This guest is very impressive. Hits all the points I've been interested in for a while. It's great he's referencing all these other thinkers to let the listeners take a deeper dive.
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 Bhagavad Gita is a good "summary" of the Upanishads and is where one's exploration should start. Vedas are really hard to get into with no background information (comparable to the Old Testament).
The term 'avatar,' used in a video game to denote the character we play in the game, originated in eastern mystical concepts. The Avatar was the God-man or God-woman, the very incarnation of deity into human form. An example is the Tibetan Buddhist belief that the Dalai Lama is the constant reincarnation of the same Great Soul, come again and again to guide the people through a difficult life. The way the Dalai Lama is chosen is rather unusual. The High Lamas go forth and seek out young children who are said to be exceptional. They take these candidates to the Potala & put them in a room which contains a plethora of items, some of which belonged to the previous Dalai Lama, but most of which did not. The new Dalai Lama is the kid who walks right up to each item that did belong to the former God-King, and identifies them all immediately. Fascinating stuff. I wonder who coined the term Avatar for our in-game characters?
"The High Lamas go forth and seek out young children who are said to be exceptional. " so same way we admit students to ivy league schools, elite students get to be dalai lamas (corporate conmen) and the "dumb" students get to be nobodies (dalai lamas moochers) in life. same old same old.
@15:13 When I was in school for computer programming, I was struggling a bit with the concepts of object oriented programming. It was only after I read Plato and learned about platonic forms that object oriented programming finally clicked and made perfect sense. Entities or abstract objects that could have empty frames or blueprints or classes that would then generate or reflect as instances of the objects within the application.
Dont you hate when your with your mate and he brings up a crazy concept. You listen and engage, question, then you bring up your own crazy concept the other person chuckles at you and treats you like you are mental.
I'm sensing some form of limitation in Brian's accepted perspective. I also did not expect him to answer the way he did. I felt the answers were too rehearsed, the ideas too cemented in his mind for even Lex's thought experiments. Fascinating nonetheless :)
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 yes, but just saying that something which isn't a something yet is beyond all somethings or anythings isn't saying anything other than you can't say anything. That's like trying to say imagine a round square. There are so many frauds jumping on the advaita bandwagon. They'd do well to shut up and stop looking to line their pockets.
@@untonsured Or, it could sound rehearsed when someone has lived it as well, as they are merely reciting the event itself having experienced it. The circle loops on itself
Watching Brian's eyes try to focus while Lex is speaking is funny to me. I guess such is the essence of thought experiments, and Lex is unabashed by the feelings in others his impromptu thoughts might provoke, which is quite refreshing.
I forget in what podcast I have heard it but I agree, "we are shitty Gods" because we have the power to transform, create and shape nature in a way that resembles God like powers but sometimes we use this power in such a harmful manner that only show how shitty we are as Gods.
Just like Alexander says to animals we are gods. ...AND aliens are gods to us... God, Satan, angels, and demons are aliens. Look up really old religious paintings. A lot of them have UFO's and aliens in them. Its like they are trying to warn us. Look up all the oldest civilizations and all the stories and paintings on walls and stuff. Look up Egyptian hieroglyphs and read their stories. Carl Sagan and Elon Musk both said that aliens are probably real and are watching us. Carl Sagan wrote a report once about it and said earth was probably visited many many times and they most likely use the moon or some other place as base not to be seen. The universe is super old. Humans have went from wagons to spaceships in a very short time. Imagine how far another living thing could go in a much longer time frame if they was smarter to begin with. Hollywood movies make you believe they show up for war. That would be stupid they could control us without war. They could wipe us out in seconds if needed. No movie needed. No they need us for something. They control humans now. They have us brainwashed. Very few ordinary people think this way.... I believe when 'God" comes back it will be them gathering up all the most brainwashed and hell will be earth for those that stay. Those that leave will not be treated good either. Slaves or food or both maybe. It will be all nice and fast for them. AND of course we got the gold all ready for them.
I did my masters thesis on the relationship between language and reality and it was very similar to this conversation but only in the realm of psycholinguistics. Basically we are always passing our thoughts through the filter of a language (which all have different limits). So the thought before we consciously produce it is the true reality. We use art and language to try to represent it just like in Plato’s allegory of the cave. It seems certain drugs can remove the filter and allow us access to that true reality (or whatever you want to call it). But that “true reality” seems to be a possible place for our consciousness to step into.
@@devilsadvocate701 Outside of what we, as humans, know as "the natural" world. An origin that is "supernatural" and not bound by the natural laws of our existential plane. As far as an example of nothing, I suppose the closest "thing" would be a void or vacuum.
I have faith in the theory of an entity or force that is the origin of all existence both known and unknown to us. Through spiritual revelation, my viewpoint is that everything that exists has God's "fingerprints" on it. What if what we call quantum particles aren't what we think they are? Sure we can point them out and name them but we don't know why they exist. Why is what gives meaning. I choose to believe we have meaning. What do you believe about God, Devil's Advocate?
When you close your eyes, open your inner eye and search into the nothingness, deeper, when love and joy burts out of you, that is God. God is all the good, Love, Justice, peace, truth, beauty, etc, you spend your life searching and finding God. We know God, he’s calling us eternally
Pouring yourself into creation is awesome and flipping through ecstatic states of mind and awe. The way I see it we have two choices we can regenerate or degenerate. Which life are you going to feed?
@5:33 to let the Kybalion speak for itself, "To take a modern example, let us say that Othello, Iago, Hamlet, Lear, Richard III, existed merely in the mind of Shakespeare, at the time of their conception or creation. And yet, Shakespeare also existed within each of these characters, giving them their vitality, spirit, and action. Whose is the “spirit” of the characters that we know as Micawber, Oliver Twist, Uriah Heep-is it Dickens, or have each of these characters a personal spirit, independent of their creator!"
@11:33 the videogame analogy does work to a degree. The problem is processing speed and information. What I find as a better medium for the simulation theory is the other type of simulation that we know about. Instead of digital it could be a mental simulation. Imagination, dreaming, these are other forms of simulation that exist. In the same way that a videogame character could potentially discover that everything is made out of 0s and 1s, and that even the empty space between objects is made of "digital" matter and is reducible to 1's and 0s and information, we can come to realize that everything in our world is mental and energy. This is one of the 7 principals of hermetic philosophy. This helps explain why the universe itself is logical or intelligible and not just completely random. It follows rules laws and logic.
