Edelbrock Top End Kit Install Time-lapse, Startup, & REV!!
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2020
- Over the course of 1wk my friends and I install an Edelbrock Top End Kit on my 1981 C10 Pickup. We find aftermarket parts and surprises and show you what’s required to convert your flat tappet BBC into a rumbling hydraulic roller cam beast
Check out the latest Holley Sniper 2 EFI system here: holley-team.com/4629i3Q 
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Great job lads. She really sounds mean with that cam profile. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Motown.
this engine sound beautiful cant stop listening to it ..
Thank you! It runs great now that its been tuned :)
Without a doubt, im doing this to my 454...damn, such a beautiful cam sound. 🍿🍿🍿
you boys did a good job it sound great.
Yo, I put an Edelbrock top end on my 327 cu in mouse motor. I tell ya, this setup rocks! The motor runs so strong now. It really came alive when I took out my manual trans and installed a 700-R4 with a 2,800 lockup stall converter and a set of 4-10 gears.That little motor just screams! It comes off the line with amazing fortitude and determination! This setup works wonders. I was not able to buy the kit all at once, so a piece at a time had to do. Just the heads alone added over 40 HP. One thing for sure you all must do when it comes time to break in that flat tappet cam. Turn it in the crankcase as little as possible to set the valves. There are ways to do this in very few revolutions. Setup distributor timing and for heaven sakes don’t forget to add in some advance timing before you attempt a start. Then start and bring up rpm right away to 2500 and stay there for 30 minutes. The headers will turn red hot! I made the mistake of not putting in some advance. Wouldn’t start., got a friend to help. Made it worse. Kept changing timing as we cranked. Finally got a start, but too late. I drove 5 miles. Engine died. Pumped gas pedal and cranked, and cranked. Then there was ignition! BOOM! Both mufflers got shredded and it was heard for many miles. I pulled the distributor and the gear was ground away gone..the cam was destroyed. Lifters trashed. Took it all apart again and this time put in advance. Started right up. Today I really love this little engine. Just runs so strong and sweet for its size. 🤠🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🍿🍿🍿🍿.
Normally I really fucking hate people's background music, but you actually chose really nice easy to listen to Jazz. Love the video. Liked
Cool I''ll be installing the Edelbrock E-street top end on my 78 Nova soon.
Good content you just motivated to keep working on my bucket
Shortbedgameskreshfulll Official hell yea! Ive got some new content coming soon surrounding my T56 swap and some short throw shifter improvements
Nice work guys
Exactly what wanna do with my 454 top end kit with the Holley sniper
Very cool I want to do the same to my 81 is it reliable dependable that is what I want, to be able to jump in it and not have to worry if I’m gonna make it home. 😂
Love the time lapse.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching
awesome vid
I just got the Edelbroke RPM heads, Ive been saving for years, I already have everything else. Im just a girl all alone but I can do this, my car is worth it, a 1973 Pontiac Sports coupe LeMans Collande GTO, I cant believe how excited I am, Im so close to break in time.
gottagoat thats awesome! You got this. Any questions let me know
@@truckandroll989 Well since you ask, ha ha ha , in the specks that came with the heads, oh, some girls think diamonds are beautiful, no, these heads are beautiful, it says in the cam part to use a aftermarket\ re-curved distributor, really, its the only part where I said WTF is that.?
gottagoat so i think what they are getting that is to take advantage of the modifications you would want a “performance ignition tuneup”. Id say to be safe set your total ignition advance to 34 degrees (pretty standard). Idle ignition timing is a bit tougher since that depends more on your application. Maybe somewhere between 12-18 degrees. All a “retuned distributor” means is like a standard aftermarket distributor which usually brings in the total advance sooner
Hey! One year later: How did it turn out? Ur happy?
@@SpicyMcHaggis OMG, Im beyond happy. My engine is so awesome. I went ahead and got the newest Edelbroke carb and its everything they said it was, no miss, no stall its light as a feather,, its a dream every time I turn the key. Watch the videos on the Edelbroke website, they tell you about all the power packages. Anyone that can wrench can put these on, everything is calibrated already. Theres no guess work.The only thing I have to guess about now is if theres a cop around the corner. 90 and 100 are just to much fun, ha ha ha, HEAY, THANKS FOR ASKING
It’s funny how you have the same exact dent near the taillight as me
Sounds good nothing like a small block Chevy
Zachary Peralta thanks! Its pretty tame at idle but pretty loud when you get on it
Personally don't care much for that small diameter farm truck exhaust sound, but with that said loved everything else you guys did 👍
Yea i totally get it. Its all 3” now with an H pipe so it has plenty of volume. I want to try and get some better exhaust clips in my new videos. My newest upload is a roll race between my wife and I at a local track. You can here the trucks exhaust in that pretty well.
