[Update: Sold for $287,500] As you can imagine, the interior tour of the vehicle. No prizes for guessing roughly when I destroyed my primary microphone...
I was working on a gondola (because of the long legs) version of the "this is fine meme" where he has the_chieftians hair. I got to the russian part where he says "о, черт возьми, танк горит" and just stays in the tank because russian ergonomics. Then I accidentally deleted it all somehow.
My Dad drove one of these during WWII. He was with the 347th Recon of the Seventh Armored Division in Europe.. He once told about having to bail out and run when hit by enemy fire, blowing off a track. All the crew got out, but they took the breech and the machine guns so the 'bad guys' could not use their own guns on them as they ran for the hills.
A serious issue is that the vehicle does not have a dedicated escape hatch for the microphone. Although I did not find the exact numbers for the casualties, nor did I read the memoirs or any written material of any surviving microphone, possibly for a good reason.
From what I have understood, he has made this one (and the one on the ambulance recently) on his own without Wargaming. The music comes from Wargaming's editing team.
well this vid are not "sponsored" by WG so he can do whatever he want with it while the one that sponsored will have WG brand all over the place, on his case loud annoying music
I do really like the M5 Stewie. Didn't Brazil put 90mm guns in theirs and use them through the 90's. And Paraguay also had Stuarts in service until 2014! Great little workhorse
PMGF If It has "X" in it, it is a prototype. We ended up using the Cascavel(rattlesnake) for the 90mm gun, a national project. Never even heard about a M5 with a 90mm gun here. But while on Stuart brazilian prototypes, we also made one with rockets. Like, the big ones. Not that much people know about it.
Brazil used 100 X1 tanks in the cavalry regiments, deliveries completed 1978. The X1A1 did not enter service, but 50 of the X1A2s did, deliveries completed 1983.
According to a training film from the period, the air intake is cevered to prevent the good engine from drawing too much air in, I dont understand that as the engine will only draw in what the vacuum from the cylinders pulls
Yeah, that makes no sense. Presumably you misunderstood, or the guy writing the script had no idea. Or they figured nice simple concepts were more important than truth. There is no such thing as 'too much air' available to an engine, and all restrictions simply reduce the power output. If you do want to do that, you do it by adjusting the size of the throttle body or limiting the movement of the butterfly valve. The covers protect the filter from debris, water and damage. That is why automobiles come with their air filter inside a plastic box drawing air from behind the fender. Aftermarket open-style filters rob less power, but they are more vulnerable.
I would guess that you cover the bad engine intake to direct the air drawn into the engine compartment was directed out through the working radiator for cooling.
Might be for the vacuum lines for extras around the tank, with one engine down you lose half the vacuum, but I don’t know if those tanks had vacuum lines
The end gave me a chuckle. I used to think this tank was kind of useless and boring. But it seems like it was a generally well designed and handy little tank. Cute too.
If one engine is dead the other will suck cooling air through the dead fan opening instead of through the radiator and overheat. Hence the necessity of covering the opening.
He can't decide if he's pro or anti gun rights. He throws around the term "racist" an awful lot. The only thing he has going for him is that he's a better shot than Ian, which isn't really saying much.
I remember a comic book in the early 60s about a sargent and his Stewart tank. The ghost of Gen Stewart was his inspiration and he always seemed to win every tank on tank fight he was ever in. I didn't know anything about tanks at the time, and obviously neither did the authors because with only a 37mm gun you just can't blow up tank after tank with that puny gun. Not to mention he was always telling his gunner to be dead on when in fact the commander was also the gunner. Any way, after sitting in a Stewart once, I still find them a fascinating little tank.
nepete7: Oh? Okay right, he's also the loader, which means while he's got his head out the hatch and he's urging the gunner to be spot on, who's going the load the gun? Like I said, the comic book writers didn't know how this tank was actually operated.
Well, sure, but at least he isn’t talking to himself! ;~} I made a comment above noting that the original M3 light is officially a two-man turret. The British evaluation of the tank complained about the two man turret. Yet two memories written by commanders of the M3 in 8th Army describe fighting with their head out all the time, apparently letting the bow gunner serve as loader. “Take These Men” and “Brazen Chariots”, neither are comics.
nepete: "Brazen Chariots" I remember reading many years ago, if I'm recalling correctly it was about a royal tank unit in North Africa, and I remember thinking "I'm never going to visit a desert for more then one day"! As for the bow gunner, where would he have been? Did the commander stand on his shoulders? The one Stewart I was in was small, and even without any ammo or gear inside, there was barely any room for two crewmen let alone three!
Thank you for making this pair of videos. My father served in Stuart in WWII. He was the gun loader. I have a much better idea of what it must have been like for him. More cramped than I imagined. I'm going to share these two videos with my family. Cheers.
I've never made a comment before but I will say I've enjoyed watching all your different shows about tanks and different vehicles used in the World War II time frame and all that you've shown and I just wanted to say thank you for all the time energy and research you put into it it's very entertaining and informative thank you and I look forward to the next show.
As far as using the American 37-mm gun to knockout a German Tiger Tank; a U.S. 37-mm mounted in a Ford M8 Greyhound brought down a Tiger in the waning days of 'The Battle of the Bulge'. It did so by allowing the Tiger to pass by, then sneaking up behind it. It took only three rounds to bring the beast down, but contrary to what is said here, it did indeed happen! 👀
Honest I not surprised a herd of Stewarts M5 could knock out a single Tiger or a Panther . Several shots in their overly complex overlapping road wheel system or knock out a one of the tracks and then taking shots at the thin rear armour around the engine compartments when the tracks/road wheels were knocked out making the German tank immobile . I have read similar teamwork tactics being use by M4 Sherman crews that had gp 75mm gun knocking out single Tiger or panther tanks. It is doable but not the prefered method of knocking out a heavy german tanks .
