Body Horror Game Where A Boy Visits A Weight Loss Clinic & Loses Everything - Bad Faith
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2023
- Bad Faith is a horror game where a mother takes her son to a weight loss clinic and things suddenly take a very wrong body horror turn.
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I feel like the worst part of this is that you don't hear from the kid.
During this entire game you don't know if the kid was suffering, his mental health, if he was uncomfortable. Yikes.
The fact that he doesn't speak is very telling. He wouldn't dare open his mouth without mom's permission
I'm not sure what's worse, this situation being a case of "overbearing mom doesn't let her kid talk on his own," or he's never really meant to be his own person as far as storytelling's concerned (his mom does seem to see him more as a vessel for her to mold into what she wants, esp later in the game)
But, yeah. Yikes.
17:52
The only thing you can hear from him was his shaky breath and probably his scream later...
Edit: yes. I know,its the worker scream please stop telling me,i can see all of your comments.
I think it's pretty clear that the kid is suffering. Not once in the whole game is the kid even remotely happy. He always looks sad, nervous and scared, and he's often looking down in shame. There's even an image of him crying while his mother verbally abuses him.
You don't need dialogue to tell how a person is feeling. You can get that information from looking at their facial expressions and body language. That's what visual storytelling is all about.
I think you can guess he was :/
No, I’m sure he LOVED it 🙄
As soon as the mother was introduced, just from her face and first sentences, I was wildly uncomfortable. Talk about a sense of dread and a well written toxic/abusive character. Ugh, that's the real horror
Even SCP-682 would probably make a better parent
@@thaliacrafts407 I feel like it'd be less malicious than this woman, yes XD Torn to shreds is arguably less abusive than what this mom put her child through.
Same
Reminds me of my mom. Though not as explicit or extreme
@@pattykrabbies Even well intending parents can act harmful ofc. Hurt people, hurt people. As they say. I also have mother issues but not to this extreme. I hope you've been able to heal💙
Is nobody gonna point out how the scan shows the kid’s lungs reached all the way to his waist?
He breathes in 4k
I think it’s supposed to be all of his organs bunched up together and the picture is just blurred
I was thinking the exact same thing.
He was destined to grow up to be a Furry. We all know Furries have abnormal insides for large objects 💗
Yours don't?
the sfx of the child’s laboured breathing was so haunting.......... and the fact that the child never even got any form of personality or dialogue I feel makes this even more horrifying. we have no clue how he felt about any of this, whether he was afraid or resigned or resisting... he never even got a name :”(
:(
Kinda accurate to how fat patients are treated, sadly. They’re often dismissed and ignored
unfortunately that's how it tends to be with sick children. nobody asks or tells the child anything. i got a feeling the dev has experience with pediatric care...
@@funnyfroggiealert1816 it’s even worse here because he wasn’t sick, he was just fat
@@DeathnoteBB well, he ended up sick later.... if you can call eldritch decay sick
“My son has failed in every single venture.”
WOW! Mother of the year!
Let's applaud her! *slow claps*
@@shell_razor 👏😒
@@haydenTenno- thanks! I didn't notice lol
The parents are the ones who buy the food… when it comes to childhood obesity, it’s ALWAYS the parents. Not only that but binge eating for some people is an addiction to deal with your problems, and a common problem of kids is physically or emotionally neglectful or abusive parents.
sounds like a jamaican mother, tough love
I think the kid imploded mid-scan.
The screams were probably the researchers reacting to it happen right in front of them.
Or, them running for their lives from whatever he became.
Or the kid himself screaming.
Or all of them.
essentially, his own body crushed his insides, brain included. The explosions are happening where organs were, the torso and head. His body crushed in so hard the organs squirted out everywhere.
@@Kagira2006 I know.
Alright, how do I describe the aftereffects in prose? I need to know this for a story I'm writing where his ghost shows up.
17:50 it doesn’t seem like his body crushed his organs, parts like his rib cages don’t appear to have shrunken. Or maybe I’m wrong
@@agentburningbutters3655
The final scan implies that his organs splattered out, so I'm pretty cure he imploded/was crushed.
As a fat kid growing up in an "almond as a snack" household, yeah this is accurate. Every diet, every workout, every fad, every book, nothing works. Then, when you go into a doctor's office to get help, you're seen as taking the easy way out. There's just no winning with it
Yeah. I was a fat kid and now a fat adult, my body's a carbon copy of my mother's whose a similar size. The unnecessary mental and physical torture I endured at the hands of doctors who were supposed to know better is something I will never forgive. I avoid all weight talk now.
I'm so sorry yall both been put through this. I hope this game in anyway is healing.
@@miserablepumpkin9453 This. Because of doctors, and bullies family and at school. My mom snapped and put me on a starvation diet at 13, for a full year I got 700 calories a day. It screwed me up bad. Do I blame my mom? Not a chance. She was being tortured at that time too. It is the only time my mom has ever abused me. Now though I get super angry when people talk about my weight. Especially doctors who think I don't see my weight or use it as a cop out to treat me. I stopped trying to manage my weight because tending to my mental health takes a massive toll on my energy reserves.
ya there was a obesity summit in ottawa or at least some research from there where they are starting to say at what point are you just a bad doctor if you keep prescribing diet and exercise and the patients can't do it. That after a while then other options should be explored since it's obvious the patient can't stick to diet and exercise or its not helping them for whatever reason.
You just eat better and maybe dial it back a bit, its not rocket science.
[spoiler!] The x ray with all the screaming showed his head exploded, i interpreted this as though whatever force the mother worships was supernaturally sucking the substance from the kid until his head caved in and his limbs buckled because he essentually imploded
Woops, I looked at the comments and got immediately spoiled. Oh well, this kind of horror isn't scary to me.
@@Bloomkyaaa Meanwhile the rest of us are disturbed by almost how true to life this game's plot is.
@@Bloomkyaaa my bad fam, I added a lil spoiler tag
@@fenrirsrage4609 idk about that one, it's pretty supernatural...if you're talking about religious fanaticism or parental pressures, maybe?
@@fenrirsrage4609 It's a horrible thing to happen and very true to life in terms of toxic parental abuse and overweight issues, but it wasn't horrifyingly scary. lol
Bloody hell. It's rare for indie horror vids to make me uncomfortable but three minutes in and there's already a *real* sense of dread.
