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Season 2 of 3 Body Problem hasn't been announced and doesn't have a release date, but it looks like the show will likely get renewed. This video looks at the biggest questions the Netflix series left us with and what we think might happen in the second season.
In the 3 Body Problem, a young woman in China makes a fateful decision that alerts an alien race in search of a new planet to the location of Earth. Ye Wenjie (Rosalind Chao and Zine Tseng) welcomes the San-Ti because she believes humans have lost the ability to save themselves. She joins forces with Mike Evans (Jonathan Pryce) and recruits others through an immersive video game. Years later scientists started committing suicide after the laws of physics started to break down and a group of friends found themselves caught up in the mystery.
Thomas Wade (Liam Cunningham) and Da Shi (Benedict Wong) conduct an investigation and discover the coming invasion. They recruit members of the Oxford Five in an effort to save humanity in the 400 years it will take for the San-Ti to reach our system.
Based on the bestselling and critically acclaimed novels by Chinese author Liu Cixin, the mystery thriller series from Game of Thrones creators David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, and Alexander Woo (True Blood), explores humanity’s response to its gravest threat.
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Benioff, Weiss and Woo all serve as executive producers; 3 Body Problem stars Hong as Jin Cheng, Eiza González as Auggie Salazar, Adepo as Saul Durand, Sharp as Will Downing, Bradley as Jack Rooney and Benedict Wong as intelligence officer Da Shi. The series also features Saamer Usmani as Raj Varma; Liam Cunningham as Thomas Wade; Rosalind Chao and Zine Tseng as Ye Wenjie; Jonathan Pryce and Ben Schnetzer as Mike Evans; Marlo Kelly as Tatiana; Sea Shimooka as Sophon and Eve Ridley as Follower.
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The story begins in 1960s China when a young woman makes a fateful decision that reverberates across space and time into the present day. When the laws of nature inexplicably unravel, a tight-knit group of brilliant scientists must join forces with an unflinching detective to stop humanity’s greatest threat. 3 Body Problem is an epic story that redefines sci-fi drama with its layered mysteries and story of human connection.
She basically told Saul that the only way to communicate possible plans is to do it through allegories or jokes.
It makes it much harder for The Santi to work out what the hell you're talking about.
Though they did at least know that Ye was passing on information which might be harmful to them.
@@alanpennie She was smart enough to have a winning plan, but the only thing she could pass down before dying was how to share the information.
She literally told him the plan in the joke
@@spaaaaace8952she told him the plan in the joke.
@@robak2250That's what he said...
12:25 I think the San Ti’s likening humans to bugs came entirely from Mike Evans’ description of bugs as insignificant and easily destroyed. They realized the comparison would frighten and demoralize humans.
I picked up on that as well. I thought that was a nice little touch.
it was certainly part of it
The nice little touch is that “Root out the bugs!” is the first line of dialogue in the whole series, from the Chinese Revolution demonstration scene!
The real nice touch is always in the comments
Exactly that, my friend, it was clearly presented in the show.
Once again Peter’s dulcet tones explaining and theorising my new favourite show. It’s a long time till Silo 2 and Foundation 3 😁
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Bless us with The Expanse S7 too.
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Correction, Pete's.
@Plutodeli I'm also hoping for another season of The Expanse 😢
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I’ve not read the books and I couldn’t get into other recent Sci fi shows but this one has blown me away. The cast are great, (well 98%) and the story idea is original and taking its time which I appreciate. The build up is exciting. You made me nervous about season 2 though. I hope Netflix stick with it because it’s a quality piece of work. My biggest fear is it doing a GoT and getting progressively worse!
It didn't take its time at all. They did the first book in like 6 episodes🤣
@@DTTaTa like I said, I’ve not read the books. But 6 hrs of tv for the one book isn’t that fast in comparison to most shows. If this is a books versus tv adaptations discussion then count me out.
@@hawsrulebegin7768 Trust me. They definitley rushed. I think they just wanted to get to second book to secure second season
My feeling on the GoT thing is that the showrunners have proven they can adapt a story already written - GoT was good until they ran out of book material and had to write it themselves. This story is already finished, as I understand it (I also haven't read the books) so I'm a little less concerned.
I have read the books and believe me book 1 is mostly setup, books 2 & 3 is where the story really gets heavy. Also agree about D&D. GOT was amazing in its early seasons when they had the books to work with, there is a reason the show became such a phenomenon. Three Body is a complete story so they won’t run out if material half way through like with GOT.
Cixin Liu was pressured by the publisher to let book 4 be made, and it demotivated him from writing more 3BP books
Is that why Redemption of Time exists and why another author wrote it?
(Bao Shu)
If true that is fascinating! I'm not sure if you read Redemption of Time but its insights and add-ins to Liu original story arc really reshaped my overall impression of the story. It would be sad if he had ideas that never came to light. Although considering how totally ending Death's End was, I'd be surprised to learn that Liu had more 3BP books in him.
