My very first memory of dota was my friend traching me the basics in a bot match, only for the enemy pudge to hook me while I was standing around the Radiant Jungle, and my friend as Juggernaut, panic spinned even though he was fine. Ah good times.
I love seeing the contrast between the run-of-the-mill pubs and the biggest stage. Jugg has always been a decent pick in pubs and that made me think he was a lot more successful at TI than he actually was.
It's been a decade when we played dennis mode tournaments in HoN, now I randomly stumble across some great in depth dota video and it's Baumi again - the world of content creation is a small one.. I'm happy to see you still have the passion, congratz on the incredible new channel and journey, bruder
The first episode was great, techies episode was nostalgic with the hype reveal, this one is even better, a hero that didn’t change much, but the way to play it did.
@@jpeezie3192wtf are u talking about? Do you mean the horrible graphics, complete lack of a robust matchmaking system or just the restriction the engine imposed due to it being made for a completely different game?
Well, Jugg is good at laning now because one of his facet allows him to E crit with Bladespin... which results in some insane damage at early levels. Also, the Aghanim's Scepter mini-omnislash is very fun
As someone who has never played Dota and only follows the International every year this is kinda like a look behind the scenes that explains why a hero that dominates one year is entirely absent in the next one. Very interesting and entertaining. Looking forward to the Shadow Shaman episode. He was picked/banned in what feels like almost every single game during the first TI I watched (4 I think) and I can't remember seeing him even once since then.
shadow shaman checked a lot of boxes in the early stages of dota. actually N0tail played a beast Polywog Priest [hon port] esp mid so I can see why he chose it when they converted to dota 2. the hero has a lot of crowd control, could push or team fight really well. the main reason I believe shaman stopped getting picked is due to the sheer amount of offense the meta supports can do now. Shaman has high wards cooldown and needs to channel shackles for it to be effective. now supports like Riki or Snapfire can easily counter shaman. Riki is invisible and can run the map since there are less sentry wards and since the map is bigger, you'd rather use sentries for counter warding. and Snapfire or other save supports can just push you out of the way from wards. the big thing is that there are more team fights more often. having a high cooldown ult is not worth it right now unless you can play around your timing.
The meta has shifted a bit. Back then fights would occur around objectives. Team A wants to take a tower, and Team B wants to defend it. Right now what usually happens is that Team A and Team B fight and whoever wins takes the nearest objective. The fights themselves are usually not centered around objectives. So shaman has to decide: do i save my wards for the tower (which he doesnt need since when they get to the tower the enemy team usually is dead anyway), or use them in a fight (they frankly suck in fights) or do i chose another hero which is great in Teamfights, like Jakiro
Serpent wards were great for demolishing towers, but I guess as pushing became less important the need for strong pushing ability dropped. He has good lockdown but the range was always short.
There are many reasons why you would go for other supports instead of shaman, the main reason I think is that his ult is kind of pointless. Pushing towers early is just not a good approach
Jugg was my pick of choice for my longest time playing dota, but these series is great. The axe episode actually surprised me quite a lot, given how dominating he was in pub games, I didn't expect his competitive to be so weak. Keep up the good work baumi!
Io should be fun, looking forward to it. If you're taking suggestions for what to do after, I'd vote for the punching bag in all your demonstrations: AXE. Big personality, lots of fun. Of course I also want to see my personal favorites Viper, Shadow Shaman, and Antimage but AXE deserves it more IMO.
I think you missed a crucial period between TI4 and TI5 when Jugg was overwhelmingly strong along with Troll Warlord, Axe and Sniper. Those three were nerfed severely, as well as mask of madness Jugg loved at the time. It was the 6.83 version, while TI5 was played on 6.84 version after the nerfs to Jugg. I know it’s not strictly related to the International but it provides some important context
I still remember running around at 520 speed with mask of madness and SnY. That was also the patch where dota had the most daily and monthly players too. It all went downhill when they did away with all of that and destroyed that playstyle.
@@foxsteve9937 agreed xD haha those were the good days when dota's monthly active player base threatened league of legends's player base, something was right about dota back then compared to nowadays when nobody fights you for carry role anymore. It's almost as if carries being fun to play makes the game popular hmmm
@@foxsteve9937 it definitely felt bad when a team with troll, axe and jugg auto won, but kills were so much easier to come back and people got to "play" the game vs nowadays where everybody's desire to kill and make plays typically gets denied via multitudes of healing and damage reduction which essentially denies many core players's ability to 'play' the game
More of a league player myself. I’ve played dota 2 on and off throughout the years. These deep dives into the characters and their history are fascinating though. I love game design and how players find unique ways to use characters.
