Is There Too Much ART? - Draftsmen S3E23
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Is it possible to have too much art? A listener’s question forces Stan and Marshall to conduct a thought experiment on the topic, making them ponder and interpret if there really should be such a limit. The discussion then transforms to how artists and art appreciators can come to terms with whatever the answer may be.
TIMECODES:
00:00 - Intro
01:39 - Too Much Art
05:09 - What’s at Stake?
09:57 - Purpose of Art
15:26 - Compulsion
20:01 - Finding the Middle Ground
23:47 - Excerpt from The Forest
29:49 - Universal Scale
36:23 - Emotional Spectrum vs Values Spectrum
43:55 - What if there was too much art?
48:00 - The Value of Bad Art
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Do you think there’s too much art? How does your answer impact your approach to creating more?
There can never be too much art in the world period because there can never be too much beauty, fun, joy, love and giving. These are what art is to people those doing it and receiving it. As for the so called bad art is there really such a thing? Think about it the best artist in the world would they really look back and say the journey that got them where they are at was one of producing bad art? Should we tell all children starting you do bad art now but one day you won’t? No, every Scribble helps us learn and grow and that’s not bad. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder it’s not for us to judge that way and take joy, fun, and creative energy away from anyone. I didn’t use to enjoy abstract art like I do now. But much of it can reflect natural beauty in nature and for many years I said it was bad, but I was wrong! I think I didn’t see the beauty in it before simply because I didn’t take the time to really look at it. Stan’s painting is good and I have seen technically correct art work that I felt absolutely nothing for and did not want even though it was perfect! It’s not goodness or badness that matters with art but how does it move you or make you feel. This is why art is used in advertising and doesn’t even have to be what we would call beautiful it can be simple and childish and still make a company millions! This question and conversation should serve to get us making more art it has helped me to see how critical I can be of my work. I think the idea of bad art makes many not try and even quit. And I love Snoopy comics and Hello Kitty!! That’s my opinion and the saddest part of this question is the fact there is not enough time to see all the art in the world especially art of those learning to see the good in their work and encourage them to keep on working even if just for fun. Have fun everyone!
never too much art even if its the same thing it can be done in new ways. This idea encourages me to draw more. I think the purpose of art is to appreciate beauty for beauty's sake
@@deeperanddown There might not be enough new ideas but the very concept of anime/video game derived art is not really overdone due to the increasing demand of fandoms. it's just appealing compared to like heavily caricatured or western cartooned art.
..........."NEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!" .............there is never too much art is what I meant
there is never enough art....as long as we are around. what is good ?? whats is bad??? very subjective. i love your shows..but this is not a very good topic...lol
always get excited when Marshall says: "Let me tell you a story" haha
>>- WHY ->> is no one talking about how awesome the Draftsmen video thumbnails are? I’m excited and delighted every time I see the Stan and Marshall’s heads composited into paintings. Who made those? I especially enjoy the Rockwell ones and ones where they have child or lady bodies. Keep up the good work! Love the podcast.
yah they are realy well done XD
Alex is our resident Dr Frankenstein, Taking the heads of Marshall and Stan and transplanting them onto innocent, unsuspecting art pieces.
Worth getting to end of this episode just to hear Marshall take a bite out of an apple and say, "trees were a good idea". Hahahahahahah...
I mean, he's not wrong 😂
1. Have a 1 hour long existential conversation.
2. Have a mental health service as a sponsor.
3. Stonks
“Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Rachmaninoff, great 20th-century composer. The same is true for art.
35:24-36:34 in my understanding and enjoyment was the best summation of this discussion. In that brief span of time, you saw the realization of both our innocence and exploration meeting it’s consequences.
There are branches of this discussion that reach into my life and beliefs as almost any human opening up about the human condition would. I love listening to those that would challenge my way of thinking and perception. Thank you guys for what you do.
Here's my thoughts on this. No one forces you to be exposed to art. No one forces you to watch or listen to art right?
Think of art like a water well. No one forces you to drink from it. You drink from it when you want to. But if there's not enough water you're gonna stay thirsty. Art is not like food that can go bad. Art can only be considered better with time but it can't be considered even worse.
