This stuff is a nightmare! Maybe not for a test drive while trying to become an influencer but for a regular trucker it is a constant source of frustration
I can tell you from experience... That it makes your life more dangerous on the road! Because the companies also use them to brake the truck and a lot of times the truck breaks at a bridge or a low hanging sign Slamming on the brakes- That is so dangerous and should be outlawed!
@@KenworthofRichfield Many and I have made complaints to breakdown and they send me to a terminal shop and it works for a week or so and back to the same ole same ole.
I totally agree as I’m writing this my T680 gives me lot of codes adaptive cruise control fault, transmission fault Pcc engine fault it’s ridiculous, have been in almost 10 dealers n non one fix it better
I cannot comment on Paccar’s system since I’ve never driven one with that system. I will say though that I hate it in the freightliners. It’s constantly locking onto road signs at night and slamming the brakes.
Be glad it's not an International. My truck in cruise never stays at the target speed. If I set it at 65, it either goes 62 up the tiniest upgrade or randomly jumps to 68 when another truck is trying to pass. I have to manually intervene constantly. Freightliner's cruise is at least smart.
I'm sure you have incentive to sugarcoat it. In my opinion the wingman system from Bendix is dangerous and highly annoying. If you need a radar to keep you from rear ending cars on the freeway you should not be driving a truck.
This is, itself, a dangerous distraction and averts an experienced driver’s attention from the way he/she know they have to do the job. It is extremely important to be in control of the situations as you best determine them on the road! That can’t be understated. Neither automatic transmissions, nor this “adaptive” system allow for that. These actually works against you! The blind-side sensor too! Why??, if you have already determined that you can change lanes to the right, and already committed to it, does that need to sense NOTHING and beep to make you DANGEROUSLY SECOND-GUESS YOURSELF. This system (and automatic transmissions) only give you more to worry about, more downtime with less repair options, less control, they are FATIGUING, and they should be scrapped. Bad ideas are problematic when they break, all for things YOU SHOULD BE DOING ON YOUR OWN FOR OPTIMAL SAFETY. What’s wrong with a hood mirror? Why can’t you choose your RPMs for the conditions? Why let this system disrupt your smooth driving when you are simply using your space and keeping your speed? We don’t need this. Totally hate it. Additionally, I will never drive anymore automatic trucks of any kind. 10/10 automatic transmissions had major problems (in my experience), are needlessly expensive, work-prohibitive, unnecessary and complicated junk. All have been problems, compared to manual, of which (outside of one total failure at 1,300,000 miles), I’ve never had any major issue, and they’ve saved me from getting stuck, be it from a bad starter, ice or mud. You can make superior, smoother, calculated moves, provided your foot doesn’t totally slip off the clutch pedal.
We could not agree with you more. We had a 2010 Kenworth that we ran all the way until last month. We just bought a 2019 Peterbilt 579 and it has this stupid system on it and it's an automatic. My husband in his 30 years of driving has never driven an automatic. He said it is absolutely horrible and he feels like he doesn't have the kind of control over the truck that he is used to and needs. Just because of the automatic transmission we set up our payments so we could have it paid off in 3 years which is when the warranty expires. He already can't wait to get rid of it. Now this navigation thing won't allow him to put on his oversized signs. It's not possible. It doesn't stop beeping. We so badly want to find out how to disable that whole system altogether. We had to order an owner's manual because it didn't come with one. We've only had the truck about a week. She is majorly regretting the automatic transmission.
@@jenniferwasko4540 I’m so sorry. The one I was referring to was the same make and model of truck, with the Paccar, dealer-specific engine. I asked for any way to remove the adaptive cruise sensors, delete them, anything. All dealers refused to, saying it would not only be a liability for them to do, but they have no official means to do it and it would be very difficult. They will not respect the wishes of the registered owner or accept their business in that regard. You may be able to do it only through some under-the-radar arrangement with a really competent Paccar mechanic, which I found was a possibility... but ultimately we sold the truck during the national used truck shortage at a high price, brushed our hands off of it and moved on. We went back to a 1993 379 for a time which was a real relief after that experience for a time, but ultimately couldn’t win well enough with that choice in the current fuel situation, and so have landed on a 2018 579 glider kit which is maybe the best situation we could have at the moment. But yeah, for me automatic; NEVER again, and adaptive cruise (which they tried to tell me all trucks will be required to have beyond a certain year) NEVER again. At least, not without option to disable.
Try pulling a loaded tank more offen when in city traffic the transmission doesn't know what gear to go into, when the surge hits it places you back in the lower gear.
Saw the title of this video and actually foolishly expected an open minded, objective review. Little did I know it's a truck salesman, trying to sell trucks and the current piece of shit Bendix equipment, offered on modern trucks. As somebody who actually drives trucks for a living. Believe me when I tell you, there's a world of difference between a 15 minute test drive, and driving 11 hours a day as I do most days. Every time some jackass 4 wheeler (car) cuts me off by about 5 feet in front of me to catch their last exit - beep beep beep, bendix brakes hard. Every time somebody on a Sunday drive starts lolligagging, erratically dropping their speed by 10 mph in front of me for no reason - beep beep beep. Every time I get brake checked, because I'm in a slow moving truck that somebody got stuck behind for a minute, couldn't figure out how to get around me, and so I'm apparently the a-hole who's holding them up and ruining their day, so as soon as they are able to pass me they make damn sure to cut me off as close as possible and slam on their brakes to apparently repay the favor of slowing them down (brake check) - beep beep beep, bendix slams the brakes hard, everything in the truck not tied down comes forward flying at me. One of my favorites is when there's a sudden sharp curve ahead that bendix fails to identify, but does pick up on the large blunt fixed object directly ahead of where you are, that if not for the curve, you'd be driving right straight head on at - ready for it? - beep beep beep, slam on the brakes. How about the lane departure warning? Every time you enter a construction zone with a lane closed off by cones, that some overzealous worker got carried away, coned off the lane and 1/3 of the good travel lane by sticking the cones way too far over. Now me in the big wide truck has to straddle the lane and shoulder because that's the only way I fit. But does bendix know or recognize what's going on? Of course not. Only that I'm out of the lane - duh duh duh, duh duh duh, duh duh duh. Nonstop until I can either get back in the lane or out of the construction zone. Such a neat, driver friendly system Bendix is. Annoys the shit out of the driver all day, until the driver does what Bendix wants it to. But hey, I guess so long as it is making us all "safer" right? 😉. It's really not a bad idea at all. It just needs much further refinement. I've been driving since 08, and been in trucks with this crap in them since 14. Seven years now of beep beep beep all day long, and I'm still damn nearly postal, as a result. The maddening thing about it is that. My own personal car has some very similar equipment, I've been in other cars with other similar equipment. And you know what? They all work fantastically, without annoying the ever loving shit out of the driver!! That's what I really don't get...is that it's been proven to me before that this kind of equipment can be made to work in a not so persistently annoying fashion. So where does it say that we truck drivers, who spend much more time on average, driving every day than a normal car commuter, have to have loud beeping, annoying, intrusive safety technology? Do we not deserve comfort and peace of mind too? Does the world really hate truck drivers that darn much, that not only do other commuters road rage on us all day long, but even truck manufacturers and companies tasked with making safety equipment for trucks, have to stick it to us like this, by seeing to it that we can never drive a truck in comfort with peace of mind, ever again?!?! Until bendix starts to get serious and improve their equipment...just say no to bendix crap!! #fuckbendix
I agree with most of what you said except some parts. For example, the truck SHOULD brake if someone brake checks shouldn’t it? Or would you rather it not do that, you go the same speed, and run into it? But for the most part I don’t like that Bendix thing either.
@@jaysant6958 @Anttjuan nah if someone brake checks you, the attentive DRIVER of the truck should brake, not the truck itself. I get that maybe if you're new to the industry, maybe you've never known anything but the current generation of trucks with the current technologies, but used to be trucks with none of these automated safety features on them. I've been driving trucks for almost 15 years. Zero accidents. *knock on wood*. I think the only reason they keep coming up with vehicles (not just trucks) with all these lane departure warning systems, automatic braking, blind spot monitoring, etc. Is because of the distracted driving epidemic. So long as there's still drivers of any vehicles that can't just drive and focus on that above all else, we're gonna continue to see more and more "safety features" that continually take more and more vehicle control out of our hands. Since that's who this technology is designed to save other drivers and pedestrians from, distracted drivers.
It's programmed on the computer, only a technician with the program for your truck can bypass it. There are some knowledgeable guys in California. It doesn't have to be at the dealer but they may also be able to cancel it out as well.
I have this on my company truck and it’s a pain in the ass because of how they have it setup. It’ll occasionally slam on brakes because of overpasses or sign shadows and the worst part is that it’ll think a car on the off ramp is still in front of me. But I do love the following distance counter but that’s about it
Kenworth of Richfield it happens a lot less now since the Lane Departure system on it was fix a month ago and I’ve started taking extra precautions, a lot more than normal, to avoid it getting mad at me
I like the info I get from the radar, how far away the car in front of me is and how fast it’s going. I HATE that it constantly beeps it doesn’t need to beep it could just put a light on the dash or something.
@@KenworthofRichfield being that it automatically adjust following distance based on speed meaning 3 seconds at 50 is closer than 3 seconds at 70. The beep being turned off for the 1 second warning below say 45. 2 beeps from there to 65. I agree on the info from the radar other than following distance would be neat to see their speed and actual distance.
@@KenworthofRichfield Volvo's system actually mutes the radio and when it detects an imminent collision alerts over the truck speakers at murderously loud volume.
I’m driving a rental and the radar beeping is working but the cruise doesn’t. The maintenance lady and I had words about this. The truck was parked for 3 days yet they didn’t fix the cruise. She got pissed because I sent a text talking about how she’s so tough on safety. Yet they would not fix the cruise control.