Sounds good.👌
Thanks! Ive got a dyno slot scheduled in a few weeks. Im excited to see what it makes
TruckandRoll I am interested in seeing the Dino pulls. You going to record and post?
@@streettruckin785 you bet! I'm going to try and get a few videos in between now and then I've got some additional work to do to get it ready for the dyno. I've already spoken with the tuner and have a date set so I can't wait to see what it makes. Probably a month out between now and the final dyno numbers
That'll make a good 250-260 HP!! Nice job on the stock rebuild!!!!
Lol youll be pleasantly surprised it made 435rwhp :)
@@truckandroll989 250 on top of the stock ~300 lines up pretty well with Edelbrock's claims. 435 to the wheels seems a bit low though - I would have expected mid to high 400s
@@jckf the big thing is they say 540hp (fywheel) using 10.5:1 CR. Im at 9:1 and about 510hp assuming 15% drivetrain loss. Seems about right
@@truckandroll989 Ah, I hadn't looked at your compression ratio, and calculated with 10% loss
What’s the part number for those head bolts?
Hello. Plan on doing this same kit very shortly with the efi and hyperspark. Do you by chance have a list of parts you would recommend that don’t come with the 2079 kit that I should get? Thanks
Sorry its been a while since I did this and I dont. Kits are pretty all inclusive. Just make sure you have a way to set cam endplay, make sure head gasket is correct for your model, etc. take your time im sure you will run into some hiccups but a lot of parts for these motors are readily available.
Nice job with the truck, its beautiful! Im doing one of these kits on my corvette this spring, just out of curiosity what motor is in that truck? I vaguely remember the early 80s c10s only came with a 305, im thinking they discontinued big blocks in those trucks around 1980
Field Industries USA it was originally a 6cyl 3spd manual truck. The previous owner swapped in a BBC and a 6spd. I replaced that 6spd with a built one and freshened up the motor so its not original. I believe you could get the big block in the larger c20s and c30s
@@truckandroll989 nice, did you get it on the dyno yet? im always curious to see how other peoples builds came out once theyre all said and done
Field Industries USA yes i did i have another video of it actually you should check out the results :)
you could keep getting the 454 in c20 or c30 trucks. My 83 c20 has factory BB with factory a/c. 3.73 rear.
GM made big blocks for trucks until 2010. Mark IV 454 was from 1970-1990, Mark V (Gen5) was 1990-1995, Mark VI (Gen6) was 1996-2000, Mark VII (Gen7) was 2001-2010.
If you would have worked 8 hour days, how many days would it have taken? I am just about to do the same with a friend so I'm curious. I watched the video at 1/2 speed so I could get a little better detail. Thanks great video.
Its honestly not too bad. If you have done a cam swap before its pretty standard. Tear down is probably 1 full day. My one big tip on the reinstallation is to wait to install the intake until after the valves are lashed. This will allow you to be sure the pushrod is seated in the lifter and it is easier to spin the pushrod in your fingers. Maybe like 3-4 days for the rest. Thats going slow, troubleshooting, getting it running smoothly, etc.
@@truckandroll989 Thanks.
do you need to drop the oil pan to r/r timing cover?
All you would have to do is remove the front oil pan bolts where the small "U" is and loosen the surrounding bolts. This will in-turn give you clearance to take the timing cover off.
Sounds and looks good. What package number is that?
Edelbrock part no.: 350-2079.
i see you redoing the top end of the engine how old is the bottom end of the engine how many miles on it
the doberman gang so the odometer has never really worked since i bought it with a trans swap done by the previous owner. Im not really sure. As far as i can tell the bottom end was rebuilt but nothing crazy. Its still low compression.
clean up the old intake or decide to run the new one?
I decided to run the new one. I confirmed with Edelbrock they are identical (they do not port match an intake specifically for this kit). I cleaned up the old
One and sold it
how did you like the holley hyper spark addition to the sniper?
I think in terms of tuning capability its a must. I was able to run/tun a modern timing curve. I highly recommend it especially if you have a big cam or look to get the vehicle dyno tuned
nice truck!! what position did you use on the timing chain gear with the 2261 camshaft?
