Sana actively tries to improve her Korean even today. When she’s aware of a pronunciation mistake or when she finds a word she doesn’t know she’ll be fixing those pronunciation mistakes by next time and she’ll be using those words too. Momo has improved her vocabulary a lot!!! But she’s not as careful with her pronunciation.. as most foreigners. Like you said, it’s harder to have a native- like accent when you learn a language at an older age and both Sana and Momo started to learn Korean at 16. (Mina at 17 I think? And tzuyu 13)
I feel like most of the people would think that it's enough when they get to the high proficiency level ,but the fact that Sana tries to improve her Korean even more says a lot about her 😊
Possibly also the fact that they had to practice speaking as soon as they got to Korea, and speaking too much early on reinforces some bad habits which could be avoided if there is a "silent period" of just gaining understanding and hearing the diff between all the sounds for example the double consonants. If you can't fully hear the difference it is very difficult to produce it yourself.
Sana's just a great speaker in general. She has that natural quick, fluid speech no matter the language and if you hear her speak in the Nizi Project finale she sounds like an actual professional Japanese MC/anchor. I looked up from my game I was playing to see if they hired some Japanese entertainer to MC the show but it was just her lol. So it's pretty great seeing her thrive in Korean. It's only going to continue to get better as her vocabulary and fluency catch up to her speaking ability. EDIT: idk if you cover it but before I forget, you're pulling clips from all over the last 5 years or so. I'm sure there's some obvious improvements in vocabulary and overall fluency in that time, so just keep that in mind in future analyses if you don't touch on it at some point.
Sana is actually often (affectionately) called "native Korean Sana" in variety shows and such cause she speaks very confidently and seems to know words & expressions (and thinks of them on the spot) that even the Korean Twice members don't think of.
When you said that something Momo does well is that she's good at naturally using idioms, it reminded me of that one knowing bros episode where she says "Momo got dumped for another woman" and Heechul is like "??? Where did you learn that expression" haha This video is so cool!!
@@amin5879 I'm curious to know as to why you think that :) I am not learning Korean, but Italian, but even I like watching these videos just for the curiosity (even inspiration). I've always heard Sana is the better speaker of Twice, and presumably other K-pop foreign idols. Other Koreans or non-Koreans who are fans could say the same, but I wouldn't really be one to know all of the nuances of course. At least from a surface level, Sana is a better speaker than the others (Mina, Momo and Tzuyu). All ears.
I think (G) I-dle foreigners line could actually be really interesting to analyze, I mean they're young, Minnie is Thai, Yuqi is from mainland China and Suhua is Taiwanese, so it's quite diverse in addition, the mistakes and cute particularities should sound really differently from one member to the other ^^ Edit: Thanks for all the likes, I really hope he will take this request in consideration ^^'
I love seeing the non-native Korean celebrities speaking Korean. They make so many cute mistakes or phrases and it makes me appreciate my own special way of speaking Korean as well! The foreign boys in NCT are pretty fun if you're looking for it!
You should definitely do more of these videos. They are very enjoyable and educational. Hopefully it will help all of us to avoid the same mistakes. And you seem to be enjoying doing these videos, so even more reason for you to do more.
Of course you have to do Mina and Tzuyu now ^^ Btw... There is an "ng" sound in Japanese - in fact there is only "ng" sounds at the end of words that don't end with a vowel because the only consonant that can be used without a vowel is the ん n which is pronounced ng (just like the korean 응)... So 鞄 kaban is pronounced kabang just like the korean 가방 ^^
If anyone is interested in the phonetics behind this, the Japanese final "n" sound is the uvular nasal [ɴ]. This sound sound not exist in Korean and is subsisted by the similar sounding velar nasal [ŋ].
@@Nifuruc That depends on where the “ん” is. Sometimes it depends on the speaker too. For example, 看板 is pronounced as _kanban_ , _kamban_ , or _kambang_ . You wouldn’t hear any Japanese pronounce it as _kangbang_ though 🙂
4:50 billy having a life crisis in the middle of the video hahah but really though, these videos are fun !! and they're actually rather beneficial, it makes me tune into my pronunciation more :) i'm excited to see you critique some idols that are native english speakers so i can tune into problems that i, as an english speaker, have when i speak korean !!
I really admire momo & sana for learning Korean through speaking, it’s something that is really hard for me so I really depend on learning the writing and reading when I first learn a new language
I actually love watching Jessi get better at Korean as she does more reality shows(even though she has been living there a long time). Maybe you could show us as English speakers how to fix or get better at speaking Korean like Jessi does. By speaking and making mistakes.
