I was just recommended this video and I'm so glad, this is amazing! Somehow I missed the news about this controller, despite playing FBL daily since release. I must say, seeing you own Allstar Carnival made me VERY jealous lol.
So glad i was recommended this channel, I was coincidentally just talking about how i would love to commission someone to make a controller for Theatrythm or groove coaster! Also super cute icon btw 😊
Thank you!! Yeah, this controller is good for a lot of different rhythm games. I don't really play any others, but I might try them out just because I have it.
FBL is really interesting because the difficulty/amount of simultaneous inputs actually went up from cab to home version which is unusual for rhythm games. I'd be interested in seeing how/if sqex updates the AC cab since we don't really have an "official" button layout that accommodates FBL.
That would be interesting to see! Their only options would be to reissue the cab with more buttons (they're offline and no longer supported so this seems like what they'd do if they did anything), or alter the songs to add the slide hold triggers back in just for the cab.
I just started playing Theatrhythm a couple weeks ago and I might try to get one of these controllers. I didn’t even know this was an arcade game until watching this video.
This is awesome, I got mine the other day and am loving it! I missed playing the arcade so much! Working my way up to extreme difficulty atm, its so tough!
It’s so much fun! It’s a bit rough working your way up, but the more you play it, the more your fingers will understand. I get a bit rusty in ultimate when I play on lower difficulties so I try to switch it up.
Ok, the multi-hold was indeed the part that was scaring me with this, but you showed High Five on Supreme, which is the best exemple, and it feels more natural than I thought. I'm just scared of those big arcade controllers. I can't even play with the pro controller. For rhythm games, I feel that the tinier it is, the better I am with it. I'm actually playing with the actual Joy-Con for all my rhythm games on Switch, be it Theatrhythm, Groove Coaster, Project Diva or Taiko. All those tiny buttons and sticks, it feels quicker to press any of them without any delay. Thanks again for another very informative video. And LOL at the cable disconnect when you open the controller 🤣. Good choice of keeping it in 😁
Thank you! High Five on supreme is now my favorite song to play. It’s just so much fun. Trying new controllers can be scary, especially when they’re expensive.
This was a really nice review. You have more of a comfortable way of reviewing a product even when you give critiques. I'm so used to direct and dry reviews but your approach definitely made me much more interested in the product!
I've been really getting into this game and have been slowly working my way up to ultimate stages so to see you go through all those motions so effortlessly was so sick. The stick also looks very ergonomic, which would help with long play sessions. Have only been playing on handheld mode to avoid as much lag as possible, cause I've noticed my pro controller would have slight input delay but that also could be my capture card having issues. But this looks great, I'm interested, and fantastic review!
I'm really bad at detecting lag, but I know some people have a wired controller for their switch instead of using the pro controller just to deal with input lag.
I was thinking of getting a new fighting stick for my switch for the select few fighting games on the console, but I feel this would be a more worthwhile investment and experience. Nice overview and solid talking points. :D
I have not used the Fanta Palm Controller but am working on making my own version. This video was definitely helpful for seeing things to do better before I make the final version of mine, like having the sticks recessed definitely looks better than having them up high like a normal arcade stick. (Disclaimer, I have not had the opportunity to play this on a cab so I was blindly going about this.)
Glad the video can help! I’ve found the cabinet in various arcades around me too. After playing for a while with the Fanta palm, I can say that it is absolutely more comfortable than the arcade.
Great video! I wish more people did detailed videos like this on controllers. I built my own custom arcade controller that match the specs of the ASC arcade cabinet. I also re-designed it for FBL. I commented earlier with a link to it, but I think it was auto deleted. I wish you could see it - it’s perfect.
That’s okay, I actually see it in the discord. I finally joined it, I’m just a little shy 😅 it looks really cool! I love that all the buttons are big. I’m sure that makes it super easy to press.
