Why Fewer People Are Having Kids Today

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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    Does saying yes to babies mean saying no to wealth and retirement? Rachel and George talk about the major money fears stopping Millennials and Gen Zers from starting a family--including the estimated $310,605 price tag per child. 👶💰
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Комментарии • 766

  • @GeorgeKamel
    @GeorgeKamel Год назад +267

    Thank you all for the sweet, congratulatory comments! Had to let my SMHH peeps be the first to know! ❤

  • @astrea79
    @astrea79 Год назад +86

    Part of it is also higher expectations. I've been told by my own parents that if I can't provide the same quality of living as I had growing up, then I wouldn't be a good parent. Meaning, if I can't afford a single family home, be a stay at home mom and pay for their college. Attaining that lifestyle is much more difficult than it was when my parents were my age.

    • @katemiller7874
      @katemiller7874 Год назад +6

      Oh bull. We made less money, interest rates were higher in the 80’s we worked our asses off

    • @astrea79
      @astrea79 Год назад +36

      @@katemiller7874 I'm sure you did work hard. But housing is still more expensive than it was 40 years ago and wages haven't kept up with inflation. Average daycare cost is 243.77% higher than it was in 1990. And I would need daycare because my spouse and I both work full time, unlike my parents in the 1980s.

    • @K-sd5so
      @K-sd5so Год назад +2

      What??? Plenty of good parents don’t have single family houses, pay for college etc. I’m a single parent if 3 and we are just fine.

    • @astrea79
      @astrea79 Год назад +12

      @@K-sd5so I know it's possible but my parents believe it's not ok for me to "bring down" their grandkids. I.e. have a lower standard of living than what I had growing up. Basically I should have married a millionaire or won the lottery 😅 my parents are just being stuck up and guilt tripping me.

    • @kellygoodwin1439
      @kellygoodwin1439 Год назад +8

      I feel you, it's so hard. Inflation over the past 5 years has been insane. Housing prices DOUBLED in my area going from 200k to 400k. If I had graduated 5 years later, I would not have been able to afford to live in what used to be an affordable town in GA. Groceries are so much more. It's not like incomes doubled within 5 years!!

  • @jck6920
    @jck6920 Год назад +67

    We don’t need more help with childcare in this country; we need more help to enable parents to stay at home and raise their children. And we need a culture and society that is supportive of stay at home parenting and invested in stay at home parenting.

  • @MeowmyandMe
    @MeowmyandMe Год назад +51

    Here is why I haven’t had kids: I spent ten years curing myself of a serious eating disorder. I was not mentally, physically or socially in the place to take care of anyone but myself. Recovery was a full-time job; very worth it but serious consequences came with devoting a decade of my prime years to survival.

    • @carlaritchie331
      @carlaritchie331 Год назад +5

      Good example! It is true that health considerations are important. That could be mental, emotional, spiritual, relational, and/or physical health. Responsible parents are ideally healthy adults.

    • @mauricioh6716
      @mauricioh6716 11 месяцев назад +2

      God bless you.

    • @MeowmyandMe
      @MeowmyandMe 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@mauricioh6716 thank you! Much appreciated! I feel blessed to be better and able to enjoy life! That is worth a ton!

  • @jill9606
    @jill9606 Год назад +13

    I’m a 30-weeks pregnant mom of a 2 year old and this is one area I totally disagree with the Ramsey show about- “have kids regardless of debt” because I think it totally contradicts what they say about everything else. Oftentimes, daycare is as much, if not more, than a mortgage. We will pay $1,700/mo for daycare for 2 and our mortgage is $1,711/mo. You wouldn’t encourage someone to get a second mortgage, so why are you encouraging people to have children endlessly?

    • @PookysMom6
      @PookysMom6 Год назад +1

      If you don't bring home much more than $1700/month, it might be time to consider staying home for a season. Take in to consideration what it costs to work: day care, professional clothing -- care/upkeep/purchasing, lunches, gas, car maintenance, etc. If you're only bringing home $100/month, is working worth it? (For my family, that's exactly what happened, and so I stayed home with my children. There were some months that were harder than others, but every bit of it was worth it for my family!)

    • @jill9606
      @jill9606 Год назад +7

      @@PookysMom6 I bring home $5,500/mo excluding my husband’s salary nearly twice mine, so $1,700 doesn’t make or break us. The point is that a lot of people who are already barely scraping by have kids and can’t afford childcare but also can’t afford to stay home, so they shouldn’t be encouraging people to have babies left and right.

    • @donaldlyons17
      @donaldlyons17 Год назад +1

      @@jill9606 Thank you!!!!!

  • @angelachapman4415
    @angelachapman4415 Год назад +179

    I liked this discussion but just some honest feedback- I think it's easy to sit and say don't let finances stop you from having kids when you're millionaires. It just feels a little easy for you to say that from where you sit. I still somewhat agree with you but it depends on the circumstances of each person. If you are in deep debt or struggling to afford rent or something, it is a very real consideration.