I've only had the system for less than a week and I'm to the point of quitting thanks to this system. I've had 3 instances that I've experienced that could have caused bad accidents. 2 instances included trash on the road. At 65mph no traffic ahead of me, the truck kicked out of cruise, slammed on the brakes and engaged the Jake brake. The third instance was when a car was pulled out just a little too far from a driveway, not in the lane but on the edge, again the truck slammed on the brakes and took me from 45mph to 20 in a big hurry. Next is the coasting. While the truck is climbing a hill at the crest, while it's still climbing to 65mph it will cut the power and engage the jakes. The cruise was set at 65mph, then at 60mph it cut the power and jaked down to 55mph then applied power again. Is I helping or hurting us in the real world of driving? Yes!! It has almost had me in 3 accidents and the week isn't over.
This is one of those areas that where people take things too far. They are driver aids....not driver replacements. They need to be used to assist....not to replace. I agree with you in on it from this perspective.
@@KenworthofRichfield I train new drivers. And its difficult to get some of them to think for themselves and not rely heavily on the adaptive cruise system. Driving a truck is more mentally taxing than most people realize.
On my 680 the thing I like the cruise for most is heavy merge areas. When you need to merge on or off the highway and have to spend longer bits of time checking mirrors. If someone cuts you off or panics in front of you or decelerates without braking while you are using the mirror, that beep can bring your eyes back front in time to save yourself.
Not complaining just speaking the truth. An ABS system doesn't have any physical way to take control of your braking system until you apply the brakes as a driver. The Bendix does, read the manual and you will remove the sugar coating from your eyes. don't just watch the videos to learn and understand it. This is dangerous in combination heavy haul vehicles.
The system works ok in dry weather but when it get ugly and the temp goes down it doesn't work as it should it gets moisture behind it and starts going into faults and lites up the dashboard
In my day cab 2019 680, I like the information it gives me, however in heavy city traffic the beeping drove me crazy, my shop turned the beeping off which is greater sanity for me, also I noticed the adaptive cruise tends to have me less aware of what’s going on around me, when the beeping went away I’m back to being more aware of my surroundings like the last 29 years. My engine is set on efficiency mode which is dead on the hills, if you got sizeable hills put it on the performance mode. Fuel mileage is up nicely. I still don’t care for the automatic trans, it leaves me hanging on hard turning uphill pullouts: example starts pulling out in 2nd it went to shift and it stopped went to 2nd again it stopped it got 3rd and it stopped a little bit before it got 4th. The scary part is I’m a sitting duck on a hill on a 55mph road which is a 2 lane. I had no problem like that with my manual and I flat shift been doing that for all my years till now
I’m not gonna lie when I was in training my trainer had the adaptive cruise control and it made driving easy since the truck did most of the work and I wasn’t easily fatigued BUT once I got my own truck that didn’t have adaptive cruise control I learned right away that I depended too much on a system to drive for me because my awareness was numb. Since I’ve driven for months without it I can say I’m a much better driver without relying on a computer system. The system is fine I still welcome it but my advice is if you’re new get a feel for the truck so you’re aware of how your trick handles in case the system goes down and you need manual operation in whatever condition you’re in.
I had a rental cascadia while my truck was in for diff pump... It had this installed, and I loved it. My next ride will absolutely have it. The only issue I had was with passing.. the system would wait like a full second before it hit the gas, so I found it was better to disable cruse, start the pass, then reengage the cruse. You do this at the wheel, so it was great.
I like my T 880. It is still a truck. Manual trans. Rear ends are a little tall 3:36 so when running 55 in Ohio pulling oversize. Needs a gear for 55. 10speed 55mph is 1100 rpm in tenth. Sweet spot is 12,1300 rpm. Aero dinamics Don't work so well for a 60000 lb 20 ft seacan on a 40 ft triaxle. I use Cruse control for one thing. High idle but not that often. Instead of coasting in cruise full Jake's should be automacicly on at 5 mph over set speed. Stage 1at 1mph over Stage 2 at 3 mph over Stage 3 at 5 mph over. I had that in a 98 ihc red top n14. 6.5 lifetime avg. My T880 gets around 6.2. avg. But I've only put 26000 miles on it since new in March. (Semi local Drayage work). My concerns about active cruise control is ghosts and 'snow load' jabbing the brakes on black ice. I've never used active "smart" truck. I like a dumb truck that does what I need. No questions. And yes I do miss a rotary phone rain on a tin roof and Johnny Carson.
Carson was the best....I agree. ...partially because I play drums also (as did he). THere are a number of different settings that can be changed to get things setup right for what you do.
I really hate that mitigation system it has nearly put me in a spin out several times last year driving inner city Denver, another gripe I have for the t680 is why doesn't the engine brake work below 9th gear? I have to drive Loveland pass with a loaded tanker of fuel what is up with the stupid Jake brake? And why doesn't the truck hold my cruise control setting of 65 mph? The stupid thing drops clear down to 55 mph before it powers up again I find it's better just to leave the cruise off...
What are my experiences? I start following someone doing the speed limit. They pass someone doing 5 less than the speed limit. My truck now locks on and wants to do 5 less than the speed limit. I have to reset and set constantly. I might as well just have regular cruise control. After a few months the ACC went out. Dealership says it needs a new sensor that costs lots of $$$ and aren't available right now anyway. My experience- it sucks.
Syed Anwar I buy new t680,2021 I put moose bumpers about 7 months ago the thing give me problems when snow or rain my truck cruise stopped working and lot of lights on in the dash three fours times I take the dealership but same problem please tell me what I can do. Thanks
I have a 2016 T680 this system has been nothing but trouble trying to find somewhere that can delete it as soon as it gets wet it defaults freezing up is also a huge issue just want it gone
Today experienced brakes applying hard brakes in rain,snow and ice at 32 Fahrenheit,in the night. Scared the shit out of me.It just went nuts keep applying collision warning and braking. But I noticed that the warning comes up when going beyond 55,or 60mph.
We just bought a Peterbilt 579. It's a 2019. It has this lane mitigation system. It does not allow him to put on his oversized signs and that's all he hauls is oversized. We need to figure out how to disable this crap that we don't want or need. He's not allowed to cut holes in the oversized signs to accommodate this system Does anyone know how to disable it all together? We just had to order an owner's manual because it didn't come with one
I drive a 579 peterbilt and it has this cruise control system and I hate it when you're using it under a load and cars start jumping in front of you all it does is push you back and yes your right it'll slow down so smoothly that you don't even realize it until you start noticing that other trucks are passing you quickly that's when you look down at your gauges and notice your doing 60 on a 75 mph highway and the worst experience I had was while I was switching lanes a car jumped in the lane I was on cause he was ramping on and so I let off my throttle to try to give him some room and at the same time switch lanes I couldn't believe it as soon as I let off and started to switch the cruise control system my my truck hard brake while I was switching lanes now that was crazy so I would like to know how can I deactivate this system so I can have control of the distance there should be in between my truck and car in front of me and still be able to use cruise control????
There's no real way to disable it unfortunately. In this, the next best thing is to just hit cancel for a few seconds, take control, then hit resume and you'll be right back to where you were.
Yeah, I have a question about my adaptive cruise radar fault keep popping up on the instrument panel. And I get a code one. I have a bendix system on a 2019 peterbilt. Short nose. At any given unpredictable unpredictable time the code fault will kick on . It happens on clear sunny days to bad to mild weather and even at night time driving as well. I for the most part barely use the cruise control. I check the menu on the bendix system located on the windshield and everything checks out ok. I also have near my right side front windshield attached bendix monitor with three lights of yellow blue n red with a speaker to alert beeps from time to time. I inspect my radar panel outside of my truck below the grill and it's clean n clear of any damage or debris. So what is the deal with this ongoing message. Final note it was taken to a peterbilt dealership to fix prior to this message approx. A month ago to work on this same problem. Days later same issue arises.
I just bought a volvo 2016 670vnl the sensor inside has no power for the passenger side sensor by the steps, it doesn't let me use cruis control, I use it to manage speed as a dummy proof to doing more, I have no idea where to look for the power supply to this, could you help me..
The 2023 t880 auto trans suck. My truck has less than 43k miles on it and it has issues. When use the Jake brake it throws a error code and then it won't shift. I have to switch it to neutral and back to drive for it to reset before I had to stop, turn the truck off for it to reset. Also the check engine light is in for injector problem.
I had my brakes lock up in Austin, Tx just as I was going under a bridge scary experience. Company bought a 2019 peterbilt with the same exact radar/sensors and cruise control fault lit up right out of the gate. Don’t like it one bit(collision mitigation system).
It's a big problem is that when bugs start to cover that black square plastic radar sensor on the front of the truck, you could be driving along at 65 mph and then out of nowhere the computer will tell the truck to slam on its brakes. If you are not in the far right lane then you won't have enough time to move over to the shoulder before the truck is completely stopped in the middle of the freeway which is only a few seconds. I've heard many stories of this happening. Extremely dangerous situation. On top of that you're not allowed to. It has happened to me two times. Whistling Dixie the truck will just slam on his brakes because the radar plastic on the front has too many bugs splattered on it. Worse yet it happens in the winter time with snow and sludge. If a car pulls in front into your lane and it's too close your truck will not just tap the brakes a little bit but it will literally slam on the brakes which creates a potential accident behind you in the form of a rear end collision. Made for by Kenworth but I can say this is the most unsafe system. Get worn out and sensors stop working. Unfortunately the genius engineers that designed this stuff have no clue and designed it so that if there's a problem the truck will just slam on its brakes in the middle of the highway. The foolish designers are able to solve complex math equations and yet at the same time they lack wisdom and are dumber than rocks
I've been running this system for the last few years in my 2016 t680 ...at the very least you could give us a switch on the dashboard to be able to turn it off at will and go back to the regular system and regular Cruise...also have had several trucks where the cruise control shuts off in the rain... Still working on that one
How does it respond to motorcycles? I spent a day in an International LT with a similar system but it couldnt detect motorcycles if they were in the right groove.
