COMPLETE TROLLING MOTOR BUILD - Oldtown Topwater 120 PDL!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Hey everyone! Thank you for watching my video, on the next one Im planning on swapping out the mini Kota head for a PWM controller box. First off this build did not require a lot of money but it did require a lot of brain time. I tried to include everything you’d need and each step to make everything seen by you guys, the viewers. My kayak is an old town topwater 120 PDL and the idea to install my version of an MK motor system was through the interweb. I hope this build interests you and you give it a try yourself.
The ONE thing I believe I did not capture on video was putting the motor lock above my “cutting board” and a hose clamp on the bottom half, and 1” chair leg cap for the top of my motor shaft.
If you have any questions comments or concerns please leave them down in the comment section and ill reply to everyone. I appreciate you all. Thank you for 1,400. Teacher by day and fisherman by-any-time-im-not-doing-the-honey-do's or hanging with my wife and dogs and my beautiful daughter. I try my best to make my videos weekly but sometimes life gets too busy! I hope you enjoy, I sub back and love reading comments/suggestions. Have a great day!
Materials
Cutting board - www.amazon.com...
30lb Minn Kota Trolling Motor
3/4” PVC pipe - at least a few feet
1 inch compression fitting
1 “to 3/4” fitting
2 PVC T’s
Electrical tape
PVC glue
Weather seal - www.amazon.com...
Speedbor bit drill - 1 1/8
Hose clamp
Hand saw
Huge shout out to Josh Adkisson from a FB group to the reply of some of my messages
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My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
How do you remove weeds and lily pads if it gets hung up?
Nice build! Only thing I disagree agree with is keeping the controller head. I would have ditched it since you’re not using it to steer. You’re only using it to switch gears so you could take the switch out of the head assembly and mount it next to you or frankly anywhere to save a ton of room.
That's awesome 👌 but I think the only flaw would be running into stumps or anything hard underwater because it doesn't have a breakaway system but other than that I'm literally going to follow this idea!!
Great job man. I just bought the same yak with the pedal system. However, I was wondering if there was a hack for an electric motor DIY. Now I wonder no more.
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Maybe I missed something, but how do you steer it if the head isn’t attached to the shaft?
"That's a breakthrough idea. Glad I had it!" is a great line! Looks pretty tight. Nicely done!
Thank you brother 🤩🤩🤩
Cray On. Next time tape the foil to the cardboard so it doesn't move on you when tracing. Try using a jigsaw to cut the cutting board. To smooth the edges, use a heat gun or flame after sanding.
Nice idea for trolling motor mount.
I really needed this! Thanks for the help, and I appreciate the advice. I will for sure mention these things on the next one. 💯
Dude i just found this video but this is pure gold, i will so copy cat this build once 2024 starts fo sho
Awesome I’m going to do the same exact build on my 10.6 pdl.
Simple suggestion on cutting shaft. Take a smaller diameter pvc tube, slip it over the wires and into the shaft. Use it as a safety barrier between shaft and wires while cutting the shaft. This will prevent possible damage to wires.
Thanks for the ideas. How are you clamping the shaft to keep the correct motor depth? Thanks again.
Wanted to add, I started with a led acid for my 46 lb thrust trolling motor, that us mounted directly in that spot. And my battery sits, behind my seat, and my 12V cabela's battery, and power box I DIY'D for my electronics, us in my bow hatch. I'm 5ft 7 151 lbs, worked great. Now I have 2 50 Amp lithium from amped Outdoors, and last all day, sometimes 10 plus hrs, if it's a hot day, I'm on my katak all day. But hope by now you gave all of that a nice coat of black spray paint. That would make it look sweeter..
Pretty damn impressive build, especially for someone that didn't know what a holesaw was called ;). Seriously though - nice build!
😂 came back and laughed at this again haha appreciate you!
You just stole over a thousand dollar from old town by showing us how to make this motor. Great job! I’ve always wonder if this was possible. Now it’s time for me to build one. Thanks again
I have the pdl120 you’ve just me inspired me to build one too but l will let my dad do the dirty work build .haha 😂. I forgot to mention about safety , I would put some type kill open/switch between battery and motor hopefully that helps 😇
That’s where it started for me too! Hope it gets perfected and really dialed in. You’re absolutely right about the kill switch! Also people are putting PWM boxes on them and really dialing it in! Appreciate ya!
