Elemental Reactions Are Getting BUFFED In Genshin 5.2! How Impactful Are The Changes?

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  • @anddad
    @anddad  Месяц назад +34

    I MADE A MISTAKE IN THE VIDEO 💀 At 1:36, in the charts, I swapped the labels for Shatter and Electro-Charged, sorry about that :/
    Also, here's a good video from TCer jstern that also talks about the reaction buffs, specifically highlighting Electro-Charged and how Anemo units like Kazuha greatly benefit from the changes: ruclips.net/video/XcctylX2wHo/видео.html

    • @nkosiezikalala5267
      @nkosiezikalala5267 Месяц назад

      I was about to say, Electro-Charged 'bouta go nuts!

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR Месяц назад +1

      Other big mistake - telling that Chevy team is an overload team... Not enough was said about application and auras, that can be more important than multipliers. Electro-charge will benefit the most and by far, because of it's unique double aura.

  • @teusknight2137
    @teusknight2137 Месяц назад +111

    Kaveh shatter bloom!!

  • @dgmojojojo
    @dgmojojojo Месяц назад +35

    Hoyo: *buff underused underutilized reaction but not crystalize
    Geo char, only have 1 reaction and the worst one: “understandable. Have a good day”

    • @thomaspq3447
      @thomaspq3447 Месяц назад +3

      Geo also have shatter lol

    • @zawarudo225
      @zawarudo225 Месяц назад

      @@thomaspq3447 Ayaka joined the chat: Bruh, my ult keeps shattering, so I took that from geo too

    • @rawrmonster6782
      @rawrmonster6782 9 дней назад

      also hoyo buff superconduct while completely forgetting nobody uses it outside of physical and they didn't buff any physical aspect of it so its still one of the worst reactions in the game.

  • @stryfer1989
    @stryfer1989 Месяц назад +79

    I'm thinking this is mostly for Chasca. Her playstyle seems a good basis for reaction soup and these buffs are across the board trying to make every reaction somewhat meaningful. Since she doesn't really want a DMG% goblet, perhaps EM can be justified now?

    • @RKNancy
      @RKNancy Месяц назад +8

      It's for Mavuika as well.

    • @SøulSapien
      @SøulSapien Месяц назад +15

      Yea probably that's it!! Because her reactions involve cryo, hydro, electro, pyro, and anemo reactions!! And her kit revolve around that too

    • @sandz000
      @sandz000 Месяц назад +18

      the right answer is neuvilette electrocharge of course

    • @anddad
      @anddad  Месяц назад +5

      EM appears actually usable, but I think ATK is a better recommendation

    • @SøulSapien
      @SøulSapien Месяц назад

      @@anddad crit value is important too since her weapon has crit rate

  • @shikharkasera5167
    @shikharkasera5167 Месяц назад +56

    Another neuvillette buff, Now I can finally play him! Thank you, Hoyo!

    • @ezekielshorizon6
      @ezekielshorizon6 Месяц назад

      Wait can someone fill me in on this meme I keep seeing it

    • @h4ll0_52
      @h4ll0_52 Месяц назад +32

      @@ezekielshorizon6 neuvilette is just insanely strong and was strong since he was released, but they keep releasing more characters that make his teams stronger. So people joke ironically that he needed these buffs

    • @ezekielshorizon6
      @ezekielshorizon6 Месяц назад

      @@h4ll0_52 ahhh okay thanks

    • @parash993
      @parash993 Месяц назад

      Beidou!!

  • @terrythewol7970
    @terrythewol7970 Месяц назад +57

    I will say I always like how detailed your content is. If you think you are being boring because you are going into number crunching territory, you aren't, at least to me it is very interesting.

  • @KahlevN
    @KahlevN Месяц назад +290

    WELCOME TO THE FREMINENT ERA EVERYONE.

    • @cucumbercytus
      @cucumbercytus Месяц назад +62

      I really want Shatter to trigger when you freeze unfreezeable enemies. That would be huuuge

    • @KahlevN
      @KahlevN Месяц назад +18

      @@cucumbercytus It absolutely should, in fact, only actual bosses should ever be completely immune. Other enemies should only ever get temporary immunity like in every other game with those kinds of hard CC's, where they either take longer to build up, or trigger a cooldown that gets longer each time or something.
      Either way, I want to try out a supercharged/shatter team with Frem just for kicks and see what happens.

    • @walnutlover6510
      @walnutlover6510 Месяц назад +1

      I already forgot how to play him despite maxing his build.

    • @mikofanboy9711
      @mikofanboy9711 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@KahlevN or they could make frozen work as a debuff on boss, maybe slow their movement down? while also keep the frozen aura on them so it can be shatter later

    • @anthonyzhu5389
      @anthonyzhu5389 Месяц назад +8

      @@mikofanboy9711exactly if we just have freeze status activate; it doesn’t matter if the enemy is frozen or not, so my Ayaka can crit

  • @ashen4195
    @ashen4195 Месяц назад +38

    It’s time for Shatterbedo

    • @jyusatsu
      @jyusatsu Месяц назад +4

      "Witness my great undertaking!"