British detected British detected! I repeate we have located the British!
...no?
@@_.-. this game just isn't for you, buddy, go watch something about people eating fast food and cry and scream about that
@@Significantharrassment Your radar's a bit off, mate. I'm Australian.
@@FalselyProfound impossible Australia is a myth nothing more
i was surprised the doctor actually listed realistic weight loss goals. i remember a thin woman said she was gonna try to lose 18(!?) pounds over a WEEKEND and i was like uhhhh you shouldn't. bc otherwise she'd crumple like a capri sun.
That and the doctor immediately being startled at a five pound loss, then horrified at a twenty-pound one, was a nice change of pace from a lot of fiction works where they'd just be like, "Whoo, weight loss is good! =D"
@@CelticGuardian7 exactly! its like, woah, realistic medically safe expectations?? knowing that such a severe loss of weight could indicate extremely bad health outcomes (like cancer)?? where has this doc been all my life😍
well, not like i have weight loss goals but its a good sign.
@@gwennorthcutt421 Yep, makes me glad to see some research being done. =)
@@CelticGuardian7 i honestly loved that, the doctor actually cared about the kid and his health-not just about him becoming as thin as quickly and possible
Sorry to ask this on a comment but what is a capri sun?
"are we liable?" Is the most accurate line ever, painfully so. That entire bit was woefully true to life
This does oddly feel Junji Ito-ish in how it's depicted. The physical distortion particularly reminds of Uzumaki, with how faith in the spirals eventually destroys one's body. What a well done horror
it made me think of that one comic where a woman tries to share her "beauty" with her son - because shes able to remove her skin!
@@gwennorthcutt421 Is that the one where a mother skinned down her daughter until she reverted into a long baby?
@@justacatwithasadface2692 two different stories, the one you mention is "layers of fear", while the other one is "flesh-colored horror"
@@ConstrictorDevlin Thanks for the title, was an interesting read
@@justacatwithasadface2692 i cant believe i have to say that its the Other story of a mother trying to skin her child XD no, thats layers of fear; im thinking of flesh-colored horror.
I kid you not. The moment that mother started rambling about how God is answering her prayers and shaping the Boy into His image, the only thing going through my mind was "Red Flag! Red Flag!" all the way to the reveal. That gave me goosebumps I wish to never encounter again.
When we saw what was happening to the kid at the end "okay, what eldritch entity was she really talking about?"
Yeah, I panicked so much
@@zerrodefex The Dessicater 😢
The fact that she brought God into it when He would never allow something like this to make the boy lose weight is a major red flag.
Immediately though of cultist, skipped past evangelist and went right to fanatical cultist
Pretty sure the ending is the kid exploding. They hint at this when they say "it's like it's all being compressed" (or something like that). Which would indicate none of his fat is actually going anywhere, it's being pushed inward (yet somehow the story still says he loses weight, so who knows).
If that were the case, and i'm hearing it right, tube of toothpasted with lots of pressure. viola.
Given the actual image we're given, It seems the prayers were subtracting the fat from the boy in a vacuum fashion, pressurizing his organs. He was twitching and looked immobile in his last alive scene, as if the internal strain was overloading his entire body. Ultimately, this would create a pressurized packet situation in reverse, like how when a spaceship springs a leak, things don't get sucked into space, they get blown out. The splatters around the boy's corpse were probably his internal organs.
It's the inverse of explosion, it's implosion.
Basically the Mom asks for 'God' to grant her kid an instant anorexia so 'God' just give it to her and we see the result of that. The kid's flesh actually constricting the skeleton (especially ribs) inside that it had nowhere to go but bursts outwards.
The 'God' in this story which the Mom wish her kid to achieve is actually a some sort of flesh eating God or having a very thin image one that it manipulates flesh but leaves the skeleton intact creating the implosion.
Anyway, horror based on bad parenting like this scares me because I've seen some personally.
Rather than exploding it as more like imploding. They mendtioned the Capri Sun comparison and i took it more along the lines of him literally getting sucked inwards. like there was a small black hole in his body just sucking everything together. And the last image was his body just giving in and everything just breaking inwards as if he was crushed suddenly.
@@shinrailp1416 True, that's more accurate than my example, i'd guess.
The fat was being sucked out of the kid and his externals were what seemed compressed. Just picture it as sucking all the air out of a plastic bottle, juice pack or box and it becomes compressed that way.
It isn't often that a horror game actually makes me this uncomfortable. Kudos to the writer/developer!
Mate this is utter garbage, just the dev being fat and making a "game" out of it
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"My boy...handsome.."
Literal chills. She's so creepy. And honestly with the whole religion aspect, child explosion aside, this is very realistic. It's something I've seen actually. This happens to children who are overweight, neurodivergent, mentally unwell, disabled, lgbtq, or genuinely just different, all the time. Just replace "handsome" with "normal" and there you go.
Pretty much.
Have you ever actually seen the southern religious demographic?
They’re mostly at 2 extremes - but mostly bigger people with a few skin and bones people thrown in here and there
Child explosion? Lmao I’m sorry but the visual is too much.
Which is the one thing folks should *not* take away from this game. Just like any form of abuse, the mom isn't an example of faith, but selfishness and control. She cared about her embarrassment, not her son's health.
@@RanMouri82 Religion is about control though
That was disgusting, idk why or how they achieved such a terrible ending but they did and it was the last thing I expected. Well played game devs. Well played.
When his weight loss became exponential you knew something horrible was going to happen but I didn't expect that. I just wonder what happened right after that scan, did he implode into nothing?
@@zerrodefex it looks like his body collapsed in on itself. That's a horrific way to go. * shudders * No wonder the Doctor snapped.
@@everlastingdragon4520 whatever that mom was praying to... Wasnt whatever she thought it was...
@@starlight_studios8784 its an Eldritch God lol
@@GB-vw6kr seems likely. It did go slurp slurp to all the empty space in the boy
honestly the doctor and nurse did their best, they stopped treatment upon unusual results and tried to monitor the kid, it's just that it didn't end well either way... and although it's intentional and self-explanatory, the fact that the kid had 0 lines was just sad
I was expecting this to be an unethical experiment of some kind, but no. The doctor and nurse did everything they could, but in the end, they couldn't have possibly done anything against this 'God'.