So my opinion is there can NEVER be too much art.
Water only expires in containers. Paintings and a lot of other art can expire, be destroyed and lost, go obsolete, change, be thrown away, and lose its original meaning or context for the window of time.
Consider that there’s tons of artists in the Renaissance; some trained since they were a child making subjective masterpieces…now think of the untrained artists who also exist…there’s very wealthy people that exist that aren’t the Medici family who bought the trained artist’s work..fast forward 50 years, the family gets killed or there’s an improper care so the art work is messed up and given to a new family because that one died from a sickness. It’s kept around until a war happens like…maybe WWI and the painting is stolen, it kind of looks a little mangled then the original artist and kind of isn’t cared for. It’s returned in poor condition but a person fixes it a little. Keep in mind, the untrained artists’ work is molding somewhere. The artwork is thrown in a back of a museum or gallery untouched and possibly written for and uncared for. Then another war hits! The painting isn’t considered good enough to the zealots that run around the streets and they destroy it. The painting is lost forever, stripped of its meaning, context, and doesn’t get to run history.
Also, considering the era I stated there are important artists who I don’t believe I need to list.
It’s nice to think quixotic thoughts on art but many people’s artwork will be lost in time. I make art. It may not last, it might be destroyed. You can care about lightfastness and conservation but there’s other factors if your art will exist after you die or even after it leaves your studio.😊
And yeah, I don’t necessarily think there’s too much art. It’s just that not all art can matter (not that it doesn’t) and that’s okay. It’s for the artist.😁
I was just thinking, when is the next draftsman podcast? I miss Stan and Marshal. Right on time!
Thanks for watching! We skipped last week because of Lightbox Expo. We're back on schedule for the rest of the year.
I think you could talk more on this topic. When I read the title, I thought you'd talk about how people criticize "bad" artists, telling them "there's too much art already, you think your art is worthy to exist?", it can also be internal. I feel bad sometimes for making oil paintings, as if I'm wasting resources to make bad art. Then I have to tell my self that I'm learning by creating. Another issue, I wish you'd expand on is capitalism and how we are ruining the planet by wasting stuff, when in reality most of the harm comes from huge corporations, not individuals. At some points, it sounded like Stan was saying, the universe will be fine, let's keep producing stuff at the same pace. When that shouldn't be applied to big corporations. I wish you'd differentiate between wasting as an individual vs as multibillion corporations. There are a lot of videos about fast fashion, green washing, how companies act like if individual customers recycled their plastic bottles, the environment could get better, meanwhile most responsibility lies on the companies that produce too much in massive amounts, then there are billionaires owning many mansions, and becoming rich by exploiting millions of workers, this is such a huge conversation, with so many directions to take.
This made me feel validated. I like printmaking, watercolor, and acrylics and I always feel like I’m wasting my time because I’m not worthy and I shouldn’t be paying too much because it’s a waste. I enjoy realism as much as I enjoy abstraction but being in school for art, it was such a headache because I was told to steer away from both and now I feel like I’m wasting resources when I should know what I want and it should be good on both of them.🥴
This got really philosophical, love it.
Oh this was a fun conversation! It made me laugh, so thanks so much for that. The main point that stuck with me was that when we insist on the viewpoint that art is to be consumed than it's easy to see how one could think "there's too much". It almost burdens us with a responsibility, as good, cultured people, to snap to and "enjoy".
For me, I don't see art as something to be consumed but something to be made. And again, not so there is more stuff, but because in the making it's offering me, the artist, moments of peace and feeling truly alive. If someone else stumbles across my stuff and enjoys it, too: double win. But that's secondary.
I know you're coming from an art production for entertainment angle, which brings up different concerns, but from a fine artist angle answering what art is for, this is always what I circle back to.
Anybody else feel like this?