@@SmorezPoptart hey - you DID join - great. I was gonna send you an invite, lol. Thanks for the compliment, that means a lot coming from someone who has played so much on different controllers. If you ever have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. Yea, the buttons are the same diameter as the the ASC cabinet, I wanted to keep the dimensions as true as practically possible. I also have absolutely ginormous hands, so it works perfect! The trickiest part was coming up with a design that replicated the slider mechanism of the actual cabinet. But, I was able to solve that mystery.
thanks for this video! i'm gonna order one of these to finally play Theatrhythm at home! also looks to be a good controller to use on Groove Coaster too!
Yes! There was a bunch of different rhythm games that this controller is good for it looks like. I think Groove Coaster was one they showed off with it as well.
I haven't! I might try some games out in the future. It might be a bit complicated because of the layout for anything but a rhythm game, but it'll be fun to try.
I don't know why the algorithm gods asked me to come here but I'm thankful. This is the first I'm learning Theatrhythm actually has an arcade cabinet! That makes me really hope I find one someday. I love these games and that stick looks dope (and what I think was LEDs in the right corner was cool too)!
To fix the recoil. Swap the stick spring with something like a 4lb or 6lb spring. Most generic "sanwa" clone sticks have horrible stock springs. Really cool custom stick.
I actually have done some customizations to it, and I tried to replace the spring but the stick is a little more involved than what I’m used to. The bottom of the sticks are on a ball joint.
@@SmorezPoptartoh interesting. I completely missed that in the vid. Havent seen those myself. Im curious to see the inside of its mechanics. Does it have any part model number or make info? Tempted to buy some myself to tinker with. My friend just got me hooked on this game, and with your review makes me want to build my own with some spare parts i have laying around. That's how i got here 😊
@@SmorezPoptart As a newbie of Theatrhythm, I am still learning to hit slides/notes combo, My head literally froze everytime I see those pattern! Btw, great video! I will share it with my friend and see if they want one.
What is the diameter/width of the big hole on the faceplate that the sticks balltops are coming through? I have a perfect box, but only one and don't want to drill holes for the buttons too close to the sticks.
Hello and thank you very much for the video covering this controller. I’m currently in the process of ordering the Fanta Palm from Ash, the guy who is making these as his order form just opened up. I had asked if he would put in the PS5 adapter as an upgrade and he said that the Brooks company said that it would only work with Fighting Game controllers and that could not guarantee that the Fanta Palm would work on the PS5. I was wondering, in your video you mentioned that you had the upgraded adapter. Does it work for you on PS5? Knowing this would be very helpful! Thank you very much for your time and for doing a great video!
I’m actually not sure! I play on the switch and don’t own a ps5 yet. I do remember seeing something about that but have no way to verify on my own. I’m not sure if that’s something that could be changed in the future on Sonys end with ps5 updates.
@@SmorezPoptart Thanks for the reply. I “think” I have found out the answer in case you or others folks on your channel are wondering. I did some research on it after the controller’s maker, Ash, said that he wasn’t quite sure if this controller was compatible with PS5. He had asked the Brooks company and their response was that it would only be compatible with fighting game controllers on the PS5 and not other controllers. That was a bit of a difficult comment to understand given that the adapter that was added to some of these is well… made for PS5 support. I believe I now understand what was actually meant by this now. Since Final Bar Line is a PS4 game, the controller hardware by default will work with PS4 games. That means it would work whether you play it on an actual PS4 or a PS5. It should make no difference. If Final Bar Line or other games that are actually made for PS5 or have PS5 versions, that is where this controller with the books adapter specifically might not be guaranteed to work as intended since it’s not really a fight stick so to speak. The only real proof I have of that is someone I spoke with who bought a Fanta Palm but did not do the PS5 Brooks adapter upgrade and his works just fine on his PS5 with Final Bar Line. There’s apparently a little trick you have to do where you sign in to the PS5 using a different controller first and then plugging this in to the front USB jack. It should be recognized by the PS5 and from what I’ve read, it reads it as a Switch controller, which is interesting. But they did say it worked and thats good enough for me. I decided to go ahead and order one so I should know soon! Anyhow, great channel! May have to check out some of your other videos when I have time. Congrats on getting an official All-Star Carnival cabinet. I don’t own own any official cabs myself… but I’ve been known to have Frankensteined a full SDVX setup with wings and a custom arcade setup for Nostalgia and Chunithm and many other rhythm games using official panels from some dismantled cabs… lol They turned out pretty well though!
