There has never been a more wonderful human to exist than my sister. I love you endlessly and cannot express how yours and Simon's continuous support has helped me through this traumatic process. You are full of strength and resilience and I can never thank you enough for saving me
Mom kicks her out but she moves home to help her with the younger siblings anyway. But she was the "worldly bad one". They are such hypocrites. She cared more about family than her mother cared for her
If a Kingdom Hall was burgled overnight, some elders of the Congregation will waste no time to report the case to the police. But no report goes to the police when a paedophile within them commits sexual abuse. The organisation is indeed deplorable.
You are 100% correct. Shepherd the flock of god book says that if the KH is burgled to immediately call the authorities... If there is a report of CSA.. call the legal department at your local HQ Bethel.
Kerry North’s statement “as JW children... to eventually wake up & realize you’ve never been unconditionally loved...your parents love this cult more than their own children” rings so true. The treatment of children & the family unit in this org is reprehensible.
Choosing to not have a relationship with a toxic person is not the same thing as the shunning that cults practice or the silent treatment that abusers practice.
Another great (but sad and horrible) interview. I’m so sorry that anyone has to go through this. My family is currently awaiting the trial of my daughters abuser (Covid has screwed all that up). We as a family have 100% been dropped by all of the elders and JW family in two different congregations because we went to the authorities. It’s been a 3yr process since our daughter told us what happened to her and we have had no contact by the Elders since our second conversation with them where we told them CPS was involved. Meanwhile the abuser and his family continued to receive support and are in good standing.
To Fabulously faded: What you have been through is horrible. Can't believe this piece of garbage is still in the congregation. I really hope he goes to jail. I'm so disgusted by these people, it makes my blood boil. Hugs to you all, though.
Keep fighting, do not give up. At one stage things looked very bleak in our case against our stepdad but eventually we got it to Court and he was sentenced to 10 years! Sending love to you all. X
@@knorthexjw6369 Didn't know it went to court and he went to jail. Thank goodness!! Really hope he was disfellowshipped too .....although I won't cross my fingers.
Thank you both so much! It’s been a long hard road that hopefully will result in jail time. Thankful our daughter is safe and all of this led to us finally fully waking up and getting our kids away from this destructive cult.
Lloyd, I have watched your videos for a few years now, worried to press the like or even the subscribe button. This interview changed that. Thanks (19 years since I left).
I know at least a half-dozen women that I attended the KH with in the 70's who were being abused by JW step-father including myself. I am beyond disgusted with those who turn a blind eye including my own family. They have been trained not to view or read anything outside of the org but trust me they know there has and is sexual abuse going on. My brother is an elder, he knows what happen to me, but you know if they don't read it, it isn't happening.
I know of several sisters beaten by their husbands and it was hushed up and the sisters suffered badly. People were threatened by the elders of being DF’d for slander if they told anyone... ...an org. that it is good to not be a part of anymore.
I know of two biological sisters who were sexually abused by their MOTHER for years. She was always answering at meetings and giving great talks in the Min School.
It proves that outward appearance, meeting attendance and ‘works’ of field service are no guide to the real person.. .. and the pharisees, as usual, have it arse about face...
Kerry, thanks for your courage in sharing these heartbreaking life experiences. You're a lovely young lady. Lloyd, thanks for providing this platform allowing others to share. 💪👏❤❤
Thank-you Lloyd for having this lovely lady on your channel. But a bigger thank-you to you Kerry for helping us to expose this cruel dangerous CULT. You made a extremely good point - "this is still the way child abuse survivors are being handled to this very day, not the long distant past like the CULT leaders would like investigations & inquiry's to believe". Of course I had previously already listened to Lacie's story & how incredibly brave she has been. Much love to you both.
Despicable organization! It creates loveless hollow people! Thanks Lloyd for being there when others have not. Lacie you and your sister Kerry have triumphed by speaking up ....all victims thank you!
So hard to watch this. I'm so angry and horrified. Really well done interview, Lloyd...as always. This makes me hate the criminality of the JW cult even more.
If you ever criticize Lloyd, even if meant to be constructive, you will quickly learn he is not a particularly "nice guy" But with that being said, he does navigate these sensitive interviews impressively well. And Lloyd has got to be the JWs worst nightmare. I've seen so many people credit his channel for waking them up. But this cult of personality Lloyd has developed is undeserving and has gotten to his head in my opinion.
What an absolute sweetie, Kerry is. She speaks well and is fun to watch. Can't believe 3...at this point... downvoters are so brainwashed that they still believe in this cult. The GB and the borg have SO much to answer for.
I wish my mum would wake up. But she was born in, and has only gotten deeper into it since my grandmother died (what a surprise!). Not a day goes by when her time is taken up by this cult.
Hi there HalaquinnArcadias, I read your comment and wanted to encourage you to stay strong and always keep laughing if possible. sincerely Patricia, (my brothers you tube account).
Growing up in the borg, I can't tell you how many remarks my dad made about women causing all the issues in regards to rape, sex assaults, etc etc, and thst it was all their fault. Low cut tops, improper clothing, etc etc. So when I was molested, I just could not tell. I could not bare more judgemental remarks in regards to what he may have thought that I did to cause myself this injustice. I already had to hear day by day about what was wrong with my choices,my friends, schooling or choices to go on to higher education, music, tv shows, everything I did was criticized. So I told no one. I wouldn't have had any consoling, or a empathetic, understanding dad. I would have had a judgemental, blaming, dad who likely would have stood by his religions side and me probably out on the street being blamed for something, again. This is one harmful cult.
A judgemental, blaming dad... Coz all the time he can blame you he doesn't have to deal with the perpetrator. Also known as a coward. I know it is hard for you to hear me say that and for your sensibilities I apologise, but I can tell you that as a father, if someone harmed my kid (or my wife) like this then I'd be in jail for murder. I would take a bullet for my kids, it's a father's role to be the family's defender not another criticising voice when things are bad enough already.
Snow White, sorry your Dad was such a weak person, that tends to be a trend within the JW’s, they are either extremely weak or narcissistic, but remember this in no way reflects badly on you and nothing that happened to you was your fault.
I watched Lacie's interview a few weeks ago and like I commented there its so brilliant to see people like you happy and full of joy for life despite your ordeal. A successful life is the best revenge.
@18:00 this happens more frequently re the "adultery" escape clause for married couples to get "scripturally" divorced. I just watched an interview where the former JW young woman "confessed" to adultery in order to free her ex-husband to remarry and her to leave the organisation and I have heard of other cases where one spouse actually engaged in an extramarital affair to get free to remarry
Leave it in Jehovah’s hand should be trade mark. All the elders most meet in a room and advise to use it when they have no answers to their wrong doing.
Thank you for speaking up and for showing what unconditional love is May you and your sister Lacie continue to show the light on the darkness of this cult.
5:18 “Were you baptized?” - It doesn’t really matter if you’re not baptized as a Jehovah’s Witness. You could still get shunned anyway. Many Jehovah’s Witnesses think being baptized is just a trivial technicality.