Saw a video explaining how small vehicles such as motorcycles are hard for these type of system to detect. Also, when going around turns the sensor points straight out so the car you’re following around a turn may drop off the sensor and the truck will ‘resume’ cruise control and increase in speed during the turn. System isn’t fool proof I guess.
We have two trucks with the adaptive cruise, matching spec 2016 T-880s. And they are the only two that we are going to have it as while one has worked well, the other has been a nightmare. I don't know all the details as it is in our Boise location and the other truck which has ran well is at the Jerome location where I drive out of. I do know the assigned driver and the fleet manager are really not happy with the truck. The one we have has been pretty solid, so I joke that our truck was built on a Wednesday and theirs was built on payday Friday before a holiday. I've put a few thousand on the T-880 we have and honestly I think it requires you to pay more attention. Because you have to switch lanes to pass much further back than normal or the system will speed match. And starting to pass another rig almost four seconds back, tends to annoy other motorists a lot. Idaho, Wyoming and Nevada have higher speed limits so you catch those 62-64 governed trucks in a hurry even at 70. Two lanes its kind of aggravating as it beeps and throws a fit when you get close to someone to pass them, like 93 between Twin Falls ID and Wells NV, a lot of house sized RVs with no guts to pull any of the hills. I think the idea is good, but the technology needs to be a little more robust as trucks will shake anything not well built apart.
Most of what you said makes really good sense. In this, I think that the technology will get better with time. What's interesting is that we've all "driven too close" and gotten away with it for so long, that we don't realize what a good following distance is. Guilty of it myself. In the same sense, it sounds like you've done a good job adapting to it when you're driving it, which is huge. Those that don't adapt, will fail. Thanks for posting!
I drive a Kenworth with adaptive cruise and collision mitigation and while I won't deny its usefulness I will say that it is dangerous. Especially in adverse weather conditions whether it's raining or snowing or little icy out if anyone cut you off which they often do or if you're going around a curve and there was somebody slightly in front of you in the left or right lane the Collision mitigation kicked in and then locks up the brakes and then you don't have control
I'm crazy about removing that sensor from my truck, sometimes it brakes when it sees a bridge, and other times when I have cars on the sides and there is a curve, if anyone knows how to remove that shit I would appreciate it.
How do you bypass it? It's the most intrusive, stressful, horrible thing I've ever experienced in trucking. I've already been rear-ended TWICE, and that NEVER happens in trucking, especially by a car.
I don't mind the cruise radar. I often use it to read the speed and distance of the people ahead of me to know if I need to get into the lane or not. If somebody's going to be an issue. What I don't care for is the going to sleep to conserve fuel, while I'm in hills and mountains. Now I'm an international ProStar 2020 with adaptive cruise. That's what I want to ask. Just give me regular Cruise control, not adaptive. Thing falls asleep in the middle of cresting a hill, it doesn't wake up in the valley when I try to tap the gas it'll reset the speed to the current speed. So there's stupid programming but if they could fix that, then they're very helpful
Yes the peeping is the worst because I'm sorry when your driver gets irritated because it's still going off because another car gun pron you and then another and another and another a makes you just want to crash into everybody like go karts it's ridiculous and this is a very unsafe thing to put in a truck..
Alerts are way too loud to the point of being painful, volume cannot be adjusted. It may be helpful as a training tool for newbies, but I have serious reservations about its larger implications. The experienced driver has learned a certain way to be safe without such bells and dingdongs, is trained to go into 'alert mode' himself when the truck beeps- engine overheating? oil pressure loss? air line busted and dumping pressure? Causes for adrenalin to rush as these are emergency situations. Now you have an excessive amount of alerts that raise a driver's stress level that are not really cause for concern because half the response is automated... desensitizing drivers to inputs from the truck. The top safety issue in experienced drivers is complacency! This system trains a driver to be more complacent rather than in control and proactive. If you pay attention to what the automated stuff is doing, you just get pissed off why it is cutting your fuel at the bottom of a hill just because the vehicle 3 secs in front is slowing down as it climbs, you end up bogging down unnecessarily instead of staying on the fuel with the driver actually in control of the truck, changing lanes if needed. Fuel economy- with 2.5m million miles on my back, I guarandamntee you, I will outperform adaptive cruise with auto trans if you put me in a truck with a 13 speed and no beeping system. It is a matter of good driver habits, traffic anticipation and deliberate action. These nanny systems take away all of that and force a driver to be a steering wheel holder rather than a real professional.
Got a 19 389 with that bendix system on the front and it locked up the brakes because a black plastic bag flew in front of the truck luckily no one was behind me and by the way it's an autoshift transmission still has a clutch the bendix sucks and in the winter when its covered with snow it don't work any way its good in heavy fog or rain other than that it sucks we had trucks jackknife in the winter reading a bridge going uphill and if you are in a standard transmission truck and you get cutoff and the truck locks up the brakes you will tear something up if since you wont be able to push the clutch in and you dont have a eld in the truck ticking down but new drivers reley to much on tfar crap and pay less attention to traffic and there surrounding and the transmission can be programmed to shift more aggressive and the truck going in idle coasting will lower oil pressure to the engine and the camshaft and rollers wont be lubricated correctly and if you have an issue with the truck going back under power on it's own you will burn up your brakes trying to stop since your Jake's ain't working any more
The company that I'm leased to has this system on their trucks. Has an owner operator they asked if I wanted to try it out. I have been driving since 2006 with zero accidents. I told them if I start getting into accidents I will consider it, but I don't need a computer telling me how to drive. And please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's crap or anything. Seems like it would benefit some people. Just not me, not right now. Nice truck.
Makes sense Scott. In the same sense, what's difficult is that people often don't get the chance to "try" things like this. It's either an all or nothing deal. This is something that when people try it and learn how to work with it instead of against it, they usually love it. Just a though. :D
A vehicle cut in front of me and that thing locked my brakes up and twisted the steering wheel to the left causing the truck to swerve into the left lane and side swiped a car. Luckily the damage was just scrapes in the paint job but it could've been a lot worse. Took it to the shop and they said they see nothing wrong. They also checked the whole steering unit and axles even brakes and found nothing wrong. Need to find a way to turn this thing off.
In my experience in my T680, the adaptive cruise has been annoying as hell. Honestly have nothing good to say about it. I hate that it’ll randomly confuse an overpass for a vehicle and shut off. The fact that it’ll cut the throttle if a vehicle gets in front of the truck while it’s speeding up back to the set point, even if the vehicle is driving faster than you, until the sensor no longer detects the vehicle. You have to hit the pedal when climbing hills so this doesn’t happen. Most importantly, I HATE that the truck will get an adaptive cruise error, wether it’s because of rain or ice or it just feels like messing up, and I can’t clear it while driving! The truck may do it itself but unless you shut the truck off, you can’t just clear the code and use the cruise again. That’s incredibly stupid and I’ve talked to Hissong in Hilliard about reprogramming my truck just to delete it. Also, some ECU update done to my truck years ago made it so I can’t change any settings with the cruise. I’ll never drive another anything with adaptive cruise once I trade this truck in.
All in all it's not bad. It has its flaws just like all new technology. It picks up traffic signs and can and has freaked out and slammed on the brakes because of it. It has however made me more concious of my following distance. The maintaining distance with the cruise truly is so smooth you dont notice it. The biggest complaints I have are the inability for it to know what's on the edge of the road in a corner (construction barrel, etc) and the beep when I'm speeding up to pass when someone merges onto the highway and is going slower. Those could have been settings that the company put in place. I'm not sure but those made me not a huge fan of what has the potential to be very good.
I've had it flash the warning on a bridge sign or something similar, but it never activated the brakes on one of these false alarms, just turned off the cruise. Might want to have your calibration checked
@@hbomatt I believe it was company settings plus this was last year so I'm sure its had many updates and tweaks since then. I no longer drive for that company so who knows. When I do buy a new new truck it will probably have the system on it if i can set it up how i want it.
Adaptive cruise is fine until it picks up that random overhead sign on the interstate and puts the brakes on. Also, automated manuals suck at maneuvering at low speeds when loaded (backing, starting from a stop while making a turn). Too lurchy in my experience. Great for stop and go traffic, however.
One other thing about it is the Cruise control is allowed to be closer without beeping than if the driver has control. If I use cruise and get close enough to get the beeping, and I put on cruise it stops beeping at the same distance indicating the engineers trust the cruise more than they trust the driver. Having said all that I said in these two comments, I DO use cruise control constantly, I just wish the engineers were better at designing it and engaged with driver feedback so they can learn what's needed. Just like you can't legislate everything in the name of safety or equity, you can't hamper all the drivers for the mistakes of a few.
I have the same system on a Peterbilt. I dont mind having the system. The only problem I see with it. Is the system still has glitches. It reads shadows of overpasses and hits the brakes. I have had the system aligned several times.
My experience with it is sometimes truck goes on brake by itself even I don’t have any car in front of me. Or it show on my dashboard adaptative cruise fault so just don’t know what’s going on. Video is helpful thank you 🙏
Hi Barry! I know that some drivers probably will, but those drivers would otherwise be more dangerous as they'll probably set the regular cruise control. The only way around it no matter what is constant vigilance.....no matter what driving aids are involved.
Adaptive cruse if not vigilant to other vehicles entering the on ramp is a best problematic. I have adaptive cruse on my truck and you do get in a zone after an hour or less. Maybe a vehicle warning indicator coming up on your side so you can speed up or break???