That’s some really good insight, thanks! Yeah I wasn’t sure how backwards compatibility works on the ps5, I just knew it was a ps4 game but you can play it on ps5. Controllers and mods have always been so weird no matter what console.
It’s so much fun, especially if you like final fantasy. Some arcades have the arcade cabinets, so if you have one close to you it might be worth checking.
I'm looking to try building my own Theatrhythm controller and I'd love to use the joysticks / analog sticks from this controller. But I can't find what they are so I can purchase them. Would you be able to tell what they are or what it says on the side of them when you open the case? Thanks for your help
I think a standard circle-gate stick would work for them, that's what's in the arcade cab. These are on a ball joint, and I'm not 100% sure what they are. I'm pretty sure stick is a modded version of the Brook Fighter Chameleon, which you can find here: www.brookaccessory.com/detail/68123565/
please i need help i know nothing about arcade sticks, i bought a fanta palm groove coaster themed controller but it has stick drift! the left stick is cosntantly drigting to the left, how can i fix it?
I would personally open up the faceplate and reconnect all of the connecters (though I've been around arcade sticks for a while and feel more comfortable than most), but it might be best to reach out to the creator of the Fanta Palm. I've heard he's really good with assisting.
hi, thanks for answering, how can i contact him? i bought it from a 3rd aprty broker since it wouldnt ship to my country. i opened it up an reconected all the cables related to that stick but nothing@@SmorezPoptart
The controller creators info is in the description, but I’m not sure if he’s making them anymore. I did see someone selling one on the theatrhythm Reddit, so you might have luck looking there.
Can't wait to see someone pull this out at a smash tournament
I was just recommended this video and I'm so glad, this is amazing! Somehow I missed the news about this controller, despite playing FBL daily since release. I must say, seeing you own Allstar Carnival made me VERY jealous lol.
It's an unofficial controller, so Square didn't release it. They should have, though!
So glad i was recommended this channel, I was coincidentally just talking about how i would love to commission someone to make a controller for Theatrythm or groove coaster! Also super cute icon btw 😊
Thank you!! Yeah, this controller is good for a lot of different rhythm games. I don't really play any others, but I might try them out just because I have it.
FBL is really interesting because the difficulty/amount of simultaneous inputs actually went up from cab to home version which is unusual for rhythm games. I'd be interested in seeing how/if sqex updates the AC cab since we don't really have an "official" button layout that accommodates FBL.
That would be interesting to see! Their only options would be to reissue the cab with more buttons (they're offline and no longer supported so this seems like what they'd do if they did anything), or alter the songs to add the slide hold triggers back in just for the cab.
I just started playing Theatrhythm a couple weeks ago and I might try to get one of these controllers. I didn’t even know this was an arcade game until watching this video.
The arcade was exclusive to Japan until more recently! Once the arcade server went offline people started to import them.
Well my local arcade round 1 has alot of japanese rythem games I guess I am luckey that way xD
great overview and review :D
Thank you!
This is awesome, I got mine the other day and am loving it! I missed playing the arcade so much! Working my way up to extreme difficulty atm, its so tough!
It’s so much fun! It’s a bit rough working your way up, but the more you play it, the more your fingers will understand. I get a bit rusty in ultimate when I play on lower difficulties so I try to switch it up.
How is it after a year? I'm thinking about getting one for the switch...