    • @nicks.857
      @nicks.857 Месяц назад +1

      Shatter-bloom Kaveh propaganda

    • @TioNumber124
      @TioNumber124 Месяц назад +1

      Shatter sayu with chungus go brr xd

    • @sup-md1mo
      @sup-md1mo Месяц назад

      Shatbedo

  • @res6148
    @res6148 Месяц назад +33

    The shatter and superconduct buffs definitely arent enough
    unless someone like citlali will abuse the heck out of shatter or superconduct

    • @Archflip
      @Archflip Месяц назад +10

      The funny thing is they can buff shatter all they like, but until they actually make it able to affect bosses who can't be frozen, it will always be mostly useless.

    • @javelinmaster2
      @javelinmaster2 Месяц назад

      ​@@Archflipthe issue is just that Freeze is way to busted for it to be buffed

    • @letrying2633
      @letrying2633 Месяц назад +12

      Just really want yhem to make the freeze state with the Actual frozen debuff be separate (where they are technically frozen without needing to be actually frozen)

    • @res6148
      @res6148 Месяц назад +2

      @@Archflip they can just make it so it just skips to shatter instantly for bosses

    • @jmrc.392
      @jmrc.392 Месяц назад

      Consider kaveh shatter bloom, I think it will be atleast decent against non bosses

  • @S3tsuna1
    @S3tsuna1 Месяц назад +12

    I just want them to make Overload reaction crits like what it supposed to. Like come on if there's an elemental reaction that looks like a critical hit it's an explosion. It's crazy that a reaction between fire and electro doesn't crit

  • @nicks.857
    @nicks.857 Месяц назад +3

    A buff for Kaveh‘s shatter-bloom teams and i am here for it. Since you build a lot of em on him it should work.

  • @99ersify
    @99ersify Месяц назад +17

    you kind of forgot an important point (+ a minor bonus one at the end) , overvapes and other combo of reactions: in overvapes setups you assure that the unit applying pyro triggers the overload because both hydro and electro auras stop pyro from sticking and wipe it in one go if it did stick somehow. there's also the less common overload-burning mix like when using an electro unit to snuff out burning in burgeon teams with overloads, it might be worth it to run beidou with as much EM as she can get in burgeon teams now like a thoma beidou xingqiu baizhu or thoma beidou nahida kokomi team for example.
    Now for the bonus there is a somewhat reliable way to trigger a lot of shatter that's easy to forget since it's a combo we are used to subconciously avoid, geo on frozen tends to shatter instantly so there's potential here too since frozen only consume half of the hydro, that's the basis of the fridge combo to get more blooms out of a dendro aura. probably never going to be meta but something like noelle kazua furina + cryo might be fun? also the strange clorinde skyward blade team might get an unexpected buff now that I think about it with something like clorinde layla furina + flex.
    edit: i forgot xilonen and her easy res shread that might open up the road for more overload focused teams like full em fischl/clorinde/heizou/sayu driven teams like a fischl xiangling xilonen + venti/sucrose/kazuha team because with overload near hyperbloom in multipliers their ability to trigger them every 0.5sec might start to look good

    • @haydenz0
      @haydenz0 Месяц назад

      I think the biggest hurdle for Shatter and physical is that physical has zero buffering effects. Like Cinder City artifacts don't buff physical. Xilonen doesnt buff physical. It's so strange why they purposely leave it in the dust.

    • @jyusatsu
      @jyusatsu Месяц назад +2

      ​@@haydenz0then it just proves that devs does Not recognize Physical as an actual element and just exists as a neutral type (similar to how Pokemon have Neutral type like Struggle (this is different to Normal type)).

  • @reyesle6709
    @reyesle6709 Месяц назад +35

    Damnit, if they didn’t remove the physical buff portion from the beta Cinderered Scroll 4pc.
    **Cries in Eula/Xinyan Main**

    • @jono3785
      @jono3785 Месяц назад

      true, still waiting for my freminet's time to shine

    • @haydenz0
      @haydenz0 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah that pissed me off

    • @apurba4578
      @apurba4578 Месяц назад

      I doubt that would've accounted for much

    • @brussailpook8213
      @brussailpook8213 Месяц назад +3

      Physical teams are so forgotten by hoyo, like cool eula can hit big once every 20 secs, while other newer characters 3x her dps in the meantime. They should either put weaker characters like eula, klee, childe and a couple more into the basic wish since their dmg and teamplay is below average. OR buff them, which would be great but they certainly wont, they need the money.

  • @Endymion-qy5bo
    @Endymion-qy5bo Месяц назад +1

    Great news thanks for this valuable info!!

  • @supersonicgood
    @supersonicgood Месяц назад +66

    My Chevreuse C6 and Raiden C6 are winning yet again.

    • @supersonicgood
      @supersonicgood Месяц назад +9

      Also, Iansen better be a top tier Overload unit that takes advantage of high EM.

    • @Zentai_Kun
      @Zentai_Kun Месяц назад +1

      ​@@supersonicgoodHave my doubts on that cause we alrdy got chevreuse for that

    • @wingofshu
      @wingofshu Месяц назад

      Chev, Yanfei, fishel, shogon

    • @mothersday1869
      @mothersday1869 Месяц назад

      ​​@@Zentai_Kunwell I think they mean is iansan as overloaded dps for chevy and so far all 5-stars natlan revolve around pyro reaction probably for mavuika later (and yes i know iansan is rumored to be 4-star but they can change the plan just like they did with sigewinne)

    • @Ryanwithan.r
      @Ryanwithan.r Месяц назад

      way less significant for adc teams, its only significant for units that actually build all in to em

  • @Feathertail2205
    @Feathertail2205 Месяц назад +4

    My speculation is that these transformative reaction buffs are also implemented to make Chasca better since her kit involves shooting anemo + other elemental bullets that will interact with each other on enemies. If Hoyo is not relying on pure raw anemo dmg on her (evidently they're not looking for her to work with Faruzan), then her dmg must come from the reactions that she will enable in her skill. Ofc Chasca is only one out of many beneficiaries of this buff.