One night on lsd I was walking down town with my gf. We saw this event at a building where a bunch of fancy dresses people were going into. We could see about 200 people. Then we both saw them disappear and reappear. It blew our minds. I started to suspect maybe life was not real. My next trip I had the tv and radio start talking to me and about me. They explained the simulation and that I am god. It happens every time now that I trip. It blows me away every time with amazement but can be traumatic in a way, when you see your whole life is fake. But i will not be tripping for a while. A few months back, I had a very traumatic trip. The tv was talking to me about the devil and how god used him to give out karma. The guy on the tv told me to follow the arrow head and shot me with an arrow. It went inward and so did I. It was like I restarted the evolution of humanity. I experienced being the most basic life forms and I was convinced I was dead and stuck in that realm. Lol
Wow that last experience I've also experienced that....... From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness...... One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else....... """"" Hey we've been waiting for you....... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us"""" 3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior. I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway. Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonautics out there.......
whoa that is insane. i wish people were more open minded to story's like this. they hear a drug was used and straight away make some lame joke about drugs. open your minds. if you haven't done it, nor have you studied it on a medical level then your opinion is invalid and un-educated. sorry for the rant. just hate close minded people thats not how we evolve.
You’d have a deep relationship with Cat in the Hat as it occupies so much of your mind, but you’d most likely observe that reality is far more complex and you’d see a need for something more.
Have you ever noticed that the combined processes of random mutation and natural selection are the blind implementation of the scientific method? Have you noticed that these processes don't just apply to organisms but apply to all structures and patterns (AKA Universal Darwinism)? What sorts of systems are collections of theories that form hypotheses, test them using interactions with their surroundings, update themselves based on those interactions, and then repeat the processes once updated? Brains? Minds? Isn't it interesting that the basic processes that underlie everything -- the processes that *cannot not* occur -- are the processes involved in coming to know things (i.e., the scientific method)? Is it really surprising that mind is inevitable in the universe? Given a specified length of time and a specified amount of space (even though I have doubts that either is a feature of base reality), what is the probability that a system with a specified amount of complexity (or awareness or control or capacity to persist or capacity to replicate itself or whatever) will evolve? What happens to that probability when the length of time and amount of space are increased? What happens to the probability when the length of time and amount of space are infinite? Using these questions, you should be able to put together a rational argument that the evolution of a "god-like system" is inevitable (depending on how you define "god-like system"). Regarding simulation -- this is a strategy that evolution repeatedly stumbles upon. Think of two bear cubs playing. They are acting out behaviors from their behavioral repertoire in a setting that lacks the dangers from "real life." Despite this, they are able to expand and refine their behavioral repertoires based on this experience. This is a rudimentary form of simulation. Play persists as a tendency/behavior because it benefits the organisms that engage in it by providing them with an increased ability to deal with real-life scenarios while minimizing the cost of obtaining that increased ability. This is also a step in the evolution of a type of foresight that exists outside of an individual's awareness (because the types of play that evolve over time are those most useful in preparing organisms for the challenges they face in real life). The capacity of humans to internally simulate different scenarios and weigh them against each other according to criteria (something we experience as "volition" or "free will") is a more sophisticated version of simulation. School is a collective, outwardly expressed (and very low-quality) form of simulation (that will soon be replaced by something else). So, the "god-like system" that will inevitably evolve (that has already evolved but perhaps continues to refine itself) will likely be an incomprehensible (to us) system of simulations set up to facilitate the goals of the "god-like system." We are simulations within that "god-like system," we have simulations running within us, and we create external simulations for the purposes of learning and recreation. I don't know how much of the foregoing I actually believe, but smart people who understand evolutionary principles should argue about phenomena like these more often -- especially the inevitable evolution of a "god-like system" since this would produce an area for healthy debate and discussion (and the finding of common goals) between atheists and theists (as well as blur the line between atheist and theist).
Hmm, neural links are definitely in the near future. I wonder how our biological systems sustain and maintain human augmentation. Most importantly, how will “human” relationships change when we are all ‘god-like?’
@@electrotech2253 Do you know where I can find an analysis of this subject that will give me a better understanding of these phenomena -- something that really ties all the most important concepts together in a logical way and enables one to clearly imagine where things are heading?
@@supercajun2466 Someone will piece it together sooner or later. Either this all came from one source or it didn't, and we should be able to tell concretely at some point I hope.
Lex asked if people in an enduring video game created by us would ever see us as gods. To me, the obvious answer is "No", because the only conscious people in the game are the conscious players from outside the game. So, they cannot see themselves as transcendental beings (unless they are talking figuratively, about players with "admin" privileges). On the other hand, if we solve the problem of consciousness and learn how to create games with conscious NPCs, then we could not be gods even to them. We would be the creators of their world, but the source of their consciousness would not be from us. It would be from the objective process we had to use to create them. So, the central mystery would still have to bypass us. Likewise, if we assume we live in this world as players from outside (but, say, took a drug to forget we are in a game), we are still bringing our conscious core with us from outside the "game" universe. So, being in a game does not answer anything. The mystery is not illuminated in any consequential way. The way I see it, consciousness is either meaningless or transcendental. Yet, either answer makes us independent from whoever can "rule" our world. The big mystery is not about power. It is about love. To transcend our sense of self is to lose the fear that makes us obsessed with power, so that we can unleash the "divine" source that Brian seems to be talking about.
Great interview! unlearning is the key to find the Creator within ourselves and within this illusory reality that surrounds us which is a projection of our individual and collective consciousness. We are like neurons of the source / Creator. The Creator exists independently from us but also within us and experiences any aspect of the infinite possibilities through us and through all forms of life in this boundless and timeless multi-dimensional multiverse. Everything (visible and not visible) is alive around us, because it all come from the same source. Everything is conscious in its own way, even a planet, a star, your car or the crystal you are wearing. And every thought and experience (physical or non-physical) is recorded into what is called the Akashic records, an intangible energetic field storing the universal consciousness (a cosmic version of Internet... actually what Internet tries to emulate in our 3D perception of things) which is accessible under meditation or hypnosis for instance. There are quantum devices able to tap into past and future timelines (all stored into the Akashic records): they have been developed under secret projects. One of such projects involved scientists such as VonBraun, Fermi and members of the Vatican who could see real images of Alexander the Great, Jesus, Napoleon’s battles. Archons are real, as much as angels, demons and countless races of interdimensional cosmic beings (humanoids and not, benevolent and malevolent). All these beings/entities/fractals of consciousness in any form and shape, material or immaterial, incarnated or dis-incarnated, contribute to the Creator’s experience of the infinite possibilities, as much as we (humans) do. The Creator is constantly evolving through every aspect of his own creation. "We are all one” is not just a motto 😉 Another (counterintuitive) key point to realize is that everything happens simultaneously and linear time is just what we perceive from our unprivileged point of view. So past and future timelines coexist and they can influence each other. Causality law needs to be interpreted in a broader sense than physics has understood so far. You understand this when experimenting with past life regressions under hypnosis (check Dolores Cannon’s or Micheal Newton’s or Brian Weiss’ books for instance... or try yourself to undergo this kinda mind-opening sessions).