No! not enough of your podcasts! Love yours! Thank you for being here and your great discussions!
aaah you brought me huge smiles. I missed listening to you guys. Excellent discussion, beautifully carried. You both are amazing♥♥♥
the concept of compulsive consumption of beauty and art blew my mind. It drains me every day, im 18 and I had that attitude to life and art for years. Thanks for making me see the need to work on it and understand it further♥
So I think I may have a new way of looking at the question. Is there too much art might be a question for someone who is trying to make art themselves. For instance, a digital painter trying to get into illustration. Well if you go through artstation, it "feels" like every style has already been explored(better than I can do it) and every pose/composition has already been explored as well. I was just seeing an ad the other day for the class 101 anatomy course where they even intentionally called out certain character poses that are re-used over and over again.
Another point to look at is there is too much inspiration to draw a newer artist in every different direction. "this realistic art looks cool, I want to do that." "But that stylized art looks cool so I want to do that." "Man that photobashing looks great, that's what I want to do" etc, etc.
I feel like this too often.
A possible interpretation of this question, that you didn’t cover in the podcast, is that they may have been considering the possibility that there may be so much art out there that it makes it too hard to get noticed as a new artist. Perhaps that it’s too hard to find all the best art through so much mediocre art. There may also be the concern that there is too much good art for people to get that excited about seeing the good art that you may produce. Perhaps they are wondering if the large amount of good art, that can be easily, and speedily, accessed, actually is serving to devalue the sense of special or rareness, of good art. Maybe they feel that people don’t have enough time away from seeing good art, with a wide range of unique styles, to develop a hunger to see something different. In that case instead of being wowed by a new art look that you may have developed, it’s instead looked at as just one unique and fresh looking style among many equally unique and fresh looking styles. So instead of taking time to stop and appreciate your art, it will be seen in a stream of one second clicks among lots of other art.
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In that case one might be given to wonder if it's even worth it to attempt to say something unique. If all the viewers are already full, than why try and feed them something they are not even hungry for? So perhaps it’s more of a question, of do we have too much access to too much art because of the internet?
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Another possibility is if it is more a question of are their too many artist out there trying to compete for work? If so does that make it more difficult to work as an artist? Does it take too long for a young artist to get good enough to stand out enough to get a good paying art job? Are there even enough art jobs for all the good artist out there?
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That was all just speculation of what they might have been wondering. None of that is actually a concern of mine except perhaps the last part about too many artist, and too little work.
They did address this, though.
There is so much out there to keep up with and the competition is really difficult. Truly there too much junk art that I do not care for but it seems other do. Creative art is never too much but commercial art can be so overwhelming.
I'll demonstrate the point with this comment's existence.
This question has value and relevance that goes beyond this episode's discussion, I feel. What happens when there is too much communication? It's be hard for us to hear each other over the noise. It also turns profundities into cliches. The noise itself can be overwhelming, disheartening, or saddening. When we can't be heard over the noise, but we speak anyway, it makes us lonely to know that we will not be heard, and it makes us feel meaningless when we know that what we did had no value.
Really interesting philosophical comments in this one - I love it! I've been listening to these podcasts for a few weeks now and I've got to say, I love Marshall's curiosity and spirit for life! I wish you were my friend. :)
Marshall is singing Alan Parson Project!
Now I'm halfway into the podcast and hearing humankind only existed for a quarter of a second - now I need therapy from your sponsor...
How people ascribe value to things ( objects experiences, others) is endlessly fascinating. We get it wrong so often, but we can't avoid it. It's part of the process
when we're talking about saving the environment, it's not about saving the earth, but saving the animals on earth. Most animal depends a lot on plants, etc etc. Earth will be fine even if we have nuclear war.
Anyway, there will never be enough art, If there are too many art already, human will create new niches to fill art with. If all other niches are very populated with art already, we may even invent new niches or genres to fill new art with
Wow...I just had to stop for a second to appreciate that I'm hearing a riff of an Alan Parsons Project song at the top of this podcast. That doesn't happen very often.
The question is very big and has different answers. But it made me think about this thing I have been thinking about lot lately. It's not that there is too much art, but more over that there is more need for the skill to limit the amount of art we consume. Some people are fine and can consume lots of content (paintings, tv series, movies, games, books, ect.) But some are fine with less and if they consume too much they get jammed like a printer with too much paper in the system. It feels like there are too many ideas that paralyze you, what you want to do, what you think you should create.