Ok, the multi-hold was indeed the part that was scaring me with this, but you showed High Five on Supreme, which is the best exemple, and it feels more natural than I thought. I'm just scared of those big arcade controllers. I can't even play with the pro controller. For rhythm games, I feel that the tinier it is, the better I am with it. I'm actually playing with the actual Joy-Con for all my rhythm games on Switch, be it Theatrhythm, Groove Coaster, Project Diva or Taiko. All those tiny buttons and sticks, it feels quicker to press any of them without any delay.
Thanks again for another very informative video. And LOL at the cable disconnect when you open the controller 🤣. Good choice of keeping it in 😁
Thank you! High Five on supreme is now my favorite song to play. It’s just so much fun. Trying new controllers can be scary, especially when they’re expensive.
Oh god, i must own this, even though i´ll possibly never use it. MY OCD for obscure hardware needs to be satisfied.
I do this all the time. I see something I need and can't live without, then stop using it 2 weeks later. RIP all my journals.
This is something I never thought I could do with an old stick laying around. Amazing idea!
RUclips algorithm is working. This video was in my recommended feed, and it did not disappoint.
This was in my recommended because I was watching brutalmoose videos last night ? I feel the same vibe is here, good editing 👍
Thank you!
Excellent video!!
Thank you!
This was a really nice review. You have more of a comfortable way of reviewing a product even when you give critiques. I'm so used to direct and dry reviews but your approach definitely made me much more interested in the product!
Thank you!!
I've been really getting into this game and have been slowly working my way up to ultimate stages so to see you go through all those motions so effortlessly was so sick. The stick also looks very ergonomic, which would help with long play sessions. Have only been playing on handheld mode to avoid as much lag as possible, cause I've noticed my pro controller would have slight input delay but that also could be my capture card having issues. But this looks great, I'm interested, and fantastic review!
I'm really bad at detecting lag, but I know some people have a wired controller for their switch instead of using the pro controller just to deal with input lag.
I was thinking of getting a new fighting stick for my switch for the select few fighting games on the console, but I feel this would be a more worthwhile investment and experience. Nice overview and solid talking points. :D
I forgot there was even fighting games on the switch lol
@@SmorezPoptart 😮BlazBlue Cross Tag, SNK heroines, and Capcom titles
I have not used the Fanta Palm Controller but am working on making my own version. This video was definitely helpful for seeing things to do better before I make the final version of mine, like having the sticks recessed definitely looks better than having them up high like a normal arcade stick. (Disclaimer, I have not had the opportunity to play this on a cab so I was blindly going about this.)
Glad the video can help! I’ve found the cabinet in various arcades around me too. After playing for a while with the Fanta palm, I can say that it is absolutely more comfortable than the arcade.
Great video! I wish more people did detailed videos like this on controllers. I built my own custom arcade controller that match the specs of the ASC arcade cabinet. I also re-designed it for FBL. I commented earlier with a link to it, but I think it was auto deleted. I wish you could see it - it’s perfect.
That’s okay, I actually see it in the discord. I finally joined it, I’m just a little shy 😅 it looks really cool! I love that all the buttons are big. I’m sure that makes it super easy to press.
@@SmorezPoptart hey - you DID join - great. I was gonna send you an invite, lol. Thanks for the compliment, that means a lot coming from someone who has played so much on different controllers. If you ever have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. Yea, the buttons are the same diameter as the the ASC cabinet, I wanted to keep the dimensions as true as practically possible. I also have absolutely ginormous hands, so it works perfect! The trickiest part was coming up with a design that replicated the slider mechanism of the actual cabinet. But, I was able to solve that mystery.
I never saw somethimg like that.. Thx for this. ☀️
I agree too great video
Thank you!
@@SmorezPoptart most welcome let me know if you would like to collaborate x
thanks for this video! i'm gonna order one of these to finally play Theatrhythm at home! also looks to be a good controller to use on Groove Coaster too!
Yes! There was a bunch of different rhythm games that this controller is good for it looks like. I think Groove Coaster was one they showed off with it as well.
Whoa never heard of this controller. Have you tried this with 3rd person action games like BOTW or Hi fi rush?
