When Two Teammates Bully the Breakaway | Vuelta a España 2022 Stage 5

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Stage 5 of Vuelta a España 2022.
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Комментарии • 94

  • @zakviney2343
    @zakviney2343 Год назад +139

    I learnt 10x more about this stage from 7 minutes of LR highlights vs 26 minutes of GCN+

    • @davidferguson6956
      @davidferguson6956 Год назад +10

      Not wrong mate only place to be for proper cycling insight

    • @seanwhite1023
      @seanwhite1023 Год назад +12

      @@atticushexcel9567 old GCN got me into cycling new GCN is unwatchable

    • @benfolds17
      @benfolds17 Год назад

      GCN sucks donkey balls... they're ten times more into "social justice" than cycling. Unwatchable dross!

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda Год назад

      @@atticushexcel9567 " people are mindless". Are you talking about GCN staff or their viewers or both? Personally I think both.

    • @LittleBU96
      @LittleBU96 Год назад +1

      I mean the epic rides series is good in my opinion

  • @chrisko6439
    @chrisko6439 Год назад +83

    Molard probably rode at a false tempo when he pulled in the last kilometres. With Soler up the road and guys like Impey and Arndt coming back, it made it much more hard for Wright to take enough bonus seconds at the finish to take the red jersey from Molard. Molard said so in the post-race interview (that the comeback of Impey and Arndt was good for his goal).

  • @tekesbur
    @tekesbur Год назад +15

    Man, chasers could almost touch Soler’s rear wheel but he never panicked on either side of the final climb. Gutsy win for him. Chapeau!

  • @heinzhorstl6890
    @heinzhorstl6890 Год назад +16

    It would be really cool if you could put the stage profil of the stage of the next day into the video, so that the viewers can already know what to expect. Would be very much appreciated.

  • @ianstelzner7205
    @ianstelzner7205 Год назад +8

    I lost it at, "just launched it into the crowd." oh man that's hilarious

  • @uhis1686
    @uhis1686 Год назад +21

    honestly if we get this kinda racing on medium stages im here for it. great fun!

  • @Anton_Schusler
    @Anton_Schusler Год назад +27

    Very impressed by Langellotti today. Getting points on every climb and taking the KOM jersey. Is that a first grand tour jersey for a Monegasque rider?

  • @epincion
    @epincion Год назад +1

    Thanks LR great to see a battle among the up & coming new(er) riders

  • @chrisko6439
    @chrisko6439 Год назад +50

    I wonder if Movistar would give a bidon to Carapaz and whether he would take it ;)

    • @Michael00000001
      @Michael00000001 Год назад

      Confused. Wasn't there a rule that you are not allowed to give water to a different team?

    • @King_Ears
      @King_Ears Год назад +5

      @@Michael00000001 bidons are fine afaik

    • @wojta610cz5
      @wojta610cz5 Год назад +1

      Movistar is the only team he won a GT in, so i think he would take it.

    • @marcfarrelly5944
      @marcfarrelly5944 Год назад +4

      Happens all the time, miss a bottle and get lucky another team offers one in the feed section , particularly when you are not I the bunch.

  • @mar_man813
    @mar_man813 Год назад +7

    Should've given Movistar some credit in the photo op -- they always know how to help other squads win :D

  • @johnrodriguez8253
    @johnrodriguez8253 Год назад +3

    I very much enjoy your recaps. Thank you! 👍🏻👍🏻😃

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 Год назад +1

    Awesome for Soler. Such a great personality and rider.

  • @handlebard
    @handlebard Год назад +11

    Tactics today all part of the beauty that makes a grand tour with multiple teams/individual goals - but good luck anyone trying to explain the subtleties to someone who doesn't follow cycling.

  • @JDMthwmn
    @JDMthwmn Год назад

    Great coverage and analysis!

  • @dorincucos2197
    @dorincucos2197 Год назад +26

    I just want to know the story of the bidon - all i can say is that with 21.9km to go Soler still had his UAE bidons, but he was raising his hand back at the cars for something; and that with 20.1km to go the Movistar bidon was in place.

    • @MarkBurghouwt
      @MarkBurghouwt Год назад +1

      Maybe some illegal stuff in there, so that’s why they tossed in into the crowd 😳. Just kidding hahaha would be very weird

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda Год назад

      @@MarkBurghouwt I never thought about this. There are drugs that are not allowed in the *rider*, but could they punish someone for just for having those drugs in a bidon?

    • @Thom4aa4s
      @Thom4aa4s Год назад +2

      ​@@HweolRidda Bruh, what ?

    • @RoelThijs
      @RoelThijs Год назад +2

      I was under the impression it's not allowed to help other teams. Also you don't take bidons from other teams or spectators as they could be contaminated with illegal substances.

    • @yanisbocken6110
      @yanisbocken6110 Год назад

      I reckon soler took the bidon by accident given he was riding for Movistar before his move to UAE

  • @gianinil
    @gianinil Год назад

    What a win for Soler! Impressive.