Saul is the one that pointed out that the universe did not blink for the satellite telescopes like the Hubble.
Good catch, because what is blink is in the sky/atmosphere which is where's Sophon.
@@AlFirous So make a moon base and do research outside the sphere of the Sophons?
@@25jessieg nothing is outside the sphere of the Sophons, Jin talked about it. The Sophon can travel back and forth from the Earth and the moon with relative ease
@@benjones862 yes it takes them only 3 seconds in between moon and earth
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Netflix already announced that the second season has been approved
Really? ❤🎉
@@golfjuyiNot yet
Maybe you can provide the origin of this content?
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while imperfect, i thought the show did a great job of capturing the essence of this story, which is one of my all-time favorites. two questions that have nagged me from the books as well as the show:
1) if the San-Ti are so advanced, why is earth the only planet they are willing to move to? aren't there many earth-like planets they could inhabit without having to fight the species that currently reside there?
2) i know the sophons only arrived at earth a couple of months before they were discovered by all of humanity, but how is it possible that in all the time that ye and evans were communicating with the San-Ti over the prior decades, as well as their complete observation of everything happening on earth by the sohpons, the San-Ti never figured out that humans can lie until evans read 'little red riding hood' to them?
my theory is that santi can also lie. Because they belive in science and in science you belive an theory to be true untill proven false. so the theory that is false is a lie that they believe in.
This may be because they have to reach a general censes of a hive mind befor communicatin making it approved by everyone so more likely to be true and not a lie. but then the pacifist santi is the odd one out aagain.
1) The san-ti are advanced, but do not possess faster than light travel or even light speed travel for large objects (spacecraft); they can only achieve a small % of light speed for their ships (in the first parts of the story at least). This is why earth is the obvious choice, it is only 4 light years away from Trisolaris. Other habitable worlds are simply too far away.
2) The sophons could be accelerated to light speed easily because of their miniscule mass, humans can even achieve light speed with particles of that size. Evans was communicating with the san-ti over the preceding decades, but not in a conversational manner, it would take 4 years for his messages to reach the san-ti, and 4 years for him to receive a response. The arrival of the sophons meant that real time communication could finally take place, and allowed the san-ti to discover the concept of lying through casual conversation with Evans. Lying as a concept simply didnt exist to the San-ti, so even if their sophons had observed it taking place before the conversation with Evans, it may not have been given any significance or been understood by the San-ti.
@@User-gx3sr 1) everything you stated is true. But it also begs the question, why didn't the san-ti identify earth's star system as a potential new home star system prior to any communication taking place between them and ye wenjei? IRL human scientists are able to identify habitable planets in star systems several light years away. If the san-ti are several decades or even century+ ahead of irl humans in terms of technology, they would easily identify earth as a habitable planet (or mars for that matter after a bit of terraforming) especially given its within the closest star system to their own star system. This would have happened regardless if humanity contacted them or not, because the san-ti are desperately searching for a new home anyway and our star system is easily candidate #1 from their perspective...
@@mambaASI great point that I hadn’t considered, I don’t have an answer for that. Perhaps the answer lies somewhere related to the aliens unstable star system, or maybe the aliens would have come to Sol regardless of it being inhabited or not, as it was their only option due to distance, communication with Ye simply was to assist them with preventing human technological progress, which if left unchecked would have been fatal to the San-Ti. Point being that maybe they did identify earth as habitable, but only now do they have the means to escape to it.
I know it's sacrilege to suggest a show was better than the original written material, but to me the teleplay choices by show writers, casting and acting, and overall production value of the show were more immediately entertaining than the reading experience. I read and loved the novels, but in truth I loved "having read them" more than the actual "reading of them". The story was incredible, but the prose was often tedious and challenging. Now that Seasons 2 and 3 are green-lighted I'm excited to see how the show writers progress.
I'm in exactly that situation. I had given up on book 1 about 80% through it. But this video and the other one have given me the drive to try and plough through the seriously badly written english translation. It probably sounds much better in Mandarin.
I hope one day we get to hear Peter talk about Amos Burton again.
me too
The whole "hibernation" part with Wade's character completely reminded me of Silo (more specifically the second book in the series, Shift). Couldn't help drawing similarities between Therman and Wade characters. I really hope Netflix does renew 3BP for a second season.
What baffles me is that how Santis seem to be able to control any electronics, eg, cars, billboards, and yet Wade and Saul would still travel by air…
Sophons can present themselves in other dimensions which allows them to appear as anything and in whatever size they want and can transfer data but because in 3-rd dimension they are only size of the proton they can interact directly with things on atomic level. Can't be everywhere at once and they are not omnipotent. At least thats how i understand it. Could be bullshit.