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 Definitely yes!! and by "Nature" we really mean every single particle of matter/energy that exists and has ever existed. Even whatever we create artificially is created by manipulating pre-existing forms of matter and energy, all originating from the same ultimate source. We are very far from proving scientifically that a rock or crystal has some form of consciousness (even though through esoteric practices we can actually connect to them, feel their energies, tap into their "memories") but experiments are already showing that water and plants, for instance, react to people's emotions, that are sensible to sounds, etc. Both sounds and emotions are actually forms of vibrations and every fractal of consciousness works like antennas, emitting and receiving vibrations at specific frequencies. As Tesla said "If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration". The string theory is definitely the closest modern physics has come to translate this sentence into a mathematical model so far. But it misses any transcendental concept which is needed to explain consciousness and life, in a multi-dimensional sense. Mathematics alone cannot get that far ;)
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC You sound like a troll. No face, no videos, no subscribers. Nothing interesting to say or add to the discussion, apparently. Just a generic, uninspired and bigot attack... Have fun in life instead of thinking about Satan and being trapped in fear. As far as proof in concerned, nothing of what was discussed in the video is "proven". On the contrary, I can provide some evidence of what I discussed to people who meditate with me or my videos. 1000+ subscribers on my channel did try it. The Institute of Noetic Sciences even tested one of my meditation videos with EEG on 11 volunteers, showing something interesting in their brain activity affecting all wave ranges from delta to gamma. All of the volunteers felt energies or vibrations and a few of them had more esoteric experiences, including two having contacts with benevolent interdimensional beings (spirits and angels, not demons...). I will publish a video with the final results of this preliminary study on my channel, soon. Cheers
This is one of the greatest RUclips comments I’ve ever come across. I’ve been contemplating on all the points you’ve mentioned and I believe you are not only correct about them but more importantly correct that all interplay with purpose and with a direct link to the creator - life, consciousness, time, and atomic principles. I believe psychedelia is a way to tap into those realms more deeply as they play on the subconscious. Would love to share ideas on this. I’ve been looking for others who share in this belief while maintaining a God-centered focus.
I don't think language can contain the essence of God. The closest I've ever seen is that God is the all and the infinite, and being such God is pure love since God contains all action and all conscious thought, and therefore accepts all.
At 2:57 Brian shouldn't have told you it made no sense, when Joseph Campbell also expressed this same idea when he told the story of the Upanishads, which ends with: "Then he realized, I indeed, I am this creation, for I have poured it forth from myself. In that way he became this creation. Verily, he who knows this becomes in this creation a creator."
There was a lot of discussion regarding the “forget your self for just an instant and you will know Nothing”. It’s pure speculation even though it’s been talked about quite a bit. Nobody has done it or met someone who has. Would you like to?
I think what Lex was trying to say at the start was that we create God because we look for him or wonder about him. That if we didn't would god still be. Kind of a tree falling in the forest type question.
Looking for god all comes from the fact that we all crave a grand purpose, and that we would like having a cosmic big brother in the sky looking out for us. We're trying to humanise nature ans the universe. It's kinda similar to how we would find familiar patterns and shapes in clouds - patterns and shapes that would mean absolutely nothing to any other animal on the planet. If Dolphins ruled the world, god would have a blowhole
I would really appreciate it if you did a live or podcast about deep learning Artificial Intelligence putting thoughts into our brains without necessarily being invasive. It already exists. You just need to take us to it!
I don't know why he says "without being heretical". Mysticism is a type of heresy within Christianism in particular. What he's describing as "God" falls under the umbrella of Panentheism. And Christianism is not panentheistic, is just theistic. Btw. Why nobody cites Anthony De Mello? The guy was awesome.
@Rich Adams nice. Although I personally think that the PolCom. is very outdated. I have it as profile pic because is a useful point of reference for most people. My views go from hippie-libertarian to Pinochet-esque. 😅😅
It’s so sad you can’t talk about God in this sense . With most modern Christian they will think that you’re a demon for questioning their depiction of God .
@2:59 there is a difference between creating the concept or category or label of God, or even what we believe to be its attributes, but that is not the same thing as creating the fact of the matter which our conceptual (conceptual plane of existence which our minds have access to) symbol is a reference to. We can study objective things and make that part of our conceptual map a higher resolution of detail, but with our concept of God the more literal you try to make it the more it is going to slip through your grasp.
@@devilsadvocate701 Great question!! I think, for me, it's the human experience or sensation stemming from the merging/interfacing of matter (elements) with energy. It feels (to me) like a quiet constant entity. How would you define it?
@@devilsadvocate701 It could be a combination of some known energies (electromagnetic, dark energy if it exists, heck, even gravitational waves :) Or energies we haven't identified yet in 2021.
If and when I grow up, I hope to be able to regurgitate other people's ideas with Brian's conviction. I'll never have to bother with original thought again! 😁 Seriously though, great interview, Lex. Some lovely insights. PS: I'm all about that buzz cut! 😉
In my mind consciousness is gods greatest gift for god said he made us in gods image. So we are creators and if we take control, total control we can manifest anything in our lives.
Jesus Christ, that's who. I also agree with Lex and disagree with Brian when he says "it makes no sense". Lex hit it right on the nail. Human kind has tried to understand the "mystery of God", but our thoughts about God turned into idols of our own mind, never fully grasping God himself, rather creating God's of our desires and primitive understandings. That is what makes Jesus Christ special, the word of God incarnated and told mankind the mysteries of God and revealed that he was God in the flesh and how we can be saved and reunited with God. No philosophy, no ideas of what God might be, just a straightforward divine revelation of the nature of God, being a triune/3 fold eternal deity. I'm not going to get into all the specifics about the bible or argue with anyone, just want to point that when we ask who is God? Should we ignore the fact that the most worshipped man on the planet with the most religious adherents in the world, 2 billion, are claiming that man was God and resurrected according to the Apostles? Surely if who is God is the question, one should start with the Bible.
Interesting that you talk about creating gods and then mention worshipping Jesus. Why do so many Christians want to worship the physicality of God? God the father is the giver of life.
So does the Oculus headset that "deletes" the user when they are "deleted" in the game acquire the consciousness of the user? Does the consciousness remain in the game for eternity?
At 3:43 lex- if that makes any sense? brian- it makes absolutely no sense. I think Brian didn't understand the context of your question Lex, based on his symtactical interpretation of the phrasing of the question. If I may, your cyclical question is already an existing philosophy, I'm surprised Brian didn't pickup on it. 'Do we create the concept of God in our attempt to understand or even identify the mystery?' Yes, that question is indeed a sensible question, Mr. Fridman. And I think you ought rephrase it and ask perhaps once more when you get the chance. Also, he's a bit pretentious in his readiness to answer all your questions, "starting with the easy stuff" in response to "Who is God", I mean come on...
Lex, when you discuss people spending more time playing video games you remind me about the people in the movies Disney Pixars WALL-E (2008) or Ready Player One (2018). I'm sure there is more examples in media. I fear we are headed that way as a society, where people are just self isolated automatons whose sole purpose is to consume things, only engaging with others in a virtual world. People will love it too, make them feel like a god, creating any kind of world they choose. I'll still be gone fishing.