  • @callengoldsmith1390
    @callengoldsmith1390 Год назад +8

    Soler looks like Thomas

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs Год назад +1

      Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Confused me for a second with his post-race interview (until he opened his mouth).

  • @mototaco2132
    @mototaco2132 Год назад +7

    I didn't notice the Moviestar water bottle on Marc until you pointed it out.

  • @sean7098
    @sean7098 Год назад +3

    Soler using Almeida tactics🥶
    Van Wilder is pretty much Remco's only domestique right now, not sure what has happened to the rest of the team

  • @TheFloridaBikeVlogger
    @TheFloridaBikeVlogger Год назад

    that bottle pull/toss was so pro

  • @aalamsulski8631
    @aalamsulski8631 Год назад +1

    loving your videos, would be really interesting to see the process that goes into making them!

  • @rickrichardson1141
    @rickrichardson1141 Год назад +2

    good eye on the Movistar bidon

  • @pachr
    @pachr Год назад +2

    I wonder if uae DS was shouting "la fuga de la fuga" or "venga esos cajones" in Soler's earpiece xD

  • @stefankucera3615
    @stefankucera3615 Год назад +25

    The group behind Soler, stop pedaling and chasing him, when they had him im pocket. Some 2km to go..unbelievable..Then they sprinted for second place...lol

    • @leendeen8745
      @leendeen8745 Год назад +3

      The group was no group at that point- just individuals with their own wants.

    • @stefankucera3615
      @stefankucera3615 Год назад +3

      @@leendeen8745 true but ridiculous

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад +5

      This is one reason cycling tactics are so interesting. Putting in an effort to catch up to first place usually insures that you won't win. That's why you need a teammate to sacrifice their own chances at winning.
      In a large group, there's usually at least one guy you don't want to win, so having the entire group lose is okay.

    • @leendeen8745
      @leendeen8745 Год назад

      ….well let’s go with your explanation: they all just stopped pedaling and chasing for no reason…

    • @stefankucera3615
      @stefankucera3615 Год назад

      @@leendeen8745 one stop pedsling ane chasing the first from bahrain and the others like sheeps behind him and till then, they had it and quickly let the gap down, under controlle all for another participate to chase Soler down...and Soler says thank you and bye☺

  • @dib487
    @dib487 Год назад

    That some bottle flip there

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian Год назад

    great win but what was he doing with a moviestar bottle ?

  • @jeromejacob
    @jeromejacob Год назад

    what's funny is that Fred Wright and Jake Stewart train together in the Peak District...

  • @HeidiLandRover
    @HeidiLandRover Год назад

    Good spot on the bidon!
    Also: has Jala been to the barber's?

  • @markusdel9704
    @markusdel9704 Год назад

    is pogacar and vinegaard in this tour? have not heard about them from these recaps yet

  • @valgalloway6914
    @valgalloway6914 Год назад +2

    A Spanish winner - Wow!!

  • @jungmo7576
    @jungmo7576 Год назад +3

    soler looks like a spanish version of G

  • @King_Ears
    @King_Ears Год назад +20

    Fred Wrights day will come soon and when it does I think the flood gates will open

    • @sldulin
      @sldulin Год назад +3

      I get that sense too. Probably my fave of young Brit riders. Wish he were on another team tho.

  • @joriszsz95
    @joriszsz95 Год назад

    Is this your fulltime job?

  • @a.sarmiento5116
    @a.sarmiento5116 Год назад +2

    Seems like he has not moved on from Moviestar😆✌️

  • @pandate2036
    @pandate2036 Год назад

    More UCI points for Israel with the Impey 2nd place

  • @colemcmahon7676
    @colemcmahon7676 Год назад +1

    LLLLAAAAWWWWSOOOONNN CCCCCRAAAAADOOOCKKKK
    AUSTIN TEXAS REPRESENT!

  • @ghettoqueue
    @ghettoqueue Год назад

    same tactics, the GC will take the jersey at stage 17

  • @Jan_ne
    @Jan_ne Год назад +1

    The disrespect towards RIEGNING WORLD CHAMPION Nikias Arndt...
    Not one mention until the results

  • @nathantang9964
    @nathantang9964 Год назад +1

    Why wouldn’t wright make Soler pace in the beginning? He basically got a free ride for no reason

    • @edt6488
      @edt6488 Год назад +1

      I think Wright wanted the red jersey and his only threat was Molard. Molard only had to finish in the same group as Wright to get the red jersey, so could just sit on Wright's wheel until the end. Therefore, Wright needed to put time on Molard.
      If Wright had just sat on Soler's wheel, it would have been likely Molard would have sat on his, which doesn't help him get the red jersey.
      I think the only opportunity Wright had was to follow Soler when he started breaking away from the group, but I suspect the reason he didn't was because he didn't have the strength then.