  • @lucustwyatt1960
    @lucustwyatt1960 Месяц назад +2

    Like finally, interesting to see how things shake up

  • @weddingjay04
    @weddingjay04 Месяц назад +8

    Its not just Freminet that will get better on shatter but Chongyun as well and all this adjustments are so favorable to our anemo units coz all of these elements and reactions are swirlable that also means having Kazuha on our accounts are better👌

    • @javelinmaster2
      @javelinmaster2 Месяц назад

      Let's not forget about Xilonen who also will buff the damage aswell

    • @weddingjay04
      @weddingjay04 Месяц назад

      @@javelinmaster2 i dont have her so i cant say anything about her buffing it.

    • @jyusatsu
      @jyusatsu Месяц назад

      ​@@javelinmaster2buff the damage of what: cryo or shatter? Xilonen can buff cryo yes but Not shatter or even Physical

    • @javelinmaster2
      @javelinmaster2 Месяц назад

      @@jyusatsu Only the likes of Mika can buff these reactions. Or just go superconduct. Kazu also doesn't buff physical so....

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      Chonyun shatter-hyperbloom. Time to dust off my C6 Chongyun, the boy hasn't seen the lights for 3 years.

  • @jayxen2150
    @jayxen2150 Месяц назад +21

    With this Electro buffs Ororon maybe one of the best Electro unit, he can use the Natlan set with the taser teams and buffing two elements at the same.

    • @bobthehandyman3650
      @bobthehandyman3650 Месяц назад +3

      ye he replaced Beidou in tazer teams for monstruous buffs with natlan set + good damage and lots of electro procs for fischl's A4 too
      Tazer is really going to be META in AOE comps

    • @akarshjv6999
      @akarshjv6999 Месяц назад

      ​@@bobthehandyman3650with 2 opponent abyss scenario, it is better to replace fischl with beidou as beidou damage is ridiculous there.
      Even better run thundering fury ayato with beidou, fischl and ororon and call it a day

    • @Sar--Pandey--00
      @Sar--Pandey--00 Месяц назад

      He can use the cinder city set and buff both xingqui and fischl and chasca driver maybe

    • @JosepiThe13th
      @JosepiThe13th Месяц назад

      ​@@akarshjv6999 Hydro Application = 0 😂

    • @mariachi3217
      @mariachi3217 Месяц назад

      @@JosepiThe13thayato has a pretty wide and fast burst

  • @WhoopiSoulberg
    @WhoopiSoulberg Месяц назад

    Sidenote but wanted to point out as a former Star Rail player (dropped the game just before Penacony) hearing some of the old Star Rail music in the back is a nice bit of nostalgia 🙌

  • @Axterix13
    @Axterix13 Месяц назад +4

    For Overload, I think there are two additional factors to consider:
    1) Staff of Scarlet Sands. Obviously, Cyno. But he's not the only polearm user that can be built to use it. Soluna's favorite Raiden build is what he terms "hybrid Raiden", which is basically a Raiden built for a mix of EM and DMG, ideally using the Staff of Scarlet Sands as her weapon. So that build wouldn't mind the increase at all.
    2) Kuki. People tend to think she's only good with hyperbloom, but that's really not the case. She's designed to be a unit that triggers transformative reactions. It's just that the other transformative reactions were a bit weak and her hp loss on elemental skill use, coupled with only healing on-fielders, leaves her with a lower safety margin than other characters. But even now, she has uses. I run an on-field Dehya team of Dehya, Kuki, Emilie, and Nahida. In that team, my Kuki deals 16k-20k Overloards, depending on where her EM is at. And she deals lots of them, because she can trigger ~11 reactions per 15s, all while also healing from 3.6-4.4k per tick. With this change, my Kuki will gain 6-7k per Overload, so it'll add 50k+ per rotation.
    As for superconduct/shatter, the change will help a bit though. Among the many issues physical suffers from is that applying superconduct frequently is kind of pointless, because it does so little damage. So this helps a bit there, though the app will be an issue, since that's another of physical's problems... low app from limited elements resulting in shields being the single biggest hindrance to phys teams. But as far as shatter goes, a team that shatters will likely also superconduct. I could see a team using either Kuki or an EM Kokomi mixing superconduct, electrocharged, and shatter.
    That said, if they want to fix Superconduct properly, they need to reduce or remove the phys resist shred, and add def debuff to it, while shatter would likely be better if it where changed to work like Spread/Aggravate.

    • @JosepiThe13th
      @JosepiThe13th Месяц назад

      "Hybrid Raiden" is just Quickbloom Raiden. Not sure why he calls it something different lol.