The public as to know so they can't catch more innocent vulnerable family. The one inside as to wake themselfe up .we did and its a slow lingering process incredible harder than expected. Not impossible to finally be free happy. Were not alone thank you Loyd and all the one who speak up tell the truth.
This is such a sad sad story! The organisation is so off the charts. My heart goes out to you all. Unfortunately it’s not uncommon. My extended family and myself have had similar experiences. ☹️
Great video Lloyd. One thing I realize is how many of us XJW'S are programmed through guilt and shame to be co-dependant so to speak on how we should be forever caregivers if not physically but at least to some degree emotionally to bad behaving individuals especially our family. I think it is reinforced because of shunning experience. The organization truly acts as a Narcissistic and we don't even recognize it. Dr. Ramani had great you tube video's under glossary of a Narcisstic Personality Disorder. It was an eye opener for me. Great interview.
Thank you Kerry for being there for your sister. Hopefully your mom will wake up from her slumber one day. Very happy to hear your parents lost the court battle and your other little sister was not sacrificed to this evil organisation. It's very true what you said about your mom, most JWs I know are sad and depressed individuals. It must be very hard to go through every waking hour thinking the world will end any minute now and you haven't done enough. No JW ever feels they have done enough, they have no peace in their hearts
What a brilliant interview. I love Kerry's honesty so much. Ouch.. that line where you realise you have never been unconditionally loved.. that's hitting me harder and harder as I get older. What an absolutely evil religion.
I usually comment under another name Skyfly. But today I stand up proud to use my own name. Proud to have been reunited with you and your sister. Proud of the beautiful women you have grown into. Proud that you have both been so strong to stand up to this cult and have shared your stories to help others. But at the same time so thoroughly ashamed that I too had been sucked in many years ago. Initially I too had made bad decisions in order to keep good standing in a cult. Then wasted 20 years of my life trying not to loose my offspring that are still in but unable to loose the two that woke up. We have all been damaged by these people I am truly sorry for that.
Proud of you being yourself Barbara Stokes!! I was essentially a born-in, but lots of time spent in the library at school (missing out on birthdays and holidays, etc) ...time well spent educating myself about the real world, but it still took until a few years ago to acknowledge all my doubts and research them! Been out 2 years, officially announced a year ago! Yay!! Life is so much better and I'm getting better at not being afraid to be me!
You know why mum is upset and depressed? She has done so much “for Jehovah” hoping to see her mother but she feels deep down inside that it’s not enough to get her into the new system! That would eat away at her soul!!!
Her mom sounds exactly like my mother. Very miserable and depressed and talks about paradise every waking hour of her life and how she will see her mother.its heartbreaking to watch
Hi Lloyd. I love watching your channel. If I am having a bad day I click on one of your videos and not be upset anymore. Even if It is during school that I watch one of your videos I can always come back to it. Thank you for posting these videos.
“Leave it in the hands of Jehovah” means “Leave it in the hands of the Governing Body and their policies.” What would Jesus do with those eight grandiose old men sitting in their compound designing & enforcing callous policies that put reputation first and innocents last? I’d like to think they’d be in for the treatment he gave the Money Changers.
I am sad for the loss of family bonds and be loved with those conditions.. It's such a bad religion.. Wish them a good life and hope your mom will wake up one day.. 💕
I was involved In the 1998 panarama programme. My son was abused by a ministerial servant who served 5 years. It shocks me too see these things still happening. What happened too my family was horrendous.. Too see the gb still hiding these sick people is disgraceful.. After listening too this interview it brought back so many memories... I feel deeply for this young lady.. Everything she says is so true very very similar too the response we got from our elders at the time... Too think this is being covered up 25 years after our experience. Shows the gb too be tottaly evil... You never forget the way they treat you... We were made too feel guilty. For telling the police...... I hope something will happen soon too close this awful cult down.. Best wishes
Lloyd, When I left almost 14 years ago now I moved away as well. Even though they know I'm living with and in a relationship with a disfellowshipped bf and they have even spoken with us and I'm not an elders child and nobody has dfd me either.
This whole interview blew me away. Thank you Lloyd. Thank you Kerry. And Lacie in the previous video. Thank you all for articulating so beautifully the world and experiences I could relate to...Kerry you are a woman of substance and integrity and all your words hit home. One of the most compelling things you said was about your mothers happiness. SO TRUE. My mother is one of the most devout JW’s yet is truly the most miserable woman I know. The anguish and misery has been etched on her face for decades. But then she’s also the most callous and cold hearted woman I’ve ever known too. But I digress. Lloyd I have been binge watching your channel and I will be purchasing the book mentioned here also. I’ve been disfellowshipped for nearly 20 years but the wounds run deep. Thank you so much for bringing light to the shadows.
"Every time, the religion has been chosen over the children. And, you know, that's a hard realization to come to. That your parents love this cult more than their own children." Wow. That's just so accurate and so devastating. And we've all seen it over and over. The cult is put first over children every single time.
Thankfully Kerry was there when her sister really needed help and still maintains the closeness. Although she got a shock at how the org really is, it got me to thinking maybe this is the orgs way of sacrificing to their evil god! I hope more can see the true evil side to this wicked cult!
Lacie is and always was an amazing person! I’m so incredibly grateful that you had your sister to confide in! I remember times when people would murmur about the visits to her and I just shudder to think where you’d be if you’d have shunned her!!! Sending you lots of love!!!!
I can definitely relate to Kerry. I too left was married , then divorced two years later. ( Long story he was abusive) I left because I realized I did not have a scriptural divorce. ( I had no idea that was a thing , before I got baptized) I wrote a disassociation letter. I spent most of my adult life still kinda believing.. knowing that God would kill me because I just couldn't conform to the org. I wanted no part of it. And my parents faced the no blood thing, but with my niece. I was 13. My parents had custody of her. They refused and child protection services took over and gave her the blood she is now ,35 years old and a mom of two boys. Also, I am a survivor of sexual abuse. I've also had my round about in circles with the elders . I'd also like to commend you, Kerry for being a voice, for your sister, and being there for her, having her back. I too have 5 siblings. 4 sisters one brother. One sister still being in. But none of my siblings have my back or are loyal to me. None of them would fight for me or protect me. In fact, some of them are still in contact with my abusers ( plural) they still have the indoctrination of the WT, where you are supposed to forgive and treat that person as if nothing happened. So , I've gone no contact with them. They are toxic. my parents are old people. still devote JW. My contact with them is very limited. Because they welcome my abusers in their home. Take them out to dinner etc... As if nothing happened. And my abusers have NEVER been before a judge, not even an elder tribunal! Because I didn't speak about it until I was an adult. Many years have gone by now , so I guess my DNA sharers feel it's ok now. ..
