The MCU is not dead, stop being dramatic
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Today i rant about the MCU and how the MCU isnt dead, and how not liking the MCU isnt the same as The MCU being dead
this is pretty much an open letter to anyone who is claiming the MCU is dead just because you didnt like a few of their last few projects
and honestly if you didnt like all or most of phase 4, you dont like marvel anymore, sorry, move on
cause shits gonna keep going this path
you wack little gremlins
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If anything the MCU just becoming more comic accurate with the multiple different stories that will connect to new MCU event that changes status quo
You understand that is the problem that killed comics right like what you just said is why comics are dying like that was the thing they should have avoided
I will say despite some nitpicking with certain story decisions, I still very much enjoy the MCU. You made some excellent points, if people don’t like the movies. That’s fine…. But if someone is going out of their way to say “Old MCU stuff was better this new stuff is trash and MCU is dying because I said so…” Then you’re not just disliking some movies are you actively looking for conflict with fans who still enjoy the old and new. This is drama with Star Wars all over again, just painted a different color of bitterness. I stand firm with the MCU #MCUNOTDEAD
I’m just grateful the marvel universe is live action now not just in comics. You don’t get that with other franchises. not every thing perfect. All those people hating will probably come back for kang dynasty and secret wars 😂
If it's bad why do people try copy it
If it wasn't back then, it is right now
I’ve felt this way for a while. This video is pretty good
“Oh but the shows didn’t get popular and the recent movies are bad”… the shows are amazing (minus she-hulk imo) and were popular?! I saw things all over social media. The recent movies have been good aswell. Just because every movie or show isn’t 110% doesn’t mean it’s dead.
Even Feige himself admitted that a lot of their recent projects haven’t been doing well critically and/or commercially (saw it in a news article btw). And they’re currently trying to find the right creative direction after the whole Jonathan Majors situation and numerous flops.
Aside from that, I am not a huge fan of phases 4-5 compared to 1-2-3, but I did always think they had some redeeming qualities. I feel like Marvel NEEDS to take advantage of those qualities like the Celestials, X-Men, FF, etc. I don’t want them to become desparate.
The MCU is dying in certain aspects. I can ignore all pandemic releases box office numbers and those “flops” but Ms. Marvel did not catch on, the directors are not properly communicating, and the writing is becoming terrible. The tv shows don’t have legs like Netflix shows, no one is talking about Hawkeye, Moon Knight, etc. Wandavision & Loki have had the strongest runs and impact. Also the oversaturation is watering down the projects, rushing them, writing while filming them and screwing over VFX artists. It’s not dead, but it’s bleeding and they have to fix the wounds.
I'm actually currently making my own video defending the current state of the MCU. I've seen people say how phase 4 was "a drop in quality from the first three phases". Now while I do agree Phase 4 is a step-down from Phase 3, but I ALWAYS knew it was going to be that way due to how great Phase 3 was, I do, however, think there can can be more debate about whether Phases 1 and 2 are ACTUALLY better than Phase 4, because I think people forget that while, yes, Iron Man, The Avengers, Captain America The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy were always raved about and talked about for days, at the times of their releases, a lot of people:
1) didn't care about Captain America The First Avenger and Ant-Man;
2) found Iron Man 2+3 and Avengers Age of Ultron to be major disappointments;
3) and even to this day some of these same people still consider The Incredible Hulk and Thor 1+2 (The Dark World) to be some of the worst films in the franchise.
Even in some of the lesser shows and movies like Black Widow and Hawkeye, they still had amazing elements in it. I don’t think there’s a single character in those shows I don’t like. Black Widow only really gets bad in the third act and even then there’s some good jokes in there. I think most people who say the MCU is bad, are just those you checked out after endgame and are sick of people who still enjoy it. Honestly my only problems with this current phase has been the VFX artist stuff which pisses me off and the how they barely leave room between their projects anymore. Also Wanda in MoM. But that’s my own opinion
yeah i agree with ya on all that, I liked MoM, not amazing, but i enjoyed it.