    • @taylerlong2995
      @taylerlong2995 Год назад +13

      Agree. Our kid had some needs that weren't expensive, necessarily, but did keep me from working. It's been tight and if we'd still been in debt when we got pregnant, and I couldn't work, we'd still be in debt today four years later.

    • @sassygrilledcheese
      @sassygrilledcheese Год назад

      No Kidding. Not to mention that this country (the US) is very anti-parent. attainable jobs rarely accommodate parents and single moms, and if you can't have a good enough paying job how are you going to afford daycare and more expensive housing in addition to the default costs of raising a kid? It feels impossible.

    • @JL-ds1pi
      @JL-ds1pi Год назад +16

      They didn't deny the fact, "it will cost $300,000 from when they're young up until they're 18".
      So that's why they said you need to prepare and budget. They spent like 20 minutes talking about the costs.. you must've missed it.
      I think one thing that wasn't talked about is also when we delay in having kids, when you are financially 'stable', it would be much later in your life, health and fertility is a factor.

    • @maxlodewyk_na
      @maxlodewyk_na Год назад +3

      @@JL-ds1pi spot on.

    • @jelaninoel
      @jelaninoel Год назад +8

      Yea the more I listened the more these two sounded out of touch with regular people. No doubt they’re rich talking like that

  • @katieryb2919
    @katieryb2919 Год назад +107

    There’s gatta be a part 2 you guys!
    There’s strollers for 2k, and there’s strollers for $100 bucks. Same with car seats, bassinets, cribs and everything else… I think comparing prices and stuff would be super useful for this episode:)
    Don’t over spend where you don’t need to! Congrats you guys :)

    • @katemiller7874
      @katemiller7874 Год назад

      But ya make sure they are safe.

    • @JMaki-mr2mh
      @JMaki-mr2mh 4 месяца назад

      So true! Spend money on the carseat but it doesn't have to be plush. We spent around $200.
      We spent 600$ on child bed that could go from bassinet, to crib, to day bed. (Unfortunately, we didn't give it away soon enough and the kids broke the box spring.) Friends were looking for one and we felt so bad that we couldn't pass it on.
      Only spent $100 on clothes.
      Every thing else was freely given.
      Diapers were our #1 cost. 😢

  • @marissa-b
    @marissa-b Год назад +53

    My husband & I are renting an apartment right now with a toddler and another baby on the way. Our budget is tight but I am happy we are having kids now and not waiting. Kids are a blessing. Congratulations George on your new little one! You will be a great dad.

    • @pamelalima5401
      @pamelalima5401 Год назад +1

      Yes there’s time to have babies but anytime you can make many

  • @donnadagostino7717
    @donnadagostino7717 Год назад +21

    Awesome show. We have 3 children and money was really tight when they were little because I stayed home with them. They had no idea. They had love and toys and each other. Best years of our lives!

  • @gils1930
    @gils1930 Год назад +46

    Have Dave Ramsey build a daycare center in his business for the working parents that work for him. Congratulations George and Whitney.🎉

    • @deb9806
      @deb9806 5 месяцев назад

      I felt bad when a worker got pregnant and he let her go breaking the "no sex" rule. Seemed mean but he is not like that with callers. I guess he separates the two. I do think a daycare is a good idea though.

  • @dustyh2371
    @dustyh2371 Год назад +92

    Congratulations, George & Whitney! It's going to be fun for everyone to see how you grow as a dad and share your experiences!

  • @katelyndefreitas2810
    @katelyndefreitas2810 Год назад +5

    We paid $25,000 in one year just daycare alone

    • @ASLunar
      @ASLunar Год назад

      That's insane!! How many kids do y'all have?

  • @youngblood23rb
    @youngblood23rb Год назад +31

    The amount of generosity from loving friends and family is amazing when having children, everyone chips in, hand down cloths, big ticket items, pack n plays, swings, toys, etc.

    • @cuban1ta
      @cuban1ta Год назад +5

      Not my people, except my mom

    • @youngblood23rb
      @youngblood23rb Год назад +5

      @novakd1530 In a bubble that includes good people that uplift one another

    • @katemiller7874
      @katemiller7874 Год назад +3

      Novak D - they are speaking from their personal experience. It was the same in our family

    • @jck6920
      @jck6920 Год назад +1

      I wish that were true for everyone, OP. 😞

    • @deb9806
      @deb9806 5 месяцев назад

      That's not the stuff that makes babies expensive. If you have bad insurance (I was blessed that way) it can be very expensive, daycare/nursery school, and don't get me started how crazy playing a sport is. I'm glad my kids wanted music and things like that, I saved thousands.

  • @ktjomeyers
    @ktjomeyers Год назад +22

    You can raise children for so much less than $1700! We had 4 children when we made less than $30,000 a year, I was a stay at home mom for 12 years. I cooked meals at home, we went to the library and the park for fun. We scrimped and saved but it was worth it. You never get those young years back. ❤

    • @brianciofani4698
      @brianciofani4698 11 месяцев назад

      Thank you!!