I am so sorry to read your comment. It makes me very sad. The indoctrination and control within the cult is very dangerous. One of the Elders on our stepdad's judicial committee even told my sister, his victim, what a good Elder he had been (whilst secretly being a paedophile for 10 years!). Lacie did not speak of her abuse until 2019, 10 years later. It's never too late to speak out. It disgusts me how many abusers within the cult are left untouched, in good standing in the congregation, easily able to abuse again! The victims are often scared to go against the cult. I will be eternally grateful that I was in a position to support Lacie and give her the roots & wings she was denied by our parents & the cult! Sending you much love. It must be heartbreaking seeing your parents welcome your abusers into their home. As I said in my interview with Lloyd, those of us born into the cult have often never experienced unconditional love. X
@@knorthexjw6369 you've got that right about never experienced unconditional love. It's so warped. Ha ! Makes me laugh! Your elder step dad a victim!?! Ha! Let me tell ya something, I don't understand why or what makes a person sexually attracted to children. I've read up on it, some say mental illness, or the brain is wired wrong from birth. Could be a need for power and control , could be due to them being abused as a child? But regardless of whatever the reason, they ARE NOT a victim of the crime they perpetrated against that child!! They had a CHOICE! Period! It would be like saying the drunk driver, who just killed a family of 5 because they were driving drunk. But the reason why they were drunk was because they were upset because they just got fired from their job, earlier that day.. so actually the drunk is a victim too. Sounds ridiculous right? And why? Because drunk or not, that person still made the choice to drink and drive. Which is a crime. Same as abusing a child, it's a crime! BTW, as far as me going after my abusers, regarding the JWs I don't have a case against the organization. And besides that, it's been more than ten years, more than 20.. my family knows who abused me. They believe it, but, choose to dismiss it , since, Im assuming, that many years have past and it's like well, Jen ( my name) us ok now.. I mean idk what goes on in their heads?? Seriously though, could you ever, sit down in a restaurant and share a meal with your step dad now? I will never be able to wrap my mind around that. It's what my parents did. And I'm sure they paid for the meal. Treated the guy like he was a long time old friend, ( he actually is, the son of my parents jw friend for the the past 40+ years) I was 4 years old. Thus my profile pic & and name. Just think about that, I mean it was about, 8 years ago, my mom told me how they went to dinner with him and his mother who was visiting. I'm an adult, 40 something years old, and even though I was 4 when it happened, I will deal with the mental and emotional damage it caused for the rest of my life. How can any parent , do that?? Because no matter how old a child gets, that child will always be a parent's baby. How could they even look at him and not see their 4 year old baby? Knowing how I have struggled for most of my life coping with the affects of what he did? It just blows my mind. And then, my sister.. her 1st husband raped me, then thought it would be ok to tell his upstairs neighbor ( my sisters then later brother in-law. After she divorced her husband she married her neighbors brother) and he sexually assaulted me. I was 13. My sister remains in contact with her ex-husband. She even refers to him as her " family" never mind he raped her little sister! My sister even used what he did to me, against him so he would sign the divorce papers. My parents used what he did to me to get him to sign off on the house they bought he and my sister when they got married. Threatening him with the authorities. But it was just a threat. No one went to the police in. Because even he was not a JW , he had been associated sooo.. you know how it goes about reproach etc... Funny thing though, that same sister was raped at 14-15 years old by a 50 year old man that worked for my dad. My sister told my parents when she was 18. Only three years later, but guess what? Did my parents go to the cops? A big fat NO!! And why? Because if they did, it would stain our family name, and since we were JW, it could possibly bring reproach on the congregation... Even though this guy was worldly .. But that's the SICK mind bending reasoning the JWs have. When in all actuality, loyalty, to your own flesh and blood, and protection of your children at any age, IS natural human affection, natural human instinct. But the cult brainwashes their members into denying natural human affection and destroy families beyond recognition.. my sister was never baptized. She is 56 years old and she still believes that the JWs are gods people even though she does not attend meetings since she was about 20 years old! And there is so much more I could tell you about each of my siblings ,how each of them have betrayed me. Showing more loyalty to my abusers than their own flesh and blood. I haven't even mentioned my JW ex husband and his parents kidnapping my 5 month old baby.. and how my parents and siblings now treat him as if he did nothing. + He had been sexually abusing his younger siblings. But I guess since so many years passed, and he wasn't officially charged ,due to lack of evidence even though he admitted to it, I guess in my parents and siblings eyes, he's cured now... And they welcome him, stay connected to him etc... It's really insane.
I was molested when was 6 years old by a guy in the kingdom hall. He never got in trouble. They told me jehovah forgave him and I need to do what jehovah wants me to do..to forgive him. They told us we couldnt tell anyone what happened not the police or friends or family. I was disfelowshiped at 18 for having a bf out of the religion yet I was still a virgin. I never went back and after being shunned is when I woke up. It's been 10 years now. And till this day my mom who is inactive says she did everything she possibly could for me with that situation. And when I tell her it's a big problem of them covering up child sexual abuse she says 'so does other religions and no one is perfect". Pisses me off.
I was a passive POMO for 20 years. Since I woke up three years ago (thanks to all the youtube activists), I warn everyone about this cult!! It’s simple form of activism that can save someone from getting sucked in.
I left in 1990. Walked out of the meeting and never went back after my husband and Iseperated. Not disfellowshipped. 7 yrs later my brother stopped attending. Never disfellowshiped. Then my sister and her husband stopped attending. They they split up. She is not disfellowshipped I wonder if the started clamping down in the last 20years?
Kerry's "Worldly", complete outsider, Husband must be losing his mind with all of this. For an Ex-JW this whole situation is completely F'd up... Being a complete outsider, always opposed to the religion, argued with the family about how bonkers the religion is and now this? This whole situation is just so F'd up.
I am so very sorry for the abuse her sister endured. The indoctrination from this Doomsday cult is so strong that it often takes something as tragic and painful as this to wake members up. My heart goes out to her and all those who have suffered abuse and their families.
I actually knew a woman who's husband was caught cheating by their young daughter. The husband was never d/f because he moved states before meeting with elders. Crazy
Thumbs up to you, Kerry and Lacie, for getting out of that heartless and false cult. Thank you for sharing your story, albeit a shocking one about the Watchtower Society and Jehovah's Witnesses. Although I am not a Jehovah's Witness nor have I ever been one, I have heard a lot of bad press about the organization. I hope you are recovering from the indoctrination. Much love to you.
Amazing testimony of the structure and exactly how it works dealing with this religion - made me cry as lots of it rings true 😢 good news is their eyes are opened and I hope Lacy recovers
Loyd thank you for having this channel. It has helped me to have ammunition for the future if my parents try to push the religion on me or my daughter. They have left it alone for the most part for now. I think they don’t want to open that can of worms with me.
Thank you Lloyd for your channel. I appreciate all the information I have learned, listening to your casts. As an ex- Jehovah's Witness myself. I have worked very hard to find out everything I can about whether or not God exist or is just propaganda of man and their inhibitions to rule and make rules to repress Society. I appreciate and agree how you're informing as to the information that is right there in the vary book they try to prove their side with. I would like to talk more about everything, and all the questions that has cluttered my brain for so many years. But for now. Thank you so very much.