Yeah and in the end, San ti took control of the plane and I was like what a surprise 😅
I also think it's interesting as well. They wanted Saul dead but yet he was able to fly from UK TO USA and Back safely wth
Its a plothole in the show only. Books do a great job in explaining what sophons can do which doesnt allow any plot errors in story. Sophons are only able to interfere with particle accelerators (not all electronic devices like on the show)create visual illusions (like countdowns), communicate with ETO and spy on earth on all levels. It is also implied that Trisolarians send even more sophons over time. The series portray sophons as a bigger threat than they already are I dont know how they will continue in season 2 without creating more plotholes. Because they can basically sabotage hibernation units to kill all wallfacers and other important people.
@@batuhanaltun6375 after reading your comment I think that makes more senses. If the sophons can interfere ALL electronic devices like in the series then I guess then humanity is really f.cked
Wade is written like of you asked an introvert to imagine what an extreme extrovert acts like despite never meeting one. So I hope he lives just to annoy the aliens
I'm sure he's good for season 2.
I imagine Clarence is too.
I respect how the show has appeared to solve the problem of how to have a continuous cast of characters that can appear in all three seasons. We will see if the their solution ultimately succeeds in terms of a popular tv science series - but that is only in terms of season 2 and 3.
Plot twist: There is no San-Ti, only a technologically advanced AI
It will be interesting to see how they handle future seasons ( if they get them ). Book 1 is just mostly set up, all the real action takes place in books 2 & 3.
Netflix was the last OTT service I’d want for a show like this, based on their notorious habit of cancelling shows after 1 season. Ratings be damned. The books are great, I think they did a pretty good job of adapting to the screen. Can’t wait to see some of what could be some visually amazing storylines.
As much as I hope that Netflix won't cancel the show, I'll
be the first to admit that they don't have the best record with new shows.
That being said, I've read all 3 books and if they somehow do a S2 & S3, that will be insane!
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Just hope that they change a bit of the story and DELETE Cheng Xin from the story or change her character. Idk why, but she infuriates me with her dumbass decision in the 3rd book.
@@josephrusalen5621when she doesnt press the button, right?
Indeed. Especially considering boom 1 is mostly setup, books 2 & 3 is where the story really gets crazy. Would be a real shame to miss out on all the best stuff.
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I am really looking forward to the adaptation of the Droplets, the 2 fleets that escape the Droplets, the Dimension Strike and I’m sure there is more I’m missing!!
The casting was super woke and that could highly impact ratings. Look at modern marvel / Disney movies they all seem to flop. I thought I was watching the Captain Planet kids grown up. I want to see the Tencent book 2 more than Netflix.
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Only question I got for season 2 is how long is it going to take to come out?
Perhaps a really silly beginner question but how do the scientists know where the san ti are in space to be able to calculate where to send Will’s brain? Was that mentioned?
Scientists in real life (and in the fictional universe) already have known the exact location of the star-system that the San-Ti are from for decades before they hear from them. They just only found out that there was actually life there after hearing that transmission back in the 60s. It's the closest star system to earth.
While I can't recall top of my head how they explained it in the show, in the book it's explained as this - the Trisolarans will take care of it. They knew of the launch (via sophon surveillance) and have the ability to collect it rather easily. Just launch in that general direction.
@@DanekiI wouldn't agree. Throwing something in the general direction into space to a location 4 light years away is a sure way to be off by a couple light years when the probe is set to arrive. The earth know the exact location of the Santi solar system and the Santi fleet obviously used the straight and shortest path between the two systems to travel the distance.
@@basspuppy133 while this does make sense, it really shoulda been explained in the show at some point. Literally a 1 minute explanation, based on how long it takes to send/receive radio waves between earth and the san-ti, and deducing that only one star system known to man could be the other end of this communication pathway.
One thing I don't understand is why the san ti are still so obsessed with particle accelerators; or if they're not, why Jin is assuming that. It made sense initially when the sophons were unknown because it caused science itself to degrade (defunding and shutting down institutions). Now that factor is gone, and experiment results that do not align with reality will likely be tossed, and resources reallocated to practical planetary defense research. Screwing with infrastructure, energy, destabilizing governments would stunt humanity a lot more than losing theoretical physics.
Unless they want to prevent humans from learning how to unfold a proton.
There's a common view among physicists that science is either physics or stamp collecting.
Maybe that's the Santi view.
Most likely, the san-ti understand, based on their own civilization's scientific advancement, that the more threatening scienctific advancements will emerge (directly or indirectly) from the field of particle physics. Hence why the san-ti are really focused on disrupting that science, and will dedicate more resources to that end. Also targetting other scientific work (for example auggie's nano fiber tech) that may prove useful for the humans in the future. Basically everything else the humans do is a non-threat to the san-ti is how I see it.
