, which the Aether Foundation uses later to create Silvally for the BKP (which was called Type: Full at the time). The AF put that control mask on the Type: Full (Silvally) to reduce the effects of their rejection of the RKS System after they went berserk, then renamed it Type: Null before putting them in cryogenic stasis, labeling them as failures. But with this in mind, Type: Null is a Legendary Pokémon because its actual form (Type:Full/ Silvally) is the exact same thing, but the difference is that Type: Null still rejects the RKS System. The evolution itself is more symbolic than literal, evidenced by the fact that both are identical in design, that they are the only Pokémon that are under the category "Synthetic Pokémon" and that Type: Null will only break the mask to be Silvally again when it trusts is trainer enough to accept and use the RKS System.
Hope this helps! 😛
You're right about all that, I just don't understand how it could be revered for its power when it was a failure, then put in stasis for a long time. There would be no legends of its feats, even after it awoke because it would just be One kid using it as his ace, doing mediocre tasks at best. A far cry from the mythos of Mewtwo destroying the entire Pokemon Mansion...
@@emperorcubone My interpretation is that what made them Legendary was the power that the Type: Null/Full/Silvally have and the rarity of them as there are only 4 in existence. The AF only labelled them as failures because their going berserk made them unable to be controlled so they couldn't be used for the BKP. The AF ironically made a Pokémon made in the image of a God, but without the understanding or insight that a Pokémon needs a bond to bring out their full potential. And even when going berserk it passed all their initial expectations as a Pokémon more than capable of killing Ultra Beasts, which is crazy in my opinion.
Cresselia, “Who just runs around wasting your time” 😂🤣
My headcannon for paradox pokemon is that the time machine alters their base stats making them stronger/weaker
That's a very specific side-effect of a time machine, but I suppose it's possible!
My boi Arcanine isn't on there 😢 as he was categorised as legendary in gen 1
The Ultimate confusion!
@emperorcubone at least for Gen 1 and I think that Entei was created due to the confusion with Arcanine. A legendary doggo
@@gemmabarnes Aren't the Legendary Beasts now thought to be based off of cats, specifically tigers, lions, and leopards?
@@Compucles they are not couldn't Entei have been what Arcanine should of been
@ Sure, as long as you accept that it's a legendary cat taking the role instead of a legendary dog.
I feel like Volcainian could be right there with Zarude, waste of a type combo unceremoniously plopped onto mystery gift and labeled a legend
I don't mind Volcanion because I just like that we have at least one Water/Fire type, but you're right in that it has ZERO lore to justify its inclusion.
@emperorcubone i have extreme personal bias because I dislike unique type combos being locked to legends and doubly so for my favorite of the starter type combos. Especially bow that it's the only one of the starter type combos not on a non legend
Zarude isn't nearly as much of a waste of a type combo though; there are enough fully-evolved Grass/Dark types to fill up an entire team now with Shiftry, Cacturne, Meowscarada, Wo Chien, and Brute Bonnet also existing.
It remains crazy to me that Cresselia and Darkrai are different classifications on this stuff.
This is another reason I don't care/don't think the distinction matters nearly as much as everyone else seems to...
I’m going to be honest when I initially learned of lucario I honestly thought it was a legendary due to seeing it in the new movie and that’s kind of been the formula so to speak with certain legendaries such as mew and mewtwo and even darkrai
6:50 it’s important to mention that legendary Pokémon don’t have to be unique. In fact, there are several Legendary and Mythical Pokémon that are confirmed to live in groups or be part of a broader species, including Shaymin, Manaphy, Heatran, Kubfu, and even the legendary bird trio. Iirc, the Kanto birds are only classified as legendary because of how powerful they are in lore compared to most Pokémon, so that could be what’s happening with Zarude
For zoruark "we've already seen evolution is not a disqualifer" did my guy just for get time is linear and zoruark came out 6 years before sun and moon? At the time evolution was a disqualifier, no legendary had evolution lines and it was only when they wanted to use it as a plot device in gen 7 they changed that rule
I was referring to the concept of Legendary Pokemon evolving as a whole, so that it's not an excuse that holds up forever. I'm well aware that Gen 5 was before Gen 7; I've been with Pokemon from the beginning.