This is like Apollo 13. You have to fit this square filter into the round hole. LOL
The post production of this video really cuts out the frustration and swear words🤣
This is awesome. I just picked up an Old Town Sportsman 120 pdl and will be mimicking the hole plug you used as a base.
Yes! I bought another cutting board and made a blank for myself just for those moments you have to pop the drive out. Glad you enjoyed it’
When it was all said and done and u had the motor running on the lake did it take on any water
I’d say it took on about as much as you would even with a PDL drive. I’m sure with some better craftsmans ship and seal it would be perfect dry. Otherwise it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary
Dude no joke I'm doing the exact same thing with my Minn Kota Motor and Old Town Sportsman 106 PDL. Great job with the build! I'm gonna try to replicate it mine and will let you know my results.
Great vid! 👍🏼
This is legit man! I’ve been sitting around the last few days thinking about doing this to my pdl120 and I thought surely there’s a RUclips video of it and bam yours popped up lol. Is it still holding up well and performing good almost a year after the build? I also seen in the comments by moving that head it kept the motor stationary and you still control with rudder system. Does the rudder system handle the extra power/speed ok vs the pdl?
man barely seeing these messages, it actually works extremely well. I tried running it with a lithium battery and it was a game changer. I would run it more but I think the lithium is a must. I used it for trolling and honestly it rips, the rudder works flawlessly.
@@fishingthe509 thanks for the response! It looks like the perfect setup for the pdl replacement. I’ve already picked up a trolling motor, wiring kit and basically everything I need except for the battery. I’m gonna get a lithium, that definitely seems the way to go for weight and performance, just haven’t hit the place order button yet cause it hurts so bad lol
Dude awesome build. New subscriber.
Last year I took the head unit off my trolling motor and put it next to my seat, works great. I am on a SS127 Bonafide, but just got a Sportsman 120 PDL. I want the best of both worlds, pedal and also power. I am now going to take the 5 forward 3 reverse switch in the trolling motor head unit and put that into a small waterproof electrical box. Looking at your build, I am going to copy it (thanks) and mount the new box with switch in it on top of pvc where you have the head unit. Again awesome build.
That’s exactly what I wanted to do as well’ I’d love to hear how it turns out for you! I think it’s like a PMW box or something like that right. My trolling motor head is getting kinda wobbly so once it wears down from the wear and tear I’ll be doing the same! Appreciate ya!
@@fishingthe509 you’d be much better off putting a pwm on it for infinite variable speeds and 3x battery life
CRAY-ON...grew up by the factory in Winfield, KS.
Dang it!! I’m a CRAN kinda guy 😂
Great job. Nice idea about the comperssion fitting taped on the outer diameter. Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate you!
New sub bro I have a old town sportsman old 120 I have to look in to doing this thanks for the video awesome just awesome!!
Thanks for posting up your trolling motor setup, i been looking for this ideal. Good job!
Awesome project! Are you still able to steer it without the head being on the shaft; instead it's connected to pvc and the wires?
Thank you!!! This particular kayak has a rudder system, so I actually control it from the little turn knob by my left leg. The motor is just used for propulsion. 👍🏼
I love the excitement. I don’t even have this kayak but was genuinely excited for this guy during this journey of just figuring it out!
Thank you 🙏
Nice work! I have been wanting to mock up something similar for my Old Town Predator PDL.
Hope it helps! At least a place to start, from the sounds of it, it’s pretty easy to put the PWM controller so I might just put that together in place of the head mount. Would be even more sleek and tight. Good luck!
Thank you for posting, great ingenuity on your part - I will try this on my OT 132 PDL. Quick question: Does having the motor head that close to your fish finder transducer cause any interference challenges on your electronics? I assume not as it is similar to the OT auto pilot. Just curious if you experienced anything. Thought I would ask.
Appreciate you! There have been 0 negative effects but I also now run my transducer off the starboard side.
Hey bro, great job. This is why I love today's kayaks. They are a one man boat. And you couldn't give me a boat. I purchased my 2021' Blue Lagoon, Hoodoo Tempest 120 Pdl. Once I saw, they design a short shaft, 46lb lb thrust trolling motor, that mounts exactly where my pdl mounts, and the reviews, I knew I would love it. So I have a 120 pdl X34" wide, with the motor in cuts through the water, average 4 to 5 mph. I'm 5ft 7 151, so she moves. Had a great 1st season, and this winter have many more additions going on. Waiting on my bixpy j2, that'll mount to my toe control drop down rudder. But obviously I'll run one for long runs, the other to troll around, and paddle around my spots., and I always learned it's 🖍 CRAYON. One word..lol. Be safe bro..