Just binge watched the whole season start to Finnish today. This has been the best sci fi tv show I have seen since bodies and 12 monkeys, in years. When a tv show makes you talk to the tv it goes into my top 10. Amazing 👏
Have you watched The Expanse?
Have you watched Dark?
Try watching it from start to Danish. 😆
I started watching it and found I was skipping through parts and ended up putting it off . Lol
Dark was OK it was a bit confusing until I re watched it 😳
I’m glad you also realize that sometimes intrigue comes from the unknown&that after sometimes is hyped up so much, it usually won’t live up to expectations.
If they do show the San-Ti, they better go above&beyond with it or it’ll probably end up another GoT.
There was also the analogy by Raj's father who told a story about how he had to eliminate a squad of Pakistani soldiers on the mountain range, and it saved his squad because he was able to take their oxygen tanks. Basically foreshadowing The Dark Forest.
I really liked the neat ways they found to tie season 1 to the later parts of the story.
(The Expanse did this too)
There was a scene drawing attention to how there was now a big shortage of consumer goods as resources were redirected to planetary defence
Most german reviewers gave mediocre reviews to the show mostly saying that the beginning is very slow but it would pick up after episode 4. For me personally i enjoyed the show from the beginning. I really hope they'll greenlight the next Seasons.
The show held my interest but barely
I too enjoyed the show from the start. Short attention span seems the norm these days.
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Plenty of intriguing mysteries set up in episode 1.
And The Cultural Revolution scenes were a novelty in an Anglophone show.
Break breakdown, you really elaborate the "love/hate" relationship with Netflix: we're happy that they delve into interesting content, but their business model sometimes leads to cancellations that seem short-sighted. It's as if they are more interested in making money than producing thought-provoking content! (being ironic LOL).
In before the book readers decide to comment future events. Thanks for keeping your questions limited to what’s shown in the show Pete!
No problem. Enjoy the ride.
awesome video and the show runners always change things so its good even for people who have read the books to keep them on their toes as well. hope they do all 3
having read the books, such a great series, really hope Netflix would renew it🙏🏻
Raj has to "go in a different direction" huh? Definitely Zhang Beihei's arc
How is there an individual pacifist Santi when they share thoughts as a collective?
I thought it was pretty clear that Ye explained the joke because the SanTi would not be able to decode the more subtle intricacies of human communication.
Also, bugs can kill or infect you or overwhelm and destroy your resources.
The Santi share thoughts not a hive mind that controls them all. They only choose to act as a collective as that's the only way to survive. They have feelings like humans and the ability to feel but they chose not to as imposed by the leaders as feelings make you weak which they cannot afford like the humans due to harsh living conditions. I imagine the their thought-sharing to be similar to the explanation of interacting in 4 dimensions explained in book 3. Once you see everything you can kind of block out and not focus on thoughts of the others and they become background noise.
They only said bugs because of Evans referring to police as bugs. This was basically their first use of metaphor which they copied from the humans. They will later learn to manipulate humans on a much bigger scale using our tactics.
one of the best videos explaining this series-its so hard to find a good one
I haven't read the books but found the Netflix production interesting and pretty stimulating. As a physicist, I found the portrayal of the scientist a bit out of the norm (most physicist are more socially awkward than the ones in the series). Also, I struggled accepting the "sophon" as a proton size computer.
I just completed the Chinese version of season 1 on Amazon Prime. That version is much longer and includes a slightly clearer story of the science (slightly). The Chinese series left me a bit more accepting of how the San-Ti (or Trisolarians) managed to get a quantum entangled particle to Earth on a timeline that made sense. While I suspect the Chinese version is a closer reflection of the book(s),, the Netflix version seems much more visually polished In the end, I could see the advantages of each production. I really hope Netflix continues the story. Either way, I suspect I'll get the books and read those.
It's great we've got two adaptations of this intriguing story, a kind of updated version of Foundation.
Yeah, the Chinese version is pretty much a letter for letter adaptation of (only) book 1. Meanwhile the Netflix series intertwines storylines and characters from all three books set in the current timeline. Like Wade and the Staircase program first appear in book 3 (the character of Wade and the woman who was in charge of the program play much bigger roles in book 3 and they and their choices are much more detrimental to the human civilization). The revelation of the reason why Santi abandoned the ETO and the wallfacers are first revealed in book 2. Even the appearance of the Santi "woman" is a 1-to-1 relics of a character that first appears in book 3. But reasonable to include and mix and match storylines in the same timeline but also not stop the season on the first book as each of the books have an open ending leaving the reader able to stop and not continue the series and let their imagination run wild what will happen next. Meanwhile you cannot really do that in the visual media. I mean you can but not advisable If you want to keep the audience hooked to get the to watch the next few seasons. But I highly recommend reading the books. Book 2 is an easy 10/10 and I'm doubtful anyone will be able to do justice to the brilliance of the story.