  • @a6501ut3
    @a6501ut3 Месяц назад +2

    It will make the raiden national great again 🥰

  • @sunar2657
    @sunar2657 Месяц назад +8

    I think capitano will be a physical dps but more deadly than eula

    • @Devotchka101
      @Devotchka101 Месяц назад +11

      I agree, I came to this conclusion in the new natlan archon quest. Capitano is a human with no vision. He was given a delusion from taritsa being Cryo. What best suits non vision holders? Physical strength. So it makes sense if he would be a physical dps.

    • @sunar2657
      @sunar2657 Месяц назад +5

      @@Devotchka101 yes and physical suits with his design and aesthetic

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 Месяц назад

      He'll likely get a vision, the same way Furina did.

    • @jetherjohnsim8748
      @jetherjohnsim8748 Месяц назад

      ​@@Axterix13 No, I highly doubt so. Capitano is Khaenrian, which was nuked by Celestia. And Celestia pretty much is the source of visions.

    • @teenagesilver6512
      @teenagesilver6512 Месяц назад +1

      he's litteraly make a sword from ice, wdym physical. I think he is crio infuser. Or maybe some magical hybrid physical +crio

  • @deedeesga34
    @deedeesga34 Месяц назад +2

    the electro charged buffs. holy shit it’s time for taser mets to return!!! chasca taser stand rejoice

  • @danielhounshell2526
    @danielhounshell2526 Месяц назад

    The superconduct and shatter changes together shape up for some pretty interesting buffs potentially. It allows you to build a team based on shatter where every component of that team is affected by this buff. You need three elements to get shatter and buff its damage with superconduct, which also means you're getting electro charge. The really interesting thing about electro charge is that both electro and hydro stay on the enemy. That allows comps like overvape to exist, but now I'm wondering if it's possible to superconduct and freeze at the same time following that principle, then trigger shatter on the next hit. That's something I'll have to test out.
    Overvape also benefits pretty heavily from this as well, since you need to trigger electro charge to make it happen, which has been buffed, and after that you can trigger two of the highest damage reactions on the same hit.
    Edit: superconduct and freeze do trigger together, but the superconduct breaks them out of the freeze, preventing a shatter followup. Mika might have a reason to exist now though. Put some cryo on an enemy with Mika, get your superconduct, then do your freeze setup, ideally with Yelan/Xingqiu and a cryo greatsword character.

  • @Qkochan3
    @Qkochan3 Месяц назад

    i've cleared abyss on candace shatterbloom, this is honestly a huge buff to shatter and teams that use it and can open up more teams to it .

  • @megtrix3647
    @megtrix3647 Месяц назад +1

    Im really excited for shatter with geo teams EM geo is now available

  • @Kmn483
    @Kmn483 Месяц назад +1

    I did some crude dps calculations (varies by team):
    Classic electro-charged teams get a roughly 17% team dps buff from these changes and you want to build more em on XQ and Fischl now. Consider swapping out attack & crit artifact, or weapon. You'll get much less dps increase on teams like Neuv with Fischl (+7% instead) since much less of the team damage is caused by EC.
    Overloaded gets 6% team dps increase and XL should build em sands and circlet, plus em weapon (energy permitting).
    Shatter gets 3.5% team dps increase. Super conduct 2%. Characters barely trigger these reactions. You may see more with making teams specifically for as many procs as possible ig?

  • @NatalyHaldey
    @NatalyHaldey Месяц назад

    Can't believe legendary Tartaglia Taser is coming back! Can't wait to get Ororon and finally give my Childe a new storng team!

  • @alphanightfury1416
    @alphanightfury1416 Месяц назад +2

    Superconduct wriothesley with fischl is ok now but it has a chance to be really good if citlali buffs the reaction somehow

    • @J.Jolteon
      @J.Jolteon Месяц назад

      Wrio + Kuki Shinobu as well

  • @andresfelipegarcia431
    @andresfelipegarcia431 Месяц назад +1

    The Kaveh hiperfridge meta incoming!

  • @lunoxmain4737
    @lunoxmain4737 Месяц назад

    Thanks dad!

  • @dinoboy6632
    @dinoboy6632 Месяц назад

    Tbf the shatter buff could also be something interesting for Wriothesley as he can trigger shatter pretty easily as long as he has a off field hydro unit (Yelan slash Xingqiu) and you want at least some EM on him for melt reactions too so it's not like it would require a different build

  • @connerjessop8422
    @connerjessop8422 Месяц назад

    I’d love a superconduct character like chevruse where just spamming electro and cryo does tons of damage

  • @owlofficial765
    @owlofficial765 Месяц назад

    now shatter feels rewarding for a lot of work to make it happen. But yeah, we wont still see it often knowing the state of freeze on the meta rn

  • @jacquelynthompson5346
    @jacquelynthompson5346 Месяц назад

    I feel like this is actually a pretty decent buff for Eula & Freminet bc both of them could take advantage of both reactions. Like Eula’s best team does include Furina, and so you can Shatter and use Superconduct.

  • @bahjin2683
    @bahjin2683 Месяц назад +1

    Glad it is not my job to balance the scales in this game. Every new character, artifact set changes everything. My head hurts just thinking of all the variables. I think they do a great job considering how fast the game has grown in just a few years.

  • @asafin100
    @asafin100 Месяц назад +1

    Lol if they really wanted to buff shatter and superconduct they’d have to increase the multiplier to 50 or something xD
    I am really curious to see what kit Citlali will have. Cryo really needs a buff, Ororon is coming to help electro charged teams. I really think Freeze teams need some improvement so I was hoping Citlali would be a support / subdps focused on that.

