You can see the flashbacks on her face and I feel for her so deeply. My mother and other witnesses keep trying to pull me back in; I watch videos like these to stay deprogrammed. I appreciate this very much. Thank you.
@@gcsoulsurfer I started walking out of the hall and asking questions about contradictions when i was 14 and then stopped going mostly when i was 16-17. I've gone to a couple of memorials and half days of the conventions or assemblies since then, but I have no intention of going back. That's why I keep watching videos like these. My boyfriend asked me why I watch or listen to this stuff all the time and I had to explain the way I was raised and how hard it is to stay away. Just have to keep fighting to stay deprogrammed. Thank you for responding 🖤
Please, no matter how hard those strings pull at your heart when they use those manipulative techniques. It is not safe and all we can do is stay strong because those same family will need us when, hopefully, this religion is crumbled and broken. I don't look forward to seeing the pain when they realize all the pain the religion is causing and we will need to be there for them even for those we would feel like well when were there for me but don't be selfish they expect that. Don't show them the evil and unkindness they expect, show them the love and warmth we weren't. I hope that all makes since. I know what I'm trying to say but not always good at explaining it to others.
I appreciate y'all for the kind words and response 🖤 thank you. I keep watching and talking to stay away. It's been easier for me than it has for a lot of others since I'm mostly faded away, but still y'all know how hard it is when faced with indoctrination. I'll keep watching the people that have left and keep myself from back into this. I've looked at so many things and watched so much that has opened my eyes....I've read all the old books, watched all the old videos, still have a lot of the "old light" books and it still took me watching videos like these to understand just how screwed up they are.
I'm a born in JW n Disassociate at 22 now I'm 64 n I watch alot of the Ex- JW community U-tube videos which stands to reason Y because it helps "Me" to understand I'm not the Crazy one it's them ( WT JW'S) who definitely is !!!...😲😱🤭🤫😁
What an articulate young woman and very brave to tell her story. This was a most compelling interview. Thank you Jana for being so open and sharing some very painful memories. All the best as you move forward!
Wow GREAT Job Jana as a former Elder and JW for thirty years born in. Great job handling those guys. They were baiting you to say you read material elsewhere, but you stood tall by not giving in they were trying get you, with the idea to disfellowshipped you. I was an elder trust me. Your awesome. I’m glad We ALL are finally happy. Love you John.
Watching this yesterday finally convinced me to become a patron. I've never been a JW but so much of your content resonates deeply with me and gives me comfort.
Same here. I became a patron too. I have not thankfully been a JW. I think non-JW members should watch these videos too. Hopefully, they will serve as a warning to non-JWS. Love your channel, Lloyd. I'm addicted.
Wow. What an incredible story. I have watched it several times. Thank you so much Jana for sharing. You are incredibly strong. You have survived so much, including definitely a very strong theme of narcissistic abuse from your father and ex fiancé along and others. You are an inspiration and I wish you a wonderful life.
Jana, you are very courageous and intelligent young lady. I'm sorry that you have suffered so much, but thank goodness you are out of this evil cult. Your courage and bravery will be an example to those still trapped inside the cult and help them to escape. You are free to do what you like. I take my hat off to you.
You're not alone Jana, I lied to my grandmother as well. She said almost the exact same thing to me weeks before she past. I was just about fully awake. My thought was, why upset her at this point.
I can relate, I was never sexually abused but I was physically abused for years. I finally couldn't take it anymore so I went to the Elders told them of the almost every single day beatings I was living with and the elders turned to my mother asked what she had to say she started balling and said "I guess I've been to hard on her" .... Then the elders said "ok well we have to go we will come check back in a couple days" my heart fell into my stomache I couldn't believe I had just told them this woman was beating me within an inch of my life and instead of helping me they were going to leave me alone with her after I have told on her. I was soooo scared and what I feared happened she beat me and told me I better tell them I made it up so when they came back I did. Those men could have helped me they could have called the police or something but instead I was left to endure years and years more of physical beatings until I couldn't take it anymore and ran away from home. It's not right!!!!
I’ve been watching for months .i was a single parent ,a firefighter that was civilian and worked on a millitary base for 10 years .i was told to quit my job and everything in my life went downhill .and at the end and I confronted my elder he said “ it was your decision” ignoring the fact he threatens me with disassociating myself which I was told later is not even a thing .
I'm so very impressed by the strength it takes for young ones like her to have the conviction, or I guess the balls so young, to decide on exactly what that conviction of theirs is, and act on it, and then have the strength to speak out. She is helping so many people right now.
This woman has endured a lot of difficulties. Beautiful to watch her and see how strong she is! I simply love how you are not joining her in her (nervous) giggling, as a lot of people would do. For me, that is a sign of you being sincere and respectful. Thank you Lloyd.