I was skeptical of DnD, but they did make the first 4 seasons of GoT good :) seriously though that boat scene felt so TERRIFYING
GOT was outstanding in its early seasons when D&D had the books to work with. Not sure why people were so jittery about Three Body. These guys know how to adapt a book series, they are just crap at writing their own material.
@@braxxian Kind of agreed, I think some people thought they were just bad at their jobs overall, not just bad at writing their own material. But I think this has given a little bit of redemption to them by proving that as long as they have source material to work with then they will be knocking it out of the park.
Wow you just demoralised me I didn't know that these idiots were the producers. Well expect them to take liberties and create plot holes instead of sticking to the source material
@@joshuadavis5899 To be fair - and this is coming from someone who was ready to literally burn DnD on a crucible for ruining a favoured book series again - not only did they make a good series (with 3BP) they also did a good job of heavily adapting it for the western audience, as well as mix'n'matching events from not just book 1 but also dark forest and death's end. One of the things i enjoyed was figuring out which book characters the show characters were based on.
I kind of disliked how sensationalised it was, with the strings cutting the little children's paper dolls to hammer home what is happening.. the Chinese TV series did it much better and classier.
All in all it is a good adaptation, but not great. It is clear they are rushing towards the Dark Forest. If they can pull it off, this series will be great.
I'll be interested to see how they portray saul devising his plan, because he can't communicate with anyone, or really even do anything such as go to a location or conduct an experiment without giving the San Ti some clue.
Perhaps they'll have a voice for his inner thoughts.
I’m in the 4th episode of the Tencent live action version. It’s good but so far I don’t like the pacing. Like do they really need 2 episodes focusing on the countdown the Nanofiber scientist is seeing? Hopefully the pacing gets better.
It's a more faithful adaptation of the trilogy, which definitely does have a rather slow start.
The ant climbing onto grooves in shape of numbers is from the second book. Is this a picture from season 1 that I have missed?
Yes it is an image from the last episode of season 1.
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I was happy they didn't forget the ant.
I hope it gets its own episode.
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We NEED to see The Santi invading Earth, and chatting to Will about fairy stories.
That's rich coming from her to tell him "never play with God" as the punchline of her joke after pushing that button and convincing herself that she can even begin to grasp how those advanced beings think.
Maybe she's warning him not to make the mistake she's just realized she made herself.
Shes telling him that the San Ti dont understand humor and its the perfect way to communicate ideas with them listening
@@yseson_ They also now know that the San-Ti don't understand concepts like lying and fiction. I think Ye should have helped humanity once she realized the mistake she made; instead she chose to give up and didn't take any responsibility for her actions.
@@imonymous Ye should have told that to Tatiana(who she brainwashed) before she was kindly murdered by her. She also should have told all those people she indoctrinated about the warning she received in the first message and what her answer was. Saul already knew not to play with advanced beings like The San-Ti; they were responsible for the deaths of two of his close friends(one who was Ye's own daughter, who ended her life because of her mother and the San-Ti), and they were trying to eliminate his girlfriend.
@@yseson_ sorry but thats not the point of the joke at all. They actually do understand the joke and what it alludes to. Thats the reason why they’re so hellbent on killing Ye and Saul. The meaning behind the joke is a MAJOR threat to the San ti if anybody every figured it out.
Have you read all the books? My problem season 1 is that it did not leave much for season 2 and 3. I still look forward to see what D&D will do.
What do you mean not enough??? Book 2 is enough to be 2 seasons given the wallfacer vs wallbreaker storylines, Zhang Beisi and his future plans, the Santi Drops.
I started reading the book after watching this series.
Man, I hope the San-Ti are some freaky looking monstrosities... little tiny bugs would be kinda underwhelming
I suspect if we get scenes of them talking to Will (and I think we err will) they'll present as human *to facilitate communication*.
From a Doylist pov it will also save money.
Man I so hope they will do a season two , and a three
Netflix says four seasons, but I don't see how it's possible to fit TDF and DE (minus Staircase) into only 3 eight-episode seasons.
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I think it'll end up being 3 ten-episde seasons. And given the pacing of season 1, 30 episodes for the remaining story seems pretty solid.
i didnt read the books so i have some theories.
the first one is maybe Will Downing would be found by other kind of aliens that will save him and make him a new body.
i also think that he would come back as some sort of a robot-like charcter that would lost something from his memory. maybe Will wont remamber Jin Cheng or have no feelings like a human anymore and she would try the make him feel again or something.
He cant be back thats impossible he has turn for that he cant control his ship
@@dailynation1436 you missed the found by other aliens part of the conjecture.
You're definitely thinking on the right lines.
Jin and Will 4ever!