Pretty shallow observation. You use base media created by mega corporations to criticize… other media and people’s use of it. I’m sure the irony isn’t lost on me
What does he mean by "more real than real"? That's thrown around a lot in these types of conversations yet no one really defines that. He also kind of side stepped some of Lex's questions or points.
@13:51 Arcons in some traditions were fallen angels. The word itself means Prince in Greek I believe. The videogame Destiny uses Arcon as a rank of the "fallen" as in fallen angel leaders or elite or princes.
I’ve thought the same way about the video games and ai virtual worlds. With Us essentially being the gods. The universe is ever repeating patterns we are recreating the same patterns of creation but instead of creating organically with cells atoms dna like the gods that created us Were re creating using the computers and these and synthetic materials that we’ve created to best replicate the organic materials and systems around us. Even computing is an organic system of the universe that we recreated
When we grow up we might come to the understanding that most what what is written when it comes to the gods is fictional. Divine is a loaded topic on its own. It seems the possibility of creator consciousness which we are a part of is closer to the truth. Material and immaterial consciousness. Think about it. It’s a web of connection.
This is why asking intellectuals about what God is, is a waste of time. You might as well ask a lawyer, or an accountant. It's like asking a string theorist what love is, or asking Deep Blue to analyze Smells Like Teen Spirit. Ask somebody with direct experience. Ask Ramana Maharshi, or Nisargadatta Maharaj, or at least a 15 year old who just took acid for the first time.
Lol... for real😆? “ we start with an easy one...’ All my childhood in USSR, my youth in postsoviet era, where I was constantly brainwashed. I went, & still am going through a personal journey in search of higher power. Let me tell you it’s not an easy one.
I believe we all get divinity at the end, regardless of religion, acts of wrongdoing, incorrect beliefs. What all knowing All Loving Higher power would condemn an imperfect being Knowing that he/she is flawed and Will Commit wrong-doings throughout their lives on varying levels despite knowing they shouldn’t
Yoy can start researcing God on each major religions in the world. I personally now researching Islam theology and I found something interesting in the word of TAUHEED (or TAUHID), it's the word in Islam theology means One. But not only that One meaning, as I dig more, the more interesting it gets....
If instead of humans, cockroaches developed self awareness and intelligence and ultimately went on to rule the world, "god" would be a big roach in the sky in a white robe and flipflops
What a question! One thing is for sure, we didn't explode into existence from some powerful nuclear bomb floating in a dark nothingness. What created the space the universe fits in? What or who created the physics, the matter and energy? DNA? Consciousness? This all didn't just happen by a random chance from a single explosion billions of years ago. We can only see or explore a tiny fraction of outer space. We have no clue and can't perceive what "dark" energy or matter is, or even see or harness gravity or other yet to be discovered forces. It's so selfish and small brained of humans to think we're the center of intelligence and knowledge. There's sooo much more to be discovered yet.
Someone should develop a Google Earth based 1:1 open world scientific realism focused Civ + Sims + Spore etc hybrid metaphysics simulating deity sandbox game...
We're just the product of physics and our evolution necessitated intelligence to survive the various episodes of catasrophism in the changing climates of Africa. This had the consequence of us needing protein for brain development which created a feedback loop for an even bigger brain because tools were invented for hunting/warfare. We became very adapted to finding patterns and here we are today. In other words, we are the universe experiencing itself via biology by random processes that led to this moment.
This guest is very impressive. Hits all the points I've been interested in for a while. It's great he's referencing all these other thinkers to let the listeners take a deeper dive.
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 God doesn't exist.
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 Bhagavad Gita is a good "summary" of the Upanishads and is where one's exploration should start. Vedas are really hard to get into with no background information (comparable to the Old Testament).
🤣 I was thinking it, and he was saying it🤣 right😂
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 Beautiful comment, clear, and super integrated. Well done!
very well put, couldn't agree more.
The term 'avatar,' used in a video game to denote the character we play in the game, originated in eastern mystical concepts. The Avatar was the God-man or God-woman, the very incarnation of deity into human form. An example is the Tibetan Buddhist belief that the Dalai Lama is the constant reincarnation of the same Great Soul, come again and again to guide the people through a difficult life. The way the Dalai Lama is chosen is rather unusual. The High Lamas go forth and seek out young children who are said to be exceptional. They take these candidates to the Potala & put them in a room which contains a plethora of items, some of which belonged to the previous Dalai Lama, but most of which did not.
The new Dalai Lama is the kid who walks right up to each item that did belong to the former God-King, and identifies them all immediately.
Fascinating stuff. I wonder who coined the term Avatar for our in-game characters?
"The High Lamas go forth and seek out young children who are said to be exceptional. " so same way we admit students to ivy league schools, elite students get to be dalai lamas (corporate conmen) and the "dumb" students get to be nobodies (dalai lamas moochers) in life. same old same old.
@15:13 When I was in school for computer programming, I was struggling a bit with the concepts of object oriented programming. It was only after I read Plato and learned about platonic forms that object oriented programming finally clicked and made perfect sense. Entities or abstract objects that could have empty frames or blueprints or classes that would then generate or reflect as instances of the objects within the application.
@Sudden Death Rune exactly, I think that would actually help oop click for a lot of people. I'm surprised more people don't catch the similarities.
@@h4zehwow, reading Plato before starting programming! This is great! What should one focus on from Plato?
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Dont you hate when your with your mate and he brings up a crazy concept. You listen and engage, question, then you bring up your own crazy concept the other person chuckles at you and treats you like you are mental.
Yes I didn't like the way the guest shuts him off in a way
also freedom to be our self and laugh good laughs :)
I think the question could have been. Did God create us in his image or have we created God in our image?
Truly great choice for an interviewee. Thank you.
While it may be interesting to ask "who is god" I think it might be even more interesting to ask "how is god" or "why is god"
I'm sensing some form of limitation in Brian's accepted perspective. I also did not expect him to answer the way he did. I felt the answers were too rehearsed, the ideas too cemented in his mind for even Lex's thought experiments. Fascinating nonetheless :)
Well said!
@Rachel Duggan Well said, Rachel... 😉
When it's rehearsed it means they haven't lived it.
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 yes, but just saying that something which isn't a something yet is beyond all somethings or anythings isn't saying anything other than you can't say anything. That's like trying to say imagine a round square. There are so many frauds jumping on the advaita bandwagon. They'd do well to shut up and stop looking to line their pockets.
@@untonsured Or, it could sound rehearsed when someone has lived it as well, as they are merely reciting the event itself having experienced it. The circle loops on itself
Watching Brian's eyes try to focus while Lex is speaking is funny to me. I guess such is the essence of thought experiments, and Lex is unabashed by the feelings in others his impromptu thoughts might provoke, which is quite refreshing.