What do you mean everything, they never talked to the child himself or tried getting child support involved. I get that not everyone is a fan of child support, but they could have helped in this scenario.
@@bertusoethier63 i think u mean CPS, child support is wat the absent parent pays
@bertusoethier fair point, i think it's more of a narrative device for the most part: they had the intent but didn't follow through, thus failing the kid due to inaction
@@onisama3528 pretty refreshing for it to not be a wild experiment tbh!
my only problem here is that, why did the doctor never ask the kid if anythings happening. you could assume that the mother told her kid not to say anything, but its not even shown the doctor attempting to ask at all. just something i found to be very odd
I think it was done on purpose by the game : the mother is the client, not the son. And I said client.
tbh if she did ask, the kid would have said his mom is doing nothing different, shes just praying
It's not that odd. My mother loved to exaggerate my issues and tell her own version of the story to doctors, getting me wrong treatments and diagnoses until I was like 20, because either nobody asked me or I was gaslit into agreeing with the adults.
I think it's on purpose. To make the child nameless, faceless, voiceless, mindless. "Just another victim", "just another God subordinate".
@@Frenchaboo oh God, I’m sorry that happened to you. I hope you’re in a better place now.
Umbrella when they pretend to be a weight loss clinic
Your right but god dammit
The doctors didn't have anything to do with it
Oh god, I feel bad for laughing, but you are so right, the poor boy did resemble a zombie for a bit. I feel terrible for laughing.
I think the fact that the boy never had any kind of personality or voice throughout the story really emphasize why the game/comic was made (I haven't read the comic so I'm not sure if he has a voice there, from the looks of it no), and not just because it might potentially go against his wishes or mental health. Despite the story being all about him, the child was never not a single moment actually important in anyone's eyes. The mother was doing these treatments and diets not because she loved her son, but because she felt judged by outsiders, and later, judged by God. She was happily willing to kill her son just so that she could reach her goal of having a "handsome" child and being seen as good by proxy. The doctors do not see the child as anything but a patient, eventually a test subject. Yes, the doctor begins to worry for the child, but at the end of the day she takes the mother's money and humors her (and depending on the route, she never worries for the child at all), and the focus is never really on the boy himself but on what is happening to him and the theological implications of it. The nurse is only willing to complain about the mother (she is the character who is closest to actually caring) but never once does she step in herself. The board at the beginning of the story only worries about how this eldritch death would affect their company. I'm not saying that all of the characters were terrible people or anything, but the life of the boy who died so horrifically was never once important. Had we seen any newspapers about the event, no one would mention the boy's life either. It would all be about his weight and his death, and that's it.
Hit the nail on the head. I do think that the Doctor and the Nurse sorely regretted their role, but the former seemed to have gotten her will broken by the incident and is now under the Entity's control. I'd have liked to see a bit of the aftermath, maybe the Doctor and Nurse grappling with both their role in the Boy's death and that fact that monsters are real, dangerous, and likely see us as their playthings.
Doctor: Nurse... please tell me that the boy is alive, that the Mom is a good parent, monsters aren't real, and that we all just had the exact same hallucination at the exact same time.
Nurse: I... I don't think that's possible...
I think you can validly say that everyone in this game IS a bad person. Lol. Except the kid of course
He does not talk more in the comic, I'd say in the comic he even has a worse of situation because at least in the game you get to see the doctor and the nurse feel bad for him and it's implied that he talks at least a little in the game, when the doctor makes sure the nurse always checks if he's comfortable. It's not much but the doctor making the nurse check that he's as comfortable as possible in the awful situation makes this a little less dark but I like it.
Horrifically accurate,
and sadly a real experience for many people
i do believe theyre all just bad people 😭
The fact there are actually parents who does these things to their kids is more saddening. All they care about is themselves and not the kids mental well-being. :'(
The kid would be a lot mentally well IF they were losing weight
@@TimeMasterOG maybe sure but not like this, not by starving them, insulting them or straight up abuse sometimes the kid isn't even unhealthy
@@TimeMasterOG If you do such extreme things for weight loss...no
@@justduro1527 i didnt say as extreme as this did i... reducing calorie intake and going to the gym op way to lose weight
@@TimeMasterOG I know you didnt say that, but we are talking about that.
Extreme ways.
Thats what nyax is refering to, thats what the video is about.
I mean its quite obvious, dont ya think?
Thank you so much for playing my game, Manly! It was my first foray into horror, and I'm so happy you enjoyed it :D
Your game was genuinely unsettling unlike most horror, I really enjoyed it!
I have one question tho, did the kid implode?
@@lorenzoskaa1783 I think he did. The last scan shows blood splattered around, and there is no head or skull.
This game gets under the skin with pure dread in a way I've never felt before. Serious props to you.
your game is so well done. it’s so uncomfortably horrifying because of the reality of what it represents
As someone who loves horror games and horror movies even moreso, let me tell you that this visual novel has made me more uncomfortable than the vast majority of games and movies that I've ever experienced. My sincere congratulations and kudos to you, I think I'm going to watch some cute cat videos now to try and get this out of my head.
towards the end I feel like it wasn't the mom's toxicity over her son's weight and appearance in control anymore, because we can see her crying like a lot but still smiling, like at that point i feel like whatever she was praying to took completely over her mind or something, bcuz we can note that even the doctor ends up believing in him too
The thing that killed the boy probably preys on emotional vulnerability; the mom was desperate and the Doctor probably had a mental breakdown during or after the boy's death.
I say they were probably possessed by the Eldredge deity
@@retro_guyy1015 yeah; I'm saying that the Entity uses the emotional vulnerability of its targets in order to (perhaps more easily) take control of them.
Yep it's another scp
Why is no one talking about how crazy the doctor looks while saying she knows the power of him-
Yeah, she's definitely been possessed.
@@everlastingdragon4520 probably
@@everlastingdragon4520 not possessed, my entire view on existence itself would be completely toppled too if I saw a kid magically implode with zero natural explanations, that’s just the face of a person who essentially saw God
@@thatblastedflyfish9515 I'm not saying she's possessed because she admitted that the supernatural is real, I'm saying that because of the insane look on her face and the WAY she says it.
I think she May infact Just have lost it. Needs therapy. Alot of it.