All my life I wanted a boat.. then I got this kayak! We’ve become a kayak family now and so it’s been a treat. Whenever I buy something expensive for it, I say to myself “still cheaper than buying a boat.” 😆 appreciate ya! What kind of battery are you running.
In rest of the world english it crayon but American English it seems you can just invent words on the spot so I guess cran is good too, although I have never heard that before
Wow! That was a pretty awesome idea for this topwater. Congratulations.🙂
Hope it helps! Thank you so much! 🙏
CRAYON ,that,s french way.your,ok Prof
How did you make everything water tight? I saw the window sealer but was that eventually enough? What about where the shaft goes into the water?
AWESOME. ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. Do you know what your top speed is?
Thank you!!!! I will find out tomorrow morning and I’ll come back here and let you know! The trip at the end was super spontaneous and I had nothing ready. Also want to find out if any chip affects the transducer .
Hows things going with your build on the water man? I have this kayak too and love in pasco. I'd love to meet, maybe swap and drop some fishing knowledge sometime :) so how much is it to licence that bad boy??
I’ve only taken it out a handful of times so far! It’s been such a dream. Only problem is the battery sucks! Makes the boat lean, I’d love to invest in a lithium battery with what I saved on the build tho. Lol
Heres a hint,...buy a jigsaw,...question ,...how do you steer,...
A jig saw would have worked in less than the first 10 mins u spent drilling😂
Great job on this video man it really helped me out. Is there any way I can trace that floor board you made or do you by any chance still have your template?? Thanks
I think one of my friends has the exact measurement. Let me try and find it and I’ll come back here and post it!
First time viewer. I just smashed the subcribe button and rang the notification bell. 👍 on the trollimg motor build that is thinking outside the box. Way to go. Excellent finished product. Looking forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you for creating these videos.
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me! We’re on the river right now chasing some sturgeon, hopefully a video soon! Appreciate ya!
Did you have a rudder system already installed on your kayak
What thickness was the cutting board 0.5?
Hey dude I like your DIY trolling motor build the only difference I would’ve done on your front support pipe is put end caps on each side so the water wouldn’t get in there when you’re in rough waters so that the wires don’t get wet. Outstanding build.
You’re right. I would need to try this!
How do you steer
This particular kayak has a rudder system!
Hey bro i liked your idea, look clean and unique but i have a question, how do you steer with the way is set up???
Thank you!!! I steer this with the rudder system on this specific body. So there’s a little handle on my left.
Great job, but show us the bottom also.
Your motor may have to be moved up or down to get the right power output so a longer shaft would have been better for adjustments.
Only issue is pulling it up for shallow water or clearing debris from the prop.
May want to use lightweight aluminum piping instead of PVC so you can pivot the assembly up like the PDL unit does.
Also, I would MUCH rather do this with a spot lock remote controlled Minnkota than a standard one like this.
Screw paying OT $4500 for their spot lock kayak.
you are right! i measured it about the same as the PDL distance prop. But i love the idea of matching the pivot assembly. I just tried to make it as cheap and reliable as possible. LOL I did pull off junk off the prop once and it was not fun. But i dont fish too much muck.
I love it, I've seen several videos similar to this. However, maybe I'm slow, how does it turn?
It is steered with the rudder system on the old town topwater 120 PDL. Sorry I forgot to mention that! I think it shows the steering knob at the end! Appreciate you!
With this build can you pull up the trolling motor without hitting the bottom and prop it up to avoid bottom?
can you put a link to california outdoors, tried searching couldnt find it.
Great job with such limited tools. Bet someone has used aluminum tubing to make what you did out of pcv
You know, I just cave man things in the moment. 😆
Did you secure the battery somehow so it wont move around in the hatch?
This is a killer set up im doing it good video
It worked insanely well for how I made it. Cut some corners but what’s a cheap DIY without doing that 🤪 appreciate ya!
Question do you turn if you have the head unit up front? Not bei g Attached
A cheap wood rasp would work faster than the file.