I forget in what podcast I have heard it but I agree, "we are shitty Gods" because we have the power to transform, create and shape nature in a way that resembles God like powers but sometimes we use this power in such a harmful manner that only show how shitty we are as Gods.
Just like Alexander says to animals we are gods. ...AND aliens are gods to us... God, Satan, angels, and demons are aliens. Look up really old religious paintings. A lot of them have UFO's and aliens in them. Its like they are trying to warn us. Look up all the oldest civilizations and all the stories and paintings on walls and stuff. Look up Egyptian hieroglyphs and read their stories. Carl Sagan and Elon Musk both said that aliens are probably real and are watching us. Carl Sagan wrote a report once about it and said earth was probably visited many many times and they most likely use the moon or some other place as base not to be seen. The universe is super old. Humans have went from wagons to spaceships in a very short time. Imagine how far another living thing could go in a much longer time frame if they was smarter to begin with. Hollywood movies make you believe they show up for war. That would be stupid they could control us without war. They could wipe us out in seconds if needed. No movie needed. No they need us for something. They control humans now. They have us brainwashed. Very few ordinary people think this way.... I believe when 'God" comes back it will be them gathering up all the most brainwashed and hell will be earth for those that stay. Those that leave will not be treated good either. Slaves or food or both maybe. It will be all nice and fast for them. AND of course we got the gold all ready for them.
@@ibrahimyassin52 Hahaha the quran is trash.
Hence, why we are all God’s children. We are here to learn how to be Gods
God is a narcissist. He is willing to have us suffer and call that a good thing, if we suffer for God. It gives him pleasure to have us suffer.
@@ibrahimyassin52 Technically, we are gods.
I did my masters thesis on the relationship between language and reality and it was very similar to this conversation but only in the realm of psycholinguistics.
Basically we are always passing our thoughts through the filter of a language (which all have different limits). So the thought before we consciously produce it is the true reality. We use art and language to try to represent it just like in Plato’s allegory of the cave. It seems certain drugs can remove the filter and allow us access to that true reality (or whatever you want to call it). But that “true reality” seems to be a possible place for our consciousness to step into.
Actually Lex makes some great points
Lex, thanks for all the provocative stuff you offer.
God made something from nothing. When we make ourselves nothing, we are closest to Him.
@@devilsadvocate701 What would this evidence need to look or act like in order to confirm it is evidence of God?
@@devilsadvocate701 Haha. He would, but would you?
@@devilsadvocate701 Nothing is nothing. Zero. Nada. Void of any thing. My belief is that God's origin exists outside of time and space as we know it.
@@devilsadvocate701 Outside of what we, as humans, know as "the natural" world. An origin that is "supernatural" and not bound by the natural laws of our existential plane. As far as an example of nothing, I suppose the closest "thing" would be a void or vacuum.
I have faith in the theory of an entity or force that is the origin of all existence both known and unknown to us. Through spiritual revelation, my viewpoint is that everything that exists has God's "fingerprints" on it. What if what we call quantum particles aren't what we think they are? Sure we can point them out and name them but we don't know why they exist. Why is what gives meaning. I choose to believe we have meaning. What do you believe about God, Devil's Advocate?
When you close your eyes, open your inner eye and search into the nothingness, deeper, when love and joy burts out of you, that is God. God is all the good, Love, Justice, peace, truth, beauty, etc, you spend your life searching and finding God. We know God, he’s calling us eternally
Wow so many words to say nothing…. You’re just asserting something with no proof
Why do we care what ancient people thought about religion. Do we care their thoughts on medicine and science ?
Pouring yourself into creation is awesome and flipping through ecstatic states of mind and awe. The way I see it we have two choices we can regenerate or degenerate. Which life are you going to feed?
Humans can make something from nothing so we can create.
Lex have you ever read the quest for gnosis by Gabriel d Roberts each chapter is an interview what gnosis is to each person
We can choose to add order to the universe or sit back and allow entropy to take hold.
@5:33 to let the Kybalion speak for itself, "To take a modern example, let us say that Othello, Iago,
Hamlet, Lear, Richard III, existed merely in the mind of
Shakespeare, at the time of their conception or creation. And
yet, Shakespeare also existed within each of these characters,
giving them their vitality, spirit, and action. Whose is the “spirit”
of the characters that we know as Micawber, Oliver Twist, Uriah
Heep-is it Dickens, or have each of these characters a personal
spirit, independent of their creator!"
@11:33 the videogame analogy does work to a degree. The problem is processing speed and information. What I find as a better medium for the simulation theory is the other type of simulation that we know about. Instead of digital it could be a mental simulation. Imagination, dreaming, these are other forms of simulation that exist.
In the same way that a videogame character could potentially discover that everything is made out of 0s and 1s, and that even the empty space between objects is made of "digital" matter and is reducible to 1's and 0s and information, we can come to realize that everything in our world is mental and energy. This is one of the 7 principals of hermetic philosophy. This helps explain why the universe itself is logical or intelligible and not just completely random. It follows rules laws and logic.
One night on lsd I was walking down town with my gf. We saw this event at a building where a bunch of fancy dresses people were going into. We could see about 200 people. Then we both saw them disappear and reappear. It blew our minds. I started to suspect maybe life was not real. My next trip I had the tv and radio start talking to me and about me. They explained the simulation and that I am god. It happens every time now that I trip. It blows me away every time with amazement but can be traumatic in a way, when you see your whole life is fake. But i will not be tripping for a while. A few months back, I had a very traumatic trip. The tv was talking to me about the devil and how god used him to give out karma. The guy on the tv told me to follow the arrow head and shot me with an arrow. It went inward and so did I. It was like I restarted the evolution of humanity. I experienced being the most basic life forms and I was convinced I was dead and stuck in that realm. Lol
Wow that last experience I've also experienced that.......
From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness......
One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else.......
""""" Hey we've been waiting for you....... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""
3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.
I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway.
Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonautics out there.......
This was awesome to read. You are like me because when I trip the radio and shit speaks to me
@@Kamopanda Where are you guys buying your drugs? ;-)
dont do drugs kids
whoa that is insane. i wish people were more open minded to story's like this. they hear a drug was used and straight away make some lame joke about drugs. open your minds.
if you haven't done it, nor have you studied it on a medical level then your opinion is invalid and un-educated. sorry for the rant. just hate close minded people thats not how we evolve.
God is the essence of being itself…an infinite mind, beyond the physical universe…with a unique sense of humor
”with a unique sense of humor” indeed
3:40 made perfect sense. If you strip away language, what impressions are left?
If you were raised all alone on an island, and all you were taught was Dr Seuss, you'd eventually have a spiritual experience with Cat in the Hat...
You’d have a deep relationship with Cat in the Hat as it occupies so much of your mind, but you’d most likely observe that reality is far more complex and you’d see a need for something more.
gods real name is tony. he lives about 5 doors down from my mum. he once helped her change a flat tyre on her car. nice bloke!