By all appearances, the kid actually implodes at the end. He doesn't explode, he doesn't transform into an angelic being, no. Like with the capri sun analogy, his frame is constantly sucked in further and further, untill his body can no longer withstand this mounting pressure, and it gives in, with the pressure shooting his parts out the other way. I think the best metaphor to visualize better what happens to him is that there's a rope between two walls, and that rope keeps pulling harder and harder on those walls, untill Eventually the walls can no longer withstand it's pull and they collapse inward, jettisoning out debris the other side.
god thats gruesome
18:13 Bro got Capri-sunned to death 💀
PAcific bursted
The real capri-son
respect the pouch
@@themosaicshow *RESPECT IT!!*
What a way to put it ☠️
The scariest part about this for me is I've known women like that mother in regards to using their faith to turn the worst parts of themselves into virtues.
as a fat person, the level of discomfort it caused on me was higher. a very interesting experience.
Same.
Time to look up brently and lose some weight
@@MyWatermelonz wtf.
@@aslammmmm181 ? Weight loss time bro!
@@MyWatermelonz nah im good, ive always struggled with that, i go frequently to the gym tho
god, on a real note, the way the mother treated her son is just too real. if he had an e/d, obviously it would get worse with abuse...
That "mom" shouldn't be a mother.
Saying your child is "ugly" just because they have some weight on them, is sickening. Some people just have extra weight.
If it is,or starts, impacting your daily life or your health? Then you should start to worry a little. Then you look for a change to help stick to your healthy weight. A safe change, please.
My grandma calls it her "battle weight".
Some people are built to be lanky and athelitc, and some are just more on the stocky side.
Nothing wrong with either, as long as you stay healthy.
i dont think the story is about weight loss.. i think its a story about a 'bad faith'
@@silvercandra4275 My boyfriend was ashamed of his weight because he wanted to play football and everyone looked different than him. I told him some people have an offensive build, which would be quick and light, and he has a defensive build, big and hard to get through. Nobody should feel worthless for their body.
@@axiphermiik4390 Nobody said it was.
@@spycenrice8108 nobody asked
I want to give the poor kid a hug he deserved so much better
i wanted him to get out of there asap and eat whatever meal he wanted
@@monbub If I were that doctor, the way I'd call CPS and foster that kid immediately
same@@chriiiiis
Ah yep, the mom’s behavior is familiar. My stepdad and mom kept pushing at me to lose weight, and I kept doing everything they wanted to lose weight, and nothing was enough. Even when I made progress it wasn’t enough. A parent who puts their image over their child’s well-being never deserved to be a parent.
I hope you are in a better place now and that you've gotten some form of counseling. That's a really rough thing to go through as a child and it's not something you have (or should) to process alone
It was literally so many people's responsibility to the child to contact CPS in this instance. The only positive note in this game is that the entire company is going to go belly-up bcause they didnt do so.
Unfortunately true to life.
For what, she literally did nothing to him. Either this is some weird entity or the treatments did something
@@MGrey-qb5xzI mean, she clearly at least emotionally abuses her son, she quite literally said "I can't even look at *it*" and I think that's grounds enough for an investigation, even without the supernatural stuff.
@@theflyingspaget kids saying their parents would beat their ass if they fail a test is more concerning and yet no one cares
The final scan made me think of the final panel in The Enigma of Amigara Fault. He definitely ended up as something more and less than human. Also it's almost like a miraculous version of sokushinbutsu.
I think He Just Ended up splattered across the Scanner table
I probably shouldn't have typed sokushinbutsu expecting an anime or manga. Now to find a way to sleep again...
they did put a skeleton in the scanning machine? those doctors are wild
I shouldn’t laugh but I did 💀
No, he imploded mid-scan
But yes I get the joke
As someone whose mother is rather vain and only picks at her weight all day aswell as anyone around her.
The mother in this game immediately disgusted me.
and she even had the nerve to call her son an it.
I actually appreciate games like this. Body issues amongst boys very often don’t get discussed and it is normalised to fat shame or body shame boys. Boys also suffer with insecurities and trauma it’s not just a thing that girls suffer with. Boys don’t often talk about their body insecurities because boys are expected by society to not show any emotion.
Sadly true, I do see how society Saw masculinity as a form of expectations that beyond the boundaries, You see, Boys are expected to be strong and not sensitive/emotional so, How hard guys actually try to be themselves, it just can't because the judgement and Society view. I don't like these kind of view based on genders
@@kyanartz I come from a very conservative area and unfortunately these gender stereotypes are inforced to the point where it is actually harmful. I know a number of men who are victims of abuse and s*xual abuse and they haven’t reported it because they don’t want to be seen as “weak” or show emotion. Society wants men to be confident all the time but they mustn’t be to confident or they are a narcissist… I also don’t like these views.
I have an eating disorder. The moment i saw mother's dialogue, i went "oh this is an analogy for anorexia i get it :D"
Her thoughts are exactly what's going on through my head. Every waking moment of every day. Even to the point of the distorted ideal of perfect body that seems grim to others, but beautiful to you.
To see and hear reactions of others about what's going on in my head from a side perspective is really refreshing, especially when it's in a form of horror. Maybe this is the switch that i needed to go into recovery. Thank you. All. For making, playing and commenting on this game.
I truly hope you get the help you need and manage to recover.
I hope you have a swift and pleasant recovery OP 🫂 Eating disorders can be so so dangerous, given how hard it can be to even tell you have one, and I genuinely wish you the best
And the god is also representing an ED, because we tend to romanticise it, make it look holy and like it saves us. I dont understand people who think she is literally just religious
@@tarantulasareterfs YES literally people refer to their ed as "goddess Ana" hello????
oh, I hadn't thought of it that way! thank you for sharing, and I hope your recovery goes well!
I loved how unhinged you played the mother.
I like how it plays on curiosity in a way, like how u just dont know what is ever really happening, and the ending just comes in a sort of predictable but unpredictable manner, and everything u thought was gonna happen (in the beginning) just sorta gets thrown out the window. they did a rlly good job with making it unpredictable. (sorry if this doesnt make much sense, im just kinda letting my somewhat incoherent thoughts abt this pour out)
Those doctors should be mandatory reporters of abuse, and the mother appears to be abusing the poor kid even at the start.