In scarlet and violet the ultra beasts had "sub-legendary" removed from their code
I believe that Type: Null and Silvally deserve their legendary rankings when you start to pull in the connections to arceus. Type: Null feels like the Aether foundation trying to create a god, but they failed miserably. However as Gladion trains and befriends it, Silvally can finally live up to the “artificial god” status.
Lack of Spiritomb is concerning.
Spiritomb definitely qualifies for consideration, but Sinnoh already had so many others! It was like their favorite pass-time to create fake Legends...
I feel like Rotom loses its "legendary" status by dint of how the later games make it FEEL like they're everywhere possessing everything.
If it's your phone, your pokedex, and your vape, it's no longer got the "feeling" of being legendary to me. That's in part just because I dislike the "talking rotom phone/dex" shtick that multiple games have, though. It felt like a failure of a wacky sidekick and I disliked its presence.
This is true, but what I'm saying is they only starting putting it everywhere to cover their tracks in forgetting to follow through on making it a Legend like they intended! (Probably not, but still...)
I think Cosmoem works because it pushes Lillie to seek out the Altar of the Sunne/Moone in order to help Nebby get better after what Lasamine did to it. The transition from an energetic Cosmog to a stationary Cosmoem drives her story, so that alone justifies it.
Plus making it a three stage line makes it almost like Nebby is Lillie’s starter, even if she never officially catches it. She’s going on her own journey at the same time as you are, and Nebby evolving marks a big shift for her character both times it happens.
Well i guess we could call them the pluto pokemon :)
Man, you hear about Pluto? That's messed up...
@@emperorcubone I mean i have stooped low enough to know what the word means... Its just that Lunala Airlin.. No Spacelines didnt let me go that far. Ill have to ask the solgaleos.
I still maintain that there should be a legendary unlocked for getting all forms of Unown. Maybe it could have a gimmick of having a 26 move pool with one move starting with each letter of the alphabet (though that could be difficult for translation reasons)
That'd be pretty cool! And hey, it may yet happen one day; after all it took us decades to see Farfetch'd or Girafarig to get any attention...
*Deep breath* In pokemon Mystery Dungeon Eplorers of sky, all pokemon species got at least one unique item, and while most of those items are gotten through random chance or combining weaker ones, legendary pokemon items were typically obtianed by bringing an item simply called a "key" with you to postgame dungeons and using it to unlock an optional door on one of the last floors. Rotom is notable as its item is obtained on the second to last floor of the dungeon where you encounter Palkia, and more importly, the item description has a line saying something along the lines of "it slumbers deep in a dungeon waiting for someone to challenge it" which is a line of text only seen otherwise seen in the descriptions of legendary pokemon items like the ones for moltres or Giratina
*exhausted breathing*
The evidence was already mounting, but it seems like it's just fact now that Rotom was indeed a Legend for MOST of the game's planning...
12:40 I periodically forget that Type:Null is even considered a legendary
I legit didn't even know it was until like a year after Sun and Moon came out...
I have a term for this group: Pseudo-Pseudo Legendries, like Flygon & Aggron belong in this group too.
I think the paradox pokemon aren't legendary because in area zero, you can catch as many of them as you want except the actual legendary paradox pokemon, but for legendary pokemon you typically can only catch one per playthrough
I could have sworn that in Scarlet and Violet it was either confirmed or at the very least hinted at that the Paradox Pokémon DID come here through time travel, BUT instead of directly coming from the past/future of OUR timeline, Pokemon went the multiverse route and had the Paradoxes come from other timelines. Which if true does have some crazy implications. Probably means that the Paradox Pokémon of Scarlet probably came from a past where Pokémon and humans never coexisted and remained isolated from one another, causing the Pokémon to evolve in a different way. And the Paradox Pokémon from Violet comes from a future where humans most likely died out and all that was left were these robot Pokémon.