No sure if you were trying to be funny, but you have a point. God is in us so God is in Tony, if he has the Holy Spirit. Tony is not God.
@@elygarcia2855 wait Til Tony here's about this..
This interview wasn't my favorite. The interviewee was condescending.
Psychedelic states can certainly approach pure awareness.
Have you ever noticed that the combined processes of random mutation and natural selection are the blind implementation of the scientific method? Have you noticed that these processes don't just apply to organisms but apply to all structures and patterns (AKA Universal Darwinism)? What sorts of systems are collections of theories that form hypotheses, test them using interactions with their surroundings, update themselves based on those interactions, and then repeat the processes once updated? Brains? Minds? Isn't it interesting that the basic processes that underlie everything -- the processes that *cannot not* occur -- are the processes involved in coming to know things (i.e., the scientific method)? Is it really surprising that mind is inevitable in the universe? Given a specified length of time and a specified amount of space (even though I have doubts that either is a feature of base reality), what is the probability that a system with a specified amount of complexity (or awareness or control or capacity to persist or capacity to replicate itself or whatever) will evolve? What happens to that probability when the length of time and amount of space are increased? What happens to the probability when the length of time and amount of space are infinite? Using these questions, you should be able to put together a rational argument that the evolution of a "god-like system" is inevitable (depending on how you define "god-like system").
Regarding simulation -- this is a strategy that evolution repeatedly stumbles upon. Think of two bear cubs playing. They are acting out behaviors from their behavioral repertoire in a setting that lacks the dangers from "real life." Despite this, they are able to expand and refine their behavioral repertoires based on this experience. This is a rudimentary form of simulation. Play persists as a tendency/behavior because it benefits the organisms that engage in it by providing them with an increased ability to deal with real-life scenarios while minimizing the cost of obtaining that increased ability. This is also a step in the evolution of a type of foresight that exists outside of an individual's awareness (because the types of play that evolve over time are those most useful in preparing organisms for the challenges they face in real life). The capacity of humans to internally simulate different scenarios and weigh them against each other according to criteria (something we experience as "volition" or "free will") is a more sophisticated version of simulation. School is a collective, outwardly expressed (and very low-quality) form of simulation (that will soon be replaced by something else). So, the "god-like system" that will inevitably evolve (that has already evolved but perhaps continues to refine itself) will likely be an incomprehensible (to us) system of simulations set up to facilitate the goals of the "god-like system." We are simulations within that "god-like system," we have simulations running within us, and we create external simulations for the purposes of learning and recreation.
I don't know how much of the foregoing I actually believe, but smart people who understand evolutionary principles should argue about phenomena like these more often -- especially the inevitable evolution of a "god-like system" since this would produce an area for healthy debate and discussion (and the finding of common goals) between atheists and theists (as well as blur the line between atheist and theist).
Hmm, neural links are definitely in the near future. I wonder how our biological systems sustain and maintain human augmentation. Most importantly, how will “human” relationships change when we are all ‘god-like?’
This is pretty close to truth.
@@electrotech2253 Do you know where I can find an analysis of this subject that will give me a better understanding of these phenomena -- something that really ties all the most important concepts together in a logical way and enables one to clearly imagine where things are heading?
@@supercajun2466 Someone will piece it together sooner or later. Either this all came from one source or it didn't, and we should be able to tell concretely at some point I hope.
It did make sense, Lex! Let the record reflect I'm higher than Shaqs kneecaps rn 👽
Yeeesss
awh Lex, you are such a sweetheart. You do, always, make sense.
watch an old 1999 movie: eXistenz
Lex asked if people in an enduring video game created by us would ever see us as gods. To me, the obvious answer is "No", because the only conscious people in the game are the conscious players from outside the game. So, they cannot see themselves as transcendental beings (unless they are talking figuratively, about players with "admin" privileges). On the other hand, if we solve the problem of consciousness and learn how to create games with conscious NPCs, then we could not be gods even to them. We would be the creators of their world, but the source of their consciousness would not be from us. It would be from the objective process we had to use to create them. So, the central mystery would still have to bypass us.
Likewise, if we assume we live in this world as players from outside (but, say, took a drug to forget we are in a game), we are still bringing our conscious core with us from outside the "game" universe. So, being in a game does not answer anything. The mystery is not illuminated in any consequential way.
The way I see it, consciousness is either meaningless or transcendental. Yet, either answer makes us independent from whoever can "rule" our world.
The big mystery is not about power. It is about love. To transcend our sense of self is to lose the fear that makes us obsessed with power, so that we can unleash the "divine" source that Brian seems to be talking about.
The more conscious I become of God the more I realize that God is consciousness...
experience ego death= become god
Great interview! unlearning is the key to find the Creator within ourselves and within this illusory reality that surrounds us which is a projection of our individual and collective consciousness. We are like neurons of the source / Creator. The Creator exists independently from us but also within us and experiences any aspect of the infinite possibilities through us and through all forms of life in this boundless and timeless multi-dimensional multiverse. Everything (visible and not visible) is alive around us, because it all come from the same source. Everything is conscious in its own way, even a planet, a star, your car or the crystal you are wearing. And every thought and experience (physical or non-physical) is recorded into what is called the Akashic records, an intangible energetic field storing the universal consciousness (a cosmic version of Internet... actually what Internet tries to emulate in our 3D perception of things) which is accessible under meditation or hypnosis for instance. There are quantum devices able to tap into past and future timelines (all stored into the Akashic records): they have been developed under secret projects. One of such projects involved scientists such as VonBraun, Fermi and members of the Vatican who could see real images of Alexander the Great, Jesus, Napoleon’s battles. Archons are real, as much as angels, demons and countless races of interdimensional cosmic beings (humanoids and not, benevolent and malevolent). All these beings/entities/fractals of consciousness in any form and shape, material or immaterial, incarnated or dis-incarnated, contribute to the Creator’s experience of the infinite possibilities, as much as we (humans) do. The Creator is constantly evolving through every aspect of his own creation. "We are all one” is not just a motto 😉 Another (counterintuitive) key point to realize is that everything happens simultaneously and linear time is just what we perceive from our unprivileged point of view. So past and future timelines coexist and they can influence each other. Causality law needs to be interpreted in a broader sense than physics has understood so far. You understand this when experimenting with past life regressions under hypnosis (check Dolores Cannon’s or Micheal Newton’s or Brian Weiss’ books for instance... or try yourself to undergo this kinda mind-opening sessions).