I have never discussed this with anyone but I was abused by an elder in my hall who is dead now. I was 14. I was embarrassed, and depressed my whole life living with it and not even my parents know. I basically dropped out of high school because I became so awkward and introverted after it happened. I feel so sick now thinking about what happened and that other elders knew and did nothing but seeing videos like help a little... 😥
Bizarre by JW rules that she was never DFd....SO many have been DFd despite their moving and plenty have been DFd in absentia, without ever contacting the person. The elders totally broke the rules in *not DFing her.
Hi there Lloyd 🙂 Today's 'Daily Text' sure doubles down on the fact that they are not giving up the 2 or 3 witness stance. Infuriating. Plus the fearmongering on the latest group of videos at JW.Org is plain crazy-making. Thank goodness for the mental oasis you provide Lloyd. 👍
Trading what is good now for heaven later. Her mum sounds like she needs counselling to get over her grief - this has underlined my belief that telling people you’ll meet your dead loved ones in heaven blocks the chance to heal. Brave girls.
My friend and her family had to run and leave everything behind tell no one where she went and start a new life. Why didnt the elders step in and protect them...
Thank you for sharing Kerry, sorry you & your family have been so abused by WT & thank you Lloyd for your interview. Re Blood transfusions & infants. Recently here in Australia a JW baby needed a blood transfusion due to leukemia. The direction from the branch was to ALLOW the hospital to transfuse because the courts would enforce it anyway. However a few years ago another couple stood firm in not allowing blood for their child for a liver transplant as directed by WT, I remember they were hounded by the media. I don't remember the outcome, I hope they allowed it. But it just shows what a back peddling double standard evil interfering organisation WT is! Run by weak feeble minded heartless creatures giving directions from the safety & cover of Coward's Castle.
I'm so grateful for Lloyd's work, uncovering the hideous face behind the JW mask. And deèply respect Kerry and Lacie for their courage and emotional strength in sharing their story.
back in 1992 i knew a JW elder that had 4 kids from his wife. his wife was his sister. no wonder his kids looked a weeeee bit off center. he did finaly got found out.
One elder told me once that if you no longer identify as one of Jehovah’s witnesses then there is no reason to consider meeting a person in order to disfellowship him or her. I live in Canada so I wander how different this is from other countries!
I've never been this early! I've never been a jehovah's witness, and only really met them in passing, but what I hear is horrifying, and growing up in a Baptist household and seeing the Jehovahs witnesses distortions and crimes against the text they uphold is absolutely disgusting, it's one thing to be hypocritical, it's another to perpetuate a lie as destructive as JWs. It's one thing to interpret something, and another to add entirely new claims to it. All Christians sects cherry pick it, but I will admit that a few (within certain organizations) follow the text, at points to a fault
Baptists distort the Bible too? Yeah, I would agree with that. After all, each Christian sects cherry-picks from the Bible what they like and ignore the rest.
@@pansepot1490 That's kind of what I was saying, but as I reread my comment I edited it to further elaborate my thoughts. I think baptists are a lot closer to the text than JW, even if they fall short of it. We're human, most of us want what's comfortable for us, not what an all powerful being wants.
I found out when I was around 21 or 22 that my dad molested my little sister when she was 9 and continued into her teens. She told the elders, and he confessed, he has been DF but never let the religion go. He still lived his life like he was a JW. My sister is still a JW, he is in a assistance living with dementia. He should be in prison.
Ya know... They don't have to approve of how we live. I never expected my JW family to approve of my life. My grandmother didn't, but she overlooked that. She kept contact with me. We just didn't discuss some things and I was ok with that. But my other JW relatives (and old friends) just CHOOSE to not have contact. And my mother wasn't happy either. She spent her 75 years miserable in order to be in a new order that probably won't ever happen. My aunt and uncle are very happy as JWs. He's a traveling Overseer (or whatever it's called now) and they live an all expenses paid life. They have nice cars, lovely homes, the admiration of all witnesses they meet, and probably truly believe that the future promises eternity in paradise. And I AM HAPPY FOR THEM! I accept their lifestyle. And it lifts my heart to know they are so happy! Now...why can't they reciprocate? I've become an evolved and happier person throughout my life. But they refuse to even consider getting to know me, let alone feeling happy for me. There is no doubt this religion IS A CULT.
Lloyd why do you spend so much time doing what you do Do you do it for your channel? Or to help those who need what you believe , in the long run helps them to see what you see ? Its a tough one. I ask because I try every day to help my wife to wake up and ends up her aggressively saying " you are an apostate" I believe I'm being loving ❤. To a witness we are Satan
I was re-watching and had a thought that *Q. With knowing and proving the elders were lying about the documents, Is that perjury*! My bad, the *shepherding book's loopholes fix that*!
When she said, I'll be destroyed Armageddon anyway. I really wanted to laugh it seemed funny for some reason cuz I heard that so many times. Sounds like such a joke, to me now. But it's not funny back then. Back then when I was in Kingdom Hall congregation's.
There has never been a more wonderful human to exist than my sister. I love you endlessly and cannot express how yours and Simon's continuous support has helped me through this traumatic process. You are full of strength and resilience and I can never thank you enough for saving me
Hugs, Lacie.
We love you Lacie and Kerry!!
I am sorry you went through this. I am happy you have your sister to help you as well as the support of Simon. I wish for you the very best.
Thank you for sharing and your strength. All the very best in your healing moving forward.
much love to you and Kerry!
Mom kicks her out but she moves home to help her with the younger siblings anyway. But she was the "worldly bad one". They are such hypocrites. She cared more about family than her mother cared for her
Remember Mom is being unduly influenced by the cult. As if in a dream. So sad.
@@margaretvalentine5957 Like they are under a spell.
If a Kingdom Hall was burgled overnight, some elders of the Congregation will waste no time to report the case to the police. But no report goes to the police when a paedophile within them commits sexual abuse. The organisation is indeed deplorable.
Especially if someone was to steal the 'Elders Manual'. Maybe a woman would see it and all hell would break loose.
You are 100% correct.
Shepherd the flock of god book says that if the KH is burgled to immediately call the authorities...
If there is a report of CSA.. call the legal department at your local HQ Bethel.
Kerry North’s statement “as JW children... to eventually wake up & realize you’ve never been unconditionally loved...your parents love this cult more than their own children” rings so true. The treatment of children & the family unit in this org is reprehensible.
Choosing to not have a relationship with a toxic person is not the same thing as the shunning that cults practice or the silent treatment that abusers practice.
Indeed. Keyword: choosing.
@@MrShigura yes the intentions or motives for doing it is very different also
Another great (but sad and horrible) interview. I’m so sorry that anyone has to go through this. My family is currently awaiting the trial of my daughters abuser (Covid has screwed all that up). We as a family have 100% been dropped by all of the elders and JW family in two different congregations because we went to the authorities. It’s been a 3yr process since our daughter told us what happened to her and we have had no contact by the Elders since our second conversation with them where we told them CPS was involved. Meanwhile the abuser and his family continued to receive support and are in good standing.
To Fabulously faded: What you have been through is horrible. Can't believe this piece of garbage is still in the congregation. I really hope he goes to jail.
I'm so disgusted by these people, it makes my blood boil.
Hugs to you all, though.