  • @fitzmaurice88
    @fitzmaurice88 Год назад +1

    Movistar gave Soler more support in going for the stage than when he rode for them! :P

  • @norxus9203
    @norxus9203 Год назад +7

    How come the GC guys gave 4 min? I know they arent a threat but isnt this a lot? Roglic even lost the jersey for now

    • @Fragrasadi3175
      @Fragrasadi3175 Год назад +13

      If Molard is in great shape he could stay top 10. But 4 minutes are not enough for him. From now Jumbo don't have to take the race in charge, or if they have to, they will get some help from GFDJ.

    • @germanlondono8700
      @germanlondono8700 Год назад +7

      It is not a lot. Teams have a deep knowledge on who to pick battles with, and they know that, in a 3-week race, those 4 minutes are not a lot against Mollard or Wright.

    • @adrianbuck8772
      @adrianbuck8772 Год назад +6

      4 Minutes are not a lot considering the Situation. Tomorrow is an mountain finish with an long climb. Given how exausted Molard is the top GC guys are gonna get atleast 2 Minutes back in think.

  • @danielduvernay3207
    @danielduvernay3207 Год назад +1

    Jumbo Visma Fans and others, do you think it was a tactical move to get rid of the red jersey? As in if no breaks had gone would they have kept Roglic in the front?

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад +2

      Jumbo was focused on other GC contenders, so keeping Roglic even with them was the goal for the day. The stage profile was lumpy enough to tire out sprinters, so it favored a break-away -- basically, guys who had decent overall skills, not specialists in climbing or sprints, but perhaps TT. Jumbo was happy to give these guys 4-5 minutes, as these riders will be losing 10-20 minutes in each mountain stage; this allowed Jumbo riders to save some energy.
      With no break, Jumbo would pace as slowly as possible, until either another team decided to pace or a break formed. If the break never got far, they'd get caught near the end, leading to either a new break or a scrambled finish, with teams trying to find who still had good legs. In this case, Jumbo would have to let Roglic do whatever, as safety is smart but not fun.
      By the last week, riders will be more exhausted and breaks will be smaller and weaker. But at the moment, riders are feeling peppy, so it takes more effort to keep them down. Meanwhile, a smart GC team is conserving energy.

  • @Foster_B
    @Foster_B Год назад +45

    Bicycle

  • @_powerrranger
    @_powerrranger Год назад +3

    Launching that Movistar bottle into the crowd wasn't very slick like wtf- IT could've hit some kid and which would've been better PR...

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад +1

      Yeah, but Movistar would have taken the blame -- that's why it's genius!😁
      Riders are always tossing empty bottles into the crowd -- it's genuine pro gear!

    • @marcvb3364
      @marcvb3364 Год назад +1

      @@icollectstories5702 yeah, but they usually throw them at the feet of the crowds, not heads.

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад

      @@marcvb3364 Usually, but tricky while you're in the middle of the peloton. You found the toss risky; I don't: there was a nice arc to it. I dunno if it was completely empty although I hope so.

  • @davidcarroll4150
    @davidcarroll4150 Год назад

    👋

  • @stephenbarrett8861
    @stephenbarrett8861 Год назад +2

    Fred Wright needs to loose a bit more time before he gets in breaks.

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs Год назад

      He was in the break today?

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад +1

      @@ManWalksDogs I think the point is that if he weren't a GC threat, he'd be treated better in the breaks. OTOH it's hard to gain the leader's jersey without being a GC threat.🤷‍
      On the third hand, maybe he should have dropped Molard.😁

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs Год назад +1

      @@icollectstories5702 so a bit deeper into the vuelta once JV recall their jersey loan. He's definitely capable of a stage victory (whether marked or not) and I'm confident we'll see it in this GT.

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад

      @@ManWalksDogs It's a sport, so we're not supposed to know what will happen. If he wants to try again, he'll need to conserve his strength, avoid injury, and hope his conditioning is solid. If you are a pessimist, you can't tolerate waiting.
      Meanwhile, we watch!

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Год назад +2

      Hi, I'm from the future. On the next stage, Fred Wright tried really hard and lost 26 minutes. So none of the GC teams care about him anymore. So, he's free to fly!

  • @ufoisback5088
    @ufoisback5088 Год назад +1

    I really don't get how TJV let's anyone create a 4 min gap to them on GC

    • @LanterneRougeCycling
      @LanterneRougeCycling  Год назад +14

      Molard will lose bulk time to Roglic in the TT and Sierra Nevada

    • @adrianbuck8772
      @adrianbuck8772 Год назад +1

      @@LanterneRougeCycling Also tomorrow. He is exausted. Long climb. Jumbo is gonna push really hard.

    • @marcfarrelly5944
      @marcfarrelly5944 Год назад +3

      By understanding the long game and that it will be almost completely negated in the next day or two

    • @Ivan-nu2um
      @Ivan-nu2um Год назад +4

      Molard is not a threat for Roglic

    • @morganconey4814
      @morganconey4814 Год назад

      More interesting was those who may be targeting a top 20 GC finish sat back like deer in headlights when TJV & Ineos decided today was a recovery ride. They might find Wright or Molard sitting on their wheel in the 3rd week when they are trying to move up the GC 😂