@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 Definitely yes!! and by "Nature" we really mean every single particle of matter/energy that exists and has ever existed. Even whatever we create artificially is created by manipulating pre-existing forms of matter and energy, all originating from the same ultimate source. We are very far from proving scientifically that a rock or crystal has some form of consciousness (even though through esoteric practices we can actually connect to them, feel their energies, tap into their "memories") but experiments are already showing that water and plants, for instance, react to people's emotions, that are sensible to sounds, etc. Both sounds and emotions are actually forms of vibrations and every fractal of consciousness works like antennas, emitting and receiving vibrations at specific frequencies. As Tesla said "If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration". The string theory is definitely the closest modern physics has come to translate this sentence into a mathematical model so far. But it misses any transcendental concept which is needed to explain consciousness and life, in a multi-dimensional sense. Mathematics alone cannot get that far ;)
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC You sound like a troll. No face, no videos, no subscribers. Nothing interesting to say or add to the discussion, apparently. Just a generic, uninspired and bigot attack... Have fun in life instead of thinking about Satan and being trapped in fear. As far as proof in concerned, nothing of what was discussed in the video is "proven". On the contrary, I can provide some evidence of what I discussed to people who meditate with me or my videos. 1000+ subscribers on my channel did try it. The Institute of Noetic Sciences even tested one of my meditation videos with EEG on 11 volunteers, showing something interesting in their brain activity affecting all wave ranges from delta to gamma. All of the volunteers felt energies or vibrations and a few of them had more esoteric experiences, including two having contacts with benevolent interdimensional beings (spirits and angels, not demons...). I will publish a video with the final results of this preliminary study on my channel, soon. Cheers
This is one of the greatest RUclips comments I’ve ever come across. I’ve been contemplating on all the points you’ve mentioned and I believe you are not only correct about them but more importantly correct that all interplay with purpose and with a direct link to the creator - life, consciousness, time, and atomic principles. I believe psychedelia is a way to tap into those realms more deeply as they play on the subconscious. Would love to share ideas on this. I’ve been looking for others who share in this belief while maintaining a God-centered focus.
I don't think language can contain the essence of God. The closest I've ever seen is that God is the all and the infinite, and being such God is pure love since God contains all action and all conscious thought, and therefore accepts all.
Bla bla
At 2:57 Brian shouldn't have told you it made no sense, when Joseph Campbell also expressed this same idea when he told the story of the Upanishads, which ends with: "Then he realized, I indeed, I am this creation, for I have poured it forth from myself. In that way he became this creation. Verily, he who knows this becomes in this creation a creator."
Brian was joking.
Currently visualizing to manifest a conversation with Lex and Robert Lanza about biocentrism. 🙏🙏🙏
There was a lot of discussion regarding the “forget your self for just an instant and you will know Nothing”. It’s pure speculation even though it’s been talked about quite a bit. Nobody has done it or met someone who has. Would you like to?
I took some shrooms and saw a white light felt so grateful, blessed at peace the light went into my heart after I told god I love him so much
God is being really drunk and realizing you still have left over sweet and sour chicken in the fridge.
I think what Lex was trying to say at the start was that we create God because we look for him or wonder about him. That if we didn't would god still be. Kind of a tree falling in the forest type question.
Looking for god all comes from the fact that we all crave a grand purpose, and that we would like having a cosmic big brother in the sky looking out for us.
We're trying to humanise nature ans the universe. It's kinda similar to how we would find familiar patterns and shapes in clouds - patterns and shapes that would mean absolutely nothing to any other animal on the planet.
If Dolphins ruled the world, god would have a blowhole
@@joseph7105 I don’t think he’s the creator of the universe,he ain’t no God he’s righteous person and a human being like you and I..
I would really appreciate it if you did a live or podcast about deep learning Artificial Intelligence putting thoughts into our brains without necessarily being invasive. It already exists. You just need to take us to it!
I don't know why he says "without being heretical". Mysticism is a type of heresy within Christianism in particular.
What he's describing as "God" falls under the umbrella of Panentheism. And Christianism is not panentheistic, is just theistic.
Btw. Why nobody cites Anthony De Mello? The guy was awesome.
Have you read ‘ The Denial Of Death’ by Ernest Becker?
@Rich Adams nice.
Although I personally think that the PolCom. is very outdated. I have it as profile pic because is a useful point of reference for most people.
My views go from hippie-libertarian to Pinochet-esque. 😅😅
Lex, let's talk
It’s so sad you can’t talk about God in this sense . With most modern Christian they will think that you’re a demon for questioning their depiction of God .
Wow, better said than I ever could!
God is the dreamer and his name is Aum.
At the end of aum, there is a silence, the resting place of god.
God is in us, the author of our dreams.
The mind of God is the sum of all subjective experiences
I think any attempt to define God is insufficient due to the limitations of language. That being said, your statement certainly resonates with me.
God dwells in you, as you, for you....................
@2:59 there is a difference between creating the concept or category or label of God, or even what we believe to be its attributes, but that is not the same thing as creating the fact of the matter which our conceptual (conceptual plane of existence which our minds have access to) symbol is a reference to. We can study objective things and make that part of our conceptual map a higher resolution of detail, but with our concept of God the more literal you try to make it the more it is going to slip through your grasp.
"if they have jobs at all" too funny. Ya I don't see many want ads for philosophers.
God seems to be the persona of the Universe. The soul of the Universe.
@@devilsadvocate701 Great question!! I think, for me, it's the human experience or sensation stemming from the merging/interfacing of matter (elements) with energy. It feels (to me) like a quiet constant entity. How would you define it?
@@devilsadvocate701 It could be a combination of some known energies (electromagnetic, dark energy if it exists, heck, even gravitational waves :) Or energies we haven't identified yet in 2021.
@@devilsadvocate701 No, not at all.
If and when I grow up, I hope to be able to regurgitate other people's ideas with Brian's conviction. I'll never have to bother with original thought again! 😁 Seriously though, great interview, Lex. Some lovely insights.
PS: I'm all about that buzz cut! 😉
In my mind consciousness is gods greatest gift for god said he made us in gods image. So we are creators and if we take control, total control we can manifest anything in our lives.
Beautifully said !
My god the point went completely over your head.
@@saintstorm7 tell me exactly how it went over my head?
Consciousness give place for loops (thinking about thinking is a lool) and consciousness itself is a loop.
Some conversations are just to interesting to miss.
Jesus Christ, that's who.
I also agree with Lex and disagree with Brian when he says "it makes no sense". Lex hit it right on the nail. Human kind has tried to understand the "mystery of God", but our thoughts about God turned into idols of our own mind, never fully grasping God himself, rather creating God's of our desires and primitive understandings. That is what makes Jesus Christ special, the word of God incarnated and told mankind the mysteries of God and revealed that he was God in the flesh and how we can be saved and reunited with God. No philosophy, no ideas of what God might be, just a straightforward divine revelation of the nature of God, being a triune/3 fold eternal deity. I'm not going to get into all the specifics about the bible or argue with anyone, just want to point that when we ask who is God? Should we ignore the fact that the most worshipped man on the planet with the most religious adherents in the world, 2 billion, are claiming that man was God and resurrected according to the Apostles? Surely if who is God is the question, one should start with the Bible.
Why not start with the Koran?
Interesting that you talk about creating gods and then mention worshipping Jesus. Why do so many Christians want to worship the physicality of God? God the father is the giver of life.