My experience was always a good one with that kind of system. Only thing I didn't like..... Is I would get behind a slow driver and it works so good I didn't notice I was going so much slower lol
I hate it. I drive a 2021 t680. It hits the brakes for no reason. My guess is that the reflection or glare of overhead highway signs trigger it as well as overpasses. Not allways but when I drive under them it has slammed on the brakes. Fyi while manually driving it as well as with CC. Great video thanks
We had a truck wreck because a newer driver was driving thru snow. The driver had the cruise control on but not activated he was on the pedal. A chunk of snow blocked the radar the system freaked out and slammed on the brakes. Being a new driver he didn't know how to control the truck in a slide and wrecked.
Adaptive cruise is by far the most dangerous thing they can put into a commercial vehicle. I have a 2017 and have never once had it mitigate a collision. I have had it slam on the breaks for over pass shadows light pole shadows cars well off the exit ramp sometimes 200ft plus .... for no reason randomly slamming on the breaks for shadows and the way cars follow to close its only a matter of time before someone rear ends ya with this system. Buy the truck without it. It is a hindrance not a benefit from experience.... if I could figure out how to disable it with the cruise still working I would .... if anyone knows please help before it causes an accident
I was driving and there was a truck just waiting to pull out, wasent in my lane at all just a clean white super ten and my truck slammed on the brakes for a second and scared the shit out of me. I don’t like it and am trying to turn it off.
I am now familiar with the system. I One a 2015, and it has this avoidance system on it. In light traffic over the road and all the white empty spaces, this is a very effective system for managing fuel efficiency, and reducing the attentive load on the driver. That being said, I can absolutely not stand the system. In the wide open spaces, it’s fine, however when it is placed in heavy city traffic, such as Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago etc. this system rapidly becomes one of the absolute most audio bowl irritations in the truck. It’s constant and habitual beeping whether the cruise control is active or not is absolutely unnerving. I suspect, that the small speaker that is quite inconveniently buried up into the dash, will be having an accident and it’s very near future. The system is a sound idea. The audio warnings of the system however, should have a damn off switch for city traffic. Those are my thoughts, and my personal experiences with the system.
I hate it. I LIKE DRIVING THE TRUCK. There's nothing great about. You have to fight the truck. Very distractive. If u don't no how to drive a truck. You should not be driving it. I unplugged mine and it's a night and day on stress. No fighting the truck now.
It makes it a beginners truck. I know how to keep a safe distance. I notice you don’t have a bumper guard on the truck. If you hit a deer or even something small, the sensor up front can easily get damaged and costly to repair. In the winter, the sensor constantly gets covered with ice and snow and doesn’t work but every 30 seconds, you get the notification on your dash telling you that. That becomes an annoyance/distraction
I didn't have a problem with this till today at 300hrs when I was going 65mph On a major hwy and my truck almost came to a stop when passing an overpass. Its been 12 hours now.Im still having a headache,stiff neck/ shoulders,and lower back pain.I dont need this system in my truck Ive been driving for over 40 years never gotten a ticket. this should be good onlyfor bad drivers to help them drive better.
I have a KW T680 with it for years, I hate the system because it is not only annoying but very dangerous. It may kill you by wrongful brake in many situations.
All that system does is never allows the driver to use the cruise control because the constant influx of cars in front of the truck. And constantly beeps because if a car sees a space in front of a truck they will take it regardless of your speed or the amount of space your radar needs. It's the most stressful thing I have to deal with on the road making my blood pressure boil. And my truck being a Kenworth t680 that I OWN, Kenworth REFUSES to disable it. Never buy another one EVER........
In my experience, the adaptive cruise control is useful for heavy traffic. But I mostly not in heavy traffic, and it's following distance is so long, about 10 seconds, then it really interferes with passing. Worse than that, sometimes it applies emergency brakes because it's he's a bridge, or a speed limit sign, or sometimes nothing at all. I don't think it's safe to have an automated system that I can apply emergency brakes for no reason at all.
Absolute garbage. In 26 years i have never hated driving a new truch as i do now. Cruise control not even useable, collision warnings for no reason, truck drops 3 or 4 miles per hour at the bottom if every hill. Junk! If any designer is proud of this crap go drive one for a few days in traffic and hill country. You ruined trucking.
@@KenworthofRichfield pretty sure it won't come all the way down. As soon as there is ANY input on throttle or brake from the driver the auto brake disables.
I drive 2020 cascadia and this thing is killing me! It reads bridges and traffic signs as an obstacle then it hits the brakes by it self.... that’s stupid and dangerous! On the ❄️ road or rain this is a death sentence!!! Also just listening to that awful sound for 10 hours every day can only drive you nuts! It makes this hard job even harder and more stressful! Also the warning sign covers entire display when you need it most, in congested sections than you have to cancel that thing by pressing the button.... like 10 times till you reach the truck which you want to take over.... Anyone who drives trucks knows what I’m talking about.
I have to this system in my 2018 T680. This is the worst system ever. It will slam on the brakes if the sun is on the wrong side of the overpass. It reads the overpass as stationary object and applies the brakes also gives the very large red brake warning on the dash as it slams on the brakes. This is not a safe system. Oh and by the way I run hazmat and the last time it braked like that I almost jackknife. It happens to me sometimes two or three times a day then nothing for a few days then it is back with a vengeance. Is there a way to turn it off? I own this truck so if there is a way someone please let me know. Be safe out there driver’s.
I would have to agree also that it does make driving more dangerous as it will break without warning sometimes when there is nothing in front of you when there are no Cars sometimes a dip in a hill. I also would prefer a switch that I can turn it off and on. I have a night driver where I almost never have vehicles in front of me and all this does is create problems that don't exist already. But I am also a trainer and students are quite unsafe and like to ride up on people in which case I love this system because I don't have to be nagging them all the time they just ask what the beeping is and I tell them they are too close. But the biggest change I would like to see is that it is comfortable following at 2 seconds and I have always been told a minimum of 6 seconds under good conditions. The radar though does not sense the vehicles more than 5 Seconds Away and it only changes speed at about 2 seconds which is already two or three times closer than I want to be I actually drive about 12 seconds behind vehicles that truck could blow up in front of me and I would be able to stop without shifting my load at all. I would not put one in my own truck if I was an owner operator but I definitely would want one in any training truck for students
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This stuff is a nightmare! Maybe not for a test drive while trying to become an influencer but for a regular trucker it is a constant source of frustration
I can tell you from experience... That it makes your life more dangerous on the road! Because the companies also use them to brake the truck and a lot of times the truck breaks at a bridge or a low hanging sign Slamming on the brakes- That is so dangerous and should be outlawed!
See, this is more of a calibration issue or other issue. How many times has it happened to you directly if I may ask?
@@KenworthofRichfield Many and I have made complaints to breakdown and they send me to a terminal shop and it works for a week or so and back to the same ole same ole.
You right it makes sick
I totally agree as I’m writing this my T680 gives me lot of codes adaptive cruise control fault, transmission fault Pcc engine fault it’s ridiculous, have been in almost 10 dealers n non one fix it better
Couldn't agree more driver
I’m curious to know what you’d say about that radar after it locks up the brakes just by going under a bridge.
Keeps slamming brakes under the bridge my co driver came flying outta bunk!! How do you disconnect it???
@@truckervic1980 why wasn't your Co driver using the net?
Same happened to me.
@@hawkinsm2103 REALLY? That's what you're concerned about?
Radar is affected by objects; not shadows from bridges.
I cannot comment on Paccar’s system since I’ve never driven one with that system. I will say though that I hate it in the freightliners. It’s constantly locking onto road signs at night and slamming the brakes.
Be glad it's not an International.
My truck in cruise never stays at the target speed. If I set it at 65, it either goes 62 up the tiniest upgrade or randomly jumps to 68 when another truck is trying to pass. I have to manually intervene constantly.
Freightliner's cruise is at least smart.
I'm sure you have incentive to sugarcoat it. In my opinion the wingman system from Bendix is dangerous and highly annoying. If you need a radar to keep you from rear ending cars on the freeway you should not be driving a truck.
This is, itself, a dangerous distraction and averts an experienced driver’s attention from the way he/she know they have to do the job. It is extremely important to be in control of the situations as you best determine them on the road! That can’t be understated.
Neither automatic transmissions, nor this “adaptive” system allow for that. These actually works against you!
The blind-side sensor too!
Why??, if you have already determined that you can change lanes to the right, and already committed to it, does that need to sense NOTHING and beep to make you DANGEROUSLY SECOND-GUESS YOURSELF.
This system (and automatic transmissions) only give you more to worry about, more downtime with less repair options, less control, they are FATIGUING, and they should be scrapped. Bad ideas are problematic when they break, all for things YOU SHOULD BE DOING ON YOUR OWN FOR OPTIMAL SAFETY.
What’s wrong with a hood mirror?
Why can’t you choose your RPMs for the conditions?
Why let this system disrupt your smooth driving when you are simply using your space and keeping your speed?
We don’t need this. Totally hate it.
Additionally, I will never drive anymore automatic trucks of any kind. 10/10 automatic transmissions had major problems (in my experience), are needlessly expensive, work-prohibitive, unnecessary and complicated junk. All have been problems, compared to manual, of which (outside of one total failure at 1,300,000 miles), I’ve never had any major issue, and they’ve saved me from getting stuck, be it from a bad starter, ice or mud. You can make superior, smoother, calculated moves, provided your foot doesn’t totally slip off the clutch pedal.