Unfortunately in real life many people who are obligated to help children let them fall through the cracks. Nobody in this game is innocent beyond the child, and that is an allegory to real life abusive parents and the apathetic system that lets them keep abusing their kids. Everything in this game is an artistic choice and was done purposefully. Not every character has to be good or likeable to make a piece of media decent
I am like only five minutes into the video but so far I do like how they never specified that her son is having negative health problems so I think it's purely imply that the mom is the only one that's really worried about it but honestly it doesn't really matter because regardless what body type my son is as long as he was mentally and physically healthy I would be happy
Yeah, this mom was a terrible parent
Why would you sacrifice your son so you wouldn't get side eyed in public 🤦
Yeah, the doctor remarks that getting the kid into healthy habits is fine but she doesn't like the mom's behavior.
After reading the comic this is based off of, i honestly wish this was structured differently, or at least didn't omit some of the information from the source material.
There are subtle changes to each scan that are hard to detect in a visual novel version. The images are side by side so you can see the changes more easily in the comic.
Some images and scenes from the comic are missing here and i wish they included them because it added more intrigue and made the story feel less static. There's an additional picture in the comic of the kid where he's even more emaciated looking and distorted, presumably changing during the final appointment, that i think would've really helped here.
The scream with the scan seemed excessive at the end, i would've preferred just some dialogue, but i understand leaving off on a creepy note, it was just a little hoaky to me.
I'd say it gets forgiven for not having a lot of source material, but this novel was made by the same person who wrote the comic. Drawing out a story means you can add more information, and they did, but I don't think it was quite enough to benefit it in a truly impactful way. The mom came off as a bit more hysterical in the comic for me, showing off her son's ruined body whilst beaming would've worked pretty great here in my opinion, especially since they already gave her more lines and information to share.
All in all, i appreciate some of the curiosities getting satiated here, but the comic just does it better by itself. There's not enough information being added by having a long(er) form version to make the story work for me. It mostly just feels like fluff work. There's a lot that's supposed to be left to the imagination, i just don't think the story works well in this format when the comic itself was already pretty powerful by itself.
I would like to find this comic! Where can I read it? I tried doing a quick google search but am unable to find the full comic.
yeah, i would be curious to see how the game plays out with your suggested changes! slow buildups with a horrific payoff make for a really powerful impact!
@@SquishyShadowHawk there is a pdf on cattrigger's itchio page! idk if i can link it b/c i think youtube deletes comments with links? but i will make a second reply and see if it works ;w;
I would disagree, by making it into a game form like this the atmosphere and horror are able to build up significantly longer and with more dialogue we get a better look into the mom's religious fanaticism. The comic itself is fairly short.
@@dondon8025 It's been 3 hours, I think yt have deleted your comment before we could even know it was there. Those kinds of restrictions are scary... or lazy.
This is the kind of body horror I want to see represented more. When are we getting Toxic Diet Culture: The Game where you try to live off of liquid meal replacements while your body eats itself?
Wait was 22
Agreed. I want more body horror ED simulators
No. Put the fork down
That 15 minutes of eating food is better and WILL be better building the factory
The factory must grow the factory must grow the factory must grow
then we need toxic mukbang eating videogame too.
"You shoud stick to being a doctor, and not a mother!"
Sorry, being doctor is all about concerning a change too quick in someone's body, ma'am 🤣
Man this hearkens to the worst of diet culture indeed. The way the kid is referred to more as a thing than a person - no name, no lines, not even "the patient" but "the child, the boy, my/your son". Even the most well-meaning of them being dismissive of the kid's existence as a person, more of a body who's a problem... my mom does that sometimes, and she never means ill, but the way she unconsciously buys into diet culture is harmful to her and people around her. It's so insidious that it's hard to realize just what's happening at times.
I was partially expecting him to have a Chad face at 17:50
_🤣_ BRUH
It’s rare that a horror game gets to me this much. As a fat person who has previously struggled with disordered eating, this game digs into a very real horror (anti-fat bias) excellently.
Yeah, I was genuinely disturbed by this 😅
alright fatty i get the game struck a chord but less burgers per meal
You mean others are the reason why some people struggle with their addiction to food
@@rebeccaconlon9743 When it comes to eating disorders that involve consuming a lot of food rather than restricting the food you intake - yes. Oftentimes, food consumption is triggered by negative emotions in these cases. Being made to feel bad about one’s body often just leads to more food consumption to cope with the shame.
That mother is terrible. I know that's self-evident, but I still feel like stating it for the record. (And the algorithm.)
The fact that the Doctor never thought of noting down the mother's behavior & the kid's symptoms and reporting them to CPS is baffling. Also, if I were her at the end, I probably would've started beating the sh*t out of her and screaming at her to wake up and see what's actually happening to her son.
Also, I have some thoughts about the game:
- The part about the boy's body cavity shrinking and the implication that it's not mundane, it might be that whatever "Him" is, it was feeding off of the boy's fat or something.
- Manly noted that when the Mom is talking about God and "Him", they almost seem to be separate. My thought is that they are separate and that the Mom is trying not to show her hand, or that she's using "God" in reference to "Him", not the actual Judo-Christian god. The big part is the wham line at the end where the Doctor says that she's convinced of "The Power of Him". Wouldn't one usually say "The Power of God"?
- I have a feeling that "Him" prays on the emotionally vulnerable. The very first conversation with the Mom makes her sound like a bad but fairly mundane parent. It's later on that it becomes more suspicious. She mentions during the first conversation that she's tried everything, and is desperate. "Him" might have gotten ahold of her after that first convo and twisted her into becoming its acolyte (perhaps even a prophet of sorts). "Him" likely got a hold of the Doctor after she saw the boy screaming, likely begging for someone, anyone, to make his pain stop; that would scar anyone. The final scan seems to imply that the boy's body collapsed in on itself.
Poor Doctor. * gives her hot chocolate, hot pot, and pays for her therapy *
Yeah, I agree with this.
They probably got possessed by the Eldredge deity and so they turned into acolytes of sorts.
Orrr, could just be the complete and utter shock of seeing something so inherently supernatural you can’t deny their existence anymore
You don’t need to be “possessed” to act traumatized
@@thatblastedflyfish9515 I'm not saying she's possessed because she admitted that the supernatural is real, I'm saying that because of the insane look on her face and the WAY she says it.