I’d insist you keep playing, even if the game is somehow even more complicated than league already is. I always love seeing moments of recognition like “oh that’s just this ability” but in some subtly different way from league players
In the Warcraft 3 DotA Juggernaut was a strength hero that had some similar abilities. He had the whirlwind, healing ward, but his crit was one of his regular abilities. His ultimate was a simple 100% damage buff that used to last as long as it's cooldown, but later it was nerfed to 45 seconds with a 1 minute cooldown. Back when Boots of Speed still stacked, I once got 112 hero kills in a single game with him. Fun times.
It was probably even harder back in Warcraft 3 DotA days. The WC3 engine compared to modern MOBA games felt abit clunky and hard to adapt to. Just try to play WC3 DotA vs AI after few years of LoL and you will understand. It was fun game, but learning curve ( which included adapting to WC3 engine quirks and limitations ) was utterly insane, even if you just play pub games.
I remember the days just maxing spin 1 lvl of crit and putting all skill points into stats. Jugg had low int gain at lv 7 so those extra stats allowed 2 spins + omnislash at lv 7.
God bless you for including clips of the most iconic jug videos as part of this video. I think genuinely "I'm the juggernaut, bitch!" Is what made me want to play dota in the first place and I've always loved trymike4instance's videos too
You make some interesting videos with the whole backstory of the heroes. Is a story of dota changes in the pipeline? Would love to see the evolution of maps, the added skilltree, shard, roshan position etc. Otherwise keep on making these =)
I still love jugg even in 7.33, his spin is really strong and with his shard you can abuse the fact that, his shard "auto attacks" and your right clicks are separate 😁 his spin also stacks with attack buffs😁 (proc items also proc). First hero I learned. Has a great escape/magic protection as well as massive solo damage with ult and spin as well as an amazing heal, if protected.
I am sure even Ana will learn a few things from this video. Absolutely full of beautiful insights and a memorable watch. Great stuff Baumi and team. Just wanted to give a personal recommendation, an interesting story would be to cover Elder Titan. A support? Offlaner? Carry? A top pick at TI... while also being one of the most ignored pub heroes. The research sounds like fun, the insights and resulting video... even more. Thanks again, the Jugg stuff was simply amazing!
Remember in wc3 when blademaster (juggernaut aka yurnero) ulted, the animation sound of the mechanic was the same as wisps detonating around the target
You should use some music in the videos. I think there is some music still? But some sections are completely quiet, and the music is very quite whenever used.
At first I thought you covered The Play of TI2 a bit quick, but I realized that's because this is a video about Juggernaut and not about The Play. It did make me think that it could be interesting to have "short stories of dota 2" interspersed with the full length videos at some point in the future. The Play in particular could be pretty fun to go over and explain to non-players or players who started later for why exactly it was such a display of skill.
Looking forward to continuing to gain base level access to the competitive scene through some of the most accessible educational content on Dota I’ve seen in a while
My brother, who could be a pro if he had a team, always said Ana has 1 ability that is legues better than any other carry players, he always knows where to farm. If you look at Ana showing up to team fights you will see that he was always farming nearby before.
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This video series is what brought me back to watching Dota videos
not only that, i started playing it too
@@sticky13337 I am actually considering reinstalling Dota2, 8 years after uninstalling lol
@@oojikarasuma1 same
😅😅😅
@@oojikarasuma1 Any recommendations for similar videos?
My very first memory of dota was my friend traching me the basics in a bot match, only for the enemy pudge to hook me while I was standing around the Radiant Jungle, and my friend as Juggernaut, panic spinned even though he was fine. Ah good times.
I love that the way you narrate the heroes is in such a way they feel like Athletes in the grand scheme of Dota 2.
I love seeing the contrast between the run-of-the-mill pubs and the biggest stage. Jugg has always been a decent pick in pubs and that made me think he was a lot more successful at TI than he actually was.