How do you actually steer it? The motor shaft is no longer attached to the tiller handle.
this particular kayak has a rudder system that compliments with the PDL drive, so the steering is done with a little “steering wheel” that is on this particular kayak.
Great question
@@fishingthe509 Thanks for clarifying. I have an Old Town Predator without pedal drive, been scouring RUclips for ways to mount a trolling motor without too much hassle. Easiest are sidemounts that look real flimsy. More advanced are rear mounts with cable steerers, electric lift motors, wooden parts, etc. Loved your front-center mount position and wish I could make it work somehow but there is no opening through the floor. Still watched and liked the video though!
Thank you brother I appreciate you! There’s a guy, on FB Kevin Dismuke. He sells this super cool kayak trolling kit (without motor) for like $300. Pricey but super nice setup. Check him out, I plan on buying from him sometime soon. Really nice guy
Would be a good video if you cut it down to about 10 minutes. Geez
Rudder????
This is an Oldtown Topwater PDL, so it has the factory rudder for the pedal drive installed already.
Kayaks are the ticket. Boats are a pain in the ass . $329 for 12 v 100 amp hours
Which battery?! On the market for a new one right now!
Cool mod, although now you can’t raise and lower your motor easily to go into shallower water but its nice to have your control right there between your legs.
Yea I typically fish some very deep water so I never really have to worry about lifting and lowering but I will admit it’s tedious to have to pull all the way out before docking it on the shore. Appreciate you!
you want to fill the holes on the PVC pipe so if you capsise water can’t get inside the motor
Great idea!
I hear people say cran from up north but as a recovering English major… it is properly pronounced cray-on…that is the way it is spelled and English pronunciation is (cray-on it’s got a long A and a short O like “ah” or crae-onn). Please tell me they still teach word pronunciation in school. No offense…my siblings are teachers too.
That’s the coolest thing!
I have the Oldtown Topwater 120 PDL and I believe that I’m going to give that a try!
It’s worked unbelievably well. Lol feels like cheating no joke haha appreciate ya!
Looks great but did I miss a part about how to steer?
Dude, 10 mins coping saw would result in fine finish, but you ended up with 10mins drilling and 15mins filing and not even finished)
I dont even know what a coping saw is.
how did you come up with the length ,to cut the shaft ?
I would bet you could sell that plastic plate n put together a kit for all that. Even if you put a motor on the back youd still would need a cover for the pdl hole. Does old town even sell a cover for the opening?
Tbh, I think they do. I also think there are a bunch of 3rd party sellers that Oldtown recommends. Close to $100 for it tho! So I had to improvise! Lll
You should sell these inserts lol
great work...lol i had to do a similar thing for my 106 mk. the control board has now burn out twice. so i made a back up. but mine can swivel (i can turn it around) and i can turn a handle that screws inwards to keep it straight. for my kayak. the motor hole is farther forward, so i only shortened the shaft and left the head on. it works great, but the cheap 45pounds thrust i bought is slower than the minn kota. 2 kph slower. i will probably install a pwm speed controler next, to be able to use my original minn kota motor. my advice if you do that too, use a powerful one with a bigger capacity because the usual ones , i hear, do burn out eventually. and i plan on installing the board where the original board is. under the aluminium plate(not in a plastic box). take care guys...lol
BRO Im going to pick up my 106PDL this weekend! gonna have to try this!!
Bro I am SO STOKED FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! I seen you sell your other kayak and was like what’s this guy up to 🤔 that is amazing!!!! Game changer bro.
Heck yeah buddy, was gonna wait, but everything started to get hard to find and I found one in Spokane! Had to pull the trigger. Can't wait for sure haha
Awesome video!! Hows it holding up? Im thinking of buying the pdl and later down the line making some sort of quick detach motor so I can swap back to pedals if the battery ever dies
So use a tape measure and a pencil. Tim foil seems like more work than it needs to be.
Yea It was a spur of the moment thing and I got a little too wild on the channel... haha I’ll be doing this soon because I want just a blank cutting board cutout to cover the gaping hole lol
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Stumbled across your video looking for a transom motor mount option. I have a mounted kayak dolley on the stern, and the cutting board idea is where I’m gonna start, trying to avoid the interference of the dolley and function and use the mounting screws from the dolley, this cutting board as a mount might be the solution! Loved the video and thanks for the inspiration!
So how do you steer the trolling motor? I must have missed something?