I have three theories.
First theory is “Him” might be The Devil or Mephistopheles, because as we seen in many iteration, we usually see the Devil taking advantages of those who are extremely desperate.
Second theory, “Him” is God himself, and the kid’s rapid weight loss and ended with the kid’s exploding is basically god’s punishment to the Mother for being abusive to the kid for so long, also the reason why God’s punishment is so extreme is probably because he start losing faith in humanity or something.
Third theory, the kid is basically like a mutant, like an X-Men, he was born with some kind of super gene, or have some kind of hidden special organ that absorb the fat from inside, and the treatment accidentally awaken his power and of course similar to many xmen, the kid control his power.
@@everlastingdragon4520 the “way” almost sounds like all she did was essentially said “there’s something beyond the veil”, at least to me? She DID see “his” power firsthand
This why you don’t make deals with the Devil. In the end he gets what he wants, and the person who made the deal gets more than they asked for.
being a religious person I honestly don't know what the Devs are trying to do here. Of course it wouldn't be somethin God would do yet the Mother references God and the capitalization on 'Him' is always referencing God; but this definitely looks like a Fae's type of deal so I'm totally stuck on what to think or what they were trying to achieve.
@@janette2422 Not a religious person, but I think the point was that it may have been some false deity. The mother's prayers either didn't do anything as some supernatural entity ate away at the child, or the mother's prayers ended up empowering the entity instead. Although it could have just as well been a criticism of people who take their faith too far, which I hope you understand can lead to very bad things.
@@PoisonFlower765 yeah, i would like to agree to the whole "praying to the wrong entity" thing.
The mom thought whatevevshe was raying to was God, but whatever it was certainly was not.
@@janette2422 I think some demon is trying to mold the son to its image.
@@janette2422 Her God is not the Christian God, but some malefic entity masquerading as God and preying upon her and her son's vulnerability.
This was... tense- It's so well written? I felt the nurse's fear and I feared with her, and the mother's dialogue was incredibly, incredibly chilling! Like wow, normally I don't get moved by these kind of things, but this one? It hit right and I'm horrified for the situation. Daamn, this is so good!
I was straight terrified by the mom 😅
This and the game with the dead kid wearing a pumpkin head are like the few games you played that made me incredibly uncomfortable. The mom being extremely religious and toxic toward her kid, the kid practically being skin and bones and that ending shot of the poor kid..........I just noticed how the last scan, the kid is doing the Jesus pose, along with the music....
Nah, whatever she was calling “God” isn’t whatever she thought it to be. God would never do this for sure, this is something that is pretending to be so.
@@aeshaahme3774 ah, that really explains so much about religion
Most people are following a demented perversion that is pretending to be love and compassion for all, it makes sense now
Poor dude got ruptured in the name of beauty standards
Man, this game both pissed me off and made me a bit depressed. I've met mothers like the one in this game though not quite as extreme.
I've started seeing some comments saying "just work out more" or "eat less" or "eat healthier" so I figured I'd clarify and add some personal experience plus experience going around.
Obesity is much more complex than you think. Yeah sure, most of the time working out and eat less may help some-but there are so many other factors going on and what causes it. It could be genes, health issues, medicine (i.e. for depression), financial and limited access to better food-it could be anything, even a traumatic experience. The process of losing weight is slow and losing weight fast is dangerous because it adds stress to the organs and can lead to much more health issues than the obesity itself (i.e if you resort to liposuction). That's why starvation and malnutrition is dangerous.
The truth is that it is easier to gain weight than it is to lose it. However, for skinny people, this can be the exact opposite. They struggle to gain weight and try multiple things, and still have no results. Media has put pressure on society on how we should look and how we look affects on others and how we should be aiming for perfection. In the old days, being fat was attractive. Then, being fat was an abomination. Now, in the present, there are acceptances and portrayals of all different body types. However, the stereotyping and bigotry still exists today and still happens. We're either too fat, too big, oh wait now our nose and ears are too big etc.
When people focus more on how big or skinny we are, we know they mean well-they just want to see us healthy. However, the message we get from that is our self-esteem and self-worth are only limited to our body image. When you tried every single thing and nothing works, the message we get is "we don't try hard enough" or we're deemed as a "failure;" and in the end, the blame is put on us. It wouldn't matter if we would have a super power. It wouldn't matter if we found a cure for cancer. We're just either too fat or too skinny and we're not worth anything else-and just existing on this world is a burden to others.
So for everyone out there, focus on being healthy. Just that. Losing or gaining weight to get to the ideal body type will not fix the issue. Trust me. I learned that all too well.
I'd hated to watch this video, but something like this I had to see it for myself. I know this was mostly a horror religious trope going on here, which was shocking to be honest. Most of the time these stories take a "reality" format though it did borrow from some real life experiences. Thank you ManlyBadassHero for keeping it unbiased.
This
Actually, the successful journey through weight loss differs from person to person and likely has many nuances attached to it. "Eat less" is not always an answer. For some it's going to work, for others it will only make things worse. There come many details into play: How frequently you are eating? What are the sizes of meals? What kind of food you are eating? Are there any underlying health issues that can affect your weight? Age, height and gender also need to be acknowledged.
What some people don't realize, a diet must not only meet the nourishment needs of the patient but also fit into their preferences. There is no benefit to a diet that one will not be able to upkeep for longer periods of time. There's also nothing wrong with small portions of sweets and snacks in a controlled quantity, as long as the patient has enough self-discipline not to go overboard with it.
@ferret absolutely agree. even if obesity is causing health issues, that's no excuse to make people feel unwelcome and unloved.
absolutely. A lot of the "advice" in the comments to 'eat less' or 'eat healthier' seems to assume drinking one soda will dramatically increase your weight or smthn. As someone who had binge-eating disorder and could finish a family-size bag of chips in a day without ever coming close to overweight, that's bs advice and assumes way too much about the other person. Metabolism and hormones and stress level all affect this to an extreme extent.