Keep fighting, do not give up. At one stage things looked very bleak in our case against our stepdad but eventually we got it to Court and he was sentenced to 10 years! Sending love to you all. X
@@knorthexjw6369 Didn't know it went to court and he went to jail. Thank goodness!! Really hope he was disfellowshipped too .....although I won't cross my fingers.
Thank you both so much! It’s been a long hard road that hopefully will result in jail time. Thankful our daughter is safe and all of this led to us finally fully waking up and getting our kids away from this destructive cult.
Lloyd, I have watched your videos for a few years now, worried to press the like or even the subscribe button. This interview changed that. Thanks (19 years since I left).
I know at least a half-dozen women that I attended the KH with in the 70's who were being abused by JW step-father including myself. I am beyond disgusted with those who turn a blind eye including my own family. They have been trained not to view or read anything outside of the org but trust me they know there has and is sexual abuse going on. My brother is an elder, he knows what happen to me, but you know if they don't read it, it isn't happening.
I know of several sisters beaten by their husbands and it was hushed up and the sisters suffered badly.
People were threatened by the elders of being DF’d for slander if they told anyone...
...an org. that it is good to not be a part of anymore.
I know of two biological sisters who were sexually abused by their MOTHER for years. She was always answering at meetings and giving great talks in the Min School.
It proves that outward appearance, meeting attendance and ‘works’ of field service are no guide to the real person..
.. and the pharisees, as usual, have it arse about face...
Fantastic interview! Thank you to both sisters for sharing their story and thanks Lloyd for providing the platform.
Kerry, thanks for your courage in sharing these heartbreaking life experiences. You're a lovely young lady. Lloyd, thanks for providing this platform allowing others to share. 💪👏❤❤
Thank-you Lloyd for having this lovely lady on your channel. But a bigger thank-you to you Kerry for helping us to expose this cruel dangerous CULT. You made a extremely good point - "this is still the way child abuse survivors are being handled to this very day, not the long distant past like the CULT leaders would like investigations & inquiry's to believe". Of course I had previously already listened to Lacie's story & how incredibly brave she has been. Much love to you both.
Thank you for your lovely message Robyn x
I’m so sick of hearing these disgusting stories. I hope I live to see the end of this wretched cult
They call out gay people yet they protect pedofilles. It’s outrageous. I’m not gay myself but what double standards
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Despicable organization! It creates loveless hollow people! Thanks Lloyd for being there when others have not.
Lacie you and your sister Kerry have triumphed by speaking up ....all victims thank you!
So hard to watch this. I'm so angry and horrified. Really well done interview, Lloyd...as always.
This makes me hate the criminality of the JW cult even more.
Using this to try and help my Unbaptized boyfriend wake up from this nonsense. He wants me in but I’m getting him out.!! Thanks Lloyd
Good luck Flossie May, I hope you succeed!
John cedars handles this type of conversation and topic on such a professional level.. well done to you John you do an amazing job thank you
Totally agree..... A very humane human and he must never lose this....
If this isn't truth nothing is
He’s a nice guy if he was my brother I’d be proud
He goes by Lloyd Evans now
If you ever criticize Lloyd, even if meant to be constructive, you will quickly learn he is not a particularly "nice guy"
But with that being said, he does navigate these sensitive interviews impressively well. And Lloyd has got to be the JWs worst nightmare. I've seen so many people credit his channel for waking them up.
But this cult of personality Lloyd has developed is undeserving and has gotten to his head in my opinion.
What an absolute sweetie, Kerry is. She speaks well and is fun to watch. Can't believe 3...at this point... downvoters are so brainwashed that they still believe in this cult.
The GB and the borg have SO much to answer for.
I wish my mum would wake up. But she was born in, and has only gotten deeper into it since my grandmother died (what a surprise!). Not a day goes by when her time is taken up by this cult.
Hi there HalaquinnArcadias,
I read your comment and wanted to encourage you to stay strong and always keep laughing if possible.
sincerely Patricia,
(my brothers you tube account).
Same here, my Mum was indoctrinated when her mother died. I can't see her ever coming out of it.
Your cute 💕 would like to meet you
Growing up in the borg, I can't tell you how many remarks my dad made about women causing all the issues in regards to rape, sex assaults, etc etc, and thst it was all their fault. Low cut tops, improper clothing, etc etc. So when I was molested, I just could not tell. I could not bare more judgemental remarks in regards to what he may have thought that I did to cause myself this injustice. I already had to hear day by day about what was wrong with my choices,my friends, schooling or choices to go on to higher education, music, tv shows, everything I did was criticized. So I told no one. I wouldn't have had any consoling, or a empathetic, understanding dad. I would have had a judgemental, blaming, dad who likely would have stood by his religions side and me probably out on the street being blamed for something, again. This is one harmful cult.
A judgemental, blaming dad... Coz all the time he can blame you he doesn't have to deal with the perpetrator. Also known as a coward. I know it is hard for you to hear me say that and for your sensibilities I apologise, but I can tell you that as a father, if someone harmed my kid (or my wife) like this then I'd be in jail for murder. I would take a bullet for my kids, it's a father's role to be the family's defender not another criticising voice when things are bad enough already.
Snow White, sorry your Dad was such a weak person, that tends to be a trend within the JW’s, they are either extremely weak or narcissistic, but remember this in no way reflects badly on you and nothing that happened to you was your fault.
so sorry for your pain.
Thank you Lloyd. The work you do continuously is helping so many people. It is so lovely to see.
"To realize you've never had the unconditional love of your family." Amen. It's mind-blowing.
I watched Lacie's interview a few weeks ago and like I commented there its so brilliant to see people like you happy and full of joy for life despite your ordeal. A successful life is the best revenge.
@18:00 this happens more frequently re the "adultery" escape clause for married couples to get "scripturally" divorced. I just watched an interview where the former JW young woman "confessed" to adultery in order to free her ex-husband to remarry and her to leave the organisation and I have heard of other cases where one spouse actually engaged in an extramarital affair to get free to remarry
Really enjoyed this video and Bravo Kerry, brilliantly said and expressed!!👍
Leave it in Jehovah’s hand should be trade mark. All the elders most meet in a room and advise to use it when they have no answers to their wrong doing.
Thank you for speaking up and for showing what unconditional love is May you and your sister Lacie continue to show the light on the darkness of this cult.
I am so glad you were able to be there for your sister.
5:18
“Were you baptized?”
- It doesn’t really matter if you’re not baptized as a Jehovah’s Witness. You could still get shunned anyway. Many Jehovah’s Witnesses think being baptized is just a trivial technicality.
The public as to know so they can't catch more innocent vulnerable family. The one inside as to wake themselfe up .we did and its a slow lingering process incredible harder than expected. Not impossible to finally be free happy. Were not alone thank you Loyd and all the one who speak up tell the truth.