I haven't! I might try some games out in the future. It might be a bit complicated because of the layout for anything but a rhythm game, but it'll be fun to try.
This whole video was a vibe
Nice!
great review! c:
Thank you!
I don't know why the algorithm gods asked me to come here but I'm thankful. This is the first I'm learning Theatrhythm actually has an arcade cabinet! That makes me really hope I find one someday. I love these games and that stick looks dope (and what I think was LEDs in the right corner was cool too)!
Thanks! There's a few arcades around here called Round 1 that have the cabinets now. If you have an arcade around you it's worth checking out!
To fix the recoil. Swap the stick spring with something like a 4lb or 6lb spring. Most generic "sanwa" clone sticks have horrible stock springs.
Really cool custom stick.
I actually have done some customizations to it, and I tried to replace the spring but the stick is a little more involved than what I’m used to. The bottom of the sticks are on a ball joint.
@@SmorezPoptartoh interesting. I completely missed that in the vid. Havent seen those myself. Im curious to see the inside of its mechanics.
Does it have any part model number or make info? Tempted to buy some myself to tinker with.
My friend just got me hooked on this game, and with your review makes me want to build my own with some spare parts i have laying around. That's how i got here 😊
Came for rhythm game arcade stuff, see’s AFS.
I bought the Fanta Palm too! It was truly amazing! still trying to get used to it tho, it was a huge different from using Switch Pro to play
It’s super different but so worth it! I don’t ever want to go back to controller at this point.
@@SmorezPoptart As a newbie of Theatrhythm, I am still learning to hit slides/notes combo, My head literally froze everytime I see those pattern! Btw, great video! I will share it with my friend and see if they want one.
Thanks for the video. For some reason, I always thought Carnival used trackballs (I've never seen the arcade in person)
Love the housing music from FFXIV in the background of your intro
FFXIV has some of the best music ever
Just paid mine, I can't wait to get it 😵😵😵
Yay! I hope you have as much fun with it as I have
Nice
I just submitted a request to order the Fanta Palm. This controller looks like it'll make playing the game even more fun!
It’s so much fun. And you feel extra fancy when you hit the buttons fast.
@SmorezPoptart I submitted my payment yesterday! Looking forward to it!😁
ayyy good video and edits👏👏
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Cool. I love weirdo controllers.
They’re great
What is the diameter/width of the big hole on the faceplate that the sticks balltops are coming through? I have a perfect box, but only one and don't want to drill holes for the buttons too close to the sticks.
Hello and thank you very much for the video covering this controller. I’m currently in the process of ordering the Fanta Palm from Ash, the guy who is making these as his order form just opened up. I had asked if he would put in the PS5 adapter as an upgrade and he said that the Brooks company said that it would only work with Fighting Game controllers and that could not guarantee that the Fanta Palm would work on the PS5.
I was wondering, in your video you mentioned that you had the upgraded adapter. Does it work for you on PS5? Knowing this would be very helpful! Thank you very much for your time and for doing a great video!
I’m actually not sure! I play on the switch and don’t own a ps5 yet. I do remember seeing something about that but have no way to verify on my own. I’m not sure if that’s something that could be changed in the future on Sonys end with ps5 updates.
@@SmorezPoptart Thanks for the reply. I “think” I have found out the answer in case you or others folks on your channel are wondering. I did some research on it after the controller’s maker, Ash, said that he wasn’t quite sure if this controller was compatible with PS5. He had asked the Brooks company and their response was that it would only be compatible with fighting game controllers on the PS5 and not other controllers. That was a bit of a difficult comment to understand given that the adapter that was added to some of these is well… made for PS5 support. I believe I now understand what was actually meant by this now. Since Final Bar Line is a PS4 game, the controller hardware by default will work with PS4 games. That means it would work whether you play it on an actual PS4 or a PS5. It should make
no difference. If Final Bar Line or other games that are actually made for PS5 or have PS5 versions, that is where this controller with the books adapter specifically might not be guaranteed to work as intended since it’s not really a fight stick so to speak.