We could not agree with you more. We had a 2010 Kenworth that we ran all the way until last month. We just bought a 2019 Peterbilt 579 and it has this stupid system on it and it's an automatic. My husband in his 30 years of driving has never driven an automatic. He said it is absolutely horrible and he feels like he doesn't have the kind of control over the truck that he is used to and needs. Just because of the automatic transmission we set up our payments so we could have it paid off in 3 years which is when the warranty expires. He already can't wait to get rid of it. Now this navigation thing won't allow him to put on his oversized signs. It's not possible. It doesn't stop beeping. We so badly want to find out how to disable that whole system altogether. We had to order an owner's manual because it didn't come with one. We've only had the truck about a week. She is majorly regretting the automatic transmission.
@@jenniferwasko4540 I’m so sorry. The one I was referring to was the same make and model of truck, with the Paccar, dealer-specific engine. I asked for any way to remove the adaptive cruise sensors, delete them, anything. All dealers refused to, saying it would not only be a liability for them to do, but they have no official means to do it and it would be very difficult. They will not respect the wishes of the registered owner or accept their business in that regard. You may be able to do it only through some under-the-radar arrangement with a really competent Paccar mechanic, which I found was a possibility... but ultimately we sold the truck during the national used truck shortage at a high price, brushed our hands off of it and moved on.
We went back to a 1993 379 for a time which was a real relief after that experience for a time, but ultimately couldn’t win well enough with that choice in the current fuel situation, and so have landed on a 2018 579 glider kit which is maybe the best situation we could have at the moment. But yeah, for me automatic; NEVER again, and adaptive cruise (which they tried to tell me all trucks will be required to have beyond a certain year) NEVER again. At least, not without option to disable.
Try pulling a loaded tank more offen when in city traffic the transmission doesn't know what gear to go into, when the surge hits it places you back in the lower gear.
I could understand that with some of the transmissions, but this 12 speed Paccar is super smooth. Try one out sometime.
OM MY GOD, YES. Espically going through Missouri Rolling hills. The surge beats the hell out of you constantly.
I couldn't imagine driving a tanker with this crap on 🙅♂️
Box drivers have no idea about a tanker.I drove a flat for 20 yrs,and a tanker is a whole different animal because of the flowing product
@@officervladimir1874 Doing it my self now...... Luckily, I never use cruise anyway.... Dangerous af!
Saw the title of this video and actually foolishly expected an open minded, objective review. Little did I know it's a truck salesman, trying to sell trucks and the current piece of shit Bendix equipment, offered on modern trucks. As somebody who actually drives trucks for a living. Believe me when I tell you, there's a world of difference between a 15 minute test drive, and driving 11 hours a day as I do most days. Every time some jackass 4 wheeler (car) cuts me off by about 5 feet in front of me to catch their last exit - beep beep beep, bendix brakes hard. Every time somebody on a Sunday drive starts lolligagging, erratically dropping their speed by 10 mph in front of me for no reason - beep beep beep. Every time I get brake checked, because I'm in a slow moving truck that somebody got stuck behind for a minute, couldn't figure out how to get around me, and so I'm apparently the a-hole who's holding them up and ruining their day, so as soon as they are able to pass me they make damn sure to cut me off as close as possible and slam on their brakes to apparently repay the favor of slowing them down (brake check) - beep beep beep, bendix slams the brakes hard, everything in the truck not tied down comes forward flying at me. One of my favorites is when there's a sudden sharp curve ahead that bendix fails to identify, but does pick up on the large blunt fixed object directly ahead of where you are, that if not for the curve, you'd be driving right straight head on at - ready for it? - beep beep beep, slam on the brakes.
How about the lane departure warning? Every time you enter a construction zone with a lane closed off by cones, that some overzealous worker got carried away, coned off the lane and 1/3 of the good travel lane by sticking the cones way too far over. Now me in the big wide truck has to straddle the lane and shoulder because that's the only way I fit. But does bendix know or recognize what's going on? Of course not. Only that I'm out of the lane - duh duh duh, duh duh duh, duh duh duh. Nonstop until I can either get back in the lane or out of the construction zone.
Such a neat, driver friendly system Bendix is. Annoys the shit out of the driver all day, until the driver does what Bendix wants it to. But hey, I guess so long as it is making us all "safer" right? 😉.
It's really not a bad idea at all. It just needs much further refinement. I've been driving since 08, and been in trucks with this crap in them since 14. Seven years now of beep beep beep all day long, and I'm still damn nearly postal, as a result.
The maddening thing about it is that. My own personal car has some very similar equipment, I've been in other cars with other similar equipment. And you know what? They all work fantastically, without annoying the ever loving shit out of the driver!! That's what I really don't get...is that it's been proven to me before that this kind of equipment can be made to work in a not so persistently annoying fashion. So where does it say that we truck drivers, who spend much more time on average, driving every day than a normal car commuter, have to have loud beeping, annoying, intrusive safety technology? Do we not deserve comfort and peace of mind too? Does the world really hate truck drivers that darn much, that not only do other commuters road rage on us all day long, but even truck manufacturers and companies tasked with making safety equipment for trucks, have to stick it to us like this, by seeing to it that we can never drive a truck in comfort with peace of mind, ever again?!?!
Until bendix starts to get serious and improve their equipment...just say no to bendix crap!!
#fuckbendix
Amen
I agree with most of what you said except some parts. For example, the truck SHOULD brake if someone brake checks shouldn’t it? Or would you rather it not do that, you go the same speed, and run into it? But for the most part I don’t like that Bendix thing either.
@@jaysant6958 @Anttjuan nah if someone brake checks you, the attentive DRIVER of the truck should brake, not the truck itself. I get that maybe if you're new to the industry, maybe you've never known anything but the current generation of trucks with the current technologies, but used to be trucks with none of these automated safety features on them. I've been driving trucks for almost 15 years. Zero accidents. *knock on wood*. I think the only reason they keep coming up with vehicles (not just trucks) with all these lane departure warning systems, automatic braking, blind spot monitoring, etc. Is because of the distracted driving epidemic. So long as there's still drivers of any vehicles that can't just drive and focus on that above all else, we're gonna continue to see more and more "safety features" that continually take more and more vehicle control out of our hands. Since that's who this technology is designed to save other drivers and pedestrians from, distracted drivers.
You nailed it completely.You should have over a million lakes
I how can I Disable this system is beeping driving me crazy and it Break out of nowhere I own this truck please help me
I wish I knew that beeping shit drives me nuts
Pull the fuse ? Find where beep comes from see if you can unplug or cover speaker to muffle sound
The sounds on mine, I think is in the dash
It's programmed on the computer, only a technician with the program for your truck can bypass it. There are some knowledgeable guys in California. It doesn't have to be at the dealer but they may also be able to cancel it out as well.
@@saztecfiter hi im in SoCal. Do you know who can do this?
Always broken. Can’t use my Cruise control
I have this on my company truck and it’s a pain in the ass because of how they have it setup. It’ll occasionally slam on brakes because of overpasses or sign shadows and the worst part is that it’ll think a car on the off ramp is still in front of me.
But I do love the following distance counter but that’s about it
Interesting and thanks for the feedback Thomas! How often does this happen to you?
Agreed. Do away with the emergency braking part and it's not that bad. Could do away with the ding on the following distance.
Kenworth of Richfield it happens a lot less now since the Lane Departure system on it was fix a month ago and I’ve started taking extra precautions, a lot more than normal, to avoid it getting mad at me
@@Thomas20Smith It's interesting as we drivers have to adapt and evolve a bit with the new technology also.....
@@KenworthofRichfield from what I've seen problems with incorrect braking are because of miscalibration or bad settings.
I like the info I get from the radar, how far away the car in front of me is and how fast it’s going. I HATE that it constantly beeps it doesn’t need to beep it could just put a light on the dash or something.
Or beep twice and done until you get a half second away
Totally makes sense. Louder radio maybe? haha
@@Lysdexis Could be an interesting approach to it also.
@@KenworthofRichfield being that it automatically adjust following distance based on speed meaning 3 seconds at 50 is closer than 3 seconds at 70. The beep being turned off for the 1 second warning below say 45. 2 beeps from there to 65.
I agree on the info from the radar other than following distance would be neat to see their speed and actual distance.
@@KenworthofRichfield Volvo's system actually mutes the radio and when it detects an imminent collision alerts over the truck speakers at murderously loud volume.
16:00 Oh believe me, I notice when the truck slows down, no matter how smoothly or fluidly it does it.
I’m driving a rental and the radar beeping is working but the cruise doesn’t. The maintenance lady and I had words about this. The truck was parked for 3 days yet they didn’t fix the cruise. She got pissed because I sent a text talking about how she’s so tough on safety. Yet they would not fix the cruise control.
I've only had the system for less than a week and I'm to the point of quitting thanks to this system. I've had 3 instances that I've experienced that could have caused bad accidents. 2 instances included trash on the road. At 65mph no traffic ahead of me, the truck kicked out of cruise, slammed on the brakes and engaged the Jake brake. The third instance was when a car was pulled out just a little too far from a driveway, not in the lane but on the edge, again the truck slammed on the brakes and took me from 45mph to 20 in a big hurry. Next is the coasting. While the truck is climbing a hill at the crest, while it's still climbing to 65mph it will cut the power and engage the jakes. The cruise was set at 65mph, then at 60mph it cut the power and jaked down to 55mph then applied power again. Is I helping or hurting us in the real world of driving? Yes!! It has almost had me in 3 accidents and the week isn't over.
Absolutely, mine hammered the brakes at 40 mph in a thunderstorm
I have the same truck except it has the x15 engine. None of these systems replace a driver who is aware. My students rely too heavily on them.
This is one of those areas that where people take things too far. They are driver aids....not driver replacements. They need to be used to assist....not to replace. I agree with you in on it from this perspective.
@@KenworthofRichfield I train new drivers. And its difficult to get some of them to think for themselves and not rely heavily on the adaptive cruise system. Driving a truck is more mentally taxing than most people realize.