Streaming platforms rarely invest in quality sets, cinematography, writing, and acting. They did a great adaptation of the book and have a great balance of seasoned actors and up and coming actors. I need season 2.
Can't wait for next Season 😍🎉❤
I'm so happy that they made a good version of the first book but sad that we got all the episodes at once because I really appreciate your take on a weekly basis. Thank you very much for giving your thoughts on a potential second season.
“Made a good version”
I was mostly wondering why they didn't prepare another rocket, given that most of the nukes are still there. Or is their positioning an issue? Even in that case, maybe after 10 years or so they may be able to have a ship that can pick up the nukes and move them?
I did figure it out! But sadly, that's because I bought the entire trilogy after the show came out and I knew what book 2 was called. The joke became very clear by the time I first heard it.
I'm REALLY liking this version! Maybe even MORE than the actual book series! The books are AMAZING high science fiction BUT it's in my opinion a long depressingly agonizing doom of humankind. Fascinating but not uplifting unless you are rooting for the Dark Forest😕
Frankly the most amazing thing about the books was that the CCP allowed them to be published at all...😊
I agree with you especially third book don’t get me wrong good idea but too much galactic catastrophe too much fictional science
It's not as restricted as North Korea, which's dystopian . As long you don't openly incite rebellious acts against the government, they'll leave you alone. Or unless you are a billionaire... then you have to be careful.
Got to say I really embraced this series, I am a big sci-fi fan visually, tend not to read the books although I might read these. Surprised a lot of the series was set in the UK and filmed here, it had a lot of Brit humour which I liked but not sure if it would travel well overseas. Hoping Netflix make season two but they cancelled so many good series early the OA being just one makes my wonder whether they will continue with 3BP.
Hopefully Netflix will allow a 2 season.The author certainly wrote a well told story.
It's the 2nd adaptation of a series of books. The Chinese version on Amazon Prime is far superior.
@@David-Field.Stuff01is it? Really? I've watched 15min and couldn't stand it since it's cinematography is all over the place. Looked like a project of acting students around 19 years old trying to do something big lol
Two things as just a viewer of the show confuse me: Given the 2 computers have no problem killing scientists with the count downs at the start, why don't they just keep doing that starting with all the people on the Staircase Project if they are scared of what people will become?
Also, why couldn't the aliens from what I assume the Centari system detect Earth given even by the 1960s we must have been lit up like a light bulb? Why did the signal need to be boosted by the sun?
The countdowns were just a bluff/psychological warfare. The sophons can't physically hurt anything.
4 light years is still a very long way. All of our "Christmas tree lights" diffuse into nothing shortly after leaving our solar system.
[spoilers]Well the killings were done through utilizing humans who’re in the cult. By the end of the 1st book the cult was mostly captured or in the show killed on the ship. The Sophons cannot directly kill ppl, they’re too small 😅.
Well ppl can’t detect us cause while we’ve been sending signals since the 60 the inverse square law will make the signals too weak to detect.
Our radio signals are incredibly weak even on an in solar system scale. Compared to solar output they are nonexistent. Even with the best detection equipment our signsls would be swamped by noise outside the oort cloud. Only directed signals allow us to communicate with the voyager probes.
The second season is already being filmed! I liked the ending, Bugs have been here forever! Bugs survive; humanity will survive somehow! The joke about playing with God; you don’t! There is always someone who is stronger, even stronger than the aliens, the San-ti! Best to live in silence, unless you know you are the ultimate power!
I always imagined the San Ti looked like Grey Matter from Ben 10. Small but not as small as bugs.
Netflix does not cancel series when it's only had one season and is number one in the world right now. I would think that they would have a second season at least.❤
My biggest problem with the series and book, lore wise, is why the trisolarians revealed the sophons to humanity. I know that the sophons are a narrative device, so the author can explore how humanity deals with an omnipotent computer looking all they are doing. But this makes zero sense to me. If they not revealed this, humanity would never know it's existence
It's not hard to think of reasons.
It appears that The Santi would prefer to exploit humans rather than exterminate them.
They want them cowed by quasi - religious awe so that they'll be obedient servants.
They want us to fear them and view them with reverence.
Because they wanted the humans to fear, and also they can’t lie. Technically the blinking universe would be a lie because it never happened, and they’d have to reveal it later on.
Cixin Liu's intended vision is to never show the aliens. He takes after Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke in that thought process. But this is TV do they might come up with a design. Tencent adapation already depicted the San-Ti in a non-canon in universe fashion so it is not exactly taboo.
Never show the aliens, and never show a competent woman after Ye Wenjie's death at the start of the second book. It's okay if we ignore the author in certain respects.
The trisolarans are depicted as the size of ants or a grain of rice, so they might just not show the aliens form at all but who knows.
@@baldmista1907thats in a book whose canonicity is debateable. Plus Cixin Liu was basically pressured into accepting it by his publisher and likely didnt approve of the appearance of the trisolarans being revealed.