This also goes the opposite way. Speaking as someone who struggled with gaining weight after a traumatic event that caused my body and mind to lose itself in a way, I just struggled to regain weight. I only had one doctor,a therapist actually, who actually helped me, who didn't help me by telling me to eat more or to eat healthier- he got blood work done on me, the blood work showed i was deficient in many areas of nutrition and as a result I was just struggling to maintain anything i ate I ended up needing a medicine change and after some progress, I had an emergency that was predictable to have happened with my blood work where as a girl my period is unnaturally heavy and long to the point where I essentially bleed out all the blood I have. I passed out and went to urgent care and after some time my doctor/therapist made the recommendation to try to see a specialist for my periods to my mom. My dad actually was more supportive than I've ever expected during this whole ordeal. He was more than happy to get me professional help because it was what was helping me get better and actually start to enjoy my everyday life more. So after talking with a specialist we ended up using birth control to reduce my period to near non-existence. It took so long to begin making progress really because I had alot of roadblocks along the way but it just took one good doctor to start ruling through possibilities for my issue to really find what was going to help me. So much trial and error just to end up deleting my gender and getting bloodwork done regularly. I was sad that by the time I did have reached a milestone in improving my health as finally starting to get some of my blood levels corrected and have been feeling so much healthier, I found out the cancer diagnosis he received while I was starting to recover killed him. It was sad to hear the news when I told my current psychologist about him and the milestone I reached to hear the fact he had passed away only a month earlier... I was even more mad when my therapist started telling me what he did was wrong after I told her about my weight issues and to not try to convince me to try to change my diet to vegan cause a vegan diet wouldn't have made me healthier. Eating a "healthy vegan diet" wouldn't have helped me gain weight as I wouldn't be eating what my body needed. Eating more food wouldn't have helped me cause my body would have rejected it and given me a tummy ache. I hope one day there can be more health professionals like my therapist who instead of setting on one possible solution, looks at what is the problem and if it is a symptom of something else before making the claim.
I feel like the scans should have variated a bit more to show how the kid's insides were basically being vacuum sealed, since we just jump from decently chubby to just noodle size, it still delivered at the end, that's a hell of an image with the context known.
Also if you are wondering, the kid *did* implode, in the original comic from where this game is based on, we can see a final panel before they show the final scan, where the kid is so skinny he literally looks like a skeleton with skin, that long lower part of the scan's head is his lower jaw that deformed from all the suction, so we can assume the splash that is shown is his brain bursting.
4am... BUT TOTALLY WORTH IT!
HIGH FIVE LMAO SAME
Every night, at midnight the show begins. There's truly nothing like it. I stay up all night, skipping on sleep but it is well worth it.
It's been 3 years. Nothing make me feel anymore. Food have no taste, friends have no smiles. Sometimes, when I start dozing off, I see shadows in the corners of my eyes. Luckily, every night, at midnight, the show begins, and the night... it feels more real than day.
Damn this is sad as hell
I can kind of relate to the kid and this makes the whole thing scarier. Ive been "overweight" all my life and no matter what I did it wouldnt go away, lately been thinking about getting a surgery...
Surgery sucks, a lot of times it's just not holding a caloric deficit. Very rarely is it "impossible" to lose
@@faithful669 the same dumb shit as everyone else blathers about, everyone thinks they know better than the person who went through 15 years of trying to lose weight in any way possible and talked to dozens if not humdreds of professionals
Why put quotes if it's the truth?
Try working out instead..,
@@user-cherry7 Because overweight is a concept that is often generalized. Nobody’s weight should be standardized, everyone is different
Holy shit, it took me a moment to realize what happened, but essentially, his body crushed in like a soda can at the moment of the scan. A soda can full of raspberry jam, with the jam being his organs.
I would say it's more like if you put a steak in a bag and repeatedly vacuum sealed it until it implodes.
this is actually insane.
this was hard to watch. I was sent to different weigh loss programs as a child and teen and most of them did more harm than help. it never felt like it was about as as individual people. it felt like we were supposed to finally be normal. when asked why we wanted to lose weight most answered something like either "my parents said I have to", or "I don't want to be bullied anymore". we never got taught to prioritise health. no one cared that some of us were on the verge of developing eating disorders to lose weight faster. of course anything else that happens in the game can't be compared to my experiences, but just the vibe... felt weirdly familiar.
I'm thankful for the small but on point commentary you provided. thankful that this takes the topic seriously.
The boy: *loses all weight*
His mother: HE'S SO HANDSOME...
“He’s so fat no matter what I do ! I just want him to be handsome !” Says the abusive mom who probably gave him an eating disorder to begin with
18:06 “almost there, doctor. almost there.”
honey you’re well past that milestone
bro collapsed in on himself like a neutron star 0_0
That's what I was expecting to happen in that final scene rather than the cut to credits.
If a child is overweight it is the parents fault, weight loss is slow, and needs to be adjusted to everyone´s needs so that it´s done in a healthy and slow way, it shouldn´t be torture to change your diet and learn what works for you, it´s a hard route but a slow one for a reason, and being overweight doesn´t make anybody horrible.
Holy shit, I had this playing on my TV like I do with a lot Manly's vids. The loud ass music from the bass speaker, mixed with the boy's skeleton, and the screaming. That gave me the worst shiver down my spine.
You too watching manly on tv? It's a routine for me almost every night XD
@@JillofTrades yea, his vids make for some of the best background noise
Maybe, in the bad end she starts saying things like "him" because without affirmation she becomes more desperate and she gets the attention of something else.
I watched this video. I stared blankly at a wall. I jumped to my feet, dive tackled my freezer door, and scarfed all the ice-cream I found. Excellent job, on both the game developers, and the play-through.
She just can’t let his ass be fat? I mean being fat can’t be that bad, and she really only cares about herself, there’s nothing wrong if he’s fat, it’s gotta be better than THIS at least
i mean there can be a lot of lasting health problems tbf
Because obesity is dangerous to your health 💀
@@b1oodgu1sANGEL14 Being fat doesn’t necessarily mean you’re obese
So sick of how "body positivity" went from cheering up disabled people to giving obese women an excuse to not be healthy and has progressed into "how dare you not be fat" with crazies now accusing those who exercise of being "fatphobic".
@@mothgirl0512 it will be if you don't reign in it especially when young, it only gets worse as you get older and your metabolism crashes. That boy looks like he's on a crash course to diabetes in his twenties, regardless of how horrible his mother is in the story.