The only real proof I have of that is someone I spoke with who bought a Fanta Palm but did not do the PS5 Brooks adapter upgrade and his works just fine on his PS5 with Final Bar Line. There’s apparently a little trick you have to do where you sign in to the PS5 using a different controller first and then plugging this in to the front USB jack. It should be recognized by the PS5 and from what I’ve read, it reads it as a Switch controller, which is interesting. But they did say it worked and thats good enough for me. I decided to go ahead and order one so I should know soon!
Anyhow, great channel! May have to check out some of your other videos when I have time. Congrats on getting an official All-Star Carnival cabinet. I don’t own own any official cabs myself… but I’ve been known to have Frankensteined a full SDVX setup with wings and a custom arcade setup for Nostalgia and Chunithm and many other rhythm games using official panels from some dismantled cabs… lol They turned out pretty well though!
That’s some really good insight, thanks! Yeah I wasn’t sure how backwards compatibility works on the ps5, I just knew it was a ps4 game but you can play it on ps5. Controllers and mods have always been so weird no matter what console.
Imagine playing FPS games using this arcade stick
I think your on to something
Arcade Boomer/Retro Shooters
I never play rhythm games but omg that looks so fun
It’s so much fun, especially if you like final fantasy. Some arcades have the arcade cabinets, so if you have one close to you it might be worth checking.
I need this so much, but I dont understand japanese so it's pretty hard to order from what I've seen.. :(
When you open the Google Form, it should give you an option to auto translate it. At least it did for me with using Google Chrome.
Kinda wanna see this used with Arcaea too lmao
That would be so cool! I wonder how it'd do.
I'm looking to try building my own Theatrhythm controller and I'd love to use the joysticks / analog sticks from this controller. But I can't find what they are so I can purchase them. Would you be able to tell what they are or what it says on the side of them when you open the case? Thanks for your help
I think a standard circle-gate stick would work for them, that's what's in the arcade cab. These are on a ball joint, and I'm not 100% sure what they are. I'm pretty sure stick is a modded version of the Brook Fighter Chameleon, which you can find here:
www.brookaccessory.com/detail/68123565/
@@SmorezPoptart I've a case already so I'll try out two circle gate joysticks if that's what's in the real cab. Thank you!
I don't care or know about this game, I just saw a wacky controller and click
I see those shorter nails on your left hand. Do you play a stringed instrument?
Yeah! I picked guitar back up recently after not playing for like 10 years.
please i need help i know nothing about arcade sticks, i bought a fanta palm groove coaster themed controller but it has stick drift! the left stick is cosntantly drigting to the left, how can i fix it?
I would personally open up the faceplate and reconnect all of the connecters (though I've been around arcade sticks for a while and feel more comfortable than most), but it might be best to reach out to the creator of the Fanta Palm. I've heard he's really good with assisting.
hi, thanks for answering, how can i contact him? i bought it from a 3rd aprty broker since it wouldnt ship to my country. i opened it up an reconected all the cables related to that stick but nothing@@SmorezPoptart
I'm not 100% sure the best way, but this is his twitter: twitter.com/HuangAsh
no wonder ive been getting cooked on FBL 💀
Lmao. To be fair, I was doing alright on controller too.
Do you know when they will accept more orders for this controller?
I think they might have recently opened it up? But if you follow their social media, they give updates there!
Does Avril Lavigne know she has a brunette twin?
Ahhhhhh love her
Serious question here, how do I buy one?
The controller creators info is in the description, but I’m not sure if he’s making them anymore. I did see someone selling one on the theatrhythm Reddit, so you might have luck looking there.
You play FFXIV?
I do! I’ve been playing for almost 10 years now.
@@SmorezPoptart me too! What server do you play in?
I've been spread out lately, but my main is on Gilga
Not bad. I'm on Midgard! Should run something sometime :)
Ewwww
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4:10 made my day 🤣
I can't not break things, it's just in my blood