@@watchermgtow929 I 100% agree. It's tough to have the attention span for it and to constantly be analyzing situations.
Of course the salesman is going to have a good review.....this system is deadly when it starts to malfunction...and it will
On my 680 the thing I like the cruise for most is heavy merge areas. When you need to merge on or off the highway and have to spend longer bits of time checking mirrors. If someone cuts you off or panics in front of you or decelerates without braking while you are using the mirror, that beep can bring your eyes back front in time to save yourself.
Definitely! That's exactly what it's meant to do. This is one of the best uses of this tool.
Seriously. You cannot merge while looking at your mirrors and out the front windshield... Sad and pathetic!
@@NOONE-rj1ug if I had no peripheral vision I wouldn't pass the med. This is just another tool. Gonna complain about ABS?
Not complaining just speaking the truth. An ABS system doesn't have any physical way to take control of your braking system until you apply the brakes as a driver. The Bendix does, read the manual and you will remove the sugar coating from your eyes. don't just watch the videos to learn and understand it. This is dangerous in combination heavy haul vehicles.
The system works ok in dry weather but when it get ugly and the temp goes down it doesn't work as it should it gets moisture behind it and starts going into faults and lites up the dashboard
Yes..
Any idea if it can be remove?
3:44 the 2021 Volvo I drive is very smooth too. I love how it turn on the exhaust brake to quickly slow the engine down between shift.
In my day cab 2019 680, I like the information it gives me, however in heavy city traffic the beeping drove me crazy, my shop turned the beeping off which is greater sanity for me, also I noticed the adaptive cruise tends to have me less aware of what’s going on around me, when the beeping went away I’m back to being more aware of my surroundings like the last 29 years. My engine is set on efficiency mode which is dead on the hills, if you got sizeable hills put it on the performance mode. Fuel mileage is up nicely. I still don’t care for the automatic trans, it leaves me hanging on hard turning uphill pullouts: example starts pulling out in 2nd it went to shift and it stopped went to 2nd again it stopped it got 3rd and it stopped a little bit before it got 4th. The scary part is I’m a sitting duck on a hill on a 55mph road which is a 2 lane. I had no problem like that with my manual and I flat shift been doing that for all my years till now
Totally makes sense in all of it. Thanks for the feedback Mike!
I’m not gonna lie when I was in training my trainer had the adaptive cruise control and it made driving easy since the truck did most of the work and I wasn’t easily fatigued BUT once I got my own truck that didn’t have adaptive cruise control I learned right away that I depended too much on a system to drive for me because my awareness was numb. Since I’ve driven for months without it I can say I’m a much better driver without relying on a computer system. The system is fine I still welcome it but my advice is if you’re new get a feel for the truck so you’re aware of how your trick handles in case the system goes down and you need manual operation in whatever condition you’re in.
I had a rental cascadia while my truck was in for diff pump... It had this installed, and I loved it. My next ride will absolutely have it. The only issue I had was with passing.. the system would wait like a full second before it hit the gas, so I found it was better to disable cruse, start the pass, then reengage the cruse. You do this at the wheel, so it was great.
It's all about finding ways to work together with the systems instead of trying to fight them.
I like my T 880. It is still a truck. Manual trans. Rear ends are a little tall 3:36 so when running 55 in Ohio pulling oversize. Needs a gear for 55. 10speed 55mph is 1100 rpm in tenth. Sweet spot is 12,1300 rpm. Aero dinamics Don't work so well for a 60000 lb 20 ft seacan on a 40 ft triaxle. I use Cruse control for one thing. High idle but not that often. Instead of coasting in cruise full Jake's should be automacicly on at 5 mph over set speed. Stage 1at 1mph over Stage 2 at 3 mph over Stage 3 at 5 mph over. I had that in a 98 ihc red top n14. 6.5 lifetime avg. My T880 gets around 6.2. avg. But I've only put 26000 miles on it since new in March. (Semi local Drayage work). My concerns about active cruise control is ghosts and 'snow load' jabbing the brakes on black ice. I've never used active "smart" truck. I like a dumb truck that does what I need. No questions. And yes I do miss a rotary phone rain on a tin roof and Johnny Carson.
Carson was the best....I agree. ...partially because I play drums also (as did he). THere are a number of different settings that can be changed to get things setup right for what you do.
I really hate that mitigation system it has nearly put me in a spin out several times last year driving inner city Denver, another gripe I have for the t680 is why doesn't the engine brake work below 9th gear? I have to drive Loveland pass with a loaded tanker of fuel what is up with the stupid Jake brake? And why doesn't the truck hold my cruise control setting of 65 mph? The stupid thing drops clear down to 55 mph before it powers up again I find it's better just to leave the cruise off...
What are my experiences? I start following someone doing the speed limit. They pass someone doing 5 less than the speed limit. My truck now locks on and wants to do 5 less than the speed limit. I have to reset and set constantly. I might as well just have regular cruise control. After a few months the ACC went out. Dealership says it needs a new sensor that costs lots of $$$ and aren't available right now anyway. My experience- it sucks.
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I buy new t680,2021 I put moose bumpers about 7 months ago the thing give me problems when snow or rain my truck cruise stopped working and lot of lights on in the dash three fours times I take the dealership but same problem please tell me what I can do.
Thanks
Mine locks up the whole truck when another vehicle is to close or cuts me off
I have a 2016 T680 this system has been nothing but trouble trying to find somewhere that can delete it as soon as it gets wet it defaults freezing up is also a huge issue just want it gone
Freezing up?
Today experienced brakes applying hard brakes in rain,snow and ice at 32 Fahrenheit,in the night. Scared the shit out of me.It just went nuts keep applying collision warning and braking. But I noticed that the warning comes up when going beyond 55,or 60mph.
I just want to know how to disable the radar panel on the bumper..
We just bought a Peterbilt 579. It's a 2019. It has this lane mitigation system. It does not allow him to put on his oversized signs and that's all he hauls is oversized. We need to figure out how to disable this crap that we don't want or need. He's not allowed to cut holes in the oversized signs to accommodate this system
Does anyone know how to disable it all together? We just had to order an owner's manual because it didn't come with one
I drive a 579 peterbilt and it has this cruise control system and I hate it when you're using it under a load and cars start jumping in front of you all it does is push you back and yes your right it'll slow down so smoothly that you don't even realize it until you start noticing that other trucks are passing you quickly that's when you look down at your gauges and notice your doing 60 on a 75 mph highway and the worst experience I had was while I was switching lanes a car jumped in the lane I was on cause he was ramping on and so I let off my throttle to try to give him some room and at the same time switch lanes I couldn't believe it as soon as I let off and started to switch the cruise control system my my truck hard brake while I was switching lanes now that was crazy so I would like to know how can I deactivate this system so I can have control of the distance there should be in between my truck and car in front of me and still be able to use cruise control????
There's no real way to disable it unfortunately. In this, the next best thing is to just hit cancel for a few seconds, take control, then hit resume and you'll be right back to where you were.
Yeah, I have a question about my adaptive cruise radar fault keep popping up on the instrument panel. And I get a code one. I have a bendix system on a 2019 peterbilt. Short nose. At any given unpredictable unpredictable time the code fault will kick on . It happens on clear sunny days to bad to mild weather and even at night time driving as well. I for the most part barely use the cruise control. I check the menu on the bendix system located on the windshield and everything checks out ok. I also have near my right side front windshield attached bendix monitor with three lights of yellow blue n red with a speaker to alert beeps from time to time. I inspect my radar panel outside of my truck below the grill and it's clean n clear of any damage or debris. So what is the deal with this ongoing message. Final note it was taken to a peterbilt dealership to fix prior to this message approx. A month ago to work on this same problem. Days later same issue arises.
I just bought a volvo 2016 670vnl the sensor inside has no power for the passenger side sensor by the steps, it doesn't let me use cruis control, I use it to manage speed as a dummy proof to doing more, I have no idea where to look for the power supply to this, could you help me..
The 2023 t880 auto trans suck. My truck has less than 43k miles on it and it has issues. When use the Jake brake it throws a error code and then it won't shift. I have to switch it to neutral and back to drive for it to reset before I had to stop, turn the truck off for it to reset. Also the check engine light is in for injector problem.
I had my brakes lock up in Austin, Tx just as I was going under a bridge scary experience. Company bought a 2019 peterbilt with the same exact radar/sensors and cruise control fault lit up right out of the gate. Don’t like it one bit(collision mitigation system).
I like the adaptive cruise but I hate that it locks the brakes up going under overpasses. I had to rip the damn thing out before it caused a crash.
It's a big problem is that when bugs start to cover that black square plastic radar sensor on the front of the truck, you could be driving along at 65 mph and then out of nowhere the computer will tell the truck to slam on its brakes. If you are not in the far right lane then you won't have enough time to move over to the shoulder before the truck is completely stopped in the middle of the freeway which is only a few seconds. I've heard many stories of this happening. Extremely dangerous situation. On top of that you're not allowed to. It has happened to me two times. Whistling Dixie the truck will just slam on his brakes because the radar plastic on the front has too many bugs splattered on it. Worse yet it happens in the winter time with snow and sludge. If a car pulls in front into your lane and it's too close your truck will not just tap the brakes a little bit but it will literally slam on the brakes which creates a potential accident behind you in the form of a rear end collision. Made for by Kenworth but I can say this is the most unsafe system. Get worn out and sensors stop working. Unfortunately the genius engineers that designed this stuff have no clue and designed it so that if there's a problem the truck will just slam on its brakes in the middle of the highway. The foolish designers are able to solve complex math equations and yet at the same time they lack wisdom and are dumber than rocks
I've been running this system for the last few years in my 2016 t680 ...at the very least you could give us a switch on the dashboard to be able to turn it off at will and go back to the regular system and regular Cruise...also have had several trucks where the cruise control shuts off in the rain... Still working on that one
There have been some updates that really help things with this. Have you been into a dealership recently on this?