@@cmdredstrakerofshado1159 Excellent points. Besides, the Light Tank M5A1 'Stewart is one of the most versatile, mobile and extremely tough American Tanks of WWII! The Marines sure got a lot of use out of Her in the Pacific Theater. Besides, it just looks so cool too! Take care and thanks for the reply, Comdr. Straker. (BTW., I am an American who lives in The Netherlands, did you know that the word 'Straker' means 'Tighter' in Nederlands/Dutch? Just a Free Fun Fact)
@@MrMenefrego1 No I did not know that about the name Straker thanks, the handle has to do with the fact Ed Straker is one of my favorite characters in any the Gerry/Sylvia Anderson series. Unfortunately my old handle Drake Is Six got nuked by RUclips for unspecified political heresys about 3 weeks before US november shit show elections. I started using fictional handles/avatars about 3 years ago ever since my companies social media policies changed even your private accounts on RUclips and Twitter , etc. BTW he forgot to mention since this was a USMC M5A1 used in the Pacific, was the 37mm Canister round that Fired about 122 steel shot effectively turn into a 37mm giant shotgun, which was a great way to ruin any banzai charge .
@@cmdredstrakerofshado1159 Additionally, utilizing that U.S. 37-mm canister round which, as you pointed-out, fired the steel shot effectively transformed it into a giant shotgun; that 37-mm canister round was also extremely effective for literally blowing-away the foliage which concealed many of the Japanese bunkers and strongpoints, thus causing them to be rather vulnerable now that everyone and his buddy with the flamethrower could now see them! Take care and Good Luck, as the next few days are going to be quite interesting, not to mention extremely historic in America. (Concerning your comment of: "my old handle Drake Is Six got nuked by RUclips for unspecified political heresys": I have a 'feeling' that RUclips as-well-as Twitter and the other Nazi-like social media companies will deeply regret their actions in the immediate days to come! This situation is far from over, nothing can stop what is coming their way!) *God Bless President Trump 45 & 46 and The United States FOR America!*
About the 3000 mi radius on the Stuart. From Normandy to Moscow, it's a little less than 2000 miles. That thing can go there and halfway back before needing major maintenance!
Ah, you see I did actually take that into account. the distance by plane would only be about 1600 miles. By modern roads, it'd be 1800 miles. Even during the war, there was vast road systems already, and plus tanks can cross fields, so giving a rounding estimate of 2000 would be reasonable. About the other points you made, the point about refueling would also be moot, because just bring a refueling truck along. Then the point about being assigned to a different sector wouldn't matter in the hypothetical, because during the war this wouldn't have happened anyways The reason for that is because of cutting across Germany, plus if you wanted to send stuff to Russia, just use ships.
+Samuel Fisher I think you are underestimating the amount of maneouver. Also that's 3000 miles on nice roads without anything untowards happening, like rubble on the road, poor roads, or people shooting at you. Still, better than the Medium D in the early 1930s, which would probably be down to only half the number of WHEELS it started with in under 300 miles.
Like I said, because this is a hypothetical, we don't have to worry about getting shot at (because they'd never do this during war time). Either way you'd be surprised with the road system that was in place at the time. This is when the first construction of the Autobahn went into place. The autobahn went from close to Antwerp, and went to where Lithuania is today. Getting from Normandy to Antwerp is relatively easy as well, because the French constructed cross country roads before the war. The only place where you'd have some difficulties is going through Russia, but you can use a rail road as a road. If you add up the distances that I covered, ~300 miles from Normandy to Antwerp. ~1000 miles from Antwerp to Lithuania, and ~600 miles from Lithuania to Moscow.
In theory the road and rail network was great. In reality there was a war on and significant portions of the faster roads had been blown up, or were full of the enemy. It was a bit hard to go direct.
There's also the fact that IRL the armor will deteriorate. You shoot something enough and it'll start to spall and eventually the shell can punch through the more brittle steel. Or, its also possible they got a shot into a weak section (this also depends on whether it was properly destroyed or just disabled like Tiger 131), or got a ricochet that pierced inward.
An M8 Greyhound took a Tiger II out from behind, it went past them so they followed it down a track until they got a chance to put a few rounds up its ass.
+The_Chieftan I have heard of this account and read a summary of it in a book (remember those) back in the 1980s. Not that I can remember WHICH book, and it came from my local library so I don't have it any longer. If it is the same incident it was probably 2nd Armoured based on the fact I was researching that unit at the time, and involved a lot of circling the Tiger faster than its turret could track, and several tanks taking pot shots. I can't remember what actually did for the Tiger in the end. Maybe it ran out of fuel :)
This goes for any kind of scope; telescope, microscope, etc: There are two lenses that you are really concerned with, one being the Focusing Lens (Or Ocular Lens), and the Objective Lens. There are usually going to be more lenses between them, but ignore them for now. The Focusing Lens, or Ocular Lens, (Eyepiece) is the lens you put your eye to. Its job is to focus the image on your retina. They can do a lot more, depending on the application, from further magnification, setting eye relief (how far your eye has to be to able to see the image clearly), etc. The Objective Lens, is the lens that is closest to what you are viewing. What matters for it, is size, really. A small Objective lens, will gather less light, which will, invariably, deliver a dimmer image. A large one, will provide a brighter image. At noon, it doesn't matter which you have really, as both will get more than enough light to function perfectly well. But as you get closer to dusk, or dawn, get cloud cover, or enter a built up, urban location, a large objective lens will give you more light to work with, where a small objective...could wind up too dim to use. With tanks, it becomes a balancing act between maintaining armour integrity, vs ...being able to see.
I agree with previous posters that the 'Oh bugger the tank's on fire!' should be a default test for all tanks reviewed. The practicalities of worst case scenario I think would add to the tankie's trust of their vehicle.
I'd agree with the sentiment..but the fact is hes risking life and limb on those..so I can see why he'd want to skip some. I dont have personal experience but tanks bite hard when they bite (rebounding hatch..or just conking your head or knee.. or mangled/amputated fingers... frankly he really OUGHT to have a helmet along for those tests but be probably decided it would look silly. Hes right it would but... silly and alive/not hospitilized beats the options.)
Another awesome video - these are all excellent and just keep getting better. The history and story of the tanks is my favorite part - really makes me appreciate what people have done before us to get us here. If I ever did get a WW2 era vehicle, the biggest tank I would opt for is this one for the reasons you describe. And great to see you came to our great state of IL at Rock Island - not too far from where we live. Thanks, keep up the great work and stay safe!
I think I've seen a good number of your VLOGS, but I was pleasantly surprised to see how effortless this small tank was. Automatic transmission? Easy to get out of? Logical in the way of where things were placed? I'm suitably impressed. In the great way of things... you'd think the Tiger/T-34/ etc might be a lot better, but surprisingly they are NOT. Great video.
