Was Naga the greatest because she was so contested, or was she so contested because she was the greatest? To this question, she replied thus: "Throughout the patches and map changes, I alone am the one who farms 3 jungle camps and 2 waves at the same time."
Friendly reminder that in the early days Omni could use his magic immunity on enemies so you could song in and then have Omni "wake up" a key target and then you can punch them down wile the song kept the rest of the enemy team asleep.
@@ravensnflies8167 in 1k bracket maybe. The higher you go the better she is. She's all about item timings and split pushing. Good naga have 6 slots and sieging high ground in 25-30 minutes. Atleast in 6k thats what naga specialist do.
she needs her ensnare so bad because most of the time she just keeps chasing heroes without doing much damage, i always get bloodthorn and basher on her just to even lockdown supports that keep running away
@@kyrlchristianboni5263 well i guess you're right considering other carries like Spectre, TW and Alche, i guess i was thinking of crit beasts that just shred heroes like CK, PA, and WK
Great video as always. It should be mentioned that one of the reasons she was great as a support before 7.00 is that gem of true sight worked on her illusions, so she could control the map in an oppressive way while also playing in safe positions.
I started playing Dota around two years ago but I always crafted my own builds and roles spamming stuff like Dark seer 4 and Venomancer counter-jungle but the one I had the most fun with was Naga Siren support and I got insulted a lot from the moment I picked her! Never knew she had an epoch where support was her main role, it always made sense to me with her kit and shard, I specially enjoy stacking 2 camps at the same time while staying in lane and denying enemy runes, she's the most fun I've had in Dota 2 😊
This is exactly how I felt when I would play support Alchemist. Like, hear me out guys, I focus on using concoction and acid spray to zone the enemies and ult for Regen so I don't need items to spam abilities. Then just hit.creeps later to catch up if game goes late. Makes a lot more sense then you'd think.
oh my GOD, I didn't notice this was a baumi video until wayyyy into the video. So great to see this channel creep its way into my recommended im binging the latest videos.
it's actually an interesting hero competitive-wise, it has always been meta at TI, went through a lot of changes, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it next
She is the best hero. Best looking, best concept, was the only true hyper carry in dota history for a period with radiance and before all the nerfs. She was a best. She is just awesome.
Baumi in the techies’ videos: aiu’s techies carried EG to victory on TI5 Baumi in naga’s video: aui’s naga carried EG to victory on TI5 I’m starting to sense a pattern in this videos…
2012 naga looked so broken, i cant believe what im seeing. she literally have a stronger PHANTASM on her 1st skill an arguably comparable SAVAGE ROAR for a 2nd Skill, A wet version of THUNDERCLAP on 3rd skill, AND SONG OF THE SIREN. OH MY FICKING GOD
Hi Baumi, it would be nice to mention the most contested hero as well in this circumstance at 0:44 and 1:17:23. In general, if something is in the top 3, it would be an interesting addition to mention the position(s) above it. E.g. at 1:17:31
The Zoo meta of TI11 was crushing as a Secret fan... watching them make it all the way to the finals just to be completely destroyed but Naga and Brood in a devastatingly one sided sweep
Baumi, I don't know if you already have your heroes planned for the rest of your series, but as a follower of your regular youtube channel and a fellow centaur warrunner fan, would love to see a video on the big boi
Very small nitpick for the end: make the credits not overlap with the webcam. I don't know how impactful is but it is a bit weird to see more of the webcam after all the credits have rolled out, lol
I remember a time where a first pick Naga was the most terrifying thing. Do you counter pick a Naga carry or treat it as a support? It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
Naga was one of the best dealing with old techies. Illus safely cleared green and red mines. Plus classic heart build allowed break bases mined to max.
It's a bit unfortunate Meracle was not mentioned at all for changing the way Naga is played inbetween TI3 and TI4. Aui himself called it "pre-meracle" naga and "post-meracle" naga.
All videos are kinda like that. A lot happens in-between one TI and another but with how long this videos take to make it's unrealistic to show everything although like you I would like to see more. Some Naga combo plays were insane!