Was that DVD the one with the kid who is discouraged from becoming an athlete? I had pivotal experience with that one as well. My highschool teachers and written a letter of recommendation for me to enter art school and were really supportive of my education. I really wanted to do it too! The week I got that letter one of the elders organized a video night for all the youths in the congregation. About 30 of us jammed into his living room and watched this DVD. At the time it was a really good vibe and I was really happy to be part of this group. There was a particular scene where the school coach says to the boy, 'You have a gift, follow your dream', or words to that effect. I almost jumped out of my skin because my art teacher had said those exact words to me earlier that week! Needless to say, my impressionable mind thought that this was Jehovah telling me how to make the decision about my own education. I never attended art school.
An excellent interview Lloyd! You are a great listener and interviewer. Also you are very kind and allowed your guest to talk and share her story. It is also to your credit that so many are coming out of the JW cult in such good shape emotionally and mentally no doubt due to your website JW Survey and this youtube channel and your books. You are saving lives.
Thank you for sharing your experience, Jana. You make me want to share my story. I find it really helps to hear different experiences from people who left the JW cult. I was a pioneer for 7 years and my husband was an MS and we just disassociated in May of this year. Freedom feels so good. Thank you Lloyd for making so many encouraging videos to help people think for themselves!
Way to go Jana! You did it!! Congratulations and belated Happy Birthday to you! (And Lloyd too!) Lloyd, your books and videos helped my husband and me after we decided we were going to leave, as well. We sent our DA letters just before the July 4th holiday, so Independence Day here in the US has been given a new meaning, as corny as that might be. We declared our own independence from cult indoctrination that day, and that’s really at the core of that holiday for us now, and what I really celebrate each year when the date comes around. It’s been three years of peace from JW relatives who’d been allowed to be horribly abusive for far too long, so writing those letters has actually protected our family from further damage from them. I only wish we could’ve written those letters earlier, but as you both said in this video - it’s a process to leave and it takes time. Thank you both for sharing your experiences with us. These things you’ve shared are very meaningful to my family and I, and to so many others who’ve also been in the same boat.
I really enjoyed this... Lloyd u should make this a regular thing .. it must be so hard for people to tell their stories.. well done to this women ❤❤❤ ...
I'm sorry for your experience Jana. It's remarkable how positive and free you are. Good for you on speaking out, even when no one was willing to listen. I hope life outside of the organisation will be much happier and healthier for you!
Thank you for sharing your story! You are strong, amazing and a source of strength. While I’m not DA ...I admire those who take the step that is necessary. It varies from each individual. I also know someone who DA and it was almost an identical convo with the elders and you can really see the programming. It’s sad that people don’t think you can’t come up with the idea that this isn’t the truth on your own. We wake up and some of us look for like minded people to validate those doubts, fears. It’s clear as day though when you really be honest with yourself. Some are strong enough to know they don’t believe. Everyone has their journey and thank you for sharing yours.
My husband has said the same thing about blood fractions that he wouldn't take it. I said... "You listen to them 100%... Then when they say... Yes...it's your decision, then you say no... Makes no sense to me. It is enfuriating." So I agree with Lloyd's comment. I hate this religion with passion. I don't think my husband will ever leave. I've had hope before, I no longer do. 😳
Wonderful interview with a lovely and beautiful soul. I found so much of what she went through relatable. My heart goes out to you for all the heartache you suffered in your youth. So glad you are free and happy now! I also found it so interesting the questions of the Elder after they got your letter. I bet they are keeping a record by number of all the JWs that leave because of "Apostate Propaganda". The way he talked about Apostates as if they are some angry predators waiting to snatch up anyone that comes across their material was just laughable considering how predatory the JW religion is. They literally use peoples grief when they lose a loves one in death to rope them into the religion. Wishing you all the happiness. I hope one day I have the courage to do an interview with Lloyd.
Happy Birthday Jana! So sorry to hear about your horrible childhood experience... Thank you for sharing your story and being SO STRONG. Enjoy your freedom and shape your life as you wish! Good luck to you!
Excellent story but how sad! She is a strong person and am so glad that she connected with you Lloyd and your factual info.. Jana you deserve only happiness. So glad you found Lloyd!!
What a beautiful soul she is, intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate, and brave. I am forever grateful she found her way out to freedom and to find her peace.