This is such a sad sad story! The organisation is so off the charts. My heart goes out to you all. Unfortunately it’s not uncommon. My extended family and myself have had similar experiences. ☹️
Great video Lloyd. One thing I realize is how many of us XJW'S are programmed through guilt and shame to be co-dependant so to speak on how we should be forever caregivers if not physically but at least to some degree emotionally to bad behaving individuals especially our family. I think it is reinforced because of shunning experience. The organization truly acts as a Narcissistic and we don't even recognize it. Dr. Ramani had great you tube video's under glossary of a Narcisstic Personality Disorder. It was an eye opener for me. Great interview.
Kerry, thank you for doing this interview! You're a loyal sister with integrity.♥
Thank you Kerry for being there for your sister. Hopefully your mom will wake up from her slumber one day. Very happy to hear your parents lost the court battle and your other little sister was not sacrificed to this evil organisation. It's very true what you said about your mom, most JWs I know are sad and depressed individuals. It must be very hard to go through every waking hour thinking the world will end any minute now and you haven't done enough. No JW ever feels they have done enough, they have no peace in their hearts
What a brilliant interview. I love Kerry's honesty so much. Ouch.. that line where you realise you have never been unconditionally loved.. that's hitting me harder and harder as I get older. What an absolutely evil religion.
Kerry, I’m so happy you get to have your sister for this trip. Hoping any one of my siblings join me. Much love!
"control that the organization has...." Well said Kerry.
I usually comment under another name Skyfly. But today I stand up proud to use my own name. Proud to have been reunited with you and your sister. Proud of the beautiful women you have grown into. Proud that you have both been so strong to stand up to this cult and have shared your stories to help others. But at the same time so thoroughly ashamed that I too had been sucked in many years ago. Initially I too had made bad decisions in order to keep good standing in a cult. Then wasted 20 years of my life trying not to loose my offspring that are still in but unable to loose the two that woke up. We have all been damaged by these people I am truly sorry for that.
Proud of you being yourself Barbara Stokes!! I was essentially a born-in, but lots of time spent in the library at school (missing out on birthdays and holidays, etc) ...time well spent educating myself about the real world, but it still took until a few years ago to acknowledge all my doubts and research them! Been out 2 years, officially announced a year ago! Yay!! Life is so much better and I'm getting better at not being afraid to be me!
I used to know a Bill Stokes from California, he took his life over this religion. Beautiful man
Thank you aunty Barbara
Love you xx
You know why mum is upset and depressed?
She has done so much “for Jehovah” hoping to see her mother but she feels deep down inside that it’s not enough to get her into the new system!
That would eat away at her soul!!!
I am so so grateful that Lacey had/has Kerry in her life. They are both fighters, even when they shouldn't have had to be.
Her mom sounds exactly like my mother. Very miserable and depressed and talks about paradise every waking hour of her life and how she will see her mother.its heartbreaking to watch
Hi Lloyd. I love watching your channel. If I am having a bad day I click on one of your videos and not be upset anymore. Even if It is during school that I watch one of your videos I can always come back to it. Thank you for posting these videos.
Shouldn’t you be on a zoom call right now mav?
“Leave it in the hands of Jehovah” means “Leave it in the hands of the Governing Body and their policies.”
What would Jesus do with those eight grandiose old men sitting in their compound designing & enforcing callous policies that put reputation first and innocents last? I’d like to think they’d be in for the treatment he gave the Money Changers.
And what is Jehovah doing with his hands? I wouldn't leave Jehovah alone with my kids
I am sad for the loss of family bonds and be loved with those conditions.. It's such a bad religion.. Wish them a good life and hope your mom will wake up one day.. 💕
Thanks Kerry. You are brave and determined.
You helping others man, keep it up and my sentiments for all who suffers by the watchtower hand
I was involved In the 1998 panarama programme. My son was abused by a ministerial servant who served 5 years. It shocks me too see these things still happening. What happened too my family was horrendous.. Too see the gb still hiding these sick people is disgraceful.. After listening too this interview it brought back so many memories... I feel deeply for this young lady.. Everything she says is so true very very similar too the response we got from our elders at the time... Too think this is being covered up 25 years after our experience. Shows the gb too be tottaly evil... You never forget the way they treat you... We were made too feel guilty. For telling the police...... I hope something will happen soon too close this awful cult down.. Best wishes
Lloyd, When I left almost 14 years ago now I moved away as well. Even though they know I'm living with and in a relationship with a disfellowshipped bf and they have even spoken with us and I'm not an elders child and nobody has dfd me either.
The ending to your videos is amazing.
Thank You so much for your efforts, You are saving lives. Jerimiah 11:11. Peace and love and JUSTICE and FREEDOM. AMEN.
I made it to the end! Excellent journalism Thank You so much for sharing the truth.
This whole interview blew me away. Thank you Lloyd. Thank you Kerry. And Lacie in the previous video. Thank you all for articulating so beautifully the world and experiences I could relate to...Kerry you are a woman of substance and integrity and all your words hit home. One of the most compelling things you said was about your mothers happiness. SO TRUE. My mother is one of the most devout JW’s yet is truly the most miserable woman I know. The anguish and misery has been etched on her face for decades. But then she’s also the most callous and cold hearted woman I’ve ever known too. But I digress. Lloyd I have been binge watching your channel and I will be purchasing the book mentioned here also. I’ve been disfellowshipped for nearly 20 years but the wounds run deep. Thank you so much for bringing light to the shadows.
"Every time, the religion has been chosen over the children. And, you know, that's a hard realization to come to. That your parents love this cult more than their own children."
Wow. That's just so accurate and so devastating. And we've all seen it over and over. The cult is put first over children every single time.
Tell me about it, seen it first hand.
Thankfully Kerry was there when her sister really needed help and still maintains the closeness. Although she got a shock at how the org really is, it got me to thinking maybe this is the orgs way of sacrificing to their evil god! I hope more can see the true evil side to this wicked cult!
Lacie is and always was an amazing person! I’m so incredibly grateful that you had your sister to confide in! I remember times when people would murmur about the visits to her and I just shudder to think where you’d be if you’d have shunned her!!!
Sending you lots of love!!!!
Typical ..witnesses always love looking down on so called worldly people, very sad really and evil .
I can definitely relate to Kerry. I too left was married , then divorced two years later. ( Long story he was abusive) I left because I realized I did not have a scriptural divorce. ( I had no idea that was a thing , before I got baptized) I wrote a disassociation letter. I spent most of my adult life still kinda believing.. knowing that God would kill me because I just couldn't conform to the org. I wanted no part of it.
And my parents faced the no blood thing, but with my niece. I was 13. My parents had custody of her. They refused and child protection services took over and gave her the blood she is now ,35 years old and a mom of two boys.
Also, I am a survivor of sexual abuse. I've also had my round about in circles with the elders .
I'd also like to commend you, Kerry for being a voice, for your sister, and being there for her, having her back. I too have 5 siblings. 4 sisters one brother.
One sister still being in. But none of my siblings have my back or are loyal to me. None of them would fight for me or protect me. In fact, some of them are still in contact with my abusers ( plural) they still have the indoctrination of the WT, where you are supposed to forgive and treat that person as if nothing happened.
