Excellent! That's not bad! .50 cal (12.7 mm) Steel Ball @ 25' feet. Using Metal Pan. I see the damage. I believe less than 20' feet we might see some holes. Very good! It works! It's Lethal. Rubber Balls are enough!
Sweet mate good report. So, I take from this, and this vid was hard to find, I take that the 7.5j version (basically the only legal version in the UK) is that for max impact and minimal misfire the steel/rubber compound are best (obvs I’m not saying they compare to a 11j or 30j destricted version or a real 22 etc) but better than nothing and better than rubber balls and better than a .177 bb airgun, cheers
Like I was told in the military, a weapon is only a weapon if used as a weapon. Add the AEA HP SS to the pot bruh .22/.25/.30, all three are lethal enough to take down a coyote with ease from 50 yards away and their semi auto... Nice hitters you got tho💯
I just got a modified hdp50 from Jon at alternate arms self defense. I read someone reccomended Adler .50 steel ball bearings. They weigh 8.3grams each. Is this ok to use on my modded hdp50? Will it give higher joule output? Currently I'm using rubber steel balls that weigh 2.6grams each
I'm honest opinion, I had my cousin to shoot me with it within 15 to 10 feet range. It stung for some time and I had a swelled spot. It wasn't designed in mind to put dents in aluminum or steel. Until you get shot with it. You can't say it's not a home defense. It definitely is. Once you'll hit with it stock you'll agree removing the valve block really isn't needed.
Just testing what works and what doesn't. The point here was if you are going to be using the heavier projectiles, the power does need to be adjusted for it. Thanks for watching! 💥 💥💥
Nah bro lol at my channel I took 4 shots from this and I would still keep going if I really wanted to I don't trust it as a self defense weapon without any modifications to it.
Yeah but not in the face at 2 metres bro, how could you even walk towards someone who’s firing at your face lol you’d be covering up or turning away unless you have balls of steel and can just stroll directly into incoming shots, so if covering up your open to the butt of the gun lol steel bbs your in trouble no doubt
I think the hdp 50 compact got 8.9 to 10 joules on 1gram rubber balls, which is 420 on first round and like upper 300s fps on rounds after, the the umarex pepperballs weigh.08 gram, thats flys close in fps as rubber, i seen a video on dis regular hdp 50 and some guy shot his girlfriend in back that had a security gaurd jacket on, because he does security somwhere, but she aint feel a thing so that tells me the gun is only 7.5 joules or lower if that, it needs to be 11 joules black version and it will do better or even with more joules if made even stronger, on the compact i only seen 2.8 grams fired out of mod version like 11 joules or more and gets like mid to lower 300s im, assuming on factory version of compact its like only mid 200 fps with aluminum balls.
dude you should upgrade the hip because those ammo are way to heavy for 7.5joules. because the 7.5j really suck but you can upgrade it to shooting 20joules. the 7.5 have no place for home defense. only souped up markers might help in self defense
My detailed comments in here got deleted twice. Not sure why. Anyway, what I said was that I have both aluminum rounds, and what seller "SSR" on Amzn. calls "Rubber-Steel Balls." On my modded HDP 50 I'm getting 400 FPS with the "Rubber-Steel Ball" ammo. SSR says the rounds are: 50 caliber, made of very strong 50% rubber, uniformly mixed with 50% steel powder. Rounder and much heavier than comparable rubber balls on the market. One single ball is around 2.7 grams. So far these rounds have functioned precisely and without incident. You get max velocity and a very hard punch. I'm pleased with my aluminum rounds too. And because in 50 cal. the round is very light, you get in the high 400s FPS! Bottom line: The two compared, for self defense I'm preferring SSR's rubber-steel ball rounds.
@@thellc24-7 hi yes. There are a few videos. People say take it out but i did not. If you take the pistol apart in the rear is a valve block. It has a pin hole for the air. I drilled my out to 3/16 and now it's a power house. You can shoot 1 6 rounds mag at full power. Then the 2 nd loading is less but still recommended. I use rubber balls and glass.
You would have to be close quarters for the steel balls to be effective deterrent due to the weight. 25 feet is the maximum effective range for them to be of any effect but I definitely wouldn't want to be inside of 10 yards of those steel ball still🤣 we are talking .50 fire or no fire that still is serious knock. At some point I think I will be removing my valve block and going with aluminum ammo and a tite bore barrel not to mention dieseling and I don't think ANYBODY would volunteer to be touched by that.
Kenn, absolutely you MUST remove the valve block. That will almost double the FPS of rubber/steel rounds. Also, his shooting distance was too far. Most self-defense situations are indoors, at a distance of 10 to 20 feet (that's what I'm calculating for my needs).
I did remove the block. The HDP-50 is now broken because of it, so I won't be doing that again. I use 25 feet for my standard because it is the length of the hallway from the living room to my bedroom.💥💥💥
What brand Co2 did you use? because i just found out that crosmans are now selling the weaker Chinese ones with the skinny neck. Looks like only Umarex & Gamo (Germany/Spain) are selling the good ones from US factory.