I think that makes sense since Jugg usually need coordination to overwhelm. Pubbies don't have that most of the time
This video is great but it does miss some metas that did not occur at ti such as 6.83 where jugg was extremely broken
@@awesomeg11then it's not a miss, because the videos primarily talking about how the hero fare at TI.
juggernaut: The face of dota!
also juggernaut: *has a mask*
55:37 A little sad you didn't talk about that very very strange looking SF and Tinker.
It's been a decade when we played dennis mode tournaments in HoN, now I randomly stumble across some great in depth dota video and it's Baumi again - the world of content creation is a small one..
I'm happy to see you still have the passion, congratz on the incredible new channel and journey, bruder
The first episode was great, techies episode was nostalgic with the hype reveal, this one is even better, a hero that didn’t change much, but the way to play it did.
Loving this series. I'm really loving the guests you manage to get aswell
It's so interesting to watch the Dota 2 (a game I stopped playing long years ago) history multiple times, from different POVs. Love it, thanks
im so looking forward to this (premier in 4h), your last 2 vids were amazing on techies and pudge. Keep it up!
Your series has built my intrigue in dota greatly! I’m a fan of mobas already but this is quickly making me consider hopping into some dota 2
1:51 so that's how Jugg got his Arcana lore wise
Such a fantastic video series. Can't wait to see what the team produces next!
I think it would be cool to show the dota1 version of heroes just for a second at the beginning
1:12:35 there's a typo on the team tower bounty i think it's supposed to be 100 instead of 900
Oh my, how much I miss the old jugger with Phase Drums Aghs. He was really good in low rated pubs.
Thank you for making this series.
I miss those days when Jugg would boot that annoying windrunner out of lane at lvl6 because her bullshit windrun did not fly in the face of omnislash.
DotA 1 is and will always be superior to DotA 2
@@jpeezie3192wtf are u talking about? Do you mean the horrible graphics, complete lack of a robust matchmaking system or just the restriction the engine imposed due to it being made for a completely different game?
Well, Jugg is good at laning now because one of his facet allows him to E crit with Bladespin... which results in some insane damage at early levels. Also, the Aghanim's Scepter mini-omnislash is very fun
As someone who has never played Dota and only follows the International every year this is kinda like a look behind the scenes that explains why a hero that dominates one year is entirely absent in the next one. Very interesting and entertaining.
Looking forward to the Shadow Shaman episode. He was picked/banned in what feels like almost every single game during the first TI I watched (4 I think) and I can't remember seeing him even once since then.
shadow shaman checked a lot of boxes in the early stages of dota. actually N0tail played a beast Polywog Priest [hon port] esp mid so I can see why he chose it when they converted to dota 2.
the hero has a lot of crowd control, could push or team fight really well.
the main reason I believe shaman stopped getting picked is due to the sheer amount of offense the meta supports can do now. Shaman has high wards cooldown and needs to channel shackles for it to be effective. now supports like Riki or Snapfire can easily counter shaman. Riki is invisible and can run the map since there are less sentry wards and since the map is bigger, you'd rather use sentries for counter warding. and Snapfire or other save supports can just push you out of the way from wards.
the big thing is that there are more team fights more often. having a high cooldown ult is not worth it right now unless you can play around your timing.
The meta has shifted a bit. Back then fights would occur around objectives. Team A wants to take a tower, and Team B wants to defend it. Right now what usually happens is that Team A and Team B fight and whoever wins takes the nearest objective. The fights themselves are usually not centered around objectives. So shaman has to decide: do i save my wards for the tower (which he doesnt need since when they get to the tower the enemy team usually is dead anyway), or use them in a fight (they frankly suck in fights) or do i chose another hero which is great in Teamfights, like Jakiro
Serpent wards were great for demolishing towers, but I guess as pushing became less important the need for strong pushing ability dropped. He has good lockdown but the range was always short.
yeah teams figured out his spells don’t do anything if he’s dead
There are many reasons why you would go for other supports instead of shaman, the main reason I think is that his ult is kind of pointless. Pushing towers early is just not a good approach
These videos just keep getting better, can't wait to see how they improve!
Love this production quality
Jugg was my pick of choice for my longest time playing dota, but these series is great. The axe episode actually surprised me quite a lot, given how dominating he was in pub games, I didn't expect his competitive to be so weak. Keep up the good work baumi!
I don't even play dota 2 but I love these long documentary videos. Very well made
I'm not even playing Dota2 (mostly original Dota, HoN, and League) but this serie is very entertaining to watch. Thank you
Another awesome vid Baumi!