  • @mikofanboy9711
    @mikofanboy9711 Месяц назад +7

    personally I think Shatter should be x3.5 or x4
    I know x3 is the same level as Hyperbloom and Burgeon but those reaction have AoE while shatter isn't, plus for now it doesnt work on boss

    • @haydenz0
      @haydenz0 Месяц назад

      Maybe they plan to buff Freeze so that it applies an aura to unfreezeable enemies that allow shatter to be triggered?

    • @javelinmaster2
      @javelinmaster2 Месяц назад +1

      That would just make Geo units obscene.
      Imagine a fully loaded Navia E triggering that buffed reaction.

    • @apurba4578
      @apurba4578 Месяц назад

      ​@@javelinmaster2shatter scales on EM. Navia shatter would be a dps loss.

    • @HarshitSinghRajput
      @HarshitSinghRajput Месяц назад

      Hyperbloom is not AOE.

    • @mikofanboy9711
      @mikofanboy9711 Месяц назад

      @@HarshitSinghRajput it actually is, but the range is quite small
      Still ì a group of enemies is close enough, they all take damage
      Here is another fun fact
      Just like Burgeon, Hyperbloom also deal damage to player stand in the Hyperbloom range

  • @naotonhan5253
    @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

    I think superconduct is the one we should talk about. It's an aoe reaction that doesn't push enemies apart like overload, doesn't delay dmg like bloom, in fact cryo aura slows enemies down for easier grouping as well, it's downside is the small multiplier, but now it got buffed. So I think it'll shine in aoe contents and in early game. Does it affect late game meta? Don't know yet. But it's a win for cryo applicators like Kaeya, Diona, Rosalia and Ganyu burst support

  • @OrigamiJawny
    @OrigamiJawny Месяц назад +1

    I legit forgot electrocharge and superconduct were even an option

  • @J4rring
    @J4rring Месяц назад

    if they changed shatter to be an amplifying reaction as well then that could potentially be a meta shifting buff

  • @luckysgi-5karrow378
    @luckysgi-5karrow378 Месяц назад +1

    Hrm..... Maybe good if superconduct applied another hit of cryo to keep that on and further increase the effect of being slowed due to cryo... And why hasn't shatter been changed to an amplification reaction that benefits physical and geo yet? Needs a reason to use 3 elements the way hyperbloom's strength is kind of justified.

  • @donnyraams9579
    @donnyraams9579 Месяц назад

    Sounds like they are basicly buffing wriothesley’s charged atk for freeze comps.
    (My current wrioth team has furina, shenhe and c2 xilonen, wich makes him pretty viable, so the extra shatter dmg will be a nice little extra)
    And overload is nice in general. A lot of nice electro and pyro units that can fit together, specially with chevreuse.

  • @Nafets-C
    @Nafets-C 24 дня назад

    Its a huge buff indeed. Although, the shatter reaction might be at the lowest since you need to freeze the enemy before triggering it. With the available enemies in overworld and in the abyss, unfreezable units makes this reaction to be shunned upon

  • @nkosiezikalala5267
    @nkosiezikalala5267 Месяц назад +1

    EM Albedo 'bouta go Nuts!
    Shat'bedo!!

  • @digitalchemist3867
    @digitalchemist3867 Месяц назад

    my new fave team is c2 kaz, raiden, furina, & xilonen. so an electro-charged buff would be nice 😊

  • @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
    @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA Месяц назад +1

    Okay everyone hear me out: Mavuika besides being a off-field pyro applier will buff all pyro related reactions (think C1 Mona and C2 Nahida), i feel like that would make a lot of sense considering Emilie, Mualani, Kinich and Chasca’s gameplay, oh and Citlali…uhhh everyone is saying that she’ll be a shielder but what if she buffs EM? Cryo EM buffer potential? Idfk Citlali could he anything lmao

  • @bobthehandyman3650
    @bobthehandyman3650 Месяц назад +1

    kuki full EM superconduct + shatter meta

  • @anandharamananandh547
    @anandharamananandh547 Месяц назад

    Watch C6 Chasca shotgunning everyone and fill your screen with colourful numbers.
    And with Snezhnaya around the corner, the buffs to superconduct and shattered is expected and I expect that physical damage is gonna get buffed to a degree when Snezhnaya releases.
    And I think Mavuika will make use of the overload buff.

  • @willanrac
    @willanrac Месяц назад +1

    I still think geo reaction only needs to increase hp with their shield would make it an amazing reaction.

  • @crocworks
    @crocworks Месяц назад

    RIP burning.. probably the one that needed the buff the most.

  • @avaritia5677
    @avaritia5677 Месяц назад +1

    Chongyun em meta will be insane

  • @mortalkomment7954
    @mortalkomment7954 Месяц назад +1

    Me who has a built clorinde and managed to net myself hella em so my chevreuse teams is actually gonna be evern crazier after this

  • @frankfernandez2690
    @frankfernandez2690 Месяц назад +4

    Natlan the nation of buffing, I'm so happy if this true, I skipped sumeru and fontaine so I don't have any dendro support build, so far got c2 Raiden with c6 chev on recent banner which is a major win, kinich, mualani and Xilonen (wanted nahida but it would take a while to go over sumeru before I could build her + i hate the region), I did all of Natlan first patch to completion and Fontaine at the same time so I got a shit ton of primo gems.