Installed it straight up I believe. No advance or retard
Ok thank you because I built a 496 with this camshaft that goes in my 82 c10. Can we talk by messenger? i have something to show you i live in france
@@romainsoldi9403 message me on IG. My account is truckandroll989
Which kit was this? They make several hp versions. I love the sound but… not sure I’d want this is my daily driver. So I’m curious which one this is. What hp? What compression ratio? Oh and what mufflers ? Thank you!!
So many questions in one post. Let me do my best to answer and in return I ask that you subscribe and check out some more of my content to better answer your questions
1. This is Edelbrock P/N EDL-2079
2. Compression ratio is calculated to be somewhere around 9.5:1
3. I have a dyno video I will link below
4. There are two exhaust on this truck. Check out the video I will link below to compare 2.5” no crossover Magnaflow to 3” full mandrel bent, H pipe, Magnaflow
ruclips.net/video/T0Rtas8TvHA/видео.htmlsi=7Rzk1i0qSju6xZ73
435rwhp / 480 ft lb but not without some issues
ruclips.net/video/l4wxezB73UQ/видео.htmlsi=nSVSD86htxxwl_ps
What push rods did you use? Stock or .100 longer ?
The Edelbrock top end kit comes with the pushrods you need. Id still recommend marking your valve stem tips and turning the engine over by hand to see the mark/placement is correct
nice video. what is your rear tire/rim set up? size, back spacing and offset if you know?
Dale Bagwell so i recently changed to Mickey Thompsons. I still have the 10” Weld Prostars in the back. The backspacing is incorrect as they’re for later 454 SS pickups so i needed front and rear spacers to clear the brake calipers + lower control arms. Sorry im not sure on the backspacing numbers. The tire is 295 55 R15 Mickey Thompson ET street SS. I run that tire at all four corners but fronts are an 8” rim with 255 60 R15. For better picks check out my instagram #trucknroll989
Did you have to do any machine work on the heads before installing them?
Nope none. They are a direct bolt on.
@@truckandroll989 thank for the quick reply, just ordered my set
Hi I have a 427 BBc that I am getting ready to do the same as you did, what was the end HP and torq at the rear wheels after you were done? installing the new cam and heads? also was the a dual plane you used?
Best was 435hp & 480ft lb at the rear wheels. I used an Edelbrock Performer RPM air gap manifold
@@truckandroll989this was with the super sniper efi?
@@jon6537 yes those were final numbers with the Super Sniper 1250
what was your cam profile at, mine is 234 at .050" 110 center. .561 lift. I also have domed pistons and you had flat tops. currently have 063 semi open heads with the performer.
@@jon6537 it was the hydraulic roller cam that came with the top end kit. I forget off hand but you could look it up. The kit is still for sale on jegs part number 350-2079. Lift was like .640ish
So you left the original pistons in and it was fine everyone I talk to about me installing this kit they keep telling me I should at least install new piston and rings as well
So i would have certainly picked up more power with a fresh bottom end and higher compression but yea it was totally
Fine!
@@truckandroll989 great to know I’m not I’ve been told that my motor might of had a rebuild but I still don’t know till I tear it apart
Do you have a parts list of al the parts you have youst to build it to a rollercam
I dont. As I recall the top end kit was a roller cam, i had to buy roller lifters, and I got a timing cover/cam button. That is really all you need. The latter is to ensure the cam cant “walk” too far forward
@@truckandroll989 do you now whits part number the timing cover had /whit the cam button and how do you like the performance of the cam
@@jantienesstruyk3538 here is the timing cover part: www.summitracing.com/parts/CLO-9-231
I think it actually had a built in adjustable button. Cam worked fine. It came with the top end kit. That being said if i could have e done it again i would have probably tried a single plane intake and perhaps looked into other cam. Options but all in all i was happy.
I know this was years ago but im looking at this kit for my 489 stroker what roller rockers did you use?
I believe Scorpion. Ill be honest I dont think rockers make too much of a difference. Id go on summit and see what has the best reviews and go that route. What id be more concerned with is getting a quality lifter.
@@truckandroll989 the kit I’m looking at comes with cam and lifters and heads and intake just not rockers
@@jakegrassi6785 gotcha. Honestly Comp, Lunati, Scorpion, etc. are all good choices. Id go off of reviews. I watched an engine masters episode a while back and it seemed like most rocker arms tested about the same unless you are doing crazy high rpm stuff
@@truckandroll989 gotcha yea no it’s gonna be a 1800-6200 street motor so thank you man!
I have a 1989 5.7350 will this work for it?
I don’t think so. This is for a big block Chevy
How was the breaking in the cam ?