Loyd, you are such a lovely host!!!! What a brave girl sharing her story. I must say, she has a wonderful laugh, she laughs often and she brightens a room! She is a breath of fresh air and I know wonderful things in life are waiting for her. Sending you both and your families many well wishes and love ❤️☺️
Ur an inspiration Jana!! Thank u for being so awesome & brave. 2019 is when I began to realize everything & it started with me wanting to be more spiritual and being curious on the history of things & looking up peoples stories on here. U being here today shows ur strength & your presence is appreciated so much ❤️
Well done Jana; anyone raised as a JW had a very strange upbringing but on top of that you had an abusive childhood and still you are such a positive and balanced adult and I really hope you will be a source of inspiration to young people who are going through this. I left over 25 years ago - I was disfellowshipped, which I was absolutely fine with: disassociate or get disfellowshipped - either way you're out, it's still their rules but I was already physically out; went through a few weeks of attending meetings and I remember my last and walked away feeling so free. I didn't come to terms with my former religion until a few years ago when I started watching Lloyd, prompted by seeing the Apostasy film poster on the underground. Now I'm happy to talk about it with friends & colleagues, if asked, slightly complicated by working with a JW and not wanting to upset/offend her. You did so well talking to the elders, I remember finding that hard. They choose the elders to whom you are closest and you don't want to be combative, you just want to walk away with dignity which of course you aren't allowed to do. And comparing leaving the JW's to stop being a Catholic was a bad move by that elder. My partner was raised a Catholic, we can go to midnight mass without any obligation and feel genuinely welcomed. Wishing you all the very best success in the future and of course, thank you Lloyd.
All us x jw understand your anger for all sorts of reasons that this org has and is still messing up people’s lives. But please don’t waste your energy on being angry anymore , Try to forget about the harm and suffering they caused in your life .The best revenge we can do back to them is to show them that they where wrong in showing them we can be happy without there approval. Cause we all know they think that once you leave them you will forever be unhappy and missable in the devil’s hands . 💐
Knowledge and information is the most powerful weapon against Watchtower...which says everything about them. Jana, best wishes for happiness from a kindred spirit.
I did some research on the number 7. Apparently, the Canaanites also attached significance the the number 7. In ancient Ugarit, the king offered 7 sacrifices for 7 days to acquire a child. Basically, they borrowed rituals from their pagan neighbors.
Joana Ester Gonçalves Lins Hmm! Interesting, why is it used in witchcraft? I know in the ancient near east the number was likely based off of the 7 cosmic objects in the sky that represented different gods. Is it similar to that?
What an amazing story from such an intelligent, strong well rounded individual. Jana, I truly hope you live the rest of your life with all the happiness as you deserve ❤️❤️❤️
Just passed a year of being out of the organization, couldn’t feel better about it! It saddens me deeply that my parents consider me “mentally diseased” because i want nothing to do with this abusive cult. How can I fight back against the watchtower? Anyone have any ideas?
Jana Monteiro and Susan Brewer inspire me! I just love these strong women showing the way out of this harmful cult. Thank you both! Lloyd, I appreciate you bringing such inspirational stories to the world.
When you described the gas lighting your father attempted, calling it slander, that made me very angry. I have lived through similar and I just despise people who enjoy exercising control over others, it is classic abuse.
I think during the “exit polls” when the elders ask “What is the reason you’re leaving? What’s the specific issue?” (Paraphrased)They are gathering data to send back to the Wtbts so that future articles can be angled toward addressing any potential doubters.
I really enjoyed this interview ❣️ Ironically I learned about Narcissism and cognitive dissonance from the lady I studied w. We met in a therapy group. I think her therapist taught her all that to help wake her up and it didn't work, just guessing. She taught me all about it except it was her interpretation. She thinks only ppl coming IN deal w cognitive dissonance because of trying to accept all new beliefs. And with the love bombing etc I was so new at understanding, on top of her twisted understanding, I was under the impression that Intentions made all the dif. If the person had genuine pure intentions then it wasnt really narcissism. I now know that's exactly why shes not recognizing what's really going on.
These videos are bittersweet, Watchtower culture is the exact opposite of what they vehemently declare to be. Talk about spell casting hypocrites! Their magic is very powerful! Blatant abuse and disregard on every imaginable level. Such arrogant grandiosity!
I decided that I wouldn't play by their rules any longer...no disassociation letter for me...I texted the elders that I wasn't ok with the way the society was treating abuse survivors...they (2 elders) called me back asking for clarification and I texted back that I no longer wanted to be a witness. And I shared on social media (2 different platforms) before the elders announced my wish not to be a witness anymore. I wanted to share what my thinking was before they announced it from the platform (and the JW gossip machine spewed its negative crap.. )
My dear Jana wow my love and support is with you! I remember goodie night that was probably the only good thing. You are a survivor in so many ways the elders never help any abused women how sad huh! Gaslighting is the theme of the witnesses! Unfortunately survivors are famous for going back to their abusers. I did with my ex husband over and over again. Please find comfort that there are thousands of us who endured the same things you did! I'm very proud of you for getting out now.if you choose therapy find someone who specializes in helping those in cults. I went to horse therapy it's great for handling childhood issues and energy healing. Love and support to you 💕💞
What a great interview! I never know why elders seem confused by women with minds of their own having trouble with a misogynistic and patronising organisation. Glad Jana has made her way out, she seems destined for greater things than being a minesterial servant's wife! Thanks both (and boyfriend!) for the interview.