Last ones I got, which are the ones used here are crossman. I got a 40 pack from that one store that sells everything. But today I saw a 30 pack of Umarex at the feed store for 12.99. I was not aware there was a difference. So now that you mention it, I will have go back for them. Thanks!👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾
The way it is at 200 fps, it’s just a paintball gun. We need be honest and not put people in danger thinking they can trust this. You need at least 500 fps to break and spray pepper balls enough, and also give pain stopping power to somebody. You’re better off with a 4.5mm steel BB gun and shooting someone in the face at this point.
You can mod this gun to over 20 joules without buying a kit all you got to do is remove the valve block it's easy the video on how to do it is on RUclips you don't get but about 10 powerful shots but it'll shoot riot balls 500 fps and you can still shoot pepper balls after modding. You should mod it then redo this video
Excellent! That's not bad! .50 cal (12.7 mm) Steel Ball @ 25' feet. Using Metal Pan. I see the damage. I believe less than 20' feet we might see some holes. Very good! It works! It's Lethal. Rubber Balls are enough!
Somebody's lady is going to be pissed that you ruined her biscuit pan! Thanks for video
Hahaha. Thanks for watching 💥💥💥
Sweet mate good report. So, I take from this, and this vid was hard to find, I take that the 7.5j version (basically the only legal version in the UK) is that for max impact and minimal misfire the steel/rubber compound are best (obvs I’m not saying they compare to a 11j or 30j destricted version or a real 22 etc) but better than nothing and better than rubber balls and better than a .177 bb airgun, cheers
You're correct. It is better than nothing. Especially if you aren't allowed to have anything more useful. Thanks💥💥💥
Like I was told in the military, a weapon is only a weapon if used as a weapon. Add the AEA HP SS to the pot bruh .22/.25/.30, all three are lethal enough to take down a coyote with ease from 50 yards away and their semi auto... Nice hitters you got tho💯
Yes. I plan on getting either the .25 or the .30. It is on my list. Thanks for watching! 💥💥💥
@@thellc24-7 I subscribed as well. Keep em coming bruh💯
Sig Sauer Virtus . 22 w/ Hornet pellets
@@montizzlefoshizzle7131 thank you. More to come for sure!💥💥💥
@@angelsdevils2956 I have the virtus. Just not the hornets...yet💥💥💥
I just got a modified hdp50 from Jon at alternate arms self defense. I read someone reccomended Adler .50 steel ball bearings. They weigh 8.3grams each. Is this ok to use on my modded hdp50? Will it give higher joule output? Currently I'm using rubber steel balls that weigh 2.6grams each
I love the rubber steel. If you want a solid ball bearing, get size .492"/12.5 mm. It's what I use since my most recent mod 💥💥💥
I'm honest opinion, I had my cousin to shoot me with it within 15 to 10 feet range. It stung for some time and I had a swelled spot. It wasn't designed in mind to put dents in aluminum or steel. Until you get shot with it. You can't say it's not a home defense. It definitely is. Once you'll hit with it stock you'll agree removing the valve block really isn't needed.
Just testing what works and what doesn't. The point here was if you are going to be using the heavier projectiles, the power does need to be adjusted for it. Thanks for watching! 💥 💥💥
Nah bro lol at my channel I took 4 shots from this and I would still keep going if I really wanted to I don't trust it as a self defense weapon without any modifications to it.
Yeah but not in the face at 2 metres bro, how could you even walk towards someone who’s firing at your face lol you’d be covering up or turning away unless you have balls of steel and can just stroll directly into incoming shots, so if covering up your open to the butt of the gun lol steel bbs your in trouble no doubt
I think the hdp 50 compact got 8.9 to 10 joules on 1gram rubber balls, which is 420 on first round and like upper 300s fps on rounds after, the the umarex pepperballs weigh.08 gram, thats flys close in fps as rubber, i seen a video on dis regular hdp 50 and some guy shot his girlfriend in back that had a security gaurd jacket on, because he does security somwhere, but she aint feel a thing so that tells me the gun is only 7.5 joules or lower if that, it needs to be 11 joules black version and it will do better or even with more joules if made even stronger, on the compact i only seen 2.8 grams fired out of mod version like 11 joules or more and gets like mid to lower 300s im, assuming on factory version of compact its like only mid 200 fps with aluminum balls.
dude you should upgrade the hip because those ammo are way to heavy for 7.5joules. because the 7.5j really suck but you can upgrade it to shooting 20joules.
the 7.5 have no place for home defense. only souped up markers might help in self defense
Watch the other vid. Thanks!💥💥💥
Where we can buy this gun plsss replyyy
Go to mcsus.com & use code LLC24-7 for 10% off 💥💥💥
Awesome dents, this is why I prefer my HDRs, easier to load!
I totally agree 💯!💥💥💥
@@thellc24-7 thanks bro
would you recommend .50 cal aluminum balls for this instead?