So , I've gone no contact with them. They are toxic. my parents are old people. still devote JW. My contact with them is very limited. Because they welcome my abusers in their home. Take them out to dinner etc... As if nothing happened. And my abusers have NEVER been before a judge, not even an elder tribunal!
Because I didn't speak about it until I was an adult. Many years have gone by now , so I guess my DNA sharers feel it's ok now. ..
I am so sorry to read your comment.
It makes me very sad. The indoctrination and control within the cult is very dangerous. One of the Elders on our stepdad's judicial committee even told my sister, his victim, what a good Elder he had been (whilst secretly being a paedophile for 10 years!). Lacie did not speak of her abuse until 2019, 10 years later. It's never too late to speak out. It disgusts me how many abusers within the cult are left untouched, in good standing in the congregation, easily able to abuse again! The victims are often scared to go against the cult. I will be eternally grateful that I was in a position to support Lacie and give her the roots & wings she was denied by our parents & the cult!
Sending you much love. It must be heartbreaking seeing your parents welcome your abusers into their home.
As I said in my interview with Lloyd, those of us born into the cult have often never experienced unconditional love. X
@@knorthexjw6369 you've got that right about never experienced unconditional love. It's so warped. Ha ! Makes me laugh! Your elder step dad a victim!?! Ha! Let me tell ya something, I don't understand why or what makes a person sexually attracted to children. I've read up on it, some say mental illness, or the brain is wired wrong from birth. Could be a need for power and control , could be due to them being abused as a child? But regardless of whatever the reason, they ARE NOT a victim of the crime they perpetrated against that child!!
They had a CHOICE! Period! It would be like saying the drunk driver, who just killed a family of 5 because they were driving drunk. But the reason why they were drunk was because they were upset because they just got fired from their job, earlier that day.. so actually the drunk is a victim too.
Sounds ridiculous right? And why? Because drunk or not, that person still made the choice to drink and drive. Which is a crime. Same as abusing a child, it's a crime!
BTW, as far as me going after my abusers, regarding the JWs I don't have a case against the organization. And besides that, it's been more than ten years, more than 20.. my family knows who abused me. They believe it, but, choose to dismiss it , since, Im assuming, that many years have past and it's like well, Jen ( my name) us ok now.. I mean idk what goes on in their heads?? Seriously though, could you ever, sit down in a restaurant and share a meal with your step dad now?
I will never be able to wrap my mind around that. It's what my parents did. And I'm sure they paid for the meal. Treated the guy like he was a long time old friend, ( he actually is, the son of my parents jw friend for the the past 40+ years) I was 4 years old. Thus my profile pic & and name. Just think about that, I mean it was about, 8 years ago, my mom told me how they went to dinner with him and his mother who was visiting. I'm an adult, 40 something years old, and even though I was 4 when it happened, I will deal with the mental and emotional damage it caused for the rest of my life. How can any parent , do that?? Because no matter how old a child gets, that child will always be a parent's baby. How could they even look at him and not see their 4 year old baby? Knowing how I have struggled for most of my life coping with the affects of what he did? It just blows my mind.
And then, my sister.. her 1st husband raped me, then thought it would be ok to tell his upstairs neighbor ( my sisters then later brother in-law. After she divorced her husband she married her neighbors brother) and he sexually assaulted me. I was 13. My sister remains in contact with her ex-husband. She even refers to him as her " family" never mind he raped her little sister! My sister even used what he did to me, against him so he would sign the divorce papers. My parents used what he did to me to get him to sign off on the house they bought he and my sister when they got married. Threatening him with the authorities. But it was just a threat. No one went to the police in. Because even he was not a JW , he had been associated sooo.. you know how it goes about reproach etc... Funny thing though, that same sister was raped at 14-15 years old by a 50 year old man that worked for my dad. My sister told my parents when she was 18. Only three years later, but guess what? Did my parents go to the cops? A big fat NO!! And why? Because if they did, it would stain our family name, and since we were JW, it could possibly bring reproach on the congregation... Even though this guy was worldly ..
But that's the SICK mind bending reasoning the JWs have.
When in all actuality, loyalty, to your own flesh and blood, and protection of your children at any age, IS natural human affection, natural human instinct. But the cult brainwashes their members into denying natural human affection and destroy families beyond recognition.. my sister was never baptized. She is 56 years old and she still believes that the JWs are gods people even though she does not attend meetings since she was about 20 years old! And there is so much more I could tell you about each of my siblings ,how each of them have betrayed me. Showing more loyalty to my abusers than their own flesh and blood. I haven't even mentioned my JW ex husband and his parents kidnapping my 5 month old baby.. and how my parents and siblings now treat him as if he did nothing. + He had been sexually abusing his younger siblings. But I guess since so many years passed, and he wasn't officially charged ,due to lack of evidence even though he admitted to it, I guess in my parents and siblings eyes, he's cured now... And they welcome him, stay connected to him etc... It's really insane.
Not too late..
I was molested when was 6 years old by a guy in the kingdom hall. He never got in trouble. They told me jehovah forgave him and I need to do what jehovah wants me to do..to forgive him. They told us we couldnt tell anyone what happened not the police or friends or family.
I was disfelowshiped at 18 for having a bf out of the religion yet I was still a virgin. I never went back and after being shunned is when I woke up. It's been 10 years now. And till this day my mom who is inactive says she did everything she possibly could for me with that situation. And when I tell her it's a big problem of them covering up child sexual abuse she says 'so does other religions and no one is perfect". Pisses me off.
I was a passive POMO for 20 years. Since I woke up three years ago (thanks to all the youtube activists), I warn everyone about this cult!! It’s simple form of activism that can save someone from getting sucked in.
I left in 1990. Walked out of the meeting and never went back after my husband and Iseperated. Not disfellowshipped.
7 yrs later my brother stopped attending. Never disfellowshiped.
Then my sister and her husband stopped attending. They they split up. She is not disfellowshipped
I wonder if the started clamping down in the last 20years?
Kerry's "Worldly", complete outsider, Husband must be losing his mind with all of this. For an Ex-JW this whole situation is completely F'd up... Being a complete outsider, always opposed to the religion, argued with the family about how bonkers the religion is and now this? This whole situation is just so F'd up.
The BOE knew of Cliff’s problem and never pursued Kerry for fear of her knowing and or bringing up Cliffs child sexual abuse
I am so very sorry for the abuse her sister endured.
The indoctrination from this Doomsday cult is so strong that it often takes something as tragic and painful as this to wake members up.
My heart goes out to her and all those who have suffered abuse and their families.
I actually knew a woman who's husband was caught cheating by their young daughter. The husband was never d/f because he moved states before meeting with elders. Crazy
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Thumbs up to you, Kerry and Lacie, for getting out of that heartless and false cult. Thank you for sharing your story, albeit a shocking one about the Watchtower Society and Jehovah's Witnesses. Although I am not a Jehovah's Witness nor have I ever been one, I have heard a lot of bad press about the organization. I hope you are recovering from the indoctrination. Much love to you.
I hope all these abused victims join Heather Steele & go after the Governing Body!!!!!
Which Heather Steele do you mean?