Best outtake yet! A few inches of height apparently makes the difference. I'm 6'1" and found the gunner's position comfortable, even using the backup sight-- Tim's tank didn't have the primary periscopic sight.
My Grandpa drove one of these in WW2, he was 5'9 but it looks like it was probably still miserable for him at times. He had to bail out 3 times, lost 3 tanks to enemy fire and 2 commanders.
The Brazilians turned them into fairly modern AFVs by adding a 90mm main gun, laser rangefinder, etc. It was called the X1. There were variants proposed that extended the hull length, and added a 300hp diesel engine as well. They converted around 100 of them.
Born in 1954 I read the "Sgt. Rock" Comic book series of his adventures in the Pacific as a USMC hero. He was pictured in what was either a M3 Stuart or an M5. I would love for you to do an in depth video of when the M5 replaced the M3 in the Pacific war? As both had the .37 as the main gun, and the .30 machine gun, I would love to know how they differed in combat effectiveness? How much better was the M5 than the M3 Stuart? How do they differ when faced with Japanese armor? Which service branch used which model tank more, the Army or the USMC? As I became a US naval officer, and grew up as an Army brat I never had the chance to ask older Marines these questions.
According to reports from the crews of the M3 Stuarts on Luzon in '41 and '42 their rounds were bouncing off the Japanese tanks. Presumably the M6 37mm in this M5 Stuart was an upgrade :)
One of the things I would enjoy hearing/seeing if the information is available is how many of the vehicles you review are still in service somewhere. I recently found out the M5, identified as M3 in Felton's video are still in service in Paraguay, apparently originally provided to them by Brazil. Swedish Saab B17A dive bombers apparently operated in the Ethiopian Eritrean war between 1998 and 2000? Sort of interesting to see what is still being used somewhere.
Hey nick if I hit mega millions I would buy an old M3 stuart and restore it..GREAT WORK AS ALWAYS Erin go bragh..GOD BLESS the U.S.A ..Thank you for your service to this GREATEST of Nations
Any chance that you will show a Tiger (i know that the Challanger did one but you do it much better) or a Tiger 2? Also there are probably many people who would like to see a Panzer 3 or a Panzer 4 as well.
The Bradley's turret is vertically larger, but horizontally similar. At 5'8" it was not a bad fit for me. For big fellas it was pretty tight. I learned how to sleep sitting up in the turret with my arms over the ISU. It sucked, but sleep was sleep.
"In the European theatre....." I saw a pained expression on his face and thought he was going to say something along the lines of "you are going to happen across something that will turn your M5 into a mangled pile of burnt-out scrap before you get 3,000 miles on the clock" XD
@Jon Maier Yes. A nice project for an enthusiast and many such might prefer a vehicle with some work needed on it. It would have some impact on the sale price none the less.
Given that they spent "A while hounding it," I'd say it was at least a Tiger I; If my ballpark of 15 Stuarts for a company isn't off, it's the "weakest," German tank that a unit of that size couldn't take out in short order. Perhaps even better than a II for shots directly to the turret sides and rear. (Big if goes somewhere in that last sentence.) Or a God-like German crew, but depending on where you are, you'll be easier off looking for unicorns after 1942.
There was a confirmed kill by an M8 Greyhound taking down a King Tiger Tank in the Battle of the Bulge. Of course, this was done at the rear of the King Tiger and it took 3 shots at virtually point-blank range for that 37 mm gun to do the job. So if you have a swarm of Stuarts attacking at close-range, then yes, it's possible to kill that Tiger. German tank crews followed a rule that you can't leave your tank unless it's on fire. There is a report that infantry took out a Panther tank by using phosphorous grenades to ignite the fuel tanks.
Hung Nguyen An M8 Greyhound open-topped armored car firing point-blank into the aft armor of a Tiger II which resulted in a mobility kill. Why hasn't a movie ever been made of that? It should have been called: Balls On Wheels!
MrJedi5150 Talked to some WW2 vets from the Wermacht. It was a part of the training. Of course, there are those who panicked or those who ran out of gas.
@@HungNguyen-uw8ch or broke their transmission, or had mud-caked road wheels, or found any of the numerous other ways in which a german tank could de-activate itself. And then there is the story of a Tiger II commander who leaned over to yell something into his radioman´s ear, only to feel a gush of wind in his neck, as his turret had been smashed right off by a 152mm at precisely this moment, from a sveroboi no one had seen, at which time he decided it was time for him and his lads to vacate the premises in an urgent manner. No one got hurt, btw.
If your ever in the quad cities you should check out Rock Island Arsenal (not the auction house). They let civilians on the property but not in most of the buildings. There is plenty to see because they have a bunch of tanks, armored vehicles and artillery pieces out doors.
Oh Bugger the Tanks on Fire! You clearly had the better of it with this M-5A1 model of Stuart than the early M-3 were in you had to do your Octopus impression and come out feet first through the early split hinged hatch design. Also a lot less colorful language involved as well.
A 57mm in place of the 37mm would have worked. But the M5 really shined in the Pacific. My Uncle was a Marine 1940 to 1945 said having a tank around always made it a bit easier when it came to elimination of the enemy
Did anyone try to have the TC double as the gunner and have the second person be the loader? Sure, it's still double-duty for the TC; but the double-duty being done would involve the one person doing the two outwardly-focused jobs and can remain focused on their surroundings and targets whereas with a setup like this, the TC, when not being the TC, is rummaging around the vehicle. Plus, it would seem like it might reduce some friction if the TC, instead of spotting targets and trying to guide the gunner onto a target, could rough aim from the TC observation position and then switch over to the gunner's sight for fine-laying while knowing, visually, what he's looking for. Then, they can assess if they need to fire another round while somebody else is loading it.
One thing I find interesting about most Second World War tanks is how little attention was paid to ergonomics and habitability in their design. Mind you, I do realize that a war was raging and the designers of many military vehicles may not have had the time to consider the effect of ergonomics and habitability and adapt their designs accordingly. One the one hand, you don't want to give the crew too much space in an effort to minimize injuries that might be caused by the crew being thrown around while the tank is in motion. On the other, you need to allocate just enough space to permit comfortable operation so as to minimize fatigue.