I remember once seeing a tumblr post a long time ago of a korean explaining the way bts members spoke. like how each member chooses their words, their tone and organized their sentences in a way that was telling about their age, their intellect and just how it matched to their personality in general. I'd love to see you do a video like this, where you could grab their (or other idols) casual videos and tell us what type of feeling it transmits to fluent/ative speakers. I hope this makes some sense 😅😅
In Dutch is the same letter o but it depends on whether it is followed by 1 or 2 consonants (or is at the end of a word). If you know the basics of a few European languages, you can map all the Korean sounds. For me that's Dutch, French and English/American (for the distinction between 애 and 에)
@@insertnamehere4833 Good point. There is no sound in the Western European languages that corresponds with 으. There are a few that come close but the flat line represents the shape of the mouth and it took me a long time to figure out how to do that properly :D
honestly billy, your books and videos have helped me so much (especially with pronunciation) that I would argue that you are a perfect Korean speaker! thank you!
Thanks for this, it's very interesting 👍 That's why Sana's nickname is Kim Sana😄 and even Twice's korean members are envious of her penmanship😂 I wish you reacted to some recent Momo vids too (like you did for Sana's vids) because I think her korean got a bit better over the last 3-4 yrs.
Please do Jun, The8, and Joshua from the group called SEVENTEEN. Jun and The8 are the Chinese members while Joshua is a pure Korean but who lives and born in LA who doesn’t know korean at all before joining the company. They only learned speaking korean while they’re still in their trainee years, and even though it’s been years i still find some cute mistakes and pronunciation from them. I’m not saying it’s bad though i just would like to see how Teacher Billy analyze their pronunciation, grammars, etc. stuffs ^^
YES! She reads Korean perfectly too! There are some "end of the year" shows in which she hosts... search for "Sana hosting gayo" or something, these shows have "Gayo" in the name, and she's reading those things they read when presenting shows and she's perfect at that.
Lmao sana is more confident speaking Korean then me speaking English, like you tell me to explain my essay to my teacher I get my words mixed up and I never say anything I want😤😭
@@MrCommentor2 they do but since they're bilingual i'd like to see how billy rates their korean! especially with felix, he started learning it around the age sana + momo did too without knowing the language before!
Firstly, love the pics in the background. Secondly, I hope to be so good at Korean one day that people have to nitpick to find errors. Maybe a few decades from now...
From my understanding, Japanese does technically have "consonant doubling," at least insofar as how it's expressed in Romaji, but I think their "double" consonants (which are denoted by the use of before the consonant being emphasized in Hiragana and in Katakana) are still "softer" than Korean ones, and it really affects length more than intensity.
This is so fun as a kpop fan, but also quite enlightening! Even though I’m nowhere near the girls’ level of Korean, this pronunciation analysis really helped me correct some mistakes I had no idea I was making
Makes sense why a native Japanese speaker would make the mistake 치〜즈. The Japanese equivalent is チーズ (chiizu), which has a long vowel. As a Japanese speaker with hardly any Korean skills, I find Sana and Momo amazing! A lot of the words are similar but I find Korean pronunciation so difficult!
Momo & Sana really try their best, i honestly thought that for native Japanese speakers Korean was easier than for Americans or Europeans but it isn’t, im really trying to learn it (Im Belgian) but its kind of hard so i really admire other people who aren’t native Korean speakers when they talk korean and they really motivate me to learn to speak, wirte and read it. Sana and Momo are a big example for me and i really enjoyed you reacting to their speaking. :)
I love watching these videos! It helps me a lot with my pronunciation and I learn new words. Thank you Billy 🤗 It would be fun to see a video about Jackson (Got7) and Lay (Exo) sometime in the future if/when you have time 😁 Sending love from Serbia ❤
Yall when he said “I wish momo was my korean teacher even though I would learn much” is cause he is fluent already. She probably can’t teach him any words he doesn’t know XD
Its so interesting how people’s personalities change based on their language they are speaking, ive seen that happen to a lot of people I wonder why. Maybe its the levee of comfort you have in the language or how you see native speakers speak it or think of the language that affects it! So cool!
Sana's nickname isn't Kim Sana for no reason 😂 Hi Billy, thank you for doing a video about Sana, she inspired me to learn Korean. I hope I can be half as good as her. 😭❤️
very happy with how respectful you were, especially since you aren’t a native Korean speaker. I would love to see a video like this on Stray Kid’s Felix and NCT’s Lucas
the nitpicking is kinda helpful for me learning though hahahaha, don't feel too bad. the not understanding the korean until after sana has read something is so interesting omg
I find Sana impressive but all of them are so cool, I've learned four languages others than mine easily but I find korean pronunciation hard that it makes me give up easily so I learn to understand more but not for talking
thank you for the videos Billy! As a student sometimes learning the language seems impossible and that everyone just "got it" but me, but seeing you point out mistakes albeit very small that non native celebrities make and improve makes me feel better with learning, everyone makes mistakes! We're all forever learning and improving 감사합니다! ♥
Sana's sound pretty natural compared to most foreign idols, you can tell she worked really hard on it. Yuqi and Minnie from G-Idle are also pretty good!
thank you so much for the video!!! Sana is by far the best at korean of the four of them, but they all have improved a lot. please do mina and tzuyu next!!!