So does the Oculus headset that "deletes" the user when they are "deleted" in the game acquire the consciousness of the user? Does the consciousness remain in the game for eternity?
At 3:43
lex- if that makes any sense?
brian- it makes absolutely no sense.
I think Brian didn't understand the context of your question Lex, based on his symtactical interpretation of the phrasing of the question. If I may, your cyclical question is already an existing philosophy, I'm surprised Brian didn't pickup on it. 'Do we create the concept of God in our attempt to understand or even identify the mystery?' Yes, that question is indeed a sensible question, Mr. Fridman. And I think you ought rephrase it and ask perhaps once more when you get the chance. Also, he's a bit pretentious in his readiness to answer all your questions, "starting with the easy stuff" in response to "Who is God", I mean come on...
Lex, when you discuss people spending more time playing video games you remind me about the people in the movies Disney Pixars WALL-E (2008) or Ready Player One (2018). I'm sure there is more examples in media. I fear we are headed that way as a society, where people are just self isolated automatons whose sole purpose is to consume things, only engaging with others in a virtual world. People will love it too, make them feel like a god, creating any kind of world they choose. I'll still be gone fishing.
Pretty shallow observation. You use base media created by mega corporations to criticize… other media and people’s use of it. I’m sure the irony isn’t lost on me
That which causes man to sense and think within him of a higher power outside of him.
What does he mean by "more real than real"? That's thrown around a lot in these types of conversations yet no one really defines that. He also kind of side stepped some of Lex's questions or points.
Everthing goes through me i am the truth and the light
Wow, that is a lot of bullshit going through you. ;-)
@13:51 Arcons in some traditions were fallen angels. The word itself means Prince in Greek I believe. The videogame Destiny uses Arcon as a rank of the "fallen" as in fallen angel leaders or elite or princes.
@7:54 Consciousness which can look back and reflect upon Consciousness, this is most definitely a way to view the divine or even the logos..
I’ve thought the same way about the video games and ai virtual worlds. With Us essentially being the gods. The universe is ever repeating patterns we are recreating the same patterns of creation but instead of creating organically with cells atoms dna like the gods that created us Were re creating using the computers and these and synthetic materials that we’ve created to best replicate the organic materials and systems around us. Even computing is an organic system of the universe that we recreated
Existence Consciousness Bliss
It is a scholar repeating what he learned in academia. I prefer actual thinker that think outside of the box.
It reminds me of the age old question: which came first the chicken or the egg.
Rudolf Steiner talks about other quote invisible worlds that interact with man and cause effects in our reality
I keep returning to this video. Thank you
When you start to ignore your own thoughts, you’re there.
Lex made an insightful point about God, or Creation creating humans to learn about itself.
is Lex in Austin now?
"Ooh ooh, I know!!"
I don't really know, I just wanted some instant anonymous attention.
God is truth, maybe?
When we grow up we might come to the understanding that most what what is written when it comes to the gods is fictional. Divine is a loaded topic on its own. It seems the possibility of creator consciousness which we are a part of is closer to the truth. Material and immaterial consciousness. Think about it. It’s a web of connection.
This is why asking intellectuals about what God is, is a waste of time. You might as well ask a lawyer, or an accountant. It's like asking a string theorist what love is, or asking Deep Blue to analyze Smells Like Teen Spirit. Ask somebody with direct experience. Ask Ramana Maharshi, or Nisargadatta Maharaj, or at least a 15 year old who just took acid for the first time.
Does anyone know the name brand of the hoodie the guest is wearing?
Lex did not get at all (or wasn't interested) what Brian was trying to say.
YOU ARE CREATING GOD'S EXPERIENCE.
Lol... for real😆?
“ we start with an easy one...’
All my childhood in USSR, my youth in postsoviet era, where I was constantly brainwashed. I went, & still am going through a personal journey in search of higher power. Let me tell you it’s not an easy one.
I believe we all get divinity at the end, regardless of religion, acts of wrongdoing, incorrect beliefs. What all knowing All Loving Higher power would condemn an imperfect being Knowing that he/she is flawed and Will Commit wrong-doings throughout their lives on varying levels despite knowing they shouldn’t
How old is this guy?
Did you create the equation or did the
equation always exist❤
How wonderful it would be if Fridman were to read some classical theology, and not rely on psychonauts' and scientists' commentary.
amen
Why theology is just circular none sense, scientists are actually mapping “god’s” creation and creating it themselves.
Thank You,Sir.
Yoy can start researcing God on each major religions in the world. I personally now researching Islam theology and I found something interesting in the word of TAUHEED (or TAUHID), it's the word in Islam theology means One. But not only that One meaning, as I dig more, the more interesting it gets....
We are co-creators with God so is all.
Maybe the first German mystic? What about Hildegard von Bingen?
If instead of humans, cockroaches developed self awareness and intelligence and ultimately went on to rule the world, "god" would be a big roach in the sky in a white robe and flipflops
i just might stay in this video game we’re in because frogs. so kute 🐸💚✨
Lol 😄
What a title. Made my night!
God is that which there is no other
Congratulations brother. You stated the essence of Islam. May God guide you. You have a good heart.
For a lot of people WOW is already more "real life" than the actual "real life"^^
What a question! One thing is for sure, we didn't explode into existence from some powerful nuclear bomb floating in a dark nothingness. What created the space the universe fits in? What or who created the physics, the matter and energy? DNA? Consciousness? This all didn't just happen by a random chance from a single explosion billions of years ago. We can only see or explore a tiny fraction of outer space. We have no clue and can't perceive what "dark" energy or matter is, or even see or harness gravity or other yet to be discovered forces. It's so selfish and small brained of humans to think we're the center of intelligence and knowledge. There's sooo much more to be discovered yet.
Exactly
Opens with a quote of Joseph Campbell. Nice.
Someone should develop a Google Earth based 1:1 open world scientific realism focused Civ + Sims + Spore etc hybrid metaphysics simulating deity sandbox game...
Great conversation regardless of what your believe in! @6:29 reminded me of frank yang lol
We're just the product of physics and our evolution necessitated intelligence to survive the various episodes of catasrophism in the changing climates of Africa. This had the consequence of us needing protein for brain development which created a feedback loop for an even bigger brain because tools were invented for hunting/warfare. We became very adapted to finding patterns and here we are today.
In other words, we are the universe experiencing itself via biology by random processes that led to this moment.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC explain where I went wrong in your opinion.
You think God did it or something?
Randomness doesn't exist.
The Ismaili’s and the Sufi’s have a lot of good shit to say about it.
Damn that was a good question!
You live in duality.....if you can break free from that you Could know.
Campbell was good.
You will know when you don't need to ask.
All ideas matter . Unless they’re not thought about enough ;D
God is the perfect balance between feminine energy and masculine energy, the ying and Yang, the halo, the universal law of attraction, the 1s and 0s