My fav hero in dota 1 and eventually dota 2. I never played dota when naga was out of meta and played when she was. The satisfaction of controlling multiple illusions across the map and farming crazy and satisfying 3rd skill ability spam, reliable escape tool she was built for my kind of gameplay.
A very important detail of early ti naga is the pairing with AA. AA cold embrace was an aoe spell that buffed allied controled units with on hit damage for a few attacks. It wasnt uncommon to cast it on 5 and smoke dank the offlanereven so if the smoke break naga splits and all illusions can get buffed. That melted heroes, that's why cold had a attack speed de buff because of how it was abused. I believe broodlings could also abuse it. Naga as visage a unstoppable lane, net cold feet. Cold embrace the naga army and blow someone up with soul assumptions. Even as a support this was picked a lot to cheese an enemy aggressive triplane.
im grandmaster lvl 25 naga siren, she has been my fav hero since the old rtz and miracle (the asian guy) naga siren with radiance mid with aquila. Naga for me is the most rewarding hero because it has a lot of dota mechanics packed in it.. the possibilities are endless. I really have felt sad having to see my hero get nerfed in every aspect constantly. Atleast I would be happier if valve decides to release us a Naga arcana (i always voted for naga siren arcana on ti bp pls help)
Only old dota 1 players will know how naga siren was so strong in olden days her third skill was passive critical can kill any hero so easily 😢😢i miss those days
"Aui's greedy playstyle was a huge factor in earning Evil Geniuses their TI victory" Then they proceed to kick him out of the team right after and look what happened to EG after lol
i think its really silly how people went vanguard and linkens on her in 2012. Like what is the linkens for? Rubick Q? You also have ways to disjoint spells, very defensive ult and you build stats to get more tanky
I'm curious... do we actually know the actual process of patches/changes that Dota 2 goes through? Asking because I personally find it curious when Baumi uses sentences like "...until Valve decided to nerf her again." I didn't give it much thought, but for some reason I was under the (maybe wrong) assumption that the game balance changes could still be using a process similar to the original, with a single guy (like Icefrog) deciding or debating stuff with people on the forums and what not; instead of a Valve dedicated-balance team. Do we actually KNOW the current process and size of the possible team of people working on these balance changes?
Dota 2's larger audience lead to much worse feedback, Icefrog started this way for Dota 2 as well but with tens of thousands of players screaming at him for every change or thing that stayed the same he closed off entirely. I heard the chinese audience still has some insight as their forums are much more strictly controlled and thus less hateful, but I think its a black box now like most company's balance plans/teams.
On his stream I've heard Baumi talk about a conspiracy theory of balance changes switching from Icefrog balance decisions to a committee balance changes based on a change in feel/design philosophy of the balance changes. I'm not sure how serious he was about that and it was definitely a goofy stream rant not a serious and carefully researched opinion like we see in these videos.
Was Naga the greatest because she was so contested, or was she so contested because she was the greatest? To this question, she replied thus: "Throughout the patches and map changes, I alone am the one who farms 3 jungle camps and 2 waves at the same time."
Not even close to march tinker who could farm 3 lanes and 5 camps all will not showing on the map. Even your team mates hated you
@@TherealBDL honestly tinker without march could still farm the entire jungle with strength blink and shiva
@@TherealBDLOne haunt or thunderGod's wrath and tinker is dead. Naga, on the other hand....
@@TherealBDLo was fairly new to dota and had no idea those bugs were a hero ability. I learned that day to kill a tinker anytime you spot it.
Nah, i'd farm
Friendly reminder that in the early days Omni could use his magic immunity on enemies so you could song in and then have Omni "wake up" a key target and then you can punch them down wile the song kept the rest of the enemy team asleep.
ah yes repel
You, sir, just triggered my PTSD!
Also, I remember the song radius was fixed in place and she had crit instead of riptide.
I totally forgot about that. It's really coming back vividly right now. Crazy. The short buff to your enemies only to bring them down.