Hi Billy, after you do the Tzuyu and Mina video, I think you should do Dita and Léa, the Indonesian and Japanese members of new Rookie Of The Year girl group Secret Number. They're both interesting cases because Dita is the very first Indonesian kpop girl group idol and Léa even though she's just debuted, is actually has been around the industry even longer than most Twice members. Dita's Korean has been improving by leaps and bounds lately and Léa's Korean has always been commented as really fluent by other people. I think a critique video for both of them would be really interesting. Thanks 🙏🏼
I'd recommend Renjun from NCT! As a Chinese member of the youngest subunit, he started learning Korean pretty young so he usually hears a lot of compliments that he speaks really well. I wonder what you would think! For most foreign idols that I personally follow, I can usually hear a small difference in accent but Renjun sounds pretty good.
Can you do a series on NCT's foreign members? There are so many of them LOL. Yuta, Kun, Ten, Winwin, Lucas, Xiaojun, Hendery, Renjun, Yangyang, Shotaro and Chenle.
If there is one thing I'd critique about Sana's Korean, it's that she tends to speak in a way that makes her words a little slurred-sounding, rather than clear and distinct. But this is the case only some of the time. All in all, she's probably the best Korean speaker out of all foreign idols. Yuqi might be a close second.
It's time to bring this back 😌 JYPE's girl group NiziU just debuted in Korea, and they are all Japanese. It would be fun to see you analyze their Korean (they've been learning for 3 years)
omg this is the first video i have watched out of this series of you grading idols and their korean and this was so cute and informational at the same time. i love twice lol and this made me smile. can’t wait to see more!!!
Grade G-idle shuhua's korean speaking please. she has a compilation in youtube struggling speaking in korean. she always pronounce yeoreobun as yeobbun.
I’m a native English speaker and I think the same as you. His English speaking voice and pronunciation are very clear and precise. I think the same can be said for his Korean as well. Good luck🤗
thank you for this!! i've always been interested in the korean of foreign idols because although they are very familiar with the language and sound so, there must be some differences! this is so interesting ahhh
in some past clips sana has said she was motivated to learn korean fast because she's quite sociable and didn't like feeling left out/alone when she couldn't understand the other trainees. So it's probably true that she mainly learned through speaking and listening, rather than reading or doing textbook worksheets. She also recommended fans to learn through watching variety shows so i bet she probably learned through that too
I’m not surprised Sana speaks Korean really well. You can see how she worked really hard. When TWICE first debuted, she still tried her best to speak in Korean even though her Korean skills wasn’t as good as it is now. Because of how opened she was to making mistakes, her Korean skills really improved a lot. And also, Sana is a really good active learner. She can easily pick up phrases when she listens to others communicating. E.g When Tzuyu communicates with her parents, she was able to pick up a few mandarin phrases just from hearing Tzuyu speak. And from a native Mandarin speaker perspective, she got her tone right, which is really difficult even for a Japanese or a Korean to get the tone right.
This is really cool! I even ended up catching some new words. It’d be interesting to have, as a special episode, a review of your Korean, Billy, by a native Korean teacher. Thanks for your teachings. Keep it up!
I love this breakdown of their Korean! When you’re finished with Twice may I suggest Mark, Jackson and Bambam from GOT7? They’re all from different countries (USA, Hong Kong and Thailand). Thank you for the interesting content Billy :)
I see signs that Billy is becoming a Once (Twice fandom name)😂😂😂 Also, for someone that is struggling with hangul, i found this video encouraging. Seeing how Sana became so good and Momo improved over the years is good to a begginer being confident.
These videos are so fun!! Itd be also super interesting tomaybe venture into boygroups. Especially NCT/WAYV, since theyre so diverse and sometimes mix multiple languages together. Some of them also havent been long in korea at all!! For example the new member shotaro, or their chinese unit WAYV, that would be so cool to see!
TWICE's foreign line gives me so much hope as Korean learner. They often explain their learning styles on vlive and encourage new learners to keep going. Each member has a unique way of speaking so it's easy to tell who is who even through vlive chat.
Using TWICE as a gateway to learning anything is praiseworthy. Also, I am the language nerd/Twice stan who googled for a video like this. Your trilingual insights are a full on flex tbh. Respect!