    • @teebone2157
      @teebone2157 9 месяцев назад +2

      You received public assistance

    • @sitka49
      @sitka49 8 месяцев назад +1

      your making a bad comparison. We did that too ,but that was back in the earlier 90's and we bought our first home ( house payment $300 month although my interest rate was 11.5%) $45,000. and then a few yrs later sold that home, and bought a home for $94,000 and now the market its worth $450,000.

    • @katherinelipari6610
      @katherinelipari6610 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@sitka49it still happens now. My husband and I have four (5, 3, 2 and a baby), he is a school teacher, I stay home. We don't do things that cost money - so we do parks, libraries, beaches, and visiting nearby family - we cook at home, our kids wear hand-me-downs, and we only own one car. Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. It isn't money, it is where our loves lie. Children aren't what people love nowadays.

  • @hockeyhalod
    @hockeyhalod Год назад +45

    Congrats George!!!! FYI George, some of the best girl dads are the super buff ones whose hearts melt when their girls are around. Basically a super protector that shows their soft side.

  • @tcgtpl
    @tcgtpl Год назад +17

    There was a study that NPR discussed some time ago about the biggest factor that influences the childbirth rate of a society was women’s education level. School, college, university, then starting a career & so on pushes the ages to when women have kids to later. Add that people are getting married later in life, couples will have fewer years to get pregnant & have kids (without the risk of age-related pregnancy complications) which results in fewer children being born.

    • @MRkriegs
      @MRkriegs Год назад +1

      Yea they didnt mention most of this at all. Good info

    • @carlaritchie331
      @carlaritchie331 Год назад

      Good point. I remember reading about that study.

    • @GoJojo-lv6zi
      @GoJojo-lv6zi 9 месяцев назад +2

      Was it specifically done in America? Because there are PLENTY of countries that allow over a year (more than 52 weeks) of paid parental leave to mothers and fathers that I would imagine make spending a few early years in college to invest in oneself less impactful on childbirth rates. However, in America, there is little parental leave at all, little support for parents, huge focus on individualism & capitalism, etc. This country (and the culture it’s created) doesn’t care about its citizens. As a 27 year old woman I would love to start a family and live a good life (not necessarily a lavish one) similar to the one I had growing up (3 bedroom house with big backyard, public school + tutoring and after school activities, 2 paid for used cars, etc.) but that is nearly impossible now. Both of my parents have degrees as well. I believe the low birth rates have more to do with culture and policy than college education.

    • @tcgtpl
      @tcgtpl 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoJojo-lv6zi I’m not sure if that study was US only, but there have been other studies or news stories I’ve heard that looked at Sub-Saharan Africa & came to the same conclusion. It’s the same in every culture & society - as more options other than having kids are available to women, the birth rate trends downward. As for more paid leave to have kids, I think it’s Denmark that has 52 weeks paid but their birth rate hasn’t risen to replacement level & stayed relatively flat.

    • @GoJojo-lv6zi
      @GoJojo-lv6zi 9 месяцев назад

      My parents were both born and raised in Sub-Saharan Africa and they provided the life I mentioned above to my sibling and myself in America, after getting their degrees. My father has a bachelor's degree and my mother has a master's degree as well. I have plenty of educated millennial family members who were born and raised in Sub-Saharan Africa and still live there to this day who (both parents) have degrees and have children. The economy, culture, and capitalist/individualistic policies in America (crippling student debt, expensive or inaccessible healthcare, little work-life balance, and everything else I mentioned before) have a lot (almost everything imo) to do with the lower childbirth rates.

  • @o0samjames0o
    @o0samjames0o Год назад +6

    Childcare is by far the biggest culprit, I currently make ~$1,000 a week and pay $467 a week to daycare. It cost more than my mortgage payment.

  • @elizabethadahl
    @elizabethadahl Год назад +20

    The most expensive part of having kids isn't the material things I buy them. It's paying to fix their mistakes lol when they break something whether in the home or at a store, I have to pay to replace it! I never realized how big of an expense this would be before having kids.

    • @katemiller7874
      @katemiller7874 Год назад +6

      Don’t touch in stores should be the first thing you teach them

    • @kouleeofficial
      @kouleeofficial Год назад

      I’d like to say it’s both lol

    • @trenia3823
      @trenia3823 Год назад

      This is true. I no longer buy new items for my house. I check the community apps for items posted for sale. My children have damaged more than a few items. Lol.

    • @amandadugan4476
      @amandadugan4476 Год назад

      I have two boys. 13 and 6. They have never broken anything at anyone’s house or a store. If that’s your number one complaint, I’m a little baffled honestly.

    • @TH0KH
      @TH0KH Год назад

      The most expensive mistake my kid made is cutting her own hair and it cost 40 bucks to fix it

  • @TulipsNTattoos
    @TulipsNTattoos Год назад +59

    Don’t worry- Nick Cannon has the US’s population back on track.😂

  • @Kris-fq9bi
    @Kris-fq9bi Год назад +11

    My physician assistant brother and sister in law asked me to live with them for a few months when the grandma who babysat their 4 and 7 year old had to have quintuple bypass surgery. I mention their jobs so readers know they are ok financially. I work remotely so I was able to stay with them and take grandma's place for a few months. I'm a 43 yr old woman. I love my niece and nephew. When I tell you my experience living with them only reaffirmed my earlier decision to not have kids...... the daily fights about picking up toys and starting the bedtime routine....the screaming about uncomfortable seatbelts.....the silent treatment the parents gave each other when they got mad...... the fights over who was cooking dinner.... oh no..... I love my niece and nephew. It was with joy I fled back to my house and my single child free life when grandma recovered. I don't live alone. I live with peace and quiet. And they are lovely companions who never fail me.