Sorry for the late reply, there is a steering rudder system.
Dude, this is exactly what I was thinking! Awesome video.
How did you secure the cutting board to keep it still?
This is a great question. Post video I put a hose clamp under the board to keep it from moving up and down. The shaft was pretty tight in the cutting board to where it wasn’t moving up and down too much. Maybe applying some black electric tape to the shaft till it gets tighter. Hope that helps.
Gave me some ideas thank you for your time and work making this to help inspire others, I have a trolly I can do this with I also have a small 4hp gas motor I’m going to be putting on my kayak, feel free lure 2
if you skipped the housing for the motor control would the speed settings be stepless, so that you could go ultra slow?
I believe adding an PWM box would help.
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Thank you 🙏
Who needs a engineer when we have the 509 guy. Great build, made it look simple.
Appreciate ya haha I just work with what I got 🤷♂️
Im from Texas…we say crown
Hey I have and idea how to trace the shape of the hole, cardboard on top than spray paint from the bottom. It works perfect. Good luck
Gonna give this a shot because I’m trying to just have the template now so I can roll without a motor! Appreciate the tip!
Not ganna lie when I saw you used a drill to cut the board I had some thought which I’ll keep to my self but I’m glad I stuck it out to the end. Good job and I’m glad you also showed the thought process. I almost want to try this on my Hobie
Dude, you are an effin DORK! I love it. Cool install. Gave me a chit ton of ideas. I have a Jackson Bite Flex Drive with the motor and a 24volt battery. When the motor finally fails I will be pulling this video back up. Awesome! You are going to be giving a few manufacturers some ideas for sure! One *minor* issue is going to be under water obstructions. Thanks for your filming efforts, I know it isn't easy filming and editing! Great JOB!
Solid video but pacific southwest has muuuuuuuuuuuuuch better sun sets 😅🍻
😤😤😤 you think so?!
Sorry . Off topic but what car is that?? Looked like a s15 for a sec
Its a mitsubishi lancer haha
I had my doubts in the beginning but that turned out slick. Haha way to think your way through it all. PNW is an awesome place in many ways.
This was a rare build of mine that made the cut! Lol thank you sir! Appreciate ya!
So dope... I've been thinking bout this for a while and u actually did it... props to u... question... would it work if u moved the motor further towards the bow?
You’ve actually given me a great idea, lol if you had the fitting go forward in a T shape towards the bow, you could attach a string to it and lift and drop like a mounted trolling motor on a bass boat. Is that what you’re thinking? Could be some structural ingenuity you’d need to lock it onto the handle in the front, but def possible. Thinking outside the box for sure.
@@fishingthe509 how sturdy is the whole unit when the motor is up/not deployed?
@@fishingthe509 no not right at the bow... I just meant to move the motor more fwd then where u put it... was there a reason to why u put it where u did? I believe California outdoors had his motor further fwd on the board
@@yakin_n_bassin8203 honestly, when it’s all glued together it’s very sturdy. Also using schedule 40 pvc was a must. Other than the cutting board wanting to rotate around the shaft of the trolling motor. It is a well put together unit.
I missed how he is steering it?
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How do you steer the motor?
I've been a union welder Metal fabricator for 32 years...for the tools you have and the experience I don't think you have...YOU DID GREAT ....BE PROUD...and I HOPE IT MADE YOU FEEL ACCOMPLISHED!!!
Bro I appreciate this comment. 🥲
Cool set up! If the trolling motor is only used for propulsion, I think you can size down the head/shaft into a smaller package
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This is a great video. I really appreciate this! The PMW box is next. Thank you!
@@fishingthe509 Could you show an update on how you made this change and any thoughts about improvements after living with it for a year? It would be much appreciated!
What do you do with the motor when putting in the water or taking it out at the landing part.
I just lift it up and flip it onto the storage compartment on front. Still able to lock. Sorry I missed this
I m missing something. How is this steered? The head is not connected to the motor shaft.
It is steered with the rudder system on the old town topwater 120 PDL. Sorry I forgot to mention that! I think it shows the steering knob at the end! Appreciate you!
Ok. That makes more sense.
How do you turn the kayak with the trolling motor?
It is steered with the rudder system on the old town topwater 120 PDL. Sorry I forgot to mention that! I think it shows the steering knob at the end! Appreciate you!
so how do you steer it?
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