![[LEGEND EP. 428 -2]TWICE & RUNNINGMAN Are Doing 'Eating A Lot At Once' Game (ENG-IND Sub)](/img/1.gif)
Sana actively tries to improve her Korean even today. When she’s aware of a pronunciation mistake or when she finds a word she doesn’t know she’ll be fixing those pronunciation mistakes by next time and she’ll be using those words too.
Momo has improved her vocabulary a lot!!! But she’s not as careful with her pronunciation.. as most foreigners.
Like you said, it’s harder to have a native- like accent when you learn a language at an older age and both Sana and Momo started to learn Korean at 16. (Mina at 17 I think? And tzuyu 13)
I feel like most of the people would think that it's enough when they get to the high proficiency level ,but the fact that Sana tries to improve her Korean even more says a lot about her 😊
Sana also know how to speak in accent
I love Sana's cheese Kimbap😁sana
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Possibly also the fact that they had to practice speaking as soon as they got to Korea, and speaking too much early on reinforces some bad habits which could be avoided if there is a "silent period" of just gaining understanding and hearing the diff between all the sounds for example the double consonants. If you can't fully hear the difference it is very difficult to produce it yourself.
As a korean I respect people who learn korean bcz i know it is hard to learn 화이팅!!!ㅎㅎ
Thanks for being kind
@@maryambahakim2125 😊
@@chocolatebanana8375 😊👍👍
No, its hard at first before start learning but then it's easy, it's my opinion,
@@kkalmatchoom761 yeah but after learning 한글 and some basics it's not hard anymore
Sana's just a great speaker in general. She has that natural quick, fluid speech no matter the language and if you hear her speak in the Nizi Project finale she sounds like an actual professional Japanese MC/anchor. I looked up from my game I was playing to see if they hired some Japanese entertainer to MC the show but it was just her lol. So it's pretty great seeing her thrive in Korean. It's only going to continue to get better as her vocabulary and fluency catch up to her speaking ability. EDIT: idk if you cover it but before I forget, you're pulling clips from all over the last 5 years or so. I'm sure there's some obvious improvements in vocabulary and overall fluency in that time, so just keep that in mind in future analyses if you don't touch on it at some point.
Sana is actually often (affectionately) called "native Korean Sana" in variety shows and such cause she speaks very confidently and seems to know words & expressions (and thinks of them on the spot) that even the Korean Twice members don't think of.
When you said that something Momo does well is that she's good at naturally using idioms, it reminded me of that one knowing bros episode where she says "Momo got dumped for another woman" and Heechul is like "??? Where did you learn that expression" haha This video is so cool!!
Technically you can do word to word translation from Japanese to Korean, and sometimes it work also for idioms.
Sana speaks korean so well that koreans call her Kim Sana, since she sounds like a native speaker
Kim Sana is also a nickname she gave herself too and she deserves it! 😆😆
@@PokeTwilight 金 사나
Kim ✨Sana✨
Her Korean is very good, but in my opinion she is not enough to be called a native speaker
@@amin5879 I'm curious to know as to why you think that :) I am not learning Korean, but Italian, but even I like watching these videos just for the curiosity (even inspiration). I've always heard Sana is the better speaker of Twice, and presumably other K-pop foreign idols. Other Koreans or non-Koreans who are fans could say the same, but I wouldn't really be one to know all of the nuances of course. At least from a surface level, Sana is a better speaker than the others (Mina, Momo and Tzuyu). All ears.
we damn near probably turned him into a once
Close!
he said
@@GoBillyKorean 치즈
No 머리
I think (G) I-dle foreigners line could actually be really interesting to analyze, I mean they're young, Minnie is Thai, Yuqi is from mainland China and Suhua is Taiwanese, so it's quite diverse in addition, the mistakes and cute particularities should sound really differently from one member to the other ^^
Edit: Thanks for all the likes, I really hope he will take this request in consideration ^^'
i hope he finds more recent clips of shuhua compared to back then.. it would be interesting.. i think minnie is probably the best
I really want to see this! yuqi is known for speaking korean very well, so I'd like to see what mistakes can be found in her korean
@@alesaliz yuqi seems to have the best pronunciation but minnie destroys her in almost every korean word game
Shuhua has a pretty noticeable accent even when singing
@@kimmyseon46 i don't speak korean so i can't tell.. so it be awesome if he analyzed it
I love seeing the non-native Korean celebrities speaking Korean. They make so many cute mistakes or phrases and it makes me appreciate my own special way of speaking Korean as well!
The foreign boys in NCT are pretty fun if you're looking for it!
I agree with the video about the NCT foreign boys, especially Yuta, Mark and Johnny!
cute mistakes? um.