@@BertieJasokiethats from dota 1
Can be the most underwhelming or most overwhelming hero in your game with no in between
AA mains know shes more of a liability than an asset...
@@ravensnflies8167 in 1k bracket maybe. The higher you go the better she is. She's all about item timings and split pushing. Good naga have 6 slots and sieging high ground in 25-30 minutes. Atleast in 6k thats what naga specialist do.
she needs her ensnare so bad because most of the time she just keeps chasing heroes without doing much damage, i always get bloodthorn and basher on her just to even lockdown supports that keep running away
@@unprovoked99 that's most carries actually. They need their stuns or disables or even dagger to get on top of the other heroes
@@kyrlchristianboni5263 well i guess you're right considering other carries like Spectre, TW and Alche, i guess i was thinking of crit beasts that just shred heroes like CK, PA, and WK
Thanks! Easily the best Dota 2 content on RUclips. Keep it coming fellas!
Legend said that she still split pushed till this day.
Great video as always.
It should be mentioned that one of the reasons she was great as a support before 7.00 is that gem of true sight worked on her illusions, so she could control the map in an oppressive way while also playing in safe positions.
I started playing Dota around two years ago but I always crafted my own builds and roles spamming stuff like Dark seer 4 and Venomancer counter-jungle but the one I had the most fun with was Naga Siren support and I got insulted a lot from the moment I picked her! Never knew she had an epoch where support was her main role, it always made sense to me with her kit and shard, I specially enjoy stacking 2 camps at the same time while staying in lane and denying enemy runes, she's the most fun I've had in Dota 2 😊
Watch Alliance's run through ti3, it's amazing
This is exactly how I felt when I would play support Alchemist. Like, hear me out guys, I focus on using concoction and acid spray to zone the enemies and ult for Regen so I don't need items to spam abilities. Then just hit.creeps later to catch up if game goes late. Makes a lot more sense then you'd think.
Today years old when I learned her actual name, Slithice, which is low key a sick name
Clearly you haven't played Warcraft Dota.
Kiddo, you are too young
bro your vids are actually the best Dota 2 content out there. Don't ever stop my man you're the best
THE BEST DOTA 2 CONTENT EVER MADE THANKS ALOT :3
oh my GOD, I didn't notice this was a baumi video until wayyyy into the video. So great to see this channel creep its way into my recommended im binging the latest videos.
What a great video, extremely entertaining and well written
can't wait for the story of chen....eventually
Story of Spectre and her booba sets😊😊😊😊
See you in 30 years brother
it's actually an interesting hero competitive-wise, it has always been meta at TI, went through a lot of changes, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it next
There are only going to be a small number more of these, can't remember how many, but it was announced I think at the end of the earthshaker video
Jackie Chen, one of the few heroes i never played lmao
"They storm up the river, patience from Zhou...."
Great vid! Completely agree with the wrap up 😅
She is the best hero. Best looking, best concept, was the only true hyper carry in dota history for a period with radiance and before all the nerfs. She was a best. She is just awesome.
These videos make my month every time.
I unthumbsed to thumbs up again upon your request. Appreciate the work.
Great content!🎉
I just love to see your videos, I hope that you can continue with this work. Thank you for sharing this passion for the game.
Excellent work as usual. Keep the good time rolling. Really appreciate the videos and effort.
Leeeesss goooo 1 hour video for a game ive played a total of 5 hours in the last 5 years
great video I was gladly surprised that you made it Baumi thank you for this.
Great content
Baumi in the techies’ videos: aiu’s techies carried EG to victory on TI5
Baumi in naga’s video: aui’s naga carried EG to victory on TI5
I’m starting to sense a pattern in this videos…
Me waiting for the Storm Spirit video
What a nice video, need the terrorblade one!
Great Job ! 👍
Absolutely fantastic as always
this video series are so fking good!. ty
THESE VIDS ARE GREAT
2012 naga looked so broken, i cant believe what im seeing.
she literally have a stronger PHANTASM on her 1st skill
an arguably comparable SAVAGE ROAR for a 2nd Skill,
A wet version of THUNDERCLAP on 3rd skill,
AND
SONG OF THE SIREN.