  • @robby95036
    @robby95036 Год назад +49

    It's not just wanting to retire early, life has gotten a lot more expensive lately.

    • @sitka49
      @sitka49 8 месяцев назад +3

      Retire early? just for most they would be happy to retire at 65?

  • @74Voyeur
    @74Voyeur Год назад +13

    It's dangerous listening to George and Rachel on public transit. Many times I've had to stop myself from breaking out in laughter.

  • @nae4830
    @nae4830 Год назад +7

    It’s all of it. Rachel lists the parameters, yeah, that’s part of the reason why and they’re time expensive too. Not just money, but time.

  • @Imzadi
    @Imzadi Год назад +8

    More women started working. More households became two income. Higher household incomes meant bigger houses. The new standard had been set. Creating an increasingly harder environment for a one income household to survive financially. I’m a stay at home mom. My husband works. It has been hard. We have three children and are definitely not the norm but it can be done.

  • @dachicagoan8185
    @dachicagoan8185 Год назад +6

    Price of homes, costs of childcare, price of food and education. Add to that, toxic masculinity agenda in media and lack of opportunities or stable jobs. We have record debt and they wonder why we don't want to have kids. Then preference to women in divorce settlements since most marriages end that way.

  • @StHubert1
    @StHubert1 Год назад +32

    Congratulations, George! I am a Proud dad of 12 children. I would love to talk to you all about some of the assumptions that were voiced in this episode. Raising children does not have to be expensive. Unless you make it expensive. We have raised our family with just my income, while my wife, homeschooled all of our children all of her children (7 of whom are still at home). We are a very close family and do a lot of wonderful things together, in fact, our adult children still go on vacation with us. I would love to give you my perspective on how fulfilling and enriching raising a large family is. It really saddens me to hear that people don’t want to have children because they fear money, wealth or retirement. No amount of money will ever replace the joy of having children.

    • @catherinewetzel417
      @catherinewetzel417 Год назад +3

      🎯

    • @IA-py9by
      @IA-py9by Год назад +4

      Sadly to many people are selfish like the bible speaks...kids are a blessing!...its not always easy but God teaches us that it's not just about us...we are here to serve with love patience.

    • @thejakelegion
      @thejakelegion Год назад +2

      Very cool, StHubert. I'm one of 11 kids, myself. The oldest is 43 and the youngest just turned 20. You're not wrong. God bless your family.

    • @sackettfamily4685
      @sackettfamily4685 Год назад +2

      I'm one of 12 kids and while dad worked a lot as a self-employed man, we had a full childhood. All homeschooled in the country.

    • @thejakelegion
      @thejakelegion Год назад +2

      @@sackettfamily4685 that's awesome. All 11 of us were homeschooled as well.

  • @blakeharrison3972
    @blakeharrison3972 Год назад +31

    I’m 27 and I feel like a lot of people my age genuinely don’t have a desire to have kids but use money as the scapegoat for not honestly

    • @TH0KH
      @TH0KH Год назад +1

      That, but also people hearing others say that and drinking the fear Kool-Aid. Buying that it HAS to cost that much, they can't have a kid unless they can give it an upper middle class life, they need a purchased home first, each kid needs their own room, they need all the top end safety stuff, etc. More money makes it easier, but 80% of what people sell you as necessary isn't necessary at all

    • @ss0498
      @ss0498 9 месяцев назад +1

      Whatever the excuse is it's still their life and only they get to choose what they want.

    • @firefalcoln
      @firefalcoln 9 месяцев назад +1

      I could afford a kid. I have a house and make about 75k a year.
      But kids are not a high priority for me. I’ve held off on getting a cat or dog too because they seem like a lot of extra responsibility that I’m not necessarily ready-for. A partner and kids is so much more. 😆
      Perhaps I’ll start with my pet first in the next year or so and see how that goes.

    • @reesercliff
      @reesercliff 8 месяцев назад

      having kids in a studio apartment sounds like hell on earth@@TH0KH

  • @Jpmagictravel
    @Jpmagictravel Год назад +14

    🎉Congratulations George and Whitney!!!! God bless you on this new stage of life!!! ❤️

  • @Matt_in_TEXAS
    @Matt_in_TEXAS Год назад +14

    It's Thursday and time for SMH²!!! I'm soooooooooooo happy for Klan Kamel with a K!!! We had our daughter late in life- I was a month from 40th birthday when my daughter was born in August of 2010, she is our only kiddo. Looking forward to hearing about you being a dad. Great job as always Rachel, George & Team SMH² - keep up the awesome job!