@@emixox8404 Yep! I think there are some pretty cute mistakes that anyone learning another language makes :)
The way that Billy has fallen for Sana's cuteness and Momo's adorable pronunciation 😌 Can't wait for the Mina and Tzuyu analysis video!
"sana says it as 'eondeoni' which is really cute"
i mean that girl is the epitome of cuteness
I really want to see a his reaction to Tzuyu`s korean, and her saying 지겨웠어요(I was bored) instead of 즐거웠어요(I enjoyed) ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
You should definitely do more of these videos. They are very enjoyable and educational. Hopefully it will help all of us to avoid the same mistakes. And you seem to be enjoying doing these videos, so even more reason for you to do more.
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Of course you have to do Mina and Tzuyu now ^^
Btw... There is an "ng" sound in Japanese - in fact there is only "ng" sounds at the end of words that don't end with a vowel because the only consonant that can be used without a vowel is the ん n which is pronounced ng (just like the korean 응)... So 鞄 kaban is pronounced kabang just like the korean 가방 ^^
If anyone is interested in the phonetics behind this, the Japanese final "n" sound is the uvular nasal [ɴ]. This sound sound not exist in Korean and is subsisted by the similar sounding velar nasal [ŋ].
@@brettfafata3017
I'm a linguist so I know ^^ I didn't want to make it sound more complicated than it is but you're absolutely right!
@@Nifuruc I didn't doubt you I just love to use IPA any chance I get lol
@@brettfafata3017
I know that feeling XD
@@Nifuruc That depends on where the “ん” is. Sometimes it depends on the speaker too.
For example, 看板 is pronounced as _kanban_ , _kamban_ , or _kambang_ . You wouldn’t hear any Japanese pronounce it as _kangbang_ though 🙂
Please do Tzuyu! She has a lot of cute pronunciation mistakes too 😆
Yaaaaaaas
@@SoRa-re1yd lol
It was very boring
😂
@Tory Sprout i misquoted but skip to 35:43 😂 ruclips.net/video/srSeym6F2ZQ/видео.html
@@user-uc7ui8lx9f LMAOOOO THAT TZUYU SCENE WAS VERY FUNNY TBH
4:50 billy having a life crisis in the middle of the video hahah
but really though, these videos are fun !! and they're actually rather beneficial, it makes me tune into my pronunciation more :) i'm excited to see you critique some idols that are native english speakers so i can tune into problems that i, as an english speaker, have when i speak korean !!
I really admire momo & sana for learning Korean through speaking, it’s something that is really hard for me so I really depend on learning the writing and reading when I first learn a new language
You should see momo trying to count the syllables in 트둥이 😂
Lmao “EHH?!”
@@awesomeeqme "트 두 응 이 ehhh!?" 😂
XD
I actually love watching Jessi get better at Korean as she does more reality shows(even though she has been living there a long time). Maybe you could show us as English speakers how to fix or get better at speaking Korean like Jessi does. By speaking and making mistakes.
True! But it is worth noting that Jessi has been in Korea for 17 years now, still would be very interesting
Yeah, Jessi, Amber, or Eric Nam would all be good grading subjects.
Yea, Some pure blooded korean who was born or lived abroad and came back to Korea without any fluency really struggles.
Do Tzuyu and Mina too plsss.
Fun fact : today's Sana's birthday, happy birthday to sana!
I remember once seeing a tumblr post a long time ago of a korean explaining the way bts members spoke. like how each member chooses their words, their tone and organized their sentences in a way that was telling about their age, their intellect and just how it matched to their personality in general.
I'd love to see you do a video like this, where you could grab their (or other idols) casual videos and tell us what type of feeling it transmits to fluent/ative speakers. I hope this makes some sense 😅😅
He probably needs to be native or young(to know lingo) at least to do that.. its like when people talk using Twitter terms or not. Simple
Ohh that's so interesting! Kinda wish I could read that post now
Woah I kinda wanna see that post now
anyone have a link? i tried looking and the closest i got was a few decent quora posts
Does anyone have link?
"Cheer up baby! Cheer up baby!" Epic
In Portuguese we have accents to change syllable pronunciation: "오" is ô and "어" is ó
In Dutch is the same letter o but it depends on whether it is followed by 1 or 2 consonants (or is at the end of a word). If you know the basics of a few European languages, you can map all the Korean sounds. For me that's Dutch, French and English/American (for the distinction between 애 and 에)
In Turkish the 으 sound exists, also the Korean and Turkish grammar are very similar
@@insertnamehere4833 Good point. There is no sound in the Western European languages that corresponds with 으. There are a few that come close but the flat line represents the shape of the mouth and it took me a long time to figure out how to do that properly :D
To me the German Ü is similar to 으,
Ä to 애
(And E is 에)
Not 100% but kinda similar
Are you Brazilian or Portuguese? Just curious
honestly billy, your books and videos have helped me so much (especially with pronunciation) that I would argue that you are a perfect Korean speaker!
thank you!
analyzing (g)idle foreign members would be a really interesting video!!! there are three and i think they’re all at slightly different levels
Wait, Sana isn't Korean? I could've sworn she was (don't rly know that much about Twice, sorry) But she seems super confident in her korean!