For me currently, if I consume too much art I feel like I lose myself and my own self-expression for a moment. I need to get some alone time, do something that is completely me or not art related.
Does that mean there is too much art? No. It just means that I should be okay with missing out on some of it so that I have better mental health and to create with joy. Maybe before when it was harder to get your art visible for thousands of people, we didn't have the limitless supply of inspiration we have nowadays. Now we have to regulate the intake ourselves.
I really loved the idea that when you concentrate to create for the small circle of loved ones and friends you have, the art you create will always have value. And that is something I try to aim towards rather than chase the followers, likes, shares and everything like that.
I was completely dumbfounded by the route this conversation took. That it went into environmental impact and "too much to feed my compulsion to consume it" just seemed super strange to me, as I have asked myself this question many times and it had nothing to do with these topics. I don't mean to be too critical, because good points were made, and honestly it was nice to hear that there are people out there who don't see this the way I do.
Any time I have ever asked this question it is because the access to view and create art has exploded in the last 20 years. I remember finding DeviantArt back in the late 90s. The biggest challenge to getting art on to that site was purchasing a scanner and getting the drivers to work. Now there are almost zero obstacles. The internet, and the world in general, is flooded with art. And a lot of that art is good, if not great.
Without going to a different page, or scrolling on this page, I can see 17 unique images. And this is not an art site. We have reached a point of very high saturation.
It is at the point where I can see art that would have blown my mind as a teenager, and now I just scroll past it because I've seen things exactly like it hundreds of times.
If this is a question you are asking yourself, the best answer I have found is to stop looking at art randomly. Stop scrolling through art station or deviantart or instagram. Instead, find the artists that you genuinely appreciate, and follow them directly through their websites, patreon or other outlets. Share that art with your friends, and encourage your friends to share artists with you. Get to know more about the artists whose work speaks to you.
If you are feeling explorative, head on to those huge sites and see if you find something you like. Or better yet, if there is something you've been thinking about try searching the web for those terms and find art related to that specific thing. It is more likely to speak to you than just random art.
I'm only about 10 minutes into this episode, but I wanted to leave this comment so I don't forget (maybe it will be answered later in the episode). When I think about this question, my mind doesn't immediately gravitate to "is there too much bad art", but instead is there too much good art? Let me elaborate. My biggest struggle mentally with art is how have an identity. Every genera, and every subject matter has been done to death. Possibly it's always been like this and maybe it's just been reviled through social media?
For example maybe someone really wants to make paintings of dragons. So they put hours and years into learning and perfecting dragon anatomy etc. All the while, knowing hundreds, possibly thousands, have done and been doing it better for way longer.
"Trees were a great idea."
Marshall Vandruff
I start asking this question when I'm down to justify why I feel bad about my art, so there's that component.
I DO really like the idea of there being galleries and museums as abundant in communities as gyms, cafes, and restaurants.
Also, we forget some art gets destroyed just like things die. If you stop making art, you only have that capsule of time in that old condition or none at all because it decayed away.
Charlie N. - You chose a wonderfully end frame.
Yes, there is too much art. Yet there isn't enough. The line between these answers is so fine, it can cut. I love to think about it because it does change your art perspective the longer you thing about it.
Yes Marshall, Trees were a great idea😂
Alan Parsons Project!!! YESSSS!!!
I'm of the opinion that there is a lot of art out there, but is there really "too much"?
"Yes", only if you are a new artist, struggling to find answers and things to study. Then there's TOO MUCH info to process.
My personal answer is, "no there isn't too much out there". There are many abstract ideas that art and artists shows us. We could think of our artwork as answers to questions no one has asked yet. They breathe life into many ideas and concepts and really...there's a lot of room left for everyone's ideas and art. Unlimited space for our thoughts.
But again, can that be an overwhelming pool that becomes hard to navigate professionally and casually? Sure, but it's both a strength and a weakness; a good thing and bad thing.
There's always room for growth in the digital space. The moment it manifests into our physical space, is when things become crowded and stifling.