Pokemon has confirmed the multiverse before with the Delta Episode or Ultra Wormholes dropping in Looker, but different TIMES in the multiverse is a new window for sure! But then if an Ursaluna randomly showed up they'd probably call it a Paradox Ursaring, so who's to say these other Paradox forms aren't a real evolution somewhere...?
@ Ursaluna I think, in my opinion, is an open and shut case. Hisui is confirmed to be OUR Sinnoh of the past as opposed to multiverse. Going on theory here, but it’s entirely possible that Bloodmoon Ursaluna is the last of its kind. With the evolution item not making it past Hisui, Ursaring have basically lost their way to evolve. And similar to regional forms, this Ursaluna probably had to evolve/change to survive in this new land.
That is of course not to dismiss the latter half of your comment though. It is entirely possible that the other Paradoxes could be new evolutions. The Pokédex makes things awkward for the Violet ones though, as it seems to imply that most of them were man made.
basicaly alternate realities
since terapagos is implied to be able to travel between realities
The timeline thing is iffy either way in Pokemon.... since the problematic thing is that so many reference in future games are made to past games. I personally always divide the timeline this way
Timeline 1: Every Original Game in region so R/B (Green for Japan) > G/S > R/S > D/P > B/W > XY > S/M > SW/SH > SV
Timeline 2: Every third version - Yellow > Crystal > Emerald > Platinum > BW2 > USUM
Timeline 3: Every remake - FR/LG > HG/SS > ORAS > BDSP
Timeline 4: Lets Go Timeline
Timeline 5: Referenced by Zinnia in ORAS
Timeline 6: Timeline where the evil teams won (Rainbow Rocket).
The Anabel from SM is a faller from Timeline 2, while USUM Anabel is a faller from timeline 1. Same for Looker.
This way, every timeline also starts with Kanto, albeit the timelines can alter some in terms of when events actually take place (Like the Lets Go Timeline happening later in terms of Pokedex development, because Red/Blue don't have pokedexes).
@ B/W and BW2 would be in the same timeline though. BW2 isn’t a third version; it’s a direct sequel to BW1.
Kinda wish Meltan was the galuim pokemon as it’s the only metal to become a liquid at a room temperature.
What about mercury?
all of the Ultra Beasts are hurt in Legend status since they are common in their home dimension
also, iirc they were demoted to a sub-legend category
Isn't the sub-legendary category still filled with Legends though, right? Like technically Articuno, Raikou, Azelf, the Tapus, etc. are all Sub-Legendary...
@@emperorcubone true
I do wonder what difference GF saw in Ultra Beasts and Paradoxes that warrants only 1 category being “legendary”
0.000 people think the “sun legend from the third movie book” is volcarona…
There's at least one, but maybe multiple videos I watched about it years back.
7:54 I CAN’T 😂
I think I realized Unown wasn’t legendary wayyyyy too late
4:30 I don’t have a problem with cosmoem, I like its design (and it’s absurd weight for its size)
Though it would be funny if it got its own attack in stored power (that would make it sweep though many Pokémon…untill weavile shows up and walls it)
paradox pokemon shouldn't count because they're very common and you can just walk around and catch as many as you want
I immediately have to ask why Chien-Pao "shouldn't qualify as a legendary".
My theory for the unown is that they are only that strong when they come together. Each feat of strength they show is when there is a large number of them. So 1 on its own is weak but get them in a group and they can do amazing things.
Pretty strong arguments.
And yes, like a lot of other (I’m sure), for years I genuinely believed Rotom was legendary :/
Phione is definitely the worst one in my humble opinion.
I hate how they just randomly gave Manaphy a baby form that takes a near identical design to it, and stripped everything good about Manaphy in the process, giving Phione absolutely no unique features.
Oh, except for one very unique feature where the baby pokemon CAN'T EVOLVE, and thus Phione is forever stuck being a useless version of Manaphy.