Just think what that could do with a couple of 500 hp LS-3 engines with suitably modern transmissions. Take it to the strip and blow away the competition. ;-)
It's that tiny, and still has a full turret basket, full power traverse, radio, and gun stabiliser. The germans still had horses. What were they thinking?
I think it would be interesting to see what it would look like to have both the commander and gunner inside the turret. Don't know how he does it but Britishmuzzeloader does an excellent job of multiple images. Great job. Thanks.
You had to cover the dead Engine air intake so all the cooling air would go over the running engine so the carburetor would not boil the gas and vapor lock.
"The Bow-gunners seat is pretty comfortable!" -He said while it did look as if he had to break his neck to to fit in there! Also Gun Jesus and Tank Messiah Top 10 best anime crossovers.
Also with only one engine running you only had one fan so if both air intakes are open you're only drawing half the air through each radiator instead of all the air through each radiator when you have two fan's running.
Wow. I was getting claustrophobic just watching you in the asst driver's position. Don't know you you did it. Thanks for such an informative pair of videos.
A pack of Stuart’s hounding a tiger to death, definitely sounds like a wot thing also sounds more interesting than the tiger scene in fury where they all just drove in a neat little row right at tiger 131
uh if you have an engine that isn't running then yes you need to cover it. You don't want something to fall down the carb and then bounce around inside the cylinder and mar the sides.
Great video, I've always wanted to know more about this tank. By the way, I think your videos are a LOT better without that awful electric guitar song bed.
“Oh bugger, the tank is on fire!” That needs to be on a t shirt with the picture of you stuck in comet above it
In all seriousness, I would buy that shirt.
Certainly an easy way to spot a Chieftain fan around the world.
I was working on a gondola (because of the long legs) version of the "this is fine meme" where he has the_chieftians hair. I got to the russian part where he says "о, черт возьми, танк горит" and just stays in the tank because russian ergonomics. Then I accidentally deleted it all somehow.
I would print that shirt before he trademarks it.
i might buy just the text but, i don't want no fucken doods face on my clothing
My Dad drove one of these during WWII. He was with the 347th Recon of the Seventh Armored Division in Europe.. He once told about having to bail out and run when hit by enemy fire, blowing off a track. All the crew got out, but they took the breech and the machine guns so the 'bad guys' could not use their own guns on them as they ran for the hills.
Thank you for his service.
Teslas are garbage cars
Awesome 👍
I'm really impressed at how good that tank is designed for the crew.
A serious issue is that the vehicle does not have a dedicated escape hatch for the microphone. Although I did not find the exact numbers for the casualties, nor did I read the memoirs or any written material of any surviving microphone, possibly for a good reason.
AkosJaccik Sad really, all those stories lost to history.
Yeah microphones had the highest casualty rate of any tank position in wwII
Thank the microphones for their service 😉
The last time i was this early,
the Stuart was a king of Scotland.
YES!! No music again, love it!
From what I have understood, he has made this one (and the one on the ambulance recently) on his own without Wargaming. The music comes from Wargaming's editing team.
[INSIDE THE CHIEFTAIN’S HATCH MUSIC INTENSIFIES]
well this vid are not "sponsored" by WG so he can do whatever he want with it while the one that sponsored will have WG brand all over the place, on his case loud annoying music
TU DUD TU DUTUDUTUDUTUDUTT
Interesting that without Wargammings branding the editing and audio quality are poorer. Wonder if he’s no longer working with Wargamming anymore.
I would just love it if at some random point Gun Jesus would run across the background carrying a bunch of guns.
That would of been hilarious
Or knocked on the hatch and waved down at him from above
I pictured Ian unbolting and running off with something’s pintle MG
And in a Gun Jesus video the chieftain casually driving a tank across screen
😂
Chieftain is a great instructor. He is very comfortable in armor and the knowledge is shared with confidence
I do really like the M5 Stewie. Didn't Brazil put 90mm guns in theirs and use them through the 90's. And Paraguay also had Stuarts in service until 2014! Great little workhorse
PMGF 90mm on an M5... are you suuuure about that?
Look up the X1A and X1A2 Brazilian light tanks
PMGF If It has "X" in it, it is a prototype. We ended up using the Cascavel(rattlesnake) for the 90mm gun, a national project. Never even heard about a M5 with a 90mm gun here. But while on Stuart brazilian prototypes, we also made one with rockets. Like, the big ones. Not that much people know about it.
Brazil used 100 X1 tanks in the cavalry regiments, deliveries completed 1978. The X1A1 did not enter service, but 50 of the X1A2s did, deliveries completed 1983.
The norwegians modified their Chaffee's to carry 90 mm guns though.
You seemed to be able to vacate that driver's position much quicker than in other, larger tanks that you've covered. Great video.
All but the spring loaded hatch sherman yeah.
"Oh bugger the tank is on fire...................but I have to go back in due to my mic getting stuck!"
We need the Gun jesus/ The Cheiftan crossover
Marcedus the history and application of anti tank rifles and other man portable anti tank weapons like the PIAT or panzerfaust?
"The Gun Chieftain"???
The Chief Jesus
Could you morons just call him ian mccullum. Shit even i know it. Might not have spelled it right but i at least know his fucking name.
It just happened
we need a "oh bugger the tank is on fire" competition between Chieftain and Ian
Considering what we've seen Ian do in some match challenges, I imagine he'd be pretty speedy at it.
Who is Ian? Also, LINKS plz
Ian is the guy behind Forgotten Weapons, a youtube channel on old firearms. He sometimes talks about firearms for sale at Rock Island.
Oh that would be entertaining to see Gun Jesus do that
Bob Smith, you will become a new disciple upon checking Ian out.
ruclips.net/channel/UCrfKGpvbEQXcbe68dzXgJuA
According to a training film from the period, the air intake is cevered to prevent the good engine from drawing too much air in, I dont understand that as the engine will only draw in what the vacuum from the cylinders pulls
Yeah, that makes no sense. Presumably you misunderstood, or the guy writing the script had no idea. Or they figured nice simple concepts were more important than truth. There is no such thing as 'too much air' available to an engine, and all restrictions simply reduce the power output. If you do want to do that, you do it by adjusting the size of the throttle body or limiting the movement of the butterfly valve. The covers protect the filter from debris, water and damage. That is why automobiles come with their air filter inside a plastic box drawing air from behind the fender. Aftermarket open-style filters rob less power, but they are more vulnerable.