Io should be fun, looking forward to it. If you're taking suggestions for what to do after, I'd vote for the punching bag in all your demonstrations: AXE. Big personality, lots of fun. Of course I also want to see my personal favorites Viper, Shadow Shaman, and Antimage but AXE deserves it more IMO.
The vids are definetly good, usually finish them in one sitting, time flies.
Thanks!
Amazing video series! Excellent job, and I'm looking forward to more!
This dude did not just pull a josh strife hayes on me, instantly subscribed. you earned it
I think you missed a crucial period between TI4 and TI5 when Jugg was overwhelmingly strong along with Troll Warlord, Axe and Sniper. Those three were nerfed severely, as well as mask of madness Jugg loved at the time. It was the 6.83 version, while TI5 was played on 6.84 version after the nerfs to Jugg. I know it’s not strictly related to the International but it provides some important context
I still remember running around at 520 speed with mask of madness and SnY. That was also the patch where dota had the most daily and monthly players too. It all went downhill when they did away with all of that and destroyed that playstyle.
@@saberxjm its a very funny playstyle when huge dps manly heroes dominate the meta imo, but peop´le hate it so much
@@foxsteve9937 agreed xD haha those were the good days when dota's monthly active player base threatened league of legends's player base, something was right about dota back then compared to nowadays when nobody fights you for carry role anymore. It's almost as if carries being fun to play makes the game popular hmmm
@@foxsteve9937 it definitely felt bad when a team with troll, axe and jugg auto won, but kills were so much easier to come back and people got to "play" the game vs nowadays where everybody's desire to kill and make plays typically gets denied via multitudes of healing and damage reduction which essentially denies many core players's ability to 'play' the game
More of a league player myself. I’ve played dota 2 on and off throughout the years. These deep dives into the characters and their history are fascinating though. I love game design and how players find unique ways to use characters.
I’d insist you keep playing, even if the game is somehow even more complicated than league already is. I always love seeing moments of recognition like “oh that’s just this ability” but in some subtly different way from league players
Oh my god, the level of detail and the awesome presentation of this video amazed me. GJ man.
Great series Baumi, keep up the great work!
Love your content baumi, whether it's here or the main channel I've been watching your content religiously for years now. Thanks!
I’m a league player so I don’t understand too much about the game of Dota, however your videos are so entertaining I just keep coming back!
Petition once again to male a series on the spirit brothers!
In the Warcraft 3 DotA Juggernaut was a strength hero that had some similar abilities. He had the whirlwind, healing ward, but his crit was one of his regular abilities. His ultimate was a simple 100% damage buff that used to last as long as it's cooldown, but later it was nerfed to 45 seconds with a 1 minute cooldown. Back when Boots of Speed still stacked, I once got 112 hero kills in a single game with him. Fun times.
These videos are so welldone
appreciate all the effort that went into this video, good job man
I’ve tried several times to get into the game and just can’t seem to do it. But I love these videos; find the history fascinating.
It was probably even harder back in Warcraft 3 DotA days. The WC3 engine compared to modern MOBA games felt abit clunky and hard to adapt to. Just try to play WC3 DotA vs AI after few years of LoL and you will understand. It was fun game, but learning curve ( which included adapting to WC3 engine quirks and limitations ) was utterly insane, even if you just play pub games.
Loving these more and more brings me back to better days gj baumi looking foward for the next video
My favorite dota series on RUclips nowadays
keep doing this kind of video..its like podcast for dota
The attention to detail and research is just amazing
Haven't played Dota 2 since 2016, your vids making me want to load it back up
Thanks for the high quality video again baumi!
These videos made by this Channel, made me install dota, live the style of the videos and keep up the great work🎉
Amazing video, juggernaut was my first hero and one the favourite, good to remind him a bit
I remember the days just maxing spin 1 lvl of crit and putting all skill points into stats. Jugg had low int gain at lv 7 so those extra stats allowed 2 spins + omnislash at lv 7.
Its sooooooo cool to hear Xboct comment on this epic era of early Dota.
Baumi, thank you for the work you're doing
18:17 man i completely forgot about that masterpiece of a video
Forgive me father, for I have sinned, I didn't look at my other monitor when the narrator demanded it
Thank you for the video guys! Great work! 🎉🎉🎉
Great video. I really like the recap at the end too!