  • @mkazharies2121
    @mkazharies2121 Месяц назад +1

    i think there one guy currently that can be benefit from em overloaded buff ...
    RAZOR EM(crit) SOUP. :V
    that team use nahida, bennet c6, and xingqiu

  • @cdonovan4471
    @cdonovan4471 Месяц назад

    I have a feeling then that Ororon will replace Beidou in the old taser team and perhaps a Hydro DPS/EM Fischl/EM Anemo/Ororon could be a new meta... Or maybe sub one of the 3 with Xingqiu and have Clorinde/Chasca be the carry, but it will be cool to see an electrocharge revival.

  • @brum953
    @brum953 Месяц назад

    Honesty if they just reverted the phys res shred back to def shred on super conduct, the reaction would be fixed. Way more characters could take advantage of it and ppl would use the reaction more

  • @authin5055
    @authin5055 Месяц назад

    if only any of these reaction could multiply the raw dmg..
    but it may still be good we will just have to see

  • @zydeox1221
    @zydeox1221 Месяц назад

    Lol I always avoided using my furina with raiden when exploring, I guess that'll be more convenient then.

  • @elijahswanson619
    @elijahswanson619 Месяц назад

    Oroton being electro change based (I think) it cool because it is getting buffed. Also I love his lore so he will be fun for a electro charge team for fun not meta, unless they release a dps for it that he can work with which I think is likely.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 Месяц назад

      They are releasing a DPS who wants him... Chasca. As a Natlan off-field damage applicator, he'll use the Scroll set to give her the DMG she'll be wanting since she likely won't be using a DMG goblet.

  • @dozydreamstarot
    @dozydreamstarot Месяц назад

    In general all of these updates have increased the variability of one character we all have that most rarely use; Lisa. Lisa in general has a lot of usage for bumping her EM and she does come with a decent 15% dmg res shred with her burst. Now that overloaded is getting increased I imagine she'll be able to make use of some nifty multi-hit overloaded reactions. Of course this also applies to Yae so a win overall for an extra usage for electro catalysts. Will be gamebreaking? Probably not. But they will be better at least especially in co-op when reactions fly through a lot faster with multiple people attacking at once.
    Also, we seem to be getting more fun for taser teams. 🎉
    I think another part of this update is in preparation for the next region as well because its cryo. Cryo related reactions are probably going need a boost aside from melt. Frozen teams don't boost dmg but crit rates so all we have left is superconduct. I kind of wish they would have all the elements interplay with eachother though.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      I think overload teams are indifferent with this buff, because
      1. the team doesn't focus on EM in the 1st place, so switching to EM might hurt the overall team dmg.
      2. We don't have a good enough pyro applicator to constantly procc overload.
      3. Overload pushes enemies apart and could only do 1 instance of dmg at once, even when it's an aoe reaction

  • @TheJuicyTangerine
    @TheJuicyTangerine Месяц назад

    If I were to rework superconduct, I would make it apply a 15% defence reduction on enemies affected, and and physical resistance by 40%. This would make superconduct a potentially desirable reaction in almost every comp, because def shred is so rare. Ever since 1.0, we have only gotten TWO characters that have any defence reduction in their kit, and both from constrllations (Nahida c2, Ayaka C4). Hyperfridge will become incredibly competitive, and even melt teams might consider bringing an electro unit.

    • @killchuiwill2341
      @killchuiwill2341 Месяц назад

      Lisa has defense shred on her burst and C2 Klee has defense shred on her E

  • @z7_gallego
    @z7_gallego Месяц назад

    1:30 If anyone still doesn't get it, here it is put simply:
    Superconduct now does the same dmg as Shatter Pre Buff
    Shatter now does the same dmg as Hyperbloom and Burgeon
    Electro-Charged now does the same dmg as Bloom x2
    Overload is now slightly worse than Hyperbloom and Burgeon.

  • @Kindi001
    @Kindi001 Месяц назад +1

    Taser team gonna be more nuts

  • @mashiroinoue
    @mashiroinoue Месяц назад +1

    Shatter Sayu let’s gooo

  • @RoryRose_
    @RoryRose_ Месяц назад

    pretty sure citlali is a catalyst so i doubt she'll do anything for shatter. i just think it'd be weird if she was a shatter buffer who can't actually trigger shatter herself. (though wriothesley can trigger shatter so you never know right?)
    her colour scheme tho?? i'd bet she's a superconduct buffer. i wonder if she'll be used for physical teams or if she'll enable superconduct for superconduct's sake

  • @JFarenci
    @JFarenci Месяц назад

    Superconduct may not be that important, but because you can double proc both that and Freeze you can get a 4.5 multi for units with cryo claymore doing SC Shatter

  • @chyrlserfacal5135
    @chyrlserfacal5135 Месяц назад

    Man, i really like shatter reaction and e.charge but lack dedicated character for it.