It's Keiko O' Brien from Star Trek.
One point about the San Ti that this video did not mention is that they seem to have no concept of lying or deception, and they don’t know what the ability to lie implies. This makes sense if they communicate by thought and cannot keep secrets. They fear humans because we can lie. Even though they are eavesdropping on everything we say and do, they can’t be sure of what we’re thinking and what we will do in the next moment.
They seemed very scared by the human ability to lie.
They looked ready to go for the extermination option because of that, though they seemed to have changed their minds by the end of the season.
@2:05 how did the pacifist San-ti keep it hidden from the rest of them??
If they'd asked he/she would have told.
But chances are they wouldn't ask, assuming that any message from Earth would be reported.
Aliens that do not know the concept of lying and fiction and that hide their true appearance, that reminds me a lot of Galaxy Quest.
Man, really hoping they get to the end of Death's End. It would provide a great payoff for Will's arc.
I haven't read Redemption of Time yet, but it'd be interesting to see if that gets adapted too.
Lmao thanks for spoiling Deaths End hahah even though I suspected it leading somewhere given the future chapter titles and the era titles. I guess the dark forest isn't full of bloodthirsty hunters after all. At least that's my prediction
I wish failure of mission to send will's brain is an illusion by sofons to distract humans.
I'm pretty sure things are not as they seem.
We haven't seen the last of Will.
It’s challenging to tell the parts of the story from their perspective without showing us what they look like. Unless they just don’t show their perspective. The books can get away with it by leaving it up to the reader to describe in their head. That doesn’t work in a visual presentation. It’ll be interesting to see how the show handles these challenges. So far, I’m impressed. They stayed true to the most important points of the story and the changes help move the story forward or set up an important storyline for later. I’m happy to see the show getting positive attention. I can’t wait for season 2!
I think the idea of the three wallfacers is:
Saul is the scientist who will develop the means to fight the San-ti
The chinese general is the one who will develop the strategy to fight the fleet when they arrive
The kurdish rebel is the one who will annihilate them when they occupy the planet
Yep.
They look like a good team.
They negotiated a 2 season deal so the 2nd season is on the way.
I swear i feel like this is just gonna get canceled after just one season. I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to cancel Netflix because of this. They are such a greedy corporation. I don't know of any other streaming platform that cancels popular shows like they do just cause the first season doesnt break records with its opening. Especially it being a sci-fi show. They're aren't usually as many fans of sci-fi as there are other shows. That's why I love hbo. They respect their partners and the actors and will keep there shows going for the most part even if there not a number one hit. Same for Apple TV. They dont have near as many but the shows they do have have all been renewed. It's such a disgusting business model of axing every show after just one, occasionally a second season. Sometimes it's good to let shows run and actually have the freedom to tell the whole story and grow. Traction can pick up overtime and there will always be people interested in watching a complete series. I feel like eventually producers would not even want to work with netflix in the future seeing as they care that little about their partnerships and only seem to care about numbers at the end of the day. They have set up such a bad business model that I hope other platforms don't start doing this sort of thing even though recently it seems Amazon tried this. Just mass producing so many shows and then most of them being canceled after one season.
Question: what did Wade tell Jin (at her ear) when Will’s brain got lost in space?
I wonder.
Well I actually I'm pretty sure.
@@alanpennie please spoil it to me. 😄
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That the whole thing was a ruse, and Will's brain will be sent into Space later without any fanfare.
Luo Ji's standoff with the sophon's is etched in my mind. They better do it justice. I think the actor playing black Luo Ji can pull it off, he is well cast for the character.
i have the feeling that Will is probably the one that he traveled to the past and that he sent the message to Ye Wenjie or he is the Santee
That's a really interesting thought.
Will will eventually get pulled by enough gravity enough times than its going to crash either on a planetoid or a star. Any other outcome better give me a genius level explanation for me to believe that its not an asspull plot armour.
I really don’t know how they are going to do this because this was the easy part. Now the difficult stuff comes. How are they going to cover the 450 years without boring the shit out of people ……must say. I watched this first season 3 times. The first time I wasn’t impressed. Second time I started to enjoy it and after the third time is was breathless how good they guys made this show out of such a difficult material.
Agreed. Book 1 is defiantly just the set up. Books 2 & 3 get real heavy real fast. Look forward to seeing what they come up with.
They have a large audience in China too so it would be mad not to renew
I think the San-Ti are almost definitely some kind of worm or mollusk type creatures. That makes the most sense to me with the way their life cycle is portrayed.
So far, I saw Netflix plans on at least 2 more seasons. But we know how Netflix is about original shows😢
Tudum (a Netflix company) confirmed season 2 and 3 of this show is green lit.
How does it compare to Prime 30 episodes :"3 Body" ? That was comprehensive.