The VFX thing makes me sad, hope something happens soon to help em out
The problem is these RUclipsrs join the bash the mcu train
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Yeah. People keep saying that Love and Thunder is super bad but turn around and say Ragnarok is great.
IT was great? What's the argument?
@@Kometheus I’m saying they both are in very similar ways
You see how one was the firs of its kind for Thor and the other is just a basic rehash
Ragnarok wasn't great though
Mcu is not dead but its actually progressing towards its doom. They should focus on the quality not the quantity. Nobody asked she hulk echo hawkeye groot tv shows. Even VFX artists are leaving marvel cause of how much atress is there and how they are always working on deadlines. In my opinion give the audience a chance to breathe and digest what they just saw before load them with tons of another shows and movies. Thor love and thunder is not that great just admit itand neither dr strange 2 they both were ok. No way home was not great in story perspective but nostalgia and old characters came on screen. Lets talk about jokes there is nothing wrong with jokes but if you have watched thor 4 then you know that Thor made a joke on lady sif's hand when she was on the blink of death🤷🤷. In No way home may dies peter mourns for some time and in the lab they did peter Parker spiderman joke🤷🤷 his aunt just died well it was a nitpicking but those are there. M not against anyone's opinion here i respect them but you gotta admit that MCU is not doing great. Ms Marvel does not connect anywhere but she has a show so MCU can have The Marvels movie 🤷🤷. Why does ECHO gets a show she is an antagonist who needs agathas show i mean c'mon 🤷🤷. The problem with MCU now is they want to milk evry character they see. Give spiderman a break what is this freshman of the year shit.
I agree with you but I actually want She hulk. Even though people may not ask for some titles, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be made. The best example is Guardians of the Galaxy. But overall yeah the quantity over quality thing is not a good strategy. I was so excited for Ms Marvel but then after the 2 episodes it just got bad, it feels like it needed more time
Flawed logic. It applies to phases 1 to 3. No one asked for a ant man movie, Dr Strange, or Black Panther. Calm down.
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This is very true
At the end of the day it's just a super hero industry.
If you disagree with current movies and shows, that's your right to have your opinion. Head back to your phases 1-3 and just let people enjoy things.
Well, everything I don’t like like is dead….so 🤷🏿
So how did this age then? 1 success that Disney tried tooth and nail to turn to shit. That versus how many disasters?
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Gonna Go through A MegaThread Moment
"You just don't like it anymore." Here's the big deal about that, you see, in that sentence, "You" represents more than half of the people who gave recognition to the brand.
Phase 1-3 giveth and Phase 4 taketh away. Phase 4 has been like they (Disney/Marvel) hired a new executive producer who wasn't briefed on who the MCU's audience is. Post Endgame, we've been getting sub par storylines, and unnecessary underlying politics attached to projects.
And, I get that they're (Disney/Marvel) trying new things, but it really feels like they're reaching into a raffle bucket and pulling out random project titles, then hiring activists as writers, directors, and project consultants.
Also, I would imagine that a big part of the problem with Phase 4 is that, strangely while Feige remains head honcho, the franchise seems to be lacking in direction and insight. And, there's like this growing disconnect from its audience that has been leading to a good amount of tension in social media.
So far, Disney/Marvel have been too busy pandering to social groups to make time for giving the MCU's main audience what they want. If the franchise is to come back to healthy profits, they will need to get their priorities in order.
It's really a sad state of affairs right now, but in understanding that a company can learn from their mistakes, I remain optimistic about the future.
But this isn't abnormal
People grow up, and their tastes change
And its not like The MCU has lost "2/3rds" of their money
Contrary to what some ranting people on here say they're still pulling numbers
Thor 4 (the one that "everyone hated")
Has made more than ragnarok
To be fair Thor 4 cost more, so they didn't get as big of a payday
But that's not the point
The point is that there's still the exact amount of people if jot more tuning into mcu and giving it their money
The mcu is not dying
And phase 4 has had some of the greatest stories in the entire MCU
Its just a different style
So some people aren't gonna like it
But a lot more people are
@@DecoyZ I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on the MCU's growth and numbers.