I would guess that you cover the bad engine intake to direct the air drawn into the engine compartment was directed out through the working radiator for cooling.
Might be for the vacuum lines for extras around the tank, with one engine down you lose half the vacuum, but I don’t know if those tanks had vacuum lines
Gun Jesus and Chieftain uploading videos at RIA on the same day? Coincidence? I think not.
Ian even gave a shout out in his last video.
that can't be difficult as Ian is uploading daily
Lemano
Yes but Ian mentioned him in his video
these guys should have more links, and RIA has a good PR team I think, they are nice people too!
Gun Jesus. I like that haha
I'm a simple man. I see a tall guy in a crowded tank. I upvote.
I would love to see a "oh bugger the tank is on fire" through a floor escape hatch one day!
Yea that would be something you do not see often.Though I am pretty sure it was there mainly for rollovers.
The end gave me a chuckle. I used to think this tank was kind of useless and boring. But it seems like it was a generally well designed and handy little tank. Cute too.
If one engine is dead the other will suck cooling air through the dead fan opening instead of through the radiator and overheat. Hence the necessity of covering the opening.
The video dropped as I was watching the video in which Gun Jesus mentions the Chieftain. Come on, guys, do the thing.
so long as Karl the Kuck isn't involved.
MrArgus11111
I hope Karl is in the video, just to trigger the idiots like yourself.
I don't particularly like Karl, but I don't mind him.
He can't decide if he's pro or anti gun rights. He throws around the term "racist" an awful lot. The only thing he has going for him is that he's a better shot than Ian, which isn't really saying much.
Karl the kuck? Just who is Karl?
I remember a comic book in the early 60s about a sargent and his Stewart tank. The ghost of Gen Stewart was his inspiration and he always seemed to win every tank on tank fight he was ever in. I didn't know anything about tanks at the time, and obviously neither did the authors because with only a 37mm gun you just can't blow up tank after tank with that puny gun. Not to mention he was always telling his gunner to be dead on when in fact the commander was also the gunner. Any way, after sitting in a Stewart once, I still find them a fascinating little tank.
Bullettube Yes, “The Haunted Tank.” I read them religiously. They were always blasting Tigers or shooting down ME-109’s.
Umm, no. The TC is also LOADER, gunner is a dedicated position.
nepete7: Oh? Okay right, he's also the loader, which means while he's got his head out the hatch and he's urging the gunner to be spot on, who's going the load the gun? Like I said, the comic book writers didn't know how this tank was actually operated.
Well, sure, but at least he isn’t talking to himself! ;~}
I made a comment above noting that the original M3 light is officially a two-man turret. The British evaluation of the tank complained about the two man turret. Yet two memories written by commanders of the M3 in 8th Army describe fighting with their head out all the time, apparently letting the bow gunner serve as loader. “Take These Men” and “Brazen Chariots”, neither are comics.
nepete: "Brazen Chariots" I remember reading many years ago, if I'm recalling correctly it was about a royal tank unit in North Africa, and I remember thinking "I'm never going to visit a desert for more then one day"! As for the bow gunner, where would he have been? Did the commander stand on his shoulders? The one Stewart I was in was small, and even without any ammo or gear inside, there was barely any room for two crewmen let alone three!
Thank you for making this pair of videos. My father served in Stuart in WWII. He was the gun loader. I have a much better idea of what it must have been like for him. More cramped than I imagined. I'm going to share these two videos with my family. Cheers.
I've never made a comment before but I will say I've enjoyed watching all your different shows about tanks and different vehicles used in the World War II time frame and all that you've shown and I just wanted to say thank you for all the time energy and research you put into it it's very entertaining and informative thank you and I look forward to the next show.
As far as using the American 37-mm gun to knockout a German Tiger Tank; a U.S. 37-mm mounted in a Ford M8 Greyhound brought down a Tiger in the waning days of 'The Battle of the Bulge'. It did so by allowing the Tiger to pass by, then sneaking up behind it. It took only three rounds to bring the beast down, but contrary to what is said here, it did indeed happen! 👀
Honest I not surprised a herd of Stewarts M5 could knock out a single Tiger or a Panther . Several shots in their overly complex overlapping road wheel system or knock out a one of the tracks and then taking shots at the thin rear armour around the engine compartments when the tracks/road wheels were knocked out making the German tank immobile . I have read similar teamwork tactics being use by M4 Sherman crews that had gp 75mm gun knocking out single Tiger or panther tanks. It is doable but not the prefered method of knocking out a heavy german tanks .
@@cmdredstrakerofshado1159 Excellent points. Besides, the Light Tank M5A1 'Stewart is one of the most versatile, mobile and extremely tough American Tanks of WWII! The Marines sure got a lot of use out of Her in the Pacific Theater. Besides, it just looks so cool too! Take care and thanks for the reply, Comdr. Straker. (BTW., I am an American who lives in The Netherlands, did you know that the word 'Straker' means 'Tighter' in Nederlands/Dutch? Just a Free Fun Fact)
@@MrMenefrego1 No I did not know that about the name Straker thanks, the handle has to do with the fact Ed Straker is one of my favorite characters in any the Gerry/Sylvia Anderson series. Unfortunately my old handle Drake Is Six got nuked by RUclips for unspecified political heresys about 3 weeks before US november shit show elections. I started using fictional handles/avatars about 3 years ago ever since my companies social media policies changed even your private accounts on RUclips and Twitter , etc. BTW he forgot to mention since this was a USMC M5A1 used in the Pacific, was the 37mm Canister round that Fired about 122 steel shot effectively turn into a 37mm giant shotgun, which was a great way to ruin any banzai charge .
@@cmdredstrakerofshado1159 Additionally, utilizing that U.S. 37-mm canister round which, as you pointed-out, fired the steel shot effectively transformed it into a giant shotgun; that 37-mm canister round was also extremely effective for literally blowing-away the foliage which concealed many of the Japanese bunkers and strongpoints, thus causing them to be rather vulnerable now that everyone and his buddy with the flamethrower could now see them! Take care and Good Luck, as the next few days are going to be quite interesting, not to mention extremely historic in America. (Concerning your comment of: "my old handle Drake Is Six got nuked by RUclips for unspecified political heresys": I have a 'feeling' that RUclips as-well-as Twitter and the other Nazi-like social media companies will deeply regret their actions in the immediate days to come! This situation is far from over, nothing can stop what is coming their way!) *God Bless President Trump 45 & 46 and The United States FOR America!*
Never have any doubt, your efforts are appreciated sir .