    • @thekezzey95
      @thekezzey95 Год назад +5

      I don't think spelling "clan" with a "K" is very popular anymore lol

  • @ErnestinaObeng-zo2di
    @ErnestinaObeng-zo2di Год назад +12

    Congratulations George and Whitney!! This is such happy news. You’ll be a great dad🎉🎉🎉

  • @deborahjames3113
    @deborahjames3113 Год назад +9

    You guys make a great partnership! I enjoy the banter and humour (and yes, the mocktails as well!)

  • @danhohenstein5083
    @danhohenstein5083 Год назад +11

    Very interesting topic. A few things come to mind when it comes to the cost of children, so here's some unsolicited advice/tips:
    1. Cloth diapers (more expensive upfront, far cheaper in the long run, and it's easier if you start out using cloth diapers as opposed to transitioning to them)
    2. Work out a work schedule between you and your spouse so that you can raise your children as much as possible. It's difficult, but my wife and I only use a babysitter one day a week during the school year, since she's a teacher.
    3. Don't be afraid to tell your child no, meaning that when they ask for something or say they want something, they don't necessarily need it. It's nice to treat them occasionally, as opposed to the treats becoming everyday life and are expected. This can go into further topics, but trying to keep it strictly to the financial aspect of all this.
    4. Buying second hand/free items (George kind of touched on this one)
    5. Breastfeeding when possible
    6. Make your own baby food (and then you know what all the ingredients are too!).
    7. Fewer child "containers" which get bulky, cause stress, and stub toes. (I.e. pack n play, bouncers, etc.)
    8. Get your kid playing outside/it's ok to be bored (they're own creativity will be exercised, but trying to cater to boredom, just from a financial aspect, can get really expensive).

    • @johnmartin4641
      @johnmartin4641 Год назад

      The reason people delay having children is so they don’t have to disappoint those children and make them go without. I have 4 kids and I never wanted to disappoint them or make them go without.

  • @nadzmallari9749
    @nadzmallari9749 Год назад +21

    Congratulations George & Whitney! Such couple goals! Thanks for inspiring us!

  • @username9999
    @username9999 Год назад +20

    I would say yes, having a child affects pur financial goals. We haven't started BS4 because we are choosing to spend $400-$600 per month on therapies and appointments for one child with a developmental disability.
    Developmental disabilities are very common. Most people I know have at least one child with a DD.

    • @genesiscortez1931
      @genesiscortez1931 Год назад +1

      My husband has ADD. Highly recommend getting an English-speaking therapist in Mexico or another cheaper country. We save a ton!

  • @allisonmodaff5635
    @allisonmodaff5635 Год назад +2

    Congrats, George! You’ll be a wonderful dad.....you have the right mix of common sense, humor and kindness, qualities that will serve you well in parenthood!

  • @Your_pal_jsal
    @Your_pal_jsal Год назад +6

    I used to think i would be a good dad and wanted kids when i was 18 but then my brother had kids and im so glad i decided i dont want kids after that. I cant stand the screaming, when they get sick, and i like sleeping enough to not want to be woken up in the middle of the night. But congratulations to you and your wife george ☺️.

    • @carlaritchie331
      @carlaritchie331 Год назад

      It is good to know your preferences and the reasons why. Also any partner needs to understand and respect/agree with that perspective, so both can be responsible in achieving that decision. (No assumptions that you'll change your mind after a baby is intentionally conceived.)

  • @riseredeos
    @riseredeos Год назад +4

    my relative saved up to have baby. it needed to fly to another hospital and his blue collar insurance doesn’t cover the helicopter. baby costs 50K now.
    yeah, tell poor people to just have kids , it’s just a line item…… so simple lol 😅

  • @nowayeddamae
    @nowayeddamae Год назад +5

    Congratulations George and Whitney! Cheers to new adventures! 🎉❤

  • @DiegoMejia86
    @DiegoMejia86 Год назад +3

    The debt that the average American is living with is one of the reasons many don't want to start a family and can't afford a house.

  • @moneymattersforeverybody
    @moneymattersforeverybody Год назад +5

    Congrats George and Whitney! The joy you will feel having children will far outweigh any money myths :)

  • @BridgetnMichael
    @BridgetnMichael Год назад

    Congratulations, George and Whitney!!! I am so excited and happy for you two.

  • @heavychains
    @heavychains Год назад +13

    It seems very unfair to have children if you aren't financially well. If you don't have enough retirement to care for yourself in your old age you are putting that burden and expense on your children.
    It also just seems cruel. I remember the stress of money in my house. I remember using birthday wishes to wish that my parents were financially stable. To me that is not a fair or kind thing to do to your child. Don't have kids if you can't afford it.

  • @d.zyned2thrive584
    @d.zyned2thrive584 Год назад +14

    Honestly, don't have kids if you plan to have strangers raise your kid.

  • @SharonOnTheNet
    @SharonOnTheNet Год назад +3

    Congratulations!! Such happy news!!
    Encouragements (that helped me):
    1. The tools and strengths that helped you deal and solve problems in your life so far, are the same tools that you will use to solve problems with parenting when they arise.
    2. You have great family and friends to give you advice and help. Also, there are many resources in our modern world to help with parenting. You are not alone.
    3. A very good idea to keep in mind is that you don't have to be the perfect parent, you only have to be a "good enough" parent. When you make mistakes you appologize and move on. Kids are very resilient.
    Congrats again!!