Oh yeah, he's not lost. They're going to get him
This is such a huge complement for me.
Thanks for all work.
The meaning of the joke is easily deduced when you see what books she looks at before the joke. It literally couldn’t be more obvious.
My burning question is who put the follower into their dress in the Tudor scene. They did not spiral lace her dress even though it was designed to be spiral laced. They cris crossed the lacing. Other than that the costumes were really good.
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I would be very mad if:
1) Netflix cancel this show
2) Jin Cheng not get together with Will in the end
awesome break down
Season 2 is 400 years, waiting santi
I think the challenge for Netflix is to create a second season based on The Dark Forest and a possible 3rd season on Death's End. The big question is does Netflix want to go off on a tangent and do a second season not based on the 2nd novel? Netflix may be worried that they may lose the attention of the audience if they continue with the book series as the 2nd and 3rd novel go into super high sci-fi and has a timeline span of literally millions of years. It will be a difficult task for them to do the last two novels justice.
Yea, book 1 was just the easy stuff. Books 2 & 3 get really crazy.
Will you be doing these about Fallout? I hope so! I really liked your Yellow Jackets videos too!
Yeah, I'm working on some Fallout stuff right now.
Lichen. They're intelligent moss.
I hope that the second season mainly focuses on only The Dark Forest Book and make Saul’s arc as dramatic as it was in the book, and maybe tease Death’s End on the last episode
The show was great and all, but I barely cared about the very generic characters tbh. This is my only big issue with such high-value productions on Netflix.
They're way better than the ones in the books.
When? When will be release season 2 Pepe?
One thing on my mind here.. 2 sophons are on the earth, 2 sophons on the trisolarians fleet.. therefor the trisolarians doesn’t have any fast/stable communication going back to their home planet, that fleet is on their own.. all we need is stalemate for the meantime while we slowly progress
They didn't say they dont have more Sophons. Besides, FTL Communication back home isn't really neccery. Normal Radio wave is fine. On top of that, their home would spend most of its time in Chaotic era while all the San-Ti is dehydrated anyway. Besides, you don't exactly need an AI computer for Quantum Communication. A Simple QEC can theoratically communitcate a 1 bit.
Spoiler
The 1st San-Ti Fleet never made it to Earth.
@@steak5599 damn you why did i read it all 🤣😂🤣
@@steak5599 dang you why did i read it all 🤣😂🤣
Actually dr Ye figure out the fermi's paradox by applying the theory of games' second corollary (and redeemd herself) Cixin Liu -as isaac asimov did before- founded a future transdiciplinary science: cosmic sociology. I will say more.
It got renewed 😊
The point of the impending war is that the San-tis realised they'd made a mistake. They chose Earth because they were so technologically superior they didn't consider mankind a threat. Through the chaotic responses they got while learning more about the inferior species, they realised their own evolution wouldn't progress much in 400 years, while mankind evolution would likely be exponential. That particular idea is used as a sub plot in a computer game called Elite, and probably a lot of older sci-fi. Early space travelling man sent large ships towards Tau Ceti, a whopping eight light years from our solar system. Their travel speed meant it would take them hundreds of years to get there, therefore the ships were designed to allow people to survive over generations, dubbing the ships Generation Ships. They were lost in space and when mankind eventually found them again, a thousand years had passed and the finders had developed "instant" space travel across tens of light years. The original travellers had perished hundreds of years earlier, never reaching their destination.
So, the San-tis realised, them being stuck on space ships for hundreds of years while mankind develops and learns, means mankind will likely be more advanced by the time they physically meet.
Long story to explain why I doubt the San-tis will be the ones "saving" Will in his lost spaceship. :)
The Santi totally capture the brain. He's integrated into their society and given a very high status.
@@ShirleyTimple Thanks for the spoiler alert, I said sarcastically. That plot doesn't make much sense in the context of the whole premises of the first season.
I knew this whole ‘aliens prepare for conquest by unleashing existential dread on humanity’ sounded familiar. It was almost totally heisted from Greg Bear’s brilliant hard sci-fi novel ‘The Forge of God’, written way back in 1987. Even the ‘dark forest’ concept came from Bear’s work:
“"There once was an infant lost in the woods, crying its heart out, wondering why no one answered, drawing down the wolves. We've been sitting in our tree chirping like foolish birds for over a century now, wondering why no other birds answered. The galactic skies are full of hawks, that's why. Planetisms that don't know enough to keep quiet, get eaten".
Track it down and read it.
What if Wills brain didn’t really go off course but the sophons just messed with the humans computers to make em think it didn’t work like how they were scrambling their sience at first 🤔
Season 2 is going to be amazing but I hope they also do season 3 “Death’s End.”
Will we get to see or hear the “Singers?”
How exactly did they make the advanced video games appear on Earth?