About the 3000 mi radius on the Stuart. From Normandy to Moscow, it's a little less than 2000 miles. That thing can go there and halfway back before needing major maintenance!
Yeah. Because tanks just drive directly forwards and never have to maneuver or go back for refuelling or shift to another sector of the front.
Ah, you see I did actually take that into account. the distance by plane would only be about 1600 miles. By modern roads, it'd be 1800 miles. Even during the war, there was vast road systems already, and plus tanks can cross fields, so giving a rounding estimate of 2000 would be reasonable.
About the other points you made, the point about refueling would also be moot, because just bring a refueling truck along. Then the point about being assigned to a different sector wouldn't matter in the hypothetical, because during the war this wouldn't have happened anyways The reason for that is because of cutting across Germany, plus if you wanted to send stuff to Russia, just use ships.
+Samuel Fisher I think you are underestimating the amount of maneouver. Also that's 3000 miles on nice roads without anything untowards happening, like rubble on the road, poor roads, or people shooting at you. Still, better than the Medium D in the early 1930s, which would probably be down to only half the number of WHEELS it started with in under 300 miles.
Like I said, because this is a hypothetical, we don't have to worry about getting shot at (because they'd never do this during war time). Either way you'd be surprised with the road system that was in place at the time. This is when the first construction of the Autobahn went into place. The autobahn went from close to Antwerp, and went to where Lithuania is today. Getting from Normandy to Antwerp is relatively easy as well, because the French constructed cross country roads before the war. The only place where you'd have some difficulties is going through Russia, but you can use a rail road as a road.
If you add up the distances that I covered, ~300 miles from Normandy to Antwerp. ~1000 miles from Antwerp to Lithuania, and ~600 miles from Lithuania to Moscow.
In theory the road and rail network was great. In reality there was a war on and significant portions of the faster roads had been blown up, or were full of the enemy. It was a bit hard to go direct.
Thanks for another really good video about a pretty good light tank.
Chieftain is very knowledgeable.
The " Golden Bee Bee" against the Tiger!! Outstanding. Thank you
Can we hear more about this story where a company of Stuarts 'hounded a tiger to death'?
I spent a half-hour looking on my hard drive for the file, I seem to have lost the bloody thing (if I ever scanned it). I'll keep an eye out for it.
The tiger does only have 60mm of armor right behind the tracks, so it is very plausible (Though US tankers didn't know that XD).
There's also the fact that IRL the armor will deteriorate. You shoot something enough and it'll start to spall and eventually the shell can punch through the more brittle steel. Or, its also possible they got a shot into a weak section (this also depends on whether it was properly destroyed or just disabled like Tiger 131), or got a ricochet that pierced inward.
An M8 Greyhound took a Tiger II out from behind, it went past them so they followed it down a track until they got a chance to put a few rounds up its ass.
+The_Chieftan I have heard of this account and read a summary of it in a book (remember those) back in the 1980s. Not that I can remember WHICH book, and it came from my local library so I don't have it any longer. If it is the same incident it was probably 2nd Armoured based on the fact I was researching that unit at the time, and involved a lot of circling the Tiger faster than its turret could track, and several tanks taking pot shots. I can't remember what actually did for the Tiger in the end. Maybe it ran out of fuel :)
I would love to see a video of yours explaining tank optical systems in detail, your average layman might not know what an objective lens does lol.
i sure dont :)
This goes for any kind of scope; telescope, microscope, etc:
There are two lenses that you are really concerned with, one being the Focusing Lens (Or Ocular Lens), and the Objective Lens. There are usually going to be more lenses between them, but ignore them for now.
The Focusing Lens, or Ocular Lens, (Eyepiece) is the lens you put your eye to. Its job is to focus the image on your retina. They can do a lot more, depending on the application, from further magnification, setting eye relief (how far your eye has to be to able to see the image clearly), etc.
The Objective Lens, is the lens that is closest to what you are viewing. What matters for it, is size, really. A small Objective lens, will gather less light, which will, invariably, deliver a dimmer image. A large one, will provide a brighter image. At noon, it doesn't matter which you have really, as both will get more than enough light to function perfectly well. But as you get closer to dusk, or dawn, get cloud cover, or enter a built up, urban location, a large objective lens will give you more light to work with, where a small objective...could wind up too dim to use. With tanks, it becomes a balancing act between maintaining armour integrity, vs ...being able to see.
Objective shows what is actually there.
Subjective shows what you reaaaaally wish to be there.
Ditto, if really like to know that a "unity sight" he keeps talking about is.
Nice description Goldmarble, thanks! :)
I agree with previous posters that the 'Oh bugger the tank's on fire!' should be a default test for all tanks reviewed. The practicalities of worst case scenario I think would add to the tankie's trust of their vehicle.
I'd agree with the sentiment..but the fact is hes risking life and limb on those..so I can see why he'd want to skip some. I dont have personal experience but tanks bite hard when they bite (rebounding hatch..or just conking your head or knee.. or mangled/amputated fingers... frankly he really OUGHT to have a helmet along for those tests but be probably decided it would look silly. Hes right it would but... silly and alive/not hospitilized beats the options.)
Another awesome video - these are all excellent and just keep getting better. The history and story of the tanks is my favorite part - really makes me appreciate what people have done before us to get us here. If I ever did get a WW2 era vehicle, the biggest tank I would opt for is this one for the reasons you describe. And great to see you came to our great state of IL at Rock Island - not too far from where we live. Thanks, keep up the great work and stay safe!
I like how the turret top doors basically make it an open top vehicle when open. That makes a lot of sense for a vehicle like this.
I rather have a copula with thick vision blocks all around.
I think I've seen a good number of your VLOGS, but I was pleasantly surprised to see how effortless this small tank was. Automatic transmission? Easy to get out of? Logical in the way of where things were placed? I'm suitably impressed. In the great way of things... you'd think the Tiger/T-34/ etc might be a lot better, but surprisingly they are NOT. Great video.