Unknown was wild but your explanation made sense.
Thankfully, another of Platinum's improved-upon features from Diamond and Pearl is giving players access to Rotom as soon as they can use Cut in the overworld, after beating Gardenia. You just have to wait until 8pm real time, then you can hit the TV to make it come out. Sadly, you can't change it form through legal means since the secret key used to access all the appliances Rotom goes into to change forms was a mystery gift event item.
I was dreading that Heatran would be one of the "fake" legendaries, but I'm glad it wasn't the case
An interesting thing about the Manmade Legendaries is that they were created by Evil Organizations
Mewtwo was cloned from Mew by Team Rocket
Genesect was revived from a fossil and modified by Team Plasma
Silvally was created by the Aether Foundation as an Ultra Beast killer
Huh... I guess they're the only ones that have the authority to decree something Legendary!
All hail emperor Cubone!!
Dropping this at 5 am is diabolical.
I'm 2 hours in the future
2 pm over here
Well some people are on the east coast, where it's 8 o'clock.
Well good morning, i guess lol
P.S. according to RUclips rewind 2024 - you are my number 1 gaming content creator:D
I would say Type: Null is supposed to be a more literal Chimera or that the Aether Foundation is a nod to Cadmus in creating monsters. But it does feel a little hack kneed in implementation.
I don’t like Diance for two reasons.
1:It is very hard to come by, being a distribution Pokemon.
2:The Pokédex said Diance was an evolution of Carbink. I then tried to evolve a Carbink because I wanted Diance. I realized my foolishness at around level 80.
Haha, that reminds me of the first time I tried to get a Steelix as a kid by leveling up my Onix enough...
@ That happened to me too, actually. I saw Steelix on my brother’s copy of gold and he said it was an evolution from Onix. So I tried leveling up an Onix in my Pokemon game. Blue.
I think the only reason Silvally is considered legendary is because (at least during SM and USUM) there were only 3. The one Gladion has, the one you receive, and a third one still in stasis. In addition it a sort of Mew and Mewtwo situation, where Arceus is the original and Silvally is the manmade replica. By SwSh though, it probably shouldn't be seeing as Macro Cosmos got hold of the project details somehow and apparently planned to mass produce it like you mentioned the Aether Foundation doing in this very video, which is why a random Macro Cosmos employee gives it to you in the battle tower
Heatran should be on here, there is nothing legendary about it
It's exactly as Legend-like as Rotom, so you can make that case either way you want!
Rpg features from other games you would love ❤ in pokemon
Hmm, that might be interesting! We've already seen they're open to adopting some new features like in Legends Arceus...
@emperorcubone make it a video! And soaring in Oras
Okay game freak, what's Whitney doing in Unown Ruins?
Tbh, looks like an anime teaser: what if ash really was supposed to represent red, and Johto adventures were supposed to feature Ethan, who'd meet Whitney on an early route?
And then Whitney is the new Misty? I guess that could work...
2:01 to be fair to the lil mercury boi is that he from here.... the REAL world making them ¨mythical¨ to the pokemon world but not to us
I don't care about what they say, rotom is a legendary
That one book said so, which makes it official!
10:39 lol at Espimon being a "starter" from another dimension ...Digimon
It seemed to match the vibes of the Ultra Recon Squad to me!
@emperorcubone , right????? I'd love for you to do a video that somehow has a comparison with Digimon, to show people how both have so much that's distinct to bring to the table.
Heatran is about the most non-legendary legendary Pokémon. Nothing about it says that it is any type of legend, no aura at all.
Volcarona feels so much more like a legend overall and it feels super special. I actually thought that Volcarona was a legend with how hard it can be to come across and the thing with there only being 1 available if you can't get a Larvesta egg.
Its not only Heatran either.... why is Volcanion a legendary. Its just a fire hose. In fact... Heatran is more of a legendary than Volcanion is.
C'mon no Kubfu? It's far less legendary than UBs and Type Null
I will always accept Kubfu slander here! I don't hate it, but it seems completely unnecessary as well; we easily could have just picked which Urshifu we wanted...