The MCU is definitely in decline. I didn't say it was dead though; in fact I still follow the MCU, and I've been a fan since Iron Man 1.
But, all you have to do is look at the latest box office numbers to know that the franchise isn't bringing in the same profits. And, it definitely hasn't been improving in quality. You can see that in its declining critical scores and the mixed reception of its latest projects. A lot of that is because the talent is no longer there.
What bothers me the most though is that it appears that the franchise is no longer reaching out to a broad audience with some shows being too female centric, too kid centric, or too adult, and that is what concerns me, because I fear that the MCU may be on its way to becoming a niche pleasure or a fad.
And as far as Thor 4 is concerned, it still underperformed even though it made more than Ragnarok, therefore it wouldn't be a legitimate example of proof that the MCU is growing.
I'm not really dramatic. It's the people who are dramatic because Thor Love and Thunder movie. I mean I didn't saw Thor Love and Thunder movie.
I hate nerdrotic
The dceu is dead thats dead mcu doctor strange 2 just beat the batman boxoffice
The MCU isnt dead or dying. People on RUclips, Instagram, Facebook, and other social media are being stupid as usual. There baby because some of their favorites are gone like Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans well guess what people their character stories are done move on.
try actually watching their videos because they have made better points than that.
@@chimichangas365I dont watch RUclips people reviews of movies it because their racist. I love the MCU and still watch the movies and shows because I'm a fan of the comics too.
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mcu movies used to be must watch for me. i watched iron man 1 2 3 and missed captain america movies and dr strange and ant man ... after avengers i watched what i missed on streaming... after catching up i was hooked.
after end game ., i was so hyped.
then shitty movie after shitty movie.... shang chi was ok and spider man movies were good . even for shang chi i hated that the lead character got kicked in the balls by a strong wahmen...
thor and dr strange were nerfed and made to be incompetent .
when the marvels came, i wanted to give it a chance. a friend who was a hard core mcu fan told it was awful and i decided i was not going to waste my time.
mcu has lost a lot of goodwill and that is reflected in the box office.
To quote a show that would probably come from MCU haters’ precious little basket of “quality content” FX’ The Bear - “I wonder sometimes if nostalgia clouds our judgement, and creates an angry desire for perfection with every turned over spot.”
Sure the mcu isn't exactly dying but its impossible to deny that in the past 2 years or so it has been getting slowly worse. With Disney putting out near impossible deadlines making cgi get worse for the many tv shows it releases a year. Jokes in the mcu just don't land anymore, there is too much content coming out too fast, too many bad shows compared to good ones and the mcu starting to be a way to voice political issues...
To add to this people also don’t want to accept the new characters, they just want the same ones we’ve had forever and it’s confusing to me considering it’s a on going story 🤦🏽♂️
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you're right mcu isn't dead bcuz it's on lifesupport on its way of being dead thanks to disney
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Hey man, no hate, although I do hold the opinion that the MCU is dying. Has your opinion changed even slightly after the release of The Marvels?
The Marvels was a good movie so it's definitely not "dying"
@@itsnick5082 The Marvels made less than The Flash, which had a child groomer as its main actor. The film's box office returns couldn't even match its production budget. It was a certified flop. Whether you think The Marvels was good doesn't matter, because that's subjective. Your opinion isn't worth more than those who thought it was bad. It's okay to be an MCU fan. Just don't try and deny reality.
@@itsnick5082
Delusional
GOOD STORY MUST HAVE TRUE ENDING
MARVEL ONLY CAN DOUBLE DOWN LIKE SAY ALL OF MCU FILM IS CANON THAN CALL THEM SPIN OFF MOVIE. MARVEL LOVE MONEY. THEY MILKING MCU UNTIL DRY
I AM ONLY WATCH ADULT STORY WITH ENDING LIKE BREAKING BAD, HOBBIT, CODE GEASS,ETC
Not dead. Dying. The MCU SUCKS NOW.