Best outtake yet!
A few inches of height apparently makes the difference. I'm 6'1" and found the gunner's position comfortable, even using the backup sight-- Tim's tank didn't have the primary periscopic sight.
Have you ever been in a Hetzer? There the issue isn't so much height as girth. One too many sausages and you'd be stuck in it forever.
No, I haven't had the opportunity, but I have felt a strong touch of claustrophobia watching some of Nick's struggles...
My Grandpa drove one of these in WW2, he was 5'9 but it looks like it was probably still miserable for him at times. He had to bail out 3 times, lost 3 tanks to enemy fire and 2 commanders.
Thank you for his service.
The Brazilians turned them into fairly modern AFVs by adding a 90mm main gun, laser rangefinder, etc. It was called the X1. There were variants proposed that extended the hull length, and added a 300hp diesel engine as well. They converted around 100 of them.
Tow starting at 4mph is a mind bending concept with the Hydramatic transmission
Automatics used to have a rear pump to facilitate bump starting.
Born in 1954 I read the "Sgt. Rock" Comic book series of his adventures in the Pacific as a USMC hero. He was pictured in what was either a M3 Stuart or an M5. I would love for you to do an in depth video of when the M5 replaced the M3 in the Pacific war? As both had the .37 as the main gun, and the .30 machine gun, I would love to know how they differed in combat effectiveness? How much better was the M5 than the M3 Stuart? How do they differ when faced with Japanese armor? Which service branch used which model tank more, the Army or the USMC? As I became a US naval officer, and grew up as an Army brat I never had the chance to ask older Marines these questions.
Dang, I live 15 miles north of the arsenal. I wish I knew, an autograph would have been nice.
I love your series, please keep it up.
According to reports from the crews of the M3 Stuarts on Luzon in '41 and '42 their rounds were bouncing off the Japanese tanks. Presumably the M6 37mm in this M5 Stuart was an upgrade :)
Obviously not the Ha-Go.
Wow a search light, with some added armor, this thing seems to be a decent Police patrol car in Detroit.
Only if allowed to use the 37mm with cannister, and the machine gun with tracer and incendiary.
Well developed little tank with an excellent drivetrain.
You should do a collaboration with Ian McCollum, of Forgotten Weapons. My two favorite RUclips channels.
They probably kept forcing the Tiger to move until the transmission broke.
You had me at “twin Cadillac V8”
One of the things I would enjoy hearing/seeing if the information is available is how many of the vehicles you review are still in service somewhere. I recently found out the M5, identified as M3 in Felton's video are still in service in Paraguay, apparently originally provided to them by Brazil. Swedish Saab B17A dive bombers apparently operated in the Ethiopian Eritrean war between 1998 and 2000? Sort of interesting to see what is still being used somewhere.
Hey nick if I hit mega millions I would buy an old M3 stuart and restore it..GREAT WORK AS ALWAYS Erin go bragh..GOD BLESS the U.S.A ..Thank you for your service to this GREATEST of Nations
Any chance that you will show a Tiger (i know that the Challanger did one but you do it much better) or a Tiger 2? Also there are probably many people who would like to see a Panzer 3 or a Panzer 4 as well.
All of the above!!!
The Bradley's turret is vertically larger, but horizontally similar. At 5'8" it was not a bad fit for me. For big fellas it was pretty tight. I learned how to sleep sitting up in the turret with my arms over the ISU. It sucked, but sleep was sleep.
It can get pretty cramped. I believe the LAV and Bradley turret, at least 25 years ago, are quite similar.
The reason they use 175 pounds as a track tension weight, is because that was the weight of an average GI. It states this in halftrack manuals
Oh god the little windshield with an itty bitty wiper on the tiny tank is cute
Hounding a Tiger to death. I bet that was one extremely irritated tiger. *Destroyed by 'M5 Stuart'*. . . .
Platoon of goldspammers!
Malevolent Kiwi Wish I could find the article/story on it.
Sounds like an excellent story for a Lindybeige episode.
Tankdestryer1 I would love it if he threw the document up online.
Mark Fryer he would only do a video on it if they were British stuarts
Tank is on fire test! Yes! Also there's a Grayhound there!
Keep the bloopers in. Just a little extra humor is always good.
Enjoyable as usual . Like the outtakes also. We know it’s not as smooth to produce as it looks.
"Oh Bugger, the tank is on fire!" should be a compulsory part of every single Chieftain's hatch episode tbqh.
"In the European theatre....."
I saw a pained expression on his face and thought he was going to say something along the lines of "you are going to happen across something that will turn your M5 into a mangled pile of burnt-out scrap before you get 3,000 miles on the clock"
XD
I did too. I believe he was thinking it LOL!
An entire company of Stuarts hounding a Tiger to death?? C'mon, you can't leave us at that! I wanna know what the hell happened xD
Erik Bergström ikr that deserves a full play by play in storytime fashion.
For small people like 5 foot 5 and under.
Like me. I loved being in a tank.
Easy Eight I’m 6’ 6”. I also loved not walking.
I'm wondering if the auction house thanked you for pointing out that the suspension was broken plus a couple of other things.
@Jon Maier Yes. A nice project for an enthusiast and many such might prefer a vehicle with some work needed on it. It would have some impact on the sale price none the less.
No cameo from Jesus? Lol
correction. gun jesus
the silent farmer I stand corrected please forgive me
forgiveness is granted
According to Ian in the comments on his vid from a day or two ago they weren't there at the same time.
Corwin Hyatt I didn't see that. Anyways did see this tank today on Fw and then this 2nd part shortly after. Two excellent videos back to back. :-D
We have one in our town square with the engine removed when I was younger a friend and I crawled in there.
Was that Tiger a confirmed Tiger or was it another case of every German tank being called a Tiger?
Given that they spent "A while hounding it," I'd say it was at least a Tiger I; If my ballpark of 15 Stuarts for a company isn't off, it's the "weakest," German tank that a unit of that size couldn't take out in short order. Perhaps even better than a II for shots directly to the turret sides and rear.
(Big if goes somewhere in that last sentence.)
Or a God-like German crew, but depending on where you are, you'll be easier off looking for unicorns after 1942.