I'm embarrassed to say but it was called "Sacred Lies" I think the very first episode the psychologist mentions love-bombing as a recruitment technique.
Jana, so good to see you free but I think there's still a great deal of pain and work for you to go through. It can take a lifetime, as it has with me but we get stronger. I hope you find your niche in life whether through further education and/or your writing. Belated happy birthday 🎉🎈🎂💕💕
Sometimes o think it would be much better for jw if jw weren’t mentioned at all in that book. Because now, a jw will see the entire book as an attack on jw. We need him to take the jw stuff out.
We had a goodie night after our book study! Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm sorry about the pain this religion has caused you -- and all of us. Now you can take the rest of your life to heal.
good for you .so strong but you have your freedom ,thank you so much you are very courageous and i wish you every happiness im so grateful that you have shared your experiences xx
Wow, I just want both of you to know I’m sending you both soooo much LOVE & LIGHT from myself & the Universe. I myself have never been a J.W so I could personally never know what y’all have went thru but I absolutely ADORE this channel, you shine soooo much light on this religion like ALL other religions which are here to control but wow I couldn’t even imagine being a part of something like this, no offense at all, but my heart truly goes out to you guys & the ones who are still stuck in this lie!! But I know for a fact there is something out there whether it’s E.T’s, “God”, A Creator. There is a higher power but religion is not where we should get our information from, it comes from within, that little voice inside us, that only we can hear (which fascinates me) but I just want both of you to know that I am an Indigo, a starseed, a light worker & I have a STRONG sense that the both of you are as well, y’all are here to help humanity & Mother Earth, if you guys can look it up to see if y’all can identify with whom I believe y’all are & came to Earth for, your purpose! Much love guys & btw Lloyd I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio so I grew up going to “Cedar” Point every summer ***fun fact about me*** so I feel super connected to this channel for some reason.
My dream is to officially disassociate one day instead of being a fader. I've been fully out for a few years, but they still are trying to rope me back in. But I know too much to return.
You can see the flashbacks on her face and I feel for her so deeply. My mother and other witnesses keep trying to pull me back in; I watch videos like these to stay deprogrammed. I appreciate this very much. Thank you.
@@gcsoulsurfer I started walking out of the hall and asking questions about contradictions when i was 14 and then stopped going mostly when i was 16-17. I've gone to a couple of memorials and half days of the conventions or assemblies since then, but I have no intention of going back. That's why I keep watching videos like these. My boyfriend asked me why I watch or listen to this stuff all the time and I had to explain the way I was raised and how hard it is to stay away. Just have to keep fighting to stay deprogrammed. Thank you for responding 🖤
Please, no matter how hard those strings pull at your heart when they use those manipulative techniques. It is not safe and all we can do is stay strong because those same family will need us when, hopefully, this religion is crumbled and broken. I don't look forward to seeing the pain when they realize all the pain the religion is causing and we will need to be there for them even for those we would feel like well when were there for me but don't be selfish they expect that. Don't show them the evil and unkindness they expect, show them the love and warmth we weren't. I hope that all makes since. I know what I'm trying to say but not always good at explaining it to others.
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Stay strong, stay with us.
I appreciate y'all for the kind words and response 🖤 thank you. I keep watching and talking to stay away. It's been easier for me than it has for a lot of others since I'm mostly faded away, but still y'all know how hard it is when faced with indoctrination. I'll keep watching the people that have left and keep myself from back into this. I've looked at so many things and watched so much that has opened my eyes....I've read all the old books, watched all the old videos, still have a lot of the "old light" books and it still took me watching videos like these to understand just how screwed up they are.
I'm a born in JW n Disassociate at 22 now I'm 64 n I watch alot of the Ex- JW community U-tube videos which stands to reason Y because it helps "Me" to understand I'm not the Crazy one it's them ( WT JW'S) who definitely is !!!...😲😱🤭🤫😁
What an articulate young woman and very brave to tell her story. This was a most compelling interview. Thank you Jana for being so open and sharing some very painful memories. All the best as you move forward!
What an intelligent, beautiful person Jana is. Leaving Watchtower takes so much strength and resilience 💜
Wow GREAT Job Jana as a former Elder and JW for thirty years born in. Great job handling those guys. They were baiting you to say you read material elsewhere, but you stood tall by not giving in they were trying get you, with the idea to disfellowshipped you. I was an elder trust me. Your awesome. I’m glad We ALL are finally happy. Love you John.