That thing almost made me crash one time on a curb when a car cut me off and the truck slam on the brakes
@7:30 this guy is informative yet funny and I bet hes not even trying and that's what cracks me up....thank you sir for this video
How does it respond to motorcycles? I spent a day in an International LT with a similar system but it couldnt detect motorcycles if they were in the right groove.
I wonder if it could've been a calibration issue... I'm in a T680, and it detected a guy on a moped that was on the far right side of the road.
Saw a video explaining how small vehicles such as motorcycles are hard for these type of system to detect. Also, when going around turns the sensor points straight out so the car you’re following around a turn may drop off the sensor and the truck will ‘resume’ cruise control and increase in speed during the turn. System isn’t fool proof I guess.
We have two trucks with the adaptive cruise, matching spec 2016 T-880s. And they are the only two that we are going to have it as while one has worked well, the other has been a nightmare. I don't know all the details as it is in our Boise location and the other truck which has ran well is at the Jerome location where I drive out of. I do know the assigned driver and the fleet manager are really not happy with the truck. The one we have has been pretty solid, so I joke that our truck was built on a Wednesday and theirs was built on payday Friday before a holiday.
I've put a few thousand on the T-880 we have and honestly I think it requires you to pay more attention. Because you have to switch lanes to pass much further back than normal or the system will speed match. And starting to pass another rig almost four seconds back, tends to annoy other motorists a lot. Idaho, Wyoming and Nevada have higher speed limits so you catch those 62-64 governed trucks in a hurry even at 70. Two lanes its kind of aggravating as it beeps and throws a fit when you get close to someone to pass them, like 93 between Twin Falls ID and Wells NV, a lot of house sized RVs with no guts to pull any of the hills.
I think the idea is good, but the technology needs to be a little more robust as trucks will shake anything not well built apart.
Most of what you said makes really good sense. In this, I think that the technology will get better with time. What's interesting is that we've all "driven too close" and gotten away with it for so long, that we don't realize what a good following distance is. Guilty of it myself. In the same sense, it sounds like you've done a good job adapting to it when you're driving it, which is huge. Those that don't adapt, will fail. Thanks for posting!
I drive a Kenworth with adaptive cruise and collision mitigation and while I won't deny its usefulness I will say that it is dangerous. Especially in adverse weather conditions whether it's raining or snowing or little icy out if anyone cut you off which they often do or if you're going around a curve and there was somebody slightly in front of you in the left or right lane the Collision mitigation kicked in and then locks up the brakes and then you don't have control
I'm crazy about removing that sensor from my truck, sometimes it brakes when it sees a bridge, and other times when I have cars on the sides and there is a curve, if anyone knows how to remove that shit I would appreciate it.
How do you bypass it? It's the most intrusive, stressful, horrible thing I've ever experienced in trucking. I've already been rear-ended TWICE, and that NEVER happens in trucking, especially by a car.
I don't mind the cruise radar. I often use it to read the speed and distance of the people ahead of me to know if I need to get into the lane or not. If somebody's going to be an issue.
What I don't care for is the going to sleep to conserve fuel, while I'm in hills and mountains.
Now I'm an international ProStar 2020 with adaptive cruise. That's what I want to ask. Just give me regular Cruise control, not adaptive.
Thing falls asleep in the middle of cresting a hill, it doesn't wake up in the valley when I try to tap the gas it'll reset the speed to the current speed. So there's stupid programming but if they could fix that, then they're very helpful
How often do you need to swap it out or know when you need a new one ? Or service it
PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO TURN OFF THE BEEPING PART OR TURN IT OFF
Unfortunately, there is no way to turn off the beeping. :(
Yes the peeping is the worst because I'm sorry when your driver gets irritated because it's still going off because another car gun pron you and then another and another and another a makes you just want to crash into everybody like go karts it's ridiculous and this is a very unsafe thing to put in a truck..
NOT A FAN OF THIS ANNOYING SOUND OR SYSTEM.👎
Alerts are way too loud to the point of being painful, volume cannot be adjusted. It may be helpful as a training tool for newbies, but I have serious reservations about its larger implications. The experienced driver has learned a certain way to be safe without such bells and dingdongs, is trained to go into 'alert mode' himself when the truck beeps- engine overheating? oil pressure loss? air line busted and dumping pressure? Causes for adrenalin to rush as these are emergency situations. Now you have an excessive amount of alerts that raise a driver's stress level that are not really cause for concern because half the response is automated... desensitizing drivers to inputs from the truck.
The top safety issue in experienced drivers is complacency! This system trains a driver to be more complacent rather than in control and proactive. If you pay attention to what the automated stuff is doing, you just get pissed off why it is cutting your fuel at the bottom of a hill just because the vehicle 3 secs in front is slowing down as it climbs, you end up bogging down unnecessarily instead of staying on the fuel with the driver actually in control of the truck, changing lanes if needed.
Fuel economy- with 2.5m million miles on my back, I guarandamntee you, I will outperform adaptive cruise with auto trans if you put me in a truck with a 13 speed and no beeping system. It is a matter of good driver habits, traffic anticipation and deliberate action. These nanny systems take away all of that and force a driver to be a steering wheel holder rather than a real professional.
what does it do in bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic?
Not much.
Got a 19 389 with that bendix system on the front and it locked up the brakes because a black plastic bag flew in front of the truck luckily no one was behind me and by the way it's an autoshift transmission still has a clutch the bendix sucks and in the winter when its covered with snow it don't work any way its good in heavy fog or rain other than that it sucks we had trucks jackknife in the winter reading a bridge going uphill and if you are in a standard transmission truck and you get cutoff and the truck locks up the brakes you will tear something up if since you wont be able to push the clutch in and you dont have a eld in the truck ticking down but new drivers reley to much on tfar crap and pay less attention to traffic and there surrounding and the transmission can be programmed to shift more aggressive and the truck going in idle coasting will lower oil pressure to the engine and the camshaft and rollers wont be lubricated correctly and if you have an issue with the truck going back under power on it's own you will burn up your brakes trying to stop since your Jake's ain't working any more
The company that I'm leased to has this system on their trucks. Has an owner operator they asked if I wanted to try it out. I have been driving since 2006 with zero accidents. I told them if I start getting into accidents I will consider it, but I don't need a computer telling me how to drive. And please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's crap or anything. Seems like it would benefit some people. Just not me, not right now. Nice truck.
Makes sense Scott. In the same sense, what's difficult is that people often don't get the chance to "try" things like this. It's either an all or nothing deal. This is something that when people try it and learn how to work with it instead of against it, they usually love it. Just a though. :D
Can you please tell me how to disable that
A vehicle cut in front of me and that thing locked my brakes up and twisted the steering wheel to the left causing the truck to swerve into the left lane and side swiped a car. Luckily the damage was just scrapes in the paint job but it could've been a lot worse. Took it to the shop and they said they see nothing wrong. They also checked the whole steering unit and axles even brakes and found nothing wrong. Need to find a way to turn this thing off.
In my experience in my T680, the adaptive cruise has been annoying as hell. Honestly have nothing good to say about it. I hate that it’ll randomly confuse an overpass for a vehicle and shut off. The fact that it’ll cut the throttle if a vehicle gets in front of the truck while it’s speeding up back to the set point, even if the vehicle is driving faster than you, until the sensor no longer detects the vehicle. You have to hit the pedal when climbing hills so this doesn’t happen. Most importantly, I HATE that the truck will get an adaptive cruise error, wether it’s because of rain or ice or it just feels like messing up, and I can’t clear it while driving! The truck may do it itself but unless you shut the truck off, you can’t just clear the code and use the cruise again. That’s incredibly stupid and I’ve talked to Hissong in Hilliard about reprogramming my truck just to delete it. Also, some ECU update done to my truck years ago made it so I can’t change any settings with the cruise. I’ll never drive another anything with adaptive cruise once I trade this truck in.
I can understand your frustration Dion. In this, I'd like to find out what year your truck is.
@@KenworthofRichfield It's a 2015
Could you tell me if you have the parts or you can install Adaptive Cruise Control for Sprinter 2014
Unfortunately, we would not have a system for that Mike, :(
How can I be safer I never take my foot off the accelerator because soon as I do it slows down
All in all it's not bad. It has its flaws just like all new technology. It picks up traffic signs and can and has freaked out and slammed on the brakes because of it.
It has however made me more concious of my following distance. The maintaining distance with the cruise truly is so smooth you dont notice it.
The biggest complaints I have are the inability for it to know what's on the edge of the road in a corner (construction barrel, etc) and the beep when I'm speeding up to pass when someone merges onto the highway and is going slower. Those could have been settings that the company put in place. I'm not sure but those made me not a huge fan of what has the potential to be very good.
I've had it flash the warning on a bridge sign or something similar, but it never activated the brakes on one of these false alarms, just turned off the cruise.
Might want to have your calibration checked
@@hbomatt I believe it was company settings plus this was last year so I'm sure its had many updates and tweaks since then. I no longer drive for that company so who knows. When I do buy a new new truck it will probably have the system on it if i can set it up how i want it.
I've not had it do that to me, but a couple of monster tumbles weeds have made it beep and let off the throttle.
Adaptive cruise is fine until it picks up that random overhead sign on the interstate and puts the brakes on.
Also, automated manuals suck at maneuvering at low speeds when loaded (backing, starting from a stop while making a turn). Too lurchy in my experience. Great for stop and go traffic, however.
I can see that with some of the older transmissions Ben. Have you used a newer one?
@@KenworthofRichfield No, last one was a 2017 Freightliner Cascadia with DT12 automated manual transmission.
Soooo true but DT12's seems more refined in engaging at low speeds than the one found behind some Cummins application.