There was a confirmed kill by an M8 Greyhound taking down a King Tiger Tank in the Battle of the Bulge. Of course, this was done at the rear of the King Tiger and it took 3 shots at virtually point-blank range for that 37 mm gun to do the job. So if you have a swarm of Stuarts attacking at close-range, then yes, it's possible to kill that Tiger.
German tank crews followed a rule that you can't leave your tank unless it's on fire. There is a report that infantry took out a Panther tank by using phosphorous grenades to ignite the fuel tanks.
Hung Nguyen An M8 Greyhound open-topped armored car firing point-blank into the aft armor of a Tiger II which resulted in a mobility kill. Why hasn't a movie ever been made of that? It should have been called: Balls On Wheels!
MrJedi5150 Talked to some WW2 vets from the Wermacht. It was a part of the training. Of course, there are those who panicked or those who ran out of gas.
@@HungNguyen-uw8ch or broke their transmission, or had mud-caked road wheels, or found any of the numerous other ways in which a german tank could de-activate itself. And then there is the story of a Tiger II commander who leaned over to yell something into his radioman´s ear, only to feel a gush of wind in his neck, as his turret had been smashed right off by a 152mm at precisely this moment, from a sveroboi no one had seen, at which time he decided it was time for him and his lads to vacate the premises in an urgent manner. No one got hurt, btw.
I squashed into that driver's position one time at an outdoor military show, it was Rough, haha. I'm 5 10, 220,so it took some doing
Thanks for a great video. One of my favorite tanks I recently built a scale model of one.
I like the bloopers. I wish he would show more bloopers
Did he see ian?
If your ever in the quad cities you should check out Rock Island Arsenal (not the auction house). They let civilians on the property but not in most of the buildings. There is plenty to see because they have a bunch of tanks, armored vehicles and artillery pieces out doors.
In his latest video, Ian discussed that they would be working together to promote items at the auction house. They are moving into vehicles.
They had 2 of these tank in the Rockford Reenactment one was mounted with the M2 Browning and there was a an M22 with them
Oh Bugger the Tanks on Fire! You clearly had the better of it with this M-5A1 model of Stuart than the early M-3 were in you had to do your Octopus impression and come out feet first through the early split hinged hatch design. Also a lot less colorful language involved as well.
A 57mm in place of the 37mm would have worked. But the M5 really shined in the Pacific. My Uncle was a Marine 1940 to 1945 said having a tank around always made it a bit easier when it came to elimination of the enemy
Did anyone try to have the TC double as the gunner and have the second person be the loader? Sure, it's still double-duty for the TC; but the double-duty being done would involve the one person doing the two outwardly-focused jobs and can remain focused on their surroundings and targets whereas with a setup like this, the TC, when not being the TC, is rummaging around the vehicle.
Plus, it would seem like it might reduce some friction if the TC, instead of spotting targets and trying to guide the gunner onto a target, could rough aim from the TC observation position and then switch over to the gunner's sight for fine-laying while knowing, visually, what he's looking for. Then, they can assess if they need to fire another round while somebody else is loading it.
One thing I find interesting about most Second World War tanks is how little attention was paid to ergonomics and habitability in their design. Mind you, I do realize that a war was raging and the designers of many military vehicles may not have had the time to consider the effect of ergonomics and habitability and adapt their designs accordingly.
One the one hand, you don't want to give the crew too much space in an effort to minimize injuries that might be caused by the crew being thrown around while the tank is in motion. On the other, you need to allocate just enough space to permit comfortable operation so as to minimize fatigue.
Very glad that RIA is actively supporting RUclipsrs
Fantastic, no annoying music!!
Question for the chief: Was the Stuart or other American light tanks, such as the Chafee, really worth having during WWII?
Just think what that could do with a couple of 500 hp LS-3 engines with suitably modern transmissions. Take it to the strip and blow away the competition. ;-)
It's that tiny, and still has a full turret basket, full power traverse, radio, and gun stabiliser.
The germans still had horses. What were they thinking?
I think it would be interesting to see what it would look like to have both the commander and gunner inside the turret. Don't know how he does it but Britishmuzzeloader does an excellent job of multiple images. Great job. Thanks.
You had to cover the dead Engine air intake so all the cooling air would go over the running engine so the carburetor would not boil the gas and vapor lock.
I’m hoping for Chieftain and Jingles video sometime. I’d like to see maybe a museum ship tour or something informal over a pint.
Please no! Jingles is so self absorbed I find him totally infuriating!
$287,000 is a lot more than I would have expected for an old light tank.
They dont make em any more!!!
Moran: "What? I have to load the damn thing too!"
that was probably one of the smoothest tank-on-fire
Great video
I love the " bugger the tank is on fire" bit.
I think you'll find fire drills say not to take any unnecessary belongings....
"The Bow-gunners seat is pretty comfortable!" -He said while it did look as if he had to break his neck to to fit in there!
Also
Gun Jesus and Tank Messiah Top 10 best anime crossovers.
Also with only one engine running you only had one fan so if both air intakes are open you're only drawing half the air through each radiator instead of all the air through each radiator when you have two fan's running.
Wow. I was getting claustrophobic just watching you in the asst driver's position. Don't know you you did it. Thanks for such an informative pair of videos.
80 m5a1 where used by the portuguese army, they where in service until 1984
Gun Jesus and the Chieftain dropping videos from RIA on the same day.
I sure hope this is alluding to a joint video of pure awesomeness soon.
I've seen one of these somewhat amusingly fail to get up a moderately inclined wet grassy bank on standard tracks at a display.
A pack of Stuart’s hounding a tiger to death, definitely sounds like a wot thing also sounds more interesting than the tiger scene in fury where they all just drove in a neat little row right at tiger 131
I seem to remember reading the British ended up taking the turrets off the M5's and using them as scouts.
love that you get the chance to review this awesome tanks and...cars ! :D
"Hip firing the 37"
Ngl that would be an amazing action scene
An entire company of Stuarts, generally a Cavalry regiment ACG, 15 tanks 5 per plt.
uh if you have an engine that isn't running then yes you need to cover it. You don't want something to fall down the carb and then bounce around inside the cylinder and mar the sides.
Great video, I've always wanted to know more about this tank. By the way, I think your videos are a LOT better without that awful electric guitar song bed.
Great video!
Great outtakes and humor!!!!