  • @sherrijones9777
    @sherrijones9777 Год назад +23

    Kids don’t have to cost that much per year. We made frugal choices (loved reading The Tightwad Gazette books) and probably spent less than $5k combined for our kids first 5 years. Cloth diapered, breast fed/pumped while at work, coordinated our work schedules to avoid childcare expenses (I worked part time until youngest was 9). Garage sales for clothes and sundries, reused all items for second kid. FYI, we retired at age 47 and 52 respectively and are debt free including our house. Our kids are 21 & 24 now. It was a mindset that we both subscribed to…. I admit, he required some convincing, but soon enough was on board. 😂

    • @sherrijones9777
      @sherrijones9777 9 месяцев назад

      @noazucar519 We didn’t buy a home until we were in our late 30s. Because we scrimped and saved, we had a 20% down payment. Kids shouldn’t expect to have the same standard of living their parents do. That’s part of the problem. We always rented the least expensive house we could find that was in a decent area until we had been married 11 years. We always paid cash for cars and never took out loans, so our money went sooo much further. That’s the key!!

  • @h.m.536
    @h.m.536 Год назад +4

    Congratulations George and Whitney!🎉🎉 George, you’re going to be an awesome dad!❤

  • @kevinbm84
    @kevinbm84 Год назад +5

    I’m a big fan of this type of new content Ramsey Solutions is coming out with. Keep up the good work!

  • @theRetainer
    @theRetainer Год назад +10

    Don't let "not being able to buy a house" stop you from having kids? Where are you going to live then? Renting Ramsey's apartment buildings? My Goodness! No way a 15-year mortgage makes sense with the current prices so imagine waiting longer to get into a 30-year mortgage? You'll be paying on that until you're 75 years old. Prices have changed significantly since the 1980s.

  • @emmawilkins5755
    @emmawilkins5755 Год назад

    Yeahhhh!!! Congratulations to George and Witney, this news made me smile!! Wishing you all the best x

  • @caleboommining
    @caleboommining Год назад +7

    God forbid you have a kid that goes to the nicu when born boom 854k in debt my friend 3 months in nicu 2.3mil in debt. Don’t have a kid cause one thing goes wrong in that birthing room 100k plus easy in debt but nobody talk about that

  • @susanb9400
    @susanb9400 Год назад +3

    Congratulations to George and Whitney on your pregnancy, I'm so pleased for you both. ❤

  • @sha2596
    @sha2596 Год назад

    this is right at my speed! So happy to find your channel!

  • @erika1935
    @erika1935 Год назад

    Congratulations George and Whitney & families!! 🎉👶

  • @jmplese
    @jmplese 9 месяцев назад +1

    I've been somewhat rookie binging the Ramsey show the last few months, stumbled on this show recently, and have to say, I'm really enjoying it! You two are a lot of fun, while still holding intelligent conversation with good advice. Cheers!

  • @elizabethmiracle9361
    @elizabethmiracle9361 Год назад +1

    Congratulations to your new baby girl!! Thank you for sharing the mock tails

  • @steveclark5016
    @steveclark5016 Год назад +4

    I love my son, But my 2 daughters have always had my heart,and know just how to get to me., Congratulations George and Whitney.

  • @DBS472
    @DBS472 Год назад +2

    Having children you can’t afford or force taxpayers to take care of via food stamps etc should be child endangerment

  • @chrisoneal2718
    @chrisoneal2718 Год назад +2

    Congratulations George and Whitney!! 🎉🎉

  • @TGIFEveryDay
    @TGIFEveryDay Год назад +1

    OMG CONGRATULATIONS GEORGE & WHITNEY!!!!!💕💕💕💕💕💕. So excited for you both!!! Can’t wait to see the cute lil Kamel!!!! 🥰

  • @marsbar5366
    @marsbar5366 Год назад

    Congratulations George and Whitney! You’re going to be wonderful parents!

  • @galelamanilao8313
    @galelamanilao8313 Год назад +1

    Congratulations, Whitney and George!

  • @FrenchCruller03
    @FrenchCruller03 Год назад +2

    Congrats, George!! We had our first 4 months ago, and let me say, the lack of sleep isn't nearly as bad as everyone makes out. I honestly sleep better now than when I was pregnant lol.

    • @Amy-fk5we
      @Amy-fk5we Год назад +1

      Omg you’re lucky! The lack of sleep was the WORST for me 😂

  • @aliciaeasterwood
    @aliciaeasterwood Год назад +5

    I'm so excited for you George & Whitney!! Girls are so fun!!! 💗

  • @bettedavis9261
    @bettedavis9261 Год назад +16

    Rachel, is there any way you can convince your dad that babies and kids are expensive? I'm so glad you realize (and admit) they are. I love you for standing up to THE Dave Ramsey with regards to many issues.😊❤️

    • @katemiller7874
      @katemiller7874 Год назад +2

      Ya Dave should know that he raised 3

    • @jill9606
      @jill9606 Год назад +4

      @@katemiller7874xcept he never had daycare expenses considering his 3 kids had a stay at home mom. He’s out of touch.