How do you know Heather Steele
"I can remember the last time I saw my mom happy." - That's how I feel about every J-Dub I know.
Amazing testimony of the structure and exactly how it works dealing with this religion - made me cry as lots of it rings true 😢 good news is their eyes are opened and I hope Lacy recovers
Loyd thank you for having this channel. It has helped me to have ammunition for the future if my parents try to push the religion on me or my daughter. They have left it alone for the most part for now. I think they don’t want to open that can of worms with me.
Thank you Lloyd for your channel. I appreciate all the information I have learned, listening to your casts. As an
ex- Jehovah's Witness myself. I have worked very hard to find out everything I can about whether or not God exist or is just propaganda of man and their inhibitions to rule and make rules to repress Society. I appreciate and agree how you're informing as to the information that is right there in the vary book they try to prove their side with. I would like to talk more about everything, and all the questions that has cluttered my brain for so many years. But for now. Thank you so very much.
Your a very caring person Lloyd.
Thank you so much for your kind words I have faded. I'm free from this cult too.
I have never discussed this with anyone but I was abused by an elder in my hall who is dead now. I was 14. I was embarrassed, and depressed my whole life living with it and not even my parents know. I basically dropped out of high school because I became so awkward and introverted after it happened. I feel so sick now thinking about what happened and that other elders knew and did nothing but seeing videos like help a little...
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Bizarre by JW rules that she was never DFd....SO many have been DFd despite their moving and plenty have been DFd in absentia, without ever contacting the person. The elders totally broke the rules in *not DFing her.
It happens sometimes. My baptised ex-fiancé has never been disfellowshipped to this day and he had a child out of wedlock
Hi there Lloyd 🙂 Today's 'Daily Text' sure doubles down on the fact that they are not giving up the 2 or 3 witness stance. Infuriating. Plus the fearmongering on the latest group of videos at JW.Org is plain crazy-making. Thank goodness for the mental oasis you provide Lloyd. 👍
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire
Trading what is good now for heaven later. Her mum sounds like she needs counselling to get over her grief - this has underlined my belief that telling people you’ll meet your dead loved ones in heaven blocks the chance to heal. Brave girls.
Thank you Lloyd and Kerry for sharing this story.
My friend and her family had to run and leave everything behind tell no one where she went and start a new life. Why didnt the elders step in and protect them...
I can only imagine at the poor mental state of the nine downvoters
Thank you for sharing Kerry, sorry you & your family have been so abused by WT & thank you Lloyd for your interview. Re Blood transfusions & infants. Recently here in Australia a JW baby needed a blood transfusion due to leukemia. The direction from the branch was to ALLOW the hospital to transfuse because the courts would enforce it anyway. However a few years ago another couple stood firm in not allowing blood for their child for a liver transplant as directed by WT, I remember they were hounded by the media. I don't remember the outcome, I hope they allowed it. But it just shows what a back peddling double standard evil interfering organisation WT is! Run by weak feeble minded heartless creatures giving directions from the safety & cover of Coward's Castle.
I'm so grateful for Lloyd's work, uncovering the hideous face behind the JW mask. And deèply respect Kerry and Lacie for their courage and emotional strength in sharing their story.
back in 1992 i knew a JW elder that had 4 kids from his wife. his wife was his sister. no wonder his kids looked a weeeee bit off center. he did finaly got found out.
It happens to many in JW's households. My cousin's he elder step father did inappropriate sexual things to her.😢
Another adventure in bizarro town.
One elder told me once that if you no longer identify as one of Jehovah’s witnesses then there is no reason to consider meeting a person in order to disfellowship him or her. I live in Canada so I wander how different this is from other countries!
The "inactive" loophole
i like when John interviews people it reminds me of shunnedpodcast. Another you tuber
Shunnedpodcast was what saved me
USA: “wow that’s fucked up.”
UK: “Just absolutely astonishing.”
I've never been this early! I've never been a jehovah's witness, and only really met them in passing, but what I hear is horrifying, and growing up in a Baptist household and seeing the Jehovahs witnesses distortions and crimes against the text they uphold is absolutely disgusting, it's one thing to be hypocritical, it's another to perpetuate a lie as destructive as JWs. It's one thing to interpret something, and another to add entirely new claims to it. All Christians sects cherry pick it, but I will admit that a few (within certain organizations) follow the text, at points to a fault
Baptists distort the Bible too?
Yeah, I would agree with that. After all, each Christian sects cherry-picks from the Bible what they like and ignore the rest.
@@pansepot1490 That's kind of what I was saying, but as I reread my comment I edited it to further elaborate my thoughts. I think baptists are a lot closer to the text than JW, even if they fall short of it. We're human, most of us want what's comfortable for us, not what an all powerful being wants.
I found out when I was around 21 or 22 that my dad molested my little sister when she was 9 and continued into her teens. She told the elders, and he confessed, he has been DF but never let the religion go. He still lived his life like he was a JW. My sister is still a JW, he is in a assistance living with dementia. He should be in prison.
Ya know... They don't have to approve of how we live. I never expected my JW family to approve of my life. My grandmother didn't, but she overlooked that. She kept contact with me. We just didn't discuss some things and I was ok with that. But my other JW relatives (and old friends) just CHOOSE to not have contact. And my mother wasn't happy either. She spent her 75 years miserable in order to be in a new order that probably won't ever happen. My aunt and uncle are very happy as JWs. He's a traveling Overseer (or whatever it's called now) and they live an all expenses paid life. They have nice cars, lovely homes, the admiration of all witnesses they meet, and probably truly believe that the future promises eternity in paradise. And I AM HAPPY FOR THEM! I accept their lifestyle. And it lifts my heart to know they are so happy! Now...why can't they reciprocate? I've become an evolved and happier person throughout my life. But they refuse to even consider getting to know me, let alone feeling happy for me. There is no doubt this religion IS A CULT.
1:05:15 My favorite line
Lloyd why do you spend so much time doing what you do
Do you do it for your channel?
Or to help those who need what you believe , in the long run helps them to see what you see ?
Its a tough one.
I ask because I try every day to help my wife to wake up and ends up her aggressively saying
" you are an apostate"
I believe I'm being loving ❤.
To a witness we are Satan
I'd like to meet Cliff. I could... "convert" him and it would be a pleasure to help.
I'm ashamed to say that I like your comment....but I do.
WOW!
*Holy Cat Poop*, I've just started healing as well, finding out these horrific child-abuse issues!!!
(This is my brother's you tube; aka Patricia).
I was re-watching and had a thought that *Q. With knowing and proving the elders were lying about the documents, Is that perjury*! My bad, the *shepherding book's loopholes fix that*!
17 years old? Parents are going to jail in most countries if they do that. You’re legally still a minor, an adult has to be providing shelter for you.
Great interview its sad but family is who you end up with not what you start with.
When she said, I'll be destroyed Armageddon anyway. I really wanted to laugh it seemed funny for some reason cuz I heard that so many times. Sounds like such a joke, to me now. But it's not funny back then. Back then when I was in Kingdom Hall congregation's.
Shocking that a mother could be so blinded.