OH MY FICKING GOD
2012 naga can wet thundarclap me any day
Great series, ty for content
Hi Baumi, it would be nice to mention the most contested hero as well in this circumstance at 0:44 and 1:17:23.
In general, if something is in the top 3, it would be an interesting addition to mention the position(s) above it. E.g. at 1:17:31
Love the everything everywhere all at once quote
Hope you also cover the dota 1 history of the hero topic. but great video as always!
The Zoo meta of TI11 was crushing as a Secret fan... watching them make it all the way to the finals just to be completely destroyed but Naga and Brood in a devastatingly one sided sweep
It's funny because replacingher 45/120 crit with Riptide was an attempt to nerf her. Turns out she got stronger.
I remember in dota 1 she has crit passive skill
Love these videos...i wish you do an iconic hero like invoker or rubick, or even arc warden.
Baumi, I don't know if you already have your heroes planned for the rest of your series, but as a follower of your regular youtube channel and a fellow centaur warrunner fan, would love to see a video on the big boi
Very small nitpick for the end: make the credits not overlap with the webcam. I don't know how impactful is but it is a bit weird to see more of the webcam after all the credits have rolled out, lol
I liked this
I wait all the time for LC
TRESDIN in my hearth
Surprised the meteor hammer interaction was not mentioned that was nagas most prominent patch imo
I remember a time where a first pick Naga was the most terrifying thing. Do you counter pick a Naga carry or treat it as a support? It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
The beginning was like "Naga siren was was was was". Man she still IS.
Naga was one of the best dealing with old techies. Illus safely cleared green and red mines. Plus classic heart build allowed break bases mined to max.
It's a bit unfortunate Meracle was not mentioned at all for changing the way Naga is played inbetween TI3 and TI4. Aui himself called it "pre-meracle" naga and "post-meracle" naga.
All videos are kinda like that. A lot happens in-between one TI and another but with how long this videos take to make it's unrealistic to show everything although like you I would like to see more. Some Naga combo plays were insane!
My fav hero in dota 1 and eventually dota 2. I never played dota when naga was out of meta and played when she was. The satisfaction of controlling multiple illusions across the map and farming crazy and satisfying 3rd skill ability spam, reliable escape tool she was built for my kind of gameplay.
i love these videos
A very important detail of early ti naga is the pairing with AA.
AA cold embrace was an aoe spell that buffed allied controled units with on hit damage for a few attacks. It wasnt uncommon to cast it on 5 and smoke dank the offlanereven so if the smoke break naga splits and all illusions can get buffed. That melted heroes, that's why cold had a attack speed de buff because of how it was abused. I believe broodlings could also abuse it.
Naga as visage a unstoppable lane, net cold feet. Cold embrace the naga army and blow someone up with soul assumptions.
Even as a support this was picked a lot to cheese an enemy aggressive triplane.
Finally, something good to watch
Wich item is under the Tranquill boots in Kotl's inventory at 9:30 ?
gem
can’t wait to see Invoker story
Naga Siren video was so amazing
I can't believe how much strong she was when she released
Old Purge clip brings me back 😭what a time to play DotA.
Yeeeeellow everybody
Reminder of old chilling touch and naga interaction. Making naga AA+¹ a level 1 kill lane no one could even be in Los.
How much did she win? The winning metric in the shaker video was exciting
yeah he should implement it for the next videos.
Im from a state in india called nagaland and we are called nagas. She has been my fav since day 1 during the dota days
*Meanwhile my Naga Siren in 3k matches: Uses Song of the siren after ally rp/blackhole 3 men & doesn't stop the song for the whole duration.
The first hero I truly spammed. Naga Siren. What a blast it was!
I hope I will come back to dota sooner than later 😢
"God does not have Favorites"
Naga siren 3.22 seconds after implemented : "The great disabler comes."
Thumbs up and comment contribution. Thanks OP.