Maybe. I have some sitting in my cart. I may try them out.👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾
My detailed comments in here got deleted twice. Not sure why. Anyway, what I said was that I have both aluminum rounds, and what seller "SSR" on Amzn. calls "Rubber-Steel Balls." On my modded HDP 50 I'm getting 400 FPS with the "Rubber-Steel Ball" ammo.
SSR says the rounds are: 50 caliber, made of very strong 50% rubber, uniformly mixed with 50% steel powder. Rounder and much heavier than comparable rubber balls on the market.
One single ball is around 2.7 grams. So far these rounds have functioned precisely and without incident. You get max velocity and a very hard punch.
I'm pleased with my aluminum rounds too. And because in 50 cal. the round is very light, you get in the high 400s FPS!
Bottom line: The two compared, for self defense I'm preferring SSR's rubber-steel ball rounds.
Can you link the SSR rubber steel balls please? Thanks!💥💥💥
11-13 joules version GEN 2 is stronger with steel balls.
I drilled my pin hole valve block out to 3/16 of an inch and now it is a cannon. I shoot glass balls..
Nice! So you left the block in and just made the hole bigger?💥💥💥
@@thellc24-7 hi yes. There are a few videos. People say take it out but i did not. If you take the pistol apart in the rear is a valve block. It has a pin hole for the air. I drilled my out to 3/16 and now it's a power house. You can shoot 1 6 rounds mag at full power. Then the 2 nd loading is less but still recommended. I use rubber balls and glass.
@@kingtitan2051 have you tried shooting pepper balls out of it? I wonder if they would explode
@@kingtitan2051what size marbles do you use?
You would have to be close quarters for the steel balls to be effective deterrent due to the weight. 25 feet is the maximum effective range for them to be of any effect but I definitely wouldn't want to be inside of 10 yards of those steel ball still🤣 we are talking .50 fire or no fire that still is serious knock. At some point I think I will be removing my valve block and going with aluminum ammo and a tite bore barrel not to mention dieseling and I don't think ANYBODY would volunteer to be touched by that.
Do that, and it's game over for sure!👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾
Nice
@@angelsdevils2956 thanks!💥💥💥
Kenn, absolutely you MUST remove the valve block. That will almost double the FPS of rubber/steel rounds. Also, his shooting distance was too far. Most self-defense situations are indoors, at a distance of 10 to 20 feet (that's what I'm calculating for my needs).
I did remove the block. The HDP-50 is now broken because of it, so I won't be doing that again. I use 25 feet for my standard because it is the length of the hallway from the living room to my bedroom.💥💥💥
Will using steel balls on a stock HDP 50 damage it ?
Absolutely not. Just poor performance 💥💥💥
@@thellc24-7 will it affect the detent ?
What brand Co2 did you use? because i just found out that crosmans are now selling the weaker Chinese ones with the skinny neck. Looks like only Umarex & Gamo (Germany/Spain) are selling the good ones from US factory.
Last ones I got, which are the ones used here are crossman. I got a 40 pack from that one store that sells everything. But today I saw a 30 pack of Umarex at the feed store for 12.99. I was not aware there was a difference. So now that you mention it, I will have go back for them. Thanks!👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾
@@thellc24-7 That's a really good price. The bad Crosmans ironically say ''Air power to the people'' on the new box.
Take the valve block out catch you on your next video big difference
I was wondering about this
If you install the "homedefence24" tuning barrel the steel balls will NOT fit anymore.
Steel Balls are a waste if time to be honest! Thanks!💥💥💥
The way it is at 200 fps, it’s just a paintball gun. We need be honest and not put people in danger thinking they can trust this. You need at least 500 fps to break and spray pepper balls enough, and also give pain stopping power to somebody.
You’re better off with a 4.5mm steel BB gun and shooting someone in the face at this point.
In stock form, the only thing this is ideal for is slinging pepper. To be an effective stopper, it needs more power. Keep watching the channel💥💥💥
Che biglie sono d'acciaio?
These are 1/2 inch steel ball bearings. Thanks 💥💥💥
Subscribed. Just did a similar video, good content man. 👍
Thank you so much man! I watch your vids all the time. You convinced me to buy my Hatsan Invader 25 cal.💥💥💥
Need aluminium will b game change
Yes. Aluminum balls will be one of my next purchases.👍🏾✌🏾👊🏾
You can mod this gun to over 20 joules without buying a kit all you got to do is remove the valve block it's easy the video on how to do it is on RUclips you don't get but about 10 powerful shots but it'll shoot riot balls 500 fps and you can still shoot pepper balls after modding. You should mod it then redo this video
Have you tried it Mad Hatter? If so, are you happy with it? I was thinking about trying it.
I have the power kit already. Not sure which one I want to use it on, but I will mod soon. Thanks!👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾
@@xxvxvxx yeah I've done it to mine it works. I'm very happy with it and it'll save you $50 cause you don't have to buy the mod kit
Please where are This video.?