    • @jill9606
      @jill9606 Год назад +2

      @@derek4412 “if you do it wrong” how?

  • @vinnietaganekurukuru8519
    @vinnietaganekurukuru8519 Год назад +1

    Congratulations George and Whitney.Blessings.

  • @Hiya799
    @Hiya799 Год назад +2

    Congratulations on baby #1! I appreciate y’all discussing the cost of childcare and medical care. I’m a nurse and my husband is a teacher and we have next to no family help (family lives out of state). I work on call and the weekend (which pays more anyway) and my husband works the weekdays. I work extra during holiday breaks. Our daughter is one and we want to have a second one soon but definitely are thinking about the financial implications. I think when our daughter starts going to school things will be much easier and we want to have kids semi close in age to help with that too.
    Can y’all do a segment where y’all do empathy scenarios?
    Like pull and income and life event out of a hat and break down how you would handle the situation?
    Thanks for the content. I would like to see more lower middle or true middle class advice.

  • @kelliconlan8133
    @kelliconlan8133 Год назад +1

    Congratulations, George & Whitney!!! 🎊

  • @rebeccaross1715
    @rebeccaross1715 Год назад +1

    Congratulations George!!! I’m sure you both will be great parents!!! God Bless you both!!!

  • @michellemurray4044
    @michellemurray4044 Год назад +1

    Sooooooo happy for George and Whitney!!!!!! Congrats!!!!

  • @GH56789
    @GH56789 Год назад +2

    Congratulations George !!!! So happy for you !

  • @celinereyes1185
    @celinereyes1185 Год назад +2

    “you can do it cheaper” is exactly the problem we shouldn’t have too and you immediately start cutting things off when you have one

    • @benthemusicalchemist
      @benthemusicalchemist 6 месяцев назад

      I don't have kids, so I don't really have much of a dog in this fight at the moment. But I do want kids.
      Anyway, I think the notion of "we shouldn't have to" definitely applies to some things, but my instinct is to push back a little on it. There's a, likely unintentional, assumption in what you said that value always goes up with cost, but that just isn't always the case.

  • @samanthabradley4699
    @samanthabradley4699 9 месяцев назад +5

    We haven't let money stop us from having kids, but it is a big sacrifice. It just depends on your priorities 🤷🏻‍♀️ we keep chugging along and love the babies God has given to us.

  • @annajohnson2496
    @annajohnson2496 Год назад +6

    Congratulations George! Just wanted to comment that childbirth in the US cost so much that I want to throw up thinking about it. I don’t know the numbers, but it might be one of a few countries that charge you for having babies. I had my first one in Japan, the whole prenatal and childbirth was subsidized by health insurance. The overall experience was very good. I had the baby and stayed 5 days in the private clinic with awesome food and child care all for $5000, $4000 of which was subsidized by government health insurance. Had my second one here in the US and was charged around $9000 for something that my body actually did by itself for 24 hr hospital stay, and of course they charge the baby too to charge more. It is so broken and it is really not a shocker why people don’t want to have a baby

    • @edwinroyal9734
      @edwinroyal9734 Год назад

      I agree that healthcare in America is expensive in you don't have insurance. But the truth is only four percent of hospital births in the US are uninsured so that is a small minority.

  • @kathymiglio8196
    @kathymiglio8196 Год назад +1

    Congratulations, George & Whitney!!!!!!🤗💝

  • @tonyavanveldhuizen3276
    @tonyavanveldhuizen3276 Год назад +2

    Yay! Congrats George and Whitney!

  • @valandrobgood7184
    @valandrobgood7184 Год назад +39

    George: millennials and Gen z are not having enough children to sustain AMERICAS population. I don’t know what that means, are we going to go extinct as HUMANS? 😂😂😂
    No George, there ARE humans outside of AMERICA.

  • @bethanyg153
    @bethanyg153 Год назад +1

    Congratulations, George and Whitney!

  • @antinormality
    @antinormality Год назад +1

    Congratulations Whitney and George!!!

  • @francoisnguyen6623
    @francoisnguyen6623 Год назад +3

    our mortgage payment is 50% of our take-home pay. If my wife stay home with a baby my income alone is not enough to cover monthly expenses. We stoped using CC. This is one reason why we delayed having a kid. There's also medical reason we're unable to conceive naturally. I'm in my mid-40 wife is in her mid-30. biological window is closing soon

  • @JG-np7qp
    @JG-np7qp Год назад +1

    Congrats George! First time dad listening! I first saw the RUclips Short and was confused about “her.” So I had to listen to the longer video to get the context!
    A little bit of advice: don’t rely on the internet too much, you and your wife are kiddos parents, not some random person online.

  • @cherilynclements3188
    @cherilynclements3188 Год назад

    Congrats George and Whitney! Exciting news!!