Sana, Momo and Mina are all Japanese. Tzuyu is Taiwanese. All the other members of Twice are native Koreans. Hope that helps! :)
@@spy6205 ないす
Thanks for this, it's very interesting 👍
That's why Sana's nickname is Kim Sana😄 and even Twice's korean members are envious of her penmanship😂
I wish you reacted to some recent Momo vids too (like you did for Sana's vids) because I think her korean got a bit better over the last 3-4 yrs.
Please do Jun, The8, and Joshua from the group called SEVENTEEN. Jun and The8 are the Chinese members while Joshua is a pure Korean but who lives and born in LA who doesn’t know korean at all before joining the company. They only learned speaking korean while they’re still in their trainee years, and even though it’s been years i still find some cute mistakes and pronunciation from them. I’m not saying it’s bad though i just would like to see how Teacher Billy analyze their pronunciation, grammars, etc. stuffs ^^
YES! She reads Korean perfectly too! There are some "end of the year" shows in which she hosts... search for "Sana hosting gayo" or something, these shows have "Gayo" in the name, and she's reading those things they read when presenting shows and she's perfect at that.
Lmao sana is more confident speaking Korean then me speaking English, like you tell me to explain my essay to my teacher I get my words mixed up and I never say anything I want😤😭
Imagine watching Sana for analyzing her pronunciations but fell in love instead😂
stray kids' australian line please!!!
don't they have korean parents? i'd suspect they grew up with the language anyway. i'm not a big stay so idk but i'm just guessing
@@MrCommentor2 they do but since they're bilingual i'd like to see how billy rates their korean! especially with felix, he started learning it around the age sana + momo did too without knowing the language before!
@@user-gv5xq5lb9t oh okay, i see what you mean. could be interesting then.
@@MrCommentor2 Chan grew up with it. Felix didn’t he had to learn when he moved to korea
no one escapes sana without developing a crush on her. i'm gay but i would drop everything for her lmao
Firstly, love the pics in the background. Secondly, I hope to be so good at Korean one day that people have to nitpick to find errors. Maybe a few decades from now...
Momo saying "my brain isn't working" is a whole ass mood
From my understanding, Japanese does technically have "consonant doubling," at least insofar as how it's expressed in Romaji, but I think their "double" consonants (which are denoted by the use of before the consonant being emphasized in Hiragana and in Katakana) are still "softer" than Korean ones, and it really affects length more than intensity.
Here are my suggestions: Mina and Tzuyu for sure, and I would like you to grade Stray Kids Bang Chan and Felix.
SANAAAAA💖 cutest kween
This is so fun as a kpop fan, but also quite enlightening! Even though I’m nowhere near the girls’ level of Korean, this pronunciation analysis really helped me correct some mistakes I had no idea I was making
Makes sense why a native Japanese speaker would make the mistake 치〜즈. The Japanese equivalent is チーズ (chiizu), which has a long vowel.
As a Japanese speaker with hardly any Korean skills, I find Sana and Momo amazing! A lot of the words are similar but I find Korean pronunciation so difficult!
I’m not sure how I ended up here but I’m glad I did. “No Sana, no life”
nct Japanese/Chinese line next pls 🥺 also, yuta is also Japanese and has a very nice handwriting ^^ how about him and Kun next?
yes i would love to see that ✋
Everyone saying do Tzuyu and Mina too. Yaw clearly didnt watch the video yet💀
Momo & Sana really try their best, i honestly thought that for native Japanese speakers Korean was easier than for Americans or Europeans but it isn’t, im really trying to learn it (Im Belgian) but its kind of hard so i really admire other people who aren’t native Korean speakers when they talk korean and they really motivate me to learn to speak, wirte and read it.