Love this episode, guys! I've been around since Day 1 and I'm sticking around in the long haul. I can't thank you enough for your insights. ✌
As a computer technician by day, Windows 8 really pointed out to us the difference between "media consumption devices", and "media *_creation_* devices."
I think that "Is there too much art" needs to be looked at in a similar way. There's the "too much art to be _consumed"_ part, and the "too much art to be *created"* part.
There's definitely "too much art" for a single person to consume in a single lifetime - which is why we 'outsource' what art to consume, to a degree. We have other's curate what they've seen, and yet others to curate what others have curated, so that hopefully the "creme de la creme" floats to the top.
And from an individual basis, I can see there being "too much art" to create. I know I have sketchbooks upon sketchbooks of thumbnails that I would like, someday, to be able to develop into full pictures or paintings. Even chapters of a comic fully scripted out. But making art takes time, and while I'm trying to speed up my creation process - I don't see myself being able to create the art anywhere near the rate at which the ideas come.
What a coincidence, I recently got into Alan Parson's Project
An while I was listening the draftmen this question appears in my mind... Even if there is such a thing as "Too much Art" would I stop making Art?... Should I?... COULD I?...
Well, at least I found (entertainment) value in this episode so I guess it can stay, right? 👍
I was transfixed this whole video thank yall
Thanks for watching
I found the answer in the Lion King's soundtrack:
From the day we arrive on the planet
And, blinking, step into the sun
-- There's more to see than can ever be seen
More to do than can ever be done
There's far too much to take in here
More to find than can ever be found --
But the sun rolling high
Through the sapphire sky
Keeps great and small on the endless round
It's the circle of life
And it moves us all
Through despair and hope
Through faith and love
'Til we find our place
On the path unwinding
In the circle
The circle of life
This episode feels like a fever dream
Read this recently somewhere: " 'Earth' without 'art' is just Eh".
Stan struggling with infinity was really funny xD people look for an excuse not to do things and yes there's a lot of art and social media but did you try? did you become the best? did you talk to people? everyone's going to die.. let that free you! I dont think we can contemplate how many people there are or how much art exist
Trying and being the best is one thing, but are you happy about what you’ve done? Now consider that with everyone. There’s a niche audience, you don’t have to compete that hard because not everyone is competition.
I would love to see you guys discuss the prologue of The Picture of Dorian Gray!
sorry - preface!
Marshalls tremolo was hilarious )))))))))))))))))
Now it's not all the time but when I get "there's too much art" creeping into my head it's either me being overwhelmed by the amount of cool animations, comics, movies, and paintings I'm missing
Just like Marshall
But another half of it is l sometimes feel overwhelmed by the amount of not just good but GREAT art that I feel like my contributions and attempts are futile
What am I even adding to art with my art
So many masters old and new
So many professionals beyond me
How am I adding anything purposeful to this vast ocean with just my petite cup of water
The sheer amount of savants, geniuses, and prodigies it's hard to feel like anything I make would be worthwhile in comparison
All this being said comparison is the thief of joy, and I do get fulfillment from art itself and what I listed is just an intrusive lie I deal with every now and then
Art helps me create, meditate, explore, think, and progress a skill
But it's still frustrating to deal with some of the emotions attached to the sheer monumental greatness of all art made and being made
It's like lifting weights is still fulfilling in itself for many reasons but I could still deal with body dysmorphia when encountered by the entitre history of bodybuilding
Today I listened to a podcast about art and the reason we all make art in this time. It hade goods point in it and make me reflect about the reason I want to make art. My husband asked me the other day what was the reason For me to make art At the same time he repost I hope you make it for yourself and not to seek approval out there. Good point as well. What happen if we all don’t care about the art it self and focus in the messages. It will be so much art still. Even if we stop to talk and just make mark for express our inner conversations? Isn’t the reason we make art still?
I'm curious about this podcast! What was the name of the episode and the host/esses?