  • @sheak2426
    @sheak2426 Год назад +2

    Congratulations George!! I’m expecting our first 9/9!! We are having a baby boy! Super exciting but also nerve wracking

  • @sarahivilla9728
    @sarahivilla9728 Год назад +2

    Congratulations Whitney and George 💗 blessings to your family

  • @lizpleszkoch403
    @lizpleszkoch403 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s end of summer 2023 now! I hope that all went smoothly!!!! Congrats new parents!!

  • @user-ir5gb2qj8v
    @user-ir5gb2qj8v Год назад +4

    I’m smiling so BIG listening to this episode. Congratulations George and Whitney!!

  • @Tmonk3y
    @Tmonk3y Год назад +2

    Congratulations George and Whitney!!!!!!

  • @sharondube1101
    @sharondube1101 Год назад +1

    Congratulations George & Whitney!

  • @Sophie3647s
    @Sophie3647s Год назад +3

    George is emotionally intelligent which is why he would be a great dad regardless of gender, and just good person over all

  • @nattyg5493
    @nattyg5493 Год назад +2

    Congrats George & Whitney!!

  • @sorvoja
    @sorvoja Год назад +1

    Congratulations to George Kamel and his wife on their upcoming bundle of joy! Becoming a parent is one of life's greatest adventures, and it's clear that George is thrilled to become a dad. It's always heartwarming to hear someone speak so passionately about starting a family and the joy that comes with raising a child. I wish them all the best as they prepare to welcome their little girl into the world.
    Rachel Cruise's advice on family planning is both practical and informative. Money can be a major concern for couples considering parenthood, and Rachel's suggestion to pause the debt snowball and save up cash is a smart approach. Her insights are helpful for anyone looking to navigate the financial aspect of having children.
    All in all, I'm excited for George and his wife and wish them a happy, healthy pregnancy and smooth delivery. Parenthood is a wild ride, but I have no doubt they'll embrace it with love, laughter, and all the joy that comes with raising a child.

  • @peterzeller5736
    @peterzeller5736 Год назад +6

    I'm in George's boat. Less people = More happy people

  • @tressalewis7004
    @tressalewis7004 Год назад +2

    I’m so happy for you George!🎉

  • @bettedavis9261
    @bettedavis9261 Год назад +1

    Congratulations George and Whitney!

  • @NurseRowee
    @NurseRowee Год назад

    Congratulations to Mr. and Mrs. Kamel!🎉🎉🎉

  • @joshuamchargue9635
    @joshuamchargue9635 Год назад +20

    The biggest issue to me is the medical cost after the birth of a child. My wife and I are still paying on medical bills from my daughter being born and she is 2 now!!!!! That was with insurance!!!! The US Healthcare system is fraud and ridiculous.

    • @ASMR_With_Chels
      @ASMR_With_Chels Год назад

      How much did it cost? Mine was 5k tops

    • @donaldlyons17
      @donaldlyons17 Год назад +1

      @@ASMR_With_Chels It is safe to think at least 2K but the problem is their wage likely did not increase over that period to time. I say bull normally we run into issue when our buying power and wage don't increase over time.

    • @theultimatereductionist7592
      @theultimatereductionist7592 Год назад

      "The US Healthcare system is fraud and ridiculous" You mean the lack of universal healthcare, right? Not the actual science and technology itself, right? Agreed. Obviously. So, be smart: DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO HARM. Don't breed.

    • @AnonN-sr6uu
      @AnonN-sr6uu 9 месяцев назад +3

      You guys either make poverty wage or you don’t have insurance. Having a kid shouldn’t cost more than $5k.

    • @sitka49
      @sitka49 8 месяцев назад

      @@AnonN-sr6uu If they were poverty it wouldnt cost them a dime more than likely.
      The company I worked for didn't pay top dollar ,but they had great insurance in the beginning it was nothing out of pocket ( $75 month family, and single coverage it was no cost) - Before i quit yrs later they had for the health the best insurance you could get was ( $800 for family) it was deductible $3000 - ( after that it was 80% up to $10,000 then it was covered a 100%) after you meet the 3K deductible for a family -
      They had a high end deductible for the first $10,000. You had to bank $ in HSA out of ea pay period, and the company would contribute a % so you had $500 month for insurance and plus your contribution too, and on top of that all your other deductions. - Small peanuts if you have major incident ( heartattack) but I can see it that having a kid would set you back for a few years.

  • @RRETribe
    @RRETribe Год назад +2

    Congrats, George & Whitney!

  • @tinaboudreau3556
    @tinaboudreau3556 Год назад +3

    George you are about to add to the population.

  • @CristianLL
    @CristianLL Год назад +3

    I personally HATE Kids. Happy other ppl have them but they’re not for me 😅

  • @jmac2757
    @jmac2757 Год назад

    Omgosh, congratulations, George!! Great news!

  • @Fishsticks187
    @Fishsticks187 Год назад +1

    Another thing that often gets overlooked in this conversation: why would anyone want to have kids when you see a school shooting in the news every month, sometimes multiple times per month? Nobody ever thinks it will happen to their kids.