Sana and Momo are a big example for me and i really enjoyed you reacting to their speaking. :)
I love watching these videos! It helps me a lot with my pronunciation and I learn new words. Thank you Billy 🤗
It would be fun to see a video about Jackson (Got7) and Lay (Exo) sometime in the future if/when you have time 😁
Sending love from Serbia ❤
Omg Jacksons would be so hilarious lol nd i frickin love Lay
@@artisticanimedreamerchohui1029 I know, right? 😆
Love them both to pieces
Yall when he said “I wish momo was my korean teacher even though I would learn much” is cause he is fluent already. She probably can’t teach him any words he doesn’t know XD
I meant that I'd probably just be distracted by her cuteness and not learn Korean :P
Learn Korean with GO! Billy Korean That works too😂😂
Some of the most hilarious Twice content is Momo cracking either Nayeon, Jihyo, or Dahyun up with her misunderstanding of Korean.
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Always been so jealous of Sana's Korean skills 😭 Girl is smart and clearly works her ass off. Props.
Every time I speak Korean it’s like my voice and personality changes Idk why 😅
Its so interesting how people’s personalities change based on their language they are speaking, ive seen that happen to a lot of people I wonder why. Maybe its the levee of comfort you have in the language or how you see native speakers speak it or think of the language that affects it! So cool!
You watching too many dramas or vlives and trying to emulate that
@@AmiAki I don’t really watch neither 💀
@@AmiAki nah, that's normal. i don't speak korean, but i speak english and i feel like a whole different person when i speak it.
It's code switching in action.
I feel like a different person when I speak different languages.
the amount of fanboying here is amazing😍 i sense a new once coming along
i really want you to do a vid where your viewers submit their korean videos and you review them
Sana's nickname isn't Kim Sana for no reason 😂 Hi Billy, thank you for doing a video about Sana, she inspired me to learn Korean. I hope I can be half as good as her. 😭❤️
very happy with how respectful you were, especially since you aren’t a native Korean speaker. I would love to see a video like this on Stray Kid’s Felix and NCT’s Lucas
Momo is really cute without knowing it. Sana is really impressive.
the nitpicking is kinda helpful for me learning though hahahaha, don't feel too bad. the not understanding the korean until after sana has read something is so interesting omg
Intro: 0:00
Sana: 1:22
Momo: 11:00
I find Sana impressive but all of them are so cool, I've learned four languages others than mine easily but I find korean pronunciation hard that it makes me give up easily so I learn to understand more but not for talking
Sana is a sweet princess and the world doesn't deserve her.
Momo is a fierce and strong woman and the world doesn't deserve her.
Thanks for this
thank you for the videos Billy! As a student sometimes learning the language seems impossible and that everyone just "got it" but me, but seeing you point out mistakes albeit very small that non native celebrities make and improve makes me feel better with learning, everyone makes mistakes! We're all forever learning and improving 감사합니다! ♥
Billy, you should analyze NCT they have A LOT of foreign members
all the nct vs korean language vids lmao
Sana's sound pretty natural compared to most foreign idols, you can tell she worked really hard on it. Yuqi and Minnie from G-Idle are also pretty good!
thank you so much for the video!!! Sana is by far the best at korean of the four of them, but they all have improved a lot. please do mina and tzuyu next!!!
Hi Billy,
after you do the Tzuyu and Mina video, I think you should do Dita and Léa, the Indonesian and Japanese members of new Rookie Of The Year girl group Secret Number.
They're both interesting cases because Dita is the very first Indonesian kpop girl group idol and Léa even though she's just debuted, is actually has been around the industry even longer than most Twice members. Dita's Korean has been improving by leaps and bounds lately and Léa's Korean has always been commented as really fluent by other people. I think a critique video for both of them would be really interesting.
Thanks 🙏🏼
Lea's Korean is better than Denise Korean (who is Americ-Korea), and she's learning just from drama (high kick).
I'd recommend Renjun from NCT! As a Chinese member of the youngest subunit, he started learning Korean pretty young so he usually hears a lot of compliments that he speaks really well. I wonder what you would think! For most foreign idols that I personally follow, I can usually hear a small difference in accent but Renjun sounds pretty good.
Can you do a series on NCT's foreign members? There are so many of them LOL. Yuta, Kun, Ten, Winwin, Lucas, Xiaojun, Hendery, Renjun, Yangyang, Shotaro and Chenle.
Ahhh!! So excited you’ve continued this series!
If there is one thing I'd critique about Sana's Korean, it's that she tends to speak in a way that makes her words a little slurred-sounding, rather than clear and distinct. But this is the case only some of the time. All in all, she's probably the best Korean speaker out of all foreign idols. Yuqi might be a close second.
It's time to bring this back 😌 JYPE's girl group NiziU just debuted in Korea, and they are all Japanese. It would be fun to see you analyze their Korean (they've been learning for 3 years)
10:56 You should teach us how to write like in a good handwriting in korean!
Thanks Billy! These clips actually help a lot to learn Korean, especially with pronunciation of certain letters. Look forward to more videos!
omg this is the first video i have watched out of this series of you grading idols and their korean and this was so cute and informational at the same time. i love twice lol and this made me smile. can’t wait to see more!!!