  • @KodukoLoL
    @KodukoLoL Месяц назад

    Okay, lets see if 1.1k Em Razor at level 90 with C6 Bennett and XQ (he should trigger overload on himself, the enemies and electro charged too) + C2 Xilonen for perma burst and res shred can clear abyss next patch faster than my top 2% hu tao team lol

  • @VetriVade
    @VetriVade Месяц назад

    I'm so ready for shatter candace

  • @syafiqrauf
    @syafiqrauf Месяц назад +1

    its simple, they buff the reaction just for chasca to swirl billion reaction dmg at once

  • @jaredcullum117
    @jaredcullum117 Месяц назад

    I find I get a lot of shatter reactions with a Eula freeze team, though I'm not sure how much adding em would change things.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  Месяц назад

      yea unfortunately it's still hard to justify building EM on Eula. perhaps its kinda ok as a substat if you get it? but you're gonna be focused still on crit/atk

  • @wanderinggamer5079
    @wanderinggamer5079 Месяц назад

    I wonder if they’ll increase the Phys Res Shred from Super Conduct or just the Damage from the reaction itself?

  • @dominicjannazo7144
    @dominicjannazo7144 Месяц назад +1

    Tome to try Shatterbloom Candace again!

  • @oppressed
    @oppressed Месяц назад +1

    Isn't Wriotheslay's punches actually considered shatter? This will drive him to one of the best DPS in the game.

  • @kuvrut7747
    @kuvrut7747 Месяц назад

    As I understood. Ororons kit, he buffs on field hydro/electro atk for example Ayato/Clorinde... when they are triggering EC. He would not buff Sucrose.

  • @GReyn
    @GReyn Месяц назад

    SHATTER = Kaveh Shatterbloom..
    It is sad to see that Kaveh is forgotten..

  • @martir851
    @martir851 Месяц назад

    You speak well ❤

  • @PenguinDust1969
    @PenguinDust1969 Месяц назад

    Time to go back and farm Guilded Dreams again.

  • @Arrmorant
    @Arrmorant Месяц назад +1

    Hyperfridge teams with Eula/Razor/Freminet might become stronger. Due to the hyperbloom requiring high EM, other electro-related reaction can also be boosted having a domino-effect with the addition of buffed shatter multiplier. Not meta but can clear the abyss much faster.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      The biggest claymore user winner is actually Chongyun

    • @Arrmorant
      @Arrmorant Месяц назад +1

      @@naotonhan5253 On hyperfridge team, not really. Eula exists and besides I'm talking about physical-centered claymore users because of buffed superconduct multipliers. Constant cryo will just steal most hydro aura and produce few bloom cores and will ruin the team.

    • @darkmori8526
      @darkmori8526 Месяц назад

      @@naotonhan5253 Thejonathan's dummy account confirmed lmao. Chongyun is mid right from the beginning, his National team (one of his best team) ain't even that great. He's not even a physical dps, what do you think shatter and superconduct multiplier buffs will do to him? Freminet and Eula exists, stop the cap.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      @@Arrmorant it seems that I need to further explain myself, Chongyun's great not because he's a DPS, it's the opposite. He can infuse cryo with his skill and can afford to build full EM, which will be great for the buffed superconduct and shatter reaction, not to mention he has a nice 15% cd reduction to buff the team. Other claymore users more or less want to build ER to use their burst so they can't really go all in 1k EM. Razor could go full EM but he's burst dependent. About the elemental gauge for hypershatter, I think it'll need testing to see.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      @@darkmori8526 now now, I don't think Chongyun is great before. It's the new reaction buff that might affect him the most, since he's a support and could care less about building Atk or ER, so he can commit to full EM without much loss in dmg. So a team like Chongyun Xingqiu Kuki and Nahida might be his next best team, hyperbloom and shatter along with some superconduct. Freminett will need more testing but he'll need to build ER , Eula doesn't get anything out of these buffs since she can't build EM and her cryo apps is non existence

  • @oOohio
    @oOohio Месяц назад +1

    This means that national teams are also getting buff woooo

  • @mastazenkei
    @mastazenkei Месяц назад

    They should make freeze slow by 99% instead , so it works with bosses , for shatter teams

  • @pakuro64
    @pakuro64 Месяц назад

    Hear me out
    Citlali. Cryo shield and superconduct sub-dps, similar to what Emilie is for burning.
    Slap Citlali with Eula or Freminet
    Profit
    (Probably not, but a man can dream lol)

  • @mastazenkei
    @mastazenkei Месяц назад +1

    Basically for now , without new artifacts and characters , these buffs will just make strong teams stronger , there is no reason to run a superconduct team when hyperfridge exists , shatter will be a meme mostly ( shatter Itto , Albedo and Candace ) electrocharged was solid but overshadowed by quickbloom , now they will be mostly the same .

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      That's the thing, it opens up more teamcomps and you are encouraged to try different reactions without being punished. Why stop at hyperfridge, throw in a claymore user like Kaveh/Chongyun/Razor and go hypershatter. And superconduct never stands alone, it will go hand in hand with shatter, so we're talking about double reactions that both have increased dmg, better than quickbloom? I think not, but it could be close enough to tryout.