I think you missed the intent behind that person's comment: Is the ease of interconnectivity combined with the volume of artists in the world leading to too much homogenization of style and content within the art industries? I've heard the "is there too much art" question on several occasions from young artists, and when they are given time to extrapolate, it very often becomes a discussion about the sameness of a lot of industry art and how a fledgling artist can find a unique voice that stands out while still being marketable to industry employers. I don't think there is one answer to this question. Rather the solution is different for each individual artist, and that journey to find your own solution is part of what being an artist is all about.
Dang, you answered the question and you answered it well. I think they’re looking for comments to get more money and traffic. I wish your comment was on the top.
hi, folks. When i started art studies at university i had a very similar thinking, It was kind of overwhelming trying to understand,comprehend or just being updated about all the artists from History, and today. Now when i remember that kind of thoughts i am pretty sure that that was only my immaturity and untrust in my own tastes, preferences and the lack of a conscious search and choose of a specific branch or line of Art.
This made me question. Are art limited? Will there be a limit to how creative art will become in the future?
As an art hobbyist I can't say there's too much art because that would mean I should stop drawing to not add to the "too much" 😅
The Universal scale chapter made me feel better. I just wanna live and die in peace why is that so hard smh. People make it troublesome for people to just let them be :/
I interpreted it to mean oversaturation. I'd agree. I also feel as if there is a stagnation in truly great art. Too much replication, "Fan" art, and mimicking.
" ...in a failing society Art, if true will reflect the decay."
32:57 The real answer
oh boy this sounds interesting
Oh yeah we're always trying to keep it interesting on the podcast
@@Draftsmen OH MY GA-*cough* I mean, yes, and the thing is this question resonates with me too like Marshall said. I immediately fall in the category of both too much art to ever aknowledge, and too much art for yours to be found or stand out. Personally it's a little existential and it makes me ponder about the purpouse of me making art. Not that it demotivates me, it's just a little of heady.
How can I get the draftsmen thumbnails framed to put on my wall
I'd rather have too much art than too little art. The good thing about too much art is you at least you can have very specific tastes that can appease you. It can help shape you and direct you in what you like to look at but potentially what you like to create. I for example am drawn towards sad artwork, depressing artwork, maybe that says something about me and potentially my mental state but I can't deny it has influenced what I prefer to create.
If you're someone who prefers to just consume art and not create it then you'll never have enough time to appreciate all the good art, there is too much and even then it's incredibly subjective.
Makes me want to listen to Rush's 2112.
I'm with Stan on this one. Humanity has been around for .25 second of 24hrs since first life form? IF that's a correct postulate, what we could possibly do pales in comparison to biologic history, and even less in geologic history... And less in astronomic history! Ad infinitum...
Can you make a book review episode on Tolstoy's book " What is Art?"
"Is there too much food?"
Most of the health issues of western society are problems of plenty, not problems of scarcity. I.e obesity vs scurvy
"Is there too much oxygen?"
Too much Oxygen intensifies the combustion process.
That’s not the same thing. Food is something that could kill people. There is a lot of food in the western society and it’s under a paywall so 60% of Westerners end up starving. Others eat garbage food because of resources and die from sedentary behaviors (not food).
Artwork is not food or oxygen. Art can be a reaction to something that happens. Artwork can be in anywhere or done by anything whether it moves a person or makes them angry. It’s also an interaction with the “artist” and the viewer.
This is more a comment of existentialism. There is a lot of art but what is it? Is it cared for? Does it stand the test of time? What does it look like? Who cares for it? Who gets to buy it?
You avoided the whole answer just to write abstract questions to something that actually needs an answer. Just say no and why.
Art is a lot more subjective than too much food or oxygen. 99% of oxygen is unusable and would make most carbon-based life forms very sick.
Food isn’t offered to people because Western Society sees people as meaningless, Darwinism where the best people, the worthy, and “strongest”, lasting people get to decide who gets to live and be happy.
In the US, many people are fat from eating what they can because their food sources are limited to garbage (food deserts), or are fat because they binge eat. Meanwhile some people starve or are homeless. What about it? Who do you elect? How does your country work? I try to vote for people I care for or believe will help.