Grade G-idle shuhua's korean speaking please. she has a compilation in youtube struggling speaking in korean. she always pronounce yeoreobun as yeobbun.
Sana is not a MC for no reason and Sana have flavors in all of her word she even show her feeling in each word she say
I really love these celebrity grading videos! Thanks for this!
When you speak english, is so clear, that me learning english, can understand all words
I’m a native English speaker and I think the same as you. His English speaking voice and pronunciation are very clear and precise. I think the same can be said for his Korean as well. Good luck🤗
@@gwiyomikim5988 thank youu
thank you for this!! i've always been interested in the korean of foreign idols because although they are very familiar with the language and sound so, there must be some differences! this is so interesting ahhh
in some past clips sana has said she was motivated to learn korean fast because she's quite sociable and didn't like feeling left out/alone when she couldn't understand the other trainees. So it's probably true that she mainly learned through speaking and listening, rather than reading or doing textbook worksheets. She also recommended fans to learn through watching variety shows so i bet she probably learned through that too
You should make one for Thai line in kpop include recent clips for Lisa if you do her speaking has improved so much now 🐱
I’m not surprised Sana speaks Korean really well. You can see how she worked really hard. When TWICE first debuted, she still tried her best to speak in Korean even though her Korean skills wasn’t as good as it is now. Because of how opened she was to making mistakes, her Korean skills really improved a lot.
And also, Sana is a really good active learner. She can easily pick up phrases when she listens to others communicating. E.g When Tzuyu communicates with her parents, she was able to pick up a few mandarin phrases just from hearing Tzuyu speak. And from a native Mandarin speaker perspective, she got her tone right, which is really difficult even for a Japanese or a Korean to get the tone right.
This is really cool! I even ended up catching some new words. It’d be interesting to have, as a special episode, a review of your Korean, Billy, by a native Korean teacher. Thanks for your teachings. Keep it up!
I just want an update: Does Sana still can't pronounce "dinosaur" in Korean?
"You're so cute, you don't need to know these kings of words" lmaooo xD So true tbh.
I hope you review got7 next! Their rapline are all foreigner (Thai, American, Chinese) it would be very interesting to watch
Thanks for making this 👀. Its nice to see someone analyze foreigner speaking or reading in korea. So i can lear the difference, between among people
This was so fun to watch! Please do more rating videos about Twice's members pronunciation in the future too
I love this breakdown of their Korean! When you’re finished with Twice may I suggest Mark, Jackson and Bambam from GOT7? They’re all from different countries (USA, Hong Kong and Thailand). Thank you for the interesting content Billy :)
I vote for this suggestion too!
yesss this would be so good
I see signs that Billy is becoming a Once (Twice fandom name)😂😂😂
Also, for someone that is struggling with hangul, i found this video encouraging. Seeing how Sana became so good and Momo improved over the years is good to a begginer being confident.
Can you do a series on NCT's foreign line? (Yuta, Kun, Ten, Winwin, Lucas, Xiaojun, Hendery, Renjun, Yangyang, Shotaro and Chenle.)
After Tzuyu and Mina, I suggest NCT foreign line
한국어 능력 평가는 이 분이 보통 한국인들보다 잘하실듯 ㅋㅋ
한국어와 영어를 배울 수 있는 좋은 채널이네요.
These videos are so fun!! Itd be also super interesting tomaybe venture into boygroups. Especially NCT/WAYV, since theyre so diverse and sometimes mix multiple languages together. Some of them also havent been long in korea at all!! For example the new member shotaro, or their chinese unit WAYV, that would be so cool to see!
5:05 I was eating when i was watching this and when u broke off character and said "is this what my channel has become?" I almost spat out my food 😂
i just found this channel from the other video but these have actually been really interesting i like these videos!
TWICE's foreign line gives me so much hope as Korean learner. They often explain their learning styles on vlive and encourage new learners to keep going. Each member has a unique way of speaking so it's easy to tell who is who even through vlive chat.
I didn’t know that Charlie Puth is teaching Korean now hahahahaha jk✌🏼😅 I love this video
Thank you Billy for the excellent and informative video. Thanks to your expert sharing, I have now decided to give up studying Korean 😂😂😂
Thank you a lot! You helped me to understand the difference between double consonants and strong consonants!
sana honestly has the best second language speaking skills of anyone i’ve ever seen
Using TWICE as a gateway to learning anything is praiseworthy. Also, I am the language nerd/Twice stan who googled for a video like this. Your trilingual insights are a full on flex tbh. Respect!
This channel makes learning korean such an interesting thing