Watching this yesterday finally convinced me to become a patron. I've never been a JW but so much of your content resonates deeply with me and gives me comfort.
Yes me to
Thanks so much Margaret! Welcome to my patreon! I very much appreciate the support!
Welcome Frank! Thank you! :)
Same here. I became a patron too. I have not thankfully been a JW. I think non-JW members should watch these videos too. Hopefully, they will serve as a warning to non-JWS. Love your channel, Lloyd. I'm addicted.
Wow. What an incredible story. I have watched it several times. Thank you so much Jana for sharing. You are incredibly strong. You have survived so much, including definitely a very strong theme of narcissistic abuse from your father and ex fiancé along and others. You are an inspiration and I wish you a wonderful life.
Jana, you are very courageous and intelligent young lady. I'm sorry that you have suffered so much, but thank goodness you are out of this evil cult. Your courage and bravery will be an example to those still trapped inside the cult and help them to escape. You are free to do what you like. I take my hat off to you.
You're not alone Jana, I lied to my grandmother as well. She said almost the exact same thing to me weeks before she past. I was just about fully awake. My thought was, why upset her at this point.
I can relate, I was never sexually abused but I was physically abused for years. I finally couldn't take it anymore so I went to the Elders told them of the almost every single day beatings I was living with and the elders turned to my mother asked what she had to say she started balling and said "I guess I've been to hard on her" .... Then the elders said "ok well we have to go we will come check back in a couple days" my heart fell into my stomache I couldn't believe I had just told them this woman was beating me within an inch of my life and instead of helping me they were going to leave me alone with her after I have told on her. I was soooo scared and what I feared happened she beat me and told me I better tell them I made it up so when they came back I did. Those men could have helped me they could have called the police or something but instead I was left to endure years and years more of physical beatings until I couldn't take it anymore and ran away from home. It's not right!!!!
So glad you made it out! You're a survivor!
This is heartbreaking.... Glad you got out!!
I'm sorry 😔
I’ve been watching for months .i was a single parent ,a firefighter that was civilian and worked on a millitary base for 10 years .i was told to quit my job and everything in my life went downhill .and at the end and I confronted my elder he said “ it was your decision” ignoring the fact he threatens me with disassociating myself which I was told later is not even a thing .
I'm so very impressed by the strength it takes for young ones like her to have the conviction, or I guess the balls so young, to decide on exactly what that conviction of theirs is, and act on it, and then have the strength to speak out. She is helping so many people right now.
This woman has endured a lot of difficulties. Beautiful to watch her and see how strong she is!
I simply love how you are not joining her in her (nervous) giggling, as a lot of people would do. For me, that is a sign of you being sincere and respectful. Thank you Lloyd.
One of the best interviews I've seen of late.
Was that DVD the one with the kid who is discouraged from becoming an athlete?
I had pivotal experience with that one as well. My highschool teachers and written a letter of recommendation for me to enter art school and were really supportive of my education. I really wanted to do it too! The week I got that letter one of the elders organized a video night for all the youths in the congregation. About 30 of us jammed into his living room and watched this DVD. At the time it was a really good vibe and I was really happy to be part of this group.
There was a particular scene where the school coach says to the boy, 'You have a gift, follow your dream', or words to that effect. I almost jumped out of my skin because my art teacher had said those exact words to me earlier that week! Needless to say, my impressionable mind thought that this was Jehovah telling me how to make the decision about my own education. I never attended art school.
An excellent interview Lloyd! You are a great listener and interviewer. Also you are very kind and allowed your guest to talk and share her story. It is also to your credit that so many are coming out of the JW cult in such good shape emotionally and mentally no doubt due to your website JW Survey and this youtube channel and your books. You are saving lives.
Thank you for sharing your experience, Jana. You make me want to share my story. I find it really helps to hear different experiences from people who left the JW cult. I was a pioneer for 7 years and my husband was an MS and we just disassociated in May of this year. Freedom feels so good. Thank you Lloyd for making so many encouraging videos to help people think for themselves!
Way to go Jana! You did it!! Congratulations and belated Happy Birthday to you! (And Lloyd too!)
Lloyd, your books and videos helped my husband and me after we decided we were going to leave, as well.
We sent our DA letters just before the July 4th holiday, so Independence Day here in the US has been given a new meaning, as corny as that might be. We declared our own independence from cult indoctrination that day, and that’s really at the core of that holiday for us now, and what I really celebrate each year when the date comes around. It’s been three years of peace from JW relatives who’d been allowed to be horribly abusive for far too long, so writing those letters has actually protected our family from further damage from them. I only wish we could’ve written those letters earlier, but as you both said in this video - it’s a process to leave and it takes time.
Thank you both for sharing your experiences with us. These things you’ve shared are very meaningful to my family and I, and to so many others who’ve also been in the same boat.