It was a hydraulic roller so no break in needed :)
What's the new dyno numbers?
Brown Hammer69 it hasn’t been dynod yet. Getting the 2.5” exhaust swapped for full mandrel bent 3” + crossover pipe, messing with some adjustable throttle tuning, and then getting it dynod in a week or so
Nice
Which heads did you installed
And which cam
This was all part of an Edlebrock top end package bought off of Jegs. Check out part number 350-2079.
Can i put this on a 5.2 magnum
Probably not. Look on Summit racing for top end kits specific to your car
What fuel injection kit did you use and how is it working now
CUDA519 i used the Holley Super Sniper 1250. Its working pretty well. Id give it 8.5:10. Check out some of my other videos ive got installation and a complete review of the system on this truck :)
TruckandRoll thank you I wondering if I would go LS or a top end kit and throttle body I truly don’t like the look of a LS in a 70 s truck
CUDA519 mine made comparable power to an NA LS. 435rwhp and 480ft lbs. obviously you could make more my compression is 9:1 at best so theres plenty of head room. I agree too many LSs its nice to mix it up
Whats your expected goal for horsepower in this build?
Honestly when i did it i didnt really have a specific goal in mind. It currently makes 435rwhp 480ft lbs. If i wanted to get serious i could add forced induction and easily get over the 500whp mark but its plenty quick for what it is
Thats awesome, love the truck and the build.
@@davidschauers thank you 🙏 ive got some more vids including the dyno. Damaged some things the first time out
Shit happens when ya build vehicles like this. Cant wait to see the videos.
Did you have to drain coolant from the engine block also?
Nope. When doing a top end kit you are pulling the rad so you get most of the coolant out. If you wanted you could do a flush afterwards until you just see clear water but I wouldnt overthink it. You do however want to make sure you get any coolant out of the bores which spilled in during removal of the heads. I also coat the walls with a bit of motor oil after vacuuming them out and wiping out any debris.
@@truckandroll989
Thanks, Yup I was overthinking it lol. I'm doing Edelbrock top end kit also. Will be my first time doing something like this.
@@DarthMayers they are pretty straightforward. If doing a roller cam conversion make sure you are able to set the thrust correctly on the cam. On my
C10 i had to cut out a center support by the radiator to allow the cam to slide in
@@truckandroll989
Mine is the regular flat tapped non roller cam. Carburetor non EFI. 78 Nova. by the way your C10 sounded cool! also one more question for your timing chain was your first piston at TDC?
@@DarthMayers yes you want to confirm #1 is at TDC. To be sure you can set a dial indicator with a magnetic base in your block and position the pointer to the #1 piston top and ensure when your timing marks say 0 degrees that you piston as in fact stopped
Moving upward.
How much was the kit ?
www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/2079/10002/-1#
What is the part number for the kit?
Dalton olson its Edelbrock 2079. Make sure to check your engine block year to ensure you get the correct head gaskets. They dont tell you explicitly but you will also need: rocker arms, tall valve covers, some type of cam thrust button or new timing cover. Otherwise it is all there.
Did you get it dyno tune
Karlo pulido I did. I wound up snapping my shortened but otherwise stock driveshaft so the tuning was cut a bit short. Made 434/480whp
Cam specs?
Its part number: 350-2261 (Edelbrock Rollin Thunder Series). Full specs can be found here…www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/350/2261/10002/-1
@@truckandroll989 what is your compression ratio?
@@trailerparkcryptoking5213 hard to say for sure. Somewhere around 9.5:1
@@truckandroll989 Clay Smith makes a HR that would give way more torque across the board. It closes the intake valve sooner which you need with 9.5:1 CR and it has 109 LSA . It’s good to 6000 rpm, buts it’s nasty from idle to 6000
@@trailerparkcryptoking5213 yea this cam came as part of a top end kit package. Definitely not the highest power/most aggressive cam but I got a killer deal on everything and a free intake too. It was a win all around. On a 109LSA that thing probably sounded mean.
Sadly soon all combustion cars and trucks including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-(
In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025
on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Car washs will be forbidden too because they are climate killers, now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. (BABVVEN & TEBBVEN & BEFVO laws)!
That is wild!!! I suspect the US is going to have a harder time just because of how spread apart we are geographically and our lack of public transit infrastructure. You are likely right though that maybe cities can start this legal action (NYC for example). However, California will be difficult given how heavily people rely on the interstates to get around. So many people wont be able to afford green alternatives. I wonder if they will start buying back ICE vehicles as a credit towards an EV purchase