@@emperorcubone Kubfu seems like it was meant for the early game since players can access the Isle of Armor DLC at the start of the game after they gain access to the Wild Area.
Crazy how now Manaphy is much easier to get it shiny 😂
9:50, yes, Lucario is in Smash Bros, but that has nothing to do with Pokemon, or the video. What that only mentioned for fanservice. or because of the bad fandom?
0:48 it is strange how Arcanine is called the "Legendary Pokemon" but it doesn't even feel like one.
I mentioned Lucario in Smash to further highlight its popularity.
Funny thing is that Paradox Pokemon cannot count, due to Roaring Moon referecing Mega Salamence, so if Roaring Moon should be a legendary, then so should Mega Salamence and then you travel on thin ice, imo.
Thats kinda the problematic thing about Paradoxes in general, they resemble existing mons, so if they are legendaries, the Pokemon they resemble, also should get the legendary status in return, else its weird.
Like, lets look at Sandy Shocks dex entry for example: Some scientists claim that this mysterious being is a Magneton that has lived for 10 thousand years. So according to the scientists, its just a Magneton that underwent a change because of its age.
Heck, Koraidon/Miraidon being legendaries, when Cyclizar is not, is already kinda problematic from a story telling perspective, since Koraidon/Miraidon are in reality just past and future versions of Cyclizar.
Iron Valiant dex entry - This oddity's name is borrowed from that of an object described in the Violet Book. One theory holds that it is in fact a robot-the product of a mad scientist's efforts to create the most powerful psychic Pokémon of all (The scientist combining Gallade and Gardevoir, 2 regular Pokemon).
However... the Legendary Paradox Mons should be Legendaries, especially if we take into account Iron Boulder, which directly references Terrakion - It resembles a Pokémon described in a dubious magazine as a Terrakion that had been modified by an evil organization.
At least Ultra Beasts are their own things and don't reference 'normal' Pokemon.
Talking more about this concept though.... what is so legendary about Volcanion? Its just a fire hose at the end of the day.
5:48 You made this up.
I never heard anyone compare Volcarona to this image.
Nor can I find anything to confirm your claim.
It's been years at this point so I don't remember where it was, but I definitely saw a video discussing the topic! And I'm pretty sure it was a collaboration, so that's at least two people endorsing the theory...
I 100% agree with this list
I never liked Heatran as a legendary. I feel like it could be an evolution for Magcargo actually lol
To make Type null & silvally's case worse, it is confirmed they ARE being manufactured, just in Galar instead of Alola. Still, that alone should disqualify them from being called legendary.
Also another pokemon, or in this case three of them, that shouldn't be legendary is the Kanto bird trio. Yes, they are strong and are few in number, but let's not forget there also are enough of them to develop regional variants, their strength is questionable, and most importantly they have no lore. I intensely hate this last part, since the whole point of a legendary pokemon is to be a figure of legend, a creature from folklore whom were revered as or straight up are deities or other similar beings. Yet Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres get no lore whatsoever, only people constantly describing them as flying around. That's not an ancient myth or legend, that's just bird-watching.
The birds do have lore, but you have to watch Pokémon 2000: The Movie to learn it...
It's also a bit shallow, focused more on showing Lugia off as their Trio Master...
@ i wouldn’t count that as its movie-only lore. In the games they hint at a connection between Lugia & the birds through mechanics like their roaming rest stop in Kalos or Lugia’s encounter conditions in Hoenn & Alola, but never in any direct telling. No character speaking of it, no ancient writings, nothing.
tbh..... if manufactured means it cannot be a legendary, that provides a problem for Genesect and Magearna being mythicals as well.
Technically, the Johto Legendary Beasts are manufactured as well... by Ho-Oh.
Mewtwo is also manufactured, since it wouldn't have existed if humans didn't tamper with Mews DNA.
And if we want to go really technical, every legendary/Pokemon is manufactured, because they were brought into existence by Arceus.