I want to see a video on Phantom Lancer!
im grandmaster lvl 25 naga siren, she has been my fav hero since the old rtz and miracle (the asian guy) naga siren with radiance mid with aquila. Naga for me is the most rewarding hero because it has a lot of dota mechanics packed in it.. the possibilities are endless. I really have felt sad having to see my hero get nerfed in every aspect constantly. Atleast I would be happier if valve decides to release us a Naga arcana (i always voted for naga siren arcana on ti bp pls help)
Naga player here, BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS.
Dang, that punk rock finish was freaking amazing XD
Every nerf Naga receives puts a smile on my face
Every time a nerfed naga sings, an angel gets their wings
Thanks for the good video and i think from what u say she gets nerfed a lot but buff to stats and talant tree so absolutely 2012 naga will be strong
Only old dota 1 players will know how naga siren was so strong in olden days her third skill was passive critical can kill any hero so easily 😢😢i miss those days
Baumi, well done man.
Is the voice of the story teller baumi?
"Aui's greedy playstyle was a huge factor in earning Evil Geniuses their TI victory"
Then they proceed to kick him out of the team right after and look what happened to EG after lol
What a great Hero, can recommend!
can’t wait for Crystal Maiden vid 😭😭😭
I've never played DOTA - only Heroes of the Storm. But this character has me curious.
giving a like because the youtuber told me to undermines the point of the like button
facing naga as an enemy, either you'll have an easy game, or a hard ass 50 minute game
that you will lose XD
@@soloamir1801yeah... even bad naga in the late game hit like a truck 😂
Naga Siren 😍😍
i think its really silly how people went vanguard and linkens on her in 2012. Like what is the linkens for? Rubick Q? You also have ways to disjoint spells, very defensive ult and you build stats to get more tanky
Make one for Earth spirit!
I hope he decides to make a SOULKEEPER VIDEO.
I wanna know how good ILLIDAN is
FUN FACT: Grubby was the voice actor for dota1 naga.
I loved playing naga but I suck at farming and micro
Love your videos, but was that AI art in the lore clips? Looked very strange
The Kobold at the Latest Birmingham tournament was Flexing the Chalice ...and trolling Naga😂
Can’t agree more
I hope for warlock story someday.
Imagine the next Story is Huskar: The Hero that jumped on everything 😂😂
aka the philippine hero
What are the top 3 most contested heroes of all time in competitive play?
Having your entire teams damage stopped during a bad Ult is a Dota sin unforgivable.
That's why this hero isn't good in chaotic pubs or low rank.
Commenting for the interaction algorithm
No school like the old school.
in Dota 1, shes the most overpowered hero with her crit illusion
which one is zain and which one is cody?
I'm curious... do we actually know the actual process of patches/changes that Dota 2 goes through? Asking because I personally find it curious when Baumi uses sentences like "...until Valve decided to nerf her again." I didn't give it much thought, but for some reason I was under the (maybe wrong) assumption that the game balance changes could still be using a process similar to the original, with a single guy (like Icefrog) deciding or debating stuff with people on the forums and what not; instead of a Valve dedicated-balance team. Do we actually KNOW the current process and size of the possible team of people working on these balance changes?
Dota 2's larger audience lead to much worse feedback, Icefrog started this way for Dota 2 as well but with tens of thousands of players screaming at him for every change or thing that stayed the same he closed off entirely. I heard the chinese audience still has some insight as their forums are much more strictly controlled and thus less hateful, but I think its a black box now like most company's balance plans/teams.
@@ACEYGAMES Oh, I see. Thanks for the info!
On his stream I've heard Baumi talk about a conspiracy theory of balance changes switching from Icefrog balance decisions to a committee balance changes based on a change in feel/design philosophy of the balance changes.
I'm not sure how serious he was about that and it was definitely a goofy stream rant not a serious and carefully researched opinion like we see in these videos.
Definitely the best illusion carry
Lycan next please!!!!
I used to play this hero but i only knew how to farm and fighting with this hero i just struggle idk when she is strong
you should cover pangolier, the most nerfed hero in dota history XD
Problem is pangolier was so recently released that there’s not much to talk about
Next story of a tinker plsss
Cool