I really enjoyed this... Lloyd u should make this a regular thing .. it must be so hard for people to tell their stories.. well done to this women ❤❤❤ ...
What a pleasure to listen to her laugh. Even though her story is so sad. Such courage.
I really enjoyed this interview... thank you both so much!
What an incredible and strong person she is. I hope her remaining days are filled with joys and beautiful surprises. She deserve it and so much more.
I love that Dali clock she has melting off the shelf.
Another fascinating experience ! Thanks for sharing!
Thought I was the only one who noticed the Dali clock! It's so cool👍
I want one!
I will CELEBRATE with you ALWAYS on Aug 2nd!! Thats my literal birthday! :)
Yay! I'll celebrate you too Cindy!
@@iFakeNormal thanks!! Genuinely!!
I'm loving the change in camera angles - very pro :-)
Fascinating interview. She reminds me of so many people I have met in my JW & EXJW community. Stay strong!
Excellent watch. Brightened my day
Jana is so strong and such a likeable and bright personality. Her words were seriously empowering. Amazing
I'm sorry for your experience Jana. It's remarkable how positive and free you are. Good for you on speaking out, even when no one was willing to listen. I hope life outside of the organisation will be much happier and healthier for you!
Thank you Lloyd and Jana. Greetings from NZ!
I love Salvador Dali clock on the shelf.
Same!
Thank you for sharing your story! You are strong, amazing and a source of strength. While I’m not DA ...I admire those who take the step that is necessary. It varies from each individual.
I also know someone who DA and it was almost an identical convo with the elders and you can really see the programming.
It’s sad that people don’t think you can’t come up with the idea that this isn’t the truth on your own. We wake up and some of us look for like minded people to validate those doubts, fears. It’s clear as day though when you really be honest with yourself. Some are strong enough to know they don’t believe. Everyone has their journey and thank you for sharing yours.
I love your RBG picture! And welcome to freedom!
Martinj1417 😂🤣😂🤣👍🏻
This life cannot adequately be explained by anyone. But while we exist, pain and trauma should never be overlooked.
Good to hear she can still laugh. And loves to do so.
My husband has said the same thing about blood fractions that he wouldn't take it.
I said... "You listen to them 100%... Then when they say... Yes...it's your decision, then you say no... Makes no sense to me. It is enfuriating." So I agree with Lloyd's comment.
I hate this religion with passion.
I don't think my husband will ever leave. I've had hope before, I no longer do. 😳
Wonderful interview with a lovely and beautiful soul. I found so much of what she went through relatable. My heart goes out to you for all the heartache you suffered in your youth. So glad you are free and happy now! I also found it so interesting the questions of the Elder after they got your letter. I bet they are keeping a record by number of all the JWs that leave because of "Apostate Propaganda". The way he talked about Apostates as if they are some angry predators waiting to snatch up anyone that comes across their material was just laughable considering how predatory the JW religion is. They literally use peoples grief when they lose a loves one in death to rope them into the religion. Wishing you all the happiness. I hope one day I have the courage to do an interview with Lloyd.
Happy Birthday Jana! So sorry to hear about your horrible childhood experience... Thank you for sharing your story and being SO STRONG. Enjoy your freedom and shape your life as you wish! Good luck to you!
Excellent story but how sad! She is a strong person and am so glad that she connected with you Lloyd and your factual info.. Jana you deserve only happiness. So glad you found Lloyd!!
What a beautiful soul she is, intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate, and brave. I am forever grateful she found her way out to freedom and to find her peace.
Congratulations Jana! 💐🍾🥂🎉 Thank you for sharing your story!
I love your work Evans.
The plug totally worked! I went to Audible straight away to purchase your book. Looking forward to reading it :)
My birthday is also September 10th.😁
I celebrated it this year for the first time after 30 years being a JW.
Happy belated! I'm not going to say the BEST babies are born on Sept10th... I'll just let the evidence speak for itself. Lol
My best wishes for your first birthday.
Thanks for the video.