God damn. I haven't watched halfway through the video and I am already so pissed at that mom.
She needs her son taken away. He's going to be scarred for life!
Edit: Holy mother of christ what happened to that child?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!???!!!
3 minutes in and this indie game makes my skin crawl holy hell
Perfect image as in DEAD. Jeez, this was a scary one, I want a sequel to see what else the mom's "faith" will lead to.
The wrath of a narcissistic mother.
As someone who is overweight this game terrified me. The mom especially.
Same and im prob around the same age as the kid or something
Yeah, I was genuinely uncomfortable watching this.
kid's scans look weird but i can't tell if it's because i don't know how bodies work, the game maker doesn't know how bodies work, or it's just meant to add to the horror.
actually thinking about it more something a lot weirder than just making him thin is going on. he didn't just whither away at the end- the image and sound effect make it seem like he was somehow squeezed to death. like something was simultaneously sucking out the fat while also shrinking his skin, and in the end when there was no fat left it just squeezed his bones and organs.
I'm pretty sure the plot twist of the game was he wasn't being made skinny to the point of health, he was being made as skinny as the corpse of Jesus on the cross, hence the ending, or at least I think that's what was happening?
Imagine losing weight by going to a clinic or a gym. I just remove excess weight manually... with a chainsaw.
I've just never put much on, since I'm on a healthy diet of human souls, with the occasional sip of the blood of my enemies.
@@silvercandra4275 only occasion sips? Wow good discipline
I use beauty water! Then I mold my flesh with it to create new organs. (look up the movie/manhwa for beauty water)
@@SlamDunkPyro just photosynthesize,it's not "that" hard
GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD! I HAVE LOST WEIGHT!
ALL SUGAR IS GONE... MANUALLY!
I NEED TO LOSE TWENTY MORE POUNDS, OR I'LL NEVER BE PRETTY!
geez mom its 2023. being pudgy is basically legal now.
The moment the mom went on about how "she" felt about her son's weight I immediately started screaming "CALL CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES"
This is too realistic it's making me uncomfortable... great work on the developer's part!
it be like that one junji ito story with the girl who gets younger but more grotesque as the mother peels off her skin.
i feel like we dont get enough horror games about the very real horror of fatphobia and the lengths people will go because of it-- especially in regards to children. this is so cool
additionally this is a really interesting intersection between fatphobia and christianity on the mom's part. its something that i've never really seen before and it makes this game so much more original
I was fairly confident the mother was just starving him at the start, but unfortunately that would have been better than what was actually going on here. This was some good body horror, the right amount of creepy given its runtime.
I was worried at first, people get weird about weight changes, but I think they did good here. The doc had reasonable expectations and the end was creepy. It worked out well. Actually kinda reminded me of becks comics.
Knew something weird was going on when we asked if the boy was confortable but the actual boy was never called to confirm
Boi with that kind a mom no wonder the kid was a little chonk. Carrying all that emotional weight-
underrated comment
Plenty of people live under stress, but they dont make themselves into hamplanets because of it
@stillborn wow you seem so nice and sympathetic 😐
@@_stillborn touch grass. Go outside, take a breath of fresh air and talk to some people outside the internet. Nothing good comes from being unnecessarily nasty.
i call my dog chonk 💀
Board members - "explain yourself!!!"
Doctor - "I-"
Board members - *Immediately interrupt, multiple times"
Yep, the true horror of being a woman working in medicine (I was an EMT-A) 😂
I think the worst part of the board scene is the existential crisis the Doctor is going through. She's a self-admitted woman of science who believes in hard facts, study, and evidence, and she just found out that the supernatural is real in the worst way possible.
Ok, but I'd say it makes sense to be in a hurry for answers here.
More of a profession than a man/woman issue i believe.
@@froglegstastebestsalted They have to let her speak. She basically just like took a break and they started yelling "EXPLAIN IT QUICKLY-" she can't scream over them.
Boy legit took Die-yet pills until he died. Guess it was avoidable if only the mom wasn't a lunatic.
Edit: why did the auto correct changed avoidable into adorable?
Auto correct is drunk today.
Wow, you're very good at narrating the dialogue. Even without changing your voice much, you manage to give everyone character.
It's 6 minutes in and I'm already 99% sure the kid would have been absolutely fine if the mother stopped freaking out, started treating her son like a person and got some help.
5:46 "Pray the gay away", for anyone unfamiliar that was and I think still is a not too uncommon reaction to gays that is being referenced there.
If she was Asian Mom she wouldn't be too dramatic. We love chubby kids it resemble abundance.
In German there is a great saying, "Seine Sorgen in sich hineinfressen." Kind of like "Devouring one's sorrows." It means that you suffer and just quietly suffer. You don't talk about your pain, you take it in deeply and there it can fester...and it may explode at some point.
The kid doesn’t even look, like, obese. He just fat. This mother just wants her son to being aesthetically pleasing even if it cost her his health
No, he was definitely morbidly obese. Which is still healthier than, you know, ordering slim fast from an Eldritch god.
@@thaliacrafts407 HELP THE SENTENCE ORDERING SLIMFAST FROM A ELDRITCH GOD IS SENDING ME
Good ending: The doctor calls Child Protective services, and the boy was taken away from his mother and adopted by his saner, kinder and more loving uncle and his husband (he was disowned by his family for being gay). His uncle stops the treatment and introduces him to a healthier, more athletic lifestyle, and provides him with positive encouragement and unconditional love. The boy continues to lose weight, this time much more slowly and healthily, and becomes thin and fit, and most importantly healthy, and stays that way for the rest of his life. His new guardians are super proud of him. His mother throws a shit fit that he is now being raised by a gay couple
I absolutely ADORE your idea!
If only this actually happened...
Consolation ending: If you pick certain dialogue options, you can end up talking to the Boy. If you choose to comfort him, the Boy still dies, but he later approaches both the Doctor and Nurse and makes it clear that he doesn't blame them one bit for what happened to him, but forgives them anyway.
Then he goes to his mother and tells her that every roasting that Jesus delivered to the Pharisees applies to her too.
"Him" tries to attack the Doctor and the Nurse, but the Boy takes after Jesus again and drives him away with a whip, going "Bodies are temples and you're not destroying any more of them!"
Finally the new upload is here I swear I've been thinking about it all night 😭