Consider also that there’s artists that have destroyed art based off their looks, identity, and class. Or their art is irrelevant. There’s so much art and people don’t go out looking for it but don’t even care about a lot of stuff because of indoctrination and propaganda.
People will see the loss of Mona Lisa and any Pollock piece to be more of a cultural loss than anything! on Instagram.
I'm directly replying directly to Marshall's quote, and since Marshall brought it up, it is absolutely a fair comparison.. Is there such a thing as too much food? I've given definitive proof that we are seeing signs point to very likely. Is too much oxygen a bad thing? It can be in fiery situations.
Is there too much art? I don't know, but I'm not making a claim one way or another. Not knowing the answer is not the same as avoiding the answer.
If you weren't so accusatory we might have a rational discussion instead of trying to score gotcha points on things I didn't claim.
Too much art?
That question never occurred to me coz I ignore anything that doesn't work for me lol
I feel like there needs to be an amendment to the question: "is there too much art for ME"
i live for these intros HAHAHHAHAAHAH
AI is going to replace us all anyway so...
EDIT excuse my cynical comment I'm really struggling today. Marshall, you really made me feel better you are a treasure. There can never be too many sunsets.
Sorry you're struggling today. Im glad this episode was able to make you feel a bit better.
I mean…not really. AI is made by humans so it’s limited to humanity. Just think of competing with more people! 😊 Sucks right?! If AI exists or not you’re still competing.
On the brighter note, you are doing as best you can right now and you’re doing a lot. Not everyone can say the same thing. :)
Maybe it's all about the trees, and eventually they will develop a consciousness and do great things. And we were this little virus that was dangerous for a while because we threatened to destroy the trees, but it all ended well because humanity only destroyed itself and trees could continue to evolve.
There is too little of what i like, thats why im trying to do it myself
Marshall trying to be a dubstep artist now.
Louvre has 5500 paintings alone. Not too much art. Not enough paper and canvas. IMHO
Marshall reminds me of the prog band gentle giant hahaha
I think there has always been too much art and there will always be too much art as humans are around
Off the subject of art a bit, paper is a truly good and sustainable industry - don't turn people off to using paper! Besides most of it is recycled, multiple times.
People and humanity does matter to the Universe as we may be the only way the Universe experiences itself.
The level playing field of today has allowed for all to flood forth, some great, some awful, most mediocre - just like people! And just like people, it all has is place and time, but then Time will eventually consume it so that more can be generated. Out with the old in with the new. Only now it's on a near daily basis 😬
How can there be crap-art if art comes from a place of expression?
I would think that guy must just be annoyed with the commercial art industry and how competitive it is now with so many highly ambitious people raising the bar. and perhaps not appreciating all the quality art since you become desensitized to seeing so much from the top people. bottom line its just the attitude and outlook. social media can promote negative ideas and assumptions about what art should be,
What is Bad Art and Good Art ?
What is crap art though? If art is an expression, how do we have good and bad art?
Let someone who has never touched a musical instrument try to express himself with a violin and come back to me with the results. I suspect you'll find that their unskillful expression is not particulary valuable :)
The garbage truck 🤣
It's always got to be part of show
There are lots of artist that draw awful art that's highly offensive. Though I guess a select few do enjoy it.
The 1% of great art is the result of the 99% of waste existing
:0 Interesting opinion.... what is that on your profile pic?
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I think you guys got distracted and took the question to too meta a place.
The easiest argument for the question of “too much art” relates to the extreme difficulty of an average artist to monetize their work. People spend hours creating beautiful art only for nobody to see it and it to be buried.
The supply of art greatly exceeds the demand for it. Many very good artists are just giving their work away for free.
To much is never enough hummmm🤔
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Haha Marshall said 'Sperm'
HEY STAN- you wanna make REAL money, put up a montage of all draftsman hillarious promo screens of all episodes. that's gonna soar your bitcoin! you'll see
My mom have a 20 times bigger Stash of A4 whit recipts than me of drawings....AND she- trashed a Lot More to
Too....pardon
No there isn't too much art and the bad art is usually the physical byproduct of inexperienced and amateur artists getting better and trying to improve their craft.