Loyd, you are such a lovely host!!!! What a brave girl sharing her story. I must say, she has a wonderful laugh, she laughs often and she brightens a room! She is a breath of fresh air and I know wonderful things in life are waiting for her. Sending you both and your families many well wishes and love ❤️☺️
Ur an inspiration Jana!! Thank u for being so awesome & brave. 2019 is when I began to realize everything & it started with me wanting to be more spiritual and being curious on the history of things & looking up peoples stories on here. U being here today shows ur strength & your presence is appreciated so much ❤️
Well done Jana; anyone raised as a JW had a very strange upbringing but on top of that you had an abusive childhood and still you are such a positive and balanced adult and I really hope you will be a source of inspiration to young people who are going through this. I left over 25 years ago - I was disfellowshipped, which I was absolutely fine with: disassociate or get disfellowshipped - either way you're out, it's still their rules but I was already physically out; went through a few weeks of attending meetings and I remember my last and walked away feeling so free. I didn't come to terms with my former religion until a few years ago when I started watching Lloyd, prompted by seeing the Apostasy film poster on the underground. Now I'm happy to talk about it with friends & colleagues, if asked, slightly complicated by working with a JW and not wanting to upset/offend her. You did so well talking to the elders, I remember finding that hard. They choose the elders to whom you are closest and you don't want to be combative, you just want to walk away with dignity which of course you aren't allowed to do. And comparing leaving the JW's to stop being a Catholic was a bad move by that elder. My partner was raised a Catholic, we can go to midnight mass without any obligation and feel genuinely welcomed. Wishing you all the very best success in the future and of course, thank you Lloyd.
I am so angry with this Org.
All us x jw understand your anger for all sorts of reasons that this org has and is still messing up people’s lives. But please don’t waste your energy on being angry anymore , Try to forget about the harm and suffering they caused in your life .The best revenge we can do back to them is to show them that they where wrong in showing them we can be happy without there approval. Cause we all know they think that once you leave them you will forever be unhappy and missable in the devil’s hands . 💐
Welcome to freedom Jana! Thank you for sharing your story ❤️
When she talked about after baptism. And how now she is no longer a "tool" to be used.. WOW powerful 👏 👏👏
I woke up the same say. Reading books about other cults made me realize that I was IN a cult.
Knowledge and information is the most powerful weapon against Watchtower...which says everything about them.
Jana, best wishes for happiness from a kindred spirit.
I did some research on the number 7. Apparently, the Canaanites also attached significance the the number 7. In ancient Ugarit, the king offered 7 sacrifices for 7 days to acquire a child. Basically, they borrowed rituals from their pagan neighbors.
7 it's also a number very much used in witchcraft as well
Joana Ester Gonçalves Lins Hmm! Interesting, why is it used in witchcraft? I know in the ancient near east the number was likely based off of the 7 cosmic objects in the sky that represented different gods. Is it similar to that?
@@skepticspropaganda4028 I know that it's very used in afro religions, why I do not know, but it's interesting
Hi Jana from an EXJW in Winston-Salem NC
i like how she was watching one of your videos when they called
Wow Jana has such an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing
What an interesting interview!
this was a awesome interview. I'm so glad she woke up and can now live a fulfilling life
What a strong, beautiful woman you are Jana. Thank you for sharing your story.
Welcome to FREEDOM Jana! ✌🏼❤️
This woman’s energy is striking. She needs to know that. Thank you so so much for sharing your story, sis 🖤
What an amazing story from such an intelligent, strong well rounded individual. Jana, I truly hope you live the rest of your life with all the happiness as you deserve ❤️❤️❤️
Wonderful brave lady... thank you
This has also added so much more into my fading.... thank you
Wonderful interview
Just passed a year of being out of the organization, couldn’t feel better about it! It saddens me deeply that my parents consider me “mentally diseased” because i want nothing to do with this abusive cult. How can I fight back against the watchtower? Anyone have any ideas?
Jana Monteiro and Susan Brewer inspire me! I just love these strong women showing the way out of this harmful cult. Thank you both!
Lloyd, I appreciate you bringing such inspirational stories to the world.
Yay another interview 😍😍😍😍😍
Thanks for sharing Jana! You are such a strong person
Life only gets better after waking and leaving form the cult. Much love to you on your journey--living your life to the fullest!
Ohmygoodness! Love the clock on the shelf!
Absolutely beautiful interview..thank you both!!
When you described the gas lighting your father attempted, calling it slander, that made me very angry. I have lived through similar and I just despise people who enjoy exercising control over others, it is classic abuse.
She is a remarkable lady. Thank you for sharing your experience. May the true God grant you peace.
I think during the “exit polls” when the elders ask “What is the reason you’re leaving? What’s the specific issue?” (Paraphrased)They are gathering data to send back to the Wtbts so that future articles can be angled toward addressing any potential doubters.
FACTS!
*in the voice of john Ceder*... Indeed! ❤️
I enjoy your videos but often while watching I have anxiety. Sometimes I have to take breaks. Lol
Sometimes a too have to take breaks. One video took me two weeks to watch. But hey, that's the way it is. I can deal with it.
@@bruderk4257 which one?
I really enjoyed this interview ❣️ Ironically I learned about Narcissism and cognitive dissonance from the lady I studied w. We met in a therapy group. I think her therapist taught her all that to help wake her up and it didn't work, just guessing. She taught me all about it except it was her interpretation. She thinks only ppl coming IN deal w cognitive dissonance because of trying to accept all new beliefs. And with the love bombing etc I was so new at understanding, on top of her twisted understanding, I was under the impression that Intentions made all the dif. If the person had genuine pure intentions then it wasnt really narcissism. I now know that's exactly why shes not recognizing what's really going on.