    • @mastazenkei
      @mastazenkei Месяц назад

      @@naotonhan5253 hard to make a shatter team with electro in the team , but we'll see , I'll be trying out weird comps

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      @@mastazenkei since hydro and electro can coexist on the enemies for a brief time, it's easy to procc both freeze and superconduct, the same way overvape team works. You'll need a quick hydro apps like Xingqiu or Yelan though

  • @CherryMK_6
    @CherryMK_6 Месяц назад

    I wonder how good the sub dps for EM Kuki in a Chevy team will be

  • @re.n8208
    @re.n8208 Месяц назад

    As if Kazuha and Anemo supports in general needed a buff lol...
    Physical is in a disastrous state tbh...
    For shatter it's interesting on paper because it's also a geo reaction, but they need to allow freeze and shatter on bosses for it to be worthwhile. I'm not after the crowd control effect, that's be broken, just an invisible freeze/shatter availability. Tbh an EM Geo team doing strong crystallize/shatter dmg would be super interesting and would feel so different from what we've got before.
    Allowing other reactions to proc shatter could be a fun thing to (iirc it's the case already but not sure)
    I feel there were other priorities. And I hope they find a way to balance the meta a bit. Making reactions feel better is great because these days I tend to play braindead mono teams that deal massive amounts of dmg with little efforts... But reactions are kinda the signature of this game and it's so bad it's not doing more...
    My issue here is that Anemo support were already in a great place despite Natlan and they certainly didn't need to be even more key. I'm sure there are other things to tweak about reactions than multiplier (gauges, new resonances, property of those reactions themselves etc...) ... Something that would actually help units that kinda need it be more relevant.
    So instead of being salty for a Kazuha buff I should be happy Chasca and Sucrose are benefitting from it too...
    If Chasca scaled with EM she'd probably be a crazy unit too. Sounds like they're not ready for that tho.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, buffing shatter means Geo also gets an indirect buff, not much but it still counts. I think if the decide to look into shatter reaction, they will fix the whole bosses are immune to freeze so they can't be shattered, but let's not put our hope up yet.
      Shatter are triggered by blunt attacks, so even Klee charged shot can procc it, that caused a big problem back in the day iirc, since you want to melt the charged shot, not shatter.
      EM is Anemo strong point, so any buffs to reactions mean Anemo wins again, that's unavoidable, but at least Geo could build EM now

  • @dp8460
    @dp8460 Месяц назад

    Shatter damage should be computed like spread or aggravate to be honest.. since this damage heavily relies on physical dps.. or they could have change its mechanic.. superconduct should have resistance shred from cryo and electro.. same with over load.. resistance shred to pyro and electro.. then shatter with physical shred.. this way shatter can can focus on freeze and physical.. and will never rely on electro for physical shred.. since electro removes the cryo status of enemies making cryo resonance useless..

  • @haydenz0
    @haydenz0 Месяц назад

    Not sure on the differences in reaction damage calc, but Superconduct having the same multiplier as reverse Vape and reverse Melt might make it viable?

    • @erronblack3462
      @erronblack3462 Месяц назад

      it is a tranformative reaction while vape is amping reaction superconduct will deal the same amount of damage regardless of your characters multiplier while vape multiplies your characters damage so not its a worthless change practically that won't even account for 1% of team dps

  • @landa759
    @landa759 Месяц назад

    im so excited xd

  • @exploreevery
    @exploreevery Месяц назад +2

    Waaaaaait isn't this only for imaginarum theatre ?

  • @kattostudio3874
    @kattostudio3874 Месяц назад

    I wanna play electro charge teams 😍

  • @adastra5295
    @adastra5295 Месяц назад

    Artifact hoarders rejoice! Your 90 EM piece is no longer relegated to being a hyperbloom offpiece.

  • @TsuchiGamer06
    @TsuchiGamer06 Месяц назад

    Superconduct buff? Shatter buff? Citlali is definitely gonna start cooking
    But Overload buff is gonna be great for my Clorinde team

  • @Lol-Lol0
    @Lol-Lol0 Месяц назад

    So after the changes which sand main stat do u think is better for fischl equipping stringless? EM or atk℅? Currently running EM is only good when playing aggravate team while atk℅ is the good on overall. But since fischl team usually consist of electro charge and she most of the time trigger it.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  Месяц назад

      i think it still would be main stat ATK to take advantage of all her off-field procs (similar to Ororon). plus with stringless, you have a decent amount of EM already. in addition, if you have an anemo trigger, you ideally want them triggering most of the reactions anyway

  • @lemurcv
    @lemurcv Месяц назад

    NINGGUANG BUFFS NEXT WHOS WITH ME!!!.... guys where is everyone going?

  • @no-do4pv
    @no-do4pv Месяц назад +2

    Raiden National buff

  • @lordtouchme
    @lordtouchme Месяц назад

    Watch Shatter do Hyperbloom amount of numbers

  • @RuanRicardoNN
    @RuanRicardoNN Месяц назад +1

    WELCOME TO EM RAZOR ERA MY GUYS

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      Razor hyperburgeon is already a thing back in 3.x so building EM Razor is not that new

    • @RuanRicardoNN
      @RuanRicardoNN Месяц назад

      @@naotonhan5253 It's not a question of being new. It's a question of being better, since it will directly buff 2 reactions that it always produces, those being Overload and Electro-charged.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Месяц назад

      @@RuanRicardoNN why stop at 2, throw in a dendro to make a mess of hyperbloom-burgeon-overload

    • @グレン-u7d
      @グレン-u7d Месяц назад

      what artifacts would be best for him?

  • @Zander-csvcsv298
    @Zander-csvcsv298 Месяц назад +1

    The buffs are probably for Chasca since she can do all those reactions