Thats kinda the problem with the argument.
Yeah, Rotom isn't that rare anymore, now that most trainers get one to power their Pokédexes in more recent generations of the games and seasons of the anime.
This list isn't really the best and worst "fake" legendaries: its the legendaries that shouldn't be, and the non-legendaries that should be. Two separate concepts. Shouldn't be in the same list.
Spiritomb should be a legendary
I don't disagree! It required a lot more work than some of them...
Im pretty sure melmetal is supposed to come from our world.
I really wish unknowns had a cool gimick when u collected them all like gimmighoul
I also commonly hear a "Schooling" form like Wishiwashi might help them out a lot!
Meltan and Melmetal should be legendary at most.
I don't really see Genesect as a legend/mythical, it is an old pokemon brought back to life that was given a suit of armor. Unless the original form was also legendary, why does genesect have that distinction?
That's a good point actually; maybe the Pokemon under the armor IS a Legendary that we just haven't met yet...
paradox pokemon are just future and past forms like diglet and wiglet
Wait a minute; we're saying that Wigletts are time travelers now? That's one I hadn't heard yet...
Goldeen is my fav legendary
I love Zarude, but i understand the points made in the video and will let it slide. But Meltan? I adore that little buddy and will defend it until the end of time! (Despite possibly legitimate points haha)
Like I said, Meltan is a cool Pokemon that I like the concept for! But I would like it just as much if it were found in a cave somewhere instead of a mobile game.
Mi alway see legendary as a rarity statues. Where mystic were like cryptic.
U can add legendary to paradox but u can catch plenty in zeroarea
See if it's a rarity issue I don't understand why Meltan counts because it only evolves when there are LOTS of them, both in and out of the game...
@emperorcubone he definitely shouldn't be legendary.
Only reason I see it , because he can't be found in standard game.
Correction: Paradox Pokémon are not from a different time. They were more or less created by the time machine and cannot exist in our timeline, hence why they are paradoxes.
And yet throughout the entire game and DLC, it's explicitly made clear to be from time travel. The DLC literally has you timetravel to bring back a journal for the professor to build the machine. At this point, there's really no defending the baseless theory that Paradox pokés aren't time based. Legends Arceus literally set the way for the idea of time displaced pokémon and Kleavor/Scissor functionally are the same as looking at Paradox mon and their contemporary counterparts
Yeah, I foresee "Time Travel-or not" being the hot new debate for the next few years...
Yeah no. The Indigo Disk DLC clearly shows that the Paradox Pokémon time-travelled, by having the Professor of your game version literally travelling into the future, swapping Briar's book for their original copy of the Scarlet/Violet Book, and the player giving them the idea to name Winged King "Koraidon" (Scarlet) or Iron Serpent "Miraidon" (Violet).
It is time travel! That is canon!
@ChaoticTeen16 no, the professor time traveled, the Pokémon are paradoxes made by the machine. You do know that they're called Paradox pokémon because they can't exist in "our" past or "our" future.
@@ddtaylorificus it's not a baseless tehory when the term "PARADOX Pokémon" implies that they should not be able to exist.
I think Paradox Pokemon are coding as legendary for VGC reasons.
Thank you for actually using proper English grammar by referring to the noun form of Legendary as Legends! Likewise, they are Myths,, not Mythicals.
Number 1 best should be Bidoof...
Goldengo feels legendary to me. Similar to Melmetal.
You know, that's a good point! They're basically obtained in the same way, collecting excessive amounts the same thing to hugely buff the weak little one...
@emperorcubone steel (metal) too lol
Your number 1 best is one of some useless pokemon...
7:59 What.
Iirc Type Null and Silvaly aren't legendaries.
I think Arcanine is a very good legendary
Melmetal lower than Phione 🗑️
Zarude was supposed to be from Galar??? I guess I learn something new each day lol 😅
Right? What a ridiculous situation...
I love you man, but this video is awfull. Is this some kind of joke I'm missing? Is this video a parody?
17h ago
Firsto