I agree with Jana's takeaway about life. There is energy and it can't be destroyed. Other than that, I have no idea--and that's okay.
Too many have suffered for too long. Congrats to Jana for leaving and doing so well for herself. 😌🐑
1:24:30 When Janas disassociation was announced did anyone hear someone say “Good for you” ?
These videos are bittersweet, Watchtower culture is the exact opposite of what they vehemently declare to be.
Talk about spell casting hypocrites!
Their magic is very powerful! Blatant abuse and disregard on every imaginable level.
Such arrogant grandiosity!
I decided that I wouldn't play by their rules any longer...no disassociation letter for me...I texted the elders that I wasn't ok with the way the society was treating abuse survivors...they (2 elders) called me back asking for clarification and I texted back that I no longer wanted to be a witness. And I shared on social media (2 different platforms) before the elders announced my wish not to be a witness anymore. I wanted to share what my thinking was before they announced it from the platform (and the JW gossip machine spewed its negative crap.. )
My dear Jana wow my love and support is with you! I remember goodie night that was probably the only good thing. You are a survivor in so many ways the elders never help any abused women how sad huh! Gaslighting is the theme of the witnesses! Unfortunately survivors are famous for going back to their abusers. I did with my ex husband over and over again. Please find comfort that there are thousands of us who endured the same things you did! I'm very proud of you for getting out now.if you choose therapy find someone who specializes in helping those in cults. I went to horse therapy it's great for handling childhood issues and energy healing. Love and support to you 💕💞
Loved the painting of Ruth Bater Ginsberg on the wall
Great video thank you
What a great interview! I never know why elders seem confused by women with minds of their own having trouble with a misogynistic and patronising organisation. Glad Jana has made her way out, she seems destined for greater things than being a minesterial servant's wife! Thanks both (and boyfriend!) for the interview.
What was the show that she watched on Facebook Watch?
I'm embarrassed to say but it was called "Sacred Lies" I think the very first episode the psychologist mentions love-bombing as a recruitment technique.
Great interview from both sides. I want to hug Jana. LOVE the clock on the bookshelf.
Thanks for sharing your story! I found many similarities to mine and how I felt.
Jana, so good to see you free but I think there's still a great deal of pain and work for you to go through. It can take a lifetime, as it has with me but we get stronger. I hope you find your niche in life whether through further education and/or your writing. Belated happy birthday 🎉🎈🎂💕💕
1:12:00 your phone looks like mine, with the John Cedars Channel playing in the small square in the foreground lol
Sometimes o think it would be much better for jw if jw weren’t mentioned at all in that book. Because now, a jw will see the entire book as an attack on jw.
We need him to take the jw stuff out.
I agree.
We had a goodie night after our book study!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm sorry about the pain this religion has caused you -- and all of us. Now you can take the rest of your life to heal.
Sorry for your experience Jana you are totally doing the right thing exposing this org unfortunately it is a petrie dish for narcissistic abusers.
Very true. Narcissism, misogyny, power.
good for you .so strong but you have your freedom ,thank you so much you are very courageous and i wish you every happiness im so grateful that you have shared your experiences xx
Such a messed up religion that messes up its members. Jana, you are such a strong, and jovial, woman in spite of.
Nice interview welcome to your freedom
So they nearly did an intervention cause she asked a question. Nice.
They did goodie night once a month after book study during the time i went as well.
Wow, I just want both of you to know I’m sending you both soooo much LOVE & LIGHT from myself & the Universe. I myself have never been a J.W so I could personally never know what y’all have went thru but I absolutely ADORE this channel, you shine soooo much light on this religion like ALL other religions which are here to control but wow I couldn’t even imagine being a part of something like this, no offense at all, but my heart truly goes out to you guys & the ones who are still stuck in this lie!! But I know for a fact there is something out there whether it’s E.T’s, “God”, A Creator. There is a higher power but religion is not where we should get our information from, it comes from within, that little voice inside us, that only we can hear (which fascinates me) but I just want both of you to know that I am an Indigo, a starseed, a light worker & I have a STRONG sense that the both of you are as well, y’all are here to help humanity & Mother Earth, if you guys can look it up to see if y’all can identify with whom I believe y’all are & came to Earth for, your purpose! Much love guys & btw Lloyd I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio so I grew up going to “Cedar” Point every summer ***fun fact about me*** so I feel super connected to this channel for some reason.
My dream is to officially disassociate one day instead of being a fader. I've been fully out for a few years, but they still are trying to rope me back in. But I know too much to return.