Another wonderful video. Really hope this channel reaches a larger audience.
Great concept here dude. Entertainment and information.
love this channel thanks for this Baumi!
Great video Baumi. i really enjoyed it. There is a clear improve. Congratulations
God bless you for including clips of the most iconic jug videos as part of this video. I think genuinely "I'm the juggernaut, bitch!" Is what made me want to play dota in the first place and I've always loved trymike4instance's videos too
"Face of dota"...wears a mask
He’s shy
The narator means of face of dota yurnero is carry for beginners
Void: ...
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You make some interesting videos with the whole backstory of the heroes. Is a story of dota changes in the pipeline? Would love to see the evolution of maps, the added skilltree, shard, roshan position etc. Otherwise keep on making these =)
Baumi nice to see that you are still here :D
I still love jugg even in 7.33, his spin is really strong and with his shard you can abuse the fact that, his shard "auto attacks" and your right clicks are separate 😁 his spin also stacks with attack buffs😁 (proc items also proc). First hero I learned. Has a great escape/magic protection as well as massive solo damage with ult and spin as well as an amazing heal, if protected.
I still get chills from The Play
I love the new format Baumi!
Man, I really enjoy these videos because I've been playing Dota since 2013 and it's wild to see how the game has changed and progressed
I am sure even Ana will learn a few things from this video. Absolutely full of beautiful insights and a memorable watch. Great stuff Baumi and team.
Just wanted to give a personal recommendation, an interesting story would be to cover Elder Titan. A support? Offlaner? Carry? A top pick at TI... while also being one of the most ignored pub heroes. The research sounds like fun, the insights and resulting video... even more.
Thanks again, the Jugg stuff was simply amazing!
Great work !
A video about spectre I would like to see .
Those movies are crazy good! Thank you for your work. Waiting for an antimage, arc warden and natures propher episodes
1:43 why there is a courier image when jugg spins?
Remember in wc3 when blademaster (juggernaut aka yurnero) ulted, the animation sound of the mechanic was the same as wisps detonating around the target
Ah, the face and namesake of Dota, John Dota!
love these series!!! cant wait til you do story of my fav hero arc warden
I dont even play(60hours) or watch alot of dota but your videos are simply amazing. You deserve so many more viewers
You should use some music in the videos. I think there is some music still? But some sections are completely quiet, and the music is very quite whenever used.
At first I thought you covered The Play of TI2 a bit quick, but I realized that's because this is a video about Juggernaut and not about The Play. It did make me think that it could be interesting to have "short stories of dota 2" interspersed with the full length videos at some point in the future. The Play in particular could be pretty fun to go over and explain to non-players or players who started later for why exactly it was such a display of skill.
He does have a video about The Play over at the other channel
Love the series so far!! 💖
Just making sure to help the channel grow
These videos are great love you baumi❤
This video series deserves way more views...
I know its OOT and I have seen this Dendi play much time, and its still got me Chill.
Dendi in his prime was insane :3
Thanks for the video Baumi
What are the names of the background tracks played in the video?
Commenting to boost the algorithm. Great job!
Yo Baumi. I think there's a typo in tower's bounty at 1:12:30. Ain't no tower worth 900 gold
love it. thanks baumi!
Looking forward to continuing to gain base level access to the competitive scene through some of the most accessible educational content on Dota I’ve seen in a while
XBOCT is my inspiration in playing carry when i first started, he got little to no recognition vs his peers like dendi, puppey, kuroki :')
this was in my rec feed you're on the up and up
Love it boomi, can’t wait for more!
Great work bud! Just keep going!
Just want to appreciate Philipp's efforts on creating this 😌
AMAZING VIDEO PAL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
My brother, who could be a pro if he had a team, always said Ana has 1 ability that is legues better than any other carry players, he always knows where to farm. If you look at Ana showing up to team fights you will see that he was always farming nearby before.
18:05 BASED dota 2 lore recordings
Those classic old dota clips are the sacred scriptures of dotaology
Hmmm, how about adding a brief Hero-Lore summary in this series?
Hi there I've been watching this channel since the first video. I love your style of vids and I was wondering if you could do TA next?
In the early TIs he might not be that good but damn in the pubs and mid rank bracket he was really fun😊
Fantastic Series, keep it going 💖💖💖💖
Video series is great!
Juggs is my main buddy and I'm happy he got a vid early in the series lol.