L opinion
Sorry that your life isn't as fun
@@DecoyZ lmoo 🤡🤡🤡 m-she-u fantard is pissed. 😂🤣
Facts. more like a Zombie. Walking Dead
@@DecoyZ Not an L opinion. Literally the MCU is dying. Ask any casual viewer nowadays and the consensus is always negative. Doctor strange MOM is abysmal and so is every Disney+ show
We have an m she u doofus! 🤡
Hard disagree on this one
In what way do you disagree?
Alright, I’m sorry but This?
Okay, firstly you need to watch more quality content.
Literally everything in Phase 4 is lacklustre. Terrible CGI, plot contrivances, horrendous joke overuse and LITERAL massive plotholes that ruin previous films.
The MCU is not dead. It’s way too powerful as a money making machine and with its grip on culture. Phase 4 has been a success for Marvel.
But literally almost everything in Phase 4 has been Okay I guess, to Meh to complete utter dogshit in terms of storytelling, filmmaking and effects.
Hell, Phase 3 wasn’t perfect either.
I’ll just say, watch some in-depth hour long reviews on No Way Home like WayHome Machine Broke-
S.K’s review on No Way Home & especially endgame.
No Way Home’s plot literally makes no fucking logical sense at all.
People’s tastes aren’t changing. They’re recognising a clear and obvious dip in quality.
And before you respond, actually do some real research on these films & shows’ filmmaking and storytelling.
Even winter soldier isn’t all that cracked up to be.
Look it up and you’ll be surprised.
You’re just salty because he’s right
"I'll just say, watch some in-depth hour long reviews on no way home"
So you want me to watch someone else's opinion to formulate my own?
This is what I'm talking about
You're just jumping on someone else's back, you have no ground to stand on, you're a human ans yet you rely on opinions of a few people on RUclips to dictate whether a film is good
The mcu is one of the best film series in existence
If it wasn't, it wouldn't be setting records and being incredibly recognised
The mcu isn't bad, endgame isn't a mess, you should stop relying on RUclips reviews to formulate your own human opinion
As for "people's tastes aren't changing"
That's literally what life is, your tastes change as you age, you become a different person over time
Phase 4 is better than Phase 1
As a fact
Phase 1 had 2 mid movies and 1 bad one with 2 films that were amazing
Most of phase 4 is great with a few misses.
MCU fans have gotten so spoiled and pretentious it makes me sick
I completely forgot about this comment thread.
@@miltonjones3519
Not really, lol
The denial part of grieving.
Again, ur OPINION
How is it grieving if someone still enjoys a series or franchise?
@@miltonjones3519 The title of the video says different it just try justify the brand deterioration it's normal I guess.
MCU died with Endgame imo
I blame disney
Cope harder ;)
"Those (Phase 4 products) are some of the best MCU projects that have EVER been on screen." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No. People that understand writing, storytelling, and film can, in fact, explain the difference between good and bad products. Quality and competence are not as 100% subjective as clowns like this guy would like you to believe. Most people would agree that (other than the clowning of Doctor Strange) Spider-Man: No Way Home is a good film. Most people would also agree that WandaVision was also of high quality save for the fact they couldn't stick the landing in the finale. Shang Chi, Eternals, and Moon Knight are of decent quality, but suffer from the fact that not enough attention was given to making them truly fit into the MCU in any meaningful or coherent way. Everything else in Phase 4 is of low quality. It's bad almost entirely due to the fact that it suffers from some extremely poor writing on the part of the creators. Plot contrivances and conveniences abound. Blatant pandering to "muh diversity". The lack of any real passion or respect for the characters or the source material is crystal clear in Thor: L&T, Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Ms. Marvel, and She Hulk.
There is actually a difference between good and bad films. Stop shilling.
Step 1. Denial.
Step 1. Make an original comment
@@miltonjones3519you failed your own step one😂
@@BrandonWhatTheF Took you 8 months to come up with that?😂
@@miltonjones3519 ...did you see me 8 months ago, you idiot? I just found this video.
Step 1. Stop being a dramatic baby. You're in denial that the MCU is still good
Dead bro