I like that feature its a safety tool to help the driver keep out of trouble does it work with a manual transmission
It does work with a manual trans also, yes.
Well how do we do something about this
One other thing about it is the Cruise control is allowed to be closer without beeping than if the driver has control. If I use cruise and get close enough to get the beeping, and I put on cruise it stops beeping at the same distance indicating the engineers trust the cruise more than they trust the driver.
Having said all that I said in these two comments, I DO use cruise control constantly, I just wish the engineers were better at designing it and engaged with driver feedback so they can learn what's needed. Just like you can't legislate everything in the name of safety or equity, you can't hamper all the drivers for the mistakes of a few.
I have the same system on a Peterbilt. I dont mind having the system. The only problem I see with it. Is the system still has glitches. It reads shadows of overpasses and hits the brakes. I have had the system aligned several times.
The way the system works, I know that it can't see shadows as I believe it's lidar. But, if it's aimed up too high, I could see it seeing a bridge.
My experience with it is sometimes truck goes on brake by itself even I don’t have any car in front of me. Or it show on my dashboard adaptative cruise fault so just don’t know what’s going on. Video is helpful thank you 🙏
Is this system able to be disabled at a dealer? I own my t680 and Hate it
What about icy roads?
Bullship on icy roads it will stop or break your truck if somebody cuts it funny you it is the worst invention ever
You know i think that drivers will depend on this stuff to much.
You should post some of your good used trucks you have for sale
Hi Barry! I know that some drivers probably will, but those drivers would otherwise be more dangerous as they'll probably set the regular cruise control. The only way around it no matter what is constant vigilance.....no matter what driving aids are involved.
@@KenworthofRichfield
Yes i agree 100% the old days are gone
I was trained by a o/o. But that was years ago.
@@bigb9061 Always be learning :D
@@KenworthofRichfield i am looking for a used w9ool. You have to be learning i guess when i retire i will know it all. Lol
@@bigb9061 hahahahah
Adaptive cruse if not vigilant to other vehicles entering the on ramp is a best problematic. I have adaptive cruse on my truck and you do get in a zone after an hour or less. Maybe a vehicle warning indicator coming up on your side so you can speed up or break???
Is that a Paccar or Eaton 12 speed?
It's the Paccar......which is pretty much the same as the Eaton. :D
Are they similar as far as weight? I’m hearing that Eaton is lighter.
@@chrismoody5977 As far as I know, it's the same case/internals.
Try driving it in the snow. It will lock up the brakes on you without any car around causing you to go into a skid.
Never put something like that on a truck without an override switch.
My experience was always a good one with that kind of system. Only thing I didn't like..... Is I would get behind a slow driver and it works so good I didn't notice I was going so much slower lol
I unplug it on volvo 780 something??
How do u disconnect it... its dangerous!!
I hate it. I drive a 2021 t680. It hits the brakes for no reason. My guess is that the reflection or glare of overhead highway signs trigger it as well as overpasses. Not allways but when I drive under them it has slammed on the brakes. Fyi while manually driving it as well as with CC. Great video thanks
We had a truck wreck because a newer driver was driving thru snow. The driver had the cruise control on but not activated he was on the pedal. A chunk of snow blocked the radar the system freaked out and slammed on the brakes. Being a new driver he didn't know how to control the truck in a slide and wrecked.
Does disabling it affect the engine?
Adaptive cruise is by far the most dangerous thing they can put into a commercial vehicle. I have a 2017 and have never once had it mitigate a collision. I have had it slam on the breaks for over pass shadows light pole shadows cars well off the exit ramp sometimes 200ft plus .... for no reason randomly slamming on the breaks for shadows and the way cars follow to close its only a matter of time before someone rear ends ya with this system. Buy the truck without it. It is a hindrance not a benefit from experience.... if I could figure out how to disable it with the cruise still working I would .... if anyone knows please help before it causes an accident
Hey, Jack, how to disable that dumb thing off?!!!
Uninstall the whole system
How to disable it ?
👍😉. I like your info videos like these.
I was driving and there was a truck just waiting to pull out, wasent in my lane at all just a clean white super ten and my truck slammed on the brakes for a second and scared the shit out of me. I don’t like it and am trying to turn it off.
I am now familiar with the system. I One a 2015, and it has this avoidance system on it. In light traffic over the road and all the white empty spaces, this is a very effective system for managing fuel efficiency, and reducing the attentive load on the driver. That being said, I can absolutely not stand the system. In the wide open spaces, it’s fine, however when it is placed in heavy city traffic, such as Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago etc. this system rapidly becomes one of the absolute most audio bowl irritations in the truck. It’s constant and habitual beeping whether the cruise control is active or not is absolutely unnerving. I suspect, that the small speaker that is quite inconveniently buried up into the dash, will be having an accident and it’s very near future. The system is a sound idea. The audio warnings of the system however, should have a damn off switch for city traffic. Those are my thoughts, and my personal experiences with the system.
it almost make me roll over on a curve by it thinking I was doing to fast and slamming on brakes
Cause deer guard blocking it and i always get messages about check radar and seek service
I hate it. I LIKE DRIVING THE TRUCK. There's nothing great about. You have to fight the truck. Very distractive. If u don't no how to drive a truck. You should not be driving it. I unplugged mine and it's a night and day on stress. No fighting the truck now.
Now i want to see a video on what to do when "Adaptive Cruise Fault" comes on.
It makes it a beginners truck. I know how to keep a safe distance. I notice you don’t have a bumper guard on the truck. If you hit a deer or even something small, the sensor up front can easily get damaged and costly to repair.
In the winter, the sensor constantly gets covered with ice and snow and doesn’t work but every 30 seconds, you get the notification on your dash telling you that. That becomes an annoyance/distraction
I have it on my 2020 VNL and I hate i find it an annoyance.over 35 years driving and i can drive just fine all by my self.
Marc,
Interesting you say that. What makes it annoying for you?
I didn't have a problem with this till today at 300hrs when I was going 65mph On a major hwy and my truck almost came to a stop when passing an overpass. Its been 12 hours now.Im still having a headache,stiff neck/ shoulders,and lower back pain.I dont need this system in my truck Ive been driving for over 40 years never gotten a ticket. this should be good onlyfor bad drivers to help them drive better.
I have a KW T680 with it for years, I hate the system because it is not only annoying but very dangerous. It may kill you by wrongful brake in many situations.
You've had bad experiences with the system?
All that system does is never allows the driver to use the cruise control because the constant influx of cars in front of the truck. And constantly beeps because if a car sees a space in front of a truck they will take it regardless of your speed or the amount of space your radar needs. It's the most stressful thing I have to deal with on the road making my blood pressure boil. And my truck being a Kenworth t680 that I OWN, Kenworth REFUSES to disable it. Never buy another one EVER........
In my experience, the adaptive cruise control is useful for heavy traffic. But I mostly not in heavy traffic, and it's following distance is so long, about 10 seconds, then it really interferes with passing. Worse than that, sometimes it applies emergency brakes because it's he's a bridge, or a speed limit sign, or sometimes nothing at all. I don't think it's safe to have an automated system that I can apply emergency brakes for no reason at all.
Absolute garbage. In 26 years i have never hated driving a new truch as i do now. Cruise control not even useable, collision warnings for no reason, truck drops 3 or 4 miles per hour at the bottom if every hill. Junk! If any designer is proud of this crap go drive one for a few days in traffic and hill country. You ruined trucking.
It's dangerous for EVERYONE on the road when I get cut off the truck stops from 65 2 0 in seconds
Will this bring the truck to a complete stop?
I'm not 100% for sure. I believe so,
@@KenworthofRichfield pretty sure it won't come all the way down. As soon as there is ANY input on throttle or brake from the driver the auto brake disables.
@@hbomatt That makes the most sense to me.
I drive 2020 cascadia and this thing is killing me! It reads bridges and traffic signs as an obstacle then it hits the brakes by it self.... that’s stupid and dangerous! On the ❄️ road or rain this is a death sentence!!! Also just listening to that awful sound for 10 hours every day can only drive you nuts! It makes this hard job even harder and more stressful! Also the warning sign covers entire display when you need it most, in congested sections than you have to cancel that thing by pressing the button.... like 10 times till you reach the truck which you want to take over.... Anyone who drives trucks knows what I’m talking about.
I have to this system in my 2018 T680. This is the worst system ever. It will slam on the brakes if the sun is on the wrong side of the overpass. It reads the overpass as stationary object and applies the brakes also gives the very large red brake warning on the dash as it slams on the brakes. This is not a safe system. Oh and by the way I run hazmat and the last time it braked like that I almost jackknife. It happens to me sometimes two or three times a day then nothing for a few days then it is back with a vengeance. Is there a way to turn it off? I own this truck so if there is a way someone please let me know. Be safe out there driver’s.
I would have to agree also that it does make driving more dangerous as it will break without warning sometimes when there is nothing in front of you when there are no Cars sometimes a dip in a hill. I also would prefer a switch that I can turn it off and on. I have a night driver where I almost never have vehicles in front of me and all this does is create problems that don't exist already. But I am also a trainer and students are quite unsafe and like to ride up on people in which case I love this system because I don't have to be nagging them all the time they just ask what the beeping is and I tell them they are too close. But the biggest change I would like to see is that it is comfortable following at 2 seconds and I have always been told a minimum of 6 seconds under good conditions. The radar though does not sense the vehicles more than 5 Seconds Away and it only changes speed at about 2 seconds which is already two or three times closer than I want to be I actually drive about 12 seconds behind vehicles that truck could blow up in front of me and I would be able to stop without shifting my load at all. I would not put one in my own truck if I was an owner operator but I definitely would want one in any training truck for students
It